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President Bush Needs a Time Out

How about some diplomacy for a change? The only ones who’ll benefit from this kind of outrageous rhetoric are Ahmedinejad and his ilk.

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JOSÉ:

What surpise me is the few political influence from republican and democrats to stop the descredit of the American diplomacy. In the other hand, citizens worr about taxes and how much war costs (money and lives).

Amercians are loosing capacity to be the major actor in diplomacy fields, basing positions by force, not by claver world-views. It seems when a country becomes a powerful one, justice becomes the interest of the strongest.

Ned Delaney:

I'm not going to let this go, and I'll eventually find someone with the fortitude to drive this issue home.

I attended a recent session of our local peace coalition group and asked them to consider the energy their expending on an issue that's not likely to change as long as presidential power remains in place.

I asked them to consider refocusing on 911 and call for: one) the impeachment of Bush and Chaney and two) an independent investigation into the controversy hovering about the 911 Commission Report.

It's curious that the Washington Post would blow the lid off of Watergate but totally ignore 911, when 911 makes Watergate look like child's play.

Yes, there's an election coming on. It's never stopped the news before, why should it now? What's so different about journalism now compared to Watergate? It appears the country is being sacrificed for the sake of politics, corporate expansion, and blatant corruption and our troops pawns in the game. On which side of the board is the Post playing?

alkan.levent @ mynet.com:


ich cheere
du cheerest
esersie cheeret
wir cheeren
ihr cheert
sie Sie cheeren

Vivian, you are a lady. Queen has 2700 diamonds on the crown. 2800 people can stand on the wings of an A380 plane. USA Congress had billed 3+1 ship and 27M USD.

cheerest du, Vivian?

alkan.levent @ mynet.com:


israelsons must have an attunement with Jesus and Muhammed, and an atonement with Spain Vatican and Venice.

israelsons, you have been punished by the Queen. you have a resentment for desert. you cannot apologize while you are rebuilding in Israel again. you may apologize and go wherever you want.

why dont you begin with reading Cosmic Zygote with Xgote too on a lively beach? and then you can be in the library with many books and wisdom.

why dont you have your second birth, dear Israel? those who cry in front of a wall can delepidate the bricks one by one to see the ray of light. the first time they see the light in each of all shall be great for them.

today, make a new civilization. not for Christ to come, to be in a civilization with cheer. and you shall be free of your nine days.

yours is an atonement and restructure today. no, make the brand new one. and no one shall cook boza on our necks to drink as much as we can.

boza (to booze) : An acidulated fermented drink of the Arabs and Egyptians, made from millet seed, corn, barley, wheat, and various astringent substances; also, an intoxicating beverage made from hemp seed, darnel meal, and water.

you know what it is to have water flowing, dont you, dear Israel? have you not applied for the Book To Be Read, yet?

i cooked, have you unjoyed? cook then. on YOUR neck this time. you shall have WATER in the DESERT! for more, refer to Quran, if you please.

for all of us, you have put stones over stones. but you have not informed us yet. you are like a student studying on a project other students concerned but you study for the teacher. then what kind of a relation do you have with other students till you complete the project?

some more, for "espall oc", with ESPALIER OAK. an OAK tree may be an espalier for plants and bushes to grow.

have you ever seen an OAK tree to make plans to educate plants and bushes, destroying and torturing to remind them of being a plant bush or even a tree?

why dont you invite all for chopping their penises with an axe under an OAK tree? or please invite them to have the Awareness of Universal Rules, which is perfect transliteration of the process above.

Israel is busy with health of their penises, my Queen, not with their awareness and wisdom. they missed earthly fulfilment for long.

Moses had a stick as druids had. and soon they may too, besides pants and jackets, just a cloth. and they do not need to be unhappy for this one cloth.

Christopher Jon Batis:

Get It Right, Condy
by Christopher Jon Batis

Pakistan is a nuclear power. Having launched a civilian nuclear program in 1955, Pakistan first sought to become a nuclear weapons state in 1972. Pakistan first successfully tested its nuclear weapons technology in 1998, shortly after India.

There are clear signs that religious extremists in Pakistan, such as the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, have nuclear ambitions. There is nuclear infrastructure in the Pakistani Northwest Frontier Province which is ruled by conservative, religious, political parties and is adjacent to tribal areas where the Taliban are strong and Al-Qaeda have a presence.

These facts are well known, or should be, by the Bush administration. It is also accepted that, within the Pakistani military, those who have the proverbial finger on the button, there are jihadist sympathizers and that the jihadists are moving from the outlining areas of the country into the central cities.

It is of equal general concensus that Iran will not have a nuclear weapons capability for another ten years. Any fair minded person armed with this information must ask why the Bush administration, aware of this scenario, using Secretary of State Condoleeza rice as their bearer of fearful bad news, is so adamant about leveling sanctions against Iran claiming its role in the "axis of evil?" The same fair minded individual must also ask why these Pakistani developments are not at the forefront of media coverage? Perhaps he/she has not been made aware of the facts.

The Florida Times Union published an article on Sunday relevant to this issue. The story was on page A-14 while the front page sported the headline "How "Bout That" reporting on the outcome of the Florida/Georgia football game. A football game. How about that, indeed. I know the Times Union has a Sports section. I'm looking at it right now.

There is something alarming, disturbing, and suspicious about, seemingly, the deflection of focus away from the real issues that affect the nation and its citizens by the Bush administration and the media in general. Is there a connection? If so, why? Perhaps these are the most frightening questions of all.

stmarike@gmail.com:


collapse, from right to left, is "espalloc".

dam collapse, from right to left, is "espalle ocmad"

ocmad: one can make a difference (on google)
esp alloc: precognition allocated

is Mosul for Spain? or is there a spell on Mosul?
or is a clairvoyance requested?

what is the story of Jonah and fish in Mosul? was he captured by a babelonian? or is it semi-fish semi-human enemy of israel? or enemies of Jesus?

in Iran, there are dolphins, (Jonah was in a dolphin in some sources), eyes of dolphins were out and they did not suicide. they have been murdered, and tortured, there is blood around, 150 of them.

so enemies of israel or Jonah have been murdered and threatened in Iran.

what is the deal with Spain in North of Iraq?

stmarike@gmail.com:

and Cecilia x-Sarkozy does not murder a man for the money of an Airbus 380, or thousands for a so called holiday of Modular Arithmetic interpretation of Talmut.

and she does not put a man into debt with electromagnetic mobile phone means to stop and to inquiry for another person with my name who has petroleum business with Russia. there are plenty of men with my name, but i am in debt. i want compensation. i have more than 35.000 YTL debt and i am not able to move to be with my friends.

stmarike@gmail.com:

i really want to know why "comment box" did not open. i have a new account but it did not open too.

yesterday was birthday of a Teacher of Portuguese at high schools in Portugal.

please copy paste this into word processor within "courier new" font. within this font, each of the characters has equal space.

happy birthday happy birthday Baninha

Bibiana Baninha Margarida Reis Araujo
birth of sons are for thy heart to go
daughters are for our laughters to be
you're not one of who stand up to pee

you raise child to be in joy, in love
you give maturity in any case any how
nephews cousins your guest your being
you bless births, today your blessing

happy birthday happy birthday Baninha

Levent Alkan, 29.10.2007

could you send this message to Anne Applebaum, too? what i learned from Cecilia x-Sarkozy are frankness, humbleness and honour. i have something i nme forgiving, and she has plenty from a source to give. she is able to look deep into the eyes on the photos, and her two feet are on the ground.

she does not need an AIRBUS 380 to have a few words with Michael. she can ride a bike (and she is not mormon) and she can put on a helmet to protect her head (and she is still not mormon :).

as far as i have heard, Prime Minister of Israel, pro-state of Olmert is in Hungary. Nicolas SArkozy is from Hungary also.

sometimes, men give from their flesh, and Mr Olmert shall have an operation on his pro-state, this is the language. either on a plane, or on the body or on the land.

Mr Olmert, you know for what is your surname in my tongue, and you know for whom is my name. i hope you shall be able to erect World Trade Center Towers, for the sake of your surname.

we hear about Russian and American space journeys but we dont hear about French journeys in Africa Darfur Sudan.

Mr Olmert, you are from my blood and you must be from my sperm also. the gentleness we see on your photos must be in your tongue also. we dont call a man MERT, when he is different than he is for some reasons. and you shall be operated soon.

why dont you ask from the Queen to be in California, Mr Olmert? shall you be after the operation?

thanks Vivian, excuse me if this message is out of discussion policies.

Faramarz Fathi:


Alex :

Unless one, like the rest of readers here, is willing to challenge and debate the writer intellectually, will not be taken seriously and the vulgarities unleashed at writer, are just as valuable as what exits rear end of a scorpion.

Jakub:

One interesting viewpoint regarding "why" Bush may be rattling the nation further is presented in the student film Zeitgeist.

Zeitgeistmovie.com

alkan.levent @ mynet.com:

((2+8)+(1+0)).(2+0+0+7)
= 11.9

(2+8).((1+0)+(2+0+0+7))
= 10.10

alkan.levent @ mynet.com:

sometimes on the coasts of wide ocean
turquoise water is under the blue sky
white clouds, like feathers in motion
are together with the breath of a guy

President needs Times author to write
bridge shall open for a fleet to sail
clock tower is ought to seek and hide
the gentlemen have virtues to prevail

28.10.2007
Levent Alkan

conscience-to-the-world:

Hello World! and especially to the Developing Nations!

The real terrible facts found in this present world to all to view and think as:

Fact-1: China and Russia are two most terrible and most treacherous and harmful nations sitting in UNSC, exploiting this organization inhumanly and dangerously to flare up, initiate and promote devastations to several nations, and to influence, convince, condone and support the world criminals and tyrants, especially those naive and mindless nations (i.e., Syria, Iran, Sudan, Venezuela, Burma, N. Korea, etc.,) to practice violence of all sorts, domestically and globally, and all acting like their Russia and China terrorizing communist masters such as: Iran, Syria, N. Korea, Burma, Venezuela, Central Asian nations, etc., to follow their brutal violences, lawless and uncivilized ways to run their terrorizing businesses at home and to other nations!

Fact-2: Iran, the land of fanatic terrors and terrorists that relentlessly loves to apply the murderous deeds and efforts to devastate other nations and including its own unfortunate brainwashed citizens, who suddenly turn themselves naively from harmless innocents previously into the present very blood-thirsty crazy murderers and terrorists! as proven worldwide!

These Fact-1 and Fact-2 are the main ingredients to boil up this world and all unfortunate nations and their citizens have directly and indirectly become infested by these world diseases caused by the both offending, very bloodly communist Russia, China and the mindless and shallow-minded followers as shown to the world that the unfortunate and foolish tyrants have volunteerly become slaves for their China and/or Russia or both masters in order to be able to exploit all resources and lives in their own nations!

The problem partly is due to this world is full with naive and mindless and have-no-value tyrants who are very easily to be corrupted by their masters, that these naive tyrants have forcibly gained controls their own nations and have deadly opportunities be able to enslave and devastate their own innocent citizens like animals and no-more-and-no-less than the millions of suffered animals in this world today!. And sadly, these very little valuable UN and UNSC can do nothing to help them while the both harmful and treacherous China and Russia that only want them to die in suffering, in torturing of all sorts in their own lands as the entire world have seen for years!
In essence, the entire mindless nations ruled by their own bloody, iron-fisted tyrants these devastating folks are nothing more than the volunteered victims for both China and Russia!, and unfortunately, only China and Russia can harvest all benefits greedily for themselves at the cost of millions of innocents suffering mentally and physically and endlessly as seen by all mankind!
And these are the very sad things of human misery that all mankind have to see in the days in and days out in several unfortunate nations where people here should deserve the better lives instead of valueless life of the slaves or born to be automatically become slaves as seen!

Thanks and have a good weekend to all!

Cayambe, Philo, CA-USA:

My goodness, Vivian. I do believe I detect a bit of passion, along with some outrage mixed with a touch of incredulity. Good for you. It is appropriate to the occasion and I am happy to see that among the 150 plus comments many of us agree on that. Chalk one up for the lady you see in the mirror.

But yes, he is SERIOUS. I do believe that both President Bush and Vice-President Cheney actually believe in what they are trying to do. They believe what they are doing is “right” for America and that it is their duty to pursue it whether it is popular or not. They bring to this endeavor real political skills, good enough to have had their way for 6 plus years now, despite all opposition in the last 3 years especially. Were they right, it would be a great thing in history. But they are not right, and so it will be a terrible thing in our history.

The President’s rhetoric is nothing if not “Imperial”. Whether it be Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Syria, or Cuba, he speaks of what we will permit and not permit. We will not permit Raul Castro to succeed his brother Fidel in power. We will not permit Iran to enrich its own Uranium, even to know how to do it. We will not permit Iraq any form of government other than a central democracy. We will not permit North Korea to have nuclear weapons. And so it goes. The question is, where did we get the authority to grant or not grant these permissions to other sovereign nations? Do we believe that we are in a unipolar world and we are uniquely powerful enough to dictate as we see fit?

I am a fan of Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, at least in certain regards. He is rather silly when he takes up denying the holocaust. On the other hand he is quite good at recounting the history of Palestine as seen through the eyes of the Palestinians and Arabs. We might be better served as a nation if we understood this history from both Palestinian and Jewish points of view, but we generally don’t get that balance in either our news or most of our history books. I do think he is more than just a figurehead. He has some extensive powers of appointment and substantial influence over the economy. But you are correct to say he is NOT a major decision maker in foreign affairs.

About war, you wrote:
“It should always be a last resort, not a basis of intimidation.”

Madame Albright, President Clinton’s Secretary of State, would vociferously disagree with the second part of your sentence. She has long argued that diplomacy, to be effective, must be backed up by a credible threat of military force. That’s why they called the War in the Balkans, Mrs. Allbright’s War.

Unfortunately, the first part of your sentence has very little real meaning. In the present case the real question is whether to go to War with Iran and when. The “neocons” would answer yes and now on the basis that Iran is now a threat and some 3 years of diplomacy has gone nowhere. All too many Republicans would answer yes and at a time of our choosing when the war program has been sold to the public. A fair number of Democrats sign on to the Republican formulation on the basis that a nuclear Iran is an unacceptable threat to Israel. The remaining Democrats have wet fingers in the air trying to judge which way the public wind blows. Then there are the woefully few of us who would answer absolutely not and never until such time as we or one of our treaty allies are attacked by Iran.

You wrote:
“I can only assume that the chances of seeing another war during the current US administration are slim given that there is just about a year left on the clock.”

That is simply not true. You can do other things besides making an entirely unnecessary assumption. It is entirely possible for our good President to embark on a military adventure in Iran in the time remaining to him. Whatever its probability, there should be vociferous opposition to this idea. I recall vividly how improbable I thought it was that President Bush really meant to invade Iraq. I recall vividly how sure I was that the public would never buy such a phoney baloney sales pitch … mushroom clouds and unmanned planes with 6 foot wing spans bombing New York City. I made assumptions too, and they were all dead wrong.

VivianisaDUMMY:

Alex :
Vivian is as naive as her stupid smile. She obviously does not know the world, let alone the Iranian regime.

Sweetie: go get your manicure and leave the serious issues to serious people.


WELL PUT, ALEX!

NotanIdiot:

I'm a registered Democrat, and if you idiots, including the author of this extremely unknowledgeable naive blog, which, like I said, belongs on page 10,000 of the internet, don't know enough about what has already been done in the name of diplomacy with a rogue state that is hell bent on the destruction of the US, and in making itself the superior nation, then, you deserve what you get.

Meanwhile, REALPOLITIK dictates that the surgical strike on Iran must come sooner, rather than later, and we need all our allies in the region that we can get to support our military engagement in the Islamic Republic, because, THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN HAS GOT TO GO.

Mike:

I have to laugh at the liberal views on this board. For all of the moaning about Bush having a simplistc view of the world, you America-haters have topped him with the most simplistic and ignorant view of the world possible : "Bush bad".

Nice to see so many Americans rushing to the defense of any dictator who opposes Bush. Spare us yor whining about having your patriotism questioned. You hate Bush far more than you love your coutnry and your patriotism should be questioned.

Tom Miller:

From Iraq on, I haven't supported Bush-Cheney policies in the Mid-East but I have to say that I also don't support Ahmadinejad, the Syrian (Iranian supported) medling in Lebanon, or the Iranian arming of the Shia in Iraq and I believe that all three are contributing more to the possibility for a World War III that the ill-advised comments from an administration that has over-extended American power under false pretenses. Where is the outrage from journalists when Ahmadinejad says he wants to erase Israel from the map? You are really OK with this guy and his theocratic wacko puppet masters having a nuclear weapon? He's just a harmless little guy in a harmless little country being bullied by a lame-duck President limping through his last year? Wow!

Keith:

Mark, I agree with you that President Bush is threatening Iran because no one is stopping him, but I think you missed an important point: most of what the President does, or say, is not of his own making; there is a formidable group behind the President that's pushing this agenda, an agenda that's not in the interest of America. It is with this group that we should be concerned, and rise up to oppose before they bring America down for their personal gains.

dave:

America, too proud to actually admit the reasoning for war . (oil for Euros)
Iran knows now that America is a dried up prune it has wasted itself in Iraq and Afghanistan ,Afghanistan so that an oil pipeline can be built,Iraq was for ,you guessed it oil for Euro .
But Iran as bad as Bush would love to bomb it into the stone age for daring to sell it's oil in yen,yuan and Euro. Can not proceed ,Both Russia and China The giants of the east declare Iran to be a no go. America better take heed as to fail to do so would mean ww3 at a time when America's army is fatigued ,worn out.The worst possible timing for ww3
in terms of Americans being prepared .Iraq and Afghanistan will fail,any pipeline built in Afghanistan will be blown up,Iraq will never end until America leaves, these people will never give up.America with all of it's fine weapons of war,with it's leaders so dim witted .We fail to see that being drunk on arrogance and power,just as in Vietnam is no match for a people's will to be victorious.Even if you torture ,rape and murder them. They will prevail.
My only lament concerns the willingness to use depleted Uranium weapons on a people that did nothing to us except own oil.
America's shame is the shame of all Americans.
hang your heads you have become death destroyer of worlds.

Augusto:

Posted on October 26, 2007 02:03

Spring Rain:
Richard Lewis:
IS SHE SERIOUS? As I was reading Vivian's article I was astounded by her arrogance and naivete. Inadequate research. Too much information taken from left-wing blogs. A lack of fresh, independent thinking. She failed this writing assignment!

I COULD NOT agree more, Richard, the arrogance, naivete and just plain stupidity of this woman is rather breathtaking-a failure ALL AROUND-she definitely needs to go get a real job, or actually try doing some research and study before she goes mouthing off about things she clearly knows NOTHING about.

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The fanatics are getting pissed off.

Good job Vivian, remember, facts are to fanatics what garlic is to dracula, they scare the hell out of them because these folks are forced to acknowledge reality.

B Meyer:

I am afraid. I am very afraid. Not of Iran but the Neocons,K-Street,&(Ice),Blackwater,martial law, cancelation of 08 elections, hold on their's a knock on my door. It's about time mainstreet media are beginning to open their eyes.

Bully Buster:

I, for one, think that the US has become a world class bully. Where does it say that the US can dictate how other countries conduct their affairs? As for the terrorist threat, if we had minded own own busines to start with, I don't think we would be a target for terrorists today. I find it quite amusing that the US likes to pick on smaller, weaker countries and not pick on someone who could really fight back. Pick on Russia, why don't you? See what happens then. You wouldn't dare do that, would you? Anyway, maybe our saving grace will be that a country like Russia steps in and says "enough is enough". I bet they won't tolerate that missle shield either. Try to bully your way in to that one. Time for the bully to get a bloody nose. This madness has got to stop.

Arbusto:

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly "Godwins Law" gets invoked in response to an opinion that differs from the official party line. Suddenly our perceived enemies are Nazis and to appease them would somehow be repeating history. Iran would immediately take over the entire middle east and start rounding up Israels by the millions and send them in railcars to Tehran for the final solution. It's only up to us, and our glorious omnipotent leader, to show up riding the mighty white stallion of peace and justice with six shooters ablazin', to save the day and rescue the world from "Snidely Amahdinajad Whiplash". And for Ms Salama to report otherwise somehow makes her un-American. It's shameful to see that this once-great country has been reduced to a population of ignorant petulant children, with the biggest one as their leader. We reap what we sow.

Arbusto:

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly "Godwins Law" gets invoked in response to an opinion that differs from the official party line. Suddenly our perceived enemies are Nazis and to appease them would somehow be repeating history. Iran would immediately take over the entire middle east and start rounding up Israels by the millions and send them in railcars to Tehran for the final solution. It's only up to us, and our glorious omnipotent leader, to show up riding the mighty white stallion of peace and justice with six shooters ablazin', to save the day and rescue the world from "Snidely Amahdinajad Whiplash". And for Ms Salama to report otherwise somehow makes her un-American. It's shameful to see that this once-great country has been reduced to a population of ignorant petulant children, with the biggest one as their leader. We reap what we sow.

Arbusto:

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly "Godwins Law" gets invoked in response to an opinion that differs from the official party line. Suddenly our perceived enemies are Nazis and to appease them would somehow be repeating history. Iran would immediately take over the entire middle east and start rounding up Israels by the millions and send them in railcars to Tehran for the final solution. It's only up to us, and our glorious omnipotent leader, to show up riding the mighty white stallion of peace and justice with six shooters ablazin', to save the day and rescue the world from "Snidely Amahdinajad Whiplash". And for Ms Salama to report otherwise somehow makes her un-American. It's shameful to see that this once-great country has been reduced to a population of ignorant petulant children, with the biggest one as their leader. We reap what we sow.

None:

She spelled "Adolf" wrong.

Left of Cambridge:

To Silence Dogood,

You don't have good things to say about Neville Chamberlain...but his intentions were good.

And Woodrow Wilson, he also had good intentions when he came up with the idea of the League of Nations.

Wilson also had good intentions when refering to WWI as the "war-to-end-all-wars."

We need a President who has good intentions...and one who sees the goodness in North Korean and Iranian leaders.

Who does the UN think it is to limit nuclear proliferation? Every country should be free to explore "self-determination!"

JRLR:

"How about some diplomacy for a change?...I can't imagine why any leader would rattle an already war-fatigued America with this kind of rhetoric. I can only assume that the chances of seeing another war during the current US administration are slim given that there is just about a year left on the clock."

I can imagine why. Some people have proven repeatedly they would do anything to seize power, and remain in power. Nothing like an external threat, a common demonized "enemy", to rally a huge majority of Americans behind, no matter what. It has been done before.

The greatest mistake has always been to make Bush, like Hitler before, into a scapegoat. All this nonsense is much bigger than Bush: it is the business and responsibility of each and every American, either directly or indirectly. Just like those committed in Vietnam, the crimes committed in Iraq, in Guantanamo, etc. are just too monstrous for citizens in this country to swallow. For they are their own crimes too.

So beware! The clock is indeed ticking... and Machiavelli is roaming the streets.

alkan.levent@mynet.com:


while watching cable-tv broadcast of predetermined channels, arms and legs of my body gets numb.

while watching with antenna, my body is comfortable. what is the difference in the broadcasts?

so till you learn, you pay and they earn. and with this money, or anything in return, they prepare lectures and live. have you learned?

for example, what shall be with the poems and messages in WaPo? i have not met the moderation yet.

Dave Helli:

Lilian Salama is a very foolish writer to publish a statement that clearly reveals that she has no idea at all what the President actually said. What the President actually said was; "But this -- we got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel. So I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon. I take the threat of Iran with a nuclear weapon very seriously." - Bush

No-where does the President threaten war. Just the opposite; he is cautioning against the threat of war. Ms Salama owes her readers an apology, and she needs to return to the source materials to understand what was actually said.

Silence Dogood:

Vivian,

If you will grant that the leaders of Iran and North Korea are belligerent leaders of countries that are not experiencing an illegal immigration problem; could you indicate how you process the failings/failures of Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain on the World stage in 1939/1940?

He attempted the very thing you propose with belligerent leaders and found no success, yet you -and others- advance it as if Chamberlain's Munich "victory" never happened or Wilson's "war-to-end-all-wars-League-of-Nations" was also successful.

Please explain how the belligerent leaders of the world have changed their ways (in view of UN limits on nuclear proliferation, supposedly settled thirty or forty years ago)and now present themselves as amenable to bending to UN nudging and restrictions. Many of us are struck by a sense that, like Hitler at Munich, belligerent leaders equate "diplomacy" as an opportunity to "stall-for-needed-time" while their henchmen advance their un-Wilsonian schemes. For example, in 1994: "Yes, we will stop nuclear development up here in N. Korea, please keep sending oil and food."

Jim:

This program from PBS gives one a very good idea about the abysmal nature of Bush diplomacy.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/showdown/etc/synopsis.html

Showdown with Iran

Jim:

I hope every one has at least noticed that there isn't one scintilla of evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program. The evidence that Iraq had WMD was much better than the speculation that Iran has a weapons program.

Every thing that Iran is doing or has proposed to do is completely allowable under the NPT. It's just the Bush doesn't want Iran to do what it's allowed to do under the NPT.

On the other hand. Israel has nukes and refuses to sign the NPT. But you certainly aren't going to see the US sanction Israel for refusing to cooperate by signing the NPT.

But since the US is the only elephant on the block, who is there to stop us? Face up to it. There's not a damn thing any country can do to stop President Bush from doing what he wants to do. Nor can the American people.

Jim

PSU Chris:

I agree with the reporter wholeheartedly. There are serious parallels to the run up to Iran in comparison to the run-up to Iraq. More media members need to hammer this point, and our inept Congress needs to grow some man parts and stand up to the neocons. Chris Matthews and Olbermann are doing it, but so far they're all alone in the wilderness of opposition. Come on Dems, act like an opposition party!

alkan.levent@mynet.com:


to Vivian Salama

in Spanish Arabic transliteration, V is B. so Vivian is Bibian. Bibiana in Portuguese is Mother Fatima. Fatima is Daughter of Muhammed.

in Portugal, Fatima is a city near Valongo. FAtima means "who has just raised her child after months of breastfeeding". a friend of mine had an aunt from Sweden, and her name was Aunt Bibi.

i love "The New Adventures of Old Christine".
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/old_christine/

why i wrote this is to drive your attention to languages and cultures, and how to make use of them in speech and addressing.

in Windows Vista "astalavista", the opening screenshot is four parts of a waving square-like flag, with blue silver lightning STRIKING the four parts of the flag.

what you GET in these messages is the reason why there are taxes 7 times more than the price of oil imported to Anatolia, totally making 8 parts, an education to be hand-some on virtues and wisdom.

in Iran, prices of houses and food have been doubled. the body and intakes like music, philosophy, movies, family relations, anything to ears eyes mouths noses and hearts, shall be from "one of three" to "two of three", making all three of three, in du-alit-y.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/23/AR2007102301806_Comments.html

is the title of your article related with BASEBALL, that Mr Bush hit none of the throws? at least, we can hit a few of what Mr Bush throws.

gwbush2323:

Truer words could not be spoken. Right on target.

Dwight:

why don't you go and try to negociate, see for yourself how hard it is instead of just opening your mouth and blabing.in the middle east, they would cut you down for opening your mouth because you are a women.

Jukeboy:

What splits my gut is the way defenders of Bush think we should trust anything Boy George says (to be truth) with his history of serial dishonesty - thats a riot! Oh gee, the world is flat - can't you see that? ... yes.

Mike:

Right, Bush is on the verge of "bombing people into submission."

Really, Vivian, I think the idea of an Iran with nukes is bigger and more important than your obvious disdain of Pres. Bush. The 2008 elections will come soon enough, so catch your breath.

Throwing out catch-words like "diplomacy," while high-sounding, adds little to the debate.

Iran is led by a nut, and diplomacy assumes you are dealing with a rational person. Some mild saber rattling is a good thing. Calm down and have a little faith in your country.

Oh, wait, I forgot: "Bush lied, people died!!!"

Mike:

Right, Bush is on the verge of "bombing people into submission."

Really, Vivian, I think the idea of an Iran with nukes is bigger and more important than your obvious disdain of Pres. Bush. The 2008 elections will come soon enough, so catch your breath.

Throwing out catch-words like "diplomacy," while high-sounding, adds little to the debate.

Iran is led by a nut, and diplomacy assumes you are dealing with a rational person. Some mild saber rattling is a good thing. Calm down and see if you can have a little faith in your country.

"Bush lied, people died!!!"

The Infidel:

I have to say I'm quite sick of it myself, but believe we have far more reason to go to war with Iran than we did with Iraq. However, because of it's impact on oil I highly doubt there being more than sanctions unless Iran forces us to do so. It's important to note however, it's not President Bush pushing World War 3 on Iran, it's Iran continuing on with a practice in which World War 3 could be a consequence. He uses the term World War 3 because that's what it's gonna be if we allow Iran to procure Nuclear Weapons. I should also note that all Muslims feel the impact of the few that go to extremes, and eventually it will become increasingly harder for muslims from a sociological perspective to live peaceful lives here in the United States. Next time a U.S. Soldier Dies, lets see an uprising even half the size of the uprising over the dutch cartoon. Next time a muslim goes into a mosque and pitches a teror plan, lets see all the muslims there call the FBI and let them know. I doubt that will ever happen, and it's sad because it's just going to make it harder on the Muslim population in the future.

Fredrick Schwartz:

This action to continue in this vein against iran makes no sense at all diplomatically or militarily. However, from a standpoint of an adminsitration that has nothing to lose and wishes to ensure that the world is left in worse shape for his their successors it is perfect illogic.

How many more millions of souls will have to perish before Human Beings try Peace and learn to follow the Truth?

Ray Atwood:

Dear Vivian,

With all due respect, President Bush HAS used dipomacy in his administration. He convinced the Libyans to give up their WMB program; he is working diplomatically on the North Korean nuclear program; we used government and private aid to assist the Indonesian tsumani victims; we are working with the Europeans on the Iran nuclear issue, and we are working with Pakistan on terrorism and other issues. He believes in and uses diplomacy. He also believes force is a legitimate option at times. We are ramping up the rhetoric on Iran to warn them of the serious consequences of "going nuclear."

It would be nice if the drive-by media looked at the full Bush Administration record when commenting on issues like the "World War III" comment.

Nikki:

In a democratic country, actions taken by the government is in a sense will of the people. If public and media does not ask their leaders poignant questions, such as how many people from leader's own families will volunteer in case of a war, where will the money come from and what people's issues and problems will be sacrificed to fight the war, we all are giving a blank check for wars in which we actually are not interested. Is'nt it the difference between dictatorship and democracy?
Nikki

Nikki:

In a democratic country, actions taken by the government is in a sense will of the people. If public and media does not ask their leaders poignant questions, such as how many people from leader's own families will volunteer in case of a war, where will the money come from and what people's issues and problems will be sacrificed to fight the war, we all are giving a blank check for wars in which we actually are not interested. Is'nt it the difference between dictatorship and democracy?
Nikki

Andrew:

Bush has no diplomatic credibility in the Middle East. Any meaningful approach to resolving the mess he's created has to begin with the one thing he is incapable of doing: admitting that he was wrong to invade Iraq.

His current rhetoric continues the same diseased logic that abandoned action in Afghanistan when it was still working in order to begin to antagonize and scare the rest of the world.

He needs to be removed from any position where he can do more damage. And Cheney needs to be impeached relating to the relationship with Haliburton that goes back to his days as Secretary of Defense in 1989.

Michael:

Bush and Agmedinegad both are cast in the same mold, they both see themselves as bringers of the apocalypse and the return of their respective messiahs. Make no mistake, they are both certifiable and could turn the Middle East into an inferno if left unchecked. The results of which would be catastrophe for many countries including the U.S.

Andrew Prieditis:

I respectfully disagree with your analysis on President Bush. Iran is a very real and serious threat to the middle east, and a nuclear Iran should be stop at all costs. I think America needs to make use of all options - the sanctions are a good start - to place the pressure on Tehran. I am behind the President 100%

GMHeller:

Salama makes a good flak for the appeasement crowd, but as a foreign policy advisor she appears decidedly weak. George W. is doing what long ago should have been done to Iran: Laying down the law. He should take that position as far as necessary, even to the extent of taking extreme measures. Iran's present government is a Cancer on the rest of the Middle East, and needs to be surgically removed ASAP.

William:

I find it funny that even Ms. Vivian Salama come off as being a political leader and a school teacher to boot. Well Ms. Vivian, actions speak much louder than words and for your information Ahmedinejad's words and actions on the ground are those leading to war, not President Bush. Ms. Vivian, we have be at the diplomatic table for quite some time with Iran so your "How about some diplomacy for a change" comment holds no water.

Oh and by the way Mahmoud Ahmedinejad is not winning the "hearts and minds" of the people of Iran and around the world, he may have won over your heart and mind and the millions like you but nothing more than that.

For all of you "Monday morning Presidents" out there, you have based all your comments of what the President has done or said on what you have read in the newspapers and all the left wing blogs out here, but before you open your mouth, maybe you should ask yourself a question, I'll help you start thinking, ask yourself, Do I have the all the information that puts this situation in context? Obviously you don't and neither do I.

I know this might be a difficult concept for you all to understand but, try to trust, put your faith in your country and it's elected leaders. Believe in your country and what it has done in the past and will keep doing in the future.

katman:

Alex:
BYTE ME. You obviously are an idiot. Go kick a dog, I'm sure that is what you do for fun

alkan.levent@mynet.com:


World War Three?

in German and English, "war = vor" it is
World "before, in front of, to, besides" Three.

in RIKE, with MA, i may present MARIKE, MArk, Mary and Mike. so STRIKE is Saint of MArk, MAry and Mike.

news from front page of WaPo, "Strike on Iran Would Roil Oil Markets, Experts Say"

Strike on Iran would re-Oil Oil Markets, experts say. St Rike on Iran would re-virtue the virtue sources, experts say. oil is for virtues and graceful wisdom.

so this is World Vor Three. World "forewards towards" MArk, MAry and Mike.

vivid greetings, with your grant, dearest Vivian Salama of Nahuatl.

Alex :

Vivian is as naive as her stupid smile. She obviously does not know the world, let alone the Iranian regime.

Sweetie: go get your manicure and leave the serious issues to serious people.

USAFREEDOMMAN:

I think that a time out is a very childish thing to say. If you think talking rather than action is the key, just ask all those single parents who lost there loved ones on 9/11. I think a "time out" is a insult to what they go thru every day. I say Bush is right, go get who did this horrible act so that people like YOU will have the freedom you love to exploit every day. Don't EVER lose that feeling you felt when you got up on 9/11 and learned what happen!!