Johannesburg, South Africa- The Iraq Study Group's damning report points to the waning influence of U.S. power in the Middle East, and around the globe.
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February 10, 2008 5:27 AM | Report Offensive Comments
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January 16, 2007 1:21 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on January 16, 2007 13:21
The Iraqi police taking a stand against sectarian violence??? They are the number one sectarian killers in Iraq. Totally clueless...
December 16, 2006 11:05 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 16, 2006 23:05
The Iraq Study Group made an important political point -- the U.S. now reaps the bitter fruit of a unilateral foreign policy.
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Really? I'd say that History has still not judged that.
We don't know what is to come, and you, yourself, may yet be judged harshly for your somewhat smug assessment.
All those who stood on the sidelines, instead of sending their own nation's support and troops while the brave Iraqis who dared to join the Iraqi police and the Iraqi army and who took a stand against terrorist-induced sectarian violence in Baghdad, all those who comfortably sidelined themselves may yet have to look in the mirror and see their own errors in judgement.
December 15, 2006 2:03 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 15, 2006 02:03
I am an immigrant from India and I understand democracy and its flaws. You cannot rule a country democratically without political institutions and these do not surface overnight. I hope USA changes the strategy and embarks on a massive economic plan as they did in Europe after WW-II at the same time carry out covert operation and take out extream elements throughout the world.
December 13, 2006 5:35 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 13, 2006 17:35
Grog Boston:
I disagree about the dictator part ..
The US is not about morality or fairplay.
America doesnot support Democracies abroad.
Actually it nurtures and supports dictators.
Lets name a few:
Ayub and Zia and Musharraf of Pakistan.
Mubarak of Egypt
Shah of Iran.
Shuharto of Indonesia
Marcos of Phillipines
Pinochet of Chilli
Saddam (until he fell out of favour)
Saudi and Jordanian Kings
Samoza (Nicaragua)
Mobuto of Zaire.
Thats enough for now.
This is a partial list of thugs but they are America's thugs and hence OK.
December 12, 2006 8:46 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 12, 2006 20:46
It just never ends with the stupid people of my country. You need to either learn how to read or go crawl in your hole. I am tired of going abroad and being the bad guy. Please you conservitives who believe that we can just push others around go back to your mother and father who are brother and sister. I am just tired of the stupid people like you. You have destroyed this country have you not done enough. It is over because of people like you. I hope that when the Democrates take over the Republicans push the right wing out of the party so we can get back to where we were. You clowns have caused enought trouble and I and so many others are tired of paying for you religions.
December 12, 2006 8:01 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 12, 2006 20:01
Grog,
Hard Power is not the answer. Dialogue is the answer. The US refuses to dialogue with their enemies and the US can not KILL all their enemies. The US is relegated to dialogue with their enemies or US power will diminish. You can not torture or threaten people into democracy. The US' policy of divide and conquer failed as with all of the US policies on the Middle East.
December 12, 2006 6:06 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 12, 2006 18:06
Bush's policy is that peace can be obtained through shear might, try that in grade school and you would be called a bully. However, in politics it is America's foreign policy and they call it democracy. Yes I do not want 9/11 to happen again and I think those responsable should be drawn and quartered. But how much of our leaders arrogance through out time built up to a retaliation of 9/11 proportion. Lets not try to find a middle ground and make both sides happy just give us your oil (lunch money) and we will be happy and leave you alone. Our policy makers could learn a lot from the grade school playground.
December 12, 2006 5:05 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 12, 2006 17:05
In a limited way, I agree with grog. The problem, at the core, is stability. It takes only a meandering glance at history (which automatically eliminates most Americans) to see that since 1914 the social-political state of this planet has been far from any sense of being stable. Take a look around and point out the national groups capable of stabalizing (or for that matter, even wanting to stabilize) the six billion plus frightened, skittish, bigoted, ignorant, and downright silly mass of humanity.
The hard fact is that there aren't just a whole lot of candidates to choose from, except us. China? Japan? Germany? Britain? Iran? These groups have the neither the means, nor the will, nor the track record to engender much faith in their ability to stabalize anything, including themselves. (Why and how do you think the Palestinian came about in the first place? That issue traces right back to the pompous weenies at Downing Street.)
Sometimes the neighborhood cop gets a bit too full of himself ("Respect my authoritay!!!") and begins to act like a spoiled brat, and sometimes he gets distracted and misdirected; but, if you take him out of the equation then you're instantly into some really deep nasty.
Which is why a constant vigilance is necessary by the American people and why dunderheads like the editorial staff of this paper are quickly becoming criminally complicit in the BS that the Bush admin has been pulling. A weakend US is weaker GLOBAL stability. Yes, this govt is owned, lock, stock, and barrels by big business, and that must be the first thing to stop, but this country, for better or worse, is the last barrier this WORLD has between getting to piss and moan about things and Dark Age chaos.
Questions: Do you think China and NK have forgotten WWII? They aren't Americans, their memories still function. Without us in the picture, how long do think it will take before one of those two nukes Japan out of shear, base, revenge?
How long before Israel nukes Tehran? Syria invades Saudi Arabia? India nukes Pakistan and Pakistan nukes back? Egypt Invades Israrel? Hezbollah starts a genocide? Russia and China go at it (again)? Everybody and their brother makes a mad, vicious dash for the Caspian basin oil?
December 12, 2006 11:15 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 12, 2006 11:15
There was a time when the founders of the United States could go forward with the confidence of moral initiative. Those founders are no longer alive, and those who now attach themselves to the teat of those ideas maintain the illusion that their vision of democracy will be accomplished with a shake of a rattle.
Even if I concede that they have the balls to take on oppressive foreign dictators, this is not the same as saying they have the brains to find the middle path. It is a contradiction to say that freedom is enforceable. The United States is not seen by others as a liberator, neither in Iraq nor anywhere else. It is seen as the odd man out across a broad range of issues from disarmament, to the International Criminal Court, to the Kyoto Accord to the metric system.
The ascendency of China (and to a lesser extent India) will not be because the world's population has lovingly embraced the Chinese way of doing things. It will more likely reflect America's abandonment of its moral leadership.
December 12, 2006 4:40 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 12, 2006 04:40
You go to war with the Empire you have, not the Empire you might want or wish to have at a later time.
December 12, 2006 12:04 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 12, 2006 00:04
The current administration's arrogance, greed, and personal agenda took over after 9/11, and Iraq was dangling there like a big ol` Texas sized BBQ sandwich with all the fixins for our buddy G.W. Now that Georgie has beat the nest with a stick he can't control the bees and hes in over his head. This sting is goining to be felt for a while by all of us especially our soldiers who have become policemen. Time will take care of everything as soon as he inevitably does an about face and comes to terms with the situation in the middle east. We need to concentrate on our own domestic policy and create more opportunity for US citizens and let Arabs do what they do best. Argue and talk to allah...
December 11, 2006 3:58 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 11, 2006 15:58
Grog just to answer your comment, I want to make it clear that although US is a super power but things are getting out of control in Iraq. Just image how shameful it is that super power seeking help to stabilize Iraq. You need to understand that we "USA" don't have enough reserve troops to send to any other country. All the marine brigades have been to Iraq at least once. You need to do some more research from international media, American casualty in Iraq is 1000 soldiers per month and civilians are 1000/week.CNN and Fox would never tell you. We have to admit that we have lost the game in Iraq. We are all fighting for Oil, ignoring the fact that we have lost thousands of lives and still not sure if we going to get that oil and pipe line or not.
December 11, 2006 3:31 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 11, 2006 15:31
wow, the attitude of "Grog- Boston, MA" is precisely reminiscent of this current administration.
"just try us"... are we that arrogant now?
how's this for "trying" us... the US owes BILLIONS in debt to china every month. economically, we are literally at their mercy.
let's not get so air-headed that we forget that there are other powerful nations that can single-handedly affect the way we live.
December 11, 2006 2:29 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 11, 2006 14:29
A country's GNP is a good indicator of its power and so one must realize that USA in the only superpower around. Japan and Europe have chosen not to be armed powers, so no one else but the USA is capable of projecting power anywhere on the planet.
China and India will eventually become sizable regional powers, but I don't foresee they will have the resources to become superpowers. It's quite expensive to be a superpower and one must remember what has happened to the Soviet Union (Reagan pushed it into bankruptcy!).
Of course China and India are retaking their influence in the international arena using the new acquired wealth to buy every pet dictator worth the effort. India was an important power during the cold war, leading the group of non-aligned nations - a bit pro-soviet to tell the truth.
But I believe democracy is an inexorable force of the modern world. In the information society a country can't be successful and oppress its own people. This can only happen in oil rich countries.
So the West approach must be to reduce our dependence on oil, and fast. Perhaps the next American president is not too tied to the oil business and starts acting reasonably, pushing for energy efficiency. If the oil barrel was at USD 40, Iran and Venezuela wouldn't be messing around so loudly.
December 11, 2006 12:51 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 11, 2006 12:51
How could you even suggest that India and China are up to the task to challenge the US in foreing areas. Have you ever visted those countries? They can barley keep themselves afloat little alone influence anyone except by threat of breeding them out of existance. What is the GNP of India and China verse the USA? And how can a person support Chinas policy of "taking the low road" in dealing with 3rd world nations by letting them do whatever they want to its persons and enviroment as long as China gets the raw materials it needs. You ask the world weither they would rather have the US dominate with its values or the Chinese with there "every person is worthless as long as the state getst what it needs" values, and I think your answer is clear. If the US is losing its influence and the 21 centry is the "Asian Century" with outsiders rooting for US demise and China rise, then the saying "be careful what you wish for because you just may get it" comes to mind.
December 11, 2006 10:34 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 11, 2006 10:34
If you think American power and status has been diminished and we are less likely to engage in military action when confronted by hostility...just try us.
We liberated over 40 million souls in the Middle East; giving them representative government and Constitutions in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was America, which is the only country that has the balls to take such action that freed so many people. The rest of the world are a bunch of cowards and impotent blatherers.
America is the ONLY power in the world and will be for your lifetimes.
December 11, 2006 10:32 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 11, 2006 10:32
Does the term Ugly American ring a bell?
December 11, 2006 10:31 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on December 11, 2006 10:31