Yossi Melman is a senior commentator for the Israeli daily Haaretz. He specializes in intelligence, security, terrorism and strategic issues. An author of seven books on these topics, his most recent book, The Nuclear Sphinx of Tehran: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the State of Iran was published recently by Carroll & Graf.
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Yossi Melman is a senior commentator for the Israeli daily Haaretz. He specializes in intelligence, security, terrorism and strategic issues. An author of seven books on these topics, his most recent book, The Nuclear Sphinx of Tehran: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the State of Iran was published recently by Carroll & Graf.
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and tell me who is a a totalitarian regime, Israel, or China.
Please tell us, honestly - who is more criminal in your country - your prime minister Olmert, your president Katzav or those 3 supreme court judges (and beinish above all of them, of course)?
You have no rights criticizing China's human rights while your supreme court judges act as a criminal organization.
"Jews has only one country as the homeland", right?
so how can you explain the fact that 80% of the Jews CAN live in Israel but DO NOT want to and chose to live far away - abroad ???
How you explain that 65% of Israelis citizens in israel said, that if they could have the chance - they will go away and live in a normal country?
How you explain the fact that even you writing your blog here, in USA and not only in your country? (its not a blog, it’s a paid propaganda? aha, ok... sorry).
lets forget all the others who hates you "for nothing". who love what in Israel? everybody are against everybody, everywhere!
your supreme court - corrupted and 2 judge blamed on taking bribe offended criminal laws (Beinish and Arbel).
Your new "kabalat Shabt" entertainment nowadays is, the police investigating your prime minister every Friday, your minister Hirshenzon stole money from the holocaust victims and smuggled $300,000 cash in his suitcase in Poland to finance luxury meals in fancy hotels and restaurants. Your Defense minister Ehud Barak took bribe so many times and from so many people – even from your enemy in the Ashdod-Gas deal.
And now even his wife caught in a new bribe scandal, “selling her connections to her husband for $60,000 per year…”.
Youre biggest news papers owners was one in prison (Nimrodi) and one bribe the state attorney Edna Arbel and didn’t go to prison although he did to Nimrodi exactly what Nimrodi did to him.
Your legal system took bribes in Parinian case and couldn’t fight the main 2 head of this organized crime that was leading the main 2 murders in that case (Edna Arbel and Yaska Leibobich), mayors, Knesset members, police officers, the 12 heads of the tax authorities, Journalists, Lobbyists (Adler and Co.), etc. etc.
etc.
who is not a criminal there? Can you survive there without developing your own “holly crimes” ?
In fact, Mr. Melman (and as usual - your weeknes points are the facts behind the propoganda):
0.0001% from the Chinese citizens decided to go to USA.
65% from YOUR population decided to go to USA and another 15% to other countries.
So before criticizing 0.0001% that was not satisfy from China, please admit: you failed.
failed to develop and to maintain even a small country that is nothing but a city-size!
And all this - despite the huge support, billions and billions $ as foundations and the big money you've got from all the world's citizens for your biggest and only business: to sell nothing but your tears and miserable stories in order beg for some more alms and to suck more money from nations that have working citizens, not beggars, complainers, explicators, swindler, corrupted and literally saying the garbage that stinks’ together and export it to the world.
You guys are the biggest enemy of “your” nation. Not Palestinians, nor Iran or any others.
Jews hate the Jews homeland and vote against it in their choice where to live (and where NOT).
Your prime minister’s sons – doesn’t live in israel. Not only the current one. Even Omri Sharon's dream was to make the Greek-island deal and to leave this country for ever.
Heh.... look who is talking...
How your Shay Agnon Nobel used to say... "Who act against himself as he was the worst - we have nothing more to say against him"...
Yeahh.. about Oversea Chinese parasites who was run to USa for rights and better life from China and are marshing now in Sanfran For a same China who humilated them just 10 years ago and does now with their families.
Chinese producing products! Working! rise children’s and families, not killing others! developing REAL economy, not bubbles and pyramid (fake) economy! respecting real values and not preach others to sanctify what the preachers desecrate by their own-made!
Chinese (and American Citizens) are humans and not "Hysnale" (Hyena, Snake and leech).
Not manipulations, bubbles, monkey business, "luft gesheft", and Shoa-business...
USA and Chinese fails and recover themselves by THEMSELVES, and not making their living from blaming all the others for their own miserably and mistakes. Your tears is the only thing you really producing for living.
Israel mammal American Citizens money, and gives U.S NOTHING but trebles, expenses, internal and foreign conflict, corruption in politics ("the lobby..."), frauds-culture & business manners and split USA citizens into self hate and loathing!
Where is the holocaust compensation money disappeared ???
Why the victims never got that money and your go-getter stolen it from them and from the German citizens?
Where is all the $36 billion U.S Aid defense money going every year? on bribes and into your officers privet pockets (Ask Aharon Frenkel and his daughter-wedding guests in Monaco)!
Israel is your homeland? So Go home!!!
You have your country - take all your 8 million refugees from USA, go away and let USA recover from all the damages and the exploitation you brought.
It is not about Jew's. its about pitiable ex-eastern European refugees, that are not Jews, anyway.
"Neither Jews, nor Christians, nor Muslims, they are followers of no monotheist faith, they are merely members of a criminal party."
Look at your leaders, from Olmert & Ehud Barak till Beinish family and Edna Arbel. Organized crime, not a country!
Shame on you, Melman. You are a good guy, serving the evils…
Go back to write your bla-bla in Haaretz, and let USA citizens to write about USA, in USA, from USA and for USA - without your propoganda.
How fortunate I am to have lived in most regions of China, in most major cities (including Beijing), and to have spent time there again, recently! I could therefore find your piece most amusing and quite entertaining.
May I suggest you avoid, in future, travelling all over this dirty world?
While Olympians continue to break one world record after another (sometimes by a wide margin) in Beijing, you may want to consider living exclusively in Palestine, and limit yourself to less taxing activities...
before pumping the "enjoy more rights" propoganda, you better give the basic rights that humans deserve in Cuba, Iraq, Palestien and Guantanamo...(not to talk about the holocaust in Vietnam...).
maybe start with giving the basic rights to New Orleans and all other black and hispans citizens in USA (and the blacks and arabs in Israel: Ethiopians, Yamans, Marocans and "israeli"-arabs...
and if you can read Hebrew - you wil see that the "democracy" in Israel its a big fake...
Israel sending to prison honest citizens that trying to express their speech against the corruption in israel (85% of the public services are corrupted! Including Supreme Court president and her husband, ministers, prime minister and president!)
In Israel the court covered up a bribe case and released the criminal Aharon Frenkel to let him bribe more Europeans officers in order to sell Europe more weapons they do not need at all…
Before criticizing China – look what a dirt is in your most holly institutes and human rights…
Who really love Israel (and i do!) should stop the corruption-fashion inside israel, and the corruption way they buying politicians in the US (and FR and UK...)
--They working and producing your food and cloths while you are running your morning jogging!--
Nope. East Europeans, Fijians and Malaysians do my food and cloths while i am running my morning jogging.
Anaway my kids played with chinese toys until we banned them from our gift list.(you know that poicon case)
Aside that we should kiss european and japanese ar.ses for good cars wich we are driving to home after a hard work for chinese vages.. hmm. what was about "simply has different needs!" BS again? whats about all those people who are forced into Han-chineseess instead to enjoy more rights under "most modern comunist rule in the world"?
Yossalle, your readers that never been in China might get the funny impression of armatures who visiting new powerful country, culture and environment and coming back suffering from “culture shock”.
It reminds me “Allegory of the cave” by Plato in his work The Republic:
Imagine prisoners who have been chained since their childhood deep inside a cave: not only are their arms and legs immovable because of chains; their heads are chained in one direction as well so that their gaze is fixed on a wall.
Behind the prisoners is an enormous fire, and between the fire and the prisoners is a raised walkway, along which puppets of various animals, plants, and other things are moved. The puppets cast shadows on the wall, and the prisoners watch these shadows. Behind this cave there is a well-used road, and upon this road people are walking and talking and generally making noise.
The prisoners, then, believe that these noises are coming directly from the shadows they are watching pass by on the cave wall.
The prisoners engage in what appears to us to be a game: naming the shapes as they come by. This, however, is the only reality that they know, even though they are seeing merely shadows of objects.
They are thus conditioned to judge the quality of one another by their skill in quickly naming the shapes and dislike those who play poorly.
Suppose a prisoner's chains break, and he is able to get up and walk about (a process which takes some time, as he has never done it before).
Eventually he will be compelled to explore; he walks up and out of the cave, whereby he is instantly blinded by the sun. He turns then to the shadows on the floor, in the lakes, slowly working his way out of his deluded mind, and he is eventually able to glimpse the sun.
In time, he would learn to see it as the object that provides the seasons and the courses of the year, presides over all things in the visible region, and is in some way the cause of all these things that he has seen…
***
Despite all your description and WRONG impression about China - Chinese has much better quality of living in China than living in Tel Aviv and/or New York City, richer culture, much more impressive history (and… future!) and much better morals and values and prosperity .
(and above all - in USA and israel, you have to run yourself to death in order to clean the pollution & poisons you have inside your body from the fat and artificial food. In China you simply don't need such a silly activity to be healthy, happy and to look normal size and not as an Elephant...)
It is funny make jokes on Eskimos and to say “they are so primitive – they do not use even air-conditions at home”… they simply has different needs! They working and producing your food and cloths while you are running your morning jogging!
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Dear Yossi Melman,
Please read this:
http://www.nfc.co.il/Archive/003-D-31534-00.html?tag=17-53-43
and tell me who is a a totalitarian regime, Israel, or China.
Please tell us, honestly - who is more criminal in your country - your prime minister Olmert, your president Katzav or those 3 supreme court judges (and beinish above all of them, of course)?
You have no rights criticizing China's human rights while your supreme court judges act as a criminal organization.
Look at the mirror before you criticizing others.
August 21, 2008 11:16 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 21, 2008 11:16
"Jews has only one country as the homeland", right?
so how can you explain the fact that 80% of the Jews CAN live in Israel but DO NOT want to and chose to live far away - abroad ???
How you explain that 65% of Israelis citizens in israel said, that if they could have the chance - they will go away and live in a normal country?
How you explain the fact that even you writing your blog here, in USA and not only in your country? (its not a blog, it’s a paid propaganda? aha, ok... sorry).
lets forget all the others who hates you "for nothing". who love what in Israel? everybody are against everybody, everywhere!
your supreme court - corrupted and 2 judge blamed on taking bribe offended criminal laws (Beinish and Arbel).
Your new "kabalat Shabt" entertainment nowadays is, the police investigating your prime minister every Friday, your minister Hirshenzon stole money from the holocaust victims and smuggled $300,000 cash in his suitcase in Poland to finance luxury meals in fancy hotels and restaurants. Your Defense minister Ehud Barak took bribe so many times and from so many people – even from your enemy in the Ashdod-Gas deal.
And now even his wife caught in a new bribe scandal, “selling her connections to her husband for $60,000 per year…”.
Youre biggest news papers owners was one in prison (Nimrodi) and one bribe the state attorney Edna Arbel and didn’t go to prison although he did to Nimrodi exactly what Nimrodi did to him.
Your legal system took bribes in Parinian case and couldn’t fight the main 2 head of this organized crime that was leading the main 2 murders in that case (Edna Arbel and Yaska Leibobich), mayors, Knesset members, police officers, the 12 heads of the tax authorities, Journalists, Lobbyists (Adler and Co.), etc. etc.
etc.
who is not a criminal there? Can you survive there without developing your own “holly crimes” ?
In fact, Mr. Melman (and as usual - your weeknes points are the facts behind the propoganda):
0.0001% from the Chinese citizens decided to go to USA.
65% from YOUR population decided to go to USA and another 15% to other countries.
So before criticizing 0.0001% that was not satisfy from China, please admit: you failed.
failed to develop and to maintain even a small country that is nothing but a city-size!
And all this - despite the huge support, billions and billions $ as foundations and the big money you've got from all the world's citizens for your biggest and only business: to sell nothing but your tears and miserable stories in order beg for some more alms and to suck more money from nations that have working citizens, not beggars, complainers, explicators, swindler, corrupted and literally saying the garbage that stinks’ together and export it to the world.
You guys are the biggest enemy of “your” nation. Not Palestinians, nor Iran or any others.
Jews hate the Jews homeland and vote against it in their choice where to live (and where NOT).
Your prime minister’s sons – doesn’t live in israel. Not only the current one. Even Omri Sharon's dream was to make the Greek-island deal and to leave this country for ever.
Heh.... look who is talking...
How your Shay Agnon Nobel used to say... "Who act against himself as he was the worst - we have nothing more to say against him"...
August 20, 2008 1:29 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 20, 2008 13:29
You talking about Parasites ?!?:
Yeahh.. about Oversea Chinese parasites who was run to USa for rights and better life from China and are marshing now in Sanfran For a same China who humilated them just 10 years ago and does now with their families.
August 20, 2008 11:44 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 20, 2008 11:44
Chinese producing products! Working! rise children’s and families, not killing others! developing REAL economy, not bubbles and pyramid (fake) economy! respecting real values and not preach others to sanctify what the preachers desecrate by their own-made!
Chinese (and American Citizens) are humans and not "Hysnale" (Hyena, Snake and leech).
Not manipulations, bubbles, monkey business, "luft gesheft", and Shoa-business...
USA and Chinese fails and recover themselves by THEMSELVES, and not making their living from blaming all the others for their own miserably and mistakes. Your tears is the only thing you really producing for living.
Israel mammal American Citizens money, and gives U.S NOTHING but trebles, expenses, internal and foreign conflict, corruption in politics ("the lobby..."), frauds-culture & business manners and split USA citizens into self hate and loathing!
Where is the holocaust compensation money disappeared ???
Why the victims never got that money and your go-getter stolen it from them and from the German citizens?
Where is all the $36 billion U.S Aid defense money going every year? on bribes and into your officers privet pockets (Ask Aharon Frenkel and his daughter-wedding guests in Monaco)!
Israel is your homeland? So Go home!!!
You have your country - take all your 8 million refugees from USA, go away and let USA recover from all the damages and the exploitation you brought.
It is not about Jew's. its about pitiable ex-eastern European refugees, that are not Jews, anyway.
"Neither Jews, nor Christians, nor Muslims, they are followers of no monotheist faith, they are merely members of a criminal party."
Look at your leaders, from Olmert & Ehud Barak till Beinish family and Edna Arbel. Organized crime, not a country!
Shame on you, Melman. You are a good guy, serving the evils…
Go back to write your bla-bla in Haaretz, and let USA citizens to write about USA, in USA, from USA and for USA - without your propoganda.
USA do not need advices from failures...
August 20, 2008 12:54 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 20, 2008 00:54
Chen
i have n0thing against to send chinese oversea parasites bak home.
August 19, 2008 8:57 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 19, 2008 08:57
What is your point?
Go back to Israel you ingrate! Now every Chinese regrets what we did for your people during the Holocaust!
August 19, 2008 3:03 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 19, 2008 03:03
why to "avoid, in future, travelling all over this dirty world"?
Stupidity it's an opportunity.
August 18, 2008 11:42 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 18, 2008 23:42
How fortunate I am to have lived in most regions of China, in most major cities (including Beijing), and to have spent time there again, recently! I could therefore find your piece most amusing and quite entertaining.
May I suggest you avoid, in future, travelling all over this dirty world?
While Olympians continue to break one world record after another (sometimes by a wide margin) in Beijing, you may want to consider living exclusively in Palestine, and limit yourself to less taxing activities...
How about solitaire card games?
August 18, 2008 8:56 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 18, 2008 20:56
before pumping the "enjoy more rights" propoganda, you better give the basic rights that humans deserve in Cuba, Iraq, Palestien and Guantanamo...(not to talk about the holocaust in Vietnam...).
maybe start with giving the basic rights to New Orleans and all other black and hispans citizens in USA (and the blacks and arabs in Israel: Ethiopians, Yamans, Marocans and "israeli"-arabs...
and if you can read Hebrew - you wil see that the "democracy" in Israel its a big fake...
http://www.nfc.co.il/Archive/003-D-31415-00.html?tag=23-21-22
Israel sending to prison honest citizens that trying to express their speech against the corruption in israel (85% of the public services are corrupted! Including Supreme Court president and her husband, ministers, prime minister and president!)
In Israel the court covered up a bribe case and released the criminal Aharon Frenkel to let him bribe more Europeans officers in order to sell Europe more weapons they do not need at all…
Before criticizing China – look what a dirt is in your most holly institutes and human rights…
Who really love Israel (and i do!) should stop the corruption-fashion inside israel, and the corruption way they buying politicians in the US (and FR and UK...)
August 18, 2008 4:28 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 18, 2008 16:28
--They working and producing your food and cloths while you are running your morning jogging!--
Nope. East Europeans, Fijians and Malaysians do my food and cloths while i am running my morning jogging.
Anaway my kids played with chinese toys until we banned them from our gift list.(you know that poicon case)
Aside that we should kiss european and japanese ar.ses for good cars wich we are driving to home after a hard work for chinese vages.. hmm. what was about "simply has different needs!" BS again? whats about all those people who are forced into Han-chineseess instead to enjoy more rights under "most modern comunist rule in the world"?
August 18, 2008 3:48 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 18, 2008 15:48
Yossalle, your readers that never been in China might get the funny impression of armatures who visiting new powerful country, culture and environment and coming back suffering from “culture shock”.
It reminds me “Allegory of the cave” by Plato in his work The Republic:
Imagine prisoners who have been chained since their childhood deep inside a cave: not only are their arms and legs immovable because of chains; their heads are chained in one direction as well so that their gaze is fixed on a wall.
Behind the prisoners is an enormous fire, and between the fire and the prisoners is a raised walkway, along which puppets of various animals, plants, and other things are moved. The puppets cast shadows on the wall, and the prisoners watch these shadows. Behind this cave there is a well-used road, and upon this road people are walking and talking and generally making noise.
The prisoners, then, believe that these noises are coming directly from the shadows they are watching pass by on the cave wall.
The prisoners engage in what appears to us to be a game: naming the shapes as they come by. This, however, is the only reality that they know, even though they are seeing merely shadows of objects.
They are thus conditioned to judge the quality of one another by their skill in quickly naming the shapes and dislike those who play poorly.
Suppose a prisoner's chains break, and he is able to get up and walk about (a process which takes some time, as he has never done it before).
Eventually he will be compelled to explore; he walks up and out of the cave, whereby he is instantly blinded by the sun. He turns then to the shadows on the floor, in the lakes, slowly working his way out of his deluded mind, and he is eventually able to glimpse the sun.
In time, he would learn to see it as the object that provides the seasons and the courses of the year, presides over all things in the visible region, and is in some way the cause of all these things that he has seen…
***
Despite all your description and WRONG impression about China - Chinese has much better quality of living in China than living in Tel Aviv and/or New York City, richer culture, much more impressive history (and… future!) and much better morals and values and prosperity .
(and above all - in USA and israel, you have to run yourself to death in order to clean the pollution & poisons you have inside your body from the fat and artificial food. In China you simply don't need such a silly activity to be healthy, happy and to look normal size and not as an Elephant...)
It is funny make jokes on Eskimos and to say “they are so primitive – they do not use even air-conditions at home”… they simply has different needs! They working and producing your food and cloths while you are running your morning jogging!
August 18, 2008 1:29 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on August 18, 2008 13:29