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It seems to me that one key difference between the situation which led to Oslo and the popular 'legitimization' of Fatah was the reality that, at the time, there existed no alternative party with which negotiations could be held.

In 2007, however, Palestinians who swear allegiance to Hamas make a conscious choice; Hamas, in turn, essentially has an obligation to provide them with a different agenda than Fatah.

The reality that Fatah has, in many respects, come to be seen as the party of peace in contrast with Hamas as the party of war is historically ironic, but true.

Now, trying to turn Hamas into Fatah is not possible and will not result in a second Oslo; Hamas is not a political party in the Western sense. It is an Islamist party which, generally, rejects the notion of political processes as requisite for legitimacy; it uses them only to gain power.

This is not a two-party system, it is a choice between peace and war. Engaging the war-mongerers will not bring peace.

Why do PLO leaders not wish to live in peace?

Great!!! Mr.Moubayed... Is there any way to contact you??any email address?

WHY DOES ANYONE THINK THERE COULD EVER BE PEACEIN THE MIDDLE EAST?. BOTH THE ISRAELIS AND THE ARABS WILL CONTINUE FIGHTING TILL THY KINGDOM COME

(1) I found Mr. Moubayed's ideas thoughtful and provocative.

(2) The amount of vitriol in the posted comments is startling. Sorta like soccer fans bashing each other in the streets, while real players do their business inside the stadium.

Prior to the kidnapping of this Israeli solider what Israel wants ?

what where they doing? does our people were living in complete comfortable life and they refused such comfortable life, the massacre of this Palestinian family on the beach on Gaza who spoke about it? what did happen? what did the united nation do?

whenever the Palestinian people give some concessions Israel will demand more through it leadership, which forced the Palestinian people to choose Hamas and and Israel is forcing Palestinian to choose Resistance and there is no other choice.

their blood is red ours yellow, their freedom is precious and the thousands of our hostages and prisoners just rats. they Israels reach a level where the suffering become equal what ever the pressure and they become more and more innovative of their collective punishment, all of this making our Palestinian people more resilient and determined in their choice of Resistance as it is a matter of life or death only also because they reach the maximam degree of suffering and their is no more , therefore there is no option accept Resistance
look to what river we reached , River Jordan , Israel through its policies do not hide their intention of having the Arab water . our people in Jordan are dying of thirst, and what ever left in the River Jordan just the dirty and sewage water and they are begging the water from Israel and they are smiling in its faces to let them continue to stay alive. they are borrowing their water till it rains even this controlled by Israel and even if it had the ability it wont leave a cloud pass to reach Jordan in order to have rain and return its water which let them have.
please imaging to what level we reached god bless you

Assad has said not so long ago that without Syria there could be no peace in the ME. Not in Israel or Iraq...and it seems that he is bent on showing it off...this is not a Palis problem but a Syrian one and Palestinians are but paws in that confrontation...
I find it disgusting that it happens this way but for all I care I cannot condemn Israel for protecting itself against the evil of terrorism.
Cheers,
An Australian

Chances are better now, after Israels retreat from Gaza city, for such a one-week-dinner between Hamas and Olmert in that town ("Hey I am your neighbor, how are you?").

Both sides have no other chance.

"Power" is nothing.

lets not forget another layer/player: Syria's Mr. Assad and his support for the Qassam brigades who have insisted on torpedoing the "prisoners" agreement and lately any other peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

Syria is continuing to flaunt its terror copiously in Israel and Lebanon, the only two viable democracies in the middle east. If that were to stop we would really see an opportunity for peace.

Unfortunately it would be impossible for a Syrian journalist to point such important (p)layers out.

On what day will all sides choose pragmatism and wisdom. Where is the wisdom of Solomon? He would have married a Palestinian princess from the Hamas wing, and in all likelihood, the Fateh wing, honored them both with distinct mosques, and that would have been the end of that.

Let us not forget that the era of peace and a Greater Israel that some Ultra-Orthodox dream of returning to was made possible ONLY through intermarriage between Jews and what could best be described as quasi-pagan, pre-Arab tribes. Cultural identities are nourished by the experiences we have, the ideas to which we are exposed, and the conversations we have about ethics and relationship that are stimulated by those exposed ideas.

In all seriousness, our lives are precious. Our children's lives and their opportunities are precious. Human beings live on both sides of the geography and all sides of the conflict (Jewish, Muslim, Israeli, Palestinian). This conflict is less than religious; it is political. It never had to start but Grand Muftis of Jerusalem and early Arab leaders believed that this Jewish return to Israel was a pipe dream that could be crushed. They convinced others of this false religious duty to control land versus live in it. All of these so-called leaders were wrong. This was tribalistic politics.

Plainly, their idea of G-d has spoken. Instead of tearing apart the potential Israel, they could have welcomed it and negotiated for a brighter common society that attended to the practical realities of Jewish, Muslim, Druze, Christian, Samaritan, and other neighbors. They could have been building a profound Palestine next door with room for Jewish citizens of Palestine and Arab citizens of Israel. No one needed to lose a home and extremists should have been marginalized, but the leaders were the extremists. Should we not welcome our brothers and sisters home, particularly when they are vulnerable (The Holocaust)? Are both sides not commanded to welcome the stranger into their home/land? To welcome them wouldn't have meant to hand over the keys to your house, but could have meant owning land together.

However, so has the Jewish idea of G-d spoken. Palestinians are related by blood and geography. Israel cannot prosper, nay cannot flourish, without a vibrant Palestinian state next to it. Undermining the ability of even a terrorist/freedom fighting group like Hamas to juggle the reigns of government seems counterproductive. Let them find out what it means to care for the average person by creatig competent institutions without the excuse that the Israeli state is interfering or oppressing. Just let it be. Give them space.

Leadership is about difficult decisions. It is about survival and basic necessities at the outset. Then it is about imagination (Imagine Nations) without which we do not dream, we do not create, and then we do not truly live. The majority of the people on the ground simply wish to dream, therefore to truly live.

Israelis wish to go to a cafe or a dance club without risk of being blown up. In a country that depends on buses as a primary form of transportation, Israelis want to get on the bus without worrying whether or not the person sitting next to them is about to blow it up. Their economy is stunted if people's nerves are frayed on the way to work and on the way home. And this stress carries into every facet of relationship. Ultimately, it produces the military reality. It is really that simple.

Palestinians want a state with boundaries that allow its economy to function and its people to interact without having to cross through another country's, Israel's, checkpoints. It is emasculating to any sense of nationalism and unproductive to government function.

Calling for Israel's destruction is less than unrealistic, it's superbly and nearly sublimely ludicrous. It is juvenile and unrelated to spiritual capacity or political objective. Physically overwhelming an already stressed Palestinian populace with military strength is similarly a general waste of time, money, and common ground.

Neither state, neither people, neither culture can define itself by its opposition to the other. The negative of something is not the definition of anything; it reflects the absence of substance. States, peoples, and cultures must be defined in the positive through a sense of aspiration.

Personally, I love Israel. If I could spend part of each year there economically, I would, despite the conflict on the ground. It is the most beautiful culture in which I have ever participated and it is the only country in which I truly feel whole and at home. Frankly, I even generally feel safer there. I am an American as well and human beings are capable of these multiple identities and multiple fictions.

One day, I'm sure that I will live in Israel again and in peace. Some of that peace will have to happen one friendship at a time and the simplest method is breaking bread, a person-to-person peace. That is my ReciPeace.

It might take many years and a lot of good meals, but the citizens on both sides could make a huge difference in this conflict simply by creating an event that is nonconfrontational and that provides a context to see the humanity of the person across from you: it's called dinner.

We have dehumanized one another for too long and it's biting us both in the butt. Our dreams will remain in the ashes of our bitterness for as long as we seek not to recognize the vision of the other person.

Am I disturbed by bombs dropping on Ashkelon and soldiers inside Israel disappearing? Absolutely. Do I think it warrants a response? Absolutely. What kind? Well, first, what would bring the soldier home? Secondly, as my father always advised me when playing good poker, deal from strength. Strength does not equal force. I never hit the poker player across from me. I respond rather than react. For better or for worse, Israel remains the stronger nation-state. It is far wiser for Israel to respond with grace in the face of any difficulty. What will force Hamas to shut off the missile tap on Ashkelon? In the short term, the strategy that quiets the missiles and creates normalcy for average people is the wisest approach. In that relative quiet period, a real peace could be negotiated.

A military victory that embarrasses the Palestinians will be Pyrrhic. Similarly, military attacks on Israel are embarrassing to the possibility and honor of Palestine.

Imagine the economy and collaboration possible between an open Israel and Palestine. It could be a leading educational space. Of any two countries in the Middle East, their prospects together astound me. In conflict, they cut each other's throats. They cap potential, mostly bottle it. In cooperation, they could achieve more than equality but also a quality of life for the average person that would astound the United States and Europe. It's too bad we're playing into the all-too-human tendency of the Prisoner's Dilemma. It is an historical and hysterical psychosis, a plague upon both of our houses.

We are both Semites and have unfortuitously played into the divisive Anti-Semitism. Two minorities, long downtrodden, could rise above the fray. Instead, we spend time attempting to outflank and one-up another with the superficial result of killing each other's children and subjecting those left behind to varied forms of pyschological torture (raining missiles, suicide bombers, assassination attempts, razed houses and farms, dehumanizing inspections), an environment that nurtures what prospect of fortune? Why not spend our common time pushing back part of the desert?

Fortune is created by hard work meeting opportunity. Only if one is in motion can one advantage the opportunity one sees coming. In this conflict, every day then is an opportunity to break bread with somebody on the other side and to recognize simply their humanity with small acts of kindness. It is not complicated and it is not political. It is social.

In the end of my diatribe, I would mediate this conflict through dinner. I would make it difficult not to celebrate each other's cultures and impossible not to recognize each other's humanity and common aspirations. I would engage the other side with sincere compliments of what they do well and ask for what I want: a simple serenity.

Olmert:
Return the soldier and we will sit down for dinner for 7 nights and I will listen to your grievances and hopefully, you will hear mine. At the end of the 7 nights of dinner, I will release the children who are in prison upon their signature and yours that they will not be recruited for future military service. If you consent to another 30 nights of dinner in a row and of trying to understand one another's grievances, I will release the majority of women in prison as long as each affirms to Allah that she will not participate, sponsor, recruit, or fuel any future aspect of conflict, and you affirm as well that they will not be allowed to take part in any violence.

If anyone does not seek this serenity, please elucidate me. And if anyone wishes to have dinner, give me a call. Meanwhile, perpetual retaliation merely invests itself in the continuation of Middle East mediocrity. We will never be a light unto other nations if we cannot be a light unto ourselves.

"The Palestinian people elected Hamas because they were the party that was providing grasssroots schools and hospitals and because Fatah was seen as corrupt, etc."

Intitally, that appeared to be a very powerful rationale. But Hamas was more that a provider of schools and hospitals. To its credit, Hamas was very clear that it wanted the destruction of the state of Israel. It wanted to retake all of Israel for the Palestinians. Hamas has never settled for anything less than the removal of the Israeli state and its people from the Mideast. To its credit Hamas has never made any fictious distinction between its militant terrorist wing and those members of Hamas who "provide grassroots schools and hospitals." Hamas has one face and one voice and one overiding objective to destroy Israel. The Palestinian people knew all about Hamas when the Palestinian people provided Hamas with its majority. It should come as no surprise to the Palestinian people that many western nations would view the Hamas government as a democratically elected terrorist government and as a result withhold foreign donations.

On a related note, the so-called Prison Accord beween Fatah prisoners and Hamas prisoners talked about a return to 1967 borders as a condition for the establishment of a peaceful existence between Palestine (Gaza and West Bank) and Israel. The old land for peace trick. How is that going to work again? Israel gives up land in Gaza and withdraws to Israel, and the Palestinians launch rockets at Israeli civilains in Israel and tunnel into Israel to kill and kidnap soldiers and civilains. The land for peace ploy is exposed as the sham that it truly is. How about give us land so that we can move our guns and rockets closer to you to wipe you off the earth. The Palestinian people elected Hamas knowing full well and expecting and even encouraging Hamas to pull these stunts. Hamas are Palestinians. Hamas are terrorists. All Palestinians implicitly want the Israelis out of Israel. All Palestinians are terrorists.

"The Palestinian people knew exactly who it was electing and why." The Palestinian people elected Hamas because they were the party that was providing grassroots schools and hospitals, and because Fatah was seen as corrupt and overly influenced by the US (note the election campaign funding). Palestinian society is quite multifaceted and secular - assuming too much from Hamas' victory in the polls is dangerous. Taking Hamas as it is, and forcing them to play the game as a real government means that they would have had to address serious internal social concerns, leaving them less time for shelling the Israelis and forcing them to (slowly, yes) learn to conform to the rules of the rest of the world.

"The current invasion is just Ariel Sharon's old plan delayed."

Because the Israelis forced Hamas to fire 500 rockets into Israel and kidnap it's soldiers to implement their invasion plan. Hamas is clearly a part of the zionist conspiracy.

Ariel Sharon was not serious about withdrawing from Gaza. He assumed in the year preceding the withdrawal he would have a pretext for military action.
To everyone's surprise there was no pretext and with Condoleeza Rice's insistence the disengagement took place.
The current invasion is just Ariel Sharon's old plan delayed.

It took a too long a time, but I believe that the European Union and even some UN member states, during the final days of Arafat's terrorist reign, finally put down their rose-colored glasses and saw the true face of Arafat, the PLO and the Palestinian people. They saw not a face of peace and peaceful co-existence with Israel, but a face of hatred, a face forever fixed on the destruction of Israel.

The Palestinians elected the government it deserves and best represents its true objectives. The Hamas government is a terrorist government that only wants the destruction of Israel. The Palestinian people knew exactly who it was electing and why. The Hamas, the Palestinian authority and the Palestinian people deserve the consequences of freely electing a terrorist government whose sole national objective is the destruction of Israel. The Palestinian people has only itself to blame. When the Palestinian people vote out the Hamas Government and elect a government that truely wants to explicitly recognize Israel, stop terrorist and military activities against Israel and support previous agreements with Israel, then and only then should the international quartet of nations consider permitting the flow of foreign aid to help the Palestinain people and its government.

While it is true that Arafat was no saint and did have blood on his hands, I think it would be well worth our efforts to dispel this myth that Ms. Leibowitz has brought up; that is the myth that the peace offers made in 2000 by the Israelis were at all acceptable. If you actually look at the maps that were offered to the Palestinians, you would understand why Arafat rejected them even after immense pressure from President Clinton and the entire international community - he was being asked to accept a nation of pebbles infused by Israeli-controlled territories. The very notion of territorial integrity had nothing to do with the Palestinian state offered by the Israelis. I humbly ask that Ms. Leibowitz and people who agree with her to revisit those negotiations and I trust that if they look at them objectively (or at least from the point of view of someone who would hope for a vibrant, independent Palestine free of undue foreign influence that could thrive alongside Israel) then they will quickly understand the point I have made.

Arafat refused several peace offers, the latest in Taba in 2000. He was a corrupt terrorist and the entire world knew it. If he had died or been killed years earlier, the Palestinians would have had a state long ago. And they'd know the account numbers of the Swiss bank accounts holding the millions of dollars in foreign aid that Arafat stole from his people.

I think the author has a point about the periods when politicians can make peace, but Arafat was never, never able to make peace--he would have NO role in a peaceful Palestine. His appearance before the UN General Assembly was one of the lowest points in that organization's history (part of their "Zionism is racism" era.) Really, everyone in the region deserves better than nostalgia for Arafat.

Why are the comments disabled? B/c you know you've published tripe?

Palestinians elected a terror organization bent on Israel's desctruction. Today they reap the consequences of kidnapping an Israeli soldier.

Like Arafat, Hamas is all about fueling conflict to ensure their own power. Until Palestinians are honest with themselves their will be no end to conflict.

Palestinians elected a terror organization bent on Israel's desctruction. Today they reap the consequences of kidnapping an Israeli soldier.

Like Arafat, Hamas is all about fueling conflict to ensure their own power. Until Palestinians are honest with themselves their will be no end to conflict.

Arafat was a corrupt mogul who fueled conflict to fund his globael investment empire. Peace was never possible UNTIL HE DIED.

Now there was chance for peace when Irael left Gaza, but Hamas, like Arafat, requires conflict to fund their own existence. Thus Hamas restarted this conflict by kidnapping an Israeli soldier.

Moreover, the Palestinian people elected Hamas -- a terror organization determined to annhiliate Israel -- and today they reap the consequences.

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