@john smith:

"Islam is at war with every society in the world today?" - This is misleading assessment : The war started in the middle east as a result of the creation of Israel after the Holocaust in Europe and Jewish terrorists' activities in Palestine. The war started in Kuwait as a result of misleading statement of US ambassador to Iraq (1989-1990 first Gulf war) to Saddam Husein.

"for the first time in history, due to a unique geopolitical conjunction of factors, Islam is in confrontation with all of the major world religions" -- It's just because for the first time the world is so small in time dimension by flying and ideas spread so quick by TV/Radio/Internet . It's not geopolitical conjunction of factors but mostly economic factors like oil production or high-tech weapon production that is the key to any confrontation. To ignore those economic factors is to refuse to accept that greed is the natural motor of human activities.

Calling Muslims the problem or Jews the problem doesn't solve it. The problem is calling name and then killing the bad ones. Instead solving the problem is based on the assumption that any human wants peace and further his economic situation, and war only help few to satisfy their needs, let others die for those artificial cause that is created and printed wittingly or unwittingly on the order of those few. You could have shared security or you don't have any, the world is too small for a group of self-proclaim chosen people destined to be rich and secured, no matter whether they're US citizens, Jews, Muslims or Chinese :-)

LIFE IS SO BEATIFUL with US "Jaktan" Abraham ECLATARi-On(s),

And Not withe those "Peleg" Abraham "Muslim/Muslum, Jewish, Christian, Vedic, Budha et al WAT(s), of whom, the "US Joktan Eclati-ons" will RULE THE WORLD, in 400 years.

And the "HOLOCAUSTS" will reaccur via "The thick headed resistence" driven by their weak thinking blind & "INFERIOR" Heuristicals Parents, selves & friends, with such unbending ignorance, who will all, as mentione through out Cyber World, that BEHOLD: "They will have a POOF-TIME as fateful as their {Abrahamics & Vedics} own Heuristical evolution.

UNITED WE STAND, but always United WE FALL! Just improve the Eclati Photon mist for a brighter fullfillment in ALL TOGETHER NOW! Halaluya "Brethrens"!

Att: Genuine F R A N K (instein) Collins, but one Intelligence, and having "insight & Pattern Recognition "POWER(s)" indeed you have demonstated you "Ecalti-on might" via your
"right-on" heuristic perceptions. And this includes G.a.b.y. & CANDID & Et al here too!

"G-d Consents, But only for a TIME"

"Shiloh" is O.U.R.(s) wa a SALAAM!

Brother(s) Sister(s) Come ONE come ALL dear E.C.L.A.T.A.R.I.O.N.S., here on Space-Ship Momma Poppa Earth, including OUR Sister Moon , Brother Mars, includes Other Creature Planet & Beyond, via each of our Unique relashionship or freqency PHOTON CHANNEL, that can not ever die, in simply JUST to be AWARE IN THEIR ECLAT"i" & Warmth generation via OUR(s) ECLATi-on Family in and of ONE that is ITSELF as Eternity Avoiding lonliness in TEMPERATURE, as MIRACLE and this is why we appear , on this One planet out of 144 Phton Life Experiences, this is why we APPEAR NOW!

ECLAT's GONNA GET YA! Ya Ya, Yoooooouuuu Wiillll Seeee!

Please; Throw Down your Koranic Biblical Un G-dly Weapons of ancient, not modern, Mass destruction, before It will be to late.

When the desease try's to contaminate us, We always Counter attack at the heart of the Culprit.

Vote: For One-Univers-Religion-system! Notice the SINGULARITY. Therefore:

Vote for: O.U.R.(s) via "ECLATi-Party" in Gridarian Democracy via OUR Int'l. Vootary Exchange plus Faith Exchange in the U.N. coming soon!

I SALUTE & Thank ALL OURs HUMATE & May Ecalt preserve & Protect IT's Eclati-On's & Beyond.

ATT: F R A N K COllins, et al at 8:28PM May10;

Greetings Cyber mon, America & Pals here and Beyond;

responding to your kite to mr. BLOOMINg deserts & his coconspiritor Mr WRIGHT [wrong mons ] Regarding their own Historic accountings herein this blog(s) et al: Therefore ;

Your "Barbarisim Islamic oddessey Encounters" of the Mohammadian(s) kind is beautiful & Highly "Enlightening nor just a "Brightment."

ECLATi-On(s) with Mormons is the "NEW CRUSADE" a/k/a the "NEW-SONG" with Peace-Love-Rock and Roll and the END OF NATIONAL/ISLAMIC JEALOUSY(s), which is tanta,oumt to SATAN being Exposed!

Note: FRANK; According to Eclati-on "Melechizedek Peace Blessing(s) of recent (1969), that annulled their Old KORANIC storys show yhe world how these, War Fairing Folk above [Quasi Animals and not Eclati-on] are a genuine display of their Satanic [jealous Nature & hot Blood] have become forgetfull and "Shiloh" is now making them "TALK-IN-TONGUES."

Frank; WE gave them Religion, via Abrahamic Song, They changed the Tune & they realy think every body's gonna buy their Unholy Music, via the NON-GREAT ZERO KORAN et seq.

frank: They stole OUR religion and that is an Eclati0On Capital offense, because they desecrated "THE-MESSAGE" and not how they desecrated their Prophet Mahammad's teacing for their selfisness and not ALLAH or Al HAQ!!

The fight is to take or lobotomize & wrestle ISLAM away from them.

note: The National Gun association says, "No it aint Guns that kill people , it is "Wraped-Minds" & Zero Heuristic Power(s) or some wrong IDEALOGY believing as if a Philosophy ) it's People who do the kill(s).. AND;

GUNS, Out-live their so called Photon Finite Heuristical mist counterparts & their SATANIC Conspirators even after they or WE go POOF-TIME, because some body(s) provoked History or try to twist IT (g-d) in Their Favor!

In other words, ISLAM, I think KARL MARK had apoint saying, "religion (ISLAM) is Opium [Hashish/Marajuana] of the people.." [Similar].

Frank: there is a movie comming Out about how the KABBA , in Mecca & the Saudi Governmental building in RHIYAD et al , get blown-up 911 style.

Frank: I can't wait for that movie to come out, but I hope they get IT [Eclati knowledge not Islam] SO;

Frank; This might be the right prophecy fullfilment for Mr. Islamic Wrong who claims to be Mr. finatic "Wright", not to mention how they are born with, with 1000, Arabian Days & Nights, faces of Satanic frequency "innate Psychotic imbalance(s)" behaviours that need a great CORRECTION OF SIN(s) fullfilment for them Caterpillar Abrahamic & Vedic, Who try to be and act like buterfly's instead of Knowing ECALT [LORD-G-D!] as you so Scholarly & pain stakingally ,stated for OURs historically accounting above.

I Love "Diplomatic History" But I Hate those who want to Live IT in their "Mens Rea" and out of their Actus Rus's. Ya Ya Cyber Bro & All & Sistro's!

HIT em with "truth" Frank. Hit em hard in their Heuristics, do not waver nor stop frank, just do not make them Western Hating jealous Islamic folk's go POOF-TIME yet.

They know if they flout the GLORIAS ECLAT"i", that resides in their unique innate Baptismal Holy Cosmic selves, that G-d Lord Unjealous Fearless Holy NO MON is gonna Always getem and Win.

TIME is the Best Medicine. BEHOLD! "SHILOH" is Home! HARK: The signs are ALL around you. <?: + )/ Ya Ya Bluudds Cluuuds.

G-d Bless America & Friends with Extra Photons for extra & faster Heuristic {frontal Lobes} GROWTH, with ECALTi-On's & Beyond for other creature(s) as O.U.R.s ONE Eclat, not Mohammad, Jesus, Moses, Vishna, Krishna, Budha et al! WHOA!

And Jews were Semites not blue-eyed blonde aryans masquerading around as semites. Blue-eyed blonde russians, and other eastern europeans, are semitic?? Native indians from Manipur are semitic jews?? and get this:
According to a July 19 2002 Israeli Ha'aretz article reports that last May(2001), Chief Rabbi Israel Meir Lau sent a group of rabbis to Peru for the purpose of converting to Judaism a group of impoverished descendents of the Incas. In two weeks the rabbis convinced some 90 Peruvians to convert to Judaism and as pioneers of Zion settle on Palestinian territory.

Where as Palestinians, who were once jewish, and converted to Christianity or Islam, have no right to their own land.

Must hand it to Zionists! Wow...Invoke anti-semitism ad nauseum,at every step of the way, while subjugating and perpetrating a slow-genocide against the actual semites of the Palestine.

No worries though, as American Empire has started to crumble right before our eyes, the white majority, will surely figure out what brought their down-fall, and that my Zionist friends, would be the end of Eretz Israel!

quit lying - jesus was a jew not a pal. there were no pals then.

Jacob JOZEVZ et al:
Jesus Christ was a Palestinian :)

the leaders of the pals have plenty of money, let them spend it on food and medicine and not on weapons. and islamic terrorists like the pals, who invented the intafada, do not get to demand that the rest of the world support their terror.

To the haters of judeo-christian empire:
Look, we have already destroyed Iraq which we planned to do back in the 70s. Now we shall move on to Iran. Saudis, Jordanian, and Egyptian dicattorships survive on US protection for the most part, but once we are finished with Iran, we'll take care of these countries too. Our goal is to destroy the arab/muslim world into tiny factions killing each other, so we can control their resources, and steal more land, as noted by Israel Shahk:

1. The idea that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units, occurs again and again in Israeli strategic thinking. For example, Ze'ev Schiff, the military correspondent of Ha'aretz (and probably the most knowledgeable in Israel, on this topic) writes about the "best" that can happen for Israeli interests in Iraq: "The dissolution of Iraq into a Shi'ite state, a Sunni state and the separation of the Kurdish part" (Ha'aretz 6/2/1982). Actually, this aspect of the plan is very old.

2. The strong connection with Neo-Conservative thought in the USA is very prominent, especially in the author's notes. But, while lip service is paid to the idea of the "defense of the West" from Soviet power, the real aim of the author, and of the present Israeli establishment is clear: To make an Imperial Israel into a world power. In other words, the aim of Sharon is to deceive the Americans after he has deceived all the rest.

3. It is obvious that much of the relevant data, both in the notes and in the text, is garbled or omitted, such as the financial help of the U.S. to Israel. Much of it is pure fantasy. But, the plan is not to be regarded as not influential, or as not capable of realization for a short time. The plan follows faithfully the geopolitical ideas current in Germany of 1890-1933, which were swallowed whole by Hitler and the Nazi movement, and determined their aims for East Europe. Those aims, especially the division of the existing states, were carried out in 1939-1941, and only an alliance on the global scale prevented their consolidation for a period of time.

The notes by the author follow the text. To avoid confusion, I did not add any notes of my own, but have put the substance of them into this foreword and the conclusion at the end. I have, however, emphasized some portions of the text.

Israel Shahak
June 13, 1982

Vote: O.U.R.S.! Vote in the U.N. for "GRIDARIAN DEMOCRACY via "The Great FAITH-EXCHANGE" debate in the U.N. assembly that will Create the ONE-HOLY or ONE-BIBLE, a/k/a OURs Book of OUR GENUINE or true, "Holy Cosmic Heart Beat(s)" that will be as ONE.

hence: Then and Only then will TRANSFINITY be realised by Each Innately blessed ECLATi-On and one will no longer be an Eclati-OFF, as so many are today.

Wherefore: O.U.R.S., a SINGULAR "New Song" as prophecied, will eventually usher-in a "... Healing of Nations... & WORLD-PEACE...No more Wars via the "MELCHIZEDEK PEACE BLESSING"." as verified, via "SHILOH" The PHOTON/LIGHT BRINGER, via the international & Mandatory [treated as if EMERGENCY needed]

Vote: One Universal Religion System!

One Space-Ship Momma Poppa Earth NOW.

One Sister Moon, One Brother mars, One Grandma-Sun of many DUE-TO-BE is you want to believe.

Trust the ECLATi in All One heuristics!

Throw down your ancient religion(s) of mass destruction that is in Fact, unfitt for current and future consumption! NO JOKE!

I know and found my True Eclat "i" in me my Me Me and "IT" (you in g-d as a thing via IT stuff as Miracle that never can die) knows ALL who can see IT or ITSELF via ones innate Heuristics which is the common Sense & inname Moral central Universe of the ITSELF in ALL.

Peace-Love-Rock-n-Roll!

P.S. Shiloh is the lost Islamic/christian/jewish "MAHDI" & is also manifest in the Hindu/Buddah "KRISHNA" via access from the lost JOKTAN People that have and are roaming the Earth Today & Beyond, here & in Other Worlds eternaly, avouding lonliness via ALL!

"IT" not a He nor a She has come and the Apocalypse is OURs Revelation to take seriously NOW or never as enjoyment & MANNA for one Heuristical enjoyment instead of Misery that has been enslaving HUMATE-KIND and prevents acreation of OURS as ONE HUMANITY DOCTRINE for ALL Posterity, not just you or I or US or WE or They et al NOW!

Wow! In "Shiloh" there is SHOLOM as in SALAM!

Every moderate Muslim, Christian and Jew should be rallying together with their Turkish and Pakistani brothers and sisters who reject fundamentalist Islam. They see the genocide, oppression, and deprival of basic human rights that comes along with such a regime. A worldwide rally showing their support will unite people against this clash of civilizations.

Att: Blooming Desert ?, et al;

Can you explain how "the Great CEDAR Forests or pine trees, of the fertile cresent (Lebonon, Jordon, W. Bank Israel minor, etc.) DISAPPEAR to?

Are you going to say that Israeli's destroyed such a precious commodity or made extinct such trees or plants that used to flourish around rhere, and was one way to prevent Mountain Land Corosion?

The Cedars of the "mascot" of the Lebonon Flag is a good place to look at. note: Israel planted more Trees & Plants then ANY ARAB combined!

Sholom and go smell some pines or plant some cones. Wa Sallam & Shiloh with Sholom.

Praise the Lord G-d Holy No Mon the great ECLATi in me my Me Me in and of ALL, known & unknown things and Miracle stuff!

"G-D helps those who helps themeselves bub" Ya Ya.

Remenber, Cyber Cat, "ISRAEL" [3500 tears +/-] gave you ABRAHAMIC "R.E.L.I.G.I.O.N." and Mohammad re-packaged IT, as if truly & exclusively their's [Bedouins now Islamist or Ex-IDOL Worshippers].

This Act that Mohammad is Tantamount to the Crime "THEFT-OF-OURs-Abrahamic (PELEG line not Joktan blood) RELIGION"! Not to mention whitewashing and desecrating the authenticity & veracity of the cause & effect behind the hypocracy!

Wherefore: ALL of ISLAM, needs tro pay Each ISRAELI (includes me) 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.... U.S. Dollars, not Shekils!

"THEFT of Religion" is a serious crime! Note: Kabba was always a Center of PAGAN worship. Now you want, and sort of have, Al Aqsa Mosque in JERSUSALEM.

So does that mean wherever an Islamist has been or especiall layed down his/her Hat or Kuffi, that you are by ALLAH entitled to such Land or place grabbing or destroying such?!

Yes, Theft & defamation of Religion, under what ever excuse, is a crime! not Just when MOSES was an "Escaped convict" under his "step fathers" Rule!?

Let us hear what you now have to rebuttle herein and thereof as "SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH for All the World now to grasp & heuristicaly see of which you are Blind still & most likely, will remain such state untill your Natural experation Death or Suicide!

ECLAT is LORD. Bow down or you will be left behind in human progress. Then you will get Jealous [covet what someone else has] and will want to take what WE built, not you, away from ITS INHERETERS of that Eclati Land, America too!

Wow what a weak case!

And that is something YOU ALl KNOW but will not nor can [for your selfish & Hot Blooded reasons) .

Note: WE Eclati-On's now have had evidence that when JESUS turned over a few of the "Arab Merchant's Tables, to bring home in your heads his point, that your Arab merchants paid, Pagan, Roman folk via Proxy Jews, to MUSRDER JESUS.

Important FACT: The;

15 (fifteen Pieces) out of Judah's, (the Character who sold Jesus) "30 pieces" CAME from the ARAB merchant's because, not because he had a slight temper and over turned their wears or goods, but that the "Pagan Priests" (not just Rabbi's) wanted himto stay away because Jesus was putting the squeeze on alot folk whom could not handle a truer or Better or NEW Philosophy or Song coming from their Ung-dly Old Songs. Whoa!

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"Why would any country want to strengthen these people, and how could doing so help the Palestinian cause, let alone the quest for peace?"
That is the ending question, of MR Paul Singer.
The question that I and every humanitarian organization,decent person even decent Isreali is asking and had been asking is:" How long the world can be silent about the Palestinian oppression, genocide, deprival of their basic human rights in every aspect of life, and occupation?"

While the Judeo-Christian values preserve the sanctity of LIFE, the opposite can be said of the jihadist. Even non-jihadist riot in France burning thousands of cars because they don't like the outcome of the French election, burn buildings and cars in the Netherlands and across Europe because they don't like what they see through freedom of speech, and mothers who revel in their child becoming suicide bombers. Even among their community, honor killings are an accepted custom, killing in the name of jihad is legtimized by their authority - bombing internet cafes, killings couples who hold hands because it is deemed too pro West. Utnil this community repects LIFE before DEATH, there will be a clash of civilizations that persists, until sadly one is defeated.

According to the above posts its an amazement that there aren't more jews killing than Muslims, when in actually the opposite is true.

Here's another reason why we enjoy killing Palestinians:

According to the Halakhah, the duty to save the life of a fellow Jew is paramount.14 It supersedes all other religious obligations and interdictions, excepting only the prohibitions against the three most heinous sins of adultery (including incest), murder and idolatry.

As for Gentiles, the basic talmudic principle is that their lives must not be saved, although it is also forbidden to murder them outright. 15 The Talmud itself expresses this in the maxim 'Gentiles are neither to be lifted [out of a well] nor hauled down [into it]'. Maimonides16 explains:

"As for Gentiles with whom we are not at war ... their death must not be caused, but it is forbidden to save them if they are at the point of death; if, for example, one of them is seen falling into the sea, he should not be rescued, for it is written: 'neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy fellow'17 - but [a Gentile] is not thy fellow."

In particular, a Jewish doctor must not treat a Gentile patient. Maimonides - himself an illustrious physician - is quite explicit on this; in another passage18 he repeats the distinction between 'thy fellow' and a Gentile, and concludes: 'and from this learn ye, that it is forbidden to heal a Gentile even for payment...'

However, the refusal of a Jew - particularly a Jewish doctor - to save the life of a Gentile may, if it becomes known, antagonize powerful Gentiles and so put Jews in danger. Where such danger exists, the obligation to avert it supersedes the ban on helping the Gentile. Thus Maimonides continues: ' ... but if you fear him or his hostility, cure him for payment, though you are forbidden to do so without payment.' In fact, Maimonides himself was Saladin's personal physician. His insistence on demanding payment - presumably in order to make sure that the act is not one of human charity but an unavoidable duty - is however not absolute. For in another passage he allows Gentile whose hostility is feared to be treated 'even gratis, if it is unavoidable'.

The whole doctrine - the ban on saving a Gentile's life or healing him, and the suspension of this ban in cases where there is fear of hostility - is repeated (virtually verbatim) by other major authorities, including the 14th century Arba'ah Turirn and Karo's Beyt Yosef and Shulhan 'Arukh.19 Beyt Yosef adds, quoting Maimonides: 'And it is permissible to try out a drug on a heathen, if this serves a purpose'; and this is repeated also by the famous R. Moses Isserles.

The consensus of halakhic authorities is that the term 'Gentiles' in the above doctrine refers to all non-Jews. A lone voice of dissent is that of R. Moses Rivkes, author of a minor commentary on the Shulhan Arukh, who writes.20

Our sages only said this about heathens, who in their day worshipped idols and did not believe in the Jewish Exodus from Egypt or in the creation of the world ex nihilo. But the Gentiles in whose [protective] shade we, the people of Israel, are exiled and among whom we are scattered do believe in the creation of the world ex nihilo and in the Exodus and in several principles of our own religion and they pray to the Creator of heaven and earth ... Not only is there no interdiction against helping them, but we are even obliged to pray for their safety.

This passage, dating from the second half of the 17th century, is a favorite quote of apologetic scholars.21 Actually, it does not go nearly as far as the apologetics pretend, for it advocates removing the ban on saving a Gentile's life, rather than making it mandatory as in the case of a Jew; and even this liberality extends only to Christians and Muslims but not the majority of human beings. Rather, what it does show is that there was a way in which the harsh doctrine of the Halakhah could have been progressively liberalized. But as a matter of fact the majority of later halakhic authorities, far from extending Rivkes' leniency to other human groups, have rejected it altogether.

ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH religion, the murder of a Jew is a capital offense and one of the three most heinous sins (the other two being idolatry and adultery). Jewish religious courts and secular authorities are commanded to punish, even beyond the limits of the ordinary administration of justice, anyone guilty of murdering a Jew. A Jew who indirectly causes the death of another Jew is, however, only guilty of what talmudic law calls a sin against the 'laws of Heaven', to be punished by God rather than by man.

When the victim is a Gentile, the position is quite different. A Jew who murders a Gentile is guilty only of a sin against the laws of Heaven, not punishable by a court.1 To cause indirectly the death of a Gentile is no sin at all.2

Thus, one of the two most important commentators on the Shulhan Arukh explains that when it comes to a Gentile, 'one must not lift one's hand to harm him, but one may harm him indirectly, for instance by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice .., there is no prohibition here, because it was not done directly:3 He points out, however, that an act leading indirectly to a Gentile's death is forbidden if it may cause the spread of hostility towards Jews.4

A Gentile murderer who happens to be under Jewish jurisdiction must be executed whether the victim was Jewish or not. However, if the victim was Gentile and the murderer converts to Judaism, he is not punished.5

To the haters of judeo-christian empire:
Do you know why Cardinal Bernard Law is living the high-life in Rome while he was the patron saint of the pedophile priests in US? Because we, the judeo-christians, believe based in our holy books, which command us to practice pedophilia.
Learn to read English. I would quote in Hebrew, but if you can't read English, then you certainly can't read Hebrew. So once again read the Talmudic commands on pedophilia practice in Judeo-christian life:
MISHNAH. WHEN A GROWN-UP MAN (7) HAS HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH (8) A LITTLE GIRL, (9) OR WHEN A SMALL BOY (10) HAS INTERCOURSE WITH A GROWN-UP WOMAN, OR [WHEN A GIRL WAS ACCIDENTALLY] INJURED BY A PIECE OF WOOD (11) — [IN ALL THESE CASES] THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED [ZUZ] …

Talmud Allows Sex with girls as young as 3 years old:

Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Kethuboth 11a
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 54:

MISHNAH. A WOMAN PROSELYTE, A WOMAN CAPTIVE, AND A WOMAN SLAVE, WHO HAVE BEEN REDEEMED, CONVERTED, OR FREED [WHEN THEY WERE] LESS THAN THREE YEARS AND ONE DAY OLD — THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED [ZUZ]. AND THERE IS WITH REGARD TO THEM THE CLAIM OF [NON-]VIRGINITY. (17)

I suggest you dont quote from the Torah and pretend to know what you are talking about. Clearly judiasm forbids pedophilia - for you to suggest otherwise shows your hatred for jews.

Ok, so I don't know how I can convince you haters of judeo-christian civilzation. I spit in your face. As I said before, the best part of old and new testament is that it allows pedophilia. Remember, we don't need to go Thailand for enjoy pedophilia. Pedophilia is legit under Jewish law. Talmud provides for sex with girls as young as 3 years old, so lets get rid of Islam, and follow Talmud:

MISHNAH. WHEN A GROWN-UP MAN (7) HAS HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH (8) A LITTLE GIRL, (9) OR WHEN A SMALL BOY (10) HAS INTERCOURSE WITH A GROWN-UP WOMAN, OR [WHEN A GIRL WAS ACCIDENTALLY] INJURED BY A PIECE OF WOOD (11) — [IN ALL THESE CASES] THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED [ZUZ] …

Talmud Allows Sex with girls as young as 3 years old:

Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Kethuboth 11a
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 54:

MISHNAH. A WOMAN PROSELYTE, A WOMAN CAPTIVE, AND A WOMAN SLAVE, WHO HAVE BEEN REDEEMED, CONVERTED, OR FREED [WHEN THEY WERE] LESS THAN THREE YEARS AND ONE DAY OLD — THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED [ZUZ]. AND THERE IS WITH REGARD TO THEM THE CLAIM OF [NON-]VIRGINITY. (17)

The above it to Blooming Desert

I suggest you stop using your cell phone, computer, instant messaging systems. Oh and please don't get sick for fear you might use one of the many scientific discoveries that will help save your life or atleast improve the quality of it. While those who lived in the desert before the Israelis arrived didn't use much, they didn't create very much for society either. I'm not sure where you get your info, but the lies and distortions you have made are not accurate. Water is an issue in all parts of the world, including much of the US. Israel, however, is one of the only places who is actually trying to do something about it by creating and using desalinization plants. The "evil jew" theory is propaganda and not truth.

The question is why? Why would the God of Abraham, Isaac, Moses, and Jesus, need a child rapist to violate every principal that had been given to the Jews and Christians over the last 3,000 years?
Why would God, who spent more than 2,500 years grooming the Jews, saving them from slavery at the hands of Egyptians, taking them to freedom, defeating every enemy they had, and then fulfilling the long disclosed prophesy of a Messiah, [ok the Jews don't believe that part] create a religion that hated the very people God protected? Why would God, who gave the world Jesus, who told the world that the most important commandment after the love of God, and then tell us that loving thy neighbor as thyself was the next most important commandment, now needed to be replaced by the concept of hate, torture, kidnaping, ransoms, murder and forced conversions? And why would that same God, who now had Jews and Christians doing well, need another religion to hate them and seek to murder them?
The answer is - God did not need to do it and God did not do it!
mohamad's first lie was his assertion that he was a decedent of Abraham through Ishmael, the bastard son of Abraham and his wife's maid, Hagar. Other than moho saying it, there is not one shred of proof that it is correct. Nothing at all. While the Jews can trace their own history, and there is no doubt that Jesus was a Jew, and went through all of the required rituals of Judaism, there is nothing to help with the lie of moho, re Ishmael, for which no proof exists.
And after Jesus what the world really needed was a child rapist named moho - and yes having sex with a 9 year old is rape, to father another religion. No one that young has any capacity to consent to sex, they would not even know what they were allegedly consenting to. And then there are the lessons of moho. This alleged god commanded islamics to hate every Jew or Christian or Hindu [who did not even know of islam when they first declared war on the others] do not associate with them, do not be friends with them, do not work with them, but to take them prisoners, hold them for ransom, sell them into slavery, torture them, cut off their body parts, and if they don't join your religion, well just kill them. Why in the hell would any God, after the coming of the Prince of Peace, decide that a constant state of war - islam has been at war with the rest of the world for 1400 year, and hate and murder, was the way to go?
The answer is - NO GOD, but the DEVIL sure loves it.
What group of people has provided more fodder for hell than islam and those that follow it. And they do it so well too. If people tell them that forced conversions are wrong, millions march in the street for what they say is their god given right to murder to increase their numbers, and demand death for anyone who says they can't kill you if you will not convert.
And they hate their children too. Even now they use characters like Mickey Mouse to teach little children that strapping bombs onto themselves and blowing up other children, just because they are Jewish, is what the islamic god wants them to do.
So let me be plain. islam is not a religion it's a cult. moho is not a prophet, he is a child raping terrorist, that pretended he had a religion to contradict real religious beauty, and which then and now has as its only goal, conquest and slavery. And in 1400 years it never did anything else. Its time to put an end to islam, and to quit pretending its anything but a terrorist organization bent on conquest. Its time the world took what ever action was needed to put a final stop to islam and its cult of death.

The Jews made Israel flourish. Before, it was just a desert.
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Israeli attempts to divert water from the Jordan-Yarmouk river basin into the Negev were a key source of the 1967 war. Since seizing the West Bank in 1967, Israel has illegally exploited the Mountain Aquifer and Jordan river basin. The Golan Heights, which Israel still refuses to give back to Syria, are also water rich. Today, Israel uses 79% of the Mountain Aquifer and all of the Jordan River Basin -- bar a small quantity that it sells to Palestinians in Gaza. Israelis get 350 litres of water per person per day, Palestinians get just 70 litres. The minimal quantity of water recommended by the World Health Organisation is 100 litres. When supplies run low during the summer months, the Israeli water company, Mekorot, simply shuts off the valves that supply Palestinian towns. This means settlers get their swimming pools topped up while Palestinian villages a few miles away run out of drinking water. To make matters worse, settlers dump untreated sewage on Palestinian land, polluting wells and aquifers.The Israeli army has also routinely destroyed water supplies, an activity defined as a war crime. Although Oslo peace process tried to institutionalise Israel's theft of Palestinian water, and its discriminatory allocation system by transferring responsibility (for water supplies) to the Palestinian Authority. However, Israel continues to maintain almost total control over water in the occupied territories. Every new project, from drilling a well to laying pipes or building a reservoir, requires Israel's consent.Israel has no legal right to the water and it's not using it sustainably. Over-extraction from the Jordan river is the main reason the river flow has dropped nearly 90 per cent in the last 50 years. It is now just a small stream, too small to replenish the Dead Sea, which is also fast disappearing. Many hydrologists predict that it won't exist in 50 years. So how will the population of Israel and Palestine -- predicted to double in 25 years -- survive?
Israel likes to boast about how it made the desert bloom, how the original inhabitants of Palestine were "wasting" the land. But far from wasting the land, the Arabs lived within its constraints, in harmony with it. By making parts of its desert bloom, Israel has simply turned parts of Arab land into desert, unable to provide its inhabitants with water, the most fundamental pre-requisite for human life.

OK, Hamas adopts terrorism ways but then are the ways of Israel peaceful? What claims does Israel have on Palestine except for the fact that it has forcefully and with support from the US (as expected) occupied their land and is denying their rights as a free country? Just count the number of deads on both sides of the fence and the world would know whom to brand as "terrorists".

Whom are we trying to fool? ... Let us shun this HYPOCRISY and give peace a chance in Palestine and Israel as well.

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It is a couplet in language of urdu that means"i have seen the starnge thing on the occasion of the day of sacrifice that the person who kills a lamb gets reward from the god".This couplet is set truelly on the policy of israel against the people of paletine.Israel captured the land of the people,seized their property,turn the life of people of palestine into hell by bobming and destroying the homes and hospital,killing the innocent people in the name of violence,turning the whole paletine into a concentration camp by erecting so many hurdles . And when people of palestine ask the justice from the world community then they are called terrorist.if making own land free from the occupation from the foreighn hand then what you will call the Greatest war of the world -The American war of independence led by a couragious person georg washington?.Was there no violence and battles in which people of american lost their life?.The talking of peace will not bring peace in the world.but we have to see why people choose to use violance as a means to achieve their goal?.In term of Hamas case the real point of struggle is that one community got the state from coming from outside and other community remain statless which was in habitating the same land.
In law of military power the statement does not matter if that have not capacity to make true that statment.if hundred times Hamas declared that their aim is to destroy Israel but in real politics that is nothing but a foolish utterance.Here the question is hamas has such capacity ? if Hamas has not capacity then that statment cannot be valid and cannot be used as hurdle to stop the process of peace keeping.But here the poliy of Israel is to creat hurdle by detracting the opinion of the world community without accepting the real point of fight.if Israel is so much concerned with terrorist then ask why this singned oslo agreement with al-fatah of yasir Arafat while with the same Arafat it fought many worse tussle.other hand the strategy of Israel is to not give any thing but get every thing return from recognisation of iSrael to having diplomatic relation with arab world till it would be in position to craet graeter Israel.In my opinion no Israeli leader can denounce the dream of graeter Israeli.
The use of micky mouse to popularise the idea of jihad is surley a condemnable act of Hamash vcause that is real insult to art lover.but i we see then we will find that every nation try to creat feeling of unity and a dream of future life with pride by selecting such popular thing which accepted by the people.In that case Hamas use the micky mouse.If israel doesnot believe in that law of inspiration then ask why israeli realive the Hebrew language in 20th century when english and other language can fulfill the desire of israeli?
The need of time is not to bycott Hamas but to bring Hamas in contact of world which forced the Hamas to make farewell to arm.In my opinion the policy of isolation will not work but the policy of friendship work.bcause we are dealing with a community which fighting with violence and force for decades .
so ,let have a different cource from chalked course of israel for Hamas.And that different is to bring Hamas near to world community.

Now if you still haven't jumped on the Israeli, bandwagon, here's the best part. Pedophilia is legit under Jewish law. Talmud provides for sex with girls as young as 3 years old:

MISHNAH. WHEN A GROWN-UP MAN (7) HAS HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH (8) A LITTLE GIRL, (9) OR WHEN A SMALL BOY (10) HAS INTERCOURSE WITH A GROWN-UP WOMAN, OR [WHEN A GIRL WAS ACCIDENTALLY] INJURED BY A PIECE OF WOOD (11) — [IN ALL THESE CASES] THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED [ZUZ] …

Talmud Allows Sex with girls as young as 3 years old:

Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Kethuboth 11a
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 54:

MISHNAH. A WOMAN PROSELYTE, A WOMAN CAPTIVE, AND A WOMAN SLAVE, WHO HAVE BEEN REDEEMED, CONVERTED, OR FREED [WHEN THEY WERE] LESS THAN THREE YEARS AND ONE DAY OLD — THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED [ZUZ]. AND THERE IS WITH REGARD TO THEM THE CLAIM OF [NON-]VIRGINITY. (17)

well i want to thank those who like using my name, but your thoughts are your own and im not impressed.

Israeli founding fathers on Occupation of Palestine:

"It's not a matter of maintaining the status quo. We have to create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion." --Ben Gurion

"Take the American declaration of Independence. It contains no mention of territorial limits. We are not obliged to fix the limits of the State." -- Moshe Dayan, "Jerusalem Post" 08/10/1967

"Every school child knows that there is no such thing in history as a final arrangement -- not with regard to the regime, not with regard to borders, and not with regard to international agreements." -- Ben Gurion, War Diaries, 12/03/1947 following Israel's "acceptance" of the U.N. Partition of 11/29/1947
(Simha Flapan, "Birth of Israel," p.13)

"In strategic terms, the settlements (in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza) are of no importance."
What makes them important, he added, was that "they constitute an obstacle, an unsurmountable obstacle to the establishment of an independent Arab State west of the river Jordan." --Binyamin Begin, (son of the late Menahem Begin and a prominent voice in the Likud party writing in 1991,
Quoted on page 159 of Findley's Deliberate Deceptions)

"Without them [the settlements] the IDF [Israeli Defense Force] would be a foreign army ruling
a foreign population." -- Defense Minister Moshe Dayan (quoted in Geoffrey Aronson's Settlements
and the Israeli-Palestinian Negotiations, Institute for Palestinian Studies.)

Moshe Dayan:
"the settlements established in the territories are there forever, and the future frontiers will include these settlements as part of Israel." Dayan also stated that he "preferred Sharm el-Sheikh without peace to a peace without Sharm el-Sheikh". "From the point of view of the security of the state, the establishment of the settlements has no great importance.". Dayan's statements all quoted in Chomsky's "The Fateful Triangle" pp. 104-5. "Our fathers had reached the frontiers recognized in the partition plan; the Six-Day War generation has managed to reach Suez, Jordan, and the Golan Heights. This is not the end. After the present cease-fire lines, there will be new ones. They will extend beyond Jordan ... to Lebanon and ... to central Syria as well." -- Moshe Dayan to Zionist youth at a meeting in the Golan Heights July, 1968

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these
Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books
not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the
place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushu'a in the place of Tal al-Shuman.
There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." --
Moshe Dayan, addressing the Technion (Israel Institute of Technology), Haifa. Quoted in Ha'aretz, 04/04/1969

"The main difference between Bosnia and Palestine is that ethnic cleansing in the former took
place in the form of dramatic massacres and slaughters which caught the world's attention, whereas
in Palestine what is taking place is a drop-by-drop tactic in which one or two houses are demolished
daily, a few acres are taken here and there every day, a few people are forced to leave" --
Edward Said (Washington Report 09/1998)

"The human rights organization Amnesty International said in a report in December that Israel has
made about 16,700 Palestinians homeless by destroying at least 2,650 houses since 1987" --
From an AP report on home demolitions by Israel dated 04/23/2000.

"The demolition and sealing of houses are among the most severe methods of punishment used
by the authorities against Palestinians in the Occupied Territories. To our knowledge, this harsh form
of punishment is unique to Israel and is not employed by any other nation. Demolition and sealing
of houses in the territories contravene international law that prohibits collective punishment and
arbitrary injury to property." -- B'Tselem, an Israeli Human Rights Organization. ( http://www2.iol.co.il/btselem/)

"... we have no solution, that you shall continue to live like dogs, and whoever wants to can leave --
and we will see where this process leads? In five years we may have 200,000 less people --
and that is a matter of enorous importance." -- Moshe Dayan encouraging the transfer of Gaza strip
refugees to Jordan (from Noam Chomsky's Deterring Democracy, 1992, p.434, quoted in Nur Masalha's
A Land Without A People, 1997 p.92).

"It is an open secret that Israeli policy makers hoped for a massive emigration of Palestinians as a
result of economic and demographic pressure. Therefore, they also developed a clever system which
caused numerous Palestinians born here to lose their residency rights when they went to work or study
abroad." -- Amira Hass in 08/26/1998 Ha'aretz Op'Ed titled The Settlers are Not to Blame.

"I don't sign orders to destroy the houses of Jews, only of Arabs," --
Haim Miller, deputy mayor of Jerusalem and acting mayor in Olmert's absence, quoted
in Yediot Aharonot, Feb. 7, 1998.

"[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years conditions which would attract natural and
voluntary migration of the refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan. To achieve this
we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with Yasser Arafat." --
Yitzhak Rabin (a "Prince of Peace" by Clinton's standards), explaining his method of ethnically
cleansing the occupied land without stirring a world outcry.
(Quoted in David Shipler in the New York Times, 04/04/1983 citing Meir Cohen's remarks to the
Kenesset's foreign affairs and defense committee on March 16.)

"I know how at least 80% of all the incidents with Syria started. We were sending a tractor to the
demilitarized zone and we knew that the Syrians will shoot. If they did not shoot, we would instruct
the tractor to go deeper, till the Syrians finally got upset and start shooting. Then we employed
artillery, and later also the air-force... I did that... and Yitzhak Rabin did that, when he was there..." --
Moshe Dayan in a 05/1997 revelation

"Is this a way to occupy Hebron? A couple of artillery bombardments on Hebron and not a single
'Hebronite' would have remained there. Is this a way to occupy Jerusalem [without driving the Arabs out]?" --Yigal Allon, Labor deputy Prime minister of Israel chiding the IDF leadership. Cited on p.179 of Nur Masalha's A Land without a People who cites Shiloah Ashmat Yerushalayim pp. 53 and 281. Shiloah remarked that Allon's comment also applied to Nablus (p.54).

Israel is ours now...so who cares how we treat Palestinians. And to Americans: A conservative estimate puts your tax-dollar support for Israel at about $91 billions (as of 1998). So don't judge us because you are complicit in any "atrocity" we perpetrate against Palestinians!
"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

frank collins:
U repeat your pathetic BS every where because u are empty.

How lamentable that the romans forgot to thru u to the lions and save this forum for useful dialogue.

First, Jerusalem is in Palestine and it's occupied and amount of propaganda will change that fact.

Two,the queation should read read "Asking Nicely Won't end the occupation nor the Apartheid imposed by the racist state of israel upon the Palestinians?"

Mr. Singer,

Excellent analysis of the situation. Unfortunatley, I think that many countries think that if only they make happy with the terrorists that these murderers will not pick on them, and their citizens. Even many americans think the same way.They actually believe that if we just pack up our toys and leave the middle east that these psychos will be content with killing their own people over there. They will. For awhile. But then that great satan across the ocean will beckon to them once again. And they will not be able to resist the wide open killing fields.

Whe dealing when brutes one does not tuck their tail, and run. That only encourages them more. The psychology behind these killers is not any different than the school yard bullies. I used to watch as these school bullies would team up and demand anything and everything from the weaker kids, or those afraid to fight. They always got what they wanted from the weak ones. These terrorists are no different. They are demanding "lunch money", and some countries are paying it in the hopes of being left alone.

Its plain sick. Period. To be sitting down at a table with cold blooded terrorists and then to make concessions to them. And then to call it "diplomacy". How about Blackmail.

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Christianity & Judiaism teaches pedophile too - No wonder the entire Catholic Church is involved in it, and people like Bernard Law still roam around freely:

This one from Bible:
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

And this one is Talmudic:Tractate Bava Mesia, Atlanta: Scholars Press 1990, p.ix-x:
Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. And if a Levir has had intercourse with her, he has acquired her. And one can be liable on her account because of the law prohibiting intercourse with a married woman. And she imparts uncleanness to him who has intercourse with her when she is menstruating, to convey uncleanness to the lower as to the upper layer [of what lies beneath]. If she was married to a priest, she may eat food in the status of priestly rations. If one of those who are unfit for marriage with her had intercourse with her, he has rendered her unfit to marry into the priesthood. If any of those who are forbidden in the Torah to have intercourse with her had intercourse with her, he is put to death on her account, but she is free of responsibility [M.Nid. 5:4].
Sanhedrin 7/55B [132]

R. Nahman bar Isaac said. "They made the decree that a gentile child should be deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15], so that an Israelite child should not hang around with him and commit pederasty [as he does]."
For said R. Zira, "I had much anguish with R. Assi, and R. Assi with R. Yohanan, and R. Yohanan with R. Yannai, and R. Yannai with R. Nathan b. Amram, and R. Nathan b. Amram with Rabbi [on this matter]: 'From what age is a gentile child deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15]'? And he said to me, 'On the day on which he is born.' But when I came to R. Hiyya, he said to me, 'From the age of nine years and one day.' And when I came and laid the matter before Rabbi, he said to me, 'Discard my reply and adopt that of R. Hiyya, who declared, "From what age is a gentile child deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15]? From the age of nine years and one day."'
[37A] Since he is then suitable for having sexual relations, he also is deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [of Lev.15]."
Said Rabina, "Therefore a gentile girl who is three years and one day old, since she is then suitable to have sexual relations, also imparts uncleanness of the flux variety."
That is self-evident!
Abodah Zarah 36B-37A [133]

"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that has known a man by sleeping with him.(Num 31:17).
[This] refers to her who has slept with a man as well as her who is suitable for intercourse, even when she has not slept with a man...
But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves. From here R. Shimon b. Yohai used to say: a Proselyte girl who became a proselyte in the age of less than three years and one day, is rendered fit to marry into the priesthood." [137]

According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, Moses therefore had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day, because they were "suitable for having sexual relations."

While we talk, Arabs are pushed into ghettos, like the Jews were pushed into their ghett0s .... by the Nazis. Guess who did not learn the lesson?

God! So much hate coming from what appears to be Americans. Are we a country of ignorant bigots (Frank Collins) or just frustrated with our own shortcomings that we have to project our vitirol towards other nations? I especially find Frnak's sense of history disturbing...the Abrahamic Jews migrated from southern Iraq and took the lands of Canaan from the Semites who lived in the region. If there ever was a land of the Jews, it is in what is now present day Iraq!

I think the existance Israel is not the cause of the evil in the Middle East. It is just a sensor that shows that there is a civilization clash. I remember very well the times of the Cold War when Russia supported arabs (money, weapon) and USA supported Israel. It was just another conflict point in this war. Now when the Cold War is over (thanks God) Israel is an indicator of the conflict between civilized and non-civilized worlds. Globalization process can hardly be stopped. If not Israel, another reason for conflict would reveal itself. Most of the Arab countries do nothing or definetely not enough to get civilized. At the same time they demand the civilized and democratic attitude towards themselves. And of course it is envy that western oriented Israel surrounded by enemies could create a flourishing state in the desert in several years while at the same time with al the support of their arab brothers could do nothing in thousand years. (sorry if I made some grammar mistakes, I am from Russia -:))))

you deserve to be hated and when do they hold the parade for the police man and give him a medal. he can have one of mine, i have more than i need.
if it was an islamic killing a baby there would not have been a trial, they would have had a party with 10,000 sub human screaming islamics yelling for more jew dead, and using it as a recruiting forum for more children to die killing jews.
they have you because you deserve it.

By Neve Gordon - Ben Gurion Uni, Israel
Almost a year and a half has passed since our friend Samir Dari was gunned down by an Israeli policeman. Samir, an Israeli resident and father of two, approached a group of policemen who had just detained his brother on a street corner not far away from his house and demanded the latter's release. There are conflicting versions about how the events unfolded, but there is no dispute about the following facts: Samir was unarmed and the policeman Shmuel Yechezkel shot him from close range in the back.

The Israeli police were quick to disseminate a fallacious version of the incident which portrayed the killing as an act of self-defense. This is a typical and almost automatic police response, one which inverts the order between victim and aggressor. When an Arab is killed, he is said to have been violent; when he is beaten up, he is said to have struck the policeman first; when he is oppressed, he is the one who is guilty.

Also typical was the lack of public interest in Samir's death. The killing of an Arab is, after all, not the kind of event that makes headlines in Israel.

The non-violent protest which Samir's friends organized in response to the killing did, however, attract attention. Israeli Jews cannot easily digest angry Arabs in the streets, and many did not hesitate to openly threaten the protesters: "An immediate and forceful response is necessary"; "A missile attack on their village is needed," were some of the responses that appeared in the local newspaper.

But now, a year and a half later, it turns out that the Israeli legal system shares the public's perception, although the way it expresses itself is less strident.

Judge Noam Solburg recently acquitted the policeman Yechezkel. Ironically, in his verdict the judge states that Samir had not threatened Yechezkel, at no point was there physical contact between Samir and the policemen on the scene, and Samir was actually moving away from the policemen when he was shot in the back. "The accused made an awful and terrible mistake," the judge concludes, adding that "The deceased was killed for no reason."

The judge, nonetheless, exonerated Yechezkel because, in his opinion, it is not beyond probable doubt that the policeman felt he was acting in self-defense. Thus, when the "mistake" is killing an Arab, no one pays the price -- except, of course, the victim, his wife and children.

Judge Solburg's verdict sends a message to Samir's family and all Arab citizens of Israel: they should not expect justice and protection from the Israeli state. While the law's role is to protect citizens and the police's responsibility is to uphold the law, often these basic truths are ignored when it comes to Arabs. Since September 2000, thirty-four Arab citizens have been killed at the hands of the police, security guards and soldiers. Nonetheless, only four indictments have been issued, and only after a vigorous public campaign. Not one of these cases has resulted in a conviction.

And yet, at times, naiveté stubbornly tries to challenge political reality. When Samir was killed, we thought it was worth demanding justice. Initially, Samir's family refused to allow an autopsy. Only after considerable pressure from friends and lawyers, who argued that without concrete evidence the policeman would walk free, did the family agree, against their religious convictions, to permit the forensic procedure. The doctor's report was unequivocal: Samir had been shot in the back from short range.

Apparently, Judge Solburg has no patience for naiveté and ensured that political reality would win the day. He did not allow the autopsy results or, in his own words, "the objective dimension" of the case to alter his verdict and thus sent a very clear message to Arab citizens of Israel that evidence is not the most important criteria for determining guilt. It will, accordingly, be no surprise if the next victim's family refuses to consent to an autopsy.

The verdict also sends a clear message to the police: "don't worry." Israeli policemen can rest assured that everything will be done to cover up violence against Arabs. If internal affairs won't do the job, then a judge, who will acquit the policeman, can be found, even when the officer is guilty of shooting a man in cold blood.

Moreover, the verdict reinforces the idea among the Jewish public that not all blood is the same. Not that this should really surprise anyone. A year and a half ago, when Samir was killed, we wrote an article for the Israeli press that ended with the following lines:

"Samir is gone. We would like to hope that someone will be courageous enough to hold the person who shot him in the back accountable. We would like to believe that this incident will begin revealing the web of lies and racism that serves to perpetuate the circle of violence. We would like to know that Samir's children will be the last ones orphaned by the violence of the secret services, police and military. But no. We won't delude ourselves."
To our great sorrow, our pessimism has not been misplaced.

im pretty bored with it too - islamics always say the same thing and do something else. but the islamic cult must be addressed at every opportunity, just like skin heads and nazi's and the kkk. you cannot be allowed to utter one lie without people pointing out to the workd that it is a lie and that islamics are nothing but terrorists as long as they keep the koran as the rules they live by.
so burn with islamic hate as i tell the world that islam is not a religion, its a cult.
that 1400 years of islam attacking everyone not islamic is proof that all your cult wants is war.
that no messenger of any god can be that and rape little girls too. that is what moho is - a child rapist. he admitted having sex with a 9 year old and that is rape!
that moho lied about being in a line from abraham, via ishmael. its a lie and there is not one bit of proof that it happened. just moho saying it, nothing else.
that islam hates its children as much as it hates everyone else. who but islamics would take a cartoon character like michey mouse and turn it into a hate message to kill jews and create more murdering scum who think killing other children as a good thing.
and other than moho saying it no one actually believes that your fake god allah, has any connection at all with the god of the old and new testament. as if jesus would ever take a piece of dog crap like moho and tell him that what god really wants is a new religion that hates, tortures, kidnapp, ransom and murders those who will not join allah. you have to be nuts to think that people really believe it. the problem is they want to get you to quit your war like ways to spread islam and they are pretending to buy into that dung in the hope you will start acting like human beings. but it will not work, they just feed your hate and belief that you can force the rest of us to our knees before you.
you are close to starting your world war, a war that will eventually come and you will lose, becasue in the end you will have to come out of hiding, blowing up little children in ice cream parlors or putting bombs in holes and running away will not get what you want. you will have to come out into the light and actually face your mortality.
islam is not a religion, moho was not a prophet he was a child rapist, and you can all eat crap and die for all i care. the rest of the world has been nice enough for long enough. we hear you - you are the enemy.