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Everyone knows that Isreal is ILLIGAL. The whole "state" is illegal. I HATE ALL ISREALI JEWS. I am as what Americans call, Anti Samatic. They should just use the therm Anti jew. It is much easier to understand.
Hamas will win because it is a resistance movement. All Resistance wins over its oppresors.
Anti jew, Anti zionest, Anti Isreali
HAMAS ALL THE WAY!!! HAMAS WILL RULE!!!

Mr. Melman:

I applaud your courage for exposing the policies of your government.

Unfortunately, it is not just the West Bank that was stolen, 90% of Israel is one big stolen country.

in 1948, on Israel's very first day of independence, about 70% of its citizens were foreign born. They all came from other continents and countries and simply took over what was not theirs. It is no coincidence that pretty much no Israeli-Jew owns lands in Israel. 90% of Israeli lands are owned by the state (stolen/confiscated/etc). Only Israeli-Arabs owns whatever they were left with.

I understand people were fleeing death camps and massacres, but that doesn't justify what they did. Many Israeli died in 1948 facing natives who refused to accept Israel's colonial project but if you think about it they really didn't have to die.

There could have been a different Israel, perhaps in some other place where there was no contention. The Zionists must take responsibility for what they did.

It is never late to undo the wrongdoings.

2000 years: and you think you still have the right to return. What about the right of return of 4million Palestinians after 1967.
Believe me they will demand the same even if it takes them another 2000 years.
God said to David go to the land of CAANAAN and kill ...and donot take mercy even on the children..LEVITICUS.
Is this a replay of the same Old Testament savagery.

I think it's because we feel guilty. American's especially. The subtleties of history are lost on most Americans. We tend to characterize by the biggest event's and draw black and white conclusions. Right now, the biggest event in Jewish history is the holocaust, as a result, we're very sympathetic towards Zionism.

One question to zionist jews,how would you feel if the aboriginals of the many countries jews live in, treated them as they treat palestinians.What if they started shipping you out to make room for them.Every jewish leader from here to hells acre would scream bloody ant semetic racism.So why is that same principle not aplied to zionist jews.

So now, Saturday, Israel says it will withdraw troops from Gaza. I mean this is so stupid. Are we to pretend to believe this? Waste of ink and air time to say or write this fiction? To try to fool the
increasingly furious world opinion?
Vile joke.

Peter Vertog,

Obviously you are so biased you are willing to overlook anything that the Israel-American axis has done to excuse the savagery that we witness today.

Most wars in the Middle East were created expressedly to protect Israel's "regional supremacy". As in the 1980s when the United States funded both Saddam's Iraq and Iran so that they can kill each other for eight years. A million people died in that conflict.

As for the 500,000 Iraqis that have been brutally killed in the last 3 years, it is because the United States, egged on by Israel, went into Iraq and dismantled its police, its army, its infrastructure and its bureaucracy and asked it to become democratic. WHERE IN THE WORLD WOULD THAT WORK......

It is not because Iraqis are savages that they are dying now. It is because we sowed chaos, insuring the country would descend into anarchy. Meanwhile, Israel, who herself was the cause of the Lebanese civil war, killed a thousand Lebanese citizens in a 2 week period this summer, as well as killed 800 Palestinians since June and wounded more than 3000 people in Gaza alone.

The Middle East looks the way it does today because it is rejecting a skin graft that was imposed on it and that will never be accepted. Jews can live in the Middle East as they have always, in peace. Establishing a Jewish state at the expense of Palestinians and all Arabs is simply not acceptable.

Israel is not reponsible for the wars in the Middle-East? Jewish neo-cons pushed for the war in Iraq. Read the news. Yesterday, Israeli Prime Minister Olmert said that the war in Iraq was good for Israel.

Oscar Mayer,
The earliest record of Canaan was during the Egyptian empire, when Canaan was a vassal of the Egyptian powers. There are still official records of communication between the Canaanite Kings and the Egyptian Pharoah. The Canaanites and Philistines were there long before the Jewish usurpers. The Jews have no legal claim to the land of Palestine, considering that most Ashkenazi Jews have no Semitic blood at all.

Gotta laugh! Shiites and Sunnis have mangaged to kill 500,000 so far, some of them tortured to death. At least that many were killed by the Lebanese themselves during 1975-90. King Hussein of Jordan killed thousands of Palestinians in 1972. Saddam Hussein killed thousands of Kuwaitis, and many others have not been accounted for. The French killed over 1,000,000 Algerians during the Algerian rebellion. Palestians have been killing one another, whether for political reason or, as elsewhere in the Arab world, for revenge. Arab women are killed all the time for so-called family honor (having a boyfriend from the wrong family or wrong Islamic sect or, heaven forfend, dating a Christian. Coptic Christians suffer periodic progroms in Egypt.

At the rate of noncombatant Arabs killed by Israelis since 1948, many of them indeed by accident,it will take tens of thousands of years for the Israelis to catch up to the Arabs' rate of murder of Arabs. And so far--read the news of Nov. 24 from Bagdhad--I haven't heard of Israelis burning Arabs alive, let alone torturing them to death with electric drills.
Yep, it sure looks like the Israelis are out to take over the entire Middle East. The Palestinian charges of Israeli genocidal aims are definitely no exaggeration.

The U.S Senate and Congress has been supporting Israeli aggression and abuse for over half a century. This is not defending a nations right to exist. Our political leaders are choosing to put the interests of Isreal ahead of the interests of the American citizens. Until this changes we can expect increasing hatred and violence toward us.

to Oscar Myer,
the only difference all the powers that ruled palestine were foreign occupation and did not threaten the native palestinian through mass immegration to palestine as it is in the jewish case.

To quote from the above--
"With many (Israeli) Jews wishing to migrate to the United States..."

and..."the widening rift between European and Oriental Jews..."

The earliest official status for this territory dates to Roman times. The Roman senate awarded Herod this land (The kingdom of Judea). It was much later in the 7th century that the moslems siezed it.

Other powers have occupied this land subsequently. Each has relinquished when another power forced it to abdicate. Why set a higher standard for Israel to willingly abdicate? Israel's claims are no less legitimate that Arab claims or for that matter British, or Turkish or Egyptian claims.

Israel may already have atomic bomb and the means to deliver it, but the Palestinians have a more powerful bomb; the population bomb. According to my estimate, by the year 2050, Jewish population will be in minority, and the Palestinians will have a clear advantage both inside Israel and in the occupied territories. With many Jews wishing to migrate to the United States than living in Israel and the rift widening between the European [Ashkenazi] Jews and the Oriental [Sephardic] Jews, Israel is facing a grim future. I certainly wouldn't want to go back and live there. My advice: leave the occupied territories while you are still marginally ahead.

As always, as an impartial observer who is neither Arabic nor Jewish, I am struck by the diversity of voices and the vehemence of the different sides in this debate.

Neither UN resolution 242 nor the Geneva Accords of 2003 recognizes Israel's right to land on the West Bank. Daisy, denying the history, culture, and existence of a Palestinian people is as ridiculous as the denial of Israel's right to exist.

Israel's so-called withdrawal from Gaza in the summer of 2005 left over 50,000 Israeli troops, separation walls, as well as security checkpoints. Imprisoned from the outside world, poverty and malnutrition in Gaza among Palestinians is at an all-time high.

Arafat's rejection of Clinton's 2000 Camp David peace overtures is as much Clinton and Israel's fault as it is Palestine's. Although Barak's land-swap proposal offered land toward the formation of a Palestinian state, he refused to cede Israel's control over airspace and roads, not to mention Temple Mount and other Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem, effectively creating a series of strangled Palestinian areas.

Palestinian suicide bombers and other illegal attacks on Israel are doing nobody any favors either, only increasing the strength of militant positions on both sides that detract from further negotiation.

Someone obviously needs to take the high road, and the first is always the hardest.

Is it is religious issue? Is it a historical issue? Is it a human rights issue? Is it a cultural issue or one involving nationalism? Undoubtedly this subject touches on all of these areas.

However, the determinative question is who had legal title to the private land at the time of its seizure. Put everything else aside and 'let the chips fall where they may.' Implement the rule of law.

"...IS PRACTICALLY THIEVERY?" PRACTICALLY? Let us now have an example of real thievery from the senior commentator at Haaretz.

I'd lke to thank all of you who gave level headed commentary that was as fair as you could make it. Your comments were very interesting.

The rest of you were idiots!

PS PS
Re the above, read: Why do you think the New York Times, of all entities, did the 40% land steal story...adss:
ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!
And do take heart re justice, safety and America's place in the world.

Take heart. Israel is about to be pushed, threatening and screaming, back behind the l948 line or some semblance of it. WHY DO YOU THINK THE NEW YORK TIMES, of all entities, did the 40% steal of land story?
How do you think the Bush administration, on it's knees (it's dual loyalist asst. secs following) is seeking help from ME leaders? Because we're desparate, and we're in peril, and the world, our friiends and enemies, have told us Israel's savagagery of Palestine is the key. Israel's gonna have to behave, finally, or the US "golden parachute and billlions" described above willl cease. And the free armaments. No less than the Jewish owned and operated NEW YORK TIMES,
has begun the scramble. Good news, finally.

Mr.Melman,Israeli human rights groups, and the Israeli peace loving people have to be commended here.
There are many Israelis who advocate and fight for the rights of the Palestinian people.
I bet Mr. Yossi melman and those who put this report together are taking a lot of abuse or even threats from the radical elements in Israel.
My hat is off for Mr.Melman having the guts and the integrety to floor this topic.

Israel gloat for now. It may take time, but eventually the American people will know of your evil doings, and then there were will another Holocast, and you whinng evil doers will cry out to the world you were victumized again. Will not happen the next time. In my family in my neighborhood and in my community I challgege people to see Iseael for what it is. We are getting there albiet it will take time to rid this cancer from the Middle East.

Ancient Israel failed, first by splitting itself into two warring Kingdoms, and second by a succession of occupations and lost wars, by Persia, by Babylon (twice), and finally, by Rome. Israel ceased to exist more than 2000 years ago, most Jews left or were expelled, and the ancestors of its original occupants returned, to become the inhabitants of that land for centuries.

To argue now that the Palestinians do not rightfully own the land which Israel and the UN stole is to argue that descendants of American colonists do not own America, that it was originally Native American land and should be restored to descendants of the First Peoples from which it was stolen, by brute force.

One cannot turn back time or history with a simple UN declaration, based upon suspect motives and the desire for Europe to expel its Jews once Germany was defeated.

The re-creation of Israel is no more just than if the UN had decided to recreate the Cherokee Nation in Virginia, Tennessee, the Carolinas and Georgia, and then funded and armed the descendants of the original Cherokees and helped them carve out huge swaths of occupied territory at the expense of Americans.

The partition of Palestine was a crime against humanity for which the US and Britain are particularly culpable. No amount of Zionist ambition can justify it, and no amount of murder, terrorism, assassination, and land confiscation can force the surrender and wholesale diaspora of the Palestinian Arabs to other Arab states.

The re-creation of Israel will stand, in history, as the most monumental disaster of all the West's colonial misadventures in the Middle East.

The original 1947 borders should be restored and Israel should be COMPELLED to comply, by force if necessary. Not until Israel gives up its false belief that it can repossess all that it first took (by force) in the land of Canaan will there ever be peace in the Middle East.

Philistine | November 22, 2006 08:55 PM

Happy Thanksgiving. :)

You are correct: The alphabet we use originated by the Phoenicians.

On the Armenians: In ancient times, Armenia was actually in the southern part of Asia Minor. Invasions caused the Armenians to move northe.

On Asia Minor and the Greeks: Hellenism originated in Asia Minor: Ionia as it was called. That is why to this day the Arabs (and turks, I believe) call the Greeks 'Yunan', (the Ionians). It was forced eviction by the Turks (between 1918 and 1923) that changed the ethnic make-up of the region.

Wow. I'm so glad that everyone is posting their obviously biased, non-objectve, emotionally erratic rhetoric here. It really helps to solve the problems facing Israel and the Palestinians.

It's Jewish lies.
The Palestinians don't have claim!
It's a zionist conspiracy!
The Arabs have it coming.

You all are doing a great job of bridging the cultural barriers. Name calling invariably leads to agreements and compromise.

Good for you all *Thumbs up*

The west bank was judia and Summeria and
therefore by the old testament belong to the jewish people. If anyone is stealing it
is the so called "Palestinians"

I am an american muslim. I love democracy and was always the best ambassador for democracy and human rights when I visited arabic countries.
Unfortunatley I dont believe in that anymore, the US is becoming a democracy that mimics alleged israeli democracy.
I visited Hebron - a palestinian city in the west bank - six years ago, as I was walking in old town Hebron, a jewish
settler kid approached me and spit at me, I wanted to hold the kid by the hand, take him to his parents and tell them about his manners, if you think I could do this, think again, because the second I lay a hand on him I would have been shot to death by israeli terror forces (IDF) guarding the settlers.
Those settlers chase palestinains in the streets, throw garbage at them, can move into neighbor's home and kick them out becasuse 'God gave them the right to'.
Now, six years later, palestinains in old town hebron moved out, this extreme
injustice drives the palestinaisn to resist occupation by resorting to terrorism.
can you imagine your self a palestinain living in old town hebron.
My point is, If it wasn't for the extreme fanatic jews supporting israel, and the extreme fanatic evangalical christians who support settlers none of this extreme justice would happen.
every body should start looking into their own fanatic closet, I expect
the 'civilized world' to lead the way.

Peace is the fruit of justice.

Dram,

Don't try to make this about religion and failed states. Complicating the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and injecting it with new parameters and variables will not obscure the essence and inherent injustice of the catastrophe that befell the Palestinians, namely, the invasion of historic Palestine with a people unwilling to cohabit Palestine with the indigenous Arab population.
If Palestinians were Buddhists, Hindus or athiests instead of Muslim and Christian, they would have still resisted being thrown out of their country. No matter how traumatic the recent history of the Jewish people, they cannot excuse Israel's actions.

Pretty virulent anti-Israel commentary, though it is now "politically correct" as it avoids being anti-Jewish.

Arafat walked away from the talks with Barak and to this day Clinton blames Arafat, not Barak. Instead of offering to negotiate more, bringing the matter to his people, Arafat launched the intifada and along with Hamas bears the responsibility for the current chaos. The 2nd intifadah destroyed the Israeli peace camp and most Israelis seem to feel that it is difficult to negoitate with somebody who feels that you should be expelled from your own country.

If the Palestinians either get new leadership or Hamas seriously changes their position, perhaps a deal could be made, but nothing will happen in 6 months so the call for an immediate resolution of the situation is a pipe dream.

One poster above talks about Israeli demolition of the homes of Palestinians by bulldozer, but this I believe is reserved for the family of suicide bombers, etc. By the way, when the town of Hama rebelled against Syria in 1982, the old part of the city was largely destroyed by shelling and at least 20,00 were killed (possibly as high as 40,000).

As another poster points out, why all the hubub over Israel? Well it is a Jewish country in a sea of Islam. That's why the Arab countries hate Israel. There is one God but Allah and so Israel is a land of infidels. (Islam has not gone through the historical periods (Reformation, Enlightenment) that the West has and the idea of separation of church and state has never taken root. It has little to do with some acres of crappy land occupied by some religious zealots.

The fact that Israel is a both a prosperous and Western nation probably doesn't help things as well. Yet it being a democracy is one reason why the United States supports Israel. Compare them to the Arab governments or Iran, which pretty much stink and have largely failed their people.

To AM,
A couple of points:
>By the way, the 'P' sound does not exist >in the Arabic language. To this day, they >call themselves 'Falastine' (as >in 'Philistines' -- note the 'Ph' came >fromt he Greek via Latin which did not >have the 'F' sound).

You are right that the P sound does not exist in Arabic. However, the Alphabet used in much of the world was invented by the Phoenician civilization, which also included the Canaanites. The Greeks got their alphabet from the Phoenicians as did the Hebrews and Arabs. That's why the alphabet sounds the same in all these languages: "alpha" "beta" "theta", "aleph", "be", "the".

>All that aside, after an absence of 2000 >(or so) years, there is no automatic right >of ownership. If there was, the obviously >Kurdistan should be Armenian, Asia Minor >Greek, etc.

Asia Minor was Greek for only a short time during Greek expansionism. Anatolia has been occupied even longer by ethnic groups such as the Hittites. And the Kurds are an ancient people who were mentioned by even the ancient Sumerians. There are Kurds living in present day Armenia, but Kurdistan was never part of Armenia.

You can only demand the treatment you are giving others. Arab/Muslim community is so vocal about Israel policies wrt Palestinians, while at the same time is deadly quiet about Kurdish genocide within its community. Just as an example in Iraq, Kurdish lands and homes have been taken by force and given to Arab settlers in Kirkuk, Kurds have been expelled from Kirkuk, Mosul and Khanaqin, thousands of Kurdish villages have been destroyed, 182000 innocent Kurdish villagers have been exterminated, and many villages have been attacked by chemical bombs to mention some examples. Iraqi state officially adopted the policy of final solution in their last military operation code named "Anfal". No one in the modern world and more specifically in the Arab/Muslim world objected to these genocidal atrocities. US and Britain finally created the no fly zone. Similar actions are happening/happened in Iran and Syria and Turkey.

Even now, Arabs/Muslims are not sympathetic. They are against returning Kurdish lands and homes to their rightful owners!!! If Arabs/Muslims care about legal rights or human rights, why are they quiet about Kurdish genocide? Stop the double standard and hypocrisy, put your actions where your mouth is and the world will respect your plight.

Daisy | November 22, 2006 12:00 PM

Where can one begin in responding? Even according to the Old testament, the Hebrews were invaders. Read in modern terminology, they engaged in genocide and ethnic cleansing. To declare moral ownership based on that is, at least to me, repugnant.

By the way, the 'P' sound does not exist in the Arabic language. To this day, they call themselves 'Falastine' (as in 'Philistines' -- note the 'Ph' came fromt he Greek via Latin which did not have the 'F' sound).

All that aside, after an absence of 2000 (or so) years, there is no automatic right of ownership. If there was, the obviously Kurdistan should be Armenian, Asia Minor Greek, etc.

As for the comments about 'we' don't want 'you' here (I assume the US?): that is childish and petty, not to mention irrelevant.

I neither know nor care where you are or what 'right' you have to be there, but perhaps you should grow up.

To me it is unacceptable to evict a people from their homes. It is also wrong, unconditionally. Apparently to you it is not. But remember that the occupier is imposing terror, and the occupied is a resistance fighter.

Sadly, to evict an occupier you must make him afraid for his life and children's lives. That is a sad fact of life. If that is unacceptable, then end the occupation. By the way, thsoe who facilitate the occupation are also fair game, not innocent or impartial bystanders.

Daisy you talk as if native americans have access to their tribal lands.Get real will ya,nobodys going any were,neither are palestinians.As for my sons treaty rights,they are disapearing by the day.But what do you want when a document is sighned with an X.Please dont pretend it is all roses for the first nations ,it has and will be a struggle for many years.As for your tecnology you boast about.So what are you saying that native Americans and Arabs are stupid because we have not invented a cell phone.As a native american do you agree with abramoff that you are a trogolite and neanderthal.Well you who put down your own race is telling me you are not what you say.

PJ | November 22, 2006 05:55 PM

"Why are opinions so inflamed about the legality of the nation of Israel?" You proceed to mention examples of countries that did not exist (were not independent) 300 years ago.

The difference between your examples and Israel is that the population of those countries was there, and repelled an occupier. The majority (by far) of the Jewish population of Israel was imported after the founding of Israel, and displaced the existing, local population (whether Muslim or Christian -- it is important to remember that Christians have been instrumental in the formation of the PLO).

It is true that we cannot turn the clock back, but just as European and African Jews are entitled to a state, so are the natives of Palestine (from the Mediterranean to the Jordan River). And they are entitled, morally and legally, to compensation for the land that was given away by foreigners (that includes the US) to uninvited emigrants.

I hope this clarifies the difference, and explains the attitude of many.

Just because Peace Now says it doesn't make it accutate. The question of land titles isn't as simple as these agenda-driven folks imagine. For example, what PN is calling "private property" isn't what we would normally think of as private property. For the curious see http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=5&x_article=1234.

Mike G,
"Arab" is not the name of an ethnic groups, as is erroneously known, but the name of a linguistic group. There are Arab speaking people who are ethnically Semites from different parts of the Middle-East, and Arabs who are ethnically African. Recent National Geograpic genetic studies have found that the present day "Arab" population of Lebanon, are genetically identical to Phoenicians/Canaanites from DNA taken from ancient graves. Genetic studies have shown that the current "Arab" population of Egypt are genetically descended from the ancient Egyptians. It is Western hypocrisy and intellectual laziness that keeps insisting that a bunch of "Arab" tribal people from Arabia dislodged all the ancient people of the Middle East, from Babylon to Egypt to Morocco to Sudan. The people in these lands just happened to adopt the semitic Arabic language of the highly successful Arab tribes. I'd love to see a genetic study of the Palestinian population to see if they are genetically related to the Canaanites. Of course, don't expect that to happen any time soon.

And, BTW, those modern Israelis are the descendants of Central Asian Khazars and Western Europeans, and have absolutely no semitic blood at all.

Hey, Philistine, if the Israelis are "clearly illegal invaders" they so are all the Arabs outside of Arabia.
There's 2 peoples with claims on this so-called holy land and the sooner they start acting in a holy way, the safer we'll all feel. Don't Semites get tired of burying their children?

if all it would take to ignite the peace process would be for Hamas to change it's tune, why weren't there serious negotiations between 2001 and Hamas's takeover of the gov't. I'm not at all convinced Israelis are willing to pay the price of peace.

It is amazing to me that this report is so important now, although, Palestinians have been accusing Israel of land theft for the last 60 years. Of course Israel is stealing Palestinian lands in the occupied territories and of course Israel expelled Palestinians by force in 1948 to establish a state with a Jewish majority.

It is also well known that while the American Indians mostly died by diesease and were replaced by the Europeans, the Zionists weren't so lucky. Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza and Israel outnumber the number of Jews in these locations. For the first time now in sixty years, Palestinians outnumber Jews in historic Palestine in spite of all the Jewish immigration and Palestinian emigration. The only possible peaceful resolution is a one state solution because as the author said no one is going to move 300,000 settlers from the West Bank. Jews and Arabs will have to live in one country. Put simply, Jews can live in historic Palestine, but they will have to forgo their majority.

Daisy,
Your contention that the Jews were the original inhabitants of Palestine/Canaan is rendered false by your own holy Bible. The Jews were clearly illegal invaders to the land occupied by the Canaanites and Philistines. BTW, the word Palestine comes from the Philistines, the original people of the Holy Land. The Israelites committed genocide, mass murders and ethnic cleansing to wrest the land from their previous owners, just as they are doing now. Did you know that Jerusalem was the Canaanite city of Yerushalayim, named after their God Shalem? Did you know that recent excavations have unearthed the Canaanite water system below present day Jerusalem. Jews pretend that there was nobody living on that land before David invaded and captured Jerusalem, just as they pretended in 1948 that Israel was a "land without people for a people without land".

Jewish claims to the land held no more validity in 1000 BC than it does today.
And, BTW, Israel did not invent computers or cell-phones.

Why are opinions so inflamed about the legality of the nation of Israel?

100 years ago, Pakistan, Serbia, and Poland didn't exist. 200 years ago, none of the Arab countries existed. Turkey and Greece didn't exist as separate countries. Plenty of illegal property transfers ocurred when these nations came into existence, not to mention horrendous human suffering.

In the end, though, land is just real estate. Most economies, except primitive agrarian ones, don't really require much.

People got over the tragedies of the past (for the most part) in the aforementioned countries. Obviously, there is still some local resentment, but none of this passionate, and largely unreasonable, hatred on a global scale that is stirred up by the existence of Israel.

It's time for people to move beyond the question of the legitimacy of Israel's existence, and learn to live in peace.

Crikey! Who needed a report.

.Avi-why is any one who opposes zionism an anti semite.Why is that term thrown into the mix every time zionist policy is reviewed.It is why the term was revolutionized

Kalil Abdul Jabbal | November 22, 2006 10:03 AM

What nonsense. Anyone with a glimmer of intelligence knows the handle you picked has no relation to your name or ethnicity.

You represent the worse of the Israeli land grab.

Daisy - based on your logic, the USA should relinquish all fifty states back to the Native Americans. It may be their ancestral land in the bible, but over time the Jews were well spread out over the world.

I'm not going to get into whether the land belongs to the Palestinians or the Israelis, but, I will say that if they do not find a way to settle their differences, we will be singing this very tune for the next century.

The only way Israel and Palestine can ever come together and shake hands again are if the religious extremists on both sides are sidelined. Yes, that means Hamas and the Ultra-conservative Jews. Both claim that they fight to protect their own people, but, we all know that destroying your neighbour is not the way to help yourself.

Izzy,Should the land be returned?Well with not one aboriginal in congress that wont happen.You can begin by helping the cause of the many aboriginal people living on reserves in the US and Canada by promoting the facts through history books.We are lucky in todays world that we are not being treated the way palestinians are being treated.But like palestinians who fight to keep there land today are called terrorists,the natives in their day were called savages.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Justice...

The Jews in Israel are the Indians come home!

A question that zionists need to be asked.What if jews in Britian,france,Canada,Usa,were treated the way jews treat palestinians in israel.What would be the reaction of the Jewish leaders.I would assume total disgust would be the reaction.Than why do zionists want to be treated equal in all parts of the free world,but have no problem supporting a jewish majority,and its treatment of palestinians.

I think that we as Americans should return the USA back to its original owners namely the American Indians when this great injustice will be corrected then we can ask the Israelis to do likewise

Is this really the 'free speech' the washington post compan wants on its servers? Hysterical anti-semtisim has plenty of forums from the UN to the Guardian - let's try and save a abstion of American journalism from tripe.

If everyone is upset that 40% of the land is 'stolen,' does this mean that Israel can keep the other 60%?

A