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So, Did the Olympics Succeed?

It's interesting to see how the Western press is summing up the Olympics. Thomas Boswell, one of the premier sports writers in America, has this to say.

The only thing that I'd add to Boswell's piece is something that he would have no way of knowing: The Chinese Communist Party can focus the attention of its people and its security services for limited periods of time, say the two weeks of the Olympics. But after that China does (and will) return to a certain normalcy. Now, whether that normalcy will be altered or improved by having hosted the Olympics is another question. Time will tell. But I think Boswell's concerns are legitimate ones and eloquently expressed.

This question -- of what happens in China after the Olympics -- is explored in a post by the Chinese blogger Li Puman here. Li intimates that the whole issue of a "post-Olympic" China might be more of a fascination of the West than a reality in China.

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Comments (358)

Anonymous:

Chen:

OF COURSE IT WAS A SUCCESS!!!

51 GOLD....ENOUGH SAID!!!
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Yeah....exactly....that's the way to shut them up!!!

51 Gold Medals....China All The Way!

Chen:

OF COURSE IT WAS A SUCCESS!!!

51 GOLD....ENOUGH SAID!!!

Glyx:

So, did the Olympics Succeed?

Nice question, I know you will tell so many stories upon my country and it's people. But as a simple Chinese lives in mainland China, I don't care if it succeed or not, why you so care about this game?

It's just a game, man. What would you, or us get from this olympiad, if you are not athlete?

Since it is a game, we shall value the game rules.
Which country got the most No.1 in this game?
Did any athlete live well in Beijing?
Did the sky is blue?
Did the sand storm from Mongolia come?

Take it simple, man.

Anonymous:

Angry residents wailed and protested as rescuers in northern China kept hunting on Wednesday for dozens of victims feared trapped by a deluge of mud after a mine waste reservoir collapsed.

State media reported searchers have confirmed 56 dead after heavy rain triggered Monday's collapse of the holding pond at the Tashan mine in Shanxi province. But some news reports and local officials have suggested the thick mud that blanketed hundreds of metres could hold more dead, possibly 100 or more.

Dozens of friends and relatives hoping for news of people feared trapped were kept away from the site by police. Many of the dead were apparently migrant workers from southwest China.

Some relatives and friends of the missing accused officials of cold-hearted incompetence.

"It's not because of the rain. It wasn't a natural disaster, it was man-made," said a migrant worker surnamed Zhang, who said his friend was probably killed.

"Whole families have gone. So many are dead. Why aren't you digging out our relatives?" a middle-aged woman, Zheng Xiongmei, screamed at a local official.

The Chinese government took extraordinary steps to ensure the nation was trouble-free throughout the Beijing Olympic Games in August. But this disaster, the first big accident since then, is a reminder that the country's mines often remain perilous.

Residents from seven nearby villages had crowded at a marketplace that was buried by the collapsed reservoir, the Beijing News reported.

The Communist Party propaganda chief of Xiangfen county, where the mine in located, dismissed the reports of hundreds of dead as "rumour" but refused to estimate the toll.

"It's all conjecture at the moment," the propaganda chief, Dong Fengyi, said in an interview. Teams of officials were registering names of people who locals and migrant workers said were missing, she said.

By Wednesday morning the rain that had earlier hampered rescuers had eased. More than 1,100 police, firefighters and villagers have been hunting for survivors, according to state media.

But hopes appeared dim of finding any more two days after the disaster, and lifting away the dense mud could take days.

Officials have blamed reckless mining in this polluted region that is scattered with small mines and smelters.

"They knew about that reservoir and did nothing," cried one woman, trying to get past the police cordon to the mudslide. She said seven relatives were missing, including her husband.

China's mining industry is the world's most dangerous, killing nearly 3,800 people last year, as high demand for raw materials from a booming economy pushes managers to cut safety corners.

Most victims are coal miners. But strong iron ore demand has encouraged miners to dig up even low-grade ore, often with little regard for safety or the environment.

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To be continued

В первый период китайской революции, в период первого похода на север, когда национальная армия, приближаясь к реке Янцзы, одерживала победу за победой, а мощное движение рабочих и крестьян ещё не успело развернуться, национальная буржуазия (не компрадоры) шла вместе с революцией. Это была революция объединённого общенационального фронта.

Это не значит, что не было противоречий между революцией и национальной буржуазией. Это значит лишь то, что национальная буржуазия, поддерживая революцию, старалась использовать её в своих целях с тем, чтобы, направляя её по пинии, главным образом, территориальных завоеваний, ограничить её размах. Борьба между правыми и левыми в Гоминдане в этот период была отражением этих противоречий. Попытка Чан Кай-ши в марте 1926 года изгнать коммунистов из Гоминдана была первой серьёзной попыткой национальной буржуазии обуздать революцию. Известно, что ЦК ВКП(б) уже тогда считал, что “необходимо вести линию на сохранение компартии в составе Гоминдана”, что нужно “вести дело к уходу или исключению правых из Гоминдана” (апрель 1926 г.).

Это была линия на дальнейшее развёртывание революции, на тесное сотрудничество левых и коммунистов внутри Гоминдана и в составе национального правительства, на укрепление единства Гоминдана и одновременно — на разоблачение и изоляцию правых гоминдановцев, на подчинение правых дисциплине Гоминдана, на использование правых, их связей и их опыта, поскольку они подчиняются дисциплине Гоминдана, или на изгнание правых из Гоминдана, поскольку они ломают эту дисциплину и изменяют интересам революции.

Последующие события целиком подтвердили правильность этой линии. Мощное развитие крестьянского движения и организация крестьянских союзов и крестьянских комитетов в деревне, мощная забастовочная волна в городах и создание советов профессиональных союзов, победоносное продвижение национальных войск к Шанхаю, осаждённому флотом и войсками империалистов, — все эти и подобные им факты говорят о том, что принятая линия была единственно правильной линией.

Только этим обстоятельством можно объяснить тот факт, что попытка правых в феврале 1927 года расколоть Гоминдан и создать в Наньчане новый центр потерпела крах перед лицом единодушного отпора революционного Гоминдана в Ухане.

Но эта попытка была признаком того, что в стране происходит перегруппировка классовых сил, что правые и национальная буржуазия не успокоятся, что они будут усиливать работу против революции.

ЦК ВКП(б) был поэтому прав, когда он в марте 1927 года говорил, что:

а) “в настоящее время китайская революция, в связи с перегруппировкой классовых сил и концентрацией империалистических армий, переживает критический период и что её дальнейшие победы возможны лишь при решительном курсе на развитие массового движения”;

б) “необходимо держать курс на вооружение рабочих и крестьян, превращение крестьянских комитетов на местах в фактические органы власти с вооружённой самообороной”;

в) “компартия не должна скрывать изменническую и реакционную политику правых гоминдановцев и должна мобилизовать массы вокруг Гоминдана и китайской коммунистической партии на разоблачении правых” (3 марта 1927 г.).

Легко понять поэтому, что в дальнейшем мощный размах революции, с одной стороны, и натиск империалистов в Шанхае, с другой стороны, не могли не отбросить национальную китайскую буржуазию в лагерь контрреволюции, так же как занятие Шанхая национальными войсками и забастовки шанхайских рабочих не могли не объединить империалистов для удушения революции.

Оно так и случилось. Нанкинские расстрелы послужили в этом отношении сигналом к новой размежёвке борющихся сил в Китае. Стреляя в Нанкин и предъявляя ультиматум, империалисты хотели сказать, что они ищут поддержки национальной буржуазии для совместной борьбы против китайской революции.

Расстреливая же рабочие митинги и устраивая переворот, Чан Кай-ши, как бы в ответ на призыв империалистов, говорил, что он готов итти на сделку с империалистами вместе с национальной буржуазией против рабочих и крестьян Китая.

III
ВТОРОЙ ЭТАП КИТАЙСКОЙ РЕВОЛЮЦИИ

Переворот Чан Кай-ши знаменует собой отход национальной буржуазии от революции, нарождение центра национальной контрреволюции и сделку правых гоминдановцев с империализмом против китайской революции.

Переворот Чан Кай-ши означает, что в южном Китае отныне будут два лагеря, два правительства, две армии, два центра — центр революции в Ухане и центр контрреволюции в Нанкине.

Переворот Чан Кай-ши означает, что революция вступила во второй этап своего развития, что начался поворот от революции общенационального объединённого фронта к революции многомиллионных масс рабочих и крестьян, к революции аграрной, которая усилит и расширит борьбу против империализма"," против джентри и феодальных помещиков, против милитаристов и контрреволюционной группы Чан Кай-ши.

Это значит, что борьба между двумя путями революции, между сторонниками дальнейшего её развёртывания и сторонниками её ликвидации, будет обостряться изо дня в день, наполняя собой весь нынешний период революции.

Это значит, что революционный Гоминдан в Ухане, ведя решительную борьбу против милитаризма и империализма, будет превращаться на деле в орган революционно-демократической диктатуры пролетариата и крестьянства, а контрреволюционная группа Чан Кай-ши в Нанкине, отрываясь от рабочих и крестьян и сближаясь с империализмом, разделит, в конце концов, судьбу милитаристов.

Но из этого следует, что политика сохранения единства Гоминдана, политика изоляции правых внутри Гоминдана и использования их для целей революции уже не отвечает новым задачам революции. Эта политика должна быть заменена политикой решительного изгнания правых из Гоминдана, политикой решительной борьбы с правыми, вплоть до полной их политической ликвидации, политикой сосредоточения всей власти в стране в руках революционного Гоминдана, Гоминдана без правых его элементов. Гоминдана, как блока между левыми гоминдановцами и коммунистами.

Из этого следует, далее, что политика тесного сотрудничества левых и коммунистов внутри Гоминдана приобретает на данном этапе особую силу и особое значение, что это сотрудничество отражает складывающийся союз рабочих и крестьян вне Гоминдана, что без такого сотрудничества невозможна победа революции.

Из этого следует, дальше, что основным источником силы революционного Гоминдана является дальнейшее развёртывание революционного движения рабочих и крестьян и укрепление их массовых организаций революционных крестьянских комитетов, профсоюзов рабочих и других массовых революционных организаций, как подготовительных элементов Советов в будущем, что основным залогом победы революции является рост революционной активности миллионных масс трудящихся, а главным противоядием против контрреволюции — вооружение рабочих и крестьян.

Из этого следует, наконец, что, борясь в одних рядах с революционными гоминдановцами, компартия должна более, чем когда-либо, сохранять свою самостоятельность, как условие, необходимое для обеспечения гегемонии пролетариата в буржуазно-демократической революции.

IV
ОШИБКИ ОППОЗИЦИИ

Основная ошибка оппозиции (Радек и компания) состоит в непонимании характера революции в Китае, в непонимании того, какой этап проходит ныне эта революция, в непонимании её нынешней международной обстановки.

Оппозиция требует, чтобы китайская революция развивалась таким же приблизительно темпом, каким шла Октябрьская революция. Оппозиция недовольна, что шанхайские рабочие не приняли решительного боя против империалистов и их приспешников.

Но она не понимает, что революция в Китае не может развиваться быстрым темпом, между прочим, потому, что международная обстановка теперь менее благоприятна, чем в 1917 году (нет войны между империалистами).

Она не понимает, что нельзя принимать решительный бой при невыгодных условиях, когда резервы еще не подтянуты, так же как, например, большевики не приняли решительного боя ни в апреле, ни в июле 1917 года.

Оппозиция не понимает, что не избегать решительного боя в невыгодных условиях (когда его можно избегнуть), — значит облегчить дело врагов революции.

Оппозиция требует немедленного создания Советов рабочих, крестьянских и солдатских депутатов в Китае. Но что значит создать Советы теперь?

Во-первых, их нельзя создать в любой момент, — они создаются лишь в период особого подъёма революционных волн.

Во-вторых, Советы создаются не для болтовни,— они создаются прежде всего как органы борьбы против существующей власти, как органы борьбы за власть. Так было дело в 1905 году. Так было дело в 1917 году.

Но что значит создание Советов в данный момент в районе действия, например, уханского правительства? Это значит дать лозунг борьбы против существующей власти в этом районе. Это значит дать лозунг к созданию новых органов власти, дать лозунг борьбы против власти революционного Гоминдана, куда входят и коммунисты, блокирующиеся с левыми гоминдановцами, ибо никакой другой власти, кроме власти революционного Гоминдана, нет теперь в этом районе.

Это значит, далее, смешивать задачу создания и укрепления массовых организаций рабочих и крестьян в виде стачечных комитетов, крестьянских союзов и комитетов, советов профсоюзов, фабрично-заводских комитетов и т.д., на которые уже теперь опирается революционный Гоминдан, с задачей создания советской системы, как нового типа государственной власти, взамен власти революционного Гоминдана.

Это значит, наконец, не понимать того, какой этап проходит революция в Китае в данный момент. Это значит дать врагам китайского народа новое оружие в руки для борьбы с революцией, для создания новых легенд о том, что в Китае происходит не национальная революция, а искусственное пересаживание “московской советизации”.

Таким образом, оппозиция, выставляя лозунг создания Советов в данный момент, играет на руку врагам китайской революции.

Оппозиция считает нецелесообразным участие компартии в Гоминдане. Оппозиция считает, стало быть, целесообразным уход компартии из Гоминдана. Но что значит уход компартии из Гоминдана теперь, когда вся империалистическая свора со всеми ее прихвостнями требует изгнания коммунистов из Гоминдана? Это значит покинуть поле битвы и бросить своих союзников в Гоминдане на радость врагам революции. Это значит ослабить компартию, подорвать революционный Гоминдан, облегчить дело шанхайских Кавеньяков и отдать знамя Гоминдана, самое популярное из всех знамён в Китае, в руки правых гоминдановцев.

Этого именно и требуют теперь империалисты, милитаристы и правые гоминдановцы.

Выходит, таким образом, что, высказываясь за уход компартии из Гоминдана в данный момент, оппозиция играет на руку врагам китайской революции.

Недавний пленум ЦК нашей партии поступил поэтому совершенно правильно, решительно отвергнув платформу оппозиции.

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Четверть миллиона человек ежегодно кончают жизнь самоубийством в Китае, каждые две минуты происходит девять попыток уйти из жизни, одна из которых заканчивается смертью, сообщает в среду газета "Чайна Дэйли" со ссылкой на обнародованные Китайской ассоциацией психологического здоровья данные.

Молодежь наиболее подвержена суицидальным настроениям в Китае, где проживает 1,3 миллиарда человек. Самоубийства являются основной причиной смертности населения КНР в возрасте от 15 до 34 лет.

Издание приводит данные, которые свидетельствуют о том, что самоубийства являются пятой по количеству жертв причиной смертности в Китае, уступая лишь сердечно-сосудистым, онкологическим и респираторным заболеваниям, а также автомобильным катастрофам.

По данным специалистов, отличительной чертой Китая в области самоубийств является то, что чаще самовольно расстаться с жизнью хотят сельские жители, а не горожане. На одного городского самоубийцу в Китае приходится трое сельских. Половина общего числа самоубийств приходится на молодых женщин, живущих в деревнях.

Главными причинами, которые заставляют их прибегнуть к крайней мере, по мнению составителей доклада, становятся семейные неурядицы (около 30% всех случаев), тяжелый труд и психологическое напряжение на работе (20%), нищета, недостаток образования и ограниченная возможность социальной жизни.

Причиной самоубийств среди школьников, по оценке специалистов, является неоправданное давление в школе и семье, неспособность ребенка справиться с напряжением и страхом не оправдать возложенные на него надежды.

В течение первой недели сентября с началом учебного года в Шанхае, развитом экономической центре Китая, было совершено четыре попытки самоубийства среди школьников. Один случай оказался летальным - 12-летний подросток, успешный ученик одной из городских школ, росший в благополучной семье, выпрыгнул из окна и погиб на глазах ближайших родственников.

Anonymous:

Anonymous:
To 鴻文共欣賞,

回首昨日烽煙路﹐
幾番風雨幾回晴。

讀後感

Ένας Κινέζος με το ελληνικό όνομα Λεωνίδας που έφτασε να γίνει μεταφραστής του Ελύτη και του Σεφέρη βρέθηκε στο πλήθος των συμπατριωτών του που θέλησαν να γνωρίσουν την Ελλάδα μέσω του βιβλίου
O Λεωνίδας είναι Κινέζος. Το 1978 επανήλθε στην Κίνα το σύστημα εξετάσεων εισαγωγής στα πανεπιστήμια που είχε καταργήσει η Μορφωτική Επανάσταση. Εκείνος ήταν τότε 24 ετών και ήθελε να σπουδάσει αγγλική φιλολογία. Έδωσε εξετάσεις και βγήκε πρώτος. Όταν του ήρθε όμως το χαρτί του υπουργείου Παιδείας, του έλεγαν ότι είχε μπει στην ελληνική φιλολογία.

«Στην αρχή απόρησα», λέει στα «ΝΕΑ» στο περιθώριο της 15ης Διεθνούς Έκθεσης Βιβλίου του Πεκίνου (με τιμώμενη χώρα την Ελλάδα), «αλλά είχα και μια περιέργεια για το ποια κατεύθυνση θα έπαιρνε η ζωή μου. Πήγα να ρωτήσω τι συνέβαινε. Μου είπαν ότι το έκαναν επίτηδες. Δεν υπήρχαν ελληνομαθείς και επέλεξαν εκείνοι αυτούς που έκριναν ότι ήταν κατάλληλοι. Μπήκα στο Ινστιτούτο ξένης φιλολογίας στην Ακαδημία Κοινωνικών Επιστημών της Κίνας, που είναι το μεγαλύτερο τριτοβάθμιο ίδρυμα της χώρας και διαθέτει 30 Ινστιτούτα. Βέβαια δεν ήξερα λέξη ελληνικά. Τα πρώτα ελληνικά μού τα έμαθε η καθηγήτρια Κυριακή Βενετσιάνου. Στο τμήμα αυτό ήμασταν πέντε φοιτητές. Οι τρεις κατευθύνθηκαν στα αρχαία ελληνικά και οι άλλοι δύο- ο ένας ήμουν εγώ- στη Νεοελληνική Φιλολογία. Έπειτα έκανα μεταπτυχιακά στο Αριστοτέλειο στη Θεσσαλονίκη με θέμα τη Νεοελληνική Ποίηση. Μελέτησα ιδιαίτερα τον Καβάφη, τον Σεφέρη και τον Ελύτη», λέει.
«Δεν ένιωσα άτυχος που ασχολήθηκα με την ελληνική γλώσσα. Το αντίθετο. Σήμερα νιώθω ευτυχισμένος. Δεν ήταν δική μου επιλογή, αλλά εν τέλει το θεωρώ μεγάλη τύχη, θεϊκή χάρη. Με αυτή τη γλώσσα άνοιξε ένας καινούργιος κόσμος για μένα. Γνώρισα και την ιστορία της χώρας και την καθημερινή της ζωή. Γνώρισα, δηλαδή, έναν πολιτισμό εξίσου μεγάλο με τον δικό μου, τον κινεζικό πολιτισμό».

Ο Λεωνίδας πήρε και ελληνικό όνομα. Πλέον δεν θέλει να δηλώνει καν το κινεζικό. Ακόμη και στην κάρτα του- καθώς σήμερα είναι διευθυντής σε ελληνικών συμφερόντων εταιρεία μαρμάρων στην Κίνα- κάτω από τα κινεζικά ιδεογράμματα διαβάζει κανείς απλώς: «Leonidas». Αυτή είναι η δυτική εκδοχή του ονοματεπώνυμού του. Ο γιος του σπουδάζει και αυτός στην Ελλάδα οικονομικές επιστήμες. Στην πραγματικότητα ούτε για εκείνον ήταν ακριβώς επιλογή, παρ΄ όλο που πέρασε δύο από τα πρώτα παιδικά του χρόνια στη Θεσσαλονίκη, όταν ο πατέρας του σπούδαζε εκεί. «Ήθελε να πάει στην Αμερική, αλλά του μίλησα και τελικά υπάκουσε».

Η γνώση του για την Ελλάδα είναι επαρκής, όπως άλλωστε και τα ελληνικά του.

Τον Μάιο φέτος ολοκλήρωσε και εξέδωσε το «Άξιον Εστί» του Οδυσσέα Ελύτη. Ορισμένα μεταφρασμένα αποσπάσματα τα είχε στείλει και στον ίδιο τον Ελύτη, που είχε χαρεί γι΄ αυτό, μέσω του συγγραφέα Δημήτρη Καλοκύρη. «Όταν αποφάσισα ότι έπρεπε πια να ολοκληρώσω τη μετάφραση, έβαλα πρόγραμμα. Σηκωνόμουν στις 6 το πρωί, έψηνα ελληνικό καφέ και δούλευα μια ώρα. Πήγαινα στη δουλειά μου και το βράδυ δούλευα άλλες δύο ώρες», λέει. Ταυτόχρονα δούλευε και Σεφέρη.
Αυτές τις μέρες κυκλοφόρησε στα κινεζικά, σε ανθολόγηση και μετάφραση του Λεωνίδα, συλλογή 35 ποιημάτων του Γιώργου Σεφέρη από το «Μυθιστόρημα», το «Ημερολόγιο Καταστρώματος» και την «Κίχλη». Τα δύο αυτά βιβλία βρίσκονται στις προθήκες των περιπτέρων του ελληνικού τμήματος της 15ης Διεθνούς Έκθεσης Βιβλίου του Πεκίνου, που λόγω της συμφόρησης από τους Ολυμπιακούς Αγώνες, πραγματοποιείται στην Τιενζίν: μια πόλη 10 εκατομμυρίων κατοίκων, 120 χιλιόμετρα από το Πεκίνο.

Οι Κινέζοι δείχνουν να ευχαριστιούνται που η Ελλάδα είναι τιμώμενη χώρα. Ήρθαν μαζικά στην τελετή έναρξης, έξω από το συνεδριακό κέντρο της πόλης. Κόκκινα χαλιά, λόγοι επισήμων και στην είσοδο του μεγάρου με μεγάλα γράμματα το αφιέρωμα στην Ελλάδαμια ολόκληρη αίθουσα είναι αφιερωμένη στο καλοφτιαγμένο ελληνικό περίπτερο.

Πολύς κόσμος παρακολούθησε με ενδιαφέρον τον Γιώργη Γιατρομανωλάκη να μιλάει για τον Καζαντζάκη- που είναι γνωστός στην Κίνα-, την Ελένη Παπάζογλου- διδάσκει Θέατρο στη Σχολή Καλών Τεχνών Θεσσαλονίκης- να μιλά για την αθηναϊκή δημοκρατία, τον σινολόγο Σωτήρη Χαλικιά να συγκρίνει την πορεία της κινεζικής και της ελληνικής γλώσσας.

Ιδιαίτερα ενθουσιώδες ήταν το κοινό και στην παρουσίαση παραμυθιών από την Εύη Γεροκώστα (την προσκάλεσαν στη διεθνή έκθεση βιβλίου της Ταϊπέι) με παράλληλη ζωντανή εικονογράφηση από τον Βασίλη Παπατσαρούχα (μοίραζε αυτόγραφα).

@@:

"China may show some reluctance towards investing further in US Treasury bonds after the bailout of the troubled mortgage finance giants Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, say debt market experts.

Last weekend the US government announced a takeover of the two large mortgage financers. The expected move will inject much needed capital into the troubled institutions, diluting shareholders’ equity but offering bondholders the explicit backing of the American government."

http://www.financeasia.com/print.aspx?CIID=122295

Anonymous:

Chinese Northern Traditional Rap about American History (Free Copyright)
山东快板-美国痢屎

打竹板儿说闲话儿
今儿个来说说美国佬,
美国佬他不是人,
歪把子枪上戴民主套.
偷鸡摸狗教会逐,
狼狈西蹿是其祖.
落岸抛锚新大陆,
举起火枪开杀戮.
可悲印地安全族,
子孙灭绝无生路.
若知豺狼怨报恩,
莫赐火鸡马岭薯.
移民推进新大陆,
圣经宣传火枪突.
刚刚成立十三州,
诬赖流氓罢交赎.
用其税金征壮夫,
独立之名为私务.
阔土庄园建其屋,
澹澹血迹遍地污.
油心贪得不劳利,
南非捉来黑人奴.
问君多少黑奴泪,
白白棉花润湿土.
问君多少黑奴血,
甜蜜甘糖和水流.
可悲黑人根斷絕,
忘其語言忘祭祖.
輩輩勞奴喪異鄉,
終身非法不得訴.
農奴哀嚎近百年,
日夜禱告達上主.
上天不棄哀奴淚,
林肯被選當總統.
南部八州搞分裂,
為了棉稅為其奴.
風風火火鬥志勃,
南分北統紛爭仇.
洋基撒血為一統,
南人扑倒為自由.
雖說美國民主國,
為何先烈墓疊疊?
雖說美國文明邦,
為何國史紙肮髒?
To be continued

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Anonymous:

To 鴻文共欣賞,

回首昨日烽煙路﹐
幾番風雨幾回晴。

讀後感

Citizen of the post-American world:

Sara Barracuda writes: "Although China and India continued to rise in the East, Lord Patten said, the US was still the only true superpower, through the sheer might of its armed forces, adding: “It is militarily invincible, but not invulnerable.”"

I don't mean to argue that China is a menace, which it is not, but rather, briefly, against "military invincibility", a concept which only encourages reckless initiatives on the international scene.

In this atomic age, and decades of military developments beyond Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD), the concept of "military invincibility" is meaningless and that of "superpower" irrelevant: military invincibility has ceased to exist the day military weapons became so lethal as to threaten the very survival not only of the human species, but of all life on earth.

It is unfortunate that we have regressed so much that we no longer remember (or never came to learn) the lessons served to us by the most prominent people of our time: Lord Bertrand Russell ("Has Man a Future?"), Dr. Albert Schweitzer ("Peace or Atomic War"), Dr. Linus Pauling ("On Human Survival"), and all the world renowned scientists who have made repeated appeals "To Governments and People of the World" in the hope that they put an end to that MADness.

With the advent of "chemical soldiers" (Richard A. Gabriel, "No More Heroes: Madness and Psychiatry in War"), who in one's right mind can possibly believe, anymore, in the persistence of the "military invincible"?

This is the time of self-destruction. Millenary old philosophers have been proven right: the enemy is within.

Anonymous:

As excuses go, they are certainly creative. But it's hard to imagine the Communist top brass feeling much sympathy for the Chinese official who blamed his outre lifestyle on his sex appeal.

Senior leaders have warned that corruption is a life or death struggle for the party. But cadres have plenty of reasons to succumb, to judge from a list of this year's most foolish remarks from those caught out.

They include the former secretary of a county in Zhejiang province, who assured investigators: "Although I received money, I feel I am more incorruptible than others."

Another man, who ran the team of auditors for a large state-owned company, said the money he received did not count as bribes.

"My face is too thin and when others insist on giving me money I feel it is difficult to refuse," he said.

Liu Songtao, the former head of the Chongqing number three hospital, blamed his irresistible charm for his travails.

According to the official state news agency Xinhua, he was sentenced to 12 years for taking bribes. Questioned about his numerous affairs, he acknowledged: "I have lovers. Many women like me, I have no other way."

China has announced measures to tackle the growing problem of corruption, including targeting the relatives and lovers of officials.

A departmental head in Leshan City, Sichuan, explained: "I didn't know corruption was a serious crime till I was arrested."

Others sought to put their offences in context. A senior official from a city in Anhui province said it was "okay to sacrifice the smaller things" if it was beneficial to long-term development.

One aggrieved offender insisted he was a victim too because he had repaid 300,000 yuan (£25,000) of bribes and given the donor another 400,000 yuan not to mention the incident.

The blogger who posted the comments on the Rednet website, calling himself only Jie, said he hoped they would act as a warning to officials.

Anonymous:

A Chinese People's Liberation Army (P.L.A) officer was executed last week after a military court found him guilty of selling classified documents to Taiwan, a Hong Kong newspaper reported on Monday.

The pro-Beijing daily Ta Kung Pao said Lt. Dai Yibiao, 33, contacted a Taiwanese spy through the Internet in April 2006 and in November of that year sent to the agent 116 classified electronic documents over the Internet.

Dai was said to have received 82,160 yuan (about USD 12,000) for the documents, the report said.

The Nanjing Military Court ruled that Dai's behavior constituted espionage and sentenced him to death. Dai's appeal at the P.L.A. military court failed and he was executed on Friday, the report said.

Information in mainland China can easily be classified as state secrets or highly classified material, and people who handle them without authorization, including the media, could face serious consequences.

Anonymous:

A Chinese woman detained for a month after protesting about being evicted from her home ahead of the Olympics has been freed, the woman and her son said Monday.

Zhang Wei said she was released on Saturday on condition that she keep her cell phone on at all times so police can contact her and order her back to jail if necessary.

"There was no reasonable explanation for why those conditions were attached to her release," Zhang's son, Mi Yu, said in a separate interview.

Mi said his mother had been told not to talk to reporters.

Telephones rang unanswered at the police station in the Chongwen district where Zhang was held.

Zhang has been vocal in the past two years about the pain caused by being forced out of her traditional family courtyard home in the Qianmen area near Tiananmen Square to make way for a commercial strip that opened a day before the Aug. 8 start of the Olympics.

She refused compensation for her home, and had gone every Monday to the district government's offices to plead her case.

During the games, an extremely sensitive period for China, authorities rounded up activists and others who applied to demonstrate in three areas that had been approved as official protest zones during the Olympics.

Zhang had sought permission to stage a protest at one of the zones in hopes of drawing attention to her plight after years of fruitless wrangling with local officials. Days later, she was taken from her home close to midnight. Police originally said she would be detained for three days, but later extended it to a month.

Mi said family members were unable to contact her while she was detained. Zhang said her husband tried calling the detention center many times but the phones were never answered.

The forced relocation of Beijing residents caught up in redevelopment projects is a hot-button issue for the government.

Just before the Olympics started, 20 people angry about their evictions from Qianmen demonstrated near Tiananmen Square. The protesters, who did not include Zhang, were dragged away by neighborhood officials as police watched.

Sara Barracuda:

Abu Dhabi - Lord Chris Patten said talk of China’s rise showed a lack of historic knowledge. “China has been the largest economy in the world for 18 out of the last 20 centuries.”

The word he preferred was the “re-emergence” of China on the global stage, a subject on which he is better qualified than most to address as the governor of Hong Kong before the island was handed back to China in 1997.

Although China and India continued to rise in the East, Lord Patten said, the US was still the only true superpower, through the sheer might of its armed forces, adding: “It is militarily invincible, but not invulnerable.”

Lord Patten rejected the proposition of some commentators that “hegemonic struggle” between China and the US was inevitable in the 21st century.

“I don’t believe a strong China economically represents a threat to America or a threat to anyone else,” he said. “I think for China’s economic progress to flag or to stutter, would be much more of a threat to us all.”

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20080908/PAGETHREE/269284416/1119

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Engelliler Olimpiyat Oyunları'nın açılışına katılmak için Çin'e giden İran lideri Mahmud Ahmedinecad, Çin Devlet Başkanı Hu Cintao ile bir araya geldi. Nükleer programa destek istedi. Cintao, ise İran'ın nükleer sorunuyla ilgili Çin'in eskiden olduğu gibi gelecekte de, barışçıl görüşmelerle çözülmesi sürecini destekleyeceğini söyledi. Öte yandan Çinli lider, 12 Mayıstaki depremin ardından verdiği destekten ötürü İran'a teşekkür etti.

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別与那些西方無賴混在一起,浪費我們無价的生命和青春.
請讀下面這篇鴻文"大国游戏".把它介紹給你認識的人.


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Citizen of the post-American world:

@ Anonymous (September 8, 2008 12:31 AM).

Comme disent les avocats, « en tout respect », vous y allez un peu fort. Même en français, il ne faudrait tout de même pas, sur un ton apparemment raisonnable voire modéré, nous prendre, nous Américains, pour de parfaits imbéciles.

L’opinion publique est le maillon fort des démocraties. Il est bon de rappeler, je crois, que les aventures militaires en Iraq et en Afghanistan ont eu lieu en dépit des opinions publiques, à partir de mensonges scandaleux et d’une parfaite tromperie, étalés à la face du monde entier. A ce jour, ces aventures continuent d’être imposées à des populations qui leur sont déjà très majoritairement hostiles, par des autorités politiques qui, abusant du pouvoir et des libertés démocratiques, pratiquent, par personnes interposées, ce qu’on a appelé « la manufacture du consentement ». Il n’y a donc pas lieu, je crois, de se préoccuper outre mesure de ce que vous appelez les « techniques de propagande très élaborées » de nos adversaires. On doit bien davantage s’insurger contre celles que nous pratiquons nous-mêmes et dont nous sommes les premières victimes.

Tandis que nous y sommes, le véritable scénario géorgien reste à être présenté intégralement dans les médias occidentaux; que l’on se soit abstenu de le faire jusqu’à présent est très mauvais signe quant à la valeur politique et morale de ce qui s’avère n’être, pour l’heure, que propagande vulgaire et vaine, dirigée contre la Russie.

En ce qui a trait au Tibet, au-delà des gémissements simulés et des mises en scène, la preuve reste à être clairement établie que, comme vous dites, les « Tibétains (sont) atrocement réprimés ». Quiconque s’est rendu au Tibet et y a vécu a pu observer bien autre chose, à savoir un développement et une harmonie sociale que nos médias préfèrent taire, pour les raisons que je vous laisse imaginer. Au printemps dernier, la Chine n’était pas furieuse du soutien français aux Tibétains mais bien de la campagne anti-chinoise indigne, mensongère, menée contre elle, incluant des attaques sur Jin Jing, une citoyenne chinoise handicapée dont il existe des preuves éloquentes et irréfutables dont j’ai moi-même pris connaissance. Quiconque a suivi le cours de cette campagne de dénigrement menée, en Occident, à partir de documents ainsi que de commentaires faux, voire truqués, s’est convaincu du bien-fondé de l’attitude chinoise et de l’ultimatum servi personnellement à Nicolas Sarkozy par l’envoyé spécial du président Hu Jintao. Rien d’étonnant à ce que la France soit entrée de toute urgence en mode de « contrôle des dégâts » (damage control), suite à cet ultimatum.

Bref, la meilleure façon qu’ont nos gouvernements et nos médias d’aider « les opinions publiques des pays démocratiques… à résister à ces intimidations » qui vous obsèdent tant, c’est de commencer en tout premier lieu par respecter eux-mêmes la vérité et la justice ; cela inclut qu’ils respectent eux-mêmes, et nous incitent à respecter en tout temps, les droits humains, les lois internationales, la Charte et les résolutions des Nations Unies, les Conventions de Genève, les traités et les accords internationaux, etc. Je l’admets, qu'ils respectent et nous invitent à respecter ce qui n'est, après tout, que l’ancien ordre mondial (le nôtre !) est déjà tout un programme. Mais cela s’impose, si nous voulons un jour être dignes de participer à l’élaboration de ce nouvel ordre mondial qui bientôt s’imposera et exigera d’être respecté.

Chen:

From Wu Ming To Chen,

"This is how we deal the China basher, it is more classical than counting the gold. Don't learn from American, only they counting their material gain like a farmer lost in the city."

Wu Ming....

Americans do not understand subtle.
Americans do not relate to poetry.
Americans only understand power, pop culture, and materialism.

Pointing out...that we....won 51 GOLD, is far more than they can emotionally reconcile.

Anonymous:

Anonymous:
塞下曲·其四
卢伦

野幕蔽琼筵,
羌戎贺劳旋。
醉和金甲舞,
雷鼓动山川。

In the field we prepared our good feast,
For the enemy to bow before our victory.
In our gold armour we drank and danced,
our drums trembled the rivers and hills.

Oh, come bashers! We are prepared for you:)

From Wu Ming To Chen,

This is how we deal the China basher, it is more classical than counting the gold. Don't learn from American, only they counting their material gain like a farmer lost in the city.

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De plus en plus souvent, l'opinion publique fait l'objet d'intimidations et de menaces. Voici quelques jours, les talibans lui ont fait savoir que, si la France ne se retirait pas d'Afghanistan, ses soldats seraient leur cible. Ils tentent d'exploiter la vive émotion suscitée, dans l'opinion, par la mort au combat des dix soldats.

Après les accords signés sous l'égide de la présidence française de l'Union européenne, la Russie refuse toujours d'honorer ses engagements en Géorgie. Alors que l'Europe proteste contre cette attitude, la Russie proclame que l'Europe a davantage besoin de la Russie qu'elle n'a besoin de l'Europe. Allusion menaçante à la dépendance partielle de l'Europe vis-à-vis du gaz russe. Au printemps, la Chine, furieuse de notre soutien aux Tibétains atrocement réprimés, a lancé une immense campagne de propagande sur Internet. Elle appelait au boycott des entreprises françaises implantées en Chine, menaçant ainsi leur développement.

Aux yeux des auteurs de ces menaces, l'opinion publique est le maillon faible des démocraties. Ils espèrent, en l'inquiétant, faire indirectement pression sur nos gouvernements pour affaiblir leur courage politique et influencer leurs décisions. En effet, avec le recours constant aux sondages, la moindre émotion peut avoir des répercussions politiques. De plus, comme l'image des inquiétudes est souvent amplifiée par les médias, celles-ci se propagent et se transforment en peur.

Ce sont ces peurs que veulent aviver et exploiter les pays qui entendent prendre leur revanche et remodeler « l'ordre du monde ». Ils ne cachent pas leurs ambitions : imposer leur domination en matière économique, territoriale, politique ou religieuse. Sur leur chemin, les démocraties sont un obstacle. Car elles imposent les règles du droit et refusent la loi du plus fort. S'attaquer aux opinions publiques est, pour eux, un moyen d'affaiblir les démocraties.

Nous avons peu conscience des techniques de propagande très élaborées que ces pays ont développées au XXe siècle. Elles sont toujours actives aujourd'hui. Des instruments ultramodernes leur permettent de tenter de déstabiliser non seulement les opinions publiques, mais même le fonctionnement de nos États (1). Ils sont prêts à provoquer des incidents créant la défiance entre peuples européens (2), à diffuser rumeurs, menaces et analyses biaisées.

Les opinions publiques des pays démocratiques doivent apprendre à résister à ces intimidations. Les médias ont le devoir de les y aider en déjouant les propagandes et en aidant les Français à comprendre les enjeux du monde. Les citoyens ont un rôle décisif à jouer en démontrant qu'ils ne forment pas une masse manipulable, mais bien un peuple libre et courageux.

Anonymous:

塞下曲·其四
卢伦

野幕蔽琼筵,
羌戎贺劳旋。
醉和金甲舞,
雷鼓动山川。

In the field we prepared our good feast,
For the enemy to bow before our victory.
In our gold armour we drank and danced,
our drums trembled the rivers and hills.

Oh, come bashers! We are prepared for you:)

From Wu Ming To Chen,

This is how we deal the China basher, it is more classical than counting the gold. Don't learn from American, only they counting their material gain like a farmer lost in the city.


Anonymous:

To Chen,

My name is Wu Ming, 无名士也, 既无名是也.


大国游戏:


Chinese readers, do not waste your time in places like here.

Read this great article, and let others know about it.

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_521090fd01009ggk.html

Chen:

ANONYMOUS:
IF YOU WERE CHINESE, YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH HONOR NOT TO LABEL YOURSELF "ANONYMOUS".
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"WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY, YOU SON OF S-H-I-T B-I-T-C-H?"

DUH!?

Anonymous:

IF YOU WERE CHINESE, YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH HONOR NOT TO LABEL YOURSELF "ANONYMOUS".
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WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY, YOU SON OF S-H-I-T B-I-T-C-H?

Anonymous:

Friday, August 8, was the holiest day in China's 2008 calendar. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and U.S. President George W. Bush were in Beijing (along with 54 other heads of state and 15 prime ministers) to watch the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games. Russia also invaded Georgia that day. China shrugged off the Russian desecration of the sacred date, but the invasion sent shudders through Russia's former Soviet republics.

Yet 20 days later, in the Tajik capital of Dushanbe, the heads of state of China, Russia, and four former Soviet Central Asian "Shanghai Cooperation Organization" (SCO) members pronounced their "support for Russia's active efforts in promoting peace and cooperation in that region." Their communiqué, known as the "Dushanbe Declaration,"[1] included language decrying the "use of armed force to resolve problems" and called for "respect of the basic tents of international law." But was it a veiled slap at Russia?

Not likely, given the signature of Russia's titular President Dmitri Medvedev on the document. The SCO operates by consensus and, if he had wanted, Medvedev could have aborted the whole thing. Of course, it is not clear exactly what happened. It could be that, for whatever reason, this was the best deal Medvedev could get. What is clear, however, is that in the end, it was enough for Medvedev to declare the backing of China and the other SCO states for Russia's intervention.[2] China has certainly not objected to his characterization.

The declaration is easily read as blaming the necessity for Russia's military intercession on those who failed "to respect every country's and every people's history and cultural traditions," an allusion to Georgia's disregard for the "history and cultural traditions" of its Abkhazian and South Ossetian minorities. More in sorrow than in anger, the declaration recalled that "not long ago, the members of this organization expressed deep concern about tensions generated in the situation surrounding South Ossetia, and called upon each relevant party to resolve peacefully current problems through dialogue."

Despite these sentiments, Beijing was not "concerned" by Moscow's muscular action on the day of the Olympics' opening ceremony. This much was obvious at the summit meeting the following day between Chinese President Hu Jintao and Russia's real strongman, Premier Vladimir Putin. Without a trace of irony, Hu praised China's relationship with its Russian "strategic cooperative partner" as "advancing across the board precisely in accordance with our commonly declared goals"[3]—a full-throated endorsement if ever there was one. Hu's comments were hardly unusual; in view of their interlocking bilateral and multilateral security treaties, the China-Russia relationship is what most would call an "alliance."[4] Tellingly, the unpleasantness in Georgia was not mentioned in the front-page banner-headlined People's Daily report of the Hu-Putin summit.[5] Xinhua's lengthy report of the invasion, datelined Moscow, was relegated to page 17 of the People's Daily, and it blamed Georgia's oppression of the Ossetians for necessitating the Russian action.[6]

On Sunday, August 10, President Hu held another summit, this time with President Bush, who had just come from a state-sponsored Christian church service. Hu thanked Bush for his "support on many occasions for the Beijing Olympics," praise that was reported on the front page of the People's Daily, complete with banner headline.[7] According to Chinese state media, the two discussed North Korea, Iran, Sudan, and Darfur. Yet the Chinese press again failed to mention that Bush raised the matter of Russia's aggression against its small neighbor. While White House aides recalled that Bush and Hu had a "discussion of the issue of Georgia," apparently the Chinese state media viewed such dialogue as inconsequential.[8]

A few days later (with the Olympics well under way), the Georgian ambassador in Beijing sought China's intercession with Russia. The Chinese foreign ministry stiff-armed the Georgians with the following non-response: "Our position on the South Ossetia issue is clear. We hope disputes can be resolved peacefully through dialogue so as to achieve regional peace and stability."[9]

Despite the Foreign Ministry's assurances, China's current position on "the South Ossetian issue" is not clear. In April 2006, China persuaded Georgia to abjure official relations with Taiwan by, in turn, agreeing in a "Joint Statement of the two presidents" that "Abkhazia and South Ossetia are internal affairs of Georgia and should be properly handled through peaceful negotiations based on respect of Georgia's state sovereignty and territorial integrity."[10]

That "Joint Statement," however, was only for foreigners—not Chinese—to see. At the time, the People's Daily said nothing of Georgia's territorial integrity, sovereignty, or anything "peaceful" in its article reporting the Joint Statement,[11] nor can one find the text of the Joint Statement on the Chinese Foreign Ministry's Chinese language web page.[12]

Thus, on August 26, when Moscow announced its formal recognition of Abkhazia's and South Ossetia's independence from Georgia, the Chinese Foreign Ministry was only able to muster the following ambiguous statement:

The Chinese side expresses concern for the most recent changes in the developing situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. We understand the complicated history and the current situation of the South Ossetia and Abkhazia issue. At the same time, based on the Chinese side's consistent principled position on this sort of issue, we hope that each of the relevant parties can satisfactorily resolve the issue through dialogue and consultation.[13]

Whatever China's position is, principled is not a word to describe it. In marked contrast to the 2006 China-Georgia "Joint Statement," this latest comment left out the words "peaceful," "territorial integrity," and "sovereignty," as if the earlier communiqué was irrelevant.

Pointed Inquiry

On August 26, this writer asked Chinese diplomats why China's rhetorical "adherence" to "principles" of "sovereignty," "territorial integrity," and "peaceful dialogue" had vanished as a helpless state was invaded by China's military partner, Russia. The least China could have done, this writer suggested, was repeat the wording of the China-Georgia "Joint Statement." Would that have been so difficult?

In response, the Chinese diplomats did not betray the slightest "concern" that the independence of Georgia's breakaway regions would set any precedent. Without a hint of irony—which would be appropriate, given China's relentless opposition to similar votes in Taiwan—the diplomats instead insisted on the right of the Abkhazians and the South Ossetians to determine their own future via a plebiscite. Indeed, China acquiesced to East Timor's independence on the same grounds.

China's Expansionist Motivations

China would want to support its Russian partner's military operations against Georgia for two reasons:

1. China considers American and NATO moves to bring Georgia into the network of Western security pacts as a threat to a close Chinese partner; and
2. China may want to preserve its options for taking similar action beyond its own borders.

For those who believe China is not an "expansionist" state, one should consider that China has active territorial claims on the following locales:

-- Japan's Senkaku Islands;

-- All islands, rocks, shoals and undersea resources in the South China Sea (including those occupied by the Philippines, Vietnam and, of course, Taiwan); and

-- "The whole of what you [Indians] call the state of Arunachal Pradesh," as the Chinese ambassador proclaimed in a nationwide television broadcast in India.[14]

This last claim caused quite a start among the million people in Arunachal Pradesh—none of whom are ethnic Chinese. And, of course, there is Taiwan itself. The Taiwanese, however, may now take some glum consolation that at least their land is not the only territory that Beijing covets beyond its borders.

The Georgian adventure is Russia's fight, and there is no need for China to expend its diplomatic capital in the affair, which explains why China's representative failed to speak up in the United Nations Security Council last Thursday (August 28) on Russia's behalf. Instead, China preferred to let South Africa and Vietnam play that role. After several fatiguing weeks dealing with Olympic-sized public relations fiascos, it suits China's diplomats to sit back and let the Russians take the heat for their Caucasian invasion. But in light of President Hu's assertion immediately after the invasion that Beijing and Moscow are "advancing across the board precisely in accordance with our commonly declared goals," one should not expect major fissures in the great Eurasian partnership of China and Russia.

Chen:

ANONYMOUS:
Dear Chen,

I am a Chinese, but I disagree with your understanding of Olympic, so what we have 51 gold, what that means? that we Chinese doing better than American?

IF YOU WERE CHINESE, YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH HONOR NOT TO LABEL YOURSELF "ANONYMOUS".

Anonymous:

Wang Fei's infidelity deeply upset his wife. She wrote of her distress in a diary, and then jumped from their 24th-floor balcony.

Her family posted details of Wang Fei's affair on the Internet, angrily blaming him for his wife's suicide. Soon, tens of thousands of Chinese Web users knew about Wang Fei.

Many felt incensed, so they revved up a "human-flesh search engine," which is what Chinese Internet users call their Web hunts.

They appealed to fellow Chinese to ferret out information about the philandering husband and humiliate him.

They posted photos of Wang Fei and details about his job, his car's license-plate number and his national ID number. Even his parents were drawn into the fray.

"Internet users went to the house of Wang Fei's parents and painted a lot of nasty slogans, like, 'You should pay back with blood for what you did!' " said Zhang Yanfeng, Wang Fei's attorney.


Web prey fights back
The 28-year-old Beijing resident lost his job at a major advertising agency and found himself hounded frequently on the street by passers-by.

He filed a lawsuit against three Chinese Internet portals and Web sites to demand compensation for the damage to his reputation and livelihood.

The lawsuit, which was filed in March, has roiled the legal community because it touches on aspects of privacy and the balance between personal rights and the public's freedom of speech that are relatively unexplored in China. In the past few days, it has also drawn demands for legal reforms.

It also has gathered attention because Internet manhunts are increasing, sometimes taking on a lynch-mob mentality with a slight but not-so-distant echo of history.


Posting accusations
In the tumultuous era of the Cultural Revolution, from 1966 to 1976, paramount Communist leader Mao Zedong unleashed students and low-level cadres to purge the nation of "rightists" in a period of political upheaval.

Then, students pasted "big character posters" on walls with their denunciations.

Now, Internet users post their accusations on the Web.

In April, Duke University student Grace Wang was vilified after she tried to seek a middle ground between pro- and anti-Tibet independence forces on the North Carolina campus.

Internet users in China tracked down her parents in Qingdao, dumping feces at their doorstep and forcing them into hiding.

Experts say the phenomenon is far wider than simple vigilante justice. In some cases, Internet users have banded together to expose fraud, knock down charlatanism or, in one case, to help the wife of a soldier deployed to an earthquake-devastated area of China. In a nation where information is controlled, a thirst for greater flows of information is growing, and people sometimes band together to gather it.

"The technology that makes this possible is neutral," said David Bandurski, a researcher at Hong Kong University's China Media Project. "It doesn't have any agenda."


Changes to criminal code
Delegating tasks through the Internet to a large and diffuse group to harness its collective wisdom is a process sometimes referred to in recent years as "crowdsourcing."

Worried by Internet manhunts, some legislators from the National People's Congress, China's largely ceremonial assembly, late last month proposed amendments to the criminal code to imprison for up to three years employees of government offices, and financial or educational institutions, who are found to leak personal information about people who are victims of "human-flesh search engines."

The Web manhunt "is not a simple moral battle but a matter that seriously batters the rights of the people," Zhu Zhigang, a member of the Standing Committee of the Congress who proposed the amendment, told the China Daily newspaper.

"This is a hot topic," said Liu Deliang, a researcher at the Asia-Pacific Institute for Cyber-law Studies at the Beijing University of Post and Telecommunications.


Rule of law still weak
Liu said that the Beijing district court, noting interest in the case, will have three judges issue a ruling, rather than one, perhaps as soon as mid-September. The court also has held a seminar and sought expert opinion from a number of legal scholars.

Liu offered his opinion to the court.

"If China wants to have a law on this topic, it has a long way to go because the definition of what is private is not clear," Liu said.

Moreover, he added, rule of law is still weak in China, and "people don't have a strong idea of the need to respect other peoples' rights."

Many Web sites promote manhunt searches, knowing that a public appetite for matters of marital affairs and sex scandals can sharply boost traffic. But not all Chinese Internet users believe the "human-flesh search engines" are a good thing. In an unscientific poll of Web users, China's most popular site, Sina.com, found that 41 percent of respondents thought the Internet hunts had abused people's privacy. The same percentage thinks criminal penalties should be imposed on cases of abuse.

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"Hundreds of armed police were dispatched to central China to quell a demonstration by crowds demanding their money back from a fund-raising scheme, the local government said.

The protest began Wednesday in Hunan province and gathered momentum Thursday, blocking traffic and delaying trains, but had returned to normal by Friday, according to a witness and the government of Xiangxi prefecture."

http://www.macaudailytimesnews.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15676&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=31

Anonymous:

Watch out on the Chinese century vs global politics, trade, leadership, finance, and jobs! What is behind China's global empire dream? Explore vast finance, outsourcing, investment, stock market, and trade opportunities from China from a leading Chinese strategist George Zhibin Gu.

China's international strategy and expansions: Chinese multinationals, finance, outsourcing, travel, politics, and trade vs challenges and conflicts under globalization and capitalism

By Financial Sense

JIM PUPLAVA : My guest this week is George Zhibin Gu, author of two new books : 1. China's global reach ; markets, multinationals, and globalization ; 2. China and the new world order : how entrepreneurship, globalization and borderless business are reshaping China and the world.

George, you grew up in China during a very difficult time, especially during the Cultural Revolution. How has this impacted your thinking today in terms of how you view China ?

GEORGE ZHIBIN GU, PHD : Well, while I was growing up in China, China experienced a cultural revolution, as well as people抯 communes in the countryside. It was chaotic, it was characterized by abusive government power which was expanding into everybody's lives. What is more, it was an entirely closed society. In other words, every citizen had to work for the government to make a living. So the government exactly demanded the servitude of citizens, but today everything has changed fundamentally. So, in my mind two things are most crucial for modern society and progress, that is, having an open society is a must ; secondly, private initiatives - people must rely upon their own efforts for progress and prosperity. That is exactly what has been happening for the last 25 years. This makes all the difference. The third one is that international participation in any country's development is a necessity, otherwise development slows down tremendously. So, the situation in China and India shows [this is] the case. [3:05]

JIM : You know that was one of the points that you made in your book, that the grand lesson of China is that no nation can truly develop without making itself open to the rest of the world.

GEORGE : That is very true. 500 years ago, Europe became an open society expanding globally. Especially the US, it depended on talents, capital, and technology from the rest of the world. That's why the US has become a dominating power globally for the last 100 years. Today, China is doing the same thing, relying upon all the resources from around the globe. [3:46]

JIM : You know, one of the great paradoxes as you look at China today is this vast economic progress, but it does not have a new political-economic system in place. Can you explain that ?

GEORGE : Basically, this current reform at an institutional level was initiated by the government. The government wanted to try something different from the previous 30 years. In Mao era the government dominated all economic and political spheres - everybody had to work for the government. On the other hand this political structure created a lot of burdens for the government. Therefore the government wanted to shift the burdensome aspects of the business to the society and people. At the same time, government does not like to give up on its traditional power hold on the society, therefore at the institutional level you [will] still see that traditional political framework is still at work. For example, about 70% of China's business assets are still in government hands. So, this is one fundamental aspect of China's current reform. However, you see the other trend which is overpowering the government and promoting its political and economic reform, reluctantly or not. [5:24]

JIM : George, in your mind what are the key driving forces behind China's economic development today ?

GEORGE : Number one, opening up. During the Cultural Revolution, China's economy was shutdown. It had no economic ties to the outside world whatsoever. So, opening up China has brought new ideas - technical and technology - as well as results, for growth. So, this is the most crucial aspect behind the growth.

Number two is the domestic consumption explosion. For example, 25 years ago China did not have any mobile phones, but today China has about 400 million mobile phone subscribers. Also, 20 years ago China had few television sets, but today almost every urban family has at least one television set, and in the countryside about 50% do. So, therefore China has become the biggest home appliances market really.

Number three is international involvement in 3 areas. The first area is foreign direct investment (FDI). In the last 26 years China has received more than 600 billion US dollars in FDI. This FDI has prompted new growth, especially in the manufacturing area. Number three is international trade. So far, China's international trade has grown tremendously from next to nothing 25 years ago to one of the top three trading nations today. So, this international trade is another area of growth, but overall the domestic consumption explosion is the foundation. Without it China could not attract foreign capital or international trade. [7:33]

JIM : Now, you state in your book one of the ultimate goals for your country is to become a modern nation ruled by law.

GEORGE : That is true.

JIM : How does that happen given the government structure you have today ?

GEORGE : It's actually slowly changing. The government has found out that it does not need to apply traditional power to rule over society. Actually, being without the law also brings burdens to the government. For example, in the economic field there are all kinds of disputes among different interest[ed] parties, therefore to resolve such disputes they must apply law, legal procedures in a new way. Therefore we have a lot of legal progress in the economic and business field. Even in the political sphere some new political measures have been introduced. For example, direct vote at the village level has been introduced. That is, at the village level the village leaders are directly elected by their villagers - that抯 a new change. And if this trend grows you will see more political changes, especially in the legal and power structure. [8:56]

JIM : Most people would be surprised, even though China is referred to as a developing nation, throughout most of history China has been more advanced in technology, the arts, and social harmony. I wonder if you would give us a little historical background of just exactly how developed China was. I think most people would be really surprised.

GEORGE : For example, about 150 years ago China was the most advanced nation in terms of wealth. At that time, China contributed about 30% of world economic output. 1000 years ago China already had 50 of the biggest cities on a global basis. The biggest city in China at that time was Xian, which already at that time had a population of about 3 million. Also, about 50,000 foreign nationals lived in the city, mostly from Japan, Korea, and the Middle East. Xian was the beginning point for the Silk Road, international trade had Xian as its center. This was about 1000 years ago. [10:27]

JIM : You know, the old China was based around government and agriculture. You抮e moving away from that, especially away from government domination. But, you know, the one thing that seems to me that China does, which you don't see too much, when you think of planning in the future, your government and people there tend to think in decades. Is that how you see this unfolding, it's something that抯 going to take decades before we see a completely open market, a completely open financial system, and less government dominance ?

GEORGE : It's happening faster than previously thought. For example, even now, international banks are allowed to buy major stakes in Chinese banks. Therefore we have seen a couple of big transactions already happen : one is Bank of America ; another is HSBC buying serious stakes in the top five Chinese banks. This has prompted what I would call a revolution in the Chinese banking system. That is, not only is international capital injected into Chinese banks, but also a lot of managers - we are talking hundreds of international managers appointed by Bank of America and HSBC - managing Chinese banks on a daily basis. That's a huge change.

Also, another tremendous change is the emergence of 40 million private entrepreneurs. 25 years ago it was a completely state sector, now we are talking about the state sector retreating to about 50% or less in terms of economic output. The state sector now only contributes about 30%, the rest is from the private sector and the international sector. In terms of industrial output, 2 years ago, International Inc. - as a group - contributed about 31%. That's a huge market share, we are talking about a 1/3 market share. So, this international presence, as well as the private sector in China, are altering the Chinese political and economic map - that's something nobody expected before. [12:56]

JIM : It's rather ironic as the West moves to more government control, and less freedom, China is moving in the opposite direction.

GEORGE : Right now, China is quickly adopting international practice and standards in all kinds of ways. The only problem is this old government structure which still tries to dominate in the traditional sense. So, institutional progress is [slow]. Other than that the society, the business community and international parties are changing the Chinese traditional life in big ways. So, that is happening really in big ways here. For example, in coastal China in many regions such as Zhejian province, and Jiangsu province neighboring Shanghai, the private sector takes over up to 70% of the local economies. So, government power is [receding] tremendously. [14:06]

JIM : Now, in your book you talk about what makes a lot of this possible today is the emergence of multinationals, which you describe as the modern-day Columbus?and Magellans. And China, to the multinational company is really the world's last frontier.

GEORGE : That is true. Right now, we have basically everybody in China from the multinational group. They are active in all aspects of the business sphere, especially autos. They dominate China's auto market. They are also major players in the mobile phone business, in high tech, in semiconductors. For example, right now, about 20% of the global semiconductor market is in China. So, regardless of which US semiconductor shares you hold, you are investing in China already because 20% of the sales are to China. [15:13]

JIM : George, what makes China attractive to multinationals ?

GEORGE : Basically, there are several reasons. Number one, there is tremendous consumption growth, also better profit margins. Number three, there is a relaxed business environment and sometimes in very odd ways. For example, China does not have Western type labor unions, so employers have plenty of choices in terms of their power over their employee body. And employees dont have any bargaining chips. That is also a factor. Another factor is the many incentives given by the government such as tax incentives and other privileges. And number three is quick growth for the multinationals which are already playing here, therefore they force their competition to come. For example, all the telecom manufacturing operators are in China. Last year, Nokia did about US$6.9 billion in business in China ; FedEx did even more, about $9 billion in sales in China. Then you also have a lot of other guys - their competition - also the new players coming in, especially in high tech. Therefore, all of them have become the most significant players in China. They have to be here, because right now up to 30% of their sales come from China, directly or indirectly. [17:06]

JIM : Now, in May of 2003 the Chinese government allowed 2 investment banks, Nomura and UBS to trade in the Chinese stock market. George is this a sign of things to come, and initially why only two companies ?

GEORGE : Basically, the Chinese government has a law qualifying foreign institutional investors to play in the domestic market. Initially, they gave about a US$4 billion allowance and you have to go through the selection process. So, in order to attract competition from foreign money managers so every month they gave permits to a couple of players, that抯 how Nomura and UBS got the first tickets, but we抮e seeing during the last year and a half about 27 UBS competitors such as Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan all got [permission]. So far, they have invested about $4 billion, now they are putting an additional $6 billion (US) into China's domestic stock market. So, that's what's happening. [18:26]

JIM : I wonder if you might explain how the development of China has become the global manufacturing center has been more of, let's say, a move by demand than by design.

GEORGE : Yes, that is one of the biggest Chinese growth stories, and nobody expected this to happen 25 years ago. It has come to life more by accident than by design. The initial stage was really a shift to meeting consumer demand for home appliances and electronics. At that time China did not have anything to manufacture on its own. It shared a lot of TV sets from Europe, Japan, and South Korea directly. But those TV sets had high price tags on them. You are talking about the average Chinese family having to spend up to 10 years of their savings to buy a TV set. This huge profit margin prompted tremendous domestic investment. Immediately, we are talking about several hundred Chinese TV manufacturers emerging by the mid 1980s. The same thing can be said of other areas of consumer products. The demand was tremendous, that抯 because for most of the time China had a tremendous goods shortage for about 3 decades. There was nothing on the shelves. If you wanted to buy a pair of shoes you might have to wait or if you bought a bicycle you needed to find a friend to help you get one. So, there was a tremendous shortage meeting this huge consumer demand which therefore gave birth to the initial setting up of new manufacturing. Once this new manufacturing was set up, then they had to buy all sorts of components and chips. At that time, China couldn't manufacture them itself, therefore it had to buy them from the overseas market, such as from Intel, Texas Instruments, and IBM, and Motorola. Therefore those international multinationals made huge profits sending their components and chips to China. Later they found out that they had better set up manufacturing facilities within China in order to make better profits. That's initially how they came 25 years ago. So they were brought by the tremendous profit picture, and immediate business transactions.

Later on, Intel and Texas Instruments?competition all rushed in. The same thing is true for all other economic sectors. So competition brought more and more multinationals to China. Of course, these multinationals have more economic muscle, they can manufacture almost anything, therefore they have helped to directly expand the growth of China as a manufacturing center. Later on, the Chinese [had] learned a lot from these multinationals, they started manufacturing key components and software and also chips. So, more competition was arriving from every party, but the market is still expanding, therefore the bigger pie is attracting more players to rush in. Therefore we see the emergence of China as a manufacturing center.

We抮e also talking about other areas of improvement to facilitate this growth as a manufacturing center. Number one is infrastructure. So, China has become the number two energy market on a global basis. It has built the most power stations over the last 25 years, also roads, ports, as well as the service sector. For example, all the major global shipping companies and express companies are all in China. For example, Federal Express, UPS, and all their competitors are in China. Therefore, China through all such activities has gained all the key elements to build a major global manufacturing center. It came as an accident but by now, it has brought on a rush by everyone else behind. So we might expect a quicker development for services to add to this new manufacturing center. At this time, this manufacturing center is able to produce at low cost as well as efficiently almost all sorts of products, this is the biggest change for China's economy, as well as for the global economy. [23:50]

JIM : George, there are other places in the world where the labor pool is much cheaper. For example, India and there are other countries. Is it China's sense of business or its entrepreneurial shift which distinguishes China from the other places in the world ?

GEORGE : Yes, I would say that it's China's overall strength that makes China a new business center. If you compare India and China you will see that India抯 labor market is cheaper - about 50% cheaper - than China抯. But India's development is more in the service sector, especially for software consulting and outsourcing. But China's manufacturing [has advantages over the] Indian one in many aspects. This is because China has built up a complete business chain, for example, India does not have an effective manufacturing base at all. It lacks key component suppliers, it does not have the logistics, it does not have the infrastructure, but China, over the last 26 years has gotten all of them in one place. For example, in consumer electronics you can set up your shop in Guangdong, then you get more than 10,000 component makers. For example, Sony alone has more than [3,000] China based component makers. Here, you need to know that these component makers come from both Chinese companies and multinationals. So, Sony's 3,000 come from the Chinese, the Japanese, Koreans and Europeans, and American suppliers, always in China - actually, in one province. That's the kind of effectiveness and efficiency China has, but in India, and even in Europe you dont have that kind of advantage.

Another advantage is the low price [gap]. These companies rely on cheap labor as well as mass production which can give you the best price, and also delivery at the best time, or any time. Therefore it gives Chinese manufacturing a lot of advantages. This is something India, and many other countries, dont have. To build up this we are talking maybe about a trillion dollar investment plus all the key players - we aare talking about tens of thousands there from all business sectors. That's difficult to attract all the elements into one place, within such a short time. Therefore, I call this Chinese manufacturing center an accident rather design. But it is now entering a new phase - with a lot of powerful players and a lot of design coming into play.

Citizen of the post-American world:

Beijing Paralympic Games opening ceremony, a splendor!

China bashers could not, did not, and therefore needed not watch, as they would likely not have appreciated. -- It was all fake anyway.

Moving right along...

Anonymous:

Dear Chen,

I am a Chinese, but I disagree with your understanding of Olympic, so what we have 51 gold, what that means? that we Chinese doing better than American? that average Chinese is healthier than American?
Do not forget our sport system is centralized government run business, but in US is individual business, and many other country's Olympians are the residents of US and trained in US.

Sport is about friendship, not a competition, and # does not mean anything.

Stop using sport as national pride as the Americans see themselves, for we are better than American.

What is success to us is that we accomplish the dream of host Olympic in Beijing, and 204 countries are in China for the purpose of friendship, and US media cannot influence their people that Chinese are like their government, they now changed their view about China, Chinese government, and common Chinese. And those China Bashers understand that Chinese are more welcoming and friendly person as they never have imagined.

Which is a good start, for the world, especially common American to eventually know more about China, to switch their view of enemy relation toward China to cooperator and competitor.

Now the world is globe, not as flat as the past, so every nation and person need to learn to live and coop with each other, people need to stop paint others to devil and themselves good, especially Americans, that they are educated to think themselves as the good, and others enemy, when erath spins to 21 century, many American still fighting Hilter, Nazi, and waging cold war.

While Chinese try every way to US to also have share of American Dream, that is not too convincing as before.

American and Chinese, we all need a change, need to change, and that change is thru a friendly communication that involving not calling names nor yelling at each other as American's term of free speech and democracy.

And China and Chinese also see the world thru their Athletes that how other people live and compete in peace and truth, as gentlemen competition that Confucius talked about.

As Confucius said: "Gentlemen disagree but conduct in peace; but commons must make others to agree even if it brings conflict."

And hosting Olympic is the best bridge for Chinese the whole world, I know some of stupid Chinese think it as national pride, and some dumb and rude American use this to bash Chinese, they all miss the target. Especially by medal count.

I can't believe there so many idiot American and Chinese, maybe both country should fix their education system, then to solve their political and world issues.

::

The paralympic flame is lighted in the Bird's Nest Stadium.

Chen:

NEWS FLASH TO ALL RACIST WESTERN IMPERIALISTS:

CHINA: 51 GOLD

SeeThtoughThoseRiciculousLiars:

Anonymous:

The Chinese government is reported to have sent thousands of soldiers and police to quell unrest in the central province of Hunan.

Up to 10,000 people took to the streets in Jishou to demand money back from an allegedly fraudulent fundraising firm, a Hong Kong-based rights group said.

In another protest in the eastern port of Ningbo, 10,000 workers clashed with police, the group added.

Social unrest is common in China, but rarely on this scale.
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Hehe,the Chinese government just send 1.3 billion soldiers to kill 1.3 billion Chinese citizen!!!

Social unrest is common in China, but rarely on this scale.!!!!! :-o.

Tibetan have been murdered from 1 billion population to 20,000 nowadays.According to Human Right Watcth in New York,most of Tibetan living in Tibet are actually Han Chinese but they still use ethnic status of Tibetan to gain advantage in Chinese government's policy.

Anonymous:

国足欢迎你
我家球门常打开
要进几个随你
交锋过后就有了底
你会爱上这里
  
不管远近都是客人
请不用客气
进的少了别在意
下次补给你
  
我家住着谢亚龙
书写每段传奇
不懂足球不要紧
仕途才是第一
陌生熟悉都是客人
请不用距离
谢主席他很热情
场场督战陪你
  
国足欢迎你
为你开天辟地
再不济的实力
也能找信心
  
国足欢迎你
在主场上分享平局
哪怕你世界排名垫底
  
我家球门常打开
开怀容纳天地
一个两个不算稀奇
再多也输得起
  
天大地大都是朋友
请不用客气
场上梦游是惯例
场下才牛B
 
国足欢迎你
用净剩球感动你
你们捞足积分
我们来出局
  
国足欢迎你
遇到中国就是福气
业余联队一样能晋级
Here’s a translation that a friend sent me, though I’m not sure if it’s for this same version:
Wide open our country’s goal,
As many you can score
After the game you know
Playing with us, you’ll love
Near or far, all guests you are
Make yourself at home
Never mind scoring too few
Next time come all over
Super hero Mr Xie,
A miracle creator.
Dumb and stupid as he is
Bossiness’s his wonder
New or old, no distance to hold
Guest you’ll always be
Mr Xie feels sorry for you
To see him all around
Welcome to play
And make your history
you’ll always be the better team,
When with us you meet
Welcome to play
And you may score as you wish
Even if last you rank
In the world of soccer
Wide open our country’s goal,
Welcome all the globe
Never just take one or two
We can offer more
Our friends around the globe
Please be our guests
On the field in dream we walk
Super duckers when we’re off
Welcome to play
More goals we always gave
3 points you may take
Dumber history we will make

http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2008/08/14/chinese-soccer-team-welcomes-you/

Please go see the video, and let's hate the China Soccer Men together!

---------------------------------------------------------

Arjantin’in La Plata kenti yakınlarındaki bir banliyöde yaşayan Fabio Anze adlı bir çiftçi, geçen perşembe günü köpeğinin kulübesinden bebek ağlaması sesi geldiğini fark etti. Yeni doğum yapmış olan köpeği La China’nın kulübesine giden Anze, yavru köpeklerin arasında bir kız bebeğin yattığını gördü.
Köpeğin sahibi, çıplak haldeki bebeğin üzerinin bir bez parçasıyla örtülmüş olduğunu söyledi.
Çiftçinin polisi araması üzerine bebek, yetkililere teslim edilirken, 14 yaşındaki anne de bulundu. İsmi açıklanmayan küçük anne, doğum yapınca paniğe kapılarak bebeğini tarlaya bıraktığını söyledi.
Kış mevsiminin yaşandığı Arjantin’de bebeğin tarlada kalması halinde yaşama şansının olmadığı, köpeğin bebeği 50 metre uzaklıktaki kulübesine götürerek hayatını kurtardığı belirtildi. Bebeğin, yavru köpeklerin arasında sıcak tutulduğu ve vücudundaki birkaç çürüğün dışında bir sağlık sorununun olmadığı kaydedildi.

Roma benzetmesi
Olayın ortaya çıkması üzerine Arjantin medyası kente akın etti. La China’nın kurtardığı bebek “mucize bebek” olarak anılmaya başlandı. Arjantin basını olayı, Roma’nın kuruluş efsanesinde geçen “Romulus ve Remus”un bir kurt tarafından kurtarılması hikayesine benzetti. La China’nınsa medyanın ilgisi yüzünden ürktüğü ve yemek yemeyi bıraktığı belirtildi.

Anonymous:

http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2008/08/14/chinese-soccer-team-welcomes-you/

国足欢迎你
我家球门常打开
要进几个随你
交锋过后就有了底
你会爱上这里
  
不管远近都是客人
请不用客气
进的少了别在意
下次补给你
  
我家住着谢亚龙
书写每段传奇
不懂足球不要紧
仕途才是第一
陌生熟悉都是客人
请不用距离
谢主席他很热情
场场督战陪你
  
国足欢迎你
为你开天辟地
再不济的实力
也能找信心
  
国足欢迎你
在主场上分享平局
哪怕你世界排名垫底
  
我家球门常打开
开怀容纳天地
一个两个不算稀奇
再多也输得起
  
天大地大都是朋友
请不用客气
场上梦游是惯例
场下才牛B
 
国足欢迎你
用净剩球感动你
你们捞足积分
我们来出局
  
国足欢迎你
遇到中国就是福气
业余联队一样能晋级
Here’s a translation that a friend sent me, though I’m not sure if it’s for this same version:
Wide open our country’s goal,
As many you can score
After the game you know
Playing with us, you’ll love
Near or far, all guests you are
Make yourself at home
Never mind scoring too few
Next time come all over
Super hero Mr Xie,
A miracle creator.
Dumb and stupid as he is
Bossiness’s his wonder
New or old, no distance to hold
Guest you’ll always be
Mr Xie feels sorry for you
To see him all around
Welcome to play
And make your history
you’ll always be the better team,
When with us you meet
Welcome to play
And you may score as you wish
Even if last you rank
In the world of soccer
Wide open our country’s goal,
Welcome all the globe
Never just take one or two
We can offer more
Our friends around the globe
Please be our guests
On the field in dream we walk
Super duckers when we’re off
Welcome to play
More goals we always gave
3 points you may take
Dumber history we will make

http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2008/08/14/chinese-soccer-team-welcomes-you/

Please go see the video, and let's hate the China Soccer Men together!

Anonymous:

The Goal China Can't Reach

By Xu Guoqi
Sunday, July 27, 2008; B01

BEIJING My country is about to host the world's greatest sporting event and, we hope, claim a truckload of Olympic gold. But to hundreds of millions of Chinese, our widely anticipated bonanza of medals will mean very little. The real metric by which China judges itself against the rest of the world isn't the discus or the decathlon. It's not even our record-breaking economic growth rate or our postmodern skylines. It's soccer. And when it comes to our beloved sport, China is not just the sick man of Asia. It's the sick man of the world.

Our soccer tragedy is epic. Since the late 1970s, when China resumed international play after decades of self-imposed isolation, our national men's team has made it to the World Cup only once, in 2002. On June 14, we lost a qualifying match to Iraq, of all countries, thereby shattering our hopes of entering the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. The rising superpower had been beaten by a failed state.

Such losses have not only plunged many Chinese into the sort of depression that only a Chicago Cubs fan could understand. They have also prompted doubts about Chinese manhood, undermined the country's vaunted can-do spirit and sparked agonized questions about our politics, culture and society -- even about what it means to be Chinese. For the regime in Beijing, success at the Olympics may demonstrate China's superiority, but for the country's long-suffering soccer fans, the only real yardstick of greatness is a victory in the World Cup. About 700 million Chinese watched the 2006 World Cup. They weren't happy.

In fact, soccer and China can make a pretty explosive combination. This beautiful game has an amazing ability to rattle the collective consciousness of 1.3 billion people. After the Chinese team's June defeat at the hands of the admittedly impressive Iraqi squad, China's Internet and state-run media erupted in howls of frustration, anger and self-doubt. One popular ditty called 2008 an unsettling, unusual year, with devastating snow storms that ruined the Spring Festival and the deadly earthquake that made people nervous about simply staying home. But one thing remained constant, according to the ditty: "At the crucial moment, China's men's soccer team stood up and proved to the world that nothing ever changes: It lost!"

After the defeat, a newspaper in the northeastern city of Changchun ran only a large, bold, black headline: "The National Soccer Team Lost Again. We Have Nothing To Say." No text followed the headline -- something I have never heard of in the history of communist China's press.

Our ongoing soccer misery highlights a basic paradox about today's China. On the surface, we seem to be feeling pretty ebullient, with our fast-growing economy, our newfound wealth and our showcase Olympics, with their peppy theme of "One World, One Dream." We're confident that the future belongs to us. But on a deeper level, many Chinese -- especially we men -- are unhappy, deeply frustrated and prone to strong, deep-rooted pangs of helplessness and abandonment. And it's all soccer's fault.

Well, not all. Readers may wonder why a people with so much going for them can be laid so low by a game. At root, it's because we Chinese want "face" -- not just from one another, but from the whole world. Chinese, especially boys, are brought up to believe that China is exceptional. (You Americans should be able to relate.) But we're not satisfied simply with believing this ourselves; we want others to believe that we're a great nation, too.

That's where soccer comes in.

The World Cup strikes Chinese as the most meritocratic, the most (gasp!) democratic, of competitions. Every nation, rich or poor, strong or small, has a real shot at winning. No country or regime, regardless of its wealth or power, can manufacture a victory the way that, say, East Germany used to during those dreary Cold War-era Olympic Games. On the soccer field, China is forced to test itself against the family of nations. It's social Darwinism as sport.

No wonder millions of Chinese fans link soccer to their national sense of honor. But when your team just isn't very good, that linkage between nationalism and sport can mean tumult and even tragedy. Think back to May 19, 1985, when Hong Kong and China faced off in Beijing. Had China won, it might have gone on to the 1986 World Cup in Mexico. The team was heavily favored, and nearly 80,000 fans eagerly poured into the Workers' Stadium to watch the long-awaited triumph.

China, of course, lost.

This defeat was particularly humiliating: Proud, anti-imperialist China had lost to a team representing a British colony. Inside the stadium, angry fans lobbed glass bottles and smashed seats; outside, they torched buses, burned cars with plates from foreign embassies and damaged buildings. More than 2,000 police were dispatched, and at least 127 people were arrested. The Team China players had to be rescued from their supposed worshipers. And even after the players had safely returned to their residential compound, angry fans surrounded the building -- shouting and singing, with tears in their eyes, the Internationale's call for the world's suffering masses to rise up. China's National Sports Commission called the riot "damaging to China's national dignity." The national soccer team issued a public apology for blowing it, and head coach Zeng Xuelin was forced to resign.

Think this couldn't happen again? Flash forward to 2004 and the Asia Cup championship match between Japan and China, also in Workers' Stadium. Chinese fans sang an old anti-Japanese song and yelled: "Kill! Kill! Kill!" When the Japanese team -- predictably -- won, Chinese fans exploded. They torched Japanese flags and spat at Japanese fans. The chaos left both countries rattled and spurred a debate about sports and nationalism.

Part of the reason for China's tragic passion for soccer is that we believe we invented it, along with many other great gifts to humanity. One man in the Song Dynasty (960-1279) is said to have played soccer so well that he was eventually appointed prime minister. In the 1920s and '30s, China routinely fielded one of Asia's best teams. Japan may have been able to bully China militarily in the 1930s, but China was busily routing it in soccer. One brilliant Chinese shooter, Li Huitang, was even called "the soccer king of Asia."

That seems an awfully long time ago, though. The main bright spot today for Chinese soccer is the national women's team, our "Iron Roses," who have done extremely well, even winning a world championship in the 1990s. But this only makes matters worse for the country's pouting men. If the Chinese could win and prove their manhood in the 1930s, why can't we do it now? And why are China's men less impressive on the field than its women?

Some pundits have pontificated that we're going through an era of yin, or femininity, and have wondered what's gone wrong with our yang. Others maintain the problem is that only a small percentage of China's massive population actually plays sports. (Even more than you Americans, we are a nation of Monday-morning quarterbacks.) Others have tried to use our national soccer crisis as a rallying point for change. To make soccer better, we're told, we need the rule of law, more transparency, radical changes and widespread reforms. The underlying problem, they say, is that Chinese soccer is still ultimately controlled by the hidebound Communist Party. Others point to corruption: It's not just that many of our referees are bent, they argue, but that some of our players make the notorious 1919 "Black Sox" look like wide-eyed schoolboys. Then there are the supposed experts who insist that Chinese culture itself is to blame. On the surface, they argue, we look like great team players -- consider our dams, our irrigation systems, our Great Wall -- but in practice, today's fast-growing China has turned its back on communal values. These days, everybody wants to be the boss, and nobody wants to be the goalie.

I'm not persuaded by any of these explanations, but I'm intrigued by all of them. Our raw, unruly and wild feelings about our prowess at soccer, I think, have become something of a metaphor for the way we view our place at the world's table. Are we respected? Are we truly welcome? And above all: Are we a great power or just a middling one? As one Chinese Netizen posted, somewhat ungrammatically: "Now, you touched the Chinese's softest and most sensitive part."

gxu@kzoo.edu

Xu Guoqi is the author of "Olympic Dreams: China and Sports, 1895-2008." He teaches history at Kalamazoo College.

John,

Why couldn't you write some constructive critical piece like above? So to draw Chinese and the rest of world together?

Anonymous:

The Chinese government is reported to have sent thousands of soldiers and police to quell unrest in the central province of Hunan.

Up to 10,000 people took to the streets in Jishou to demand money back from an allegedly fraudulent fundraising firm, a Hong Kong-based rights group said.

In another protest in the eastern port of Ningbo, 10,000 workers clashed with police, the group added.

Social unrest is common in China, but rarely on this scale.

Confronting police

The Hong Kong-based Information Centre for Human Rights and Democracy said that, in both protests, violent clashes erupted between angry crowds and local authorities.

In Jishou 50 people were injured in rioting, and police arrested 20 people, the group said.

According to Xinhua news agency, the protesters blocked roads and trains to demand that the government take action after a fundraising company "failed to pay them back as promised".

The Jishou government admitted in a statement that armed police were drafted in to disperse the crowds, but did not mention if anyone was hurt.

In the second incident, thousands of migrant workers confronted police in Ningbo to protest about the injury of a man in a local factory.

The protests are the latest in a series of confrontations over social issues in China - many of which stem from grievances over alleged corruption and local authorities' abuse of power.

In June, thousands of people rioted in Guizhou province over claims that police had covered up the rape and murder of a girl.

Anonymous:

Democrat:
(Xinhua) -- U.S. Republican presidential hopeful John McCain welcomes "the emergence of a peaceful and prosperous China" and supports the notion of "stakeholder", his aide said Wednesday.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-09/04/content_9768458.htm
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republicans licking chinese a-r-se? nothing new until now..

Anonymous:

Ak-47 is Russian, OK.
Without Russian weapon, how could those poor people defend themselves from US Made high tech weapons, and US marching liberty and freedom scheme for foreign oil strategy?

--------------------------

No, you piece of dumb BS.
Type 56 and Type 81 assault rifles were and are a chinese asault rifle. And how dare you to call those blody killers a freedom fighters, you piece of horse crap?

Anonymous:

五星红旗迎风飘扬,
胜利歌声多么响亮,
歌唱我们亲爱的祖国,
从此走向繁荣富强!
我们勤劳,我们勇敢,
挎过奔腾的黄河长江,
伟大的祖國中國直奔着前进的方向,
英雄的人民站起来了,
我们团结友爱坚强如刚!
熱血赤子烝烝驕陽﹐
我們歌聲多么嘹亮﹐
讚美我们亲爱的祖国,
獨立自主扶民安邦!
我們機智﹐我們堅強﹐
搓破美帝的玩癖伎倆﹐
廣闊美麗的土地是我們親愛的家鄉﹐
偉大的中國站起来了﹐
從此世界得到和平安康。


Kdyby Sherlock Holmes nežil na Baker Street v Londýně, ale v olympijském Pekingu, možná by byla jedna z největších politologických záhad historie rozluštěna. A to: proč navzdory předpovědím odborníků neprovází zázračný ekonomický růst Číny zároveň rozvoj demokracie.
Bohatý podnikatel Ju Ťing-šun se postavil před obyvatele vesnice Chua-si v prosperující pobřežní provincii Čeťiang (rozprostírá se jižně od Šanghaje) a slíbil jim, že když ho zvolí starostou, vybuduje za svoje peníze novou kanalizaci. Psal se rok 2002. Vyhrál jednoznačně. Nad kandidátem všemocné komunistické strany.

Podobná situace se opakovala v Če-ťiangu v posledních letech ještě mnohokrát. Například jistý Jang Pao-wej v Šang-jang zase nabídl, že bude za rolníky platit daně. Vyhrál samozřejmě také. Že by konečně důkaz o postupném hroucení monopolu jedné strany? Kdepak. To jen úspěšní kapitalisté na své periferii předložili "nabídku k spoluvládnutí". Politické cíle v tom nebyly - jen ekonomické.

Příkladů skutečného boje s režimem je v říši středu daleko méně. I když oficiální statistika přiznává za minulý rok v Číně 87 tisíc nejrůznějších protestů a demonstrací. Číslo je to sice obrovské, ale žádnou podstatnou revoluci zatím nevyvolává.

Většinou šlo o protesty zemědělců či dalších obyvatel vesnic a měst kvůli zabírání jejich půdy a nucenému přestěhování vzhledem k nové výstavbě. Na několika místech došlo k lokálním odporům proti naprosté zkorumpovanosti a bezostyšnosti místních vládců. To je problém, ze kterého má velký bolehlav i jinak silná pekingská vláda - ta, která dokáže celkem spolehlivě ovlivňovat dění ve světě. I na základě těchto protestů bylo v říjnu 2007 oznámeno, že vládnoucí komunisté chtějí zahájit uvnitř strany "demokratizaci". Co to znamená?

Že by se snad totalitní čínský ledovec začínal drolit na kusy? Odpověď zní: Ano i ne.

Jiná, než se zdá
Svět totiž vidí Čínu poněkud jinak, než jak vypadá zevnitř.

Jistěže je správná solidarita mezinárodního společenství s Tibeťany, kteří se nikdy nesmíří s čínskou okupací. Jenže tibetský národ o politickém osudu asijské supervelmoci nerozhodne. Podle jeho přání se nic řídit nebude. Tibetská lobby je velmi silná, dalajlamovo kázání o nenásilném odporu proti Číňanům přitažlivé, ale s rozvojem demokracie nemá a nebude mít v Číně nic moc společného.

Na rozdíl od problémů Tibetu, zná snad někdo z Čechů jméno Jang Chun-lin? Jde přitom o významného bojovníka za práva na užívání pozemků. Nebo další jména: Wang Ling a Jie Kuo-ču? Ti zase upozorňují na případy demolování domů a nucené přestěhování. Většina světa je ignoruje, přestože tito lidé končí ve vězení a jejich rodiny jsou terorizovány.

Možná, že jméno blogera Chu Ťia někdo zaslechl i u nás, protože díky internetu se z něj stala "celebrita". Upozorňuje na problém šíření AIDS v Číně. I jemu bylo odměnou vězení.

Rychlé změny nečekejme
Na první pohled by tedy vše s rozvojem demokracie mohlo v Číně vypadat bezútěšně. Není to pravda.

Změnu ledového a pomalého tempa k větší svobodě občanů, k dodržování lidských práv a směrem k demokracii však ani v nejbližších letech nečekejme. Stejně tak nečekejme, že by se proces čínské demokratizace změnil z poklusu v cval a že se potůčky nesouhlasu s režimem změní v moře, které by současnou vládu smetlo.

Krok za krokem se však situace mění.

Jeden příklad za všechny. Jihočínské město Šen-čen (sousedí s Hongkongem) je už třicet let vydáváno za příklad ekonomického úspěchu, které jdou správným směrem. Teď jeho komunističtí pohlaváři přišli s neobvyklým návrhem. Neobvyklým na čínské poměry. Od roku 2011 by se starosta Šen-čenu mohl vybírat z několika kandidátů a volili by ho občané. Zárodek možné demokracie? Opět ano i ne. Kandidáty si mezi "svými" vybere a schválí vládnoucí strana, ale vznikne alespoň zdání jakési konkurence. Pro Západ věc nedostatečná, ale pro čínskou společnost přece jenom nová.

V Číně je s politikou spojeno vše. Kupříkladu ještě před deseti lety museli lidé na mnoha místech žádat tajemníka strany, zda se smějí vdát či oženit. Dnes miliony Číňanů volně cestují či studují v zahraničí. Co se týče soudnictví, můžeme nalézt snahy o větší nezávislost a o zmírňování rozsudků, v nichž je udělován trest smrti.

Diktatura, demokracie, sport
"Je však diktatura zárukou stability a změn? Zahledíme-li se dál než na posledních patnáct let (poněkud krátký úsek, než abychom mohli na jeho základě zbudovat nějakou ,teorii‘), je to právě naopak," píše ve své knize Čínské století Federico Rampini, dlouholetý pekingský dopisovatel italského listu La Repubblica.

A téma diktatura, demokracie a sport bylo nastoleno právě v souvislosti s olympijskými hrami, které byly včera zahájeny v Pekingu.

Mnozí, včetně tibetského dalajlamy Tändzina Gjamccha, doufali, že přidělení her Pekingu (Mezinárodní olympijský výbor o nich rozhodl v červenci 2001) donutí čínskou vládu k větším politickým změnám.

Jenže olympiáda byla využita spíše k tomu, aby Peking sám sebe (za souhlasného pokyvování západních politiků a firem) zařadil na čelné místo v globální politické Premier League. A aby se jeho falešné vyprávění o "harmonické společnosti" dostalo do světa v lepším světle. Naopak se vůbec nepodařilo naplnit takzvanou teorii "měkké moci". Čínské zájmy a vliv jsou sice ve světě nadále prosazovány pomocí ekonomiky a vzrůstající vojenské síly, ale přitažlivost idejí a myšlenek, které se snaží Peking exportovat, selhává.

"Jenže olympijský džin byl vypuštěn z lahve a už ho nikdy nikdo nedostane zpátky," tvrdí Brit Mark Leonard, ředitel Evropské rady pro zahraniční vztahy a autor knihy Co si Čína myslí? Leonard naráží na to, že se Čína díky olympiádě stala mnohem důležitější součástí globální myšlenkové soutěže. To by mohlo mít v budoucnosti vliv na demokratizaci státu i na případnou změnu režimu. Leonard poukazuje na to, že v Číně je dnes 255 milionů uživatelů internetu, z toho 50 milionů blogerů. Přestože jsou některé webové stránky blokovány, zažívá Čína díky moderním technologiím (i za přispění televize a mobilů) nepoznanou explozi výměny informací.

Jak by se ale zeptal Sherlock Holmes: Cui bono? Komu to prospěje?

Odpověď hledejme v čínských dějinách. Z nich je spíše jasné, komu by demokracie v říši středu neprospěla. Při studiu dynastií Tchang, Sung, Ming a Čching se ukazuje, že nikde na světě nevládla tak nepočetná skupina takovému množství lidí po tak dlouhou dobu. Dnes je situace stejná. Autokratické kruté vládce s císařským dvorem vystřídala jen o něco méně krutá komunistická strana. Ta si udržuje monopol pomocí armády byrokratů, silových složek a za tichého souhlasu těch, které nechala v posledních třiceti letech zbohatnout.

Jak říkal Teng Siao-pching (1904-1997), vůdce, který zahájil modernizaci Číny v 70. letech minulého století: "Bohatnout je krásné."

Většina Číňanů se skutečně rozhodla - zatím - bohatnout bez svobody a demokracie. V Matrixu se značkou Made in China. Jen na rozdíl od slavného filmu ovládá tento systém lidi žijící ve skutečném, ne virtuálním světě.

Anonymous:

五星红旗迎风飘扬,
胜利歌声多么响亮,
歌唱我们亲爱的祖国,
从此走向繁荣富强!
我们勤劳,我们勇敢,
挎过奔腾的黄河长江,
伟大的祖國中國直奔着前进的方向,
英雄的人民站起来了,
我们团结友爱坚强如刚!
熱血赤子烝烝驕陽﹐
我們歌聲多么嘹亮﹐
讚美我们亲爱的祖国,
獨立自主扶民安邦!
我們機智﹐我們堅強﹐
搓破美帝的玩癖伎倆﹐
廣闊美麗的土地是我們親愛的家鄉﹐
偉大的中國站起来了﹐
從此世界得到和平安康。

Anonymous:

Anonymous:

only a true leader knows that blessing his neighbor with peace and friendship is a good fortune for him;
no one likes those who break other's house and cause disturbances with their scheme.
China does not support Bin Laden; but US gives money to Chinese separatists.
Maybe the changes are coming.

---------------------------------------------

----Yeahhh.. sure.. thats why all taliban have chinese weapons. Sudan islamist have chinese weapons and somali islamists have chinese weapons. Kashmir islamists have chinese weapons and iranian dshihadists have chinese weapons..----

Ak-47 is Russian, OK.
Without Russian weapon, how could those poor people defend themselves from US Made high tech weapons, and US marching liberty and freedom scheme for foreign oil strategy?

Anonymous:

only a true leader knows that blessing his neighbor with peace and friendship is a good fortune for him;
no one likes those who break other's house and cause disturbances with their scheme.
China does not support Bin Laden; but US gives money to Chinese separatists.
Maybe the changes are coming.

---------------------------------------------

Yeahhh.. sure.. thats why all taliban have chinese weapons. Sudan islamist have chinese weapons and somali islamists have chinese weapons. Kashmir islamists have chinese weapons and iranian dshihadists have chinese weapons..

Anonymous:

Posted on September 4, 2008 19:27

Anonymous:
To Anonymous:

Chen:
51 GOLD....ENOUGH SAID!!!
----------------------------------

LOL... The pain in your a_r_s_e must be realy big.

---aside that EU has still more medals as everyone else.----

Is EU a country? or a Nation? Maybe your definition is the same as Hitler, who tried to set EU Nation:)
How about you use one of your other 'common senses',
that White people have more gold than Chinese?:)

Heil Anonymous!


---------------------------------------------


WHAHAHAHAHAHA.. BUTHURT LOSER!

AND EU STILL HAS MORE MEDALS AS EVERYONE ELSE..

Anonymous:

only a true leader knows that blessing his neighbor with peace and friendship is a good fortune for him;
no one likes those who break other's house and cause disturbances with their scheme.
China does not support Bin Laden; but US gives money to Chinese separatists.
Maybe the changes are coming.

Democrat:

(Xinhua) -- U.S. Republican presidential hopeful John McCain welcomes "the emergence of a peaceful and prosperous China" and supports the notion of "stakeholder", his aide said Wednesday.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-09/04/content_9768458.htm

Chen:

SUCCESS!!!!

51 GOLD!!!

PSYCH!!!!

Anonymous:

Parable about Freedom

A boy was using a remote control to fly his brand new toy, a small metal airplane, that soaring around a flag post. And the toy airplane saw a kite flying above it, so it said to the kite: “Poor you, that tied to a hand and blown by the wind. Look at me, no strain is tied to my body and I circle freely.”
And there came strong wind, blew the kite into the cloud. And kite answered: “But I can reach higher sky and see bigger world, even though I was tied to a string.”
While they were arguing, they heard laughing below them. There was a butterfly dancing among the flowers and he said to them: “Look at me, no man programs me, no one controls me, and my body is not tied to a string. I’m truly flying freely.”
Suddenly the butterfly caught on a spider web and was eaten by a big spider.
So they saw the tragedy of the butterfly, both laughed.
Suddenly there was lightning strike, hit the kite, and it was caught on fire, burnt to ashes.
So the airplane saw what happened, and felt pity for the kite and butterfly.
Suddenly it crashed to the flag post and fell on the ground in pieces.
The boy ran to it, examined and knew he could never get it fixed, so sadly went home without gathering the pieces. He skipped his dinner and fell asleep. At night, a lightning stoke his house and started fire…
And in the morning, he saw his metal airplane soaring without remote control, the kite flying without a string, and the butterfly dancing through the web. So he smiled like Dalai Lama in nirvana.
Still, the lightning thunders in my mind, he said: “What you know about freedom?!”

And John,

What you mean 'So, Did the Olympics Succeed?'
What is your definition of success?:)

свобода слова:

Poor design blamed for school woes in May quake

"Government critics have raised questions about shoddy construction after the 7.9-magnitude quake killed nearly 70,000 people in Sichuan province, including many students crushed to death when their classrooms crumbled."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gBr_dOzJ9Pnc_U9gSgtTgE-cR-KwD9302UL01

LOLs:

Anonymous:

Chen:
51 GOLD....ENOUGH SAID!!!
----------------------------------

LOL... The pain in your a_r_s_e must be realy big.

aside that EU has still more medals as everyone else.
====================================
We are proud of our athlete's performance.Who's country are you proud of? EU? It cannot even be referred to a country.I hear German count their own medal,French,British do so and so on. But it is refreshing to hear an Eastern Turkic Empire's idiot here count total medals of EU and boast of it!!!! Should you count medal of Euro-America?? I can imagine you will. You are so sour-grape eater.

Anyway,we feel no necessary to argue with this to get a fame about this issue.

Anonymous:

To Anonymous:

Chen:
51 GOLD....ENOUGH SAID!!!
----------------------------------

LOL... The pain in your a_r_s_e must be realy big.

---aside that EU has still more medals as everyone else.----

Is EU a country? or a Nation? Maybe your definition is the same as Hitler, who tried to set EU Nation:)
How about you use one of your other 'common senses',
that White people have more gold than Chinese?:)

Heil Anonymous!

@fools:

10 years from now, Dalai Lama, the hypocrite will die of old age in exile and CIA will lose one of their stoogies.Within another 50 years, Tibet will become an ecomonic powerhouse with GDP bigger than India. Tibetans living in their homeland will hire Tibetans living in India as day laborer and then ship them back to refugee camp on the Indian side at night. Another generation past, nobody will remember who the 14th Dalai Lama was and why he let himself be used by CIA.

Anonymous:

While invading Russian tanks lumbered into Georgia last month, crowds in Beijing were pouring into Olympic venues in a globally-televised show of international engagement.

Now, the contrasting images may yield a diplomatic boon for China, one that could bring real advantages in its rise to global prominence. While both Russia and China rank as newly assertive global giants, China — even with its surging foreign trade, booming military spending, and growing international reach — looks practically benign compared to an angry, aggressive Russia, experts say.

"You can't help noting the imagery," said Lo Bobo, director of Russia and China programs at the Center for European Reform in London. "It seems to be a contrast that works in China's favor," Lo said.

China could certainly use the boost. Fears over its economic rise, widespread unrest in Tibet, and chaos surrounding the Olympic torch relay combined to dent Beijing's image abroad this year.

Since then, praise for the Beijing games, and May's devastating earthquake, have helped moderate the criticism, establishing positive momentum that flattering comparisons with Russia should help sustain.

In material terms, China stands to gain most from closer relations with Central Asia, a region that remains wary of Russian intentions and where Beijing is investing heavily in hopes of securing access to oil and gas. It could also bring about closer ties with the United States and Europe, who have criticized Russia's recent moves and are now reevaluating their overall relationship with Moscow.

"While Russia looks like a grasping, combative power, China appears to be engaging" with the outside world, Lo said. "Beijing doesn't want to foul up ties with Russia but relations with the U.S. are much more important," he added.

Achieving that balance requires an exceptionally cautious response.

On Tuesday, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu offered up only a bland statement on the situation and ignored a question about Moscow's recent warning to the international community not to support Georgia's leadership and call for an arms embargo against the ex-Soviet republic.

"We hope relevant countries and relevant parties continue their efforts through dialogue and consultation to ease the situation and find a proper resolution for regional peace and stability," Jiang said at a regularly scheduled news conference.

Earlier, the ministry said it was concerned about the Georgia situation, but offered no specifics. Last week, China joined Central Asian states in ignoring Russia's plea for an endorsement of it's diplomatic recognition of two Moscow-backed separatist enclaves in Georgia.

"Beijing's policy so far, such as it is, is what one can describe with 'masterly inactivity' — do as little as possible, not antagonize anyone, but not support anyone either," said Steve Tsang, a China expert at Britain's Oxford University.

Despite frequently partnering with Russia to contain U.S. influence, Beijing has plenty of reasons for quietly opposing Moscow's Georgia agenda.

Moscow's recognition of the rebel regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has tweaked Chinese anxieties about separatist movements in its restive western regions of Tibet and Xinjiang, as well as self-governing Taiwan, said June Teufel Dreyer, a Chinese politics expert at the University of Florida.

"The implications of recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia set dangerous precedents," Dreyer said.

Moscow's actions also encroach on China's consistent hard line over questions of sovereignty and territorial integrity and firm opposition to military intervention on humanitarian grounds. Russia's attempts to cast its dispatch of troops to Georgia along the lines of Western intervention in Kosovo have little currency in Beijing, Tsang said.

China also objected to Russia's attempt to use a Chinese-dominated regional body, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, to endorse its recognition of the rebel Georgian regions, Tsang said. Beijing has always insisted the grouping, which met last week in Tajikistan, is not a political alliance and doesn't pose a threat to any other nation or multilateral institution.

"It's not meant to rebuke Russia as much as it is to show the world that the SCO under Chinese stewardship is a constructive force," Tsang said.

Russian assertiveness also helps China by fragmenting U.S. and European Union concerns over its own rise while heading off future "color-revolutions" that brought democrats to power in Georgia and Ukraine, Tsang said.

Both, he said, are "very welcome developments that China would not like to undermine."

Anonymous:

Beijing’s Olympic Games have left the world enamored with China. Yet corruption and shame blanketed its venues as thickly as the smog that will soon return to harry its inhabitants and visitors.

For all of the hyperbole and praise, you would think China had stopped providing arms to a genocidal regime in Sudan. You would think China had allowed the Dalai Lama to return to Tibet and assured Tibetans basic human rights. You would think China’s communist leadership had sent a signal to an enthralled and giddy world audience that it had turned a new leaf in its oppressive policies towards its own citizens.

Hardly.

It wasn’t freedom or a decisive blow to the genocidal regime it supports that China delivered. It was an admittedly impressive and incredibly enjoyable Olympic farce. Democracies, take note: An upside of totalitarianism, it appears, is the ability to conduct massive, state-sponsored and protest-free global events. One must simply lie, imprison and deceive, while satisfying an audience with pageantry and opulence.

“These were truly exceptional games,” International Olympic Committee Chairman Jacques Rogge said at the end of the games, games that saw as many promises broken as world records.

Seven years ago, China made sweeping assurances that being granted the Olympic Games would ensure a shift in its attitude toward its place in the world and the human rights of those under its control.

Not so.

Most emblematic of this Olympic farce was the discovery that Lin Miaoke, the pretty nine-year-old girl in the red dress who sang China’s “Ode to the Motherland” during the opening ceremony’s most powerful moment, did not, indeed, sing China’s “Ode to the Motherland” during the opening ceremony’s most powerful moment. Instead, 7-year-old Yang Peiyi, safely offscreen and invisible to viewers, sang the ode to a global audience while Lin sang or lip-synched into what has been assumed to be a muted microphone.

Chinese organizers, it was said, eschewed Yang’s reportedly “crooked teeth” and “chubby face” for the prettier though less vocally talented Lin. Yang’s voice would be heard, but it was Lin’s pretty face the world would see.

Try explaining that one to your prom date. “I was deemed too ugly by Olympic organizers to sing in front of a billion people.”

But isn’t this deception, this slight of hand, just like China? While the world is enamored with its meteoric rise to superpower status, China is suppressing the religious freedoms of its citizens and visitors. While the world gapes, eyes transfixed upon an Olympic Games unmatched in grandeur, viewership, money spent and records broken, China quietly and faithfully continues to arm and train a regime that has committed and continues to oversee the 21st century’s first genocide.

While businesses around the globe revel in the cheap labor provided by China’s distended population, China presides over a human rights record in Tibet, especially, that would make the Bush administration blush with shame. While the International Olympic Committee slapped itself on the back for completing what it assumed was its most successful Olympics, China presided over a string of broken promises and lies.

A spectacular Olympic Games covers a host of sins.

China promised unfettered access to the Internet for foreign journalists. Journalists, upon arriving in Beijing to cover the games, were shocked to find their access to web topics pertaining to contentious issues within China subject to the same strict controls they were assured would not be in place. As the IOC watched anxiously to see how China would honor its commitment to improve human rights, China enacted a deadly and violent crackdown in Tibet in the months leading up to the games and engaged in a flurry of visa revocations and dissident relocations within China.

China promised the right to protest, albeit in one of three designated protest zones. Not one of the reported 77 protest applications was approved by Chinese authorities, and not a single protest was undertaken at any of the zones. But two elderly Chinese women were arrested and sentenced to “reeducation through labor” for trying.

Promises, promises.

And don’t get me started on those underage Chinese gymnasts — I have a word limit, after all.

China is proving itself to be a nation dangerously intent on hiding not only what the world thinks of it, but what it thinks of itself. It would seem that behind every “Smiling Angel,” as the Chinese press has dubbed the lip synching Lin, is a crooked-toothed Chinese secret.

Let’s hope that, like Yang, China grows out of its awkward stage.

Preferably into something a lot less inclined to support genocide.

Anonymous:

Aluminum Corp. of China, the country's biggest producer, has set up a subsidiary based in Tibet to conduct mineral exploration, mining and smelting in the Himalayan region.

The 250 million yuan (US$36.5 million) wholly-owned subsidiary's founding was celebrated in a ceremony in Tibet's capital, Lhasa, attended by regional political and business leaders, the company, also known as Chinalco, said in a statement seen on its Web site Thursday. The subsidiary was named China Aluminum Tibet Mining Corp. Ltd.

The move comes amid an acceleration of efforts to exploit Tibet's largely untapped mineral resources. The Ministry of Railways recently announced plans for six new railway lines in and around Tibet, following the opening in 2006 of the final link in a line from Beijing to Lhasa.

In its statement, Chinalco pledged to pursue cooperative and socially responsible development in the region. The company, the world's second-biggest producer of alumina, has faced criticism from environmental activists who charge that waste from a smelting plant it already operates in the Amdo region of eastern Tibet is harming local livestock herds and water supplies.

Chinalco has moved to boost its resource bases both inside and outside China, teaming up with Alcoa Inc. earlier this year to acquire a stake in global mining company Rio Tinto PLC, then the largest overseas investment ever by a Chinese company.

Tibet is one of fast-growing China's last frontiers, with abundant deposits of copper, chromium, bauxite and other precious minerals and metals.

Beijing is encouraging development of mining and other industries in the long-isolated region as a way to promote its economic growth and raise living standards. But others worry that the rush into Tibet could wreck much of the high-altitude region's delicate ecosystem, and that an influx of the majority ethnic Han Chinese threatens its Buddhist culture and traditional way of life.

Foreign companies have also been allowed to begin minerals exploration and development in the largely pastoral region.

Continental Minerals Corp., a Vancouver, Canada-based company, has conducted exploration and signed a preliminary agreement with Jinchuan Group Ltd. to develop an open-pit copper-gold-silver mine at Xietongmen, 240 kilometers (150 miles) southwest of Lhasa, according to Continental Mineral's Web site.

The plan calls for the ore mined there to be shipped by road and/or rail to Jinchuan's refinery in Gansu province, far to the northeast.

Chinalco's Shanghai-traded shares gained 1.14 percent to 9.72 yuan Thursday.

Anonymous:

Chen:
51 GOLD....ENOUGH SAID!!!
----------------------------------

LOL... The pain in your a_r_s_e must be realy big.

aside that EU has still more medals as everyone else.

Chen:

51 GOLD....ENOUGH SAID!!!

Anonymous:

While invading Russian tanks lumbered into Georgia last month, crowds in Beijing were pouring into Olympic venues in a globally-televised show of international engagement.

Now, the contrasting images may yield a diplomatic boon for China, one that could bring real advantages in its rise to global prominence. While both Russia and China rank as newly assertive global giants, China — even with its surging foreign trade, booming military spending, and growing international reach — looks practically benign compared to an angry, aggressive Russia, experts say.

"You can't help noting the imagery," said Lo Bobo, director of Russia and China programs at the Center for European Reform in London. "It seems to be a contrast that works in China's favor," Lo said.

China could certainly use the boost. Fears over its economic rise, widespread unrest in Tibet, and chaos surrounding the Olympic torch relay combined to dent Beijing's image abroad this year.

Since then, praise for the Beijing games, and May's devastating earthquake, have helped moderate the criticism, establishing positive momentum that flattering comparisons with Russia should help sustain.

In material terms, China stands to gain most from closer relations with Central Asia, a region that remains wary of Russian intentions and where Beijing is investing heavily in hopes of securing access to oil and gas. It could also bring about closer ties with the United States and Europe, who have criticized Russia's recent moves and are now reevaluating their overall relationship with Moscow.

"While Russia looks like a grasping, combative power, China appears to be engaging" with the outside world, Lo said. "Beijing doesn't want to foul up ties with Russia but relations with the U.S. are much more important," he added.

Achieving that balance requires an exceptionally cautious response.

On Tuesday, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu offered up only a bland statement on the situation and ignored a question about Moscow's recent warning to the international community not to support Georgia's leadership and call for an arms embargo against the ex-Soviet republic.

"We hope relevant countries and relevant parties continue their efforts through dialogue and consultation to ease the situation and find a proper resolution for regional peace and stability," Jiang said at a regularly scheduled news conference.

Earlier, the ministry said it was concerned about the Georgia situation, but offered no specifics. Last week, China joined Central Asian states in ignoring Russia's plea for an endorsement of it's diplomatic recognition of two Moscow-backed separatist enclaves in Georgia.

"Beijing's policy so far, such as it is, is what one can describe with 'masterly inactivity' — do as little as possible, not antagonize anyone, but not support anyone either," said Steve Tsang, a China expert at Britain's Oxford University.

Despite frequently partnering with Russia to contain U.S. influence, Beijing has plenty of reasons for quietly opposing Moscow's Georgia agenda.

Moscow's recognition of the rebel regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has tweaked Chinese anxieties about separatist movements in its restive western regions of Tibet and Xinjiang, as well as self-governing Taiwan, said June Teufel Dreyer, a Chinese politics expert at the University of Florida.

"The implications of recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia set dangerous precedents," Dreyer said.

Moscow's actions also encroach on China's consistent hard line over questions of sovereignty and territorial integrity and firm opposition to military intervention on humanitarian grounds. Russia's attempts to cast its dispatch of troops to Georgia along the lines of Western intervention in Kosovo have little currency in Beijing, Tsang said.

China also objected to Russia's attempt to use a Chinese-dominated regional body, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, to endorse its recognition of the rebel Georgian regions, Tsang said. Beijing has always insisted the grouping, which met last week in Tajikistan, is not a political alliance and doesn't pose a threat to any other nation or multilateral institution.

"It's not meant to rebuke Russia as much as it is to show the world that the SCO under Chinese stewardship is a constructive force," Tsang said.

Russian assertiveness also helps China by fragmenting U.S. and European Union concerns over its own rise while heading off future "color-revolutions" that brought democrats to power in Georgia and Ukraine, Tsang said.

Both, he said, are "very welcome developments that China would not like to undermine."

Anonymous:

Beijing’s Olympic Games have left the world enamored with China. Yet corruption and shame blanketed its venues as thickly as the smog that will soon return to harry its inhabitants and visitors.

For all of the hyperbole and praise, you would think China had stopped providing arms to a genocidal regime in Sudan. You would think China had allowed the Dalai Lama to return to Tibet and assured Tibetans basic human rights. You would think China’s communist leadership had sent a signal to an enthralled and giddy world audience that it had turned a new leaf in its oppressive policies towards its own citizens.

Hardly.

It wasn’t freedom or a decisive blow to the genocidal regime it supports that China delivered. It was an admittedly impressive and incredibly enjoyable Olympic farce. Democracies, take note: An upside of totalitarianism, it appears, is the ability to conduct massive, state-sponsored and protest-free global events. One must simply lie, imprison and deceive, while satisfying an audience with pageantry and opulence.

“These were truly exceptional games,” International Olympic Committee Chairman Jacques Rogge said at the end of the games, games that saw as many promises broken as world records.

Seven years ago, China made sweeping assurances that being granted the Olympic Games would ensure a shift in its attitude toward its place in the world and the human rights of those under its control.

Not so.

Most emblematic of this Olympic farce was the discovery that Lin Miaoke, the pretty nine-year-old girl in the red dress who sang China’s “Ode to the Motherland” during the opening ceremony’s most powerful moment, did not, indeed, sing China’s “Ode to the Motherland” during the opening ceremony’s most powerful moment. Instead, 7-year-old Yang Peiyi, safely offscreen and invisible to viewers, sang the ode to a global audience while Lin sang or lip-synched into what has been assumed to be a muted microphone.

Chinese organizers, it was said, eschewed Yang’s reportedly “crooked teeth” and “chubby face” for the prettier though less vocally talented Lin. Yang’s voice would be heard, but it was Lin’s pretty face the world would see.

Try explaining that one to your prom date. “I was deemed too ugly by Olympic organizers to sing in front of a billion people.”

But isn’t this deception, this slight of hand, just like China? While the world is enamored with its meteoric rise to superpower status, China is suppressing the religious freedoms of its citizens and visitors. While the world gapes, eyes transfixed upon an Olympic Games unmatched in grandeur, viewership, money spent and records broken, China quietly and faithfully continues to arm and train a regime that has committed and continues to oversee the 21st century’s first genocide.

While businesses around the globe revel in the cheap labor provided by China’s distended population, China presides over a human rights record in Tibet, especially, that would make the Bush administration blush with shame. While the International Olympic Committee slapped itself on the back for completing what it assumed was its most successful Olympics, China presided over a string of broken promises and lies.

A spectacular Olympic Games covers a host of sins.

China promised unfettered access to the Internet for foreign journalists. Journalists, upon arriving in Beijing to cover the games, were shocked to find their access to web topics pertaining to contentious issues within China subject to the same strict controls they were assured would not be in place. As the IOC watched anxiously to see how China would honor its commitment to improve human rights, China enacted a deadly and violent crackdown in Tibet in the months leading up to the games and engaged in a flurry of visa revocations and dissident relocations within China.

China promised the right to protest, albeit in one of three designated protest zones. Not one of the reported 77 protest applications was approved by Chinese authorities, and not a single protest was undertaken at any of the zones. But two elderly Chinese women were arrested and sentenced to “reeducation through labor” for trying.

Promises, promises.

And don’t get me started on those underage Chinese gymnasts — I have a word limit, after all.

China is proving itself to be a nation dangerously intent on hiding not only what the world thinks of it, but what it thinks of itself. It would seem that behind every “Smiling Angel,” as the Chinese press has dubbed the lip synching Lin, is a crooked-toothed Chinese secret.

Let’s hope that, like Yang, China grows out of its awkward stage.

Preferably into something a lot less inclined to support genocide.

Anonymous:

Aluminum Corp. of China, the country's biggest producer, has set up a subsidiary based in Tibet to conduct mineral exploration, mining and smelting in the Himalayan region.

The 250 million yuan (US$36.5 million) wholly-owned subsidiary's founding was celebrated in a ceremony in Tibet's capital, Lhasa, attended by regional political and business leaders, the company, also known as Chinalco, said in a statement seen on its Web site Thursday. The subsidiary was named China Aluminum Tibet Mining Corp. Ltd.

The move comes amid an acceleration of efforts to exploit Tibet's largely untapped mineral resources. The Ministry of Railways recently announced plans for six new railway lines in and around Tibet, following the opening in 2006 of the final link in a line from Beijing to Lhasa.

In its statement, Chinalco pledged to pursue cooperative and socially responsible development in the region. The company, the world's second-biggest producer of alumina, has faced criticism from environmental activists who charge that waste from a smelting plant it already operates in the Amdo region of eastern Tibet is harming local livestock herds and water supplies.

Chinalco has moved to boost its resource bases both inside and outside China, teaming up with Alcoa Inc. earlier this year to acquire a stake in global mining company Rio Tinto PLC, then the largest overseas investment ever by a Chinese company.

Tibet is one of fast-growing China's last frontiers, with abundant deposits of copper, chromium, bauxite and other precious minerals and metals.

Beijing is encouraging development of mining and other industries in the long-isolated region as a way to promote its economic growth and raise living standards. But others worry that the rush into Tibet could wreck much of the high-altitude region's delicate ecosystem, and that an influx of the majority ethnic Han Chinese threatens its Buddhist culture and traditional way of life.

Foreign companies have also been allowed to begin minerals exploration and development in the largely pastoral region.

Continental Minerals Corp., a Vancouver, Canada-based company, has conducted exploration and signed a preliminary agreement with Jinchuan Group Ltd. to develop an open-pit copper-gold-silver mine at Xietongmen, 240 kilometers (150 miles) southwest of Lhasa, according to Continental Mineral's Web site.

The plan calls for the ore mined there to be shipped by road and/or rail to Jinchuan's refinery in Gansu province, far to the northeast.

Chinalco's Shanghai-traded shares gained 1.14 percent to 9.72 yuan Thursday.

Anonymous:

Anonymous:
If Americans start to lose their weight,
Then our world would not suffer hunger;
If Americans stop to burn more gas,
Then our world would become green.
God bless America! I believe you can:)
One world one dream. Oh America,
Lose your fat and gas:)
----------------------------------------------

what a s-h-it are you smoking again?

Anonymous:

If Americans start to lose their weight,
Then our world would not suffer hunger;
If Americans stop to burn more gas,
Then our world would become green.
God bless America! I believe you can:)
One world one dream. Oh America,
Lose your fat and gas:)

Anonymous:

While invading Russian tanks lumbered into Georgia last month, crowds in Beijing were pouring into Olympic venues in a globally-televised show of international engagement.

Now, the contrasting images may yield a diplomatic boon for China, one that could bring real advantages in its rise to global prominence. While both Russia and China rank as newly assertive global giants, China — even with its surging foreign trade, booming military spending, and growing international reach — looks practically benign compared to an angry, aggressive Russia, experts say.

"You can't help noting the imagery," said Lo Bobo, director of Russia and China programs at the Center for European Reform in London. "It seems to be a contrast that works in China's favor," Lo said.

China could certainly use the boost. Fears over its economic rise, widespread unrest in Tibet, and chaos surrounding the Olympic torch relay combined to dent Beijing's image abroad this year.

Since then, praise for the Beijing games, and May's devastating earthquake, have helped moderate the criticism, establishing positive momentum that flattering comparisons with Russia should help sustain.

In material terms, China stands to gain most from closer relations with Central Asia, a region that remains wary of Russian intentions and where Beijing is investing heavily in hopes of securing access to oil and gas. It could also bring about closer ties with the United States and Europe, who have criticized Russia's recent moves and are now reevaluating their overall relationship with Moscow.

"While Russia looks like a grasping, combative power, China appears to be engaging" with the outside world, Lo said. "Beijing doesn't want to foul up ties with Russia but relations with the U.S. are much more important," he added.

Achieving that balance requires an exceptionally cautious response.

On Tuesday, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu offered up only a bland statement on the situation and ignored a question about Moscow's recent warning to the international community not to support Georgia's leadership and call for an arms embargo against the ex-Soviet republic.

"We hope relevant countries and relevant parties continue their efforts through dialogue and consultation to ease the situation and find a proper resolution for regional peace and stability," Jiang said at a regularly scheduled news conference.

Earlier, the ministry said it was concerned about the Georgia situation, but offered no specifics. Last week, China joined Central Asian states in ignoring Russia's plea for an endorsement of it's diplomatic recognition of two Moscow-backed separatist enclaves in Georgia.

"Beijing's policy so far, such as it is, is what one can describe with 'masterly inactivity' — do as little as possible, not antagonize anyone, but not support anyone either," said Steve Tsang, a China expert at Britain's Oxford University.

Despite frequently partnering with Russia to contain U.S. influence, Beijing has plenty of reasons for quietly opposing Moscow's Georgia agenda.

Moscow's recognition of the rebel regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has tweaked Chinese anxieties about separatist movements in its restive western regions of Tibet and Xinjiang, as well as self-governing Taiwan, said June Teufel Dreyer, a Chinese politics expert at the University of Florida.

"The implications of recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia set dangerous precedents," Dreyer said.

Moscow's actions also encroach on China's consistent hard line over questions of sovereignty and territorial integrity and firm opposition to military intervention on humanitarian grounds. Russia's attempts to cast its dispatch of troops to Georgia along the lines of Western intervention in Kosovo have little currency in Beijing, Tsang said.

China also objected to Russia's attempt to use a Chinese-dominated regional body, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, to endorse its recognition of the rebel Georgian regions, Tsang said. Beijing has always insisted the grouping, which met last week in Tajikistan, is not a political alliance and doesn't pose a threat to any other nation or multilateral institution.

"It's not meant to rebuke Russia as much as it is to show the world that the SCO under Chinese stewardship is a constructive force," Tsang said.

Russian assertiveness also helps China by fragmenting U.S. and European Union concerns over its own rise while heading off future "color-revolutions" that brought democrats to power in Georgia and Ukraine, Tsang said.

Both, he said, are "very welcome developments that China would not like to undermine."

Anonymous:

Beijing’s Olympic Games have left the world enamored with China. Yet corruption and shame blanketed its venues as thickly as the smog that will soon return to harry its inhabitants and visitors.

For all of the hyperbole and praise, you would think China had stopped providing arms to a genocidal regime in Sudan. You would think China had allowed the Dalai Lama to return to Tibet and assured Tibetans basic human rights. You would think China’s communist leadership had sent a signal to an enthralled and giddy world audience that it had turned a new leaf in its oppressive policies towards its own citizens.

Hardly.

It wasn’t freedom or a decisive blow to the genocidal regime it supports that China delivered. It was an admittedly impressive and incredibly enjoyable Olympic farce. Democracies, take note: An upside of totalitarianism, it appears, is the ability to conduct massive, state-sponsored and protest-free global events. One must simply lie, imprison and deceive, while satisfying an audience with pageantry and opulence.

“These were truly exceptional games,” International Olympic Committee Chairman Jacques Rogge said at the end of the games, games that saw as many promises broken as world records.

Seven years ago, China made sweeping assurances that being granted the Olympic Games would ensure a shift in its attitude toward its place in the world and the human rights of those under its control.

Not so.

Most emblematic of this Olympic farce was the discovery that Lin Miaoke, the pretty nine-year-old girl in the red dress who sang China’s “Ode to the Motherland” during the opening ceremony’s most powerful moment, did not, indeed, sing China’s “Ode to the Motherland” during the opening ceremony’s most powerful moment. Instead, 7-year-old Yang Peiyi, safely offscreen and invisible to viewers, sang the ode to a global audience while Lin sang or lip-synched into what has been assumed to be a muted microphone.

Chinese organizers, it was said, eschewed Yang’s reportedly “crooked teeth” and “chubby face” for the prettier though less vocally talented Lin. Yang’s voice would be heard, but it was Lin’s pretty face the world would see.

Try explaining that one to your prom date. “I was deemed too ugly by Olympic organizers to sing in front of a billion people.”

But isn’t this deception, this slight of hand, just like China? While the world is enamored with its meteoric rise to superpower status, China is suppressing the religious freedoms of its citizens and visitors. While the world gapes, eyes transfixed upon an Olympic Games unmatched in grandeur, viewership, money spent and records broken, China quietly and faithfully continues to arm and train a regime that has committed and continues to oversee the 21st century’s first genocide.

While businesses around the globe revel in the cheap labor provided by China’s distended population, China presides over a human rights record in Tibet, especially, that would make the Bush administration blush with shame. While the International Olympic Committee slapped itself on the back for completing what it assumed was its most successful Olympics, China presided over a string of broken promises and lies.

A spectacular Olympic Games covers a host of sins.

China promised unfettered access to the Internet for foreign journalists. Journalists, upon arriving in Beijing to cover the games, were shocked to find their access to web topics pertaining to contentious issues within China subject to the same strict controls they were assured would not be in place. As the IOC watched anxiously to see how China would honor its commitment to improve human rights, China enacted a deadly and violent crackdown in Tibet in the months leading up to the games and engaged in a flurry of visa revocations and dissident relocations within China.

China promised the right to protest, albeit in one of three designated protest zones. Not one of the reported 77 protest applications was approved by Chinese authorities, and not a single protest was undertaken at any of the zones. But two elderly Chinese women were arrested and sentenced to “reeducation through labor” for trying.

Promises, promises.

And don’t get me started on those underage Chinese gymnasts — I have a word limit, after all.

China is proving itself to be a nation dangerously intent on hiding not only what the world thinks of it, but what it thinks of itself. It would seem that behind every “Smiling Angel,” as the Chinese press has dubbed the lip synching Lin, is a crooked-toothed Chinese secret.

Let’s hope that, like Yang, China grows out of its awkward stage.

Preferably into something a lot less inclined to support genocide.

Anonymous:

Aluminum Corp. of China, the country's biggest producer, has set up a subsidiary based in Tibet to conduct mineral exploration, mining and smelting in the Himalayan region.

The 250 million yuan (US$36.5 million) wholly-owned subsidiary's founding was celebrated in a ceremony in Tibet's capital, Lhasa, attended by regional political and business leaders, the company, also known as Chinalco, said in a statement seen on its Web site Thursday. The subsidiary was named China Aluminum Tibet Mining Corp. Ltd.

The move comes amid an acceleration of efforts to exploit Tibet's largely untapped mineral resources. The Ministry of Railways recently announced plans for six new railway lines in and around Tibet, following the opening in 2006 of the final link in a line from Beijing to Lhasa.

In its statement, Chinalco pledged to pursue cooperative and socially responsible development in the region. The company, the world's second-biggest producer of alumina, has faced criticism from environmental activists who charge that waste from a smelting plant it already operates in the Amdo region of eastern Tibet is harming local livestock herds and water supplies.

Chinalco has moved to boost its resource bases both inside and outside China, teaming up with Alcoa Inc. earlier this year to acquire a stake in global mining company Rio Tinto PLC, then the largest overseas investment ever by a Chinese company.

Tibet is one of fast-growing China's last frontiers, with abundant deposits of copper, chromium, bauxite and other precious minerals and metals.

Beijing is encouraging development of mining and other industries in the long-isolated region as a way to promote its economic growth and raise living standards. But others worry that the rush into Tibet could wreck much of the high-altitude region's delicate ecosystem, and that an influx of the majority ethnic Han Chinese threatens its Buddhist culture and traditional way of life.

Foreign companies have also been allowed to begin minerals exploration and development in the largely pastoral region.

Continental Minerals Corp., a Vancouver, Canada-based company, has conducted exploration and signed a preliminary agreement with Jinchuan Group Ltd. to develop an open-pit copper-gold-silver mine at Xietongmen, 240 kilometers (150 miles) southwest of Lhasa, according to Continental Mineral's Web site.

The plan calls for the ore mined there to be shipped by road and/or rail to Jinchuan's refinery in Gansu province, far to the northeast.

Chinalco's Shanghai-traded shares gained 1.14 percent to 9.72 yuan Thursday.

Anonymous:

CHINA: 51 GOLDS
RACIST WESTERN IMPERIALISTS LOSE!!!!

THE ONLY IDIOT IS THE ANONYMOUS MATHEMATICALLY IMPAIRED!

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Soooo.. chinese racists wone?

ps, idiot.. EU won most medals not VRC.

Anonymous:

Anonymous:
To Dear German Anonymous,

It is time for you to seek some professional help, stop embarrassing yourself in front the whole world. I am so afraid of that you will turn to Hitler the 2nd in near future, and earn one more spot in the mental hospital. Stop wasting the tax payers' money. Maybe intermarriage causes your intellectual disability

---------------------------------------------

buthurt much?

Chen:

ANONYMOUS:
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT....IT BELONGS TO THE HONOR OF ALL OF US CHINESE.
---------------------------------------------------"WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. Another Idiot detected!"

CHINA: 51 GOLDS
RACIST WESTERN IMPERIALISTS LOSE!!!!

THE ONLY IDIOT IS THE ANONYMOUS MATHEMATICALLY IMPAIRED!

Anonymous:

To Dear German Anonymous,

It is time for you to seek some professional help, stop embarrassing yourself in front the whole world. I am so afraid of that you will turn to Hitler the 2nd in near future, and earn one more spot in the mental hospital. Stop wasting the tax payers' money. Maybe intermarriage causes your intellectual disability.

Anonymous:

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT....IT BELONGS TO THE HONOR OF ALL OF US CHINESE.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. Another Idiot detected!

Anonymous:

Anonymous:
To Dear German Anonymous,

How many Jews your grandpa killed during WW2?
And please don't write German here, not many people understand, because it is not common language, or influential culture.

Not many people speak German now, in fact, many German speak English and start learning Chinese, join the culture revolution of the world.

You don't even know where China is, how you concern about Chinese?

No wonder many German were lured by Hitler, your WW2 Caesar, because you were stiff, same as your reply of my Chinese poem about American History.
--------------------------------------------------


whahahahaha! congrad, you outed yourself as buthurt looser with zero education!

Anonymous:

How many Jews your grandpa killed during WW2?

--noone, and yours?

And please don't write German here, not many people understand, because it is not common language, or influential culture.

-- you must be from the moon..

Not many people speak German now, in fact, many German speak English and start learning Chinese, join the culture revolution of the world.

-- whahahaha.. most Germans speak 2-3 languages and English is not the most speaked forign language. Chinese is not even close to the Russian or Klingon..

You don't even know where China is, how you concern about Chinese?

-- you know what i know? whahaha.. You must be the biggest idiot in the world..

No wonder many German were lured by Hitler, your WW2 Caesar, because you were stiff, same as your reply of my Chinese poem about American History.

--you are a looser who knows nothing about Germany, second this Forum is an English forum and you was warned about. one s-h-i-t-y "poem" with chinese scrawl more and you will get all answers only in other languages..


Go West! :

"Chinese track star Liu Xiang will need six months to a year to recover from the foot injury that forced him out of the Beijing Olympics, officials said Wednesday.

Liu, who returned to his home in Shanghai last week, is consulting doctors before deciding with government sports chiefs on the best treatment, the Shanghai Sports Bureau's website quoted a senior official as saying.

All options were being considered, including sending Liu to the United States for treatment, Yang was quoted as saying.

A team of doctors, including several US orthopedics experts, are examining Liu's heel tendon injury, the Shanghai Morning Post reported"

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iBKDgvjhUs9jqjYVWVYBQYf_6bxw

@@:

"The only thing to fear in the slowing Chinese economy may be excessive fear of a slowdown itself.

China's economy has decelerated markedly, the latest evidence coming this week in surveys that showed its manufacturing sector was shrinking for the first time in three years."

http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSPEK16623920080904?sp=true

Anonymous:

To Dear German Anonymous,

How many Jews your grandpa killed during WW2?
And please don't write German here, not many people understand, because it is not common language, or influential culture.

Not many people speak German now, in fact, many German speak English and start learning Chinese, join the culture revolution of the world.

You don't even know where China is, how you concern about Chinese?

No wonder many German were lured by Hitler, your WW2 Caesar, because you were stiff, same as your reply of my Chinese poem about American History.

Chen:

@CHEN:
Too bad the 51 Gold does'nt belong to you."

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT....IT BELONGS TO THE HONOR OF ALL OF US CHINESE.

AND WE LAUGH AT THE INFERIOR EFFORTS OF YOU RACIST IMPERIALISTS!

@Chen:

Too bad the 51 Gold does'nt belong to you.

Chen:

SUCCESS?!

-MOST WELL RUN OLYMPIC GAMES EVER.
-GREATEST OPENING CEREMONY EVER SEEN.
-MOST IMPRESSIVE ARCHITECTURE AND INFRASTRUCTURE EVER
BUILT

BOTTOM LINE: 51 GOLD!!!

RACIST WESTERN IMPERIALISTS: LOSE BIG-TIME!!!!

Lol:

It looks like a Eastern Turkicstan (???where on the world map) dreamer called "Anonymous" in Europe is talking all along here and makes a lot of Chinese regard him as an American.

He tried to garner and post all negative reports about China.If having enough,he invented,lol.

He is the biggest instigator here in terms of making hatred between Chinese and American.

LOL:

@fools:

Anonymous
It proves my points now. You guys really think the 20,000 students and 3000 Chinese companies in US, are all spies.
So, bring in the FBI, round them up and ship them to concentration camp. You guys have done it to Japanese Americans. It is the Chinese turn.
I just read an article by Thomas Friedman. He said coming from the airports into the cities of Beijing and Shanghai and comparing it to the same experiment in New York city and LA, he could not help but wondering out loud who is the third world country. His conclusion was, US spent too much time attacking other people and not enough time on themselves. Good point. Isn't it.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Annonimous is a East Turkic Empire dreamer in Europe.

People can write English here are not all American.

@fools:

Anonymous
It proves my points now. You guys really think the 20,000 students and 3000 Chinese companies in US, are all spies.
So, bring in the FBI, round them up and ship them to concentration camp. You guys have done it to Japanese Americans. It is the Chinese turn.
I just read an article by Thomas Friedman. He said coming from the airports into the cities of Beijing and Shanghai and comparing it to the same experiment in New York city and LA, he could not help but wondering out loud who is the third world country. His conclusion was, US spent too much time attacking other people and not enough time on themselves. Good point. Isn't it.

Anonymous:

Durham biotech company Serenex Inc. has won a $57.5 million judgment against a former contract worker and others who, a judge says, spied on Serenex and stole its trade secrets.

Judge Donald Stephens handed down the judgment Sept. 2 in Wake County Superior Court against Yunsheng Huang, Tongxiang Zhang, Beijing Gylongli Sci. & Tech. Co. Ltd., and GYLL BioMedTech Inc. In addition to misappropriating trade secrets, the court concluded, the defendants also engaged in an unfair and deceptive trade practice.

Serenex filed the lawsuit in June 2007, saying that Huang, a former contract chemist, had stolen trade secrets and funneled them to Zhang, a Chinese businessman. The two Chinese companies in the lawsuit at one time were listed as having offices at Huang’s Apex residence.

Serenex, which develops cancer drugs, was bought by pharma giant Pfizer earlier this year.

Ah Mei:

US and China are like husband and wife, quarrel now and then but at the end of the day,
the wife cooks the dinner and the husband pays the bills ;-}

@fools:

Anonymous
Haven't you watch Lou Dobb of CNN lately. According to him, there are 3,000 Chinese companies and 20,000 students in the US. They are all spies. Word for word. I guess you guys have to deport them or set up a huge concentration camp mirrored that of Hilter.

Anonymous:

@fools:
Why can't Americans be more mature and take criticism like a mature adults. When somebody points out the wrong doings of American Government, they are labeled American Haters. There are more Chinese immigrants in Canada and Australia than in US. I guess they do love Canada and Australia more than they love US. I guess it hurts when you find out people does not worship you any more. There was a survey done in Canada among new immigrants of Chinese origin recently. It said that most of the immigrants from China moved out of China because the West offers better opportunity for their children to attend University while immigrants from Taiwan listed politcial instalibity and crime as the main reason for leaving Taiwan.
When you look at the population of Asians in Universities across US, it is not difficult to understand what it means. It simply means that white youth are too stupid and lazy to compete against Asians. That is another way for communists to take control of US without firing a shot. Got it.

-----------------------------------------------

What? what are you trying to say?

Anonymous:

Democracy is so sweat when it result from or come along with a huge material prosperity; however, it is such bitter misery when it go down with poor achievement of substance.

Look at those poor African countries.Democracy becomes the most readily available tool for political thugs to overthrow existing regime and practice their horrendous murder.People in name of "democracy" can legitimately kill people labeled as "undemocratic." Proclaim of Liberty allow them break the order of the society and put their interest above anyone...If CNN allows Taliban to preach and argue before American audience,CNN will be the role model of liberty to this world.But this would not happen. What happened,though,is American inviting the Iran president over to a school campus using their English advantage to shut this president up and piecing together a fictional coverage to humiliate Iranians.That's the real humiliation to U.S,though those American involved deem that as their "success." Where is liberty?? In hell.

---------------

WHAT? Are you smoking again the hashish?

@fools:

Why can't Americans be more mature and take criticism like a mature adults. When somebody points out the wrong doings of American Government, they are labeled American Haters. There are more Chinese immigrants in Canada and Australia than in US. I guess they do love Canada and Australia more than they love US. I guess it hurts when you find out people does not worship you any more. There was a survey done in Canada among new immigrants of Chinese origin recently. It said that most of the immigrants from China moved out of China because the West offers better opportunity for their children to attend University while immigrants from Taiwan listed politcial instalibity and crime as the main reason for leaving Taiwan.
When you look at the population of Asians in Universities across US, it is not difficult to understand what it means. It simply means that white youth are too stupid and lazy to compete against Asians. That is another way for communists to take control of US without firing a shot. Got it.

Anonymous:


Chinese Northern Traditional Rap about American History
山东快板-美国痢屎

(Chapter 01 美国古代狗屎)
打竹板儿说闲话儿
今儿个来说说美国佬,
美国佬他不是人,
歪把子枪上戴民主套.
偷鸡摸狗教会逐,
狼狈西蹿是其祖.
落岸抛锚新大陆,
举起火枪开杀戮.
可悲印地安全族,
子孙灭绝无生路.
若知豺狼怨报恩,
莫赐火鸡马岭薯.
移民推进新大陆,
圣经宣传火枪突.
刚刚成立十三州,
诬赖流氓罢交赎.
用其税金征壮夫,
独立之名为私务.
阔土庄园建其屋,
澹澹血迹遍地污.
油心贪得不劳利,
南非捉来黑人奴.
问君多少黑奴泪,
白白棉花润湿土.
问君多少黑奴血,
甜蜜甘糖和水流.

Next week continue:)

Bao: Ich glaube, die Medien würden viele Stimmen wiedergeben und damit Chinas Realität. Die Propaganda-Abteilung will, dass nur eine Stimme zu hören ist, die anderen sollten nach ihrer Ansicht schweigen. Das ist eine Tragödie. Wenn die Propaganda-Abteilung ihre Kontrolle aufgeben und 1,3 Milliarden Menschen erlauben würde, frei zu sprechen, dann hätten wir 1,3 Milliarden Meinungen. Daraus entstünde eine Balance, basierend auf Konflikt und Kompromiss. Und das ergäbe eine perfekte Stabilität.

Welches Problem ist nach Ihrer Ansicht das wichtigste Chinas, das derzeit verschwiegen wird?

Bao: Die Menschenrechte. In der Provinz Guizhou griffen jüngst Zehntausende von Menschen das Polizei-Hauptquartier an. Auslöser waren Gerüchte über den unnatürlichen Tod eines Mädchens. Die Schlussfolgerungen des Provinz-Parteichefs aus diesem Geschehen waren völlig richtig: Die Rechte normaler Leute werden häufig verletzt. Und zweitens: Lokale Behörden und die Regierung nutzen die Polizei, um normale Menschen zu unterdrücken, die versuchen, ihre Rechte zu schützen. Ich habe gehört, dass sich jedes Jahr rund 80.000 solcher Zwischenfälle genau deshalb ereignen. Konkret geht es oft um Landrechte und Entschädigungen. Das ist die Realität Chinas. Wenn das Land dieses Problem lösen kann, wird es langfristige und wirkliche Stabilität erlangen.

Wie kann es das schaffen?

Bao: Mit fairem Wettbewerb. Und: Alles muss ans Tageslicht.

Aber viele Leute profitieren vom System. Vor allem in den Städten werden die Menschen wohlhabender, sie wollen nicht am Gefüge rütteln.

Bao: China braucht Spielregeln des fairen Wettbewerbs. Für alle 1,3 Milliarden Menschen sollten sie gleich sein, für die schwachen Gruppen ebenso wie für die regierende Klasse, für die Eliten. Keiner darf außen vor bleiben.

Was genau verstehen Sie unter "fairem Wettbewerb"?

Bao: Das Recht auf Privateigentum, auf Wahlen, auf Meinungsfreiheit. Das Recht, eine andere Meinung zu haben als die Regierung, das Recht, die Regierung auszuwechseln. Wir besitzen all dies nicht, haben also keine Basis für soziale Stabilität. Die Olympischen Spiele haben das Prinzip der Fairness nach China gebracht. Ich bin fest davon überzeugt, dass die Chinesen solche Regeln in allen Bereichen wollen.

Herr Bao, wir dürfen Sie besuchen, andere Kritiker werden jedoch abgeschirmt. Wer entscheidet darüber?

Bao: Chinesische Journalisten dürfen mich nicht besuchen, einige Freunde ebenso nicht. Die Parteispitze befindet darüber. Es war sogar ein Politbüromitglied, das bei der Eröffnungsveranstaltung der Olympischen Spiele entschied, welches Mädchen wirklich singt und welches nur den Mund aufmacht.

Aber diese Leute müssen ein Riesenland regieren. Warum kümmern sie sich um solche Details?

Bao: Sie halten das für äußerst wichtig. Damit sich das Land weiterentwickeln kann, sollte die Partei nach meiner Meinung gar nichts tun. Es ist zum Beispiel nicht notwendig, so viele Internet-Polizisten aufzustellen. Sie sollten das Internet öffnen und die Leute ihre Meinung sagen lassen.

Die KP fürchtet um ihre Macht.

Bao: Aber sie würde dann Vitalität gewinnen. Und das Vertrauen der Menschen.

日啖荔枝三百颗:

Hi, "Fools"

You can tell the difference between sincere criticism and bashing with designed lies, can't you?

People do (at least did) move to U.S. obssessively since U.S. did have some moral appeals and provided hopes, but it is all different now since U.S. has been un-doing itself morally.

Also, it is people's nature to forgive and admire the wealthy and the powerful (and thus spoil them). This is the vulgarity in humanity. Regarding this, not just Chinese people, but many peoples in the world are being punished for this vulgarity. You do have a point here, which I have nothing to defend from.

fools:

Wow, Chinese really can't deal with any criticism, they always obsess about America instead. If America is so bad why do so many Chinese try to immigrate there?

свобода слова:

"Chinese police have thwarted a bid by angry parents to confront Chinese Prime Minister Wen about poor school construction during his visit to a middle-school near the epicenter of May’s devastating earthquake, witnesses said.

Wen was visiting Beichuan Middle School, in southern China’s Sichuan province, for the facility’s opening ceremony Monday. Many say poor construction caused the school’s buildings to collapse, killing 1,300 students during the May 12 quake."

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/quake-09022008203815.html

Anonymous:

Chinese Northern Traditional Rap about American History
山东快板-美国痢屎

(Chapter 01 美国古代狗屎)
打竹板儿说闲话儿
今儿个来说说美国佬,
美国佬他不是人,
歪把子枪上戴民主套.
偷鸡摸狗教会逐,
狼狈西蹿是其祖.
落岸抛锚新大陆,
举起火枪开杀戮.
可悲印地安全族,
子孙灭绝无生路.
若知豺狼怨报恩,
莫赐火鸡马岭薯.
移民推进新大陆,
圣经宣传火枪突.
刚刚成立十三州,
诬赖流氓罢交赎.
用其税金征壮夫,
独立之名为私务.
阔土庄园建其屋,
澹澹血迹遍地污.
油心贪得不劳利,
南非捉来黑人奴.
问君多少黑奴泪,
白白棉花润湿土.
问君多少黑奴血,
甜蜜甘糖和水流.

Next week continue:)

日啖荔枝三百颗 is a minimalist:

今日美国

胸假
话假
心假
人傻


U.S. Today

Fake Tits.
Lying Lips.
No Wits.
Bad Kids.


大家都是苏东坡:

哈,哈,哈...

Anonymous:

man locked in prison, but his spirit roams free;
monkey roams in zoo, still jumps in joy he's free.

Sure Chinese don't have freedom as the Americans,
but what Americans do with their 'holy' rights?

What you American have with your free speech?:)
You are still the damn ballot counts for your rich.
It is time for you to vote the one of the rich and powerful. Oh, my God, you are voting your president, what a show they give you.

God bless America, and God pity American!

日啖荔枝三百颗:

To "Demon-crazy" and "Free-dumb" Americans:

民主魔鬼
全球行骗
吃了拉肚
自由薯片

I can only attempt a translation:

Democracy? Demon-crazy?
Deceiving the world, indeed!
And watch out for your tummy
with those Freedom fries!


哈,哈,哈....


talking to an american is like talking to a wall:

Litsen to those idiots like "anonymous".

"democracy" (indeed, demon-cracy), "freedom" are their objects for spiritual masturbation. It is like they have highjacked "freedom" and are now putting it in acution.

Pitiful americans, "free" to be loners, liers and dummies.

Get more "freedom fries" for your lonely lonely dinners.

Pity...pity...

LMAO:

Re: "Actually, in China people are allowed to have their own thinking and speech about themselves and others or government. It's just that they are not allowed to use the media to channel their own biased view to create problem for society and public.

One may give speech over the public rest. dinner table about how bad the government is... but he is just not allowed to use media to broadcast his own idea to direct the public that would cause conflict and disturbance for majority."

Yeah, why bother with having protest parks?
None of the 77 applications to protest was granted, and at least six documented cases of applicants being harassed :-)

lol:

고대의침:

Re: "Actually, in China people are allowed to have their own thinking and speech about themselves and others or government. It's just that they are not allowed to use the media to channel their own biased view to create problem for society and public.

One may give speech over the public rest. dinner table about how bad the government is... but he is just not allowed to use media to broadcast his own idea to direct the public that would cause conflict and disturbance for majority."

As Kenneth posted,
"... Chinese like living under this kind of system. Chinese are happy being told what to do, where to live, and they like obeying authority."

Yes "prison" life is so good, food and shelter is provided, nothing else matters.
==================================

Western “democratic” life is so good,they can entertain themselves by ignoring the all-inclusive complexity of other countries' development and instigating other developing countries to kill each other in name of "democracy."

It is not issue of democracy,who do not want? The issue is why the Western purposely pick only the thing to demonize??????????????????????????????????????????

고대의침:

Re: "Actually, in China people are allowed to have their own thinking and speech about themselves and others or government. It's just that they are not allowed to use the media to channel their own biased view to create problem for society and public.

One may give speech over the public rest. dinner table about how bad the government is... but he is just not allowed to use media to broadcast his own idea to direct the public that would cause conflict and disturbance for majority."

As Kenneth posted,
"... Chinese like living under this kind of system. Chinese are happy being told what to do, where to live, and they like obeying authority."

Yes "prison" life is so good, food and shelter is provided, nothing else matters.

Anonymous:

Anonymous:

Actually, in China people are allowed to have their own thinking and speech about themselves and others or government. It's just that they are not allowed to use the media to channel their own biased view to create problem for society and public.

One may give speech over the public rest. dinner table about how bad the government is... but he is just not allowed to use media to broadcast his own idea to direct the public that would cause conflict and disturbance for majority.

And it is one party nation, so that is why Chinese cannot beat down their only government who can manage and protect people from natural or social disasters.

If the one party does not exist, then nation collapses, and people's roof fall upon them, then history revisit Chinese as 100 years ago, local bandit, military conflict, ethnic struggle, then foreign invasion, and mostly only the majority suffer.

That's because the government loses her strength on what she suppose to do, Russia, and East Europe , and Middle East Africa are the examples, only westerner get benefit from such state, sure they can send their support and help to such urgency, but it is just show case. No and nation can stand in the feet of others.

Chinese learn from history, past period of unity and separation, and Chinese know that unity is to survive.

We walked for 3000 years, and that we still stand and remain strong because of this, so not only our heroes who sufficed their life for it, but also our commons who give up some of our individual rights to benefit the public and unity. Only those purely selfish people always calling individual rights, so they may live above the public. Once the public is fooled, then they can rob in the disordered state.

Right now, China is one party, and it is easier to unite people than two struggle against each other as US.

And in a long run, we Chinese will chase up our goal, because we are united and live in harmony. And we can focus on the real problems and change in a speedy fashion. Physics.
====================================

Well said. Democracy is so sweat when it result from or come along with a huge material prosperity; however, it is such bitter misery when it go down with poor achievement of substance.

Look at those poor African countries.Democracy becomes the most readily available tool for political thugs to overthrow existing regime and practice their horrendous murder.People in name of "democracy" can legitimately kill people labeled as "undemocratic." Proclaim of Liberty allow them break the order of the society and put their interest above anyone...If CNN allows Taliban to preach and argue before American audience,CNN will be the role model of liberty to this world.But this would not happen. What happened,though,is American inviting the Iran president over to a school campus using their English advantage to shut this president up and piecing together a fictional coverage to humiliate Iranians.That's the real humiliation to U.S,though those American involved deem that as their "success." Where is liberty?? In hell.

You often see in the western media how protesters are mistreated but they never report those grievance being solved by the government. Making audience believe a baddie China is their job to cooperate with western politic interests.

If China use the same rhetoric as western media have been doing, I can picture the western world is going to send their troop directly to solve this problem.

Anonymous:

Anonymous:

Actually, in China people are allowed to have their own thinking and speech about themselves and others or government. It's just that they are not allowed to use the media to channel their own biased view to create problem for society and public.

One may give speech over the public rest. dinner table about how bad the government is... but he is just not allowed to use media to broadcast his own idea to direct the public that would cause conflict and disturbance for majority.

And it is one party nation, so that is why Chinese cannot beat down their only government who can manage and protect people from natural or social disasters.

If the one party does not exist, then nation collapses, and people's roof fall upon them, then history revisit Chinese as 100 years ago, local bandit, military conflict, ethnic struggle, then foreign invasion, and mostly only the majority suffer.

That's because the government loses her strength on what she suppose to do, Russia, and East Europe , and Middle East Africa are the examples, only westerner get benefit from such state, sure they can send their support and help to such urgency, but it is just show case. No and nation can stand in the feet of others.

Chinese learn from history, past period of unity and separation, and Chinese know that unity is to survive.

We walked for 3000 years, and that we still stand and remain strong because of this, so not only our heroes who sufficed their life for it, but also our commons who give up some of our individual rights to benefit the public and unity. Only those purely selfish people always calling individual rights, so they may live above the public. Once the public is fooled, then they can rob in the disordered state.

Right now, China is one party, and it is easier to unite people than two struggle against each other as US.

And in a long run, we Chinese will chase up our goal, because we are united and live in harmony. And we can focus on the real problems and change in a speedy fashion. Physics.
====================================

Well said. Democracy is so sweat when it result from or come along with a huge material prosperity; however, it is such bitter misery when it go down with poor achievement of substance.

Look at those poor African countries.Democracy becomes the most readily available tool for political thugs to overthrow existing regime and practice their horrendous murder.People in name of "democracy" can legitimately kill people labeled as "undemocratic." Proclaim of Liberty allow them break the order of the society and put their interest above anyone...If CNN allows Taliban to preach and argue before American audience,CNN will be the role model of liberty to this world.But this would not happen. What happened,though,is American inviting the Iran president over to a school campus using their English advantage to shut this president up and piecing together a fictional coverage to humiliate Iranians.That's the real humiliation to U.S,though those American involved deem that as their "success." Where is liberty?? In hell.

You often see in the western media how protesters are mistreated but they never report those grievance being solved by the government. Making audience believe a baddie China is their job to cooperate with western politic interests.

If China use the same rhetoric as western media have been doing, I can picture the western world is going to send their troop directly to solve this problem.

Anonymous:

what I try to say is that we don't need all this democracy, freedom, rights... while we struggled whole life, but in the end we wasted our precious life, that we should have enjoyed but never did.---

yeaahhh.. sure.. Heil Hitler.. what are yu smoking again?

Anonymous:

what I try to say is that we don't need all this democracy, freedom, rights... while we struggled whole life, but in the end we wasted our precious life, that we should have enjoyed but never did.

people can change world, and world can change people; we enjoy sunny sky, but it is raining; still we have to find a way to enjoy it, for our own life.

No one can take away our freedom, human rights, pursuit of happiness, it is a spiritual thing that no any system or anyone else could take away from us.

Nor we have to go on the street scream in front of speaker and raise big poster that means we truly have our 'rights', we don't. Whether American or Chinese, if we must need our government or world, or other people to agree and to listen, then no one would have any absolute freedom or rights.

What we suffer it is how people define the form of matter, but we never grasp the atom of it, whether western system or eastern, collective or individual; it is not different for us whether American who can let loose themselves for whole afternoon of the weekend, and when it is done, did he get any of his freedom? rights?

There are still politicians and laws.

Or Chinese, who must not speak against their leaders, but they never trust or agree, still doing their work their own way, and still can live a life happy life with their old parents and young children.

politicians are magicians that give common a ideal, dreams, concepts with their own definition to manage over their people, whether western or eastern, China or US. They are the first to speak against others because their property is in threat; and first to huge their enemy if they find more benefits to coop.

for us, we are all common people. whatever the show they deliver we watch, but don't drop real tears, and think 'our action and belief can the world better' and this concept they advertise us to serve them.

I find it is interesting that there are many stupid Chinese and Americans, and rest of the world, that we always fooled by such scheme, and in the end, we realize we lose our valuable time life and energy to serve their purpose to benefit them and we still think we are doing for our own belief.

Compare washingtonpost and porn website, I enjoy porn; if I spend more time arguing for politics, then why not drink a beer with a lovely lady.

In the end, it is not our government that satisfy us, nor they are the purpose we live and serve; but our close ones, love ones that really company us for whole life, whether we are Chinese, American, Roman, Greek, commies, democrat, republic, Christian, Muslim or non believer, so what the hell our passport could tell what we are and our past education tell us what to believe, and even conservatives and Pope tell us how to live, or the fashion magazine tell us what to wear and what is right color of make up?

All covers! All names! All are nothing but convincing shows!

Anonymous:


truth is if we are not allowed to speak freely, then we never would have this kind of problem, and we live in peace, do what we should.

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WHAT? What are you trying to say?

Anonymous:

WTF is this crap?!

truth is if we are not allowed to speak freely, then we never would have this kind of problem, and we live in peace, do what we should.

Anonymous:

When Fang Zhaojuan began organizing her neighbors here to impeach village leaders whom she suspected of corruption, she had no idea that the challenge would lead her first to the hospital and then to jail.

She was following the law, after all, and had launched legal petitions signed by a large majority of villagers. They believed they had been cheated of proper compensation when their village council had sold land for industrial development to the government of a nearby township.

Mrs. Fang, her family, and colleagues on a recall committee, however, found themselves plunged into a violent political drama. This, they say, has shown residents of the hamlet just how narrow the boundaries remain for their democratic rights. It has also, they add, hardened their resolve to enforce them.

Huiguan, a nondescript cluster of brick houses outside the port of Tianjin, is like tens of thousands of other Chinese villages, on the verge of being swallowed up by a fast-expanding city. Its farmland has all but disappeared under new factories, and under circumstances that Fang, a 43-year-old widow, found suspicious.

"She never expected this," says her sister, Fang Zhaohui, displaying photographs of Fang's bruised and bloody body taken in the hospital six weeks ago, after thugs had broken into her home and beaten her. "She never expected it would be so difficult and that the government would be so black."

"The township government is abusing its power," complains Li Guangde, a village activist who has so far avoided jail. "They are putting difficulties in our way and a lot of pressure on us. Perhaps some township officials were involved in the land sale and maybe there was corruption. I don't know."

Democratic hopes sputter

Chinese law prescribes direct democratic elections for village councils, and provides for recalls if a majority of villagers lose faith in their leaders. "But that is only the law," cautions Yawei Liu, head of the China Program at Atlanta's Carter Center, which has worked with the Chinese authorities to strengthen village self-rule.

"Once you move into the real world it is very difficult to enforce," he adds.

Ten years ago, when China's definitive law on village elections came into effect, many officials and some foreign scholars touted it as heralding broader democracy nationwide.

Today, such hopes are sputtering. Fang's fate illustrates one key weakness of the experiment: It is very hard for grass-roots democracy to thrive in a vacuum where superior levels of government are undemocratic.

"Unless there are changes higher up, this kind of democracy cannot be sustained," fears Dr. Liu.

"At any point in the process the authoritarian system can come into play" to frustrate villagers' democratic aims, says Kevin O'Brien, a professor at the University of California, Berkeley, who has studied village governance in China for years. "This story is an example of bottom-up democracy being swamped by undemocratic people who are used to giving orders."

On the other hand, Dr. Liu points out, "the beatings and the jailings are a reflection ... that the villagers are so keenly aware of their rights there is nothing else the government can do."

Recent events in Huiguan show that "when people know they have been given some political rights, they are going to take advantage of this," adds Li Lianjiang, a village elections expert at the Chinese University of Hong Kong. "This is a positive sign of democratic growth."

Roots of dispute

The drama here began last November, when Han Baocai, an 80-year-old farmer, filed a complaint with the Tianjin municipal government about the way in which the Huiguan village council had sold more than 50 acres of commonly held land to the higher-level township government of nearby Xiaozhan.

Villagers claim now that Xiaozhan paid 10,000 RMB per mu ($8,500 per acre), and sold it to developers for 800,000 RMB per mu ($685,000 per acre), alleging that the Xiaozhan and Huiguan authorities shared the profits at the villagers' expense.

Xiaozhan deputy Communist party secretary Liang Hongbin insists that the township paid a fair market price for agricultural land and that villagers were compensated according to the law.

Party Secretary Hao Shumin acknowledges the Xiaozhan government sold the land to developers for nearly twice what it paid for it, because the land's status had changed from village agricultural land to nationally owned industrial-use land, increasing its value. But he says the price was less than a tenth of what the villagers claim.

Huiguan villagers, however, believed they had been cheated, and in January they began the process specified by the village democracy law to recall their elected council.

From the start, they say, the Xiaozhan authorities put obstacles in their way, which villagers sometimes managed to overcome by appealing to officials at higher levels of the district government hierarchy.

But with a recall committee of five villagers duly elected in February to oversee the impeachment referendum, Xiaozhan stopped sending representatives to Huiguan village meetings. Villagers complain that since the law requires all village votes to be observed by an official from the local township, the local government could nullify all their decisions simply by refusing to witness them.

The conflict sharpened with a disagreement over who had the right to participate in the recall vote. Xiaozhan government officials said eligibility restrictions imposed by Huiguan's activists were illegal, which rendered the recall process null and void.

When appeals to the Tianjin authorities to resolve the dispute went unanswered, villagers say, they went ahead with preparations for the recall vote, deciding on procedures, publishing a voter list, distributing ballots, and inviting local and district officials to witness the vote on July 5.

Violence follows vote

The day before the vote, village council president Yuan Shiwan and his two colleagues abruptly resigned. The recall vote went ahead anyway, garnering 617 votes in favor and none against, well over the 50 percent of village residents required for the motion to pass.

Despite the resignation and the vote, however, villagers said a crowd of them found Mr. Yuan and his colleagues still occupying the council offices on July 8. What happened next is unclear: Yuan claims to have been manhandled, knocked to the ground, and beaten; villagers at the scene say he was not touched.

Three days later, however, seven people including two of Yuan's sons showed up at Fang's house and beat her savagely, according to eyewitnesses who also photographed her injuries after an ambulance had taken her to hospital. One man was detained but later released, and nobody has yet been charged with the assault.

The next day Fang's son and a friend of his were arrested in connection with the alleged attack on Yuan. They were released two weeks later, and no formal charge was filed. A district court has, unusually, accepted their lawsuit against the police for wrongful arrest.

The Olympics factor

On Aug. 13, Fang and her fellow recall committee members mailed complaints about their treatment to a variety of offices, including the Supreme Court Anti-Corruption Office and the Tianjin prosecutor. But they abstained from visiting petition offices because "the government did not want anything to disturb the social order during the Olympics; they wanted a party spirit," explains Mr. Li.

The day after the Olympics closed, however, Fang and other villagers approached district officials to press their case. On their return to Fang's home, police arrested her; three other members of the recall committee; Han Baocai, the 80-year-old who had first raised the issue in contention; and one other villager, said Li, who was detained with them but released a few hours later.

The six others, and another member of the recall committee arrested later, remain in detention. They are being held on suspicion of "disturbing the social order," according to plainclothes police officer Zhang Congying, but neither Mr. Zhang nor the Xiaozhan police chief, Wang Jinting, would say what they had done to incur such suspicion.

Xiaozhan Deputy Communist Party Secretary Liang insists that Fang and her colleagues "were not arrested because of their recall effort. Nobody would be arrested for seeking to recall officials according to the law."

Consequences of direct democracy

Fang's sister, however, sees their detention as a warning to others. "If they arrest Fang Zhaojuan, other people won't dare cause any more trouble," she says. "They do it to suppress ordinary people."

A "barefoot lawyer," who is advising Huiguan's recall committee, but who asked not to be identified since he has already been jailed once for "counterrevolutionary activities," agrees.

"This case is a natural result of the social environment," he argues. "When ordinary people try to use their democratic rights, they will definitely suffer the consequences. The phenomenon of having a law supporting people's rights that they cannot actually enjoy is too common in our country."

The villagers say they are not giving up, however. "We want a fair solution to all the problems ... and a clear response to our vote," says Li. "We insist on it."

Anonymous:

And it is one party nation, so that is why Chinese cannot beat down their only government who can manage and protect people from natural or social disasters.

If the one party does not exist, then nation collapses, and people's roof fall upon them, then history revisit Chinese as 100 years ago, local bandit, military conflict, ethnic struggle, then foreign invasion, and mostly only the majority suffer.

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WTF is this crap?!

고대의침:

'Ever since Beijing won the bid to host the 2008 Olympic Games, strenuous efforts have been made to ensure that the city is ready to put its best face forward. The municipal government has poured billions of dollars into giving the capital a face-lift.

But for Beijing's harried authorities, the efforts required to put in place the physical infrastructure necessary to ensure a smooth Olympics have been matched by an even more challenging task: that of developing the "civilizational levels" of the city's average Zhou.

While the main campaign to transform Beijingers from the rude to the refined has been the charge of a special department called the Office of the Spiritual Civilization Development Steering Commission of the Communist Party of China Central Committee, BOCOG (the Beijing Organizing Committee for the Olympic Games) has also been involved.

The authorities have spent the past few years focussing in particular on five major lacunae identified in the city's social etiquette. These include: Beijing-style name-calling, casual spitting, littering, disorderly queuing and not smiling.

As a result, somewhat bemused Beijingers have been subjected to random fines for spitting, dazzled by smile campaigns and exhorted to form queues. Taxi drivers have been asked to wash more regularly, put on clean shirts and avoid eating inside their cabs. For the past several months, the 11th of each month has been designated Queuing Day, with government employees fanning out to hundreds of bus and subway stations urging people to eschew their preferred survival-of-the-fittest push-fests in favor of forming orderly lines.

The city government has also instituted a "civility-evaluation index" that ranks neighborhoods according to the level of refinement they are able to achieve by the time of the Olympics...'

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/JH08Ad01.html

Anonymous:

Edited Portrait of U.S.

和尚暴動
政客嫖娼
记者撒谎
学生射枪

Monks riot.
Politicians wench.
Reporters lie.
And pupils shoot.
God bless America:)

Anonymous:

Actually, in China people are allowed to have their own thinking and speech about themselves and others or government. It's just that they are not allowed to use the media to channel their own biased view to create problem for society and public.

One may give speech over the public rest. dinner table about how bad the government is... but he is just not allowed to use media to broadcast his own idea to direct the public that would cause conflict and disturbance for majority.

And it is one party nation, so that is why Chinese cannot beat down their only government who can manage and protect people from natural or social disasters.

If the one party does not exist, then nation collapses, and people's roof fall upon them, then history revisit Chinese as 100 years ago, local bandit, military conflict, ethnic struggle, then foreign invasion, and mostly only the majority suffer.

That's because the government loses her strength on what she suppose to do, Russia, and East Europe , and Middle East Africa are the examples, only westerner get benefit from such state, sure they can send their support and help to such urgency, but it is just show case. No and nation can stand in the feet of others.

Chinese learn from history, past period of unity and separation, and Chinese know that unity is to survive.

We walked for 3000 years, and that we still stand and remain strong because of this, so not only our heroes who sufficed their life for it, but also our commons who give up some of our individual rights to benefit the public and unity. Only those purely selfish people always calling individual rights, so they may live above the public. Once the public is fooled, then they can rob in the disordered state.

Right now, China is one party, and it is easier to unite people than two struggle against each other as US.

And in a long run, we Chinese will chase up our goal, because we are united and live in harmony. And we can focus on the real problems and change in a speedy fashion. Physics.

Citizen of the post-American world:

Anonymous ("Around the world, ... and the masses are dancing to its tune." September 1, 2008 7:29 PM)

Yours is a masterpiece. Much valuable, credible documentation indeed exists, which substantiates the facts that you present.

Unfortunately, the media and the American population as a result, care very little to delve into those “causes” you refer to. Very seldom do American pundits even ask the questions: "WHY is this happening?" or "WHY has that happened?", with regard to political events on the international scene. Too many may have come to believe in "The End of History", as per Fuyukama, taking that view as an encouragement to neglect acquiring a sound knowledge of modern and of contemporary world history.

It seems therefore imperative that, as one presidential candidate put it, be created in this country "a system of high-quality education for all", which favours critical thinking. The 21st century is well on its way, after all; and doesn't this country claim to be the wealthiest in the world?

Anonymous:

On Monday evening, the first day of the new academic year, the Ministry of Education ordered all primary and middle school children to watch The First Lesson of the New Term, a brightly-lit variety show which skillfully weaved together China's "Olympic spirit" and its fortitude in the face of disaster.

Parents were required to sign a chit to certify that their child had watched the spectacle.

The state media said the show would teach children practical lessons for "self-protection in such natural disasters as earthquakes, fire, snowstorm or floods".

However, the effect of the show was rather to mythologise the strength and ingenuity of the Chinese.

Over the course of the show, Yao Ming, the basketball star, played a tug of war against one group of primary school children, while another troop competed with the Chinese weightlifting team to see who could evacuate the quickest through a pretend classroom door.

The children from the Sangzao middle school in Mianyang, close to the quake's epicentre, won easily. The school was praised for having attained a time of one minute 36 seconds in a real-life evacuation drill.

Both the young girls, Lin Miaoke, 9, and Yang Peiyi, 7, who were involved in the lip-synching controversy during the opening ceremony of the Beijing Games, appeared together on stage to sing.

Several schoolchildren from Sichuan were filmed watching happily from light blue school desks dotted around the studio as the set filled with rainbows and sunflowers. The children who perished in the crumbling middle schools in Dujiangyan were glossed over, however, as were the hundreds of orphans who still have to find a home.

The upbeat message went down well with 11-year-old Wang Xingyi, who was watching with her parents in a suburb of east Shanghai. "I learned about self-reliance, strength, courage and perseverance," she said, adding: "It showed me how to behave in a dangerous place and how valuable teamwork is."

She also said she admired Li Zhongyun, whose story about falling into a ravine in 2004 and surviving for seven days was reconstructed on the programme. "Her story shows us that it is important to be very strong.

"If she had been weaker and less determined she would have died," she said.

Meanwhile her father, Wang Jun, 41, had the "ultimate collection" of magazines displaying pictures of the wreckage of the earthquake, which claimed a reported 70,000 lives.

"What is most important is to be self-reliant and to rebuild their homeland and not to rely on help from outside," said his wife, Xu Dong. The family admitted there was little risk of an earthquake in Shanghai.

Anonymous:

Sept. 1 (Xinhua) -- Sudanese First Vice President Salva Kiir Mayardit met on Monday with visiting Chinese Assistant Foreign Minister Zhai Jun who was here as a special envoy of the Chinese government.

During the meeting, the Chinese envoy conveyed greetings of Chinese President Hu Jintao and Vice President Xi Jinping to Salva Kiir, who is also the president of the government of South Sudan.

The two sides exchanged views on bilateral relations, the peace process between North and South Sudan, the Darfur issue, among others.

Following the meeting, the Chinese and Sudanese sides signed a document on financial assistance which the Chinese government would provide to the government of South Sudan.

Also on Monday, Zhai and Salva Kiir inaugurated a Chinese general consulate in Juba, the capital of South Sudan.  

Anonymous:

The corpse-selling operation was designed to help wealthy families to avoid having to cremate their relatives.

Cremation is mandatory in most areas of Guangdong. Proper burials, traditionally an important sign of Confucian filial piety, were outlawed by the Communist Party in many areas in order to conserve farmland and avoid superstition.

Families who bought corpses from the group swapped them with their own relatives and sent them off for cremation. They could then bury their loved ones in secret.

As many as 400 people may have been killed, according to Apple Daily, a Hong Kong newspaper which conducted an investigation into the practice.

The victims were usually followed and then strangled in the rural areas of Yangmei, Nanxi, Puning and Jieyang and then sold in the Chaoshan Region, a rich urbanised part of the province.

According to one villager, Liu Shiduo, a young couple had been attacked with a rope on the evening of August 11 but had got away from their attackers and reported them to the police. During the subsequent raids, one suspect revealed the operation. The rest of the group was rounded up on the basis of his confession.

The newspaper said the gang drove their minibus up behind elderly or mentally-ill victims, grabbed them and then either strangled them or poisoned them. It was considered bad luck to spill their blood. The corpses were then sold for around 10,000 yuan each (£800).

According to other villagers, the practise has been going on for several years, and there are a number of missing people in almost every village. Parents in Yangmei have imposed a curfew on their children.

The Public Security Department in Guangdong declined to comment on the story, while the local police station in Puning denied there had been a spree of murders.

Last year, Chinese police arrested a man who killed six women in Hebei so that he could sell their bodies for "weddings of the dead".

Arranged marriages for the dead are another ancient tradition in some parts of China and it is widely rumoured that "ghost brides" are also available in Guangdong. Song Tiantang, the suspect, admitted that he had started selling brides in 1998.

In Guangdong's rural areas, burials are sometimes permitted but for a fee ranging from 10,000 to 30,000 yuan. Officials have been known to dig up decomposing corpses if relatives have not paid their dues, a practise that has caused widespread anger.

Eighteen cemetery officials in Hong Kong have been arrested for taking bribes to allow bodies buried in the island's overcrowded graveyards to be dug up from temporary graves.

The Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) said staff were alleged to have allowed exhumation in cases where the lease on the plot had expired but the occupant had not fully decomposed.

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kenneth:

Yes, the Olympics were a success - only for Chinese.

As a visitor to the Olympics, China is still a one-party, police state that controls information and censors the news.

I have no problem with that since Chinese like living under this kind of system. Chinese are happy being told what to do, where to live, and they like obeying authority. I also got the impression they like to be told what to think. It seems they all think alike.

Outsiders should respect Chinese customs. This is their country. They can organize it and run the way they want.

I'm just glad I'm not Chinese.
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We are happy you are not.LOL. Be careful you are poisoned by your media's unanimous,selective distortion and disinformation.You bashers think alike.-Gosh,why I waste my words for such incurable ignorant...

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After reading comments like the one below mine by "Kenneth", it is hard not to conclude that people of U.S. are the most stupid thing in the world. Talking to stupidity is like massaging a piece of rock.

kenneth:

Yes, the Olympics were a success - only for Chinese.

As a visitor to the Olympics, China is still a one-party, police state that controls information and censors the news.

I have no problem with that since Chinese like living under this kind of system. Chinese are happy being told what to do, where to live, and they like obeying authority. I also got the impression they like to be told what to think. It seems they all think alike.

Outsiders should respect Chinese customs. This is their country. They can organize it and run the way they want.

I'm just glad I'm not Chinese.

Rogge:

"During the Olympics, China quashed all applications from people hoping to demonstrate in officially sanctioned "protest pens." Police also stopped protests by foreigners sympathetic to the pro-Tibet movement.

But one Chinese man succeeded at breaking through the security dragnet, protesting briefly in Ritan Park with his young son and a sign that read, "Shandong Huimin County government illegally sold my grandmother's house and took away the money!"

Now, the family says, the man's 73-year-old mother is being harassed by the police in retaliation. Their story is a slice of Beijing life that largely escaped view during the Olympic Games and a reminder of the surveillance that continues through the Paralympic Games, which begin Saturday."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/01/AR2008090102351.html?hpid=sec-world

Anonymous:

quote from "play of great nations":
------约在2007年中,美国,加拿大,英国和澳洲,开始了一场
媒体宣传战,开始在电视上对中国进行抹黑,宣扬中国在新疆对维吾尔族进行灭绝政策。-----这场宣传战的目的是多重的,其中一个是为了在加拿大,英国和澳洲为接收 关塔纳摩仍关押的20余名维吾尔族的圣战分子作准备。美国曾在全世界推销这些恐怖分子,但被多数国家拒绝,只有4名情节较轻的被阿尔巴尼亚接受(看在美国 造成科索沃独立份上),但被严格限制行动自由,如同坐牢。-----在美国,则有号称政治独立的公共电视台(PBS)制作了一个专
题,由一位华裔年轻女记者Serene Fang施展全身解数,尽力误导对新疆一无所知的美国民众。-----
------In 2007, US, Canada, Britain, and Australia started a propaganda campaign, showing some news program to blacken China for her dealings of ‘genocide’ in XingJiang province where most of Weiuer ethnic dwelled there.-----
-----The PBS Channel holds the name of independent view public service channel produced a documentation file, that involving an American Born Chinese young woman reporter, Serene Fang, offered all her talents to purposed mislead the American public, (the viewers who had pitch-dark sense) about XingJiang.
-------其中一个场面是方记者问一个汉族的没文化的男司机,有没有考虑娶个维吾尔族太太。这个司机说不会,主要原因是生活方式不同,结婚后不能吃大肉(猪 肉)。------ 然后,在被问到为什么维吾尔族不吃猪肉,这个笨头笨脑的司机说,据说猪是维吾尔族的祖先。当然我们知道,中国的各民族之间不排除存在很多带有偏见的 传闻,甚至有的人还有歧视其他民族的坏现象,但是方女士的导读方法却是万分恶毒。-----听完这个司机的见解,她马上面对镜头说,这种歧视维吾尔人的态度,其实是 所有中国人(要记住,西方媒体的中国人只是汉族中国人,所有非汉族中国人是“中国人”,他们的居住地也不是中国,而是中国非法占领殖民地)的态度。------
------She picked an uneducated Han male driver and asked him about whether he thought of a marriage with a Weiuer wife. The driver said no, and provided his reason of difference of lifestyle that mainly referring about he could not eat pork in such marriage.----
------after her listening of the driver’s view, she immediately faced the camera and said: “This discriminated view and attitude toward Weiuer exists on every Chinese(what she defined Chinese that are Han ethnic as most westerners saw)------
-----看了这个节目,估计西方的观众会很讨厌中国人,而开始同情那些关塔纳摩的自由战士。而且从这位华裔的记者口里说出来,估计公信力会更高。有些美国的穆斯林看到这里,就开始签名要抵制北京奥运会了。看来中国的媒体在学习美国同行的本事上,有好长一段路要走。-----
----After watching the CBS program, I guess most westerners would hate Chinese, and started to grow some compassion about those east-Turkistan freedom fighters. Especially such view was pronounced by a Chinese American, would give more authentic proof to the viewers. So there were some American Muslim saw the program, and decided to protest and sign names to reject Beijing Olympics. In comparison, the Chinese Media is a long to catch with American Media.---- (There are a few parts interesting so I did a translate)
Actually freedom of speech is a religion that creates more troubles to human society than any others, that the nature of men does not love good but lust evil. So such religion is always been manipulated by an individual or a group for seeking benefit over others.
I personally do not see any hope from American belief that mixing gun rights as democracy, and freedom of speech of biased view, and rights of individual pursuit of happiness for greed. And the laws are produced by scribes to protect their senate of the rich with unequal power over the commons that only sleep in a founded dream. And their media played a major part in this paralyzed society, defines evil and good, pointing finger as the wind directs, toward Local or Federal, Democrat or Republic, terrorists or freedom fighters, enemy or friend.

Jiang Hu:

"President Ma Ying-jeou told an Italian weekly magazine that the situation across the Taiwan
Strait is different from that of Georgia and Russia, thanks to thawing ties with China and the U.S. commitment to helping Taiwan maintain adequate defense capability.

He noted that the Taiwan Relations Act enacted by the United States in 1979 is a piece of formal legislation under which the United States makes available items necessary for Taiwan to maintain adequate defense capability.

Furthermore, over the past 20 years, a wide-ranging socio-economic network has been established across the Taiwan Strait, which is sufficient to repair any form of hostility between the two sides, according to the president. Both sides have also expressed the desire to forge a peace treaty if possible, he said."

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/foreign%20affairs/2008/08/31/172607/Cross-strait-situation.htm

Anonymous:

Around the world, Beijing’s hosting of the 2008 Olympic Games has become the target of unprecedented, well-orchestrated and extremely hostile mass protests.

Meanwhile, geostrategic realities, and historical and current parapolitical fact, suggest that the protesters and passionate activists (in time-honored form) have once again become the willing dupes, propaganda shills, and street bullies for “causes” created, fronted, and pushed by Anglo-American intelligence agencies (CIA, British intelligence, etc.) that continue to target a government (this time Beijing), in a host of long-term subversion and sabotage plans.

Tibet: imperial pawn

Behind the powerful din created by the popular and celebrity-embraced “Save Tibet,” campaign is the fact that the CIA is behind the Tibet independence movement.

According to many reports, the Dalai Lama himself may be a long-time CIA asset. See The Role of the CIA behind the Dalai Lama's holy cloak and The Tibet Card.

In addition to being geostrategically situated, Tibet is also rich with oil and gas, and minerals -- and this is just part of the larger superpower warfare between the US and China. See Tibet, the "great game", and the CIA.

The legions of pro-Tibet activists also seem largely unaware of the historical fact that the “holy land of compassion” has been a CIA pawn since the end of World War II. The infamous Tolstoi Mission sent CIA operatives into Tibet, with plans to establish it as a US military base, from which the US could control the entire Asian region. This activity flourished under the US-supported, opium-banked Nationalist Kuomintang regime of Chiang Kai-Shek.

When the Communists rose to power, the CIA trained Tibetans in guerrilla tactics to use against the regime in Peking, and thousands of Tibetans lost their lives in these battles. Who benefited? Who really gave the orders then -- and who is driving the agenda now?

There is little doubt that Anglo-American interests continue to use Tibet, exploit the image of Tibet as a holy place under siege, and bamboozle naïve (and well-heeled) outside activists with slick marketing, in order to undermine Beijing.

Denunciations of Beijing’s brutal crackdowns do not take into account the covert operations and outside infiltrations that triggered the crackdowns in the first place.

Outside forces behind Falun Gong

On the surface, and to uncritical eyes, practitioners of the practice of Falun Gong, a school of Chinese qi gong, are the innocent victims of horrific suppression by Beijing. In a situation parallel to the crackdowns in Tibet, it is also a fact that Falun Gong has been the recipient of years of vicious crackdowns and human rights atrocities across China.

But just as is the case with Tibet, there is more to the Falun Gong case than simple persecution. Outside political forces and corporate interests can be found pushing Falun Gong into increasingly political activities, including well-funded, well-organized, and ubiquitous worldwide protests against the Chinese Communist Party.

Among the foreign (predominantly Western) Friends of Falun Gong, we find the likes of Mark Palmer of Freedom House. Freedom House is a quasi-intelligence front created by the CIA-connected Open Society Institute of elite George Soros. In addition to Palmer, Freedom House has counted among its top management the former CIA Director James Woolsey, neocons Bernie Aronson and Diana Negroponte, super elite Zbigniew Brzezinski, former Clinton National Security Advisor Anthony Lake, Clinton Commerce Secretary Stuart Eizenstat, and the late Congressman Tom Lantos and his wife.

Freedom House is backed by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), which former CIA agent Philip Agee, and many others have amply documented, is a US intelligence apparatus that has been a driving force behind opposition forces (“democracy revolutions”) in many countries.

As pointed out by William Blum in his book, Rogue State, the CIA has created a host of “Trojan horses” such as the NED specifically to subvert foreign countries, under the guise of humanitarianism:

“The NED was set up in the early 1980s under President Reagan in the wake of the negative revelations about the CIA, in the second half of the 1970s . . . The idea was that the NED would do somewhat overtly what the CIA had been doing covertly for decades, and thus, hopefully, eliminate the stigma associated with CIA covert activities.

“It was a masterpiece. Of politics, of public relations and of cynicism.

“The National Endowment for Democracy was set up to 'support democratic institutions throughout the world through private, nongovernmental efforts' . . . In actuality, every penny of its funding comes from the federal government . . . NED likes to refer to itself as an NGO (non-governmental organization). The NED is a 'GO.'

“In a multitude of ways, the NED meddles in the internal affairs of foreign countries . . . In short, NED’s programs are in sync with the basic needs and objectives of the New World Order’s economic globalization, just as the programs have for years been on the same wavelength as US foreign policy.

“The NED, like the CIA before it, calls what it does supporting democracy. The governments and movements whom the NED targets call it destabilization.”

An analysis conducted in 1999 (during the Clinton administration) offers a glimpse of the NED’s role behind a long list of “democracy” fronts -- including Tibet independence and Falun Gong. Just imagine what this list looks like today, in a time of war, spearheaded by the Bush-Cheney milieu.

For legitimate reasons, Beijing clearly suspects US and CIA involvement behind Falun Gong. Denunciations of human rights offenses committed against Falun Gong, however legitimate, are one-sided if they do not also take into account the funding and co-opting of the group by outside political forces.

Manipulation behind Darfur

Similar to the “Save Tibet” movement, the “Save Darfur”/“Stop Darfur Genocide” movement has become a worldwide cause celebre, embraced and trumpeted by a host of Hollywood celebrities and headline-loving political bigwigs, and aggressive activists. While this cause is continuously promoted by propaganda, and one-sided “Hotel Rwanda” type fare, the real geostrategic game being played in Africa is being largely ignored.

China and the US are just one of many nations whose political and corporate interests are battling over which controls the energy spoils in Darfur, and the entire horn of Africa.

It is not just China doing business there. In fact, the Western oil companies have engaged in far more aggressive activities, for many years more.

Darfur is brimming with covert operations, and Anglo-American military-intelligence involvement behind tribal warfare, elections, cross-border military skirmishes, and massacres is undeniable.

In other words, there is a “great game” being played in Africa, just as there is one being played around Tibet. Through propaganda, China is being made into the single arch-villain.

Off-target passions, easily manipulated

Virtually every government on the planet is guilty of human rights abuses, and these abuses deserve to be exposed and protested. But to simplemindedly (and, with more than a little racism thrown in) protest China, based on human rights “causes” created, manipulated, and co-opted by Anglo-American intelligence propaganda is to fall directly into the hands of the exponentially greater violators of human rights all over the world: the United States and its allies.

Indeed, activists and protesters all over the world must ask themselves whose side they are really on, and to whose orders are they marching? The vast majority of both pro- and anti-Chinese protesters fail to acknowledge the complexities underlying their pet causes, or the corruption poisoning the situation from every side.

Far from actually alleviating any suffering in Darfur, Tibet or within China itself, activists are being guided into deepening the suffering; assisting the Anglo-American empire’s own plans to destabilize and conquer (energy-rich and strategically situated) Africa and (energy-rich and strategically situated) Tibet, and politically hamper Beijing.

China is the target of long-term US military and political aggression. A full-blown superpower conflict is underway. China is being simultaneously used as the labor engine for the world’s capitalist economy, while being geostrategically and militarily encircled. China is also in the process of being financially seized and gutted by the World Trade Organization. Every move made by the Beijing government, particularly for its own stakes in oil and gas, have been violently contested by the Western powers.

China’s attempted rise to the world stage, out of decades of isolation, is headed off by rapacious US-led machinations. Today’s anti-Chinese Olympics protests are simply the latest manifestation.

It is no surprise that US presidential aspirants Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have jumped on the anti-Chinese Olympic boycott bandwagon, joining the worldwide anti-China propaganda noise. It is now politically expedient for all of the presidential nominees, as well as the Bush-Cheney administration, to hammer at Beijing, without bothering to mention the true complexities of US-China politics.

It is tragically ironic that the predominantly Western/developed market-based “Save Tibet” and “Save Darfur” activists and anti-China protesters have done relatively little, if anything to “save themselves.”

Compared to the militant zeal expended against China, relatively little passion or outrage has been aimed at the Bush-Cheney administration. These “activists” would rather focus on “saving those poor Tibetans and Africans,” even as their own human rights, liberties, material assets and well being have been systematically ripped away, by an openly criminal administration that (with the help of a corrupt Supreme Court, Congress, Wall Street, the Federal Reserve, etc.) enjoys absolute unchecked power.

The “Save Tibet,” “Save Darfur,” and “Help Falun Gong” movements are as deceptive as the “war on terrorism.” The “causes” are controlled by Anglo-American intelligence apparatuses and/or co-opted by them, in order to provide the masses with the propaganda justification for wars and intervention, and resource conquest.

The CIA’s “mighty Wurlitzer” has never been more deafening, and the masses are dancing to its tune.

Jiang Hu:

"One of most discussed aspects of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit in Dushanbe over the weekend was the third point of the summit declaration devoted to the situation in South Ossetia.

It is true that SCO countries did not sign on to Russia's initiative and recognize Abkhazia's and South Ossetia's independence. But Moscow had little hope of that happening, knowing that most of those countries are contending with their own domestic separatist movements. In any case, President Dmitry Medvedev did not call for such a step during his official remarks in Dushanbe.

The current disagreement between Russia and the United States over the Georgian conflict has strengthened interest in the SCO. Although the U.S.-European bloc remains the most influential in the world, the separate regional power centers in Russia, China and Iran are rivals to the West in their own rights. Moreover, an increasing number of Russia's neighbors, including SCO members, understand very well that a good relationship with Russia is the best guarantor of their security and territorial integrity.

The role of the SCO will increase in importance as Russia and China combine their common interests."

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/articles/detail.php?ID=370613&print=Y

Anonymous:

ST. PAUL –A peaceful protest near the site of the Republican National Convention Monday gave way to acts of violence as some demonstrators smashed windows, punctured car tires and threw bottles during an anti-war march, St. Paul police said.

Police used pepper spray in some confrontations with demonstrators and arrested five. They’re accused of setting fire to a trash bin and pushing it into a police car, according to local police.

Nearly 10,000 veterans and protesters marched through the streets of St. Paul to the state Capitol, chanting anti-war slogans as a helicopter hovered over them and police stood guard in riot gear.

“Hey, hey. Ho, Ho, the war in Iraq has got to go,” they chanted.

“One, two, three, four. We don’t want your racist war,” another chant went. “Five, six, seven eight. We will not cooperate.”

“Get up. Get down. There’s an anti-war march in this town.”

The rally was organized by the Coalition to March Against the RNC and Stop the War. The protesting groups included Iraq Veterans Against the War, Women for Peace, the American Indian Movement, Latinos Against War and the Teamsters union.

“We’re very excited to have such a diversity of people participating in our demonstration,” coalition member Katrina Plotz said, adding that the rally will “send a clear anti-war message to the Republicans and the world.”

Organizers anticipated 50,000 protesters but police estimated 8,000 to 10,000.

Demonstrators blamed Republicans and the Bush administration for paying more attention to war than to domestic issues.

“The demonstration will be voicing opposition to the war’s prioritization above human needs, such as building levees, the economy and health care,” Meredith Aby, a coalition member said.

Protesters carried American flags and signs saying, “Who Would Jesus torture?” and “Build Bridges, Not Bombs.”

Once protesters arrived at the state Capitol for the peace rally, political spectacles abound.

One protester danced to a satirical song, “Insane in the McCain Brain,” that parodied the popular 1990s rap hit, “Insane in the Membrane.” The dancing protester wore a mask of John McCain with a baseball cap turned sideways and a dollar sign medallion hanging from a gold chain.

The song’s chorus blared from a speaker: “One hundred years in Iraq.”

On his second song, the dancer was joined by a fellow protester wearing a President Bush mask. They changed into Hawaiian shirts to dance to “Bomb Iran,” mimicking McCain’s own satirical take during the primaries on the Beach Boys’ “Barbara Ann.”

Among the protesters were Carlos and Meliva Arredondo, whose son, Alexander Arredondo, a U.S. soldier who was killed in Iraq in 2004. The Arredondos pushed a mock casket draped in an American flag to honor the memory of their son.

“One of the reasons why we are here as well is the Republican Party has often stated that they’re continuing the wars, especially the war in Iraq, as a way of honoring the troops,” she said, calling that stupid logic. “Alexander did not die to be part of a presidential platform.”

Some onlookers were displeased by the march. Former U.S. Marine Bryan Haglund, who served in Iraq in 2005, 2006 and 2007, said the march “sickened” him.

Others were supportive.

“That’s what this country is about: freedom of speech,” Janet Lowe said.

On the weekend, authorities seized weapons and devices froma self-described anarchist group called the RNC Welcoming Committee. The devices were designed to disable buses, the sheriff’s office said. Five people from that group were arrested on suspcion of conspiracy to riot, conspiracy to commit civil disorder and conspiracy to damage property, the sheriff’s office said.

Anonymous:

The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.

Indeed, the United States leads the world in producing prisoners, a reflection of a relatively recent and now entirely distinctive American approach to crime and punishment. Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars, more than any other nation, according to data maintained by the International Center for Prison Studies at King's College London.

Anonymous:

Campaign finance scandal

On August 14, 2008, shortly following rival party KMT legislator's press conference announcing the existence of a request for money laundering investigation assistance letter from the Swiss government, the former president called an evening press conference and admitted that his past election campaigns had misstated election finance expenses, and had leftover monies in campaign coffers forwarded to overseas accounts. Chen stated during the conference, "My conscience has told me that I cannot continue to lie to myself or to others, so I will choose to be bluntly honest: I have, in the past, committed deeds that are against the rule of law, and I am willing, for all campaign finance dishonesty from my four elections for mayor and for president, to apologize to the people" (良心告訴我,不能再繼續騙自己騙別人,決定選擇坦白,我曾經做了法律所不許可的事情,我願意就從市長到總統的四次選舉,有關競選經費的申報不實,逕向全國民眾道歉!).[18]

Chen claims that the money was wired overseas by his wife and without his knowing. There is also an investigation launched by Swiss authorities over a Swiss bank account bearing Chen's daughter-in-law's name: roughly $31 million USD was wired to the account from Taiwan and was then forwarded again to an account in the Cayman Islands. Swiss and Taiwan authorities are cooperating in investigating whether or not there are instances of money laundering committed by members of the former first family. It is unknown whether or not the wiring of the Swiss accounts and the wiring of campaign money overseas by Mrs. Chen are related. [19] Chen and his wife are currently restricted from leaving Taiwan.

Chen's August 14 admittance was a stunning reversal to just one day earlier, on August 13, when he vehemently denied a Next Magazine story which reported the same story.

The following day, August 15, Chen announced that both he and his wife will leave the Democratic Progressive Party for good from the fallout of the previous day's admittance.[20]

Reaction to Chen's admittance has been negative. Former DPP chairman Shih Ming-teh (1994-96), claimed to have been eating while Chen called his press conference, and threw his chopsticks down in anger upon hearing his confession.[21] Chen's vice-president for throughout his eight years, Annette Lu, has said, "If I had not heard it with my own ears, I would not have believed it; I am still in disbelief. Any person who genuinely loves Taiwan will not wire money of contributors and of the people overseas. The former first family have affronted Taiwan and the Taiwanese people" (「如果不是親耳聽他(指陳前總統)告訴我,我還不願相信,任何愛台灣的人,不該把支持者跟人民的錢匯出去,前第一家庭對不起台灣,對不起台灣人。」).[22]

Chen Shui-bian and his wife Wu Shu-jen, on August 15, resigned from the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) and apologized, thusly: “Today I have to say sorry to all of the DPP members and supporters. I let everyone down, caused you humiliation and failed to meet your expectations. My acts have caused irreparable damage to the party. I love the DPP deeply and am proud of being a DPP member. To express my deepest regrets to all DPP members and supporters, I announce my withdrawal from the DPP immediately. My wife Wu Shu-jen is also withdrawing from the party.” DPP Chairwoman Tsai Ing-wen also apologized to the public on behalf of the party: “In regard to Chen and his wife’s decision to withdraw from the party and his desire to shoulder responsibility for his actions as well as to undergo an investigation by the party’s anti-corruption committee, we respect his decision and accept it.”[23] Taiwan prosecutors on August 16 interrogated Wu Shu-chen and asked to explain overseas money transactions. A Kuomintang (KMT) party member alleged that Chen's wife bought jewelry to launder money. Hung Hsiu-chu, KMT, charged that Chen's family opened 4 bank accounts in Switzerland, with total deposits of 32 million U.S. dollars, which Chen remitted through his daughter-in-law, Huang Jui-ching.[24]

On August 17, Supreme Court Prosecutor's Office announced Taiwanese investigators took away boxes of documents, after search of Chen's home in Taipei City, his office, and in Tainan, at the home of his wife's brother Wu Ching-mao. Chen was prohibited by prosecutors from leaving Taiwan. Chen has $ 21 million at overseas banks held in the name of family members.[25] Shih Ming-teh, a former leader of Chen's Democratic Progressive Party accused Chen of laundering at least $ 85 million from an entrepreneur bidding for bank ownership in 2005.[26] Coast Guard Administration spokesman Hsieh Ching-chin said: "We received the order from the special investigation unit around 9:20 pm last night saying former president Chen was barred from leaving the country." Chen's probe concerns NT $ 14.8 million (US $ 480,500) in special expenses from the government, while he was president, and his wife is on trial for corruption and document forgery. Prosecutors found at least NT $ 1.5 million had been spent on diamond rings and other luxury items for his wife.[27] Upon his return to Taiwan, Chen's son claimed that he was a mere "figurehead," and was not directly involved in the transfer of money. [28]

Chen commented upon the public's suspicions that he had engaged in money laundering by colorfully stating: "Money is dry, it cannot be washed (laundered); money is clean, not dirty, it does not need to be washed (laundered)." (錢是乾的,是不能洗;錢是乾淨的,沒有髒,是不需要洗).[29]

Anonymous:

The East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM, Turkish:Doğu Türkistan İslâm Hareketi) is a militant, Uyghur organization that advocates the creation of an independent, Islamic state of East Turkestan, formally part of Afghanistan in what is currently the Xinjiang region of the People's Republic of China. The founder and leader of the organization was Hasan Mahsum, who was shot and killed by the Pakistani Army on October 2, 2003.

ETIM is considered a terrorist organization by the governments of China, Kazakhstan, Pakistan and the United States, as well as the United Nations.[1][2][3][4]

The Chinese government blamed ETIM members for several car bomb attacks in Xinjiang in the 1990s, as well as the death of a Chinese diplomat in Kyrgyzstan in 2002, but the group has neither admitted nor denied such accusations.

ETIM has had, and may still have links with Al-Qaeda. In its 2005 report on terrorism, the US State Department said that the group was "linked to al-Qaida and the international jihadist movement" and that Al-Qaeda provided the group with "training and financial assistance".[5] In January 2002, the Chinese government released a report in which it showed proof that Hasan Mahsum met with Osama bin Laden in 1999 and received promises of money, and that bin Laden sent "scores of terrorists" into China.[6] However, ETIM leader Hasan Mahsum denied such organizational ties and alleged China exaggerates such claims as a means of enlisting support from the United States.[7][5]

quote from "play of great nations":

约在2007年中,美国,加拿大,英国和澳洲,开始了一场
媒体宣传战,开始在电视上对中国进行抹黑,宣扬中国在新疆对维吾尔族进行灭绝政策。这场宣传战的目的是多重的,其中一个是为了在加拿大,英国和澳洲为接收关塔纳摩仍关押的20余名维吾尔族的圣战分子作准备。美国曾在全世界推销这些恐怖分子,但被多数国家拒绝,只有4名情节较轻的被阿尔巴尼亚接受(看在美国造成科索沃独立份上),但被严格限制行动自由,如同坐牢。在美国,则有号称政治独立的公共电视台(PBS)制作了一个专
题,由一位华裔年轻女记者Serene Fang施展全身解数,尽力误导对新疆一无所知的美国民众。

其中一个场面是方记者问一个汉族的没文化的男司机,有没有考虑娶个维吾尔族太太。这个司机说不会,主要原因是生活方式不同,结婚后不能吃大肉(猪肉)。然后,在被问到为什么维吾尔族不吃猪肉,这个笨头笨脑的司机说,据说猪是维吾尔族的祖先。当然我们知道,中国的各民族之间不排除存在很多带有偏见的传闻,甚至有的人还有歧视其他民族的坏现象,但是方女士的导读方法却是万分恶毒。听完这个司机的见解,她马上面对镜头说,这种歧视维吾尔人的态度,其实是所有中国人(要记住,西方媒体的中国人只是汉族中国人,所有非汉族中国人是“中国人”,他们的居住地也不是中国,而是中国非法占领殖民地)的态度。

看了这个节目,估计西方的观众会很讨厌中国人,而开始同情那些关塔纳摩的自由战士。而且从这位华裔的记者口里说出来,估计公信力会更高。有些美国的穆斯林看到这里,就开始签名要抵制北京奥运会了。看来中国的媒体在学习美国同行的本事上,有好长一段路要走。

Anonymous:

It was an exchange of cultural gifts that should have fostered a greater sense of mutual appreciation between two cities, one in China, the other in Italy.

When Florence gave a bronze reproduction of Michelangelo’s David to Ningbo to help boost trade ties, the Chinese city reciprocated. The trouble was, it did so by donating two enormous and unprepossessing stone sculptures for which the Florentine authorities have struggled to find a suitable home.

The two pieces, a smiling warrior and a bureaucrat, are reproductions of Tang dynasty figures. Weighing in at 4 tonnes each and standing almost 4m tall, they bear little resemblance to the delicate statues associated with Florence.

Residents have made it clear they find them ugly and overbearing and do not want them on show. Ever since they arrived last year, the vast socialist realist monoliths have been stashed in a warehouse, gathering dust, despite instructions from the Chinese to place them near greenery and running water.

Officials in Florence cannot persuade resident committees to accept the statues.

“How about an international location, like the airport,” the committee chairman, Giuseppe d’Eugenio told newspaper Corriere Fiorentino after he refused the statues.

Matters would have rested there had it not been for the decision by the Chinese to send a delegation to Italy this month to inspect the cultural artifacts.

Officials are casting around for somewhere for the statues before the delegation arrives.

It was all a different story when the Michelangelo reproduction was unveiled to fireworks and live TV coverage in Ningbo.

Ningbo said the exchange reflected the “success of dialogue between East and West.”

Rodney King :

White men shut the f**k up.

Yang Jia case:

"Yang reportedly told investigators that his attack was revenge for mistreatment last October by police who had accused him of stealing bicycles. Local media said that Yang claimed he was beaten during questioning. Police denied the accusations.

Psychiatrists have determined that Yang was aware of his crimes and that he was mentally fit to stand trial for them."

http://en.rian.ru/world/20080901/116427730.html

Anonymous:

杀人放火:
"An unemployed Beijing man who killed six policemen and injured another four in a knife attack in Shanghai was sentenced to death at the Shanghai No.2 People's Intermediate Court.

Yang stabbed a security guard at the police branch in Zhabei District and started a fire at its gate at about 9:40 a.m. on July.1.

He then forced his way into the building and attacked nine police officers, according to the prosecution."

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/6490719.html

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Have they told why he atacked this police station?

Anonymous:

Taiwan should go ahead with plans to develop long-range cruise missiles capable of striking China even though its ties with Beijing are now warming, a ruling party lawmaker said Monday.

Shuai Hua-ming of President Ma Ying-jeou's Nationalists said the island should continue developing tactical weapons such as the Hsiung Feng IIE surface-to-surface cruise missile, a program started during the administration of Ma's predecessor, Chen Shui-bian.

Unlike Ma, Chen favored formal independence for Taiwan, a stance that enraged Beijing.

"Because the mainland keeps developing missiles with higher precision and longer ranges, we must keep up our weapons programs intact," Shuai, an influential retired army general, told the AP.

Taiwan reportedly test-fired a Hsiung Feng IIE missile with a range of 380 miles in October 2004, but its military has never displayed or deployed it.

China Times, a leading Taiwanese newspaper, reported Monday that the military also test-fired an advanced Hsiung Feng with a range of 480 miles in January 2008, but may now halt work on it in line with Ma's attempts to improve relations with China.

China and Taiwan split amid civil war in 1949. Beijing continues to view the island as part of its territory and has threatened to attack if it ever moves to make its de facto independence permanent.

Shuai said Ma has yet to present a clear, plausible defense strategy even as he pursues a vaguely defined peace treaty with China.

Last week, the military proposed a 2009 defense budget of $12.5 billion, a decline of $1.7 billion from the previous year, according to the Defense Ministry

Anonymous:

The Beijing Olympics is a great success by any accounts. But to some people, China's success is their pain as evidenced in this forum. But does this matter? Certainly not. Just months ago these China-bashing folks tried their best to disrupt the torch relay and wished a disaster out of it. But they failed miserably and still in pain.

Some independent leaning folks in Taiwan have blindly followed the corrupted Chen Shuibian and his cohorts. It seems that they haven't learned their lesson. Does it matter? Certainly not. Taiwan will be part of China in a few decades. I just hope the unification will be through peaceful means as it is progressing now. If these hard core Chen Shuibian folks get their way, or the foreign trouble makers succeed, then it would be a disaster for Chinese people. But I have no doubt of the end result.

What about Xizang and Xinjiang? Nothing. I think the debate is over after the Olympics. China cares about these regions as any regions in China. And that is it.
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WHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. China kill people just for fun or because they do think "not right". China send people into prison just because they want rights wich were promissed in chinese constitution. China lost last years 400 millions because of corruption And this piece of s-h-i-t is whining about some Chen who made own people more as twise rich and indeoendent. (for idiots like you indepoendent means free)

"China cares about these regions as any regions in China."

Whahaha.. yeahh sure.. thats why those regions have biggest paramilitary and colonist population. gosh.. you idiot should find some better arguments..

Anonymous:

<<<
Where is East Turkestan????? Could you do me a favor by giving me your world map to entertain myself for a while,folk???

People only know of East Turkestan Terrorists,a bunch of demented goons supported by some Western countries that instruct China democracy overtly while backstabbing China covertly.

Without those sinister instigation,people would have improved themselves for better life instead of blaming others for all things. Faulting is easy yet doing is real hard.

Wake up,folk? See what East Turkestan Terrorists have done to Uigur's benefit??? Most Uigur,at best,do not care a East Turkestan Muslim Empire in this world;they are ordinary people like you and me,wanting to make money and lead a practical life.This Chinese government did a lot to promote Uigur community's development and it is ridiculous to see Western media try to fault and discredit China on policy to XinJiang and Western media's distortion only backfire in Chinese audience.

We are confident not because we do not worry about those western proxies' threat but because they have been actually doing and the battle has been going with their unsuccess as a loser and therefore they can only crying and bashing.

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East Turkestan, also known as East Turkistan, Uyghuristan, and Uyghurstan (Uyghur: Sherqiy Türkistan; Uyghuriye), refers to the eastern part of the greater Turkestan region of Central Asia, and is concurrent with the present-day Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of China. The area is largely inhabited by the 8 million Uyghurs, a muslim Turkic-speaking people.
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As long as Chinese do not buy Western instigators' words,nobody can do anything to separate XinJiang from China.
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For idiots like you: East Turkestan IS NOT CHINA..

You can never separate something what was never together.

杀人放火:

"An unemployed Beijing man who killed six policemen and injured another four in a knife attack in Shanghai was sentenced to death at the Shanghai No.2 People's Intermediate Court.

Yang stabbed a security guard at the police branch in Zhabei District and started a fire at its gate at about 9:40 a.m. on July.1.

He then forced his way into the building and attacked nine police officers, according to the prosecution."

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/6490719.html

portrait of U.S.:

Portrait of U.S.

和尚从政
总统偷香
记者撒谎
学生带枪


Monks love politics.
Politicians love chicks.
Reporters carry lies.
School kids carry guns.

Liu Ming:

(UPI) -- Chinese authorities have determined a toxic pesticide was mixed into gyoza before the dumplings were exported, Japanese sources say.

Japanese Foreign Ministry officials reportedly were told by the Chinese Thursday that the gyoza dumplings in question came from Tianyang Food, the Chinese manufacturer linked to the Japanese poisonings last January.

BelieveInOnlyYourselfChinese:

Anonymous:

TrustYourselfChinese:
Bravo,a few East Turkic terrorists were sent to the hell! Chinese government is doing right thing in protect China's territory integrity and keep necessary law and order.We are not stupid enough to overthrow this government recklessly and throw this country into bloodshed and turmoil as we are witnessing in Iraq.

No use by lying and exaggerating, China bashers! You are sheer dirty politicians. We are not fool.Democratic India also keep caste system and shot peaceful protesters to death. No simple recipe to solve politic problems and we know to be patient.

-----------------------------------------------

For dumb idiots like you;
East Turkestan is not China. Not geographicaly and not political.


=======================================

Where is East Turkestan????? Could you do me a favor by giving me your world map to entertain myself for a while,folk???

People only know of East Turkestan Terrorists,a bunch of demented goons supported by some Western countries that instruct China democracy overtly while backstabbing China covertly.

Without those sinister instigation,people would have improved themselves for better life instead of blaming others for all things. Faulting is easy yet doing is real hard.

Wake up,folk? See what East Turkestan Terrorists have done to Uigur's benefit??? Most Uigur,at best,do not care a East Turkestan Muslim Empire in this world;they are ordinary people like you and me,wanting to make money and lead a practical life.This Chinese government did a lot to promote Uigur community's development and it is ridiculous to see Western media try to fault and discredit China on policy to XinJiang and Western media's distortion only backfire in Chinese audience.

As long as Chinese do not buy Western instigators' words,nobody can do anything to separate XinJiang from China. We are confident not because we do not worry about those western proxies' threat but because they have been actually doing and the battle has been going with their unsuccess as a loser and therefore they can only crying and bashing.

Charlie1111:

The Beijing Olympics is a great success by any accounts. But to some people, China's success is their pain as evidenced in this forum. But does this matter? Certainly not. Just months ago these China-bashing folks tried their best to disrupt the torch relay and wished a disaster out of it. But they failed miserably and still in pain.

Some independent leaning folks in Taiwan have blindly followed the corrupted Chen Shuibian and his cohorts. It seems that they haven't learned their lesson. Does it matter? Certainly not. Taiwan will be part of China in a few decades. I just hope the unification will be through peaceful means as it is progressing now. If these hard core Chen Shuibian folks get their way, or the foreign trouble makers succeed, then it would be a disaster for Chinese people. But I have no doubt of the end result.

What about Xizang and Xinjiang? Nothing. I think the debate is over after the Olympics. China cares about these regions as any regions in China. And that is it.

Anonymous:

Tens of thousands of Taiwanese marched in the streets of the capital Saturday to protest the president's efforts to improve relations with rival China.

The protest was the first mass rally against President Ma Ying-jeou since his inauguration about 100 days ago. It came amid worries among some people that Ma's efforts to boost Taiwan's economy with China's help could threaten the island's sovereignty.

In downtown Taipei, people shouted, "Ma Ying-jeou, step down!" Some waved cardboard signs reading, "Taiwan Yes, China No." Police said about 40,000 people participated in the rally.

Protesters said they are worried that Ma is leaning toward China too quickly and that it might bring disastrous political consequences.

"Ma's unconditional embrace of the Chinese market is not good for Taiwanese people," said protester Kuo Wen-hung, 38. "If we are over dependent on China economically, eventually we will be forced to unite with China politically."

Saturday's rally was organized by the pro-independence group Taiwan Society and attended by several prominent opposition politicians, including Democratic Progressive Party Chairwoman Tsai Ing-wen.

Since taking office, Ma has turned the corner on his predecessor's aggressive anti-China stance and sought closer ties with the mainland.

Over the past three months, Ma has facilitated closer economic exchanges with China, lifting caps on Taiwanese investment in the mainland and allowing Chinese people to invest in the island. He has also vowed to seek a formal peace treaty with Beijing to avoid conflicts in the volatile western Pacific.

Protesters, however, expressed doubts about Ma's efforts to offer peace to the mainland, saying Beijing remains hostile toward Taiwan.

"The fact that China has not withdrawn its missiles aimed at Taiwan shows its lack of friendliness toward us," 46-year-old housewife Tseng Hsin-yi said.

According to Taiwan's defense ministry, China has deployed more than 1,000 missiles aimed at Taiwan along its southeast coast. The two sides are separated by the 100-mile-wide Taiwan Strait.

Anonymous:


繁體,好讓大家看懂.


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橫批:看你橫行到幾時

El embajador de China en Costa Rica, Wang Xiaoyuan, afirmó que su país se opone a que el Dalai Lama, que tenía prevista una visita al país centroamericano para el próximo mes, realice actividades políticas.

"Estamos en contra de que el Dalai Lama realice actividades internacionales políticas en todas partes del mundo y por eso hacemos gestiones ante todos los gobiernos de los países donde va a viajar", dijo el diplomático en declaraciones publicadas hoy por la prensa local.

El pasado 20 de agosto el presidente de Costa Rica, Óscar Arias, confirmó que le pidió al Dalai Lama postergar la visita no oficial que iba a realizar en septiembre, pero negó que el motivo fuera político, sino que en esas fechas estará fuera del país.

Sin embargo, la Asociación Cultural Tibetano Costarricense denunció que Arias había pedido al Dalai Lama no efectuar la visita a este país para no tener roces con China, paÍs con el que Costa Rica inició relaciones diplomáticas en junio de 2007.

La Asociación también aseguró que el Gobierno costarricense temía que la presencia del líder tibetano a San José estropeara una visita del presidente chino, Hu Jintao, cuya fecha aún no está confirmada, pero que podría ser este año.

El embajador chino en San José aseguró escuetamente que la petición de Arias al Dalai Lama, Premio Nobel de la Paz 1989, fue una "decisión soberana" de Costa Rica.

Arias aseguró que le solicitó al líder tibetano viajar a Costa Rica el próximo año para poder reunirse con él y subrayó la amistad "muy grande" que los une desde hace años como Premio Nobel de la Paz.

En varias ocasiones, Óscar Arias, Premio Nobel de la Paz 1987, ha manifestado que el Dalai Lama es su amigo y ha abogado por el diálogo entre China y el Tíbet para evitar la violencia y resolver su conflicto interno pacíficamente.

Anonymous:

TrustYourselfChinese:
Bravo,a few East Turkic terrorists were sent to the hell! Chinese government is doing right thing in protect China's territory integrity and keep necessary law and order.We are not stupid enough to overthrow this government recklessly and throw this country into bloodshed and turmoil as we are witnessing in Iraq.

No use by lying and exaggerating, China bashers! You are sheer dirty politicians. We are not fool.Democratic India also keep caste system and shot peaceful protesters to death. No simple recipe to solve politic problems and we know to be patient.

-----------------------------------------------

For dumb idiots like you;
East Turkestan is not China. Not geographicaly and not political.


Anomalous:

The Beijing Olympics also were characterized by what some people labeled "unprecedented egotism on the part of the host city."

Symbolic of this was an event for a traditional Chinese martial arts held from Thursday to Sunday at the Olympic Sports Center Gymnasium. The venue hosted an international meet for Chinese martial artists that was not part of the official Olympics. Preliminary rounds of Olympic handball games were held at the same gymnasium until Wednesday.

Medals handed out at the martial arts event were engraved with logos minus Olympic emblems, but which when seen from a distance, were indistinguishable from genuine Olympic medals.

A 20-year-old Russian woman who won one of the martial arts events said emotionally, "It feels like I'm taking part in a real Olympic event." But the martial art meet could be seen as nothing more than a "fake Olympic event."

China repeatedly asked the IOC to approve the traditional martial art as an official Olympic event, but this request was never granted.

The IOC therefore initially took a dim view of the martial art meet being held at the same time as the Olympics. But the Chinese organizers paid little heed to the IOC's opinion, going so far as allowing participants to stay in the Olympic Village alongside Olympic athletes. Eventually, the IOC approved the meet as a "cultural program." IOC President Jacques Rogge himself visited the venue for the event and served as a presenter at a medal ceremony.

The Chinese organizers were keen to hold the event as China otherwise might have lost face given the fact judo was admitted as an official Olympic event when Tokyo hosted the Games in 1964, while South Korea's taekwondo was introduced as an unofficial Olympic event when Seoul hosted the Games in 1988.

President Hu himself reportedly urged the IOC to allow the martial art meet to be held, indicating that hosting the event was the state will of China.

After all, the Beijing Olympics were held to bolster the pride of the host nation.

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/olympics/20080826TDY03104.htm

TrustYourselfChinese:

Bravo,a few East Turkic terrorists were sent to the hell! Chinese government is doing right thing in protect China's territory integrity and keep necessary law and order.We are not stupid enough to overthrow this government recklessly and throw this country into bloodshed and turmoil as we are witnessing in Iraq.

No use by lying and exaggerating, China bashers! You are sheer dirty politicians. We are not fool.Democratic India also keep caste system and shot peaceful protesters to death. No simple recipe to solve politic problems and we know to be patient.

Anonymous:

Well, they got away with it, didn't they? The Chinese staged a magnificent, moving spectacle in Beijing - but they did it their way, giving away very little in return. As the world's athletes returned home last week, China remained the same rivetted-down autocracy it was before the whole Olympic business hit town.

Why should we be surprised? This is a society which, just 30 years ago, altered its entire way of making a living almost overnight - from the most asininely-pure socialism, where even a farmer's tiny pigpen was state-controlled, to wide-open billionaire capitalism - while remaining firmly under the heel of the Chinese Communist Party and its bland, ruthless bureaucrats.

So much, too, for the anticipated "Olympic effect." It went home with the athletes. Today in the Middle Kingdom, patriotism and gold medals easily trump democracy and human rights. Those same party bureaucrats made promises to the International Olympic Committee of openness and access, a free flow of visitors and information. But of course they lied.

Access to websites was blocked, access to the land and its people restricted. There was a spot of bother over Tibet, which the Chinese handled with empty promises of a chat with the Dalai Lama's representatives. The authorities in Beijing designated three official sites for demonstrations, then set an Olympic record by finding deficiencies in all 77 of the proposals submitted for such demos.

The police cracked down hard on two ladies, aged 77 and 79, who protested against their homes being flattened by Olympic construction. You can't be too careful. One wouldn't want an army of grannies to start waving their canes at the supreme leader, Hu Jintao.

(Yes, that was him you saw briefly during the closing ceremonies - crisply-tailored, unruffled, leader of nearly a quarter of mankind and still almost unknown to foreigners and Chinese alike. Kind to puppy dogs and children? Maybe. Or perhaps one right mean bastard. Who knows? The world has little more knowledge of Hu than Lord Macartney had of the Qian Long emperor in 1793, when he arrived bearing a message from George III.)

Politics aside, the Games themselves were something special. The stadiums were spectacular, the most impressive in Olympic history. Likewise for the opening and closing ceremonies. The citizens of Beijing stopped spitting in public, a minor miracle. Even the weather co-operated, washing away worries of athletes dropping like flies, their lungs pitted by pollution.

Anonymous:

No.
The future will only remember the Chinese-ness of the Olympics but the Olympics.客大欺店,in Chinese saying.

It could have been a successfull Greek Olympics. It could have been a show of Steven Sbillberg but Zhang Yi Mou. We have been sincere, but you small minds, forced the King to act like a King by making fun of him.一群不识抬举的小人,乌合之众.

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Was für Chinesiness? Du meinst diese pompöse Afumärsche, für die die Diktaturen dieser Welt so bekannt sind? Das ist keine Chinesiness. Es ist eine Vorstellung, die von den italienischen und deutschen Faschisten ausgedacht wurde. Oder meinst die komplete Abschotung des Landes von der Welt wären man die alle eingeladen hat?

Anonymous:

日啖荔枝三百颗:
Speaking Chinese doesn't make you a China expert. But if you don't even speak Chinese, you have hardly any hope to become a China expert.

Speaking a western language doesn't make me a west expert. But if I don't speak any western language at all, it would be much harder for me to understand the west.

However, I think I happen to understand the west a little: The west is like 岳不群 in the story, like I already said..... See, you don't understand what I am saying because you don't speak Chinese....

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I do not want to became chinese expert. i give a flick about your chinese expert "weabooism". i dont care if you can chinese or not. here is not chinese forum and here is English a discussion language. Speak english or leave this forum. If you will not follow to respect you discutanss then everyone will start to talk in own language with you. i am sure you know a legend about Babilon languages.

Anonymous:

Back to the original question:
"Did the Olympics succeed?"

No.
The future will only remember the Chinese-ness of the Olympics but the Olympics.客大欺店,in Chinese saying.

It could have been a successfull Greek Olympics. It could have been a show of Steven Sbillberg but Zhang Yi Mou. We have been sincere, but you small minds, forced the King to act like a King by making fun of him.一群不识抬举的小人,乌合之众.


To "日啖荔枝三百颗": :

Re: "The west is like 岳不群 in the story, like I already said....."

Oh pleeease, not another martial arts story.

We're getting Zhang Yimou wire-fu fatigue here.

日啖荔枝三百颗:

Speaking Chinese doesn't make you a China expert. But if you don't even speak Chinese, you have hardly any hope to become a China expert.

Speaking a western language doesn't make me a west expert. But if I don't speak any western language at all, it would be much harder for me to understand the west.

However, I think I happen to understand the west a little: The west is like 岳不群 in the story, like I already said..... See, you don't understand what I am saying because you don't speak Chinese....

To "日啖荔枝三百颗":

Re: "But if you want to understand China, please, learn Chinese like Mr. Pomfret."

Since you obviously knows English language, do you then understand the West?

日啖荔枝三百颗:

Remember, this is a site of a USA mag, and about China. It would be disrespecful to write comments in any other languages other than Chinese and English here (of course, humors are different). (And, same, if I put up Chinese comments in an English website about France, I should be criticised as disrespectful.) No one is obligated to learn French or Russian. But if you want to understand China, please, learn Chinese like Mr. Pomfret.

Regarding the story:
A chapter from a famous Chinese 武侠小说 by 金庸. One can find paralells between the charecters in it and the nations in today's world. For example, west is like 岳不群(虚伪,冷漠,以为天下可欺,终成不男不女之身,刚正之气尽失.). Russia is like 左冷禅(有力,霸气,顽强,但毕竟不为苍生为自己,文化不深,故五岳盟主当不久). And many farm-like small nations struggling in this 岳不群 world are like 仪琳. And China? I think, is like the author 金庸 because he sees all this, and knows how things evolve. And me? 衡山掌门莫大先生! 剑收琴中,非不得已,绝不出手.一旦出手,对你们这些匪类绝不留情,一招得手,着着追杀!!

Anonymous:

SCO: Rise of NATO East?
"Depending on how well Russia and China can work together, the SCO has the potential to be a buttress against US influence in Central Asia."

Many Western observers have kept a cautious eye on developments concerning the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), a six-nation coalition of Central Asian states including China and Russia. Since its inception in 2001 it has been painted as a counter-balancing mechanism to offset the growing influence of the United States in the region. Many believe that despite the benign nature of the language used in the SCO's charter in regards to its "non-targeting" policies, its intentions to limit US presence in Central Asia are implicitly clear and could have profound impacts on global politics...

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=19317

Chinationreport:

Anybody interested in starting a blog focusing on next US president's China policy? Pros and Cons of either choice please? Thank you! Please contact:
http://www.chinationreport.com/

Anonymous:


Thanks for the story. I enjoyed it.

WHat a story? is that where two chinese idiots are smiling because they insulted everyone in a language, who noone understand? what a fun!! call an ambulance! We have two chinese who talks funny here!

Anonymous:

Даже такой традиционный, и мягко говоря, «жесткий идеолог» Запада во взаимоотношениях с РФ, как Великобритания, был вынужден ограничиться едва ли не примирительной позицией. Подчеркнув, что «российский газ должен и будет играть важную роль в энергоснабжении Европы», глава МИД Дэвид Милибэнд заявил в Киеве, что не поддерживает призывы исключить Россию из «Большой восьмерки» или разорвать отношения между Россией и ЕС или Россией и НАТО (как пробовал предложить Западу Саакашвили).

Наконец, представитель генсека ООН Мишель Монтас в четверг подтвердила, что мандат и статус миссии ООН по мониторингу ситуации в зоне грузино-абхазского конфликта, остаются прежними, несмотря на признание Россией независимости Абхазии. Один из ведущих фигур ШОС – Китай, устами официального представителя МИД КНР Цинь Гана, перед началом очередного саммита этой организации в четверг в Душанбе также выразил надежду на «мирное разрешение грузино-югоосетинского конфликта путем диалога и переговоров».

В отличие от южных партнеров России, Европы, и даже США, лишь несколько стран (руководство которых вместо честного служения национальным интересам, в основном, подобно шакалам, пытается клянчить объедки со стола крупных геополитических игроков), абсолютно не понимая ситуации (с истовостью неофитов), продолжают попытки эскалации. Но даже не самого конфликта в Южной Осетии, а оставшегося после разрешения ситуации в ней пропагандистского «фона».

Грузия здесь, конечно, на первом месте. Поставленная кликой Саакашвили в зависимость от дотаций США (которыми, в основном, расплачиваются за участие в антироссийских военных программах), страна попала в заложники к своему руководству. Так, в то же время, как простые люди в Сухуми и Цхинвали отмечают признание своей независимости салютами уже второй день, «парламент» Грузии вознамерился принять постановление ни много ни мало, «об оккупированных Россией грузинских территориях». А Саакашвили устами своего премьер-министра Ладо Гургенидзе заявляет «о необходимости $3-4 млрд для восстановления экономики и возвращения экономического роста в стране».

То есть, попросту требует от Вашингтона еще одной подачки за очередную подлость по отношению к России, несколько переоценивая свою роль. Об этом же говорит и тон, которым Саакашвили пытается ставить условия своим покровителям. «Нам немедленно нужно членство, а не план действий для членства (ПДЧ) в НАТО, не переходный период», - заявил Саакашвили сегодня литовскому национальному ТВ, упомянув при этом, что НАТО якобы снова готово «продемонстрировать слабость».

По его словам, «в планы России входит восстановление Советского Союза», от РФ «придет черед пострадать государствам НАТО», и «было бы исторической ошибкой оставить их (русских) безнаказанными за то, что они сделали Грузии», так как «русские могут на несколько недель успокоиться, перегруппироваться и опять наступать».

Фактически поддержав эти более чем сомнительные воззвания Саакашвили (которого многие открыто называют «бесноватым»: к примеру, президент Грузии недавно признался, что боится покидать Тбилиси, якобы потому что «Россия его обратно не пустит»), секретарь МИД Литвы Жигимантас Павилёнис также заявил (от лица своей страны, или ЕС – так и осталось неясным), что они «ищут действий», так как «декларации не действуют».

Очевидно, воинственная риторика Грузии и Литвы, более всего напоминающая «глас вопиющего в пустыне», не только не поддержана Западом, но и расценивается сейчас, после стабилизации обстановки в ЮО, в качестве хоть и незначительного, но дестабилизирующего фактора мирового баланса. Впрочем, эта роль, по всей видимости, является уделом всех тех «государств», которые вместо честной борьбы за национальные интересы своих народов, занимают позицию продажных «прислужников» более крупных и богатых геополитических игроков.

Anonymous:

@ 日啖荔枝三百颗:


Well. then enjoy Russian.. when you are going to talk about South Osetia, you dumb idiot:

Решительные действия России в виде признания независимости Южной Осетии и Абхазии, после успешной военной операции по спасению части осетинского народа от геноцида и полного уничтожения, разбудили сонную проамериканскую бюрократию на мировой внешнеполитической арене. Ранее многие в Европе, да и в самой России, привыкли видеть мировой порядок исключительно в том свете, как представляли его в Вашингтоне.

Читайте: Война в Южной Осетии оставила Ющенко в "русофобском одиночестве".

Напротив, та самая «реалполитик», о которой в мире очень много говорили, была продемонстрирована именно Россией в Южной Осетии. И это, к неудовольствию многих русофобов, ясно показало, что влияние РФ на мировой арене достаточно весомо. Более того - в этом влиянии, пусть даже в форме военной операции, нет ничего страшного. Это так, поскольку Россия – отнюдь не монстр, а стержневая страна так называемой «православной» цивилизации в центре Евразии, которой руководят не «тоталитарные идеологии», а тот же самый «здравый смысл», что и большинством стран Запада.

«Только безумец мог сделать такую ставку, – пишет о Саакашвили в своей статье для Financial Times наш новый президент Дмитрий Медведев. - Неужели он верил, что Россия будет безучастно смотреть на то, как он осуществляет полномасштабное нападение на спящий город Цхинвал, убивая сотни мирных жителей, в большинстве - российских граждан? Верил ли он, что Россия будет бездействовать?».

«Наши войска вошли на территорию Грузии, чтобы уничтожить базы, с которых было произведено нападение, а затем ушли. Мы восстановили мир… - В международных отношениях вы не можете иметь одни правила для одних и другие правила для остальных», - резюмирует глава России позицию страны. Что еще нужно говорить миру, в котором царящая «Величайшая сила добра на Земле», по самоопределению Дж. Буша мл., казалось бы, печется о том же самом?
После того, как стало ясно, что Россия готова спасать своих граждан не только на диспутах ООН, но и на деле, весь западный мир понял, что к РФ можно и нужно прислушаться. В частности, США, предприняв безуспешную попытку ввязать НАТО в противостояние с РФ, и даже направив в Черное море более дюжины кораблей ВМС США, в конечном счете были вынуждены ограничиться довольно беззубым заявлением на страницах Reuters. «Европа, США и другие лидеры по всему миру будут убеждать Россию в том, что это [признание независимости ЮО и Абхазии] - очень близорукое решение с их (русских) стороны», - говорилось в заявлении.

При этом позиция Вашингтона к концу августа оказалась настолько мягкой, что даже кандидат в вице-президенты США, сенатор-демократ Джозеф Байден в Денвере на партийном съезде был вынужден признать, что «администрация Буша не смогла противостоять вызовам нового столетия, в том числе появлению России в мире в качестве великой державы».

Европа, мнение которой на континенте является, несмотря на усилия США, решающим в отношении Запада к России, с первых же дней нападения Грузии на Южную Осетию, с прохладцей отнеслась к попыткам Вашингтона оправдать свой пиетет к Саакашвили, и выставить Россию в роли «агрессора». Страны европейского НАТО, буквально отказались и от прямой военной помощи Грузии, и даже от своих «амбиций» в конфликте.

Более того, канцлер Германии Ангела Меркель предпочла уделить больше внимания серьезному обсуждению ситуации с Медведевым в Сочи, нежели привычной для блоков ЕС-НАТО осудительной риторике; президент Франции Николя Саркози просто приехал в Москву, позднее выступив глашатаем предложенного Медведевым официального метода урегулирования ситуации в ЮО – знаменитых «шести пунктов».

А после признания Россией независимости двух республик Кавказа, да и то, по-видимому, из-за активности Вашингтона, Европа сделала лишь довольно формальное заявление от лица глав МИД G7: «Мы, министры иностранных дел Канады, Франции, Германии, Италии, Японии, США и Великобритании, осуждаем действия России, входящей вместе с нами в Большую восьмерку». Пожурив таким образом своего партнера по G8, ЕС и США лишь «единодушно призвали» и дальше выполнять план из «6 пунктов», предложенных самой же Россией.

Anonymous:

日啖荔枝三百颗:

//FOR IDIOTS LIKE YOU:

THIS IS NOT CHINESE FORUM! THIS IS NOT A CHINESE COUNTRY AND YOU HAVE TO TALK ENGLISH OR ANOTHER AMERICAN LANGUAGE(like Cajun French) HERE, YOU DUMB ARROGANT IDIOT!//

But, you are talking about CHINA.
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TALK IN ENGLISH YOU PIECE OF S-H-I-T!

Anonymous:

@ Posted on August 30, 2008 21:57

@日啖荔枝三百颗


Behinderte sind die großen Verlierer des chinesischen Wirtschaftswunders. Sie haben in China keinen Job, keine Sozialversicherung und keine Zukunft. Obwohl etwa 70 Millionen Menschen mit Handicap in China leben, sind sie eine soziale Randgruppe, abhängig von ihren Familien und von nichtstaatlichen Wohlfahrtsorganisationen. Viele Chinesen glauben sogar, die Behinderung sei eine Strafe für ein verfehltes früheres Leben …

China richtet in diesem Jahr neben den Olympischen Spielen auch die Paralympics aus. Eine Chance? Während man in Peking die Bordsteine für Rollstuhlfahrer bereits absenkt, werden auf dem Land immer noch Kinder wegen einer Behinderung ausgesetzt. Braucht es mehr Geduld? Das hinterfragt der Film, er skizziert anhand verschiedener Porträts die Situationen von Menschen mit Handicap im Reich der Mitte, erzählt Geschichten von Ausgrenzung, aber auch von Zusammenhalt und Hoffnung.

令狐冲:

Thanks for the story. I enjoyed it.

日啖荔枝三百颗:


//FOR IDIOTS LIKE YOU:

THIS IS NOT CHINESE FORUM! THIS IS NOT A CHINESE COUNTRY AND YOU HAVE TO TALK ENGLISH OR ANOTHER AMERICAN LANGUAGE(like Cajun French) HERE, YOU DUMB ARROGANT IDIOT!//

But, you are talking about CHINA.

More Chinese writings, enjoy:

王氏兄弟忙不迭的揭开那本册子,只见第一页上写着“笑傲江湖之曲”六个篆字。王
氏兄弟只粗通文墨,这六个字如是楷书,倒也认得,既作篆体,那便一个也不识得了。再
翻过一页,但见一个个均是奇文怪字,他二人不知这是琴箫曲谱,心中既已认定是《辟邪
剑谱》,自是更无怀疑,齐声大叫:“《辟邪剑谱》,《辟邪剑谱》!”
王家骏道:“给爹爹瞧去。”拿了那部琴箫曲谱,急奔出房。王家驹在令狐冲腰里重
重踢了一脚,骂道:“不要脸的小贼!”又在他脸上吐了一口唾沫。
令狐冲初时气得几乎胸膛也要炸了,但转念一想:“这两个小子无知无识,他祖父和
父亲却不致如此粗鄙,待会得知这是琴谱箫谱,非来向我陪罪不可。”只是双臂脱臼,一
阵阵疼痛难当,又想:“我内功全失,遇到街上的流氓无赖也毫无抵抗之力,已成废人一
个,活在世上,更有何用?”他躺在床上,额头不住冒汗,伤心之际,忍不住眼泪扑簌簌
的流下,但想王氏兄弟定然转眼便回,不可示弱于人,当即拭干了眼泪。过了好一会,只
听得脚步声响,王氏兄弟快步回来。王家骏冷笑道:“去见我爷爷。”
令狐冲怒道:“不去!你爷爷不来向我赔罪,我去见他干么?”王氏兄弟哈哈大笑。
王家驹道:“我爷爷向你这小贼赔罪?发你的春秋大梦了!去,去!”两人抓住令狐冲腰
间衣服,将他从床上提了起来,走出房外。令狐冲骂道:“金刀王家还自夸侠义道呢,却
如此狂妄欺人,当真卑鄙之极。”王家骏反手一掌,打得他满口是血。
令狐冲仍是骂声不绝,给王氏兄弟提到后面花厅之中。只见岳不群夫妇和王元霸分宾
主而坐,王伯奋、仲强二人坐在王元霸下首。令狐冲兀自大骂:“金刀王家,卑鄙无耻,
武林中从未见过这等污秽肮脏的人家!”
岳不群脸一沉喝道:“冲儿,住口!”
令狐冲听到师父喝斥,这才止声不骂,向着王元霸怒目而视。
王元霸手中拿着那部琴箫曲谱,淡淡的道:“令狐贤侄,这部《辟邪剑谱》,你是从
何处得来的?”
令狐冲仰天大笑,笑声半晌不止。岳不群斥道:“冲儿,尊长问你,便当据实禀告,
何以胆敢如此无礼?甚么规矩?”令狐冲道:“师父,弟子重伤之后,全身无力,你瞧这
两个小子怎生对付我,嘿嘿,这是江湖上待客的规矩吗?”王仲强道:“倘若是朋友佳客
,我们王家说甚么也不敢得罪。但你负人所托,将这部《辟邪剑谱》据为己有,这是盗贼
之行,我洛阳金刀王家是清白人家,岂能再当他是朋友?”令狐冲道:“你祖孙三代,口
口声声的说这是《辟邪剑谱》。你们见过《辟邪剑谱》没有?怎知这便是《辟邪剑谱》?
”王仲强一怔,道:“这部册子从你身上搜了出来,岳师兄又说这不是华山派的武功书谱
,却不是《辟邪剑谱》是甚么?”令狐冲气极反笑,说道:“你既说是《辟邪剑谱》,便
算是《辟邪剑谱》好了。但愿你金刀王家依样照式,练成天下无敌的剑法,从此洛阳王家
在武林中号称刀剑双绝,哈哈,哈哈!”王元霸道:“令狐贤侄,小孙一时得罪,你也不
必介意。人孰无过,知过能改,善莫大焉。你既把剑谱交了出来,冲着你师父的面子,咱
们还能追究么?这件事,大家此后谁也别提。我先给你接上了手膀再说。”说着下座走向
令狐冲,伸手去抓他左掌。令狐冲退后两步,厉声道:“且慢!令狐冲可不受你买好。”
王元霸愕然道:“我向你买甚么好?”
令狐冲怒道:“我令狐冲又不是木头人,我的手臂你们爱折便折,爱接便接!”向左
两步,走到岳夫人面前,叫道:“师娘!”岳夫人叹了口气,将他双臂被扭脱的关节都给
接上了。令狐冲道:“师娘,这明明是一本七弦琴的琴谱,洞箫的箫谱,他王家目不识丁
,硬说是《辟邪剑谱》,天下居然有这等大笑话。”岳夫人道:“王老爷子,这本谱儿,
给我瞧瞧成不成?”王元霸道:“岳夫人请看。”将曲谱递了过去。岳夫人翻了几页,也
是不明所以,说道:“琴谱箫谱我是不懂,剑谱却曾见过一些,这部册子却不像是剑谱。
王老爷子,府上可有甚么人会奏琴吹箫?不妨请他来看看,便知端的。”
王元霸心下犹豫,只怕这真是琴谱箫谱,这个人可丢得够瞧的,一时沉吟不答。王家
驹却是个草包,大声道:“爷爷,咱们帐房里的易师爷会吹箫,去叫他来瞧瞧便是。这明
明是《辟邪剑谱》,怎么会是甚么琴谱箫谱?”王元霸道:“武学秘笈的种类极多,有人
为了守秘,怕人偷窥,故意将武功图谱写成曲谱模样,那也是有的。这并不足为奇。”岳
夫人道:“府上既有一位师爷会得吹箫,那么这到底是剑谱,还是箫谱,请他来一看便知
。”王元霸无奈,只得命王家驹去请易师爷来。那易师爷是个瘦瘦小小、五十来岁的汉子
,颏下留着一部稀稀疏疏的胡子,衣履甚是整洁。王元霸道:“易师爷,请你瞧瞧,这是
不是寻常的琴谱箫谱?”
易师爷打开琴谱,看了几页,摇头道:“这个,晚生可不大憧了。”再看到后面的箫
谱时,双目登时一亮,口中低声哼了起来,左手两根手指不住在桌上轻打节拍。哼了一会
,却又摇头,道:“不对,不对!”跟着又哼了下去,突然之间,声音拔高,忽又变哑,
皱起了眉头,道:“世上决无此事,这个……这个……晚生实在难以明白。”
王元霸脸有喜色,问道:“这部书中是否大有可疑之处?是否与寻常箫谱大不相同?

易师爷指着箫谱,说道:“东翁请看,此处宫调,突转变微,实在大违乐理,而且箫
中也吹不出来。这里忽然又转为角调,再转羽调,那也是从所未见的曲调。洞箫之中,无
论如何是奏不出这等曲子的。”
令狐冲冷笑道:“是你不会吹,未见得别人也不会吹奏!”易师爷点头道:“那也说
得是,不过世上如果当真有人能吹奏这样的调子,晚生佩服得五体投地,佩服得五体投地
!除非是……除非是东城……”
王元霸打断他话头,问道:“你说这不是寻常的箫谱?其中有些调子,压根儿无法在
箫中吹奏出来?”
易师爷点头道:“是啊,大非寻常,大非寻常,晚生是决计吹不出。除非是东城……

岳夫人问道:“东城有哪一位名师高手,能够吹这曲谱?”易师爷道:“这个……晚
生可也不能担保,只是……只是东城的绿竹翁,他既会抚琴,又会吹箫,或许能吹得出也
不一定。他吹奏的洞箫,可比晚生要高明的多,实在是高明得太多,不可同日而语,不可
同日而语。”
王元霸道:“既然不是寻常箫谱,这中间当然大有文章了。”
王伯奋在旁一直静听不语,忽然插口道:“爹,郑州八卦刀的那套四门六合刀法,不
也是记在一部曲谱之中么?”王元霸一怔,随即会意,知道儿子是在信口开河,郑州八卦
刀的掌门人莫星与洛阳金刀王家是数代姻亲,他八卦刀门中可并没甚么四门六合刀法,但
料想华山派只是专研剑法,别派中有没有这样一种刀法,岳不群纵然渊博,也未必尽晓,
当即点头道:“不错,不错,几年前莫亲家还提起过这件事。曲谱中记以刀法剑法,那是
常有之事,一点也不足为奇。”令狐冲冷笑道:“既然不足为奇,那么请教王老爷子,这
两部曲谱中所记的剑法,却是怎么一副样子。”王元霸长叹一声,说道:“这个……唉,
我女婿既已逝世,这曲谱中的秘奥,世上除了老弟一人之外,只怕再也没第二人明白了。
”令狐冲若要辩白,原可说明《笑傲江湖》一曲的来历,但这一来可牵涉重大,不得不说
到衡山派莫大先生如何杀死大嵩阳手费彬,师父知道此曲与魔教长老曲洋有关,势必将之
毁去,那么自己受人所托,便不能忠人之事了,当下强忍怒气,说道:“这位易师爷说道
,东城有一位绿竹翁精于音律,何不拿这曲谱去请他品评一番。”
王元霸摇头道:“这绿竹翁为人古怪之极,疯疯癫癫的,这种人的话,怎能信得?”
岳夫人道:“此事终须问个水落石出,冲儿是我们弟子,平之也是我们弟子,我们不
能有所偏袒,到底谁是谁非,不妨去请那绿竹翁评评这个道理。”她不便说这是令狐冲和
金刀王家的争执,而将争端的一造换作了林平之,又道:“易师爷,烦你派人用轿子去接
了这位绿竹翁来如何?”
易师爷道:“这老人家脾气古怪得紧,别人有事求他,倘若他不愿过问的,便是上门
磕头,也休想他理睬,但如他要插手,便推也推不开。”岳夫人点头道:“这倒是我辈中
人,想来这位绿竹翁是武林中的前辈了。师哥,咱们可孤陋寡闻得紧。”王元霸笑道:“
那绿竹翁是个篾匠,只会编竹篮,打篾席,哪里是武林中人了?只是他弹得好琴,吹得好
箫,又会画竹,很多人出钱来买他的画儿,算是个附庸风雅的老匠人,因此地方上对他倒
也有几分看重。”
岳夫人道:“如此人物,来到洛阳可不能不见。王老爷子,便请劳动你的大驾,咱们
同去拜访一下这位风雅的篾匠如何?”眼见岳夫人之意甚坚,王元霸不能不允,只得带同
儿孙,和岳不群夫妇、令狐冲、林平之、岳灵珊等人同赴东城。易师爷在前领路,经过几
条小街,来到一条窄窄的巷子之中。巷子尽头,好大一片绿竹丛,迎风摇曳,雅致天然。
众人刚踏进巷子,便听得琴韵丁冬,有人正在抚琴,小巷中一片清凉宁静,和外面的洛阳
城宛然是两个世界。岳夫人低声道:“这位绿竹翁好会享清福啊!”
便在此时,铮的一声,一根琴弦忽尔断绝,琴声也便止歇。一个苍老的声音说道:“
贵客枉顾蜗居,不知有何见教。”易师爷道:“竹翁,有一本奇怪的琴谱箫谱,要请你老
人家的法眼鉴定鉴定。”绿竹翁道:“有琴谱箫谱要我鉴定?嘿嘿,可太瞧得起老篾匠啦
。”
易师爷还未答话,王家驹抢着朗声说道:“金刀王家王老爷子过访。”他抬了爷爷的
招牌出来,料想爷爷是洛阳城中响当当的脚色,一个老篾匠非立即出来迎接不可。哪知绿
竹翁冷笑道:“哼,金刀银刀,不如我老篾匠的烂铁刀有用。老篾匠不去拜访王老爷,王
老爷也不用来拜访老篾匠。”王家驹大怒,大声道:“爷爷,这老篾匠是个不明事理的浑
人,见他作甚?咱们不如回去罢!”岳夫人道:“既然来了,请绿竹翁瞧瞧这部琴谱箫谱
,却也不妨。”王元霸“嘿”了一声,将曲谱递给易师爷。易师爷接过,走入了绿竹丛中
。只听绿竹翁道:“好,你放下罢!”易师爷道:“请问竹翁,这真的是曲谱,还是甚么
武功秘诀,故意写成了曲谱模样?”绿竹翁道:“武功秘诀?亏你想得出!这当然是琴谱
了!嗯。”接着只听得琴声响起,幽雅动听。
令狐冲听了片刻,记得这正是当日刘正风所奏的曲子,人亡曲在,不禁凄然。弹不多
久,突然间琴音高了上去,越响越高,声音尖锐之极,铮的一声响,断了一根琴弦,再高
了几个音,铮的一声,琴弦又断了一根。绿竹翁“咦”的一声,道:“这琴谱好生古怪,
令人难以明白。”
王元霸祖孙五人你瞧瞧我,我瞧瞧你,脸上均有得色。只听绿竹翁道:“我试试这箫
谱。”跟着箫声便从绿竹丛中传了出来,初时悠扬动听,情致缠绵,但后来箫声愈转愈低
,几不可闻,再吹得几个音,箫声便即哑了,波波波的十分难听。绿竹翁叹了口气,说道
:“易老弟,你是会吹箫的,这样的低音如何能吹奏出来?这琴谱、箫谱未必是假,但撰
曲之人却在故弄玄虚,跟人开玩笑。你且回去,让我仔细推敲推敲。”易师爷道:“是。
”从绿竹丛中退了出来。王仲强道:“那剑谱呢?”易师爷道:“剑谱?啊!绿竹翁要留
着,说是要仔细推敲推敲。”王仲强急道:“快去拿回来,这是珍贵无比的剑谱,武林中
不知有多少人想要抢夺,如何能留在不相干之人手中?”易师爷应道:“是!”正要转身
再入竹丛,忽听得绿竹翁叫道:“姑姑,怎么你出来了?”王元霸低声问道:“绿竹翁多
大年纪?”易师爷道:“七十几岁,快八十了罢!”众人心想:“一个八十老翁居然还有
姑姑,这位老婆婆怕没一百多岁?”
只听得一个女子低低应了一声。绿竹翁道:“姑姑请看,这部琴谱可有些古怪。”那
女子又嗯了一声,琴音响起,调了调弦,停了一会,似是在将断了的琴弦换去,又调了调
弦,便奏了起来。初时所奏和绿竹翁相同,到后来越转越高,那琴韵竟然履险如夷,举重
若轻,毫不费力的便转了上去。令狐冲又惊又喜,依稀记得便是那天晚上所听到曲洋所奏
的琴韵。这一曲时而慷慨激昂,时而温柔雅致,令狐冲虽不明乐理,但觉这位婆婆所奏,
和曲洋所奏的曲调虽同,意趣却大有差别。这婆婆所奏的曲调平和中正,令人听着只觉音
乐之美,却无曲洋所奏热血如沸的激奋。奏了良久,琴韵渐缓,似乎乐音在不住远去,倒
像奏琴之人走出了数十丈之遥,又走到数里之外,细微几不可再闻。
琴音似止未止之际,却有一二下极低极细的箫声在琴音旁响了起来。回旋婉转,箫声
渐响,恰似吹箫人一面吹,一面慢慢走近,箫声清丽,忽高忽低,忽轻忽响,低到极处之
际,几个盘旋之后,又再低沉下去,虽极低极细,每个音节仍清晰可闻。渐渐低音中偶有
珠玉跳跃,清脆短促,此伏彼起,繁音渐增,先如鸣泉飞溅,继而如群卉争艳,花团锦簇
,更夹着间关鸟语,彼鸣我和,渐渐的百鸟离去,春残花落,但闻雨声萧萧,一片凄凉肃
杀之象,细雨绵绵,若有若无,终于万籁俱寂。箫声停顿良久,众人这才如梦初醒。王元
霸、岳不群等虽都不懂音律,却也不禁心驰神醉。易师爷更是犹如丧魂落魄一般。岳夫人
叹了一口气,衷心赞佩,道:“佩服,佩服!冲儿,这是甚么曲子?”令狐冲道:“这叫
做《笑傲江湖之曲》,这位婆婆当真神乎其技,难得是琴箫尽皆精通。”岳夫人道:“这
曲子谱得固然奇妙,但也须有这位婆婆那样的琴箫绝技,才奏得出来。如此美妙的音乐,
想来你也是生平首次听见。”令狐冲道:“不!弟子当日所闻,却比今日更为精彩。”岳
夫人奇道:“那怎么会?难道世上更有比这位婆婆抚琴吹箫还要高明之人?”令狐冲道:
“比这位婆婆更加高明,倒不见得。只不过弟子听到的是两个人琴箫合奏,一人抚琴,一
人吹箫,奏的便是这《笑傲江湖之曲》……”
他这句话未说完,绿竹丛中传出铮铮铮三响琴音,那婆婆的语音极低极低,隐隐约约
的似乎听得她说:“琴箫合奏,世上哪里去找这一个人去?”
只听绿竹翁朗声道:“易师爷,这确是琴谱箫谱,我姑姑适才奏过了,你拿回去罢!
”易师爷应道:“是!”走入竹丛,双手捧着曲谱出来。绿竹翁又道:“这曲谱中所记乐
曲之妙,世上罕有,此乃神物,不可落入俗人手中。你不会吹奏,千万不得痴心妄想的硬
学,否则于你无益有损。”易师爷道:“是,是!在下万万不敢!”将曲谱交给王元霸。
王元霸亲耳听了琴韵箫声,知道更无虚假,当即将曲谱还给令狐冲,讪讪的道:“令狐贤
侄,这可得罪了!”令狐冲冷笑一声接过,待要说几句讥刺的言语,岳夫人向他摇了摇头
,令狐冲便忍住不说。王元霸祖孙五人面目无光,首先离去。岳不群等跟着也去。
令狐冲却捧着曲谱,呆呆的站着不动。
岳夫人道:“冲儿,你不回去吗?”令狐冲道:“弟子多耽一会便回去。”岳夫人道
:“早些回去休息。你手臂刚脱过臼,不可使力。”令狐冲应道:“是。”
一行人去后,小巷中静悄悄地一无声息,偶然间风动竹叶,发出沙沙之声。令狐冲看
着手中那部曲谱,想起那日深夜刘正风和曲洋琴箫合奏,他二人得遇知音,创了这部神妙
的曲谱出来。绿竹丛中这位婆婆虽能抚琴吹箫,曲尽其妙,可惜她只能分别吹奏,那绿竹
翁便不能和她合奏,只怕这琴箫合奏的《笑傲江湖之曲》从此便音断响绝,更无第二次得
闻了。又想:“刘正风师叔和曲长老,一是正派高手,一是魔教长老,两人一正一邪,势
如水火,但论到音韵,却心意相通,结成知交,合创了这曲神妙绝伦的《笑傲江湖》出来
。他二人携手同死之时,显是心中绝无遗憾,远胜于我孤零零的在这世上,为师父所疑,
为师妹所弃,而一个敬我爱我的师弟,却又为我亲手所杀。”不由得悲从中来,眼泪一滴
滴的落在曲谱之上,忍不住哽咽出声。
绿竹翁的声音又从竹丛中传了出来:“这位朋友,为何哭泣?”令狐冲道:“晚辈自
伤身世,又想起撰作此曲的两位前辈之死,不禁失态,打扰老先生了。”说着转身便行。
绿竹翁道:“小朋友,我有几句话请教,请进来谈谈如何?”令狐冲适才听他对王元霸说
话时傲慢无礼,不料对自己一个无名小卒却这等客气,倒大出意料之外,便道:“不敢,
前辈有何垂询,晚辈自当奉告。”缓步走进竹林。只见前面有五间小舍,左二右三,均以
粗竹子架成。一个老翁从右边小舍中走出来,笑道:“小朋友,请进来喝茶。”令狐冲见
这绿竹翁身子略形佝偻,头顶稀稀疏疏的已无多少头发,大手大脚,精神却十分矍铄,当
即躬身行礼,道:“晚辈令狐冲,拜见前辈。”
绿竹翁呵呵笑道:“老朽不过痴长几岁,不用多礼,请进来,请进来!”令狐冲随着
他走进小舍,见桌椅几榻,无一而非竹制,墙上悬着一幅墨竹,笔势纵横,墨迹淋漓,颇
有森森之意。桌上放着一具瑶琴,一管洞箫。
绿竹翁从一把陶茶壶中倒出一碗碧绿清茶,说道:“请用茶。”令狐冲双手接过,躬
身谢了。绿竹翁道:“小朋友,这部曲谱,不知你从何处得来,是否可以见告?”令狐冲
一怔,心想这部曲谱的来历之中包含着许多隐秘,是以连师父、师娘也未禀告。但当日刘
正风和曲洋将曲谱交给自己,用意是要使此曲传之后世,不致湮没,这绿竹翁和他姑姑妙
解音律,他姑姑更将这一曲奏得如此神韵俱显,他二人年纪虽老,可是除了他二人之外,
世上又哪里再找得到第三个人来传授此曲?就算世上另有精通音律的解人,自己命不久长
,未必能有机缘遇到。他微一沉吟,便道:“撰写此曲的两位前辈,一位精于抚琴,一位
善于吹箫,这二人结成知交,共撰此曲,可惜遭逢大难,同时逝世。二位前辈临死之时,
将此曲交于弟子,命弟子访觅传人,免使此曲湮没无闻。”顿了一顿,又道:“适才弟子
得聆前辈这位姑姑的琴箫妙技,深庆此曲已逢真主,便请前辈将此曲谱收下,奉交婆婆,
弟子得以不负撰作此曲者的付托,完偿了一番心愿。”说着双手恭恭敬敬的将曲谱呈上。
绿竹翁却不便接,说道:“我得先行请示姑姑,不知她肯不肯收。”只听得左边小舍
中传来那位婆婆的声音道:“令狐先生高义,慨以妙曲见惠,咱们却之不恭,受之有愧。
只不知那两位撰曲前辈的大名,可能见告否?”声音却也并不如何苍老。令狐冲道:“前
辈垂询,自当禀告。撰曲的两位前辈,一位是刘正风刘师叔,一位是曲洋曲长老。”那婆
婆“啊”的一声,显得十分惊异,说道:“原来是他二人。”
令狐冲道:“前辈认得刘曲二位么?”那婆婆并不径答,沉吟半晌,说道:“刘正风
是衡山派中高手,曲洋却是魔教长老,双方乃是世仇,如何会合撰此曲?此中原因,令人
好生难以索解。”
令狐冲虽未见过那婆婆之面,但听了她弹琴吹箫之后,只觉她是个又清雅又慈和的前
辈高人,决计不会欺骗出卖了自己,听她言及刘曲来历,显是武林同道,当即源源本本的
将刘正风如何金盆洗手,嵩山派左盟主如何下旗令阻止,刘曲二人如何中了嵩山派高手的
掌力,如何荒郊合奏,二人临死时如何委托自己寻觅知音传曲等情,一一照实说了,只略
去了莫大先生杀死费彬一节。那婆婆一言不发的倾听。令狐冲说完,那婆婆问道:“这明
明是曲谱,那金刀王元霸却何以说是武功秘笈?”
令狐冲当下又将林震南夫妇如何为青城派及木高峰所伤,如何请其转嘱林平之,王氏
兄弟如何起疑等情说了。那婆婆道:“原来如此。”她顿了一顿,说道:“此中情由,你
只消跟你师父、师娘说了,岂不免去许多无谓的疑忌?我是个素不相识的陌生人,何以你
反而对我直言无隐?”令狐冲道:“弟子自己也不明白其中原因。想是听了前辈雅奏之后
,对前辈高风大为倾慕,更无丝毫猜疑之意。”那婆婆道:“那么你对你师父师娘,反而
有猜疑之意么?”令狐冲心中一惊,道:“弟子万万不敢。只是……恩师心中,对弟子却
大有疑意,唉,这也怪恩师不得。”那婆婆道:“我听你说话,中气大是不足,少年人不
该如此,却是何故?最近是生了大病呢,还是曾受重伤?”令狐冲道:“是受了极重的内
伤。”那婆婆道:“竹贤侄,你带这位少年到我窗下,待我搭一搭脉。”绿竹翁道:“是
。”引令狐冲走到左边小舍窗边,命他将左手从细竹窗帘下伸将进去。那竹帘之内,又障
了一层轻纱,令狐冲只隐隐约约的见到有个人影,五官面貌却一点也无法见到,只觉有三
根冷冰冰的手指搭上了自己腕脉。那婆婆只搭得片刻,便惊“噫”了一声,道:“奇怪之
极!”过了半晌,才道:“请换右手。”她搭完两手脉搏后,良久无语。令狐冲微微一笑
,说道:“前辈不必为弟子生死担忧。弟子自知命不久长,一切早已置之度外。”那婆婆
道:“你何以自知命不久长?”令狐冲道:“弟子误杀师弟,遗失了师门的《紫霞秘笈》
,我只盼早日找回秘笈,缴奉师父,便当自杀以谢师弟。”那婆婆道:“《紫霞秘笈》?
那也未必是甚么了不起的物事。你又怎地误杀了师弟?”令狐冲当下又将桃谷六仙如何为
自己治伤,如何六道真气在体内交战,如何师妹盗了师门秘笈来为自己治伤,如何自己拒
绝而师弟陆大有强自诵读,如何自己将之点倒,如何下手太重而致其死命等情一一说了。
那婆婆听完,说道:“你师弟不是你杀的。”令狐冲吃了一惊,道:“不是我杀的?”那
婆婆道:“你真气不纯,点那两个穴道,决计杀不了他。你师弟是旁人杀的。”令狐冲喃
喃的道:“那是谁杀了陆师弟?”那婆婆道:“偷盗秘笈之人,虽然不一定便是害你师弟
之人,但两者多少会有些牵连。”令狐冲吁了口长气,胸口登时移去了一块大石。他当时
原也已经想到,自己轻轻点了陆大有两处穴道,怎能制其死命?只是内心深处隐隐觉得,
就算陆大有不是自己点死,却也是为了自己而死,男子汉大丈夫岂可推卸罪责,寻些借口
来为自己开脱?这些日子来岳灵珊和林平之亲密异常,他伤心失望之余,早感全无生趣,
一心只往一个“死”字上去想,此刻经那婆婆一提,立时心生莫大愤慨:“报仇!报仇!
必当替陆师弟报仇!”那婆婆又道:“你说体内有六道真气相互交迸,可是我觉你脉象之
中,却有八道真气,那是何故?”令狐冲哈哈大笑,将不戒和尚替自己治病的情由说了。
那婆婆微微一笑,说道:“阁下性情开朗,脉息虽乱,并无衰歇之象。我再弹琴一曲
,请阁下品评如何?”令狐冲道:“前辈眷顾,弟子衷心铭感。”
那婆婆嗯了一声,琴韵又再响起。这一次的曲调却是柔和之至,宛如一人轻轻叹息,
又似是朝露暗润花瓣,晓风低拂柳梢。令狐冲听不多时,眼皮便越来越沉重,心中只道:
“睡不得,我在聆听前辈的抚琴,倘若睡着了,岂非大大的不敬?”但虽竭力凝神,却终
是难以抗拒睡魔,不久眼皮合拢,再也睁不开来,身子软倒在地,便即睡着了。睡梦之中
,仍隐隐约约听到柔和的琴声,似有一只温柔的手在抚摸自己头发,像是回到了童年,在
师娘的怀抱之中,受她亲热怜惜一般。过了良久良久,琴声止歇,令狐冲便即惊醒,忙爬
起身来,不禁大是惭愧,说道:“弟子该死,不专心聆听前辈雅奏,却竟尔睡着了,当真
好生惶恐。”
那婆婆道:“你不用自责。我适才奏曲,原有催眠之意,盼能为你调理体内真气。你
倒试自运内息,烦恶之情,可减少了些么?”令狐冲大喜,道:“多谢前辈。”当即盘膝
坐在地下,潜运内息,只觉那八股真气仍是相互冲突,但以前那股胸口立时热血上涌、便
欲呕吐的情景却已大减,可是只运得片刻,又已头晕脑胀,身子一侧,倒在地下。绿竹翁
忙趋前扶起,将他扶入房中。
那婆婆道:“桃谷六仙和不戒大师功力深厚,所种下的真气,非我浅薄琴音所能调理
,反令阁下多受痛楚,甚是过意不去。”令狐冲忙道:“前辈说哪里话来?得闻此曲,弟
子已大为受益。绿竹翁提起笔来,在砚池中蘸了些墨,在纸上写道:“恳请传授此曲,终
身受益。”令狐冲登时省悟,说道:“弟子斗胆求请前辈传授此曲,以便弟子自行慢慢调
理。”绿竹翁脸现喜色,连连点头。那婆婆并不即答,过了片刻,才道:“你琴艺如何?
可否抚奏一曲?”令狐冲脸上一红,说道:“弟子从未学过,一窍不通,要从前辈学此高
深琴技,实深冒昧,还请恕过弟子狂妄。”当下向绿竹翁长揖到地,说道:“弟子这便告
辞。”那婆婆道:“阁下慢走。承你慨赠妙曲,愧无以报,阁下伤重难愈,亦令人思之不
安。竹侄,你明日以奏琴之法传授令狐冲君,倘若他有耐心,能在洛阳久耽,那么……那
么我这一曲《清心普善咒》,便传了给他,亦自不妨。”最后两句话语声细微,几不可闻
。次日清晨,令狐冲便来小巷竹舍中学琴。绿竹翁取出一张焦尾桐琴,授以音律,说道:
“乐律十二律,是为黄钟、大吕、太簇、夹钟、姑洗、中吕、蕤宾、林钟、夷则、南吕、
无射、应钟。此是自古已有,据说当年黄帝命伶伦为律,闻凤凰之鸣而制十二律。瑶琴七
弦,具宫、商、角、微、羽五音,一弦为黄钟,三弦为宫调。五调为慢角、清商、宫调、
慢宫、及蕤宾调。”当下依次详加解释。
令狐冲虽于音律一窍不通,但天资聪明,一点便透。绿竹翁甚是喜欢,当即授以指法
,教他试奏一曲极短的《碧霄吟》。令狐冲学得几遍,弹奏出来,虽有数音不准,指法生
涩,却洋洋然颇有青天一碧、万里无云的空阔气象。一曲既终,那婆婆在隔舍听了,轻叹
一声,道:“令狐少君,你学琴如此聪明,多半不久便能学《清心普善咒》了。”绿竹翁
道:“姑姑,令狐兄弟今日初学,但弹奏这曲《碧霄吟》,琴中意象已比侄儿为高。琴为
心声,想是因他胸襟豁达之故。”令狐冲谦谢道:“前辈过奖了,不知要到何年何月,弟
子才能如前辈这般弹奏那《笑傲江湖之曲》。”那婆婆失声道:“你……你也想弹奏那《
笑傲江湖之曲》么?”令狐冲脸上一红,道:“弟子昨日听得前辈琴箫雅奏,心下甚是羡
慕,那当然是痴心妄想,连绿竹前辈尚且不能弹奏,弟子又哪里够得上?”那婆婆不语,
过了半晌,低声道:“倘若你能弹琴,自是大佳……”语音渐低,随后是轻轻的一声叹息
。如此一连二十余日,令狐冲一早便到小巷竹舍中来学琴,直至傍晚始归,中饭也在绿竹
翁处吃,虽是青菜豆腐,却比王家的大鱼大肉吃得更有滋味,更妙在每餐都有好酒。绿竹
翁酒量虽不甚高,备的酒却是上佳精品。他于酒道所知极多,于天下美酒不但深明来历,
而且年份产地,一尝即辨。令狐冲听来闻所未闻,不但跟他学琴,更向他学酒,深觉酒中
学问,比之剑道琴理,似乎也不遑多让。
有几日绿竹翁出去贩卖竹器,便由那婆婆隔着竹帘教导。到得后来,令狐冲于琴中所
提的种种疑难,绿竹翁常自无法解答,须得那婆婆亲自指点。
但令狐冲始终未见过那婆婆一面,只是听她语音轻柔,倒似是位大家的千金小姐,哪
像陋巷贫居的一个老妇?料想她雅善音乐,自幼深受熏冶,因之连说话的声音也好听了,
至老不变。这日那婆婆传授了一曲《有所思》,这是汉时古曲,节奏婉转。令狐冲听了数
遍,依法抚琴。他不知不觉想起当日和岳灵珊两小无猜、同游共乐的情景,又想到瀑布中
练剑,思过崖上送饭,小师妹对自己的柔情密意,后来无端来了个林平之,小师妹对待自
己竟一日冷淡过一日。他心中凄楚,突然之间,琴调一变,竟尔出现了几下福建山歌的曲
调,正是岳灵珊那日下崖时所唱。他一惊之下,立时住手不弹。那婆婆温言道:“这一曲
《有所思》,你本来奏得极好,意与情融,深得曲理,想必你心中想到了往昔之事。只是
忽然出现闽音,曲调似是俚歌,令人大为不解,却是何故?”令狐冲生性本来开朗,这番
心事在胸中郁积已久,那婆婆这二十多天来又对他极好,忍不住便吐露自己苦恋岳灵珊的
心情。他只说了个开头,便再难抑止,竟原原本本的将种种情由尽行说了,便将那婆婆当
作自己的祖母、母亲,或是亲姊姊、妹妹一般,待得说完,这才大感惭愧,说道:“婆婆
,弟子的无聊心事,唠唠叨叨的说了这半天,真是……真是……”那婆婆轻声道:“‘缘
’之一事,不能强求。古人道得好:‘各有因缘莫羡人’。令狐少君,你今日虽然失意,
他日未始不能另有佳偶。”令狐冲大声道:“弟子也不知能再活得几日,室家之想,那是
永远不会有的了。”那婆婆不再说话,琴音轻轻,奏了起来,却是那曲《清心普善咒》。
令狐冲听得片刻,便已昏昏欲睡。那婆婆止了琴音,说道:“现下我起始授你此曲,大概
有十日之功,便可学完。此后每日弹奏,往时功力虽然不能尽复,多少总会有些好处。”
令狐冲应道:“是。”
那婆婆当即传了曲谱指法,令狐冲用心记忆。如此学了四日,第五日令狐冲又要到小
巷去学琴,劳德诺忽然匆匆过来,说道:“大师哥,师父吩咐,咱们明日要走了。”令狐
冲一怔,道:“明日便走了?我……我……”想要说“我的琴曲还没学全呢”,话到口边
,却又缩回。劳德诺道:“师娘叫你收拾收拾,明儿一早动身。”
令狐冲答应了,当下快步来到绿竹小舍,向婆婆道:“弟子明日要告辞了。”那婆婆
一怔,半晌不语,隔了良久,才轻轻道:“去得这么急!你……你这一曲还没学全呢。”
令狐冲道:“弟子也这么想。只是师命难违。再说,我们异乡为客,也不能在人家家中久
居。”那婆婆道:“那也说得是。”当下传授曲调指法,与往日无异。
令狐冲与那婆婆相处多日,虽然从未见过她一面,但从琴音说话之中,知她对自己颇
为关怀,无异亲人。只是她性子淡泊,偶然说了一句关切的话,立即杂以他语,显是不想
让他知道心意。这世上对令狐冲最关心的,本来是岳不群夫妇、岳灵珊与陆大有四人,现
下陆大有已死,岳灵珊全心全意放在林平之身上,师父师母对他又有了疑忌之意,他觉得
真正的亲人,倒是绿竹翁和那婆婆二人了。这一日中,他几次三番想跟绿竹翁陈说,要在
这小巷中留居,既学琴箫,又学竹匠之艺,不再回归华山派,但一想到岳灵珊的倩影,终
究割舍不下,心想:“小师妹就算不理我,不睬我,我每日只见她一面,纵然只见到她的
背影,听到一句她的说话声音,也是好的。何况她又没不睬我?”
傍晚临别之际,对绿竹翁和那婆婆甚有依恋之情,走到婆婆窗下,跪倒拜了几拜,依
稀见竹帘之中,那婆婆却也跪倒还礼,听她说道:“我虽传你琴技,但此是报答你赠曲之
德,令狐少君为何行此大礼?”令狐冲道:“今日一别,不知何日得能再聆前辈雅奏。令
狐冲但教不死,定当再到洛阳,拜访婆婆和竹翁。”心中忽想:“他二人年纪老迈,不知
还有几年可活,下次我来洛阳,未必再能见到。”言下想到人生如梦如露,不由得声音便
哽咽了。
那婆婆道:“令狐少君,临别之际,我有一言相劝。”令狐冲道:“是,前辈教诲,
令狐冲不敢或忘。”但那婆婆始终不说话,过了良久良久,才轻声说道:“江湖风波险恶
,多多保重。”
令狐冲道:“是。”心中一酸,躬身向绿竹翁告别。

Anonymous:

What language was that? My minimally funtional English is the only medium through which I communicate with westerners if they don't speak chinese.
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FOR IDIOTS LIKE YOU:

THIS IS NOT CHINESE FORUM! THIS IS NOT A CHINESE COUNTRY AND YOU HAVE TO TALK ENGLISH OR ANOTHER AMERICAN LANGUAGE(like Cajun French) HERE, YOU DUMB ARROGANT IDIOT!

日啖荔枝三百颗:

"Fox" news indeed. Cunning.

日啖荔枝三百颗 :

摘自世界论坛

12岁女孩说出南奥真相 福克斯主播说“要插播广告了”

  美国福克斯新闻日前以突发新闻形式,访问从南奥塞梯首府茨欣瓦利战场返回美国三藩市湾区的母女俩。可能事前没有与母女俩沟通过,当听到母女俩说出在茨欣瓦利的亲身经历,并不是福克斯新闻想要听的,新闻主播史密斯(Shep Smith)粗暴打断她们的讲话。对于福克斯新闻这种处理手法,很多网友都看不下去,同声谴责,并质疑美国有没有闻自由。

  这段访问的片段,被网友放了上网,已有数以万计的人看过。或许是没有事前沟通,当听到小女孩说“是格鲁吉亚军先开炮,感谢俄军把她们救出来”,主播史密斯的脸色都变了,当女孩的妈妈批评格鲁吉亚总统萨卡什维利侵略南奥塞梯,应该下台,史密斯不得不说“要打断你,要插播广告了。”可那母亲也不是省油的灯,回了一句“是的,我知道你们不想听这些”。

  福克斯新闻对待母女俩的态度,惹来不少非议。美国网友wpsmithjr说,福克斯新闻的做法,是在扭曲新闻,只是宣传,让人恶心。那对母女正在试图说出在格鲁吉亚见到的真相,但由于这不是美国政府所支持的讲法,于是福克斯新闻把她们消音了。

  

日啖荔枝三百颗:

@Anonymous

What language was that? My minimally funtional English is the only medium through which I communicate with westerners if they don't speak chinese. In the future we may be able to communicate in Bengali, but I am not there yet. However, reading it like english (since it "looks" like english) I guess Dalai Lama was overtaken by fatigue and fell ill and is currently recieving medical care in India. I wish him well. He is a respectable person in himself.

Anonymous:

Chinese police investigating a spate of attacks this month in western Xinjiang province shot dead six suspects and arrested three others, state media reported.

An exile group, meanwhile, accused police Saturday of gunning down the suspects, members of the Muslim Uighur ethnic minority, after they surrendered.

Police encountered nine suspects in a corn field near the far western city of Kashgar on Friday evening, the official Xinhua News Agency reported. The suspects had knives and tried to resist arrest, putting up a "desperate struggle," it said late Friday.

A policeman and a local militia man were wounded in the clash, the report said.

Initial investigations linked the suspects to attacks on Aug. 12 and Aug. 27, Xinhua said. The report gave no other details.

Dilxat Raxit, spokesman for the Germany-based World Uighur Congress, said armed police surrounded the corn field and asked the Uighur men through a loudspeaker to surrender themselves, promising to provide them with lawyers.

The suspects did not resist arrest and police with submachine guns opened fire after they had surrendered, Raxit said in a statement Saturday, citing accounts by local Uighurs.

An official from the Xinjiang government — speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media — said six suspects were shot dead. But he denied the men had been shot after surrendering and called the allegations "nonsense."

The predominantly Muslim region of Xinjiang saw three deadly attacks blamed on Uighur separatists before and during and the Beijing Olympics. Videos appeared online with self-professed Uighur militant groups threatening the games.

On Aug. 12, attackers jumped from a vehicle and stabbed civilian guards, killing three at a roadside checkpoint in Yamanya town, near Kashgar. The assailants escaped. Two Chinese policemen died and seven more were wounded after a clash Wednesday in a village in Jiashi county.

No one has claimed responsibility for any of the attacks. Government officials have blamed Uighur militants.

China has long said that insurgents among the region's dominant ethnic Uighurs are leading an Islamic separatist movement in Xinjiang — an oil and gas-rich region on the border with Afghanistan, Pakistan and six Central Asian nations.

The Uighurs are Turkic-speaking Muslims with a language and culture distinct from the majority of Chinese.

Critics accuse Beijing of using claims of terrorism as an excuse to crack down on peaceful, pro-independence sentiment and expressions of Uighur identity.

Ronald:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/28/2349649.htm?section=justin
Please, read this piece. It took Australia eight years to admit the faked music at Sydney opening ceremony. LOL

Anonymous:

@ 日啖荔枝三百颗

Le dalaï lama a observé samedi un jeûne de 12 heures pour la paix au Tibet, malgré l'état de fatigue avancé qui l'a contraint à être hospitalisé depuis jeudi à Bombay, a indiqué son porte-parole.

En raison de son état de santé, le leader bouddhiste n'a pu se joindre aux quelque 2.000 exilés tibétains observant ce jeûne dans son temple de Dharamsala, en Inde. Il a décidé de prendre part à la manifestation depuis son lit d'hôpital, a indiqué son porte-parole Tenzin Takla à l'Associated Press.

"Le jeûne de 12 heures a pour but de dépasser et d'apaiser les conflits et la souffrance dans le monde, et particulièrement de promouvoir la paix et la justice pour les peuples du Tibet et de la Chine", pouvait-on lire sur un drapeau déployé devant le temple bouddhiste.

Le dalaï lama, 73 ans, a été hospitalisé jeudi à Bombay après avoir annulé ses voyages prévus au Mexique et en République dominicaine en raison d'un état de fatigue avancé. Le leader spirituel, qui passe plusieurs mois de l'année à l'étranger, rentrait d'une visite de 11 jours en France.

Le dalaï lama devrait sortir de l'hôpital dans un jour ou deux, selon Tenzin Takla. Vendredi, son bureau a diffusé un communiqué affirmant que les médecins "avaient donné l'assurance qu'il n'y avait absolument aucun sujet d'inquiétude" à propos de sa santé. "Tout ce dont il a besoin, c'est d'un bon repos", indiquait ce communiqué.

Liu Ming:

"Starting on Friday, China’s victorious Olympic athletes will pay a visit to Hong Kong. The timing of their trip to the semi-autonomous region is not an accident -- legislative elections are due in the territory on September 7, with the central government particularly interested in the result. It has been quick to play down a link, but the athletes’ parades and demonstrations do appear to be taking place in areas particularly contested between pro-Beijing and pro-democracy groups..."

http://www.oxan.com/worldnextweek/2008-08-28/HongKongElections.aspx

日啖荔枝三百颗:

摘自世界论坛

举世瞩目的北京奥运会落幕前夕,达赖也悄悄的结束了他的法国之行。考虑到达赖几年前就选择在奥运会期间访问法国,显示这绝非一时之兴。达赖频频穿梭往返与各西方国家,目的不过有二。一是发展教徒,扩大影响。二是强化西方对他的支持。而西方也乐的给予他施展的舞台。然而,此次的法国之行如果与过往的轰轰烈烈相比,则显得寂静落寞的多。显然达赖再次体会到形势比人强的滋味。与往常一样,他在法国接受了各媒体的采访,不一样的是,他拒绝了中文媒体的参与。达赖面对西方的媒体,早已是驾轻就熟,总是借机凸显其对中国政府的和平姿态,以反衬中国政府对他的“不公”对待。此次,自然仍不例外。甚至他的政治诉求更加低调,从过去要求完全自治,到现在多次重申追求“在中华人民共和国宪法框架范围内寻求民族区域自治”,并多次表示承认中国的社会主义制度。当然,这一次也少不了表达对北京奥运会的支持和祝福。这显然与流亡海外藏人以及不惜开罪中国而支持他的西方社会的立场有不少距离。而常常令他们为之尴尬,毕竟达赖声称不追求独立与支持北京奥运会令西方支持西藏独立并借机要求抵制奥运会的诉求失去了正当性。而正是这种距离,使我们看到了达赖集团与西方表面支持被后的真正关系。

  达赖自流亡海外后,其立场多有变化。冷战时义正言辞、立场坚定追求独立。中美建交后,他的立场开始软化,开始向高度自治演变,并逐步放弃暴力。但是冷战结束时,中国改革开放遇到瓶颈和挫折,而此时的他再次受到西方青睐并获得诺贝尔和平奖,于是乎达赖的立场也再度强硬。然而,不久中国改革重回快车道,迅速崛起以及他年事已高,使得他手中的筹码几乎只剩下了西方的支持。按说,达赖面对这一局面,应该完全顺应西方的立场和要求,继续彻底充当西方的工具才合乎逻辑。然而,奇怪的是,达赖却对中国政府频频伸出“橄榄枝”,立场、要价一再退让,甚至在接受美国布什颁发的国会最高奖而达到人生的另一个高潮时,居然破天荒地首次公开承认自己是中国人,承认西藏是中国的一部分,并声称西藏留在中国对西藏人民有利。更不惜开罪对他颇有支持的台湾民进党政府声称台湾也是中国的一部分。这奇特的一幕就要从西藏与西方长达几十年的交往中寻找答案了。

  也许达赖的二哥嘉乐顿珠,这个曾经五十多年充当中国政府与达赖集团对话中间使者的感触最有说服力。1952年,毛泽东主席让他代表中国青年代表团出国访问,于是他借机出逃到印度。“出去后就发生了一些事情,结果是美国人来找我,英国人来找我,印度人来找我,国民党的人来找我,结果都是空话。”如果他的这段肺腑之言,只是说明了西方的虚伪,而下一段则说明了西方的卑鄙与险恶。“国际纷争啊,危机四伏,有个计谋叫‘反间计’,利用汉藏关系,XX的情报局,XX的情报局,XX的情报局,用‘反间计’到西藏鼓吹谣言。他们有的人利用和达赖喇嘛会面时照照像,或者录个影,这个很容易嘛,然后利用各种机会带到西藏来,说是达赖喇嘛的意思。他们很厉害!几十年哪,是什么原因?怎么使汉藏不合?我们刚刚上当,是傻瓜蛋。……我常常说‘鹬蚌相争,渔人得利’。”

  西藏流亡政府的象征达赖,在其流亡的近五十年间,不仅充满了被西方利用、出卖、玩于股掌、口惠而实不至甚至被利用来反华的痛苦经历,更切身体会到西方根本无意甚至破坏西藏问题的解决,否则他们也将少了一个向中国讨价还价的筹码。历经沧桑终于明白一切的达赖应该不仅后悔他年青的草率和对西方的轻信而出走祖国,更终于明白西藏问题的解决只有依赖中国政府。这就是为什么他一方面继续周旋于西方,另一方面却逆西方而屡屡向中国妥协退让的根源。这更是洞悉一切的中国不为西方要挟所动的原因。而此次西方借奥运会之际利用西藏问题的表演结局也不过再次印证了这一点。对自已和西方有了清醒务实认识的达赖,也许会日益临近西藏问题的解决,中国政府发言人所说的“希望达赖有生之年能够回到西藏”应是他最大的心声和追求。

  法国巴黎宋鲁郑 《联合早报网》

Anonymous:

日啖荔枝三百颗:

//Hi, Anonymous, I guess you missed my play. Here it is for you again://

ohh.. hi.. i think you missed a doctor and psychiatric help.

Lol:

Western media has already lost their credibility to Chinese since the Tibet riot.We now do not care the corrupted western media have to say about China. Don't use the endorsement of western media to threaten Chinese. No use.

Funny to see a lot of "western" jackets here that cover their true ID of Tibetan exile and East Turkic terrorists.

A lot of baloney and blather here to pretend "western" moral instruction,which is decadent to the lowest by nowadays invasion and killing.

Release:

The Beijing Municipal Reeducation-Through-Labor Decision Committee rescinded its sentence of two grannies to a year of Reeducation-Through-Labor.

Wu Dianyuan and Wang Xiuying were sentenced after applying for permits to demonstrate in the officially designated "protest zones" during the Beijing Olympics....

http://www.hrichina.org/public/contents/77060

peacemaker:

@Zeke,
...nobody is complaining the science and technology achievement by the WEST.

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The reason I made that point was to confront all of the zero-sum mentality idiots on this board.

And be realistic, the Chinese are also committing atrocities all over the world. Darfur, Tibet, aiming missiles at Taiwan, Xingjiang, supporting the North Koreans, the Burmese dictators, the Vietnamese communists, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Angola blood diamond trade, cyberwarfare that has already destroys billions of dollars of assets, triad influence in Canada, etc, etc. -btw, if you never heard of the sidewinder report, do a goggle and see what your own government has been up to.

It's no wonder that China is not always portrayed as a peaceful, harmonious country in the western media. (not to mention the massive IP thief and being the victims of poor quality goods shipped by dishonest Chinese exporters).

Add:

I know in China the book "Currency Wars" by Song Hongbing (Huobi Zhanzheng) has been very popular.
In the west, we've known about the elite's agenda for 100+ years already. This group of money manipulators are the real enemy of all people, Chinese and Westerners alike. These are the people that own the media. Don't blame the people, look deeper.

>Peace

Bridges:

In 1889, seven years before the founding of the modern international Olympics, the British author Rudyard Kipling intoned: "Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet/'Till Earth and Sky stand present at God's great Judgment Seat."

Do this month's games falsify or affirm Kipling's geocultural assessment?

The night of opening ceremonies, a 1,000-person crowd at Beijing's main train station, which had peacefully gathered to watch a large-screen projection of the show, was dispersed by police. Authorities turned off the TV in the middle of the spectacle.

This manufactured uniformity is both a triumph and a challenge for China. Perhaps the sacrifice of individual pleasures for collective achievement is acceptable to the people of China and other Eastern cultures in a way it isn't in the West...

http://mba.yale.edu/news_events/CMS/Articles/6574.shtml

日啖荔枝三百颗:

//lol.. stupid chinese.. Dalai Lama even not want a territorial indepence..//

Hi, Anonymous, I guess you missed my play. Here it is for you again:

Mayan King: Free America from white colonists! America is the real Tibet! My people! Though few in number today, but, Rise! Fight for freedom!!

Dalai Lama: Hold it! Hold it... Violence is no good.

Mayan King: But they are violent!

Obama: Yes, yes...They just tried to kill me...

Dalai Lama: Violence is no good! I repeat!

Mayan King: Monk! You hypocrite! Your people doubled in population in the past 50 years, speaking your own language, wearing your own clothes, going to your own temples. Look at mine! We are hardly existent today! Tibet is no Tibet! America is the true Tibet! How on earth I do not have your supports?!Rise! My people! Fight for our freedom!!

Dalai Lama: Since the genocides and cultural genocides have been done successfully and completely, no one can see their traces anymore. And the white men can say that you are mad and lock you up in an asylum. Wise up, my friend!

Mayan King: Those life sucking whites!!

Dalai Lama: Perhaps you could do what I do...?

Mayan King: And what is that?

Dalai Lama: You could claim autonomy only?

Mayan King: Genius monk you are! But...how can the WHOLE of America be an autonomy?

Dalai Lama: ... ...

玛雅王: 解放美洲!赶走白人殖民者!我们虽然所剩无几,但是,起来!为自由而战!

达赖喇嘛: 慢着!不要暴力!

玛雅王: 但他们暴力!

奥巴玛: 没错,没错,刚刚还想打死我呢....

达赖喇嘛: 再说一遍,不要暴力!

玛雅王: 法师!别装模做样!你们人口五十年多了一半,说藏语,穿藏袍,上藏庙.再看看我们,还剩下些什么!西藏不是西藏!美洲才是真正的西藏!天底下能有什么理由让你不支持我?!乡亲们,起来!为自由而战!

达赖喇嘛: 他们的人口屠杀,文化屠杀都已经彻底成功了.再无蛛丝马迹可寻.那些白人会把你当疯子关起来.老兄,放聪明点!

玛雅王: 那些吸血鬼!

达赖喇嘛: 要不要用我的法子....?

玛雅王: 说说看?

达赖喇嘛: 光要求自治,怎样?

玛雅王: 法师神算!不过....我能要求整个美洲都自治吗?!

达赖喇嘛: 这个嘛....


watchingchina:

Another comment by Netizen watchingchina:

All of this China-bashing has many precendents, all in the US (and unfortunately Canada's Globe & Mail, by contamination), and a bit from papers like the Economist.

The same thing happened with Japan some years ago when that country was ascending in power. The US press (and the Economist) were full of stories about "The Yellow Peril". Do you remember?

The US and the Western press generally ignore Canada, but after 9-11 when Bush wanted to go to war with Iraq and Canada refused to join, the US press was almost instantly full of vitriol for Canada.

We were accused of having a 'leaky border', of having harbored the 9-11 terrorists, of even having trained them before they came to the US. The papers said those terrorists came from Canada, and some even claimed they had Canadian passports. All of that was untrue, and there was much more, all of it vicious, dirty, nasty and false.

Then finally Canada agreed to send some troops to Afghanistan to support Bush there. And you know what? Almost in a day, all the bad press about Canada stopped, and the US press ignores us again.

That's all it is. "If you're not with us, you're against us." All the China-bashing in the world would cease in a day if only Hu Jintao would go to Washington and kiss George Bush's a**.

Anonymous:

BEIJING, Aug 28 (Reuters) - China launched a new attack on exiled Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama on Thursday, denouncing what it said were his "lies" about Tibet and saying the region would never become independent.
The Dalai Lama earlier this month criticised some aspects of Chinese rule over Tibet, which he fled in 1959 after an abortive uprising.
He told Le Monde newspaper during a visit to France that Chinese troops had fired on protesters in eastern Tibet on Aug. 18, and that 400 people had been killed in the Lhasa area alone since protests against Chinese rule broke out in March.
But an opinion piece carried by China's official Xinhua news agency said the more "lies" the Dalai Lama told, the less he would be believed.
"The larger a balloon is blown, the easier it will be to pop. The more shocking the lies, the easier it will be to expose them," Xinhua said.
China's crackdown on protests in Tibet in March drew widespread international criticism.
China accused the Dalai Lama and his allies of orchestrating the trouble, and of trying to derail the Beijing Olympic Games.
The Dalai Lama denied the allegations, saying that he supported the Olympics and that the Chinese people deserved to host them.
"The Beijing Olympics let the whole world better understand a modern China which is open, developing and self-confident," Xinhua said.
"Conversely, there are fewer and fewer viewers interested in the Dalai's political performances in international society, even including in some Western countries," it said.
China has ruled Tibet with an iron fist since its troops marched into the remote Himalayan region in 1950.
Xinhua did not directly mention recent talks between Chinese officials and envoys of the Nobel Peace Prize-winning Dalai Lama, but said the government had always had a "tolerant, patient and sincere" attitude towards him.
"The Chinese government ... hopes he realises his errors and amends his ways on the evil road of plotting splittism," it said.
"Tibet independence has no future, and neither does splittism," it said.
The Dalai Lama says he does not seek independence for Tibet, only broad autonomy.
An aide said in India on Wednesday that the Dalai Lama is exhausted and had cancelled two foreign trips to rest and undergo medical tests.

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lol.. stupid chinese.. Dalai Lama even not want a territorial indepence..

Anonymous:

Wisdom sea is shoreless tank,
Voyagers please turn back;
Forget about Human Rights,
Just eat your human rice:)

Anonymous:

夢飲酒者,旦而哭泣;夢哭泣者,旦而田獵。方其夢也,不知其夢也。夢之中又占其夢焉,覺而後知其夢也。且有大覺而後知此其大夢也,而愚者自以為覺,竊竊然知之。君乎,牧乎,固哉!丘也,與女皆夢也;予謂女夢,亦夢也。是其言也,其名為弔詭。萬世之後,而一遇大聖知其解者,是旦暮遇之也。

既使我與若辯矣,若勝我,我不若勝,若果是也?我果非也邪?我勝若,若不吾勝,我果是也?而果非也邪?其或是也,其或非也邪?其俱是也,其俱非也邪?我與若不能相知也,則人固受其黮闇。吾誰使正之?使同乎若者正之,既與若同矣,惡能正之!使同乎我者正之,既同乎我矣,惡能正之!使異乎我與若者正之,既異乎我與若矣,惡能正之!使同乎我與若者正之,既同乎我與若矣,惡能正之!然則我與若與人俱不能相知也,而待彼也邪?

Shameless Anonymous is back:

蜩與學鳩笑之曰:「我決起而飛,槍榆枋而止,時則不至而控於地而已矣,奚以之九萬里而南為?」適莽蒼者,三餐而反,腹猶果然;適百里者,宿舂糧;適千里者,三月聚糧。之二蟲又何知!

  小知不及大知,小年不及大年。奚以知其然也?朝菌不知晦朔,蟪蛄不知春秋,此小年也。楚之南有冥靈者,以五百歲為春,五百歲為秋;上古有大椿者,以八千歲為春,八千歲為秋。而彭祖乃今以久特聞,衆人匹之,不亦悲乎!

  湯之問棘也是已。窮髮之北有冥海者,天池也。有魚焉,其廣數千里,未有知其修者,其名為鯤。有鳥焉,其名為鵬,背若太山,翼若垂天之雲,摶扶搖羊角而上者九萬里,絕雲氣,負青天,然後圖南,且適南冥也。斥鴳笑之曰:「彼且奚適也?我騰躍而上,不過數仞而下,翱翔蓬蒿之間,此亦飛之至也,而彼且奚適也?」此小大之辯也。

Zeke:

Peacemaker wrote:
"If the PRC is such a great power and demands respect, please name me just one item that was invented in China in say the past 100 years that the world uses on a daily basis?

From the west you get the computer you are sitting in front of, the internet, the com network, cellphones, airplanes, autos, trains, advanced medicine, space travel, Genome research, particle research, electricity etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Get my point? There is no need to constantly bash the west. I don't care how much you hate westerners, without them, the majority of Chinese would still be planting rice, using an abacus and many would probably be speaking Japanese. So stop being so damn narrow-minded and GROW UP!"

PEACEMAKER, nobody is complaining the science and technology achievement by the WEST. People are complaining that after the WEST committed all the atrocity in North America South America, Africa and Asia, it point its bloody finger at other people and believe how righteous it is.

LoL :

Germany held two Olympics, first as Nazi Germany in 1936, and later as democratic Germany in 1972.

China will probably hold the next Olympics after the Commie regime has toppled :-)

Citizen of the post-American world:

I read some worry China may not be able to carry the post-Olympic torch.

Here is a suggestion.

Turn your attention to Shanghai, where the forthcoming World Expo 2010 is to be held, as well as to all the Chinese achievements that will lead to that event.

I predict it too will be perceived as a landmark: magnificent Shanghai will then reveal itself as the leading business and financial world centre it has become.

China-bashers have a bright future, provided they refocus and get down to it right now; ahead, two long years of pure enjoyment.

Peacemaker:

Nobody demands respect from you. We just point out what evils and a bunch of hypocrites you guys really are. If it hurts, so be it. Without China inventing paper and dynamite, you guys might probably be writing on your white ass and digging tunnel with your bare hand. If you can face reality and take criticism from somebody you look down upon, you are no better than the other side.

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When graduate kindergarten, please come back with a better reply. 谢谢

@ Peacemaker:

I have not heard one word from Chinese government or individuals saying that China is a great power and demand respect. Those words was spread by western media to justify their threat from China theory. Nobody in their right mind would want to be a "BIG POWER", knowing full well what the so-called big powe from Europe has done to other people all over the world. Wake up. You can no longer dictate how other countries should behave. Look at the mess you guys done to Iraqi and to yourselves after the invasion of Iraq under the pretence of freedom and liberty.

@ Peacemaker:

Nobody demands respect from you. We just point out what evils and a bunch of hypocrites you guys really are. If it hurts, so be it. Without China inventing paper and dynamite, you guys might probably be writing on your white ass and digging tunnel with your bare hand. If you can face reality and take criticism from somebody you look down upon, you are no better than the other side.

Peacemaker:

“Every Chinese wants to get back the name which once belonged to this land; the name is ‘great power’....."

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This isn't addressed to the poster of that quote, it's addressed to all of the west-bashers on this thread that believe it:

If the PRC is such a great power and demands respect, please name me just one item that was invented in China in say the past 100 years that the world uses on a daily basis?

From the west you get the computer you are sitting in front of, the internet, the com network, cellphones, airplanes, autos, trains, advanced medicine, space travel, Genome research, particle research, electricity etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Get my point? There is no need to constantly bash the west. I don't care how much you hate westerners, without them, the majority of Chinese would still be planting rice, using an abacus and many would probably be speaking Japanese. So stop being so damn narrow-minded and GROW UP!

And while your at it, get off the 200 years of humiliation crap, your own leader killed 20 million people only 40 years ago, yet you still worship the guy. Why is that OK? Can't you see your hate is focused in the wrong direction?

Respect must be earned. You can never demand it. Most Western people do respect the Chinese and want to be friends with China. Its not a competition about who is smarter or gets more medals. Its about building a better life for everyone.

PS. Taiwan, peace with, not piece of China!!!!

Ronald:

Freedom of the press and freedom of speech.
Read this.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-08/29/content_6980225.htm
What a joke. German is very anti-China for sure.
Good luck, Seimen . You will get more work from Chinese government.

Summary:

"China’s leaders are basking in the afterglow of a successful Beijing Olympics, hoping the Games will be remembered as the moment when the world recognized and celebrated China’s emergence as a resurgent global superpower.

But the Beijing Olympics were never really about making money. It was about rallying the nation around a common cause, of earning international respect and admiration for China.

Their ability to stage a successful Olympics, as beamed into hundreds of millions of Chinese homes, builds a sense of national unity and purpose and shows the Chinese people that their leaders can deliver..."

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/article.print?id=11250

日啖荔枝三百颗:

说过民主的平庸.现在说说民主的庸俗.

"假唱"事件本来可以这样理解:好看女孩的歌声不够好,才换上别人的声音, 又或样子和声音同时找(事实上,两人的名字都在节目单上).那么最多是不够正当,但不会伤害到唱歌女孩.然而西方刻意从相反方向看,按丑闻来理解,造成那个"丑陋"女孩的照片到处都是,渲染她的牙齿和嘴唇之不美,全世界都知道她"丑",则很可能伤害她一生.此事上,西方看来开明和公义,实则市井而冷酷.

民主的品味往往就如此恶俗.象美国的"reality show"之类以当众羞辱不幸的人为大众娱乐的节目均事出有因.

Pomfret 先生刚登过与"假唱"有关的油滑文字以及支持他的大批逐臭之夫的贴子,可以活灵活现地印证我的分析.

Anonymous:

BEIJING (AFP) — The income gap between urban and rural areas in China is the worst in a generation, state media reported Friday, five years after leaders made equality a top policy aim.

The average city dweller received an income last year that was 3.33 times larger than that of his compatriot in the countryside, the China Youth Daily said, citing Agriculture Minister Sun Zhengcai. In 2006, the figure was 3.28.

"Especially this year, a growing number of factors make for an uncertain income outlook for farmers," Sun was quoted as saying. "It will be rather difficult to achieve speedy growth in farm incomes."

The current generation of leaders in Beijing have made it their top project to increase equality in Chinese society, with a focus on the divide between the urban and the rural population, in part to avoid social unrest.

"We will develop more channels to increase rural incomes," Premier Wen Jiabao said in his annual "state-of-the-union" address to parliament in March, as he promised increased spending on the agriculture sector.

The income gap between urban and rural areas has been growing steadily over the past years, official data shows. In 2000, the average urban income was 2.79 times larger than the average rural income.

The lowest level was in 1984, when the figure was just 1.71, down from 2.37 in 1978, reflecting the fact that the early years of economic reform in China especially benefited the farmers.

Anonymous:

China’s leaders are basking in the afterglow of a successful Beijing Olympics, hoping the games will be remembered as the moment when the world recognised and celebrated China’s emergence as a resurgent global superpower. The state-run media are flush with self-congratulatory prose; individual bloggers and Internet contributors are sharing dreams of glory.
“Every Chinese wants to get back the name which once belonged to this land; the name is ‘great power’, writes contributor Wang Li on the website China.com.cn. “Yes, it is such a great power that, all neighbours submit to her and all foreigners come to her to offer congratulations. It is such a great power that anyone who offends the powerful Han will be destroyed regardless of the distance.”
That’s putting it more baldly than many Chinese might like, although the mass lashing out at foreign media and other critics, after China’s spring crackdown in Tibet and subsequent protests around the Olympic torch relay, suggest that a good number of the “powerful Han” don’t take criticism gladly.
For the Olympics, China’s leaders stressed global friendship, peace and harmony. And for seven years, China’s leaders have prepared Beijing to impress foreign visitors. The welcome started in the sleek new Beijing airport and continued with smooth traffic, because more than a million cars were banned during the games.
The air was cleared of much of its smog, because factory production had been shut down or scaled back during the Olympics ~ although it’s likely to return full-force once the last medals of the Paralympics are awarded in September. The parks are lush and green, with the millions of flowering plants cultivated especially for the Olympics, watered in this arid northern plain from diverted rivers that would otherwise go to farmers’ crops.
The migrant workers who helped build Beijing’s shiny new office towers and flashy shopping malls are now in the midst of a two-month enforced, unpaid vacation, because construction projects have been suspended during the Olympics.
“It’s been hard paying the rent, and I have to use my savings just to buy food to eat each day,” said Liu Chang Fa, a 40-year-old father of two. But when asked how he felt about that, he didn’t miss a beat. “I don’t have any complaints, because the Olympics are a good thing. For the glory of the country, it doesn’t matter if I feel some hardship.”
For seven years, China’s leaders have told Chinese they must sacrifice to build a great Olympics, to help China regain its rightful seat as a global superpower. Never mind that China’s impressive economic growth and outreach throughout Asia, Africa and Latin America has already been accomplishing that. The $100 million Beijing Olympics opening ceremony, choreographed by film director Zhang Yimou, was made to dazzle, with its bursts of fireworks leading as footprints from the Forbidden City to the iconic Bird’s Nest stadium, its cast of thousands and the poignant moment when an adorable little girl in red sang of her love for her country.
Of course, it was soon discovered that the adorable little girl was only lip-synching because the girl with the best voice wasn’t deemed the best looking, and that most of the firework footprints were computer generated. Director Zhang Yimou had an answer.
“I say to my team, ‘the audience throughout China cares about the results, not the process,’” he told China’s Southern Weekend newspaper. “No one will care why you made those modifications.”
Actually, even in China, news of these sleights of hand generated Internet buzz and discussion. Outside China, it was one of many jarring “it doesn’t matter how we get there as long as we present the right image” moments.
What raised more international concern were the activists imprisoned because they’d dared to criticise the Olympics, petitioners detained when applying to hold legal protests, a British journalist pummelled and dragged by police through a restaurant in a Beijing park, because he’d reported on a small “Free Tibet” protest.
Meanwhile, winsome Beijing mascots pranced on the Olympic fields, ultra-polite volunteers escorted Olympic visitors to half-empty venues ~ half-empty, because so many would-be visitors were denied visas in the pre-Olympics security crackdown ~ and state-run media trumpeted the great success of the Beijing Olympics and China’s rising gold medal count.
But the Beijing Olympics were never really about making money. It was about rallying the nation around a common cause, of earning international respect and admiration for China. For all its achievements, for all its economic growth and development and modernisation, China still hungers for that international recognition. Some Chinese speak of the “hundred year dream” of holding the Olympics. That dream goes back what Chinese schoolbooks call the “150 years of humiliation at the hands of foreign powers”, a time when some Westerners dubbed China “the sick man of Asia”. It also happened to be the time when Western missionaries brought Western sports to China in a big way ~ along with a sports culture that’s at the center of the modern Olympic Games.
“Beating the West at its own game definitely has a lot of meaning for Chinese people,” said Susan Brownell, a professor of sports anthropology at the University of Missouri~St. Louis, and a former US nationally ranked track and field athlete.
As a student at Beijing University in 1985-86, she competed in China’s National College Games and set China’s national record for the heptathlon. “I would say that’s what hosting the Olympic Games and the medal count mean to China ~ that we are playing your game and we are beating you.”
That sentiment plays well to a Chinese audience, less so to an international one. China’s leaders are caught between conflicting instincts ~ to play to both audiences, to trumpet China’s rise as a formidable power, while trying to reassure the world of its friendly, non-threatening nature.
But while China’s leaders care what the rest of the world thinks of China, they ultimately care more about what 1.3 billion Chinese think of them.
Their ability to stage a successful Olympics, as beamed into hundreds of millions of Chinese homes, builds a sense of national unity and purpose and shows the Chinese people that their leaders can deliver. In an era of rising inflation, slowing economic growth and an increasingly vocal population that stages tens of thousands of protests each year, that’s no small feat. Other problems can more easily be managed as background noise, if everyone can be persuaded to unite around the dream of China’s return to glory.

Anonymous:

"... if Putin hoped Beijing would support Russia's actions in Georgia with the same enthusiasm that Moscow endorsed China's putting down of restive minorities in Tibet and Xinjiang in recent months, he was disappointed.

China approaches all international situations involving minority rights and claims to sovereignty or self-determination with the utmost care.

It has too much at stake to be flippant. Not only are there the issues of Tibet and the majority Muslim Uigher province of Xinjiang, but also in its claim to the island nation of Taiwan and scores of disputed islands in the South China and East China seas.

So what messages will Beijing take from the Russian invasion of Georgia and the West's tepid response?

Well, Beijing certainly will not be happy if Russia gives official recognition to the independence of South Ossetia and Georgia's other breakaway province, Abkhazia.

China's fringe territories are bustling with ethnic minorities who nurse varying degrees of separatist aspirations. And an essential element in Beijing's foreign policy is ensuring that Taiwan does not get official international recognition of its de facto status as an independent nation.

Some commentators and analysts have speculated the West's clear lack of intention to offer Georgia military aid in the face of the Russian invasion might encourage Beijing to launch an invasion of Taiwan..."

http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=75ea3659-7ab6-49dd-a9a1-1aa7f773cdb2&sponsor=

日啖荔枝三百颗:

顺便说一下.现代汉语本身恶劣也许是Pomfret先生们不懂中国的原因之一.因此我们不应取笑他们的汉语水平.据说现代印度文也不上乘.我们这些文明古国真是尴尬多多.

日啖荔枝三百颗:

I recall a true story that illustrates the possible deceptions of democracy:

Some years back, Chess world champion Garry Kasparov played “against the world”: He posted a move on the internet, world people answered, the one move most voted was to be chosen to answer Kasparov. This was edvidently a typical democratic process, but something was intrincly wrong here: the voted move by definition was at the level of the average players, thus the game was in essence between a Grandmaster and an average player. Election of President Bush could be understood as such a move. In someone's term: they wanted someone like themselves.

日啖荔枝三百颗:

// 不同的世界,不同的认识!不同的意见!
如何实现“同一个世界、同一个梦想”!
世界大不同,却求世界大同!//


可能是用词问题.夫子曰,君子和而不同.小人同而不和.

中国的理想乃是君子之和,非小人之同.

现代汉语太松垮.

日啖荔枝三百颗 (new name for 吹笛闹市中):

Democracy is still a good thing.

But it only works in the lower hierachies of the civilization, or in the lower hierachies of a person's life.

Greece was quite ignorant of the higher hierachies of life: a brilliant but secular culture. Which makes modern western culture its fruit but also prey.

Most western achievements are of this nature. Say, modern physics.

India is the reversed case, messed up in its secular life, but transcends most others in its spiritual achievements.

Only China covers a full spectrum, but imperfections found in every intervals of the spectrum.

In this regard, China can still pick up a few good things from democracy, but never fancy its universality like it is pictured by westerners. Otherwise, we will produce fake artists like Andy Warhol, joke politicians like Bush, and... intellectuals like Mr. ...

To Zeke:
"Chauvinism" is only a concept. West's deeds of global conolization, slavery, Nazism, destruction of nature, world controling media dishonesty etc. are not conscequential to being "Chauvinist" but to being greedy, cruel, indifferent, and now hypocritical. China's traditional people were 10 times more confident than I am. Yet, when their fleet landed in Africa, they didn't rob land or men. I would not confuse the confidence, vision of an artist with the arrogance, ambition of a bandit.

浥尘丝雨:

不同的世界,不同的认识!不同的意见!
如何实现“同一个世界、同一个梦想”!
世界大不同,却求世界大同!

888:

"So, Did the Olympics Succeed?"

Well, the Olympics did'nt succeed in making the Tibetan and Uyghur freedom fighters go away.

quoting from popyard:

译者按:这是一位法国友人的信,读来十分感人。从字里行间流露的是对客观、公正和真理的强烈追求,是对时下西方和法国一些媒体单向思维、片面抨击中国作法的愤怒。此信表明,尽管一些媒体或政界人士的偏见,但法国人民还是有眼光的,还是对华友好的。因此该信值得一读。作者为让-雅克高德福瓦,物理学博士,大学教授,巴黎第七大学负责研究和推广事务的副校长,曾担任一系列学术与研究机构的负责人,工会活动者,左翼政党活动者,国际间大学交流、科技交流专家。
在今年以来法国政界、传媒界出现对华指责和攻击浪潮后,他和许多法国友人一起挺身而出,用讨论会等方式发表他们的看法,用事实说明中国发展的真相。对法国政界、传媒界一些以左翼党派为首的人物继续捧达赖,并用西藏问题来攻击中国的作法深表愤怒,为此写了这封公开信,发给各大报刊和政界要人,表示了自己鲜明的看法。笔者特意译出,让中国人民了解一个普通法国人的态度和观点。


有时法国并不代表法国人


让-雅克高德福瓦(法国) 姚蒙译

作为一个在传媒世界、即你们为之谋生的世界里默默无闻的人,我不得不站出来说话了。我比你们中间许多人都要有资格:我有一把年纪了,我在左派阵营战斗过,也看见你们中很多人的变化,而最终我还是站在左派一边。但是我不认为我是和你们一样的人。我把自己看作是历史学家,当然是业余的,因为我不是专业研究历史的。然而我认为历史学家是根据确定的事实而不是依据一个加足油的宣传系统所给的谣言来做结论。随便说一句,这样的宣传系统,中国还远远比不上。

要么你们无视亚洲的文化和政治的现实,而这对于你们这些大多数毕业于政治科学学院或国立行政学院的人来说是严重的问题;要么你们患上了一种自己觉得很舒服、而我们称之为“人权主义”加“梅纳尔”过分症的毛病,但是要当心“同志们”,你们不得不面对非洲人对我们前总统密特朗犯种族屠杀同谋罪的指责。要给人以道德教训是不容易的,谈到人权,自从人权宣言问世以来,我们法国人又干了多少践踏人权的事?

或许你们把反华作为内部政治立场一致的赌注来做,而这对于一个想要在国际事务中发挥作用的政党来说是不可原谅的。你们是否要加入美国自二战以来孤立中国以动摇中国的政治把戏呢?而神圣的达赖喇嘛明显也不过是其中的一个政治棋子而已。

在我看来,这一切因素都有了。我认为你们不配获得什么国际合法性。我也不看好你们中很多人和美国亦步亦趋的下场。

你们其实患上了一些媒体患的“新殖民主义”毛病,他们怀着恶意而只看见负面的东西,这从一系列书面和影视材料上就很容易得出结论。到底是什么使他们来操纵画面和评论?总有一天要向我们做出解释!当我想到我们在诋毁中国媒体时,“同志们”能不能先打扫一下我们自己的门口,然后才批评别人,好吗?

亲爱的朋友们,有这么一个大胆的假设:假定法国政界要负责在一个很大、有很多地区差异的国家管理13亿5千万人口,这里又有着种种的问题,还要在短短几十年里走出困境!我可以肯定用我们称做“民主”的制度将会是一个灾难:我们会看到出现无数个政党,带着地区特色,为了自己的利益争吵(如怎么资助贫困地区等等)。这是中国人民不希望看到的。他们优先发展经济,因为人们饿着肚子是创立不好民主制度的!

不要要求中国用几十年时间就走出一条民主的道路,而我们走这条道却也用了三个世纪。民主制度也是有不同类型的,中国产生的民主制肯定不会和我们的一模一样(我们的也肯定不是范本!!!)。

亲爱的“同志们”,我出生于比你们早的时代。你们知道上海的法国租界一个公园门口曾经写着“华人与狗禁止入内”吗?“人权宣言”万岁!你们是否就理解为何中国人看毛泽东带着自豪了:他把尊严给了中国人民,而他们在太长时间里受尽了我们亲爱的西方国家的侮辱。也就是这个原因尽管毛做了一些悲剧性的事,而今天人们并没有推翻他。

亲爱的“同志们”,学学历史,到中国走一走,去和中国人谈话交流一下吧。

而你们所没有意识到的,是不仅中国人民和他们在海外的移民面对这些外来的指责团结一致,连那些你们要捍卫的新兴国家的人民也都一致站在中国一边。一些对我和我朋友的采访证实了我们的看法:南美国家、阿拉伯国家、非洲国家很高兴听到那些没有进入“法国和西方政治正确”模子的法国人的声音。他们将对你们说:“把自己门前先打扫干净吧,我们听够了你们的教训了!”祝贺你们“同志们”,干得好。你们将和法国政界一样很难再爬上坡。而我们和你们相反,我们与我们的朋友一起在发展中国家面前拯救了法国的荣誉。不管你们高兴与否。

最后,我还看见你们抛弃了让我们团结在一起的一个基本原则:非宗教原则。当然,你们中不少人一面赞扬公立非宗教学校,一面却不把自己孩子送去就读,典型的政治双重语言。干那些我是不会干的事。但你们最大的无知就是一起去捍卫一个宗教人士,一个转世的神,他要求在一大片领土上逐走所有非其种族者而当上未来的国家元首(他说他无意这样做,但由于他对任何事有最终否决权,所以就能瞒过你们这些单纯的人!)。请读一读“西藏宪法”吧。如果不是全部的话,至少有一位法国政界人士、我们的让-吕克梅朗雄就了解这个问题。

我尊重达赖喇嘛作为一位重要的宗教领袖,虽然他代表的只是佛教中的很小一部分(约60分之1),在世界宗教各流派中只代表6%。我要揭露的是由于掌握了重要手段,喇嘛教在西方有意成为佛教的唯一代表。这就使法国电视二台的一位记者达尼埃尔比拉利昂在该电视台20点晚间新闻上说“达赖喇嘛是所有佛教徒的精神领袖”。

此外,我不能容忍的,是将宗教和政权混合在一起。因为所有宗教控制的政权都会导致不宽容,历史和现实都证明了这一点。

更坏的是,尽管“圣人”周围人士在我们亲爱的参议员们前如何巧妙进言,达赖喇嘛确实是从一个中世纪君主专制体制中出来的人,在这个体制里95%的土地属于喇嘛们和土地贵族。他自己声称“逃了出来”并谴责以前的制度,事实上当时16岁的他是在美国中央情报局操纵和金钱援助之下,并在后者的组织下才流亡并组织起他的流亡团体的。他就这样进入了美国对共产党中国进行意识形态和军事包围的地域政治战略中去了。他还参与了一伙假借宗教之名创立,来对“共产体制”制造不稳定的团体活动:如奥姆真理教(日本),其首领因沙林毒气案而被日本当局判了死刑;或韩国的月亮教,该教由中央情报局给钱,而达赖喇嘛也自己承认拿过“一些捐助”。我们还可以加上法轮功(在法国它曾经因非法行医受到法庭判决),这个组织绝不是如媒体所说的是一个宗教组织,它由一个在美国的中国人指挥,谁给的钱?我让你们去猜吧!拥有着重要的财经手段,它让其信徒去当烈士。

关于“种族灭绝”问题,正如梅朗雄所指出的那样,这本身就是一个丑闻。人们曾经毫无根据的说中国“入侵”杀了120万西藏人,(而当时男性西藏人总共才150万),如果真是这样,就没有西藏人了。就因为出版了这样伪造的数字,达赖喇嘛身边的一个英国人帕特里克弗朗齐辞职并承认说谎。但已经太晚了,这个数字竟一直被人使用。而亲爱的“同志们”,你们知道我们在战后自己殖民地里造成多少死亡吗?至少10万,在印度支那,在马达加斯加,在阿尔及利亚,在摩洛哥或塞内加尔等等。

那么,你们还愿意教训别人吗?

不管你们乐意与否,你们输了。北京奥运会开幕式是那么的辉煌,反映了中国文化的宏大。奥运会的顺利进行让所有人都满意,因为中国人是伟大的人民,好客而和平。你们政界人士要学着去尊重;而你们传媒界人士也要这么做:因为文化就是对他人的开放,就是理解别人,理解他们的文明,他们的历史。而对于这点,你们做得非常非常的不够!


译后记


:译者注意到,最近以来法国的公众舆论也在发生变化。在有关报道达赖到访活动的文章后,网友纷纷发表言论,很多言论印证了高教授的话。例如笔者统计了8月13-14日费加罗报有关达赖活动报道文章后的反应,51篇网友言论中竟有38篇反对达赖和有关支持达赖的议员的。他们的言论甚至比高教授的更加严厉。有的还置疑达赖一伙的频频国际活动,住高级酒店到底谁出钱等等。有兴趣者去看一眼,就知道正如一个网友所说的那样:有时候法国并不代表法国人。


Wells:

In huge Kashmir protest,more than 21 people died last week in the valley after India police fired on protesters.

Where is human right watch in New York? Where is the journalists having no border (LOL)? An assumption of "democratic" country does not excuse the practice of non-democracy and oppression.

The world is much more complicated than those outside interfering forces misrepresent.Let those "free Tibet" moron and East Turkic terrorists go to hell.

TW, USA:

JIAMING:

Good discussion on how Chinese style democracy should be.

On the fanfare nature of election process, I think British elections are more reserved. Brits have no fun any way. Then, comparing to Latino style elections, US elections are boring.

As to the elections in Taiwan, used to be every candidates host "flow water meal", everyone on the street were invited with food prepared by the best cooks in town. Those good old days are gone. Now they can only give things hats, with strict value. But, apparently, some first lady can still accept millions and millions dollar at home. For those leaders, I believe the Saudi style justice is the best: chop off your hands if you steal!

Games galore:

"(Reuters) - All four applicant cities bidding to host the inaugural winter Youth Olympics in 2012 made an International Olympic Committee shortlist, the IOC said on Saturday.

China's Harbin, Austria's Innsbruck, Kuopio in Finland and Norway's Lillehammer will find out in December who will be awarded the Games that will host 1,000 athletes aged 14-18, IOC spokesperson Giselle Davies told reporters.

This new event, which is IOC President Jacques Rogge's brainchild, is designed to generate enthusiasm among the world's teenagers who in recent years have turned away from the Games in greater numbers raising the average age of television viewers.

Singapore will host the first summer edition of the Youth Games in 2010, that will have about 3,200 athletes competing in 26 sports and will cost about $30 million."

http://www.reuters.com/article/olympicsNews/idUSL269553620080802

Anonymous:

BEIJING (AP) — The first outbreak of violence in China's western region of Xinjiang since a pair of high-profile attacks during the Olympics has left two Chinese policemen dead and seven more wounded, authorities and an activist said Thursday.

The conflict in the predominantly Muslim region ignited Wednesday in a village in Jiashi County, but it was not immediately clear what caused it or if any Uighurs were injured.

Activist Dilxat Raxit, spokesman for the Germany-based World Uighur Congress, said witnesses heard "fierce gunfire" but did not give any details.

A woman at the emergency center of the No. 1 People's Hospital in Kashgar, about 60 miles (100 kilometers) west of Jiashi, said seven police officers were being treated at the facility, including one for stab wounds. She refused to give her name as is common among Chinese officials.

Mu'erbiya, an official from Jiashi County's Communist Party propaganda office, said two police officers had died and an investigation was under way. Mu'erbiya, like some Uighurs, uses only one name.

A public security official said eight Uighurs — seven men and one woman — were involved. One man had been captured, but the others were still at large, said the official, who refused to give his name.

The region saw three deadly attacks during and just before the Beijing Olympics. Videos also appeared online threatening the games.

Four days before the Aug. 8 start of the competition, two attackers in Kashgar rammed a truck into a group of police who they then attacked with homemade bombs and knives, killing 16.

On Aug. 10, bombers hit 17 sites — including a police station, government building, bank and shops — in the ancient Silk Road city of Kuqa. Police said 10 assailants, including one woman, were killed along with a security guard and a bystander. State media said another of the attackers, a 15-year-old girl, was injured.

Two days later, knife-wielding assailants jumped from a vehicle and attacked a road checkpoint in Yamanya town, stabbing four guards, three of whom died.

No one has claimed responsibility for any of the incidents, though government officials have suggested terrorism is behind the violence.

China has long said that militants among the region's dominant ethnic Uighurs are leading an Islamic separatist movement in Xinjiang, an oil-and gas-rich region on the border with Afghanistan, Pakistan and six Central Asian nations. The Uighurs are Turkic-speaking Muslims with a language and culture distinct from the majority of Chinese.

But critics accuse Beijing of using claims of terrorism as an excuse to crack down on peaceful pro-independence sentiment and expressions of Uighur identity.

The Uighurs suffered greatly in the 1960s and 1970s when the government — caught up in Marxist revolutionary fervor — viewed religion as well as minority languages and culture as divisive remnants of feudalism that should be abolished.

In the 1980s, the government adopted a more liberal political and cultural policy in Xinjiang but, in the following decade, resorted to a hardline policy after scattered incidents of unrest.

The tough measures continue today, and may fuel support for the Turkestan Islamic Party, a group experts say may have links to al-Qaida in Pakistan, though it is small and has limited capacity to launch attacks beyond its region. The group released the two videos threatening to attack the Olympics.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang on Thursday confirmed reports of the Jiashi incident but did not provide any details. He insisted that there were only sporadic tensions in Xinjiang.

"People of various ethnic groups coexist in harmony and equality, and the situation in Xinjiang is generally good," Qin said at a regular briefing. "This has nothing to do with any alleged persecution or oppression of the Uighur people."

He said that there was a handful of Uighur "terrorist forces attempting to create violence and split China" but that the government and authorities were cracking down on them.

Raxit, the activist, said large-scale arrests were taking place as a result of Wednesday's incident.

"It is part of China's worsening crackdown in the area," he said in a statement. "The international community should prevent the Chinese government from carrying out their systematic crackdown policies on the Uighurs."

BEIJING (AP) — The first outbreak of violence in China's western region of Xinjiang since a pair of high-profile attacks during the Olympics has left two Chinese policemen dead and seven more wounded, authorities and an activist said Thursday.

The conflict in the predominantly Muslim region ignited Wednesday in a village in Jiashi County, but it was not immediately clear what caused it or if any Uighurs were injured.

Activist Dilxat Raxit, spokesman for the Germany-based World Uighur Congress, said witnesses heard "fierce gunfire" but did not give any details.

A woman at the emergency center of the No. 1 People's Hospital in Kashgar, about 60 miles (100 kilometers) west of Jiashi, said seven police officers were being treated at the facility, including one for stab wounds. She refused to give her name as is common among Chinese officials.

Mu'erbiya, an official from Jiashi County's Communist Party propaganda office, said two police officers had died and an investigation was under way. Mu'erbiya, like some Uighurs, uses only one name.

A public security official said eight Uighurs — seven men and one woman — were involved. One man had been captured, but the others were still at large, said the official, who refused to give his name.

The region saw three deadly attacks during and just before the Beijing Olympics. Videos also appeared online threatening the games.

Four days before the Aug. 8 start of the competition, two attackers in Kashgar rammed a truck into a group of police who they then attacked with homemade bombs and knives, killing 16.

On Aug. 10, bombers hit 17 sites — including a police station, government building, bank and shops — in the ancient Silk Road city of Kuqa. Police said 10 assailants, including one woman, were killed along with a security guard and a bystander. State media said another of the attackers, a 15-year-old girl, was injured.

Two days later, knife-wielding assailants jumped from a vehicle and attacked a road checkpoint in Yamanya town, stabbing four guards, three of whom died.

No one has claimed responsibility for any of the incidents, though government officials have suggested terrorism is behind the violence.

China has long said that militants among the region's dominant ethnic Uighurs are leading an Islamic separatist movement in Xinjiang, an oil-and gas-rich region on the border with Afghanistan, Pakistan and six Central Asian nations. The Uighurs are Turkic-speaking Muslims with a language and culture distinct from the majority of Chinese.

But critics accuse Beijing of using claims of terrorism as an excuse to crack down on peaceful pro-independence sentiment and expressions of Uighur identity.

The Uighurs suffered greatly in the 1960s and 1970s when the government — caught up in Marxist revolutionary fervor — viewed religion as well as minority languages and culture as divisive remnants of feudalism that should be abolished.

In the 1980s, the government adopted a more liberal political and cultural policy in Xinjiang but, in the following decade, resorted to a hardline policy after scattered incidents of unrest.

The tough measures continue today, and may fuel support for the Turkestan Islamic Party, a group experts say may have links to al-Qaida in Pakistan, though it is small and has limited capacity to launch attacks beyond its region. The group released the two videos threatening to attack the Olympics.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang on Thursday confirmed reports of the Jiashi incident but did not provide any details. He insisted that there were only sporadic tensions in Xinjiang.

"People of various ethnic groups coexist in harmony and equality, and the situation in Xinjiang is generally good," Qin said at a regular briefing. "This has nothing to do with any alleged persecution or oppression of the Uighur people."

He said that there was a handful of Uighur "terrorist forces attempting to create violence and split China" but that the government and authorities were cracking down on them.

Raxit, the activist, said large-scale arrests were taking place as a result of Wednesday's incident.

"It is part of China's worsening crackdown in the area," he said in a statement. "The international community should prevent the Chinese government from carrying out their systematic crackdown policies on the Uighurs."


BEIJING (AP) — The first outbreak of violence in China's western region of Xinjiang since a pair of high-profile attacks during the Olympics has left two Chinese policemen dead and seven more wounded, authorities and an activist said Thursday.

The conflict in the predominantly Muslim region ignited Wednesday in a village in Jiashi County, but it was not immediately clear what caused it or if any Uighurs were injured.

Activist Dilxat Raxit, spokesman for the Germany-based World Uighur Congress, said witnesses heard "fierce gunfire" but did not give any details.

A woman at the emergency center of the No. 1 People's Hospital in Kashgar, about 60 miles (100 kilometers) west of Jiashi, said seven police officers were being treated at the facility, including one for stab wounds. She refused to give her name as is common among Chinese officials.

Mu'erbiya, an official from Jiashi County's Communist Party propaganda office, said two police officers had died and an investigation was under way. Mu'erbiya, like some Uighurs, uses only one name.

A public security official said eight Uighurs — seven men and one woman — were involved. One man had been captured, but the others were still at large, said the official, who refused to give his name.

The region saw three deadly attacks during and just before the Beijing Olympics. Videos also appeared online threatening the games.

Four days before the Aug. 8 start of the competition, two attackers in Kashgar rammed a truck into a group of police who they then attacked with homemade bombs and knives, killing 16.

On Aug. 10, bombers hit 17 sites — including a police station, government building, bank and shops — in the ancient Silk Road city of Kuqa. Police said 10 assailants, including one woman, were killed along with a security guard and a bystander. State media said another of the attackers, a 15-year-old girl, was injured.

Two days later, knife-wielding assailants jumped from a vehicle and attacked a road checkpoint in Yamanya town, stabbing four guards, three of whom died.

No one has claimed responsibility for any of the incidents, though government officials have suggested terrorism is behind the violence.

China has long said that militants among the region's dominant ethnic Uighurs are leading an Islamic separatist movement in Xinjiang, an oil-and gas-rich region on the border with Afghanistan, Pakistan and six Central Asian nations. The Uighurs are Turkic-speaking Muslims with a language and culture distinct from the majority of Chinese.

But critics accuse Beijing of using claims of terrorism as an excuse to crack down on peaceful pro-independence sentiment and expressions of Uighur identity.

The Uighurs suffered greatly in the 1960s and 1970s when the government — caught up in Marxist revolutionary fervor — viewed religion as well as minority languages and culture as divisive remnants of feudalism that should be abolished.

In the 1980s, the government adopted a more liberal political and cultural policy in Xinjiang but, in the following decade, resorted to a hardline policy after scattered incidents of unrest.

The tough measures continue today, and may fuel support for the Turkestan Islamic Party, a group experts say may have links to al-Qaida in Pakistan, though it is small and has limited capacity to launch attacks beyond its region. The group released the two videos threatening to attack the Olympics.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang on Thursday confirmed reports of the Jiashi incident but did not provide any details. He insisted that there were only sporadic tensions in Xinjiang.

"People of various ethnic groups coexist in harmony and equality, and the situation in Xinjiang is generally good," Qin said at a regular briefing. "This has nothing to do with any alleged persecution or oppression of the Uighur people."

He said that there was a handful of Uighur "terrorist forces attempting to create violence and split China" but that the government and authorities were cracking down on them.

Raxit, the activist, said large-scale arrests were taking place as a result of Wednesday's incident.

"It is part of China's worsening crackdown in the area," he said in a statement. "The international community should prevent the Chinese government from carrying out their systematic crackdown policies on the Uighurs."


BEIJING (AP) — The first outbreak of violence in China's western region of Xinjiang since a pair of high-profile attacks during the Olympics has left two Chinese policemen dead and seven more wounded, authorities and an activist said Thursday.

The conflict in the predominantly Muslim region ignited Wednesday in a village in Jiashi County, but it was not immediately clear what caused it or if any Uighurs were injured.

Activist Dilxat Raxit, spokesman for the Germany-based World Uighur Congress, said witnesses heard "fierce gunfire" but did not give any details.

A woman at the emergency center of the No. 1 People's Hospital in Kashgar, about 60 miles (100 kilometers) west of Jiashi, said seven police officers were being treated at the facility, including one for stab wounds. She refused to give her name as is common among Chinese officials.

Mu'erbiya, an official from Jiashi County's Communist Party propaganda office, said two police officers had died and an investigation was under way. Mu'erbiya, like some Uighurs, uses only one name.

A public security official said eight Uighurs — seven men and one woman — were involved. One man had been captured, but the others were still at large, said the official, who refused to give his name.

The region saw three deadly attacks during and just before the Beijing Olympics. Videos also appeared online threatening the games.

Four days before the Aug. 8 start of the competition, two attackers in Kashgar rammed a truck into a group of police who they then attacked with homemade bombs and knives, killing 16.

On Aug. 10, bombers hit 17 sites — including a police station, government building, bank and shops — in the ancient Silk Road city of Kuqa. Police said 10 assailants, including one woman, were killed along with a security guard and a bystander. State media said another of the attackers, a 15-year-old girl, was injured.

Two days later, knife-wielding assailants jumped from a vehicle and attacked a road checkpoint in Yamanya town, stabbing four guards, three of whom died.

No one has claimed responsibility for any of the incidents, though government officials have suggested terrorism is behind the violence.

China has long said that militants among the region's dominant ethnic Uighurs are leading an Islamic separatist movement in Xinjiang, an oil-and gas-rich region on the border with Afghanistan, Pakistan and six Central Asian nations. The Uighurs are Turkic-speaking Muslims with a language and culture distinct from the majority of Chinese.

But critics accuse Beijing of using claims of terrorism as an excuse to crack down on peaceful pro-independence sentiment and expressions of Uighur identity.

The Uighurs suffered greatly in the 1960s and 1970s when the government — caught up in Marxist revolutionary fervor — viewed religion as well as minority languages and culture as divisive remnants of feudalism that should be abolished.

In the 1980s, the government adopted a more liberal political and cultural policy in Xinjiang but, in the following decade, resorted to a hardline policy after scattered incidents of unrest.

The tough measures continue today, and may fuel support for the Turkestan Islamic Party, a group experts say may have links to al-Qaida in Pakistan, though it is small and has limited capacity to launch attacks beyond its region. The group released the two videos threatening to attack the Olympics.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang on Thursday confirmed reports of the Jiashi incident but did not provide any details. He insisted that there were only sporadic tensions in Xinjiang.

"People of various ethnic groups coexist in harmony and equality, and the situation in Xinjiang is generally good," Qin said at a regular briefing. "This has nothing to do with any alleged persecution or oppression of the Uighur people."

He said that there was a handful of Uighur "terrorist forces attempting to create violence and split China" but that the government and authorities were cracking down on them.

Raxit, the activist, said large-scale arrests were taking place as a result of Wednesday's incident.

"It is part of China's worsening crackdown in the area," he said in a statement. "The international community should prevent the Chinese government from carrying out their systematic crackdown policies on the Uighurs."

2010:

"Some 1,000 miles from the Olympic Games in Beijing, China's manufacturing hub of Guangzhou is preparing for its own moment in the sports spotlight as it gears up to host the Asian Games in 2010. In the works are ultramodern skyscrapers, new stadiums and a 2,000-foot-high television and sightseeing structure that is slated to be nearly double the height of the Eiffel Tower."

http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB121917541789554165.html

Ronald:

This is how westeners decide friends from foe. If you do what they tell you to do, even against your own national interest, you are his friend. If you do what westeners do, you become their enemy. Sadam invaded two countries in his life-time. It is ok to invade Iran because US told him to do it. But when he invaded Kuwait, he became a evil person. Interesting enough. That is why there is nothing China can do to please Westeners. Forget it. My friend.

JiaMing:

I call Western form of democracy "popular democracy" because the leaders are elected by popular votes. It is inefficient and illogical. The leader of a country should not be elected by everybody including the illiterates. It's a farce and that's why Western politicians are better actors than they are leaders. Only lies and pandering will get them elected, not ideas and ability.

China must adopt a more advanced form of democracy where votes of the intellectual elites count at least twice as much as others in a presidential election. Elections should be less of a fanfare and should not cost so much money. The general public should function mainly as the watchdog of the elected government. Removal of a president should take only simple majority (or slightly more) votes of all citizens rather than the extremely difficult process to impeach a president in the US. Impeachment vote should be held every two years and all votes are equal, unlike an election. The general public are good at identifying bad leaders like George Bush after they mess up. If the intellectuals voted a bad president into office, then the general public can remove him if they are not satisfied. This is the check and balance that is missing in Western democracy. The under-educated are majority and they are easily manipulated as well as badly uninformed.

Popular democracy does not work! China can do better than that.

TW, USA:

The Georgia invasion is a game playing between Russia and US to grab eastern European and central Asia countries.

Both US and Russia have lot to lose if this develops into Cold War II. Other countries involved will lose even much more. Korea and Vietnam suffered the most in those cold war days. US lost 80,000+ soldiers in Korea and Vietnam, Russia lost 100,000+ in Afghanistan. But millions were killed in the war zone during and after the war, including Cambodia.

If cold war restarted, the 4,000 death in Iraq will look line a picnic. Yet, I saw it coming.

Cold War:

"(RIA Novosti) - The Russian Foreign Ministry said Thursday that China had expressed its understanding of Russia's decision to recognize Georgia's breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

Russia's deputy foreign minister, Alexei Borodavkin, received Chinese Ambassador Liu Guchang at the latter's request.

"The Chinese side was informed of the political and legal motives behind Russia's decision and expressed an understanding of them," the ministry said in a statement.

Russia's move sparked protests in the West, leading to the freezing of Russia's relations with NATO and consideration by EU countries of imposing sanctions against Moscow.

Internal territorial problems are not uncommon for China. There are several regions with active secessionist groups, including Tibet and Xinjiang, and the issue of Taiwan is never far from the concerns of Chinese leaders."

http://en.rian.ru/world/20080828/116351579.html

TW, USA:

Many posts mention various unfair practices used by China.

One more huge unfair advantage of China is that China does not fight war in other country and thus "shamfully" saved hundreds of billions dollars. Can someone please convince China to invade Iraq too? That will level the playing field.

Anonymous:

VoA - Russia signed a declaration recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia as independent from Georgia.

Russian President Dmitri Medvedev's declaration Tuesday was swiftly condemned by the United States and European powers while China's response was more reserved.

Qin Gang, the Foreign Ministry spokesman, says they understand the complex histories of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. He says China's ongoing position on this issue is that they hope all sides use negotiations and dialogue to resolve the issue.

China, the founder of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, is also concerned about sending the wrong signal to independence supporters in Tibet, Xinjiang, and Taiwan, the self-ruling island that Beijing claims as its own.

http://voanews.com/english/2008-08-28-voa19.cfm

ZEKE:

吹笛闹市中 种花最污处:

"I disagree with you. There are indeed better and worse civilizations. Western civilization is evil. True evil isn't obvious, instead, it seduces you by giving you shiny free gifts first (materialistic culture, "freedom" etc.) then takes away the more important. Look at our world in the past 200 years due to western civilization: both humanity and nature are threatened with total disticntions. And look at the behaviors of westerners today... you tell me! If a civilization is an artist, its people are his works, the rest is only tools. See the charecters of his works, not his tools, to judge the artist.

China is the true superior immortal civilization. We are badly imperfect, but immortal, and uniquely capable of self-renewal. We absorbed Buddhism and changed it, we will do the same to western sciences. Eternal youth is not our goal, it is our nature.

I classify western civilization in an ironic term: "great mediocrity" or "mediocre greatness". I don't deny its greatness in its proper dimension.

Saw hollywood movie "Lord of the Rings"? China is very similar to the Elven civilization (philosophy, environment, medicine, even architectural conceptions and wapontry...). I even suspect that the author had China in mind (though it was probably the idealized Daoist version of China). Western civilization is simliar to that of the dwarf lords: they build grand hall in the mountains. Grand and the most immpressive structure wise but lifeless and rigid."

Man, we are criticizing the arrogance of the West, but you should not go to the other extreme. It is the kind of chauvinism we need to criticize on both sides.

Anonymous:

BEIJING (AP) — The first outbreak of violence in China's western region of Xinjiang since a pair of high-profile attacks during the Olympics has left two Chinese policemen dead and seven more wounded, authorities and an activist said Thursday.

The conflict in the predominantly Muslim region ignited Wednesday in a village in Jiashi County, but it was not immediately clear what caused it or if any Uighurs were injured.

Activist Dilxat Raxit, spokesman for the Germany-based World Uighur Congress, said witnesses heard "fierce gunfire" but did not give any details.

A woman at the emergency center of the No. 1 People's Hospital in Kashgar, about 60 miles (100 kilometers) west of Jiashi, said seven police officers were being treated at the facility, including one for stab wounds. She refused to give her name as is common among Chinese officials.

Mu'erbiya, an official from Jiashi County's Communist Party propaganda office, said two police officers had died and an investigation was under way. Mu'erbiya, like some Uighurs, uses only one name.

A public security official said eight Uighurs — seven men and one woman — were involved. One man had been captured, but the others were still at large, said the official, who refused to give his name.

The region saw three deadly attacks during and just before the Beijing Olympics. Videos also appeared online threatening the games.

Four days before the Aug. 8 start of the competition, two attackers in Kashgar rammed a truck into a group of police who they then attacked with homemade bombs and knives, killing 16.

On Aug. 10, bombers hit 17 sites — including a police station, government building, bank and shops — in the ancient Silk Road city of Kuqa. Police said 10 assailants, including one woman, were killed along with a security guard and a bystander. State media said another of the attackers, a 15-year-old girl, was injured.

Two days later, knife-wielding assailants jumped from a vehicle and attacked a road checkpoint in Yamanya town, stabbing four guards, three of whom died.

No one has claimed responsibility for any of the incidents, though government officials have suggested terrorism is behind the violence.

China has long said that militants among the region's dominant ethnic Uighurs are leading an Islamic separatist movement in Xinjiang, an oil-and gas-rich region on the border with Afghanistan, Pakistan and six Central Asian nations. The Uighurs are Turkic-speaking Muslims with a language and culture distinct from the majority of Chinese.

But critics accuse Beijing of using claims of terrorism as an excuse to crack down on peaceful pro-independence sentiment and expressions of Uighur identity.

The Uighurs suffered greatly in the 1960s and 1970s when the government — caught up in Marxist revolutionary fervor — viewed religion as well as minority languages and culture as divisive remnants of feudalism that should be abolished.

In the 1980s, the government adopted a more liberal political and cultural policy in Xinjiang but, in the following decade, resorted to a hardline policy after scattered incidents of unrest.

The tough measures continue today, and may fuel support for the Turkestan Islamic Party, a group experts say may have links to al-Qaida in Pakistan, though it is small and has limited capacity to launch attacks beyond its region. The group released the two videos threatening to attack the Olympics.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang on Thursday confirmed reports of the Jiashi incident but did not provide any details. He insisted that there were only sporadic tensions in Xinjiang.

"People of various ethnic groups coexist in harmony and equality, and the situation in Xinjiang is generally good," Qin said at a regular briefing. "This has nothing to do with any alleged persecution or oppression of the Uighur people."

He said that there was a handful of Uighur "terrorist forces attempting to create violence and split China" but that the government and authorities were cracking down on them.

Raxit, the activist, said large-scale arrests were taking place as a result of Wednesday's incident.

"It is part of China's worsening crackdown in the area," he said in a statement. "The international community should prevent the Chinese government from carrying out their systematic crackdown policies on the Uighurs."

SAR:

"The recruitment of volunteers for the Hong Kong 2009 East Asian Games (EAG) has begun with the target of recruiting 3,200 volunteers for next December’s multi-sports competition.

Successful candidates will undergo an intensive 32-hour generic and specific training around November 2008. The application deadline for the first phase of recruitment falls on 30 September 2008."

https://volunteer.2009eastasiangames.hk/2009eag/web/news_2.jsp?lang=en&id=1&rand=1219919751712

Ronald:

Democracy is the most over-valued political system in the world. It polarizes one's country and deems the government inefficient in every way possible. (That is what they call check-and-balance) And yet, when the leader wants to go to war, they can always side-step the legislature. Hilter and GW are two good examples. Combining free press and capitalism makes democracy a joke. When pressured by profit, the so-called free press always go where the money is instead of their conscence. Pushing the so-called democracy to every country is a new form of colonialism. Do it my way and I shall control your political destiny. If you don't do my way, I will punish you. Chinese is smart enough to path a new way for their political future. Democracy is a very bad way to have an open and accountable government. The West can complain all they want. China will move in the direction they want at the time they choose. Just look at Eastern Europe. Democracy has turned them either to a yes-man to Washington's interest or disintergated into chaotic basket case. Do you know the largest group of Prostitue working in Macau, is from Ukraine. Independent Tibet or the return of DL without proper arrangement, will start with democratization of China the western way. Civil war will ensure and it will be the end of China as we know it. All this movements are well coordinated to make sure that the West will remain the dominant power without challenge by destroying China. Dreaming on White Man, that you can control the political destiny of China

Chuan:

"The Paralympic flame has been lit in a ceremony at Beijing's Temple of Heaven, kicking off a torch relay across China ahead of the 13th Paralympic Games.

Flame collector Jiang Xintian lit the flame out of a concave, burnished mirror, handing it to Jin Jing, 27, a Paralympic fencer in a wheelchair.

She lit a torch held by Liu Qi, head of the Beijing Olympics organising team.

He passed the torch to Chinese premier Wen Jiabao, who lit a cauldron to start the nine-day torch relay.

About 4,000 disabled athletes from around the world will compete in the Paralympics, which run from 6-17 September..."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/disability_sport/7585755.stm

Anonymous:

I really am starting to miss the Cold War. Back when the Berlin Wall was standing, you knew what was what. Communists vs. capitalists, both sides armed to the teeth with thermonuclear weapons. Duck and cover, boys and girls. Thus through the doctrine of mutually assured destruction, peace was attained. Détente, they called it.

In the early 1970s, this clash of the titans played out on the world stage every four years, at the Olympics. You knew what was what there, too. The Soviets would field a strong, state-subsidized team comprised of the whitest dudes on the planet. The unibrowed East Germans served as a test bed for exotic, dangerous performance-enhancing drugs. Tiny Cuba kicked ass in boxing. No one sweated the backward Chinese. The United States, the last bastion of freedom and democracy, fielded a racially diverse team of amateur athletes, who kicked ass most of the time.

At least, that was the narrative presented to us back in the days when the late Jim McKay anchored Olympic television broadcasts for ABC. The thrill of victory. The agony of defeat. Us vs. them. Keep it simple, stupid. It worked, because the competition was good, and both the Americans and the Soviets understood they were locked in a bitter ideological struggle.

What a difference three decades makes. From the extravagant beginning of open ceremonies in Beijing three weeks ago to the explosive grand finale last Sunday evening, this round of the Olympics was about one thing: China’s arrival on the world stage, and America’s pending exit.

And to think we did it to ourselves. But like Yang Peiyi, the sweet-singing 7-year-old who was replaced with a lip-syncher in the opening ceremonies because Chinese officials deemed she wasn’t attractive enough, the complicity of global financiers and the U.S. government in our economic destruction remains hidden from the public.

Author Pat Choate goes to great lengths to lift this veil in his latest book, Dangerous Business: The Risks of Globalization for America. Choate was Ross Perot’s vice-presidential running mate in 1996 and is deeply familiar with “the giant sucking sound” of jobs flowing to Mexico that the diminutive Texan correctly predicted would occur if Congress approved the North American Free Trade Agreement. As it turns out, the trade policies the United States has agreed to as a member of the World Trade Organization have had a far more devastating effect.

Choate argues that China’s melding of capitalism and communism is nothing more than a return to the days of mercantilism, the dominant economic theory in the West from 1600 to 1800. In that system, countries artificially kept the price of their exports low and used tariffs to price imports higher than comparable goods available domestically. Thus a country could hold an “absolute advantage” in trade, to the exclusion of all other countries.

In the late 19th century, Adam Smith—the classical economist most often cited by today’s rabid “free traders”—and later David Ricardo, developed the theory of comparative advantage, in which one country could trade goods with another country for the mutual benefit of both countries. At its theoretic optimum, any given country in this scheme would maintain an equal balance of trade, because total exports would equal total imports.

Every U.S. president since Ronald Reagan has hammered on the free-trade anvil, culminating during the administrations of George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton with the formation of the World Trade Organization. But someone forgot to clue in the American public on at least one key fact: Free trade only works if the other countries play by the rules, and China is most decidedly not playing by the rules. Never has.

Choate maintains that China holds an absolute advantage in the one area that matters most: price. Chinese workers on average make 18 percent of what U.S. workers earn, and there are virtually no health and safety regulations. China ignores intellectual-property rights and is the world leader in piracy and counterfeiting. Pollution controls are nonexistent. And to top it off, the Communist Chinese government heavily subsidizes key industries such as high technology, offering sweetheart deals to American companies such as Intel that choose to relocate their operations in China.

As demonstrated by our own staggering trade deficit with China—$256 billion in 2007—there is simply no way for American workers to compete in the current scheme. Not that it matters to global corporations with no national allegiances, or their well-placed enablers in both the Republican and Democratic parties.

Unfortunately, Choate doesn’t see an easy way out of this. China isn’t the only country not playing by the rules. Most of the Asian Tigers—Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore—enjoy similar trade advantages, as do members of the European Union. American politicians pay lip service to enforcing the WTO regulations, even as their corporate cronies exploit the total lack of enforcement.

It all made for some mighty fine opening and closing ceremonies at the recently concluded Olympics, where Chinese and U.S. athletes both took home their share of the gold. Typically absent from the podium was the American worker, who once again got the shaft.

Anonymous:

//Violent incidents, almost exclusively focused on black men, are an indication of deep-seated racism in China, writes Clifford Coonan in Beijing.//

White men's wet dream.
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Anonymous:

//Violent incidents, almost exclusively focused on black men, are an indication of deep-seated racism in China, writes Clifford Coonan in Beijing.//

White men's wet dream.

Anonymous:

Violent incidents, almost exclusively focused on black men, are an indication of deep-seated racism in China, writes Clifford Coonan in Beijing.

TRAFFIC WAS restricted, Beijing hung with bunting and a party atmosphere prevailed. Not the Olympics, but the China-Africa forum in 2006, one of the biggest public gatherings in Beijing before the Games, when China invited delegates from dozens of African nations to underline the continent's importance to the world's fastest growing economy.

China has been criticised for ignoring human rights and environmental concerns and for not attaching demands for transparency and accountability to offers of aid, loans and investment to Africa - particularly oil producers Sudan and Angola, which is China's largest supplier of crude oil.

This is less surprising when you consider the strong ideological backdrop to Sino-African relations.

The late premier Zhou Enlai once famously said that racism did not exist in China.

Unlike many western countries, China does not have a black slave-owning tradition and the Communist Party sought to ally thinking on race with thinking on the class struggle, which led to African students coming to China to study in the 1960s and 1970s. Most did not stay long, however.

As in many countries, there is a deep-seated racism in China, which originated in the late 19th century arguments about origins of Chinese people, bloodlines and racial stereotypes that were also common in Europe.

Other sociologists also trace anti-African sentiment to imperial-era thinking about race, as well as the commonly held belief that to be poor is a sign of weakness.

When the Communist Party came to power in 1949, it abolished racism and set about building ties with fellow revolutionaries in African nations to form the "Third World coalition" against what it saw as "white imperialist running dogs".

But tensions have always existed. In July 1979, Chinese students attacked a foreigner hall of residence in Shanghai, complaining that African students were playing loud music.

Subsequent reports blamed the Chinese students for their actions, but said drunken, womanising Africans were also to blame.

Relations between African men and Chinese women, in particular, have caused many disturbances over the years.

They reached their height with the Nanjing protests in December 1988, which saw confrontations between African and Chinese students at the eastern city's Hehai University.

Trouble erupted when two African male students were stopped entering a Christmas party as they were escorting two Chinese women, in contravention of a college rule to stop fraternisation in the dormitories.

A subsequent fight eventually turned into full-scale unrest and chants of "Kill the black devils".

The Nanjing protests were a trigger for the student-led pro-democracy movement in 1989, which was deeply nationalistic in essence. The movement was famously crushed in Beijing on June 4th of that year.

More recently, dozens of black tourists and expatriates, including the son of the Grenadian ambassador, were arrested and, in some cases, beaten up during an anti-drug sting in Beijing's bar area, Sanlitun, last year.

Eye-witnesses said the raid seemed to focus exclusively on black men. The crackdown shocked Beijing's foreign community.

Earlier this year, publicans said they had been told by police not to serve black people in Sanlitun in the run-up to the Olympics.

Despite lingering racist sentiment, the numbers of Africans coming to China is increasing.

There are around 600 African students studying in colleges in Beijing. Africans say they experience little hostile racism, although they do have to put up with an awful lot of prejudicial comments about skin colour and sexual issues. One Ugandan woman friend was offered 200 yuan (€20) by her Chinese plumber if she would have sex with him.

Some attitudes take longer to change than others.

Anonymous:

The first outbreak of violence in China's western region of Xinjiang since a pair of high-profile attacks during the Olympics has left two Chinese policemen dead and seven more wounded, authorities and an activist said Thursday.

The conflict in the predominantly Muslim region ignited Wednesday in a village in Jiashi County, but it was not immediately clear what caused it or if any Uighurs were injured.

Activist Dilxat Raxit, spokesman for the Germany-based World Uighur Congress, said witnesses heard "fierce gunfire" but did not give any details.

A woman at the emergency center of the No. 1 People's Hospital in Kashgar, about 60 miles west of Jiashi, said six police officers were being treated at the facility, including one for stab wounds.

"Two police officers died," said Mu'erbiya, an official from Jiashi County's Communist Party propaganda office, who like some Uighurs uses only one name. "Our investigation is under way."

A public security official said eight Uighurs — seven men and one woman — were involved. One man had been captured but the others were still at large, said the official who refused to give his name.

Anonymous:

"overseas chinese" wtf is it?

吹笛闹市中:

//It is the only elites of the West, including Mr. John Pomfret, who consider themselves protector and representative of the Western civilization. //

Oversea Chinese,

There are hardly "elites" of the west anymore. Looked through books by Huntinton (spell?) or Diamonds etc. on civilizations? Plainly confused fellows! It is funy that you inlcuded Mr. Pomfret in the elites, since you may just be right.

The vulgarity of materialistic culture has poisoned their better minds: their artists have turned fake, their "elites" have turn mediocre.

And their politicians too. See that French president? A clown. Need not to mention Bush.

314:

VoA - Human rights groups in the United States say the Chinese government did not live up to its promises to respect free speech and human rights during the Beijing Games.

Eight Americans, jailed by the Chinese for protesting during the Olympics gathered outside New York's City Hall, included some of the eight Americans who were arrested in Beijing, interrogated at length and then expelled from the country at the same time the games' closing ceremonies were taking place in the Chinese capital.

Tom Grant, a film-maker and a supporter of the group Students for a Free Tibet, says he and his companions were not staging a protest but were leaving a restaurant in Beijing when police arrested them. The young activists said they were held separately, interrogated for eight to 10 hours a day and refused permission to contact anyone.

"We were forced to sign statements that were only written in Chinese, translated only in synopsis in English," he said.

After three days, Grant says he was told that all eight had been sentenced to 10-day jail terms, which would have kept them in custody for nearly a week after the Olympics ended. Soon afterwards, however, they were freed and taken immediately to the airport to be deported. Police seized and kept all of the Americans' cameras, computers and recording equipment.

The activists who spoke to reporters Monday said their main concern was not their own treatment, but the human rights situation of the people of China, including residents of Tibet and the western province of Xinjiang, the scene of recent unrest.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-08-26-voa4.cfm

吹笛闹市中 种花最污处:

Oversea Chinese,

I disagree with you. There are indeed better and worse civilizations. Western civilization is evil. True evil isn't obvious, instead, it seduces you by giving you shiny free gifts first (materialistic culture, "freedom" etc.) then takes away the more important. Look at our world in the past 200 years due to western civilization: both humanity and nature are threatened with total disticntions. And look at the behaviors of westerners today... you tell me! If a civilization is an artist, its people are his works, the rest is only tools. See the charecters of his works, not his tools, to judge the artist.

China is the true superior immortal civilization. We are badly imperfect, but immortal, and uniquely capable of self-renewal. We absorbed Buddhism and changed it, we will do the same to western sciences. Eternal youth is not our goal, it is our nature.

I classify western civilization in an ironic term: "great mediocrity" or "mediocre greatness". I don't deny its greatness in its proper dimension.

Saw hollywood movie "Lord of the Rings"? China is very similar to the Elven civilization (philosophy, environment, medicine, even architectural conceptions and wapontry...). I even suspect that the author had China in mind (though it was probably the idealized Daoist version of China). Western civilization is simliar to that of the dwarf lords: they build grand hall in the mountains. Grand and the most immpressive structure wise but lifeless and rigid.

Mr. Pomfret is a reporter, not an intellectual. As an intellectual, he is a joke. He can't understand what you mean by "civilization"... But we can teach some westerners by making use of this site of his.

overseas chinese:

Mr. Pomfret,
Here is an immutable principle of eternity that you must understand.

NOBODY CAN DOMINATE AND KEEP SUPERIRORITY FOREVER!

Give it up! As hard as it is to comprehend, the Western Civilization will be just another culture in the long history of humanity. You are not superior or inferior in anyway. Anyone who thinks they are better than the rest of the human kind will be very dissappointed. We are all human beings, no less and no more.

Cold War:

President Hu of China "told his Russian counterpart on Wednesday that his country would continue to support the decision to hold 2014 Winter Olympics in Russia's resort city of Sochi.

Some western politicians proposed depriving Russia of the right to host the 2014 Olympics following its involvement in the conflicts between Georgia and its breakaway republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia."

http://en.rian.ru/sports/20080827/116325668.html

overseas chinese:

I must say to the Chinese readers of my posts that not all Westerners have this aggressive attitudes. It is the only elites of the West, including Mr. John Pomfret, who consider themselves protector and representative of the Western civilization. Most Westerners are just like any other common folks in the world who are happy to enjoy the gift of nature and life. The intellectual elites of the Western world are the ones constantly thinking about conflicts and struggles with the rest of the world. They think they are protecting the West, but they are really ruining it through their endless attacks. In their world, it's either death of survival, the most primitive emotions in the animal kingdom. The realm of common good and happiness left them a long time ago.

Citizen of the post-American world:

The West has long been a strong advocate of what it called the “win-win” philosophy: “I win, you win, we all win, therefore everybody is happy in the best possible world” … At least, that is how the rhetoric went.

In recent years though, having noticed that what the win-win philosophy really meant was that only the West kept on win-winning, some countries, among them China, became the world’s strongest advocates of the win-win philosophy. As a result, China is now a win-winner to be reckoned with, something the West finds particularly annoying.

Ancient Chinese military strategy has it that whenever one encircles an enemy, one should provide a few enemy elements with an escape route: seeing a way out, the enemy need not fight to the finish. Saves both face and lives.

Having come out first, at the Beijing Olympics, after win-winning more gold medals by a comfortable margin, China can now let some US elements save face by claiming to have won, marginally, the largest number of medals between them, overall.

Goes to show how much China lacks self-confidence…

One can already see the day come when China, then totally deprived of any self-confidence, yet having risen to be the greatest country in the world, will look upon others claiming to still be IT, with much amusement... and some degree of compassion!

Laozi (Lao Tzu): "I have Three Treasures, which I hold fast and watch over closely. The first is Mercy. The second is Frugality. The third is Not Daring to Be First in the World. Because I am merciful, therefore I can be brave. Because I am frugal, therefore I can be generous. Because I dare not be first, therefore I can be the chief of all vessels." (Tao Teh Ching)

tingdog:

我们应该像李娜那样对这些唐僧一样的美国人大声喊:“shut up!"

LisaSimpson:

There are more than seventy application for protest during Olympic? Are all those people applied for protesting got sentenced? If not, how many got sentenced? The reporting is very spotty, but highly emotionally charged.

This remind me of the reporting of "Chinese invade Tibet in 1950" on some CNN program - the sence and music become dark, the emotion is very strong. But they forget to mention one fact - most maps that published in US in 1940s and before treat Tibet as part of China.

I believed that human right abuse should condemne, Tibetan or anybody should be able to discuss whether Tibet should independent freely in China and protests should allowed withourt prosecution.

What bother me is the falsely dramatized reporting.

Anonymous:

"The media attacks of China by the West show one very fundamental, philosophical difference between the cultures of the East and West. The culture of the East emphasize balance and equilibrium in all aspects from personal health care to politics. In the West, the emphasis is on expanding and maximizing interests. China seeks a stable long-lasting relationship with the rest of the world throughout its history. The West constantly seeks to dominate the rest of the world, both materialistically and psychologically. It is this drive to dominate that pushes the West to send its military to all corners of the world starting from the 17th century and still continues today. In colonial times, Westerners used Christianity to justify their conquests. The supposed goal is to bring the backward non-Christians to the light of God, to save these people from their ignorance. Today the West is using democracy to attack and conquer. The theme is frighteningly similar. The West shall bring democracy to the non-believers, by violent means if necessary. Under the democracy flag, the West established its right to use any means possible to destabilize any parts of the world at any time, wherever its interests lie. Assassination, covert paramilitary operation, funding and training of rebel forces, and of course direct open war are all legitimate options to promote "democracy" and "freedom", just like the way Western colonial powers were spreading Christianity to the world. In order to perform the duty of "saving" the world, the West must first conquer the world, so the rationale goes. The Middle East, China, Latin America, Central Asia, Eastern Europe, they all need to be "freed". Russia was "freed" but it started to grow back its strength so it must be "freed" again. China must be "freed", first by ripping it apart into pieces. Basically you are not free until the West frees you, doesn't matter what you say. The West and the West alone defines "freedom". China is currently the one force that could potentially say no to the West and its definition of freedom, thus changing the Western order for this world. The media attack is only the first phase of "freeing" China. This is the justification phase. Once the West is united under the justification, then the next phase will begin."

This makes sense. The justification is just to keep the average person on board. All that is left is to live the results. Most people on this board are just debating the out come.

吹笛闹市中 translation of the dialogue below:

玛雅王: 解放美洲!赶走白人殖民者!我们虽然所剩无几,但是,起来!为自由而战!

达赖喇嘛: 慢着!不要暴力!

玛雅王: 但他们暴力!

奥巴玛: 没错,没错,刚刚还想打死我呢....

达赖喇嘛: 再说一遍,不要暴力!

玛雅王: 法师!别装模做样!你们人口五十年多了一半,说藏语,穿藏袍,上藏庙.再看看我们,还剩下些什么!西藏不是西藏!美洲才是真正的西藏!天底下能有什么理由让你不支持我?!乡亲们,起来!为自由而战!

达赖喇嘛: 他们的人口屠杀,文化屠杀都已经彻底成功了.再无蛛丝马迹可寻.那些白人会把你当疯子关起来.老兄,放聪明点!

玛雅王: 那些吸血鬼!

达赖喇嘛: 要不要用我的法子....?

玛雅王: 说说看?

达赖喇嘛: 光要求自治,怎样?

玛雅王: 法师神算!不过....我能要求整个美洲都自治吗?!

达赖喇嘛: 这个嘛....


Zeke:

Tony Blair's Article published at WSJ:

We Can Help China Embrace the Future
By TONY BLAIR
August 26, 2008; Page A21

The Beijing Olympic Games were a powerful spectacle, stunning in sight and sound. But the moment that made the biggest impression on me came during an informal visit just before the Games to one of the new Chinese Internet companies, and in conversation with some of the younger Chinese entrepreneurs.

These people, men and women, were smart, sharp, forthright, unafraid to express their views about China and its future. Above all, there was a confidence, an optimism, a lack of the cynical, and a presence of the spirit of get up and go, that reminded me greatly of the U.S. at its best and any country on its way forward.

These people weren't living in fear, but looking forward in hope. And for all the millions still in poverty in China, for all the sweep of issues -- political, social and economic -- still to be addressed, that was the spirit of China during this festival of sport, and that is the spirit that will define its future.

During my 10 years as British leader, I could see the accelerating pace of China's continued emergence as a major power. I gave speeches about China, I understood it analytically. But I did not feel it emotionally and therefore did not fully understand it politically.

Since leaving office I have visited four times and will shortly return again. People ask what is the legacy of these Olympics for China? It is that they mark a new epoch -- an opening up of China that can never be reversed. It also means that ignorance and fear of China will steadily decline as the reality of modern China becomes more apparent.

Power and influence is shifting to the East. In time will come India, too. Some see all this as a threat. I see it as an enormous opportunity. But we have to exercise a lot of imagination and eliminate any vestiges of historic arrogance.
The volunteer force that staged the Games was interested, friendly and helpful. The whole feel of the city was a world away from the China I remember on my first visit 20 years ago. And the people are proud, really and honestly proud, of their country and its progress.

No sensible Chinese person -- including the country's leadership -- doubts there remain issues of human rights and political and religious freedom to be resolved. But neither do the sensible people -- including the most Western-orientated Chinese -- doubt the huge change, for the better, there has been. China is on a journey. It is moving forward quickly. But it knows perfectly well the journey is not complete. Observers should illuminate the distance to go, by all means, but recognize the distance traveled.
The Chinese leadership is understandably preoccupied with internal development. Beijing and Shanghai no more paint for you the complete picture of China than New York and Washington do of the U.S. Understanding the internal challenge is fundamental to understanding China, its politics and its psyche. We in Europe have roughly 5% of our population employed in agriculture. China has almost 60%. Over the coming years it will seek to move hundreds of millions of its people from a rural to an urban economy. Of course India will seek to do the same, and the scale of this transformation will create huge challenges and opportunities in the economy, the environment and politically.

For China, this economic and social transformation has to come with political stability. It is in all our interests that it does. The policy of One China is not a piece of indulgent nationalism. It is an existential issue if China is to hold together in a peaceful and stable manner as it modernizes. This is why Tibet is not simply a religious issue for China but a profoundly political one -- Tibet being roughly a quarter of China's land mass albeit with a small population.
So we should continue to engage in a dialogue over the issues that rightly concern people, but we should conduct it with at least some sensitivity to the way China sees them.

This means that the West needs a strong partnership with China, one that goes deep, not just economically but politically and culturally. The truth is that nothing in the 21st century will work well without China's full engagement. The challenges we face today are global. China is now a major global player. So whether the issue is climate change, Africa, world trade or the myriad of security questions, we need China to be constructive; we need it to be using its power in partnership with us. None of this means we shouldn't continue to raise the issues of human rights, religious freedoms and democratic reforms as European and American leaders have done in recent weeks.

It is possible to hyperbolize about the rise of China. For example, Europe's economies are still major and combined outreach those of China and India combined. But, as the Olympics and its medal tables show, it is not going to stay that way. This is a historic moment of change. Fast forward 10 years and everyone will know it.
For centuries, the power has resided in the West, with various European powers including the British Empire and then, in the 20th century, the U.S. Now we will have to come to terms with a world in which the power is shared with the Far East. I wonder if we quite understand what that means, we whose culture (not just our politics and economies) has dominated for so long. It will be a rather strange, possibly unnerving experience. Personally, I think it will be incredibly enriching. New experiences; new ways of thinking liberate creative energy. But in any event, it will be a fact we have to come to terms with. For the next U.S. president, this will be or should be at the very top of the agenda, and as a result of the strength of the Sino-U.S. relationship under President Bush, there is a sound platform to build upon.

The Olympics is now the biggest sporting event in the world, and because of the popularity of sport it is therefore one of the events that makes a genuine impact on real people. These Games have given people a glimpse of modern China in a way that no amount of political speeches could do.
London 2012 gives Britain a tremendous chance to explore some of these changes and explain to the East what the modern West is about. One thing is for certain: Hosting the Olympics is now a fantastic opportunity for any nation. My thoughts after the Beijing Games are that we shouldn't try to emulate the wonder of the opening ceremony. It was the spectacular to end all spectaculars and probably can never be bettered. We should instead do something different, drawing maybe on the ideals and spirit of the Olympic movement. We should do it our way, like they did it theirs. And we should learn from and respect each other. That is the way of the 21st century.

Mr. Blair, former prime minister of Great Britain, is teaching a course on faith and globalization at the Yale Schools of Management and Divinity.

吹笛闹市中 overhearing a dialogue:

(Final version. The two below can be deletted.)

Mayan King: Free America from white colonists! America is the real Tibet! My people! Though few in number today, but, Rise! Fight for freedom!!

Dalai Lama: Hold it! Hold it... Violence is no good.

Mayan King: But they are violent!

Obama: Yes, yes...They just tried to kill me...

Dalai Lama: Violence is no good! I repeat!

Mayan King: Monk! You hypocrite! Your people doubled in population in the past 50 years, speaking your own language, wearing your own clothes, going to your own temples. Look at mine! We are hardly existent today! Tibet is no Tibet! America is the true Tibet! How on earth I do not have your supports?!Rise! My people! Fight for our freedom!!

Dalai Lama: Since the genocides and cultural genocides have been done successfully and completely, no one can see their traces anymore. And the white men can say that you are mad and lock you up in an asylum. Wise up, my friend!

Mayan King: Those life sucking whites!!

Dalai Lama: Perhaps you could do what I do...?

Mayan King: And what is that?

Dalai Lama: You could claim autonomy only?

Mayan King: Genius monk you are! But...how can the WHOLE of America be an autonomy?

Dalai Lama: ... ...

Overseas Chinese:

The media attacks of China by the West show one very fundamental, philosophical difference between the cultures of the East and West. The culture of the East emphasize balance and equilibrium in all aspects from personal health care to politics. In the West, the emphasis is on expanding and maximizing interests. China seeks a stable long-lasting relationship with the rest of the world throughout its history. The West constantly seeks to dominate the rest of the world, both materialistically and psychologically. It is this drive to dominate that pushes the West to send its military to all corners of the world starting from the 17th century and still continues today. In colonial times, Westerners used Christianity to justify their conquests. The supposed goal is to bring the backward non-Christians to the light of God, to save these people from their ignorance. Today the West is using democracy to attack and conquer. The theme is frighteningly similar. The West shall bring democracy to the non-believers, by violent means if necessary. Under the democracy flag, the West established its right to use any means possible to destabilize any parts of the world at any time, wherever its interests lie. Assassination, covert paramilitary operation, funding and training of rebel forces, and of course direct open war are all legitimate options to promote "democracy" and "freedom", just like the way Western colonial powers were spreading Christianity to the world. In order to perform the duty of "saving" the world, the West must first conquer the world, so the rationale goes. The Middle East, China, Latin America, Central Asia, Eastern Europe, they all need to be "freed". Russia was "freed" but it started to grow back its strength so it must be "freed" again. China must be "freed", first by ripping it apart into pieces. Basically you are not free until the West frees you, doesn't matter what you say. The West and the West alone defines "freedom". China is currently the one force that could potentially say no to the West and its definition of freedom, thus changing the Western order for this world. The media attack is only the first phase of "freeing" China. This is the justification phase. Once the West is united under the justification, then the next phase will begin.

吹笛闹市中 overhearing a dialogue:

Mayan King: Free America from white colonists! America is the real Tibet! My people! Though few in number after the white men's successful genocides, but, Rise! Fight for freedom!!

Dalai Lama: Hold it! Hold it... Violence is no good.

Mayan King: Monk! You hypocrite! Your people doubled in population in the past 50 years, speaking your own language, wearing your own clothes, going to your own temples. Look at mine! We are hardly existent! Tibet is no Tibet! America is the true Tibet! How on earth I do not have your supports?!Rise! My people! Fight for our freedom!!

Dalai Lama: Since the genocides and cultural genocides have been done successfully and completely, no one can see their traces anymore. And the white men can say that you are a mad man and put you in a mental hospital. Wise up!!

Mayan King: Those life sucking whites!!

Dalai Lama: Perhaps you could do what I do...?

Mayan King: And what is that?

Dalai Lama: You could claim autonomy only?

Mayan King: Genius monk you are! But...how can the WHOLE of America be an autonomy?

Dalai Lama: ... ...

吹笛闹市中 overhearing a dialogue:

Mayan King: Free America from white colonists! America is the real Tibet! My people! Though few in number after the white men's successful genocides, but, Rise! Fight for freedom!!

Dalai Lama: Hold it! Hold it... Violence is no good.

Mayan King: Monk! You hypocrite! Your people doubled in population in the past 50 years, speaking your own language, wearing your own clothes, going to your own temples. Look at mine! We are hardly existent! Tibet is no Tibet! America is the true Tibet! How on earth I do not have your supports?!Rise! My people! Fight for our freedom!!

Dalai Lama: Since the genocides and cultural genocides have been done successfully and completely, no one can see their traces anymore. And the white men can say that you are a mad man and put you in a mental hospital. Wise up!!

Mayan King: Those life sucking whites!!

Dalai Lama: Perhaps you could do what I do...?

Mayan King: And what is that?

Dalai Lama: You could claim autonomy only?

Mayan King: Genius monk you are! But...how can the WHOLE of America be an autonomy?

Dalai Lama: ... ...

Mayan King 吹笛闹市中:

Free America from white colonists!

White men shut up and go home!!

吹笛闹市中:


FREE AMERICA from life sucking white men!!

And canada, Australia!!

吹笛闹市中:

//FREE TIBET from life sucking Chinese//

The whole USA is the real Tibet taken from native Americans by life sucking white men.

Why don't you free America first?

FREE AMERICA from life sucking white men!!

Wells:

409:

FREE TIBET!! from the life sucking chinese
===========================

Free to bet!You loser.Your dirty course has been and is going to be hopeless.Sorry,you are plain loser,who can count on you?

China Owns Xinjiang:

Anonymous:
The Uyghur American Association (UAA) believes that recent comments made by Wang Lequan signal an upcoming period of fierce repression against Uyghurs across the People's Republic of China (PRC), particularly in East Turkestan, also known as the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR).
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It's about time! Go for it!

China Owns Tibet:

To All You "Free Tibet" People, COME AND GET IT!

Tim Tribbiani:

I think everyone should remember the sign of Beijing Olympic Games,“one world,one dream”.
We are family in the world!

Zeke:

ANONYMOUS wrote: "Only stupid dumb people like you will not see what is realy on in East Turkestan. Aside that East Turkestan has no islamic terrorists. East Turkestan people want chinese to go home and indepence, not a islamistic state like in Saudi Arabia. You, an idiot should know it already. Suicide bombings are very present everywhere. Even chinese nazi and comunists used suicide atacks with young people against japanese and in own citizen war. Wana know how many virgins they wanted to get that way.. Against, you failed to make a point you stupid loser."

So the attack on Isreal and US soldiers are justified? You Moron and Hypocrite! Everyone can see through your kind of "Free Tibet" activist now. You support terrorist attack on Chinese because your agenda is anti-China, Not you care about "Human Right". You called the attack on London subway terrorist attack, but attack on buses in china righteous? For the West, you are supporting and nurturing a snake, which might bite back at you later, just as the CIA once supported Bin Ladin.

409:

FREE TIBET!! from the life sucking chinese

Anonymous:

什么乱七八糟的翻译!

by butthurt loser

Anonymous:

Correct translation:
But I sometimes feel that westerners (white people) are very evil. With countless blood debts but still un-embbarrassed, and feel OK to accuse others. Yet, isn't being able to feel embarrassment what differs men from beasts? But sometimes I encount white people who are innocent too. Perhaps, though there are more bad people but there isn't a shortage of good people as well.

by idiot.


吹笛闹市中:

什么乱七八糟的翻译!

Anonymous:

但我有时又觉得西方人(白人)非常之邪恶.血债累累,不知羞耻,还能指责别人.不知羞耻不就跟畜生没有区别?但有时却会碰到很单纯的西方人.也许是坏人占大多数,但也不缺好人.


// But I sometimes feel that Westerners (white) is very evil. Countless blood debts, shameless, but also accusing others. Shameless not told Chusheng no difference »but sometimes they will encounter very simple Westerners. Might be bad for Most, but not indispensable man. //

Incorrect translation.

Correct translation:
But I sometimes feel that westerners (white people) are very evil. With countless blood debts but still un-embbarrassed, and feel OK to accuse others. Yet, isn't being able to feel embarrassment what differs men from beasts? But sometimes I encount white people who are innocent too. Perhaps, though there are more bad people but there isn't a shortage of good people as well.

by me.


translating some lebanese troll who used google language tools..:

白人里好人单纯,坏人冷酷而虚伪.中国坏人则多阴谋诡计.但中国人里好人多,坏人少.白人则好人少,坏人多.

另外,中国坏人往往知道自己坏.白人坏人往往以为自己是好人


Pure white, good guys, bad guys and callous hypocrisy. Villains were mostly Chinese machinations. However, the Chinese people, the good guys, bad guys less. Whites are less good, more bad guys.

In addition, the Chinese bad guys are often aware of their bad. Whites tend to think that they are bad guys the good guys.

Anonymous:

The Uyghur American Association (UAA) believes that recent comments made by Wang Lequan signal an upcoming period of fierce repression against Uyghurs across the People's Republic of China (PRC), particularly in East Turkestan, also known as the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR).

In a speech, Mr. Wang, the Communist Party Secretary of the XUAR, stated that Chinese government authorities face a "life or death" struggle to quell Uyghur unrest. This indicates an impending campaign of repression against Uyghurs more severe than traditional "Strike Hard" campaigns, which are used by Chinese officials in East Turkestan to stifle political dissent.

Events in the lead up to and during the Olympics evidence an intensification of repression by Chinese government authorities, which UAA fears will worsen in the post-Olympics period after Mr. Wang's comments. The Uyghur Human Rights Project (UHRP) has heard reliable reports that all non-resident Uyghurs in the city of Korla have been detained, and have been told that they will be released after the Beijing Olympics are over. The detention of non-resident Uyghurs in Korla began following violent attacks that took place in Kucha on August 10.

This measure is part of an on-going campaign of detentions, which has seen thousands of Uyghurs arrested in Olympics-related security sweeps of Kashgar, Ghulja, Artush and other cities. UHRP has documented reports stating that more than 100 Uyghurs have been arrested in Kashgar following an attack on paramilitary police in the city on August 4. In addition, at least 90 Uyghurs have reportedly been arrested in and near Kucha following the Kucha attacks, including several women. Uyghurs in Kucha were reportedly prevented from leaving their homes, and many arrests of Uyghurs were reported in nearby counties and towns. These reports also describe the presence of armed vehicles and the People's Armed Police patrolling the streets of Kucha and Kashgar. Associated Press stated that "authorities declared virtual martial law" in Kucha after the attacks.

The crackdown on Uyghurs has spread beyond East Turkestan to areas of the PRC outside the region. The Bloomberg News Service states that Uyghur residents of Beijing are complaining of “being pressured to leave” the city, while UPI reports that Uyghur pilots in China’s aviation fleet were grounded in a security measure aimed at preempting terrorist attacks. At present, Uyghurs do not feel secure anywhere in China, including East Turkestan, as they are seen as political suspects by the PRC authorities.

Willy Lam, Senior Fellow at the Jamestown Foundation, in an article published on August 15, says that diplomatic sources in Beijing are anticipating that "the enhanced military action would begin immediately after the Olympics end on the 24th, when the world's attention will no longer be focused on China's human rights record." Mr. Lam adds that local authorities are being threatened with immediate demotion or firing to "ensure that areas under their jurisdiction be free of underground separatist or extremist bases," leaving the possibility that officials will conduct repressive campaigns against Uyghurs to save their livelihoods.

In an August 22 article published in the Wall Street Journal Asia, Mr. Lam adds "that Beijing has ruled out any compromise with underground Uighur groups, many of which are merely seeking autonomous rights guaranteed by the Chinese Constitution, not outright independence. Instead, President Hu had in early summer ordered more People's Liberation Army and People's Armed Police reinforcements into Xinjiang and Tibet."

In a statement, Ms. Rebiya Kadeer, leader of the Uyghur freedom movement, said "I am extremely concerned that the Chinese government will launch a 'life and death struggle' on the Uyghur people once the international community’s focus has shifted from China. Such a move will further destabilize the region and is not in the best interest of China. I urge restraint on the part of the Chinese government to not use the recent incidents in East Turkestan to persecute Uyghurs. I also urge the international community to speak out on behalf of Uyghurs and to prevent imminent and systematic human rights abuses against a peaceful people."

Political Consultative Committee head Zhu Hailun stated at a televised news conference Monday that government forces must "Strike Hard" at the three evil forces [terrorism, separatism, and extremism], and mobilize the masses to guard against these forces at all levels of society. Chinese government authorities appear to be reviving old terminology while also introducing even harsher methods than in the past, such as the introduction of unprecedented military reinforcements into East Turkestan and the imposition of virtual martial law. Traditionally, "Strike Hard" campaigns in East Turkestan are known to exacerbate Chinese government authorities’ tendency to over-state the seriousness of a perceived crime. "Strike Hard" campaigns are generally typified by arbitrary punishments, accelerated judicial procedures and an increased use of the death penalty. The Chinese government in East Turkestan is liable to regard any form of opposition as a "splittist" or even a "terrorist" act; this tendency is even more evident during "Strike Hard" campaigns.

吹笛闹市中:

白人里好人单纯,坏人冷酷而虚伪.中国坏人则多阴谋诡计.但中国人里好人多,坏人少.白人则好人少,坏人多.

另外,中国坏人往往知道自己坏.白人坏人往往以为自己是好人.

Anonymous:


但我有时又觉得西方人(白人)非常之邪恶.血债累累,不知羞耻,还能指责别人.不知羞耻不就跟畜生没有区别?但有时却会碰到很单纯的西方人.也许是坏人占大多数,但也不缺好人.


But I sometimes feel that Westerners (white) is very evil. Countless blood debts, shameless, but also accusing others. Shameless not told Chusheng no difference »but sometimes they will encounter very simple Westerners. Might be bad for Most, but not indispensable man.

Proud chinese suicide:

Yang Jia, a 28-year-old unemployed man from Beijing, appeared in court in Shanghai charged with an alleged attack against the police on July 1, the anniversary of the founding of the Chinese Communist Party.

Mr Yang is said to have thrown molotov cocktails into a police station in Zhabei, a northern suburb of the city, before entering the building and attacking a group of unarmed officers with a knife. He was arrested at the scene.

However, instead of condemnation, he has received widespread approval from Chinese internet users, or netizens, for his apparent act of defiance.

He has become a symbol for the growing number of people who are attacking Chinese police in protest at the brutality of the state.

Mr Yang has even been compared to Wu Song, one of the greatest heroes in Chinese literature, who killed a tiger with his bare hands.

One message left on his MySpace page said: "You have done what most people want to do, but do not have enough courage to do".

The prosecution said Mr Yang had acted out of "revenge" after he was caught by police riding an unlicensed bicycle last October and interrogated. He later sued the Shanghai police for 10,000 yuan (£803) for psychological damage, but his claim was rejected.

Mr Yang is rumoured to have been badly beaten and maimed by police.

One blogger, Zi Bingyue, wrote: "Yang Jia is not bad. He has no previous criminal record. On the contrary, he has a strong sense of the law. He gave seats to older people on the bus and carried luggage for weak travellers."

His father, Yang Fu, said his son must "have been greatly wronged" and added that he hoped Mr Yang's almost inevitable death sentence would help spur the Chinese legal system to change in the future.

Another blogger, Qing Feng, wrote that Mr Yang had been ground down by the reality of being unemployed in China. "He would have self-destructed one way or another since he has lost hope. He has no job, no degree, no income, no background, no relationship or normal family," he said.

Since Mr Yang's arrest, his lawyers have been uncontactable. An attempt by the Telegraph to trace them to a second-floor office in north Shanghai was met with a simple note saying that the office would be closed for the foreseeable future.

In addition, blogs mentioning Mr Yang have been deleted and bloggers have been told by websites that sensitive articles will be blocked.

吹笛闹市中:

但我有时又觉得西方人(白人)非常之邪恶.血债累累,不知羞耻,还能指责别人.不知羞耻不就跟畜生没有区别?但有时却会碰到很单纯的西方人.也许是坏人占大多数,但也不缺好人.

Anonymous:

Only crazy or mentally unstable people like you appreciate such terrorists and attacks. It is the same kind of islamic terrorists and tactics using suicide bombers (including young women),as happened in Isreal and Iraq. So they are called terrorists when they attacked US or Isreal soldiers and called separatists when they attacked Chinese? You don't even know Islamic suicide bomber are promised 70 brides in haven? What a idiot!!!!!--------


Only stupid dumb people like you will not see what is realy on in East Turkestan. Aside that East Turkestan has no islamic terrorists. East Turkestan people want chinese to go home and indepence, not a islamistic state like in Saudi Arabia. You, an idiot should know it already. Suicide bombings are very present everywhere. Even chinese nazi and comunists used suicide atacks with young people against japanese and in own citizen war. Wana know how many virgins they wanted to get that way.. Against, you failed to make a point you stupid loser.

Anonymous:

---Zeke:
ANONYMOUS worte: "East Turkestan is a country no mater if someone recognize is. "

HA HA, You are really retarded. It is like someone claim: "I am Budda or God no matter if someone recognize me".-------------


Nope Idiot. East Turkestan is there nomater what chinese nazis do say.

吹笛闹市中:

但不要紧.
花要种在最肮脏的地方.
甘地也是这样帮助英国人的.

吹笛闹市中:

否则没法解释.

吹笛闹市中:

Pomfret是坏人.

chinationreport:

What's everyone's prediction on next US president's China policy?
http://blog.chinationreport.com/2008/08/26/obama-china/

chinationreport:

Wei,
Agree.
Recession can be good for China-US relation but can also be bad. US needs China. The White House knows it. But ordinary people don't. We have an election year. It is very tempting to use China as a scapegoat for the bad economy. Lost jobs, housing bubble, oil price, food price, pollution... you name it. All caused by China. While this might be just campaign rethoric, ordinary people might really start to hate China for whatever reason... That's the real danger.
It is important for China and Chinese overseas to perform a role of bridging the gap of understandings and don't allow ourselves, neighbors... fall into the trap of Western media machine. http://www.chinationreport.com/

wei:

The answer: just look at who are gloating and who look like sour grape nuts now!
As for the long term effect, I think people put too much stock on the biggest party of 2008. Like all the big parties, people had fun and probably wasted lots of money. But that's it. What is going to affect China the most after the Games are recessions in US and Europe, and maybe the war in Georgie!

chinationreport:

My friend James Shen wrote a piece about Western media staging 'Blemishing China Marathon'. After some heavy debates, he wrote another piece to advise both Chinese and Americans how to deal with emotions and move forward. They are worth reading. http://www.chinationreport.com/ChinaBashingMarathon.html

This is also an interesting one which addresses Western media biase: More outrage about gymnasts age than CIA fake intelligence on Iraq (Google search confirms)http://www.chinationreport.com/AgePrewarintelligence.html

Don't read them both if you have high blood pressure.

Something beautiful for all of you: The Flame of Love by Domingo and Song Zuying. Here I collected Song Zuying's story, pictures and the lyric and video of this most memorable piece from the closing ceremony. I can't believe that it is over. http://www.chinationreport.com/SongZuYing.html

Zeke:

ANONYMOUS worte: "East Turkestan is a country no mater if someone recognize is. "

HA HA, You are really retarded. It is like someone claim: "I am Budda or God no matter if someone recognize me".

Zeke:

ANONYMOUS wrote: "There are several bombing against chinese goverment and chinese ocupants in East Turkestan. you must be biggest idiot in the world if you cant see it."

Only crazy or mentally unstable people like you appreciate such terrorists and attacks. It is the same kind of islamic terrorists and tactics using suicide bombers (including young women),as happened in Isreal and Iraq. So they are called terrorists when they attacked US or Isreal soldiers and called separatists when they attacked Chinese? You don't even know Islamic suicide bomber are promised 70 brides in haven? What a idiot!!!!!

Anonymous:

Losers:

Steven Spielberg (quite as an adviser to the ceremonies. Zhang Yimao must be so glad)

Mia Farrow (Should do a Team Iraq now that UK will host the games)

joey Cheeks (Follow Mia Farrow)

Overseas Tibet Monks (Maybe less funding from the congress)

Clownish torch relay protesters (thanks for the advertisement, though, the TV ratings are great)

And last but not least, the western China-bashing media. Only BBC managed to put two people on electric poles for a banner in Beijing. You cheated the public. But people will know eventually.

By the way, the most annoying person during the olympics is Bela Karoly on NBC. I think he is at the forefront of embarrassing the American people.

Anonymous:

The U.S. needs to worry more about California, Texas, Arizona than about Tibet and a semi-mideastern race called Ulgurs. In 2050, These states will become part of Mexico

Anonymous:

The 27 member states of the EU when counted together won 87 gold medals at the Beijing Olympics, dwarfing the individual tallies of China with 51 and the US with 36, as the games closed on Sunday (24 August).

Anonymous:


Bla, Bla, Bla. The facts are: 1. No country in the world recognizes "East Turkestan". 2. The people promoting it are terrorists. There are several bombing targeting innocent Chinese.
---------------------------------------------------------

WHAT ARE YOU TALING ABOUT?

East Turkestan is a country no mater if someone recognize is. The people promoting it are not terorists they are separatists and people who lives in East Turkestan.

There are several bombing against chinese goverment and chinese ocupants in East Turkestan. you must be biggest idiot in the world if you cant see it.

------------------------------------------

----So you can to straight to hell or "Heaven with 70 brides" with them.---

Where have you got this crap? from chinese press?

sowhataboutusa:

"The Chinese Communist Party can focus the attention of its people and its security services for limited periods of time, say the two weeks of the Olympics."

CCP could focus its people and resources at times other than the Olympics, since that's easier to do with communism. But, tell us, John Pomfret, just what positive national goal has the U.S. government been able to guide its people and resources towards, for the last eight years under the leadership of George W. Bush? And, if you cite the U.S. military invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan as an example, then that won't fly. As for what happens to the post-Olympics China, it's really anybody's guess and depends on too many factors within and outside China.

shura:

我不想用英语来回复
因为我想多每个来这的中国人说
我们要努力工作
强大自己的国家

在我们的实力足够强大的时候
这种诽谤和敌意会一直伴随的着我们
我们要清醒
民主我们要去追求 但绝不是让西方人拿着民主的棒子把我们的国家砸碎
我们谴责政府的腐败现象 但首先要做好自己
来看英文网站很多时间了
给我印象很有意思
美国的媒体也会删除帖子
YOUTUBE也会删除格鲁吉亚人赞同俄罗斯军事行动的现场访谈

Anonymous:

奥运会让西方人跳入自己设下的陷阱.

西方人就是蠢.

藏头诗一首:

Mr. Pomfret

你来我往当知止
是非颠倒误后人
头顶三尺神明在
猪狗尚知爱同群
?


藏头诗一首:

Mr. Pomfret

你来我往当知止
是非颠倒误后人
头顶三尺神明在
猪狗尚知爱同群
?


Anonymous:

To Pomfret: Just to remind Pomfret that,today in DENVER, Denver authorities were busy early Tuesday, suppressing freedom of expression, freedom of speech, freedom of demonstration, freedom of dissent while processing about 100 people who were arrested when police officers and protesters clashed about a mile from the site of the Democratic National Convention.

jerry rubin:

NO! NO!

TW, USA:

FORBIDDEN:

The more I read comments like yours, I more I feel it's all matters of perspective. Let me use some example.

Let's say we ask a question of whether you like US. The answet can be Yes. I like US. Yet another one may respond that "American Blackwater contractors are murdering people, how could you like those criminals?" And Blackwater contractors are not only government, they are supergovernment and can kill people and get away with anything. Is this not the case?

Some people focus on religious freedom. Then if I focus on how muslims are treated in US, I can drill on till the end of the world.

Not to mention the fact that Chinese Americans students need higher SAT score than other races to get into top US colleges. Arn't these real issues?

You stop a Chinese in China and ask him or her: Are you better off now than 10 years ago? You know the answer. Of course some will insist that must be the result of brainwash.

You ask the same question to an American Muslim, or anyone, you probably know the variety of answers too.

The observation you use are probably true. The question is how to put the perspective. You can either feel the sky is falling, but someone just feel it's wonderful. Of course, you can insist that anyone hold different from you must be brainwashed too. Just as someone may feel the sameway toward you.

It's a free world.

M Bear:

Let me try to answer this based on what I read:

Sally Jenkins: "The end of modern Olympics". Total failure!

Thomas Boswell: "People too polite"; "Openning ceremony too perfect for a democracy"; "Too much security". Failure!

John Pomfret: It is a success before it is a failure. Or is it a failure before it is a success? (Hey, I am the China expert here. Got to be more nuanced than average joe).

China protesters: Total failure!

Average US citizens: Enjoyed the ceremonies and the games, but hated the losing.

Average Chinese citizens: Totally happy with the games.

Forbidden city:

'Many of the fireworks were just light shows. You spent a lot of time in China wondering: What is real? What is fake? And how will this place look when all the visitors leave?

I feel bad for Qin Shuai that he has to live in a place that does not allow him to express himself freely. But Qin, like nearly everyone I encountered, seems unfailingly happy. The signs around Tiananmen Square read "the police reminds you to smile," but if their smiling faces were another facade put out for visitors, it was one long and uninterrupted performance...'

http://blog.nj.com/olympics_main/2008/08/in_unforgettable_olympics_chin/print.html

409:

FREE TIBET!!

thmak:

Here are my counter-points to Boswell's article: People from carless country wonder why they are arrested in USA for jay-walking when they cross streets when there are no cars on the streets and there are red light. It is true that there are empty buses driving around to make sure buses must be on scheduled and acoutable on where they are, otherwise where are the buses? Under the demanding and tedious work schedule, one should be gratefull not to have to wait for a long time for the bus to fillup or next long departure time in order to get to the next location. Since he was at the Olympic, how can Boswell said that the Olympic was sparsely attended when 91000 filled the Nest. If Boswell said that the Olympic venue is a quasi-military compound, then President Bush would be grossly disgraced for attending. Boswell said that everyone can say only "Hello". Does he knows that not everyone in USA know how to say even "Hello" in Chinese? It is true that "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.". That is how Americans were bogged down in the middle East. Authoritarian regime can act decisively in bad times whereas a capitlist regime just let bad goes to worse without any action, just like the recent, economic downturn, subprime meltdown and the coming bail-out of the USA automobile industries. No one can predict the future. I hope you understand.

Anonymous:

Here are my counter-points to Boswell's article:People from carless country wonder why they are arrested in USA for jay-walking when they cross streets when there are no cars on the streets and there are red light. It is true that there are empty buses driving around to make sure buses must be on scheduled and acoutable on where they are, otherwise where are the buses? Under the demanding and tedious work schedule, one should be gratefull not to have to wait for a long time for the bus to fillup or next long departure time in order to get to the next location. Since he was at the Olympic, how can Boswell said that the Olympic was sparsely attended when 91000 filled the Nest. If Boswell said that the Olympic venue is a quasi-military compound, then President Bush would be grossly disgraced for attending. Boswell said that everyone can say only "Hello". Does he knows that not everyone in USA know how to say even "Hello" in Chinese? It is true that "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.". That is how Americans were bogged down in the middle East. Authoritarian regime can act decisively in bad times whereas a capitlist regime just let bad goes to worse without any action, just like the recent, economic downturn, subprime meltdown and the coming bail-out of the USA automobile industries. I hope you understand.

Prison games:

"A Chinese human rights activist detained by police during the Olympic Games said Tuesday that she had returned to Beijing and that her dissident husband was being mistreated in prison.

Zeng Jinyan was one of several activists taken away during the games as part of Beijing's efforts to clear the city of dissent while it played host to the competition. It is a common move by authorities before and during sensitive periods to curb potential criticism or protests."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gGtTrBpkUffPzYAENMTtc8HAqaBgD92PT2U00

"One of China's longest-held political prisoners was released on Tuesday after serving 16 years of a 20-year jail sentence for setting up a political party in defiance of a ban by ruling Communist authorities.
Hu Shigen, 53, a former lecturer at the Beijing Languages Institute, was greeted by family members when he emerged from a Beijing prison, his brother told Reuters."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7752767

Elizabeth:

// JOANN wrote: When I watch the two teens crazing Michael Phelps in AT&T ad, I am so filled with pride //

Wish my Billy could do the same

Zeke:

ANONYMOUS wrote:

"FOR IDIOTS who think they can run away by ignoring facts:

In political geography and international politics, a country is a political division of a geographical entity. Frequently, a sovereign territory, the term is most commonly associated with the notions of both state and nation, and also with government.

In common usage, the term is used casually in the sense of both nations and states. Definitions may vary. It is sometimes used to refer to both states and some other political entities, while in some occasions it refers only to states. It is not uncommon for general information or statistical publications to adopt the wider definition for purposes such as illustration and comparison.

There are non-sovereign territories (subnational entities, another form of political division or administrative division within a larger nation-state) which constitute cohesive geographical entities, some of which are former states, but which are not presently sovereign states. Some are commonly designated as countries (e.g. England, Scotland and Wales), while others are not (e.g., Cornwall, Brittany and Texas). The degree of autonomy and local government varies widely. Some are possessions of states, as several states have overseas dependencies (e.g., the British Virgin Islands, Netherlands Antilles, and American Samoa), with territory and citizenry separate from their own. Such dependent territories are sometimes listed together with states on lists of countries"


Bla, Bla, Bla. The facts are: 1. No country in the world recognizes "East Turkestan". 2. The people promoting it are terrorists. There are several bombing targeting innocent Chinese. So you can to straight to hell or "Heaven with 70 brides" with them.

JoAnn:

When I watch the two teens crazing Michael Phelps in AT&T ad, I am so filled with pride

Go Michael...

Wells:

To Shawn:

Shawn,this Anonymous is a "Free Tibet" guest in EU.He is not an American.So do not be drawn into the Olympic issue between U.S and China.As far as Olympic goes,we respect every countries' feeling and their own way to promote their own national pride. Bashing China at any reason or in no reason is only reduced to a farce and no more.

TW, USA:

Of course it was a great success:

- Most importantly, Chinese got the best gold medal count and feel good about themselves

- USA got the highest medal count. Americans feel good too.

- To my big surprise, some western media even praise Chinese people's effort in this event. I fully expect western media to trash Chinese all the way and dehumanizing Chinese.

- The March Tibet event was right before Taiwan election. I still believe that was a coordinated conspiracy by Taiwan Independent movement to affect Taiwan election. But all Chinese united together on that event. For the first time, we saw the flag of Taiwan flying with PRC flag in those demonstration against Tibet movement. Congratulations.

Lessons learned:

- No matter what others say, it's your own social and economic strength that count.

- Western media are very very powerful. They make or break things that why we need to pay attention to them. But in the bottom of the heart, Chinese should believe in themselves and not to look upon western report for judgments.

- Keep on blogging and text messaging. That's the new generation of media. Chinese will blog they way to more openness.

Fog:

"(Reuters) - Beijing's buildings and at times even the mountains can be clearly seen during the day, while the sunset in the evening turns scattered clouds pink and orange.

Normal in other capital cities, the unusual clarity of the Beijing air this month has some citizens wondering how long it can last once the Olympics are over and extraordinary measures ease."

http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUST29235620080820?sp=true

Anonymous:

SYDNEY, step aside. The Beijing Olympics were the best ever Games.

Who said so? None other than the Olympic god himself, International Olympic Committee president Jacques Rogge.

When the Belgian made his long-awaited pronouncement at the closing ceremony on Sunday night, the 91,000 people in the Bird's Nest stadium exploded into applause, and the Chinese nation has been basking in the glory ever since.

But hang on a minute. What did Rogge actually say?

In his speech from the centre of the stadium, he declared the Beijing Games "truly exceptional".

This was immediately translated easily enough into Rogge's native French, the other official Olympic language, as veritablement exceptionnels.

This does not appear to compare favourably with the verdict Rogge pronounced on the Athens Olympics in 2004, as the unforgettable, dream Games". His predecessor, Juan-Antonio Samaranch, had withheld from Atlanta in 1996 the epithet "best-ever Games", which he first delivered at the closing of the Olympics in his home city of Barcelona, in 1992, and then also accorded Sydney in 2000.

Mr Samaranch called Atlanta "most exceptional" -- a phrase widely interpreted as damning with faint praise. Mr Rogge's "truly exceptional" verdict on Beijing does not seem to mark much graduation from that.

But when Mr Rogge made his declaration on Sunday night, the Chinese characters that flashed up on the huge screens, and the translation given by commentators in Chinese for the hundreds of millions of TV viewers throughout China, were wu yi lun bi.

The standard definition of this phrase is "unparalleled" -- or, of course, "best ever".

From the official news agency Xinhua to the Communist Party mouthpiece People's Daily to China Youth Daily and local newspapers around the country, headlines were dominated yesterday by the characters wu yi lun bi.

Xinhua even transmitted a story citing American, European, Japanese and Taiwanese media reports on the 16 days of the Games, saying "world media praise Beijing Olympics as 'wu yi lun bi"'.

Thus, with some sleight of translation, the Chinese authorities have ensured that the zeitgeist of the Olympics, the psychic heritage, will be entrenched in Chinese people's minds as unremittingly positive.

Beijing always wanted "best ever". And even though Mr Rogge pledged, as soon as he succeeded Mr Samaranch in 2001, that he would not use that phrase, he has -- in terms of China -- said it.


Anonymous:

The Western press expects China to have more openness and freedom of expression during and after the Olympics?

One World, Dream on!
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BEIJING -- Sliding her tiny camera through a gap in the 10-foot-tall security fence, a young Chinese woman sighed with disappointment and snapped a photo of the Bird's Nest, where the Summer Games went out in a blaze of fireworks.

"No more Olympics," 21-year-old Hong Hong said. "What do we do now?"

Good question.

After staging the 2008 Games in which the venues were $40 billion of drop-dead gorgeous, buses ran on time and protesters were hauled away to jail, where does China go from here?

For Hong, who got no closer to the Olympics than a spot on the sidewalk after the torch was extinguished, it is back to the cramped tenement flat she shares with a half-dozen young workers trying to scratch out a living in a country where capitalism and communism both rule.

What we saw from the Beijing Olympics was exactly what the Chinese government carefully planned the world to see, although the truth is these games were not a complete picture of China any more than Disney World accurately depicts how America lives.

To think the host country might have falsified the ages of female gymnasts to win gold is disturbing, just as the ugly fact that U.S. citizens who spoke out in the capital city for a free Tibet were sentenced to 10 days of detention reminded us that sports are never a panacea for real-world problems.

But to dismiss the 2008 Olympics as nothing more than one big, elaborate lie is a cop-out by Western visitors who did not bother to take a serious peek behind the "cultural walls" erected to hide the grittier side of Beijing.

"How big is your house?" Hong asked a new friend from Colorado, while searching her wallet for a $5 bill of U.S. currency she keeps as a souvenir. "America rich, China poor."

As the games came to a close, Chinese official Chen Jian bragged the Olympics played a major role in a 12 percent annual growth rate for the local economy.

But not everybody got rich.

Hong works seven days a week as a waitress in a restaurant. Her paycheck is $125 a month.

Part of a new Chinese generation migrating to the cities and rejecting the rural existence that had defined her country for generations, Hong lives in one of Beijing's disappearing hutongs, narrow-alley old neighborhoods rapidly being eaten by towering apartments that rise into the smog.

A toddler back in 1989, she views Tiananmen Square as the place where supermodel Cindy Crawford stopped traffic during the Olympics, rather than the location that "Tank Man" made infamous 19 years ago in the wake of a deadly government attack on protesters, many of whom were no older than Hong is now.

Although China toppled the United States from atop the leaderboard in the Olympic gold medal count, young Beijing entrepreneur Zeng Zhe insists the U.S. should not fear being chased down as an economic world power in the near future. His countrymen are defenseless against three great American heroes: Mickey Mouse, Ronald McDonald and Superman.

"Do you remember the movie 'Superman Returns'?" Zeng asked. "There is a scene where Lex Luthor says, 'If you control technology, you control the world.' China is one giant, efficient factory. But America still controls the technology."

藏头诗一首. Olympics ended, medals counted:

白昼辉煌入夜来
人杰成名烟火台
是非总由闲人说
狗吠雄狮志可哀
无私能聚四方友
耻与小人斗鬼胎
无力胜我场中杰
赖有铜牌作金牌


藏头诗一首. Olympics ended, medals counted:

白昼辉煌入夜来
人杰成名烟火台
是非总由闲人说
狗吠雄狮志可哀
无私能聚四方友
耻与小人斗鬼胎
无力胜我场中杰
赖有铜牌作金牌


Shawn:

Anonymous, The rules in your previous comments are all from western, regardless of whether you quote it right or not. I'm telling you, the Chinese don't like the rules your made, we just simply ignore it and do it in our way. whether you like or don't like it, you have to take it. just as the olympic game, you can keep on bashing it, but you cann't deny it. just like the medal list, China got 51 Gold medal, you can insist you are still number 1 in total ranking, but you have to face China go more Gold Medal than you.

And I'm telling you, we have labeled East Turkestan a terrorism, you'll see their blood but you cann't do nothing. Of course, you can keep posting and bashing here.

And I'm telling you, We will make more rules in the future, the World Bank, WTO, WHO, or whatever so you created will slowly be challenged. You can still don't like it, but you will need to find a way to face it.

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Those American friends, if any offend in my language , please pardon me. I'm really pissed off by this anonymous.
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--Anonymous, you lost all your credibility in your comment about East Turkestan. What is that? Which country recognize it? Even the US considers the organization promoting it a terrorist organization. So when the suicide bomber killed innocent chinese people, you guys call it uprising or freedom fighter. Do you really care about human right in China? What a joke.--

FOR IDIOTS who think they can run away by ignoring facts:

In political geography and international politics, a country is a political division of a geographical entity. Frequently, a sovereign territory, the term is most commonly associated with the notions of both state and nation, and also with government.

In common usage, the term is used casually in the sense of both nations and states. Definitions may vary. It is sometimes used to refer to both states and some other political entities, while in some occasions it refers only to states. It is not uncommon for general information or statistical publications to adopt the wider definition for purposes such as illustration and comparison.

There are non-sovereign territories (subnational entities, another form of political division or administrative division within a larger nation-state) which constitute cohesive geographical entities, some of which are former states, but which are not presently sovereign states. Some are commonly designated as countries (e.g. England, Scotland and Wales), while others are not (e.g., Cornwall, Brittany and Texas). The degree of autonomy and local government varies widely. Some are possessions of states, as several states have overseas dependencies (e.g., the British Virgin Islands, Netherlands Antilles, and American Samoa), with territory and citizenry separate from their own. Such dependent territories are sometimes listed together with states on lists of countries

Wool:

The Western press expects China to have more openness and freedom of expression during and after the Olympics?

One World, Dream on!

ANONYMOUS:

There is little left to criticize China Olympics, when I hold American flag in my hand with the knowledge that it was manufactured by China, and to know that our President was frolicking in China while Russia attacked Georgia.

Anonymous:

"So, did the Olympics succeed?"

A failure, maybe.
So Mr. Pomfret is jealous of a failure too?

Zeke:

By Mitch Albom:

Because it's China.

Because I can still see the Opening Ceremonies in my head.

Because the first people who greeted us gave a small bow, a symbol of respect that repeated itself every day.

Because of Michael Phelps.

Because of his mother.

Because of stories that turn on one hundredth of a second.

Because of NBA players jumping up and down at center court, as if they'd just won a high school title.

Because of seeing Kobe Bryant and LeBron James, unannounced, clapping for U.S. athletes at the pool.

Because 20 Chinese will gather to give directions.

Because 20 Chinese later, you're still lost.

Because, for once, drugs were not the story.

Because of Natalie Du Toit, an amputee from South Africa, who swam a marathon with one leg.

Because of Eric Shanteau, who arrived with testicular cancer but still competed in the breaststroke, serving notice to his disease: you will not kill my dreams -- or me.

Because who knew beach volleyball had that much drama?

Because I thought I knew about China and was wrong on so many levels.

Because a worker shared with me an old Chinese expression, "You're so poor, you only have money."

Because of Peking Duck.

Because of Usain Bolt.

Because of dropped batons and gold medal relays.

Because fans actually cried when Liu Xiang walked off the track.

Because a 67-year-old farmer led us up a mountain to the Great Wall of China, and when we gave him more than the $4 he'd requested, he invited us to his home for a meal.

Because, despite what we heard, the Chinese do hold hands in public.

Because, despite what we heard, you do not need a mask to breathe.

Because, despite what they're told, the Chinese do long for larger families, same as us.

Because, despite what they're told, many Chinese seek out God and religion, even at great risk.

Because the Chinese volunteers took on Western names, like "Betty," to make it easier for us.

Because the Chinese will give you a Chinese name if you ask, although I still can't pronounce mine.

Because, while undeniably under a Communist government, Beijing seemed nothing like the old Soviet Union or East Germany, grim places with miserable people looking over their shoulders. There were smiles and laughter and hope and growth and a belief in their system, even if we doubt it.

Because I didn't know that before going.

Because our female gymnasts were as graceful in defeat as they were on the bars and beams.

Because our softball players cried real tears when they lost their finale -- not just over a silver medal, but because their sport was being eliminated.

Because an American you never heard of -- Bryan Clay -- won the decathlon; still, in my book, the greatest athletic feat in the world.

Because women such as Sheila Taormina, Dara Torres and Lisa Leslie proved you're never too old.

Because 14 year-old divers and who-knows-what-age gymnasts proved you're never too young.

Because of the Forbidden City.

Because of the Temple of Heaven.

Because in two-plus weeks of sporting competition, I never heard a boo.

Because of buses next to cars next to bicycles next to a mule.

Because of hutongs (or alleys) that show what Beijing once was, and gleaming shopping malls that show what it's becoming.

Because you never appreciate another country -- or your own -- until you walk on foreign soil.

Because of these reasons, and a million others, I have an answer to the question I've been asked upon returning: "Was it worth going all the way to China?"

I thank you and the Detroit Free Press for the privilege of telling Beijing stories.

Because it really, truly was.

Julie A.:

John P.,
I'm curious what the perspective was of your friend who you went to school with who became the sports reporter in Italy. Anything to share of his views of the overall succes of the games?
JA

Anonymous:

Unlike the so-called democratic countries, China is run by professional engineers looking at blue-print for the next 10-20 years. The so-called money spent on Olympics is already covered by spsonsors and sales of olympics villages with a very handsome profit. They might be bad at PR, but they are very good at planning and execution. Countries run by professional carpetbaggers, who only worries about the next election, cannot possibly match that. The olympics is a proof to the world what China can accomplish and not to impress anybody for the sake of vanity. Get real. Nobody would expect Western countries to approve anything that China does. And who the hell cares what westerners think anyway.

Independent:


I was very disappointed with most of the "coverage" of the Olympics by "The Washington Post." The reporters seemed quite xenophobic, extremely nationalistic, determined to find fault with any aspect they could think of about the Olympics being in China. The whining, carping, especailly by one of the bloggers, seemed to offer no semblance of journalistic "objectivity."

Mr. Boswell must not write about politics, if he believes this was the first event where he believed he Chinese government would try to co-opt the media. Presidential administrations have been trying, often successfully, to co-opt the media in this county for many decades. The vast majority of the media in the United States was very effectively co-opted by the Bush administration leading up to the invasion of Iraq.

The media in this country thrives on conflict and problems. They are nearly as likely to be offended by a show of harmony at the political conventions, as some were with the Olympics. Reporters generally seem to think their right to cover the news as they deem fit is more important than anything else.

The coverage by BBC and "The New York Times"
was generally more fair and balanced. The media in the United States was determined to declare the United States the "winner" by tallying total medals, instead of using a medal table, emphasizing gold medals, as BBC used. The result was most of the media in this country considered bronze and silver medals the equivalent of gold medals.

By Mr. Boswell's medal "count," using his criteria, somewhat based upon monetary awards by the United States Olympic Committee, not anyone else, China narrowly won. Yet others would use different criteria, as "The New York Times" occasionally wrote gold medals should be worth four points, silver medals two points, bronze medals, one point.

I think by Chinese standards, the Olympics were a great success. There was adequate security and air pollution was less of a problem than many thought it would be. Bob Costas, in his commentary last night, said it was a memorable Olympics with many records being set, more nations competing than ever and more countries winning at least one medal than before.

The main purpose of the Olympics, despite what the media in this country may otherwise think, is to try to bring together the people in different countries of the world, to celebrate our common humanity, at least for about eightteen days. I think most people in the world, including the vast majority of the athletes competing, would consider the Olympics in China, as they usually have in other countries, been a success by these standards.

Jim:

The success can only be evaluated by two things:

Are common Chinese people satified of the game and performance?

Are athelets satified the game and their performance?

The answer will be obvious. Who cares what your sore opinion.

Lost in translation? :

Chinese turn Rogge's praise into 'best ever'

Mr Rogge's "truly exceptional" verdict on Beijing does not seem to mark much graduation from that.

But when Mr Rogge made his declaration on Sunday night, the Chinese characters that flashed up on the huge screens, and the translation given by commentators in Chinese for the hundreds of millions of TV viewers throughout China, were wu yi lun bi.

The standard definition of this phrase is "unparalleled" - or, of course, "best ever".

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24242307-2702,00.html

Zeke:

Anonymous worte:

"--Depend on how do you define success. If it means change China-basher's mind, such as John Pomfret and ANONYMOUS, it did not. If it means united chinese all over the world, it did.--

does it mean all those chinese are going back home?"

Why? Hispanics will be majority in 20-30 years in US. That set a good role model for us. HA HA.

Raoul's Sister:

From a PR perspective (where things are evaluated from a positive, neutral or negative point of view,)the Beijing Olympics is a huge win, at least in the US. I bet if you assess the press about the venues, athletes, local activities, it would be a groundswell of positive press.

The human rights angle of course is the big exception. However, as any PR professional will tell you, the press machine in China did a fantastic job of redirecting that issue taking the "olympics are about sport not politics" tack, making it net-neutral. And in PR, for a touchy issue like that, it's a win for China.

Will it change things culturally in Beijing? I seriously, seriously doubt it. The biggest issue IMO will be what they do with the athletes' housing, the Birds Nest and the Cube. I expect well see a series of stories in the next few months about they have been converted to house people who were displaced for these facilities and other "success stories."

Wow I am cynical this early in the day. I need more coffee.

Zeke:

Come on, it makes no sense arguing who has the most medals. How will that determine whether the 08 olympic game is a success or not? It is the game attended by the most countries, and more countries (about 86) won medals than ever. That is why this game is a success.

Wells:

Anonymous:

"It is bloodily ridiculous to see China-bashers (most of them are "Free Tibet" morons,Easter Turkic Terrorists) talking bad of China for this or that funny reasons in a saint-like looks.

Bashers are total losers."Free Tibet" are morons.Easter Turkic Terrorists have to be paid back by blood for sure. Chinese are going to prevail and become more strong.

Bashing China in no reason only waken Chinese to be realistic to this world and consolidate Chinese willingness to fight off those malicious attempt to sever our country.

Don't play a game between Chinese government and ordinary Chinese and try to estrange our Chinese.We are all firmly believing a complete China with unbending determination.LOL."

If you do not have anything to worry about, then why post this crap? It can not be for us westerners, because frankly most of us do not care. I am going to assume you are a man due to your worthless ramblings of Chinese useless dogma. The future will be what it will be. Stronger motherland, millions of Germans sounded the same as you, same with the Japan. Look what happened to them. History so repeats. The point is, if China does clamp down as most predict, it will proves us correct and that "China bashers" are correct. That will open a lot of eyes and no good will come of it. Japan and Germany thought they were tough and unstable. 1000 year empire crap and all. Sound familiar. One problem, an embargo on both kind of defeated them. If you do not have the resources, you can not be strong. China should be concerned about that.


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First of all.You can only represent you and yourself only,not all your westerners.I saw more balanced view from the true westerner,who are very knowledgeable and excel at critical thinking rather than following the corrupted western media's fabrication. Some of their points are poignant to Chinese but they never invariably bash everything for sake of bashing,which could be called bias,admit or not.

Your comparison of China to Japan and Germany is so weak. Want to make an analogue? How much similarity you can derive from it? What you said about the ethnic or geopolitical stuffs are very controversial and there are many western experts evidence its complexity. So how could you dispense readily your superior judgment and brush off others all as "crap"?

Your vision for the future only throw people in confusion and nobody know what it will be. Since you are so eager to slap on China with this notorious image of Japan and Germany in WW2,why you are so blind to nowadays Western buddy system? They buddy together and use all excuses to interfere with other countries.Just take a small example,they just cannot treat two equivalents evenly: Kosovo and S.Ossetia. "Defend democracy" is actually conspire with our buddy to cripple a born big muscle guy,Russia.

Since you are standing such "height" of morality and humanity,you ought to watch your westerner buddy countries.They are so professional in turning other people's trivial tension into bloodshed and glad to do this trick again and again.

You want us believe a separated China is much better than today's "suppressed" China? Iraq is the role model. We Chinese do not have that anarchy and thus millions casualty to spare.Don't fool us and fool yourself either.

Comparing with China bashers,Chinese are much more tolerant and willing to accept their own problem.But even this cannot trade back a little respect and understanding.Look at the Western media and take a look at the Chinese coverage of the western country (if you can read Chinese).Chinese tradition of modesty embolden Western unscrupulous and brazen insult and humiliation. Just like your words,a vision of threat is hanging upon Chinese and make us shudder and dare not to speak out.

China is merging in this world,not just in the very few western countries,which cannot prove their moral standard.For example, Britain's collaboration with U.S to invade Iraq to maintain a buddy or gangster nature instead of showing us their attention for people's precious life. Look at the media,when BBC and CNN mentioned "international" and "the world",they are so thick-skin to use their own opinion with this huge name.

Too much to say.It must be again accredited by you as "rambling" and slogan.But discredit other people's opinion does not make yours look good.

non-Olympics? :

World Games 2009 Taiwan!

"KAOHSIUNG (08/25/08). Right after the end of the Olympic Games in Beijing attention is already drawn to the next big multi-sport event under the patronage of the IOC. The 8th World Games will take place in Chinese Taipei from 16 to 26 July 2009. They will be hosted by the harbour city Kaohsiung, 400 kilometres from the capital Taipei, in the south of the island near the Chinese mainland coast. The organizer is the International World Games Association (IWGA). The World Games features the best 3,500 sportsmen and women from 32 sports federations that are currently not on the Olympic programme."

http://www.sportsfeatures.com/index.php?section=pp&action=show&id=47479

Anonymous:

Certainly American anthem.Without U.S,E.U cannot even be called power.
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whahahahahaha.. pity idiot you are..

Anonymous:

"Western world is purely jealous of an Asian giant"

Yes, please. I would love to take a 98% pay cut, shorten my life expectancy by 10 years, develop lung problems, rarely see the sky and have no say what so ever in government.

Anonymous:

Well, if you look at it from a statistical point of view. China has 4.5 times more people then the USA, so maybe they should win 4.5 times more medals? If you look at it that way, then almost everyone beat china.

Sam:

Anonymous:

//EU HAS STILL MOST MEDALS!!//

Which national anthem to play?
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Certainly American anthem.Without U.S,E.U cannot even be called power.

Anju Chandel:

The 2008 Beijing Olympics changed the world's perspective about China as it set new standards in sports as well as showcased an unprecedented spectacular spectacle of opening and closing ceromonies.

Now it is to be seen whether interaction with the world populace under Olympics banner will inspire China to change its perspective and, therefore, its attitude towards rest of the world, and, if it will be willing to come out of its Bird's Nest. ... It's high time.

IOC Gold Medal:

"The President of the Beijing 2008 Organising Committee (BOCOG), Liu Qi, today received the Olympic Order in Gold from the hands of International Olympic Committee’s (IOC) President Jacques Rogge in recognition of all the hard work that went into putting on these truly exceptional Games. This was China’s last gold medal of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games but perhaps its most important one because after seven years of intense preparations, BOCOG and China has offered to the world 16 days of exciting Olympic sports competitions, supported by smooth operations - a success which has permitted the athletes to achieve their best in optimal conditions."

http://www.olympic.org/uk/news/olympic_news/full_story_uk.asp?id=2780

XXIX:

'(Xinhua) -- The People's Daily, voice of the Communist Party of China Central Committee, published an editorial on Monday hailing the Beijing Olympics which closed on Sunday night.

"The 16-day sport event has brought enormous joy and enthusiasm to the humanity, and has won glory for both the host city Beijing and the Olympics," read the commentary...'

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-08/25/content_9701219.htm

to "Anonymous":

EU 'wins' 2008 Olympic games

'The 27 member states of the EU when counted together won 87 gold medals at the Beijing Olympics, dwarfing the individual tallies of China on 51 and the US on 36, as the games closed on Sunday (24 August).

The figures - compiled as a mini-political project by think-tank the Young European Federalists and just for fun by German PR firm Euro-Informationen - also show the EU on 280 medals in total, ahead of China (100) and the US (110).

"The European Union therefore takes the leading position. It's a victory for sport and for the fundamental and common values of the people of the union," French president Nicolas Sarkozy - currently chairing the EU - said." ...'

http://euobserver.com/843/26636

Anonymous:

"So, did the Olympics succeed? "

Well, you think people are jealous of a failure?

Anonymous:

//EU HAS STILL MOST MEDALS!!//

Which national anthem to play?

Go by weight:

Go by weight!

A gold per 170 pounds!

Chinese are lighter...

Anonymous:

Golds per team member

EU HAS STILL MOST MEDALS!!

Anonymous:

What about the Cheerleaders? They should count too. 1000 golds for U.S. Shame on China, that goldish looser.

Golds per team member! :

'Taking individual event finals into account, the host nation was the runaway leader in gold medals, with 51 to 36 for the United States. But the United States led in total medals with 110 to 100 for China, 72 for Russia and 47 for Great Britain, host of the 2012 London Games.

On top of that, as the country that introduced and perfected the concept of sabermetrical parsing, the U.S. came up with a way to finish on top in gold medals.

Counting its dominance in team sports in the final week of the Games, “More individual U.S. athletes will carry home gold medals around their neck than any other nation, if you want to count it that way,” said Jim Scherr, U.S. Olympic Committee CEO.

By that measure, the Americans routed the home team. Computing gold medals presented to each athlete on teams in men’s and women’s basketball, men’s volleyball, women’s rowing, beach volleyball and relay teams in track and swimming, among others, the U.S. claimed 125 total golds to 74 for China. In total medals awarded, the United States scored 315 to 186 for China...'

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5963934.html

Anonymous:

// So, did the Olympics succeed? //

Well, did the Olympics fail?

Bacheye Te-roon:

پس حالا که همچین شد، من هم به زبان خودم مینویسم!! اصلاً به من چه که این مثلاً یک روزنامه انگلیسی زبان است--چشمان کور آنهایی که میخوانند هم باید چینی یاد بگیرند و هم فارسی. ضمناً زنده باد هرکس و چیزی بغیر از امریکا!!

Translation for the infidels and the uneducated:(!!)
Now that it is a free for all
I will also write in my own language

Who cares if this is an English language paper.

Let it be the rule that all those that want to read this page must learn Chinese and my language (which I have left it a secret until you figure it out for yourselves

Anonymous:

Who is faker?

both Chinese and Americans. EU has nost medals.

Anonymous:

说假还是美国人行.算奖牌总数.

假如中国得十面金牌,美国十一面铜牌,也算美国赢?这就象用两张小钞去哄小孩手里的一张大钞.

全世界都知道中国第一,只有美国人认为美国第一.

谁假?

Pomfret先生,您醒醒吧.


Regarding faking, my vote still goes to USA. They count the totals of Olympic medals.

So, if China won 10 golds and USA 11 bronzes, USA still wins? This is like cheating out a $20 bill from a child with two $1 bills.

The whole world knows China has won, only Americans think that USA has won.

Who is faker?

张口“纳粹” 闭口“人权”:

张口“纳粹” 闭口“人权”

我们当然知道我们的生活状况有很多不如意的地方(其中也有你们“伟大”美国人的很多“功劳”),但是,这些是我们的事,我们会努力解决。

一边心里狠不得整死我们,一边还假惺惺的说要改善我们的人权。求求你了,别再把自己当沙比了行吗,拿点高明的伎俩出来吧。

发展才是硬道理:

Pomfret 先生:
我一直读你的blog以及你的同胞的一系列评论。我们非常感谢您提供了这样一个平台,让我们了解到美国人的想法。
“伟大”的美国人,你们让我们知道“落后就要挨打”,“发展才是硬道理”。


Midas:

"And so China could celebrate their ultimate aim of these Olympics - to become the first Asian country to head the gold medal count.

In the United States, strangely, Team USA still remain the dominant force in world sport, because the media there count overall medals, and they lead 110-100.

But the US Olympic Committee, by paying US$25,000 (S$35,000) for a gold medal, US$15,000 for silver and US$10,000 for bronze, provides a fairer gauge: 25 points for gold, 15 for silver, 10 for bronze.

By that method, China have 1,870 points and the Americans 1,830..."

http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/print/Breaking%2BNews/Sport/Story/STIStory_271678.html

真希望所有的美国人都如你一样:

Anonymous:
"I am going to assume you are a man due to your worthless ramblings of Chinese useless dogma."

Of course it is a man. China is such a sausage factory. With 40 million more males then females under the age of 30 and hundreads of thousands of Chinese women working on getting western husbands, China will probably declares itself the first mostly gay nation. LOL

所有的美国人都如你一样就好了,希望你的后代,青出于蓝 甚于蓝--最终 无知+无耻到不堪一击 哈哈
do you know what I mean?