Some Chinese friends have asked me to write a post or two in Chinese. So here goes. For those of you who don't read Chinese, it's similar to the Should We Give China a Break? post of two days ago.
总的来说我的评价是这样。在新闻报导方面,包括中国体操队员年龄的问题,北京空气污染,林妙可假唱的事,汉族小孩假扮少数民族小孩上开幕式,票卖完了但是赛场空的奇怪现象等等,我就觉得西方媒体写得蛮客观的。这些事情确实有的。西方媒体包括《华盛顿邮报》,《纽约时报》等媒体据我所了解没有出现什么捏造事实的行为。又不是一天到晚写这些不愉快的事情。
但是西方评论家写北京奥运的意义的时候往往让我非常遗憾。等他们想总结一下这次的奥运代表什么,说明什么的时候,往往他们的结论又简单又傻。冷战思想还是蛮浓的。同时也显出美国社会的不自信。比如说,奥运第一天我们报社登了一篇体育记者写的稿子,说这次奥运不仅仅是运动比赛的高潮,也是两个制度的竞争。哪两个制度呢?美国和中国。
再过一个星期《纽约时报》的评论家写了一篇稿子分析亚洲人和西方人的性格。评论家看开幕式的时候下了一个结论:亚洲人非常集体,西方人强调个人。因此他说奥运的意义是它代表"集体" 性格国家的崛起。他的意思是中国对西方国家的挑战不仅仅是因为他大,是因为他跟我们不一样。
我在中国生活了10年了。虽然我老听别人(特别是从来没有在中国住过的外国人) 说"中国人不太强调个人" 等等的结论,我还是觉得那种话只不过是吹牛而已。这些" 专家"肯定从来没有在中国的街上开过车,从来没有下过中国的飞机。同时很有可能这些人也没有意识到中国经济最火的地方在哪儿呢?在个体和私营那块。
同时好像评论家一跑到中国去就忘了他在美国的根。尽管我们在这边老说美国人多么多么个人主义,我们的确从小到大一直在强调团队活动。我的儿子才5岁,但他早就开始参加团队运动了。美国人强调团队精神,但在中国谁都想做老板。
最后《邮报》登出另外一个评论家的稿子,让我反感得不行。评论家问了一个问题:俄国进攻格鲁吉亚和北京举行奥运开幕式,哪个更可怕?答案是:还是开幕式可怕。为什么呢?因为开幕式动用了那么多人,很说明中国不珍惜个人。
那个评论家还继续吹这样的话。跟姚明一起带领中国队入场的还有一个9岁的男孩,他是四川地震的生存者。那个小孩在地震的时候救了他两个同学的命。NBC采访了他,问他,你为什么这样做。小孩回答说,因为我是班长之类的话。评论家觉得那句话很可怕。好像那个小孩是一颗革命螺丝钉似的。
拜托,我对自己说。一个领导,不管多小,做了一件大事,但是他的勇敢偏偏要被理解成洗脑的结果。我又觉得评论家忘了他的根,忘了自己国家的人。9/11不是有了很多人牺牲在他们的工作岗位上了吗?警察,消防队等等。难道他们也被洗脑了吗?
总的来说,这些稿子证明了美国人对中国崛起的担忧。我们表面上很自信。但心里也可能跟中国人一样浮躁。
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Many of the Chinese writing in this blog are hypocrites. If you don't like US, why are you holding the US passports, greencards, or engaging attorneys to arrange for your work permits here? You are brainwashed by the communist, and your education system in china doesn't encourage you to think of right and wrong. Therefore, unscrupulous practises in china are abundant. I have lived in Beijing and done extensive business travels all around China, and I know how limited knowledge the general chinese have. Just because you don't know china well, as you are brainwashed and hardly travel domestically let alone overseas, you have assumed the china critics have no knowledge of China.
Let me say this: give up your western citizenships if you don't like the freedom, and go back to china with your nationalistic ferver.
September 2, 2008 9:43 PM | Report Offensive Comment
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说过民主的平庸.现在说说民主的庸俗.
"假唱"事件本来可以这样理解:好看女孩的歌声不够好,才换上别人的声音, 又或样子和声音同时找(事实上,两人的名字都在节目单上).那么最多是不够正当,但不会伤害到唱歌女孩.然而西方刻意从相反方向看,按丑闻来理解,造成那个"丑陋"女孩的照片到处都是,渲染她的牙齿和嘴唇之不美,全世界都知道她"丑",则很可能伤害她一生.此事上,西方看来开明和公义,实则市井而冷酷.
民主的品味往往就如此恶俗.象美国的"reality show"之类以当众羞辱不幸的人为大众娱乐的节目均事出有因.
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几年来,浏览英文媒体,几乎没见过对中国的正面评价!
我对西方人的印象已经形成!
越来越多的中国人能阅读英语,我想有敌意情绪的中国人不会只有我一个!说真的,你们这些美国媒体人真的能了解中国人吗?
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August 26, 2008 1:49 AM | Report Offensive Comment
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August 25, 2008 11:10 AM | Report Offensive Comment
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说假还是美国人行.算奖牌总数.
假如中国得十面金牌,美国十一面铜牌,也算美国赢?这就象用两张小钞去哄小孩手里的一张大钞.
全世界都知道中国第一,只有美国人认为美国第一.
谁假?
Pomfret先生,您醒醒吧.
Regarding faking, my vote still goes to USA. They count the totals of Olympic medals.
So, if China won 10 golds and USA 11 bronzes, USA still wins? This is like cheating out a $20 bill from a child with two $1 bills.
The whole world knows China has won, only Americans think that USA has won.
Who is faker?
August 25, 2008 3:25 AM | Report Offensive Comment
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Western Media and Beijing Olympics
By Ben Mah
In an Op-ed column on January 24, 2008 in the New York Times, Nicholas D. Kristof, former Times China correspondent and a Pulitzer winner termed the Beijing Games as “China’s genocide Olympics”. China, Mr. Kristof said, is tarnishing her “own Olympiad by abetting genocide in Darfur and in effect undermining the U.N. military deployment there.” He went further to continue his usual rhetoric without giving any concrete evidence: “There’s a growing recognition that perhaps the best way of averting hundreds of thousands more deaths in Sudan is to use the leverage of the Olympics to shame China into more responsible behavior.”1.
Had Mr. Kristof worked a little harder and studied the facts he would find the root cause of what he called Darfur genocide lay not on China, but his own government in Washington. Perhaps Mr. Kristof did not want to criticize his own country’s odious behavior.
After spending $1.2 billion in developing the oil field in Darfur, Chevron sold it to a consortium partly owned by a Chinese oil firm. The consortium assumed the development of the oil field with great success. However, Chevron remained in neighboring Chad and developed a close relationship with Idriss Deby, the corrupted president who is friendly to the United States.2.
Mr. Deby, with close military cooperation and assistance from the United States, equipped the Darfur rebels with modern U.S. weapons to fight the central government of Sudan and ignited the bloodbath in 2004.2.
The main fighting rebel group was the Sudan People’s Liberation Army headed by U.S trained John Garang. Thus, by supplying arms to the rebel groups, Washington put herself in the middle of the civil conflict that led to tens of thousands of deaths and millions of refugees in Sudan. This is obviously a resource war, as the Western oil company would love to get back the Darfur oil fields it sold.2.
Although as the main culprit of the Darfur conflict and, by rallying on propagandists like Mr. Kristof , Hollywood movie stars like Mia Farrow and director like Steven Spielberg, Washington conducted a vigorous campaign under the slogan of “Darfur genocide” and in the name of humanism to save the people of Darfur. Actually, the main objective was to prepare another battle ground for oil by sending UN/NATO forces into the Darfur oil fields. Washington’s strategy is to destabilize Sudan, as Sudan is now facing U.S. trained and equipped rebels from three neighboring states, all with governments friendly to America.2.
Mr. Kristof, without looking at the hard facts, claimed that “China is the largest arms suppliers to Sudan, officially selling $83 million in weapons, aircraft and spare parts to Sudan in 2005.”1. But according to the Chinese government, “China only accounted for 8 percent of the country’s arms imports in 2006, Russian and UK were the biggest arms exports to the developing nations, including Sudan.”3. Moreover, China’s exports were legally under the United Nations and only accounts for 3 percent of global sales, while the United Sates tops with 36 percent of the total, according to the U.S. Congressional reports in 2007.3. It turns out that the U.S. government is the merchant of death after all, and yet Mr. Kristof has the audacity to accuse China for underwriting the “ultimate crime of genocide.”1. Without any objectivity as a journalist, Mr. Kristof is totally blind to the complicity and the misdeeds of his own government and lays the blame on others. However, for those readers familiar with Mr. Kristof and other New York Times reporters’ dispatches from China, this was not a real surprise, for this newspaper always exaggerated every news event with bias and prejudice. This is another form of China bashing or demonizing China in the tradition of the nation’s premier newspaper.
Little less than a month after Mr. Kristof’s media campaign against China for Darfur genocide, another drive to discredit China in connection with the Olympics was under way in the United States, and this time on Beijing’s air quality or pollution in China. With six months to go before Olympics, U.S. correspondents from Beijing already asserted that with “Beijing’s air pollution on most days is off the charts, and in August, high humidity only exacerbates the problem.”4. Physicians from the U.S. Olympic team went to Beijing and measured pollution levels, and the readings were “awful”, according to this news report.4.
This campaign of attack on China in connection with the Olympics by the Western media was carried out right to the eve of the Opening Ceremony of the Games, as headline such as “Air Pollution Shrouds Beijing on the eve of Games”, were prevalent.5. It is not surprising that under this kind of unfair media attack, several American athletes arrived in China’s airport wearing face masks. Only they had to apologize to the Chinese hosts.6.
However, this media campaign was dismissed by the Chairman of the IOC medical commission, who said the air quality standards set by the World Health Organization were met in many respects by Beijing, although they were “fairly tough to meet.”5. He also said that WHO officials were concerned over the “exaggeration of the problem that has been seen in the media.”6. He said that “athletes in Beijing will face the same conditions of high heat and humidity that were prevalent in Atlanta in 1996 and Athens in 2004.”6.
Sadly for those harsh environmental critics of Beijing, the weather during the Olympics in Beijing was the best in 10 years and within Olympic standards. Expectedly, none of this was reported in the Western press.
Hypocrisy, willful oversight on the facts and the use of double standards in their news reports with regard to China are the hallmark of Western journalism, especially those from prominent U.S. newspapers and the major networks. This uniformed, arrogant and untruthful institution with unethical bias against China exposed itself more fully to the Chinese public in the March Tibetan Riot of 2008.
Using reports from Amnesty International, London-based human rights group, rather than relying on its own reporting, Western media portrayed criminal acts of violence, of crime against humanity, of looting and arson and beating in Lhasa as “China’s crackdown on protesters in Tibet.”7.
American politicians the likes of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who rushed to meet the Dalai Lama in the wake of the Tibetan Riot, called for the president to boycott the opening ceremony. Thus, the Western media once again raised the possibility that the world leaders would boycott the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games by mixing politics with the Games which is contrary to the spirit of Olympics.
However, much to the disappointment of the Western politicians the likes of Pelosi, Angela Merkel of Germany and the Western media, all their efforts against China were in vain, as “more than 100 heads of state, heads of government and sovereigns attended the opening ceremony. The number of heads of state who attended the opening ceremony was by far the largest in Olympic history.”8.
The opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics was described by some as “the greatest show the world ever seen and it brought joy that became delirious in a people of 1.3 billion”.9. However, this did not impress the current New York Times Correspondent, Mr. Jim Yardley in Beijing, as he only used two sentences to describe the ceremony, and devote the rest of his long dispatch to describe the smoggy skies, the security clamp down, the “possible terror threats”, a deserted city of about 15 million people, the four “Free Tibet” demonstrators, the several “well-known dissidents under house arrest”, and the 100,000 police and soldiers posted around the city. On this occasion, he also reminded his readers that China’s Olympic bid was rejected 15 years ago, but he conveniently forgot to disclose the fact that in the 2000 Olympic bid the “deciding votes turned out to have essentially been bought.”10.11. If it wasn’t for the corrupted process, China would have held the Games eight years ago.
Only four days after the spectacular opening ceremony, the Western press stirred up another controversy, and this time was the authenticity of a tiny part of the production. It turned out that on the request of the broadcaster to ensure broadcast quality, both the music and part of the fireworks were pre-recorded. Using lip-synching technology, the girl who did the performance was actual using another girl’s voice. Although the lip-synch technology and video-clip were invented in the West, and it is commonly put to use as in the case of the popular movie “The Sound of Music” and others, China was severely criticized for doing the same thing. To the Chinese organizers of the ceremony, this was “to achieve the best performance.”12. But to the Western press, as best represented by The Times of London, this was “The counterfeit Games: designed to look good from every angle.”12. Another added: “The switch was hardly the first case of lip-synching, but was ‘possibly the cruelest’”12. They wanted to create another scandal and stir up sympathy for the child. Much to their disappointment, the parents of the children refused to let their daughters be interviewed, as “each felt privileged just to have taken part.”12.
Nonetheless, the relentless vitriolic attack continued. As a matter fact, the campaign against China began right from the day China was awarded the Games. Human right, Tibet, pollution and most astonishingly, genocide were some of the issues used to demonize China, despite the fact that China has never committed genocide. Unlike the Americans, who should be accused of such a crime, as she initiated aggression against Iraq and Afghanistan, resulting in over millions of innocent civilian deaths and several millions of refugees. Yet there were no outcry of genocide from the Western media and journalists such as Kristof and his New York Times colleagues. What hypocrites!
To many Chinese it is rather puzzling that China after a century of suffering humiliation from the Western imperial powers still receives scorn and unwarranted criticism from the Western media. Partly one can attribute it to racism, as Western society is generally a racist society. But more importantly, Western countries are now experiencing job losses due to outsourcing and increased competitions from China. Consequently, most of this anger and frustration of the working people are now directed at China. China bashing becomes a popular sport, and the media is taking advantage of this kind of environment.
Therefore to avoid being the target of unreasonable bashing and maintaining its own independence and dignity, China must abandon using trade as the main driver of her national development. China must concentrate her energy to develop her internal economy, create her own demands and be free from trade dependence.
Notes:
Kristof Nicholas D.: “China’s Genocide Olympics” January 24, 2008 New York Times
Engdahl William F.: “Darfur? It’s the Oil, Stupid?” May 25, 2007 Asia Times
China Embassy: “China refutes accusation on arms sales to Sudan” July 3, 2008 www.china-embassy.org
Sy Stephanie, Loyd Beth: “U.S.Olympic Officals Call Beijing Pollution Levels ‘Awfu’” February 15, 2008 ABC News
MSNBC: “Air Pollution Shrouds Beijing on the eve of Games” August 7, 2008 Associated Press
Associated Press: “U.S. Cyclists take no chances with pollution at Beijing Olympics” August 5, 2008
Chang Arlene: “Tibet Critics Focus on Olympics Opening Ceremony” April 2, 2008 IPS
Wikipedia: “2008 Summer Olympics Opening Ceremony”
Lawton James: “The great show the world has even seen” August 8, 2008 Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Yardley Jim: “Olympic Games begin in Beijing” August 8, 2008 New York Times
Langman Jere: Why China Has The Torch” August 3, 2008 New York Times
Sullivan Rohan : “Chinese defend Olympic ceremony lip-synch” August 13, 2008 Associated Press
August 24, 2008 10:52 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 24, 2008 10:52
中国人的假,诚而不实.
美国人的假,实而不诚.
Chinese fake: Sincere but dishonest.
Western/American fake: Honest but insincere.
August 24, 2008 2:33 AM | Report Offensive Comment
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John:
我不知道你的中文名字,所以只好用英文名字稱呼。 讀了你流暢的,結構完整的,稍稍帶點洋味的中文,倒讓我對我的英文更有信心。用第二語言寫文章,永遠會有些不太百分之百本士的味道,但是That's OK. 這點對我鼓勵不少。不知你的中文是在台北還是北京學的?
至於西方媒体了不了解中國,這似乎只是次要的問題。問題還是他們是不是在下意識裡詆譭中國。 我想是的。 但是這也未必沒有好處。 為什麼呢?
以北愛爾蘭為例。七八十年代,英國牢裡北愛爾蘭志士(或是暴徒)共有幾十個,一個個絕食,鐵娘子讓他們絕食至死為止,照現在對中國的作法,早該死一個就來一次頭條新聞,加上全家照片什麼的。 當然啦,在倫敦,你可以拉個標語說要北愛獨立,但是他們要讓你死照樣讓你死。 我不覺得有什麼真正的差別。也許西方媒体比較了解英國吧。比起北愛爾蘭想獨立的意志,西藏獨立的決心可能又差遠了。
為什麼說未必沒有好處呢。 畢竟中國的問題太多了。 有人說林妙可唱歌是中國人愛造假,這是胡說八道。但是体操選手的年齡可是真正的問題,而應該認真追查的。 如果真有造假,一定要好好懲罰中國的奧運團隊,來個什麼十年不能參加比賽什麼的。 為什麼呢,奧運金牌畢竟是假的,只是個面子,若能打一下中國法律裡做事不確實,馬馬虎虎的毛病,還是很值得的。
August 23, 2008 7:40 AM | Report Offensive Comment
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跟一些西方人说话真要疯掉.说了好几次要走,用了好几个笔名(有感而发的笔名,非为隐藏),感到这种地方简直有损健康.这次我真的要走了.假如 Pomfret 先生再发现我的电脑 ip 出现在这里,请派个杀手把我干掉.
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August 23, 2008 5:26 AM | Report Offensive Comment
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ok.
Mr. Pomfret,
I apologize to you and your family.
I would not come bac again. Take care.
To show my sorrifulness I give you a good Chinese name for your last name to make up my disrespect. That sounds exactly as your English Last Name.
約翰鵬飛
it means a great bird flying high.
Also related to General Yue(岳鵬舉) of Song Dynasty who died of faith of unification of China.
Since you said you care about China, and spend your life for China, even though you have your own American biased view toward our One China belief,
but still I give this Chinese name to you to make up my mistake and also mainly hope this name would carry your heart and deed, so every time you write about China and Chinese, your new Chinese name remind you about our belief to help do good work toward Chinese.
好自為之了﹐ 約翰鵬飛先生。
August 22, 2008 10:40 AM | Report Offensive Comment
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To ANONYMOUS thd Red Guard:
You said:
"You American only care about yourself, and how you not to respect Chinese belief?
But how dare you write to support Dalai and Taiwan?"
So, if someone disagree with you and all Chinese' view, you have the moral right to hurt their family? You probably do not agree US policy in Iraq, in Georga and Mr. Bush, in your logic, all Americans have the right to say bad things about your father? If anyone disagree with Russia' action in Georga, all Russians can say bad things to that anyone?
I believe Tibet should be part of China. I also believe China should keep on improving itself politically to earn more support of people in Taiwan. Actually China has changed a lot since those Red Guards days or the days of "Ching Suan" land lords. In those logic, all the current new rich should be killed. But, it's people like YOU push everyone against China.
People like you have to change.
August 22, 2008 9:19 AM | Report Offensive Comment
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Pomfret 先生
尊重与羞辱往往都是互相的.骚扰夫人是不对,但您自己呢?遗香搜臭,揭人阴私,文章立意暧昧,用语轻佻,这与骚扰夫人的行为如出一辙.所谓种瓜得瓜,种豆得豆,从别人身上您也要看到您自己.光抗议别人,自己不改,可正是西方人,尤其是美国人的通病.
Anonymous
//....西方人注重的是利益,不是文化....//
西方人曾经注重文化.文艺复兴时对阿拉伯,印度,中国都很尊重.似乎是工业革命后才变成现在这样.我自己觉得英法两国误导了西方文化.前者冷酷贪婪,后者庸俗绮靡(kitsch, Pseudo-Romanticism, impressionism, fashion etc.).美国其实是英国的派生物,但较开明.而好莱坞便是英法文化生下的怪胎.今日西方似乎与文艺复兴时截然不同.
August 22, 2008 2:11 AM | Report Offensive Comment
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Hi Dana,
Even I also agree Anonymous is the one opinionated, and he kind of force his own belief upon others regardless of what others think.
But I don't agree with you about Taiwan. It's not about the size issue, it also doesn't matter if the other side don't accept one China. This is a issue when talking about National Sovereignty. Can u just declare independent and form a kingdom of 4 members from your family inside the US? put it into a bit larger scale, can ur town declare whenever your people want? Can ur City or your State do that?
Let's take a look at the latest Russia and Georgia conflict, regardless of strategy plan Your US or NATO have, why your don't simply let South Ossetia independent from Georgia? and respect People from South Ossetia? Why your US and Nato support Georgia to bully South Ossetia? why Your guys condemn Russia over the conflict instead of condemn Georgia who start the invasion to South Ossetia? ( Btw, can I use the word Invasion here? I could recall your guys always use the word Invasion on Chinese PLA over Xizang and other conflicts they involved.)
August 22, 2008 1:10 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 22, 2008 01:10
To Anonymous:
Seems like you are the opinionated one here. Your post is full of contradictions. It's obvious that (to quote you) You chinese only care about yourself, and you do not respect the Taiwanese belief (or other culture's). It's all about you you YOU! Isn't it? The talk about chinese belief of "one China" is laughable, as it is only one sided, as it is NOT the same as the Taiwanese belief. You feel angry when other people don't think the same way as you, but meanwhile you have to force your own belief upon others regardless of what others think. You know nothing about Taiwan, and yet you believe it's part of China. It's a very odd mindset. I can bet if Taiwan were the same size as China is today, you wouldn't dare to call it one China. In fact, if China were small in size, everyone could start calling one taiwan. you see, it's all about bullying.
August 22, 2008 12:22 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 22, 2008 00:22
To Yang,
---"Anonymous" is a 50 fen---
Stop acting you are a Chinese.
It is not 50 fen, Chinese call it 5 Jiao, or 5 Mao.
You only have a Chinese name, but you are just another American.
And go learn some your own history, stop mingling with real Chinese.
August 22, 2008 12:02 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 22, 2008 00:02
Guys, Your really win, your drive Mr. Pomfret to write in Chinese in order to get your understanding, in order to get your stop from insulting him and his family.
After all, Pomfret is a westerner working for the Washington post. Do you expect him to write like a CCP? Think about there are so many critics about Lang Ping when she came back with her American Volleyball Team, Couldn't you give Mr. Pomfret a break as well?
I once left the blog for a long time because of an Anonymous, I don't want to see the blog end up closed because of another Anonymous. We all are here because we interested in the topic, if you don't like it, you can go somewhere else where you can fully enjoy yourself, there are plenty of website praising China for the whole day. If you got objection to Mr. Pomfret's writing, just defend yourself, but please don't turn yourself to be an ugly man. Nobody welcome you here.
If you can't understand English well, he wrote in Chinese already, please read carefully.
John Pomfret:
朋友们,
这篇稿子是我自己写的。另外,稍微尊重一下人家的家庭和家人等等,好吗?大家上这个网的原因很简单:我们有个共同的兴趣:中国和她的未来。没必要侮辱人家,也没必要显出丑陋的美国人或者丑陋的中国人的行为。 谢谢
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PS: Mr. Pomfret, I guess u missed writing this in Traditional Chinese, "約漢綁匪 &鬼子" were written in Traditional Chinese, which seldom see the 鬼子 when referring to Westerners in Simplified Chinese.
August 21, 2008 10:25 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 21, 2008 22:25
To Yang,
Why I like CCP?
No, I don't?
But I love China, that's all.
whether my government is bad or good, I don't want others to use her weakness to separate China and disrespect my people!
Today, CCP on top, tomorrow other party is on top, but what we receive from our history should not be changed.
We Chinese defend us with all our might.
I personally want CCP to be a democracy system, but I disallow anyone to divide China.
August 21, 2008 7:42 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 21, 2008 19:42
"Anonymous" is a 50 fen, translated into english that means 50 cents. Meaning people who are hired by the CCP to comment on websites in order to keep the positive image of the CCP and their gov.
August 21, 2008 7:35 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 21, 2008 19:35
---朋友们,
这篇稿子是我自己写的。另外,稍微尊重一下人家的家庭和家人等等,好吗?大家上这个网的原因很简单:我们有个共同的兴趣:中国和她的未来。没必要侮辱人家,也没必要显出丑陋的美国人或者丑陋的中国人的行为。 谢谢
Friends,
I wrote the Chinese post myself. Also, try to be a bit more respectful. There's no need for random insults or stray comments about people's family members. OK? We're all hear because we're interested in China and her future. So there's no need to insult one another or play the ugly American or the ugly Chinese. Thanks!-----
To John Pomfret,
After you disrespect my nation, wrote your own opinioned report about China Taiwan Tibet, and stir up all those hurting comments, and I wrote disrespectfully about Dalia and called your bandit name, and you feel hurt?
I offend you, your family, it only hurts you and your family,
But call Chinese and China invade Tibet, and divide Taiwan and China,
you f hurt all the Chinese, and China, now you want to be respected?
You American only care about yourself, and how you not to respect Chinese belief?
Do not you know that we respect our nation more than our own family?
You may call me I F my mom, but you only offend me; and it is easy to forgive you.
But how dare you write to support Dalai and Taiwan?
How many people's life would effected by your disrespect of China's One Nation's belief?
Now you feel that I do not respect your family and Dalai's, but what about my family? China!
China!?
Do you respect MY FAMILY? OUR FAMILY?
You want me respect your family?
You first respect my FAMILY?
I will not forgive you unless you change your attitude toward Chinese belief 'One China'.
Besides, you American call this Free Speech, Freedom, Human Rights!
August 21, 2008 6:27 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 21, 2008 18:27
There seeming to be a lot of fear and anxiety in the west as to regard where will China go from here on. The Chinese themselves aren't very sure either. China wants to play a leading role in the world, but catching up is different from leading the world.
After 500 years of deep slumbering, while the west took over the center stage, I believe the Chinese are rusty in "what to do" or "how to do it" in the world arena.
I hope this little poem I wrote will help.
《观北京奥运有感》
颜敏球 作
"Reflections after Watching the Olympics Opening Ceremony in Beijing"
By Michael Ngan
古国神洲, 巨龍騰空, 飞翔在天。
Tonight, the Middle Kingdom sleeps not, the Dragon is in the air.
回首百年来, 不禁泪下;
Looking back the last hundred years, tears flow down the cheeks;
今举国上下, 一片欢騰。
Happy now, the whole country rejoices.
神龍再现, 举世震驚, 不知是吉还是凶。
The Dragon awakes, but the World is disturbed; what does this omen portend?
平天下, 须参照聖王的心法, 天之命也。
To pacify the world, study the classics of the Sage Kings; these are words from Heaven.
从前如此多难, 皆因失德而不知道。
Remember, humilation upon humilation, all because the Virtue was lost, and the Way, forgotten.
协和万邦, 开创万世之太平;
Be the leading nation of the world, establish the eternal Peace that will last a ten thousand generations.
以民为上, 建设和谐的社会。
Place the people first, strive to create a harmonious society.
东西将合壁, 天下成一家。
East and West shall come together, the World will be united as One.
俱往矣,万国来朝, 而不忘故耻。
All has passed now, enjoy the honor and glory to come, but don't forget the lessons learned.
August 21, 2008 2:41 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 21, 2008 14:41
朋友们,
这篇稿子是我自己写的。另外,稍微尊重一下人家的家庭和家人等等,好吗?大家上这个网的原因很简单:我们有个共同的兴趣:中国和她的未来。没必要侮辱人家,也没必要显出丑陋的美国人或者丑陋的中国人的行为。 谢谢
Friends,
I wrote the Chinese post myself. Also, try to be a bit more respectful. There's no need for random insults or stray comments about people's family members. OK? We're all hear because we're interested in China and her future. So there's no need to insult one another or play the ugly American or the ugly Chinese. Thanks!
August 21, 2008 2:19 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 21, 2008 14:19
His wife is Chinese - I believe.
How do you like this one?
China fakes Olympics, America fakes everything:
http://blog.chinationreport.com/2008/08/20/china-fakes-olympics-us-fakes-most-everything/
August 20, 2008 10:01 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 22:01
Translated From Chinese to American (not English) @ 12:53PM,
"Approximately Chinese kidnapper gentleman ﹐ This splits two countries compared to a `language ' " Progressed are many! I looked the tear is suitable the buttocks class ﹐ bean to hit resembles. If you did not practice the fission ﹐ are also the Chinese. Stands up the applause!
August 20, 2008 5:36 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:36
Translated From Chinese To American (not English) @ 9:45PM
"Thanks edition report. Our Chinese is a vicious, but with the American is the same, is the human on the vicious. We do not well are should obtain the criticism, what but is indignant was we have done that many to greet you, and let Olympic Games successfully holds, why haven't you seen?
Has not seen also, but asks you to remember, discusses any Xinjiang in the Chinese common people, Tujue, does not have any good fate, but also has the human rights question, the ear left the callus. Does well oneself country first, only then has standpoint tube other country other people's business. Not right?
According to certain person's viewpoint, only if the US operates the tank to bring the army to advance China directly, otherwise the Chinese human rights no way to do something, the Chinese very quickly is suffered until death, I listened to think pitifully.
Because I thought what certain people said is other country. Therefore objective, good are good, is not good is not good, really could not master you are too has been all day idle, did not find fault to China is uncomfortable. Ya · · · · · i clothing
August 20, 2008 5:33 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:33
Translated From Chinese To Americanm (not English) @ 11:31PM
"Not too clear this culture, in the world also many other matters need them to worry, not right? Has ability words, should not hit the weaponry to these, should not starve the child, should not die the human does a matter, said that words are not good? Because the right limits, what human rights can only to Chinese, Tujue (really a little look like history), what commentary makes that?
According to normal person's idea, no matter matter is in itself to is wrong, since matter's experience has not made the complaint, what standpoint stays out to have to say this and that?
Moreover, the matter simply has not undergone the investigation, probably very much owes flatly, did not understand that respects the human to understand the person the fellow in the speech. They should study study, is not this such culture, but is true comes China to understand that common people's life, only then has the right to speak.
Do not say that all day did not know the so-called words offend somebody, just started was mad very much, ha-ha, afterward unexpectedly thought that is very funny. Is the feeling which one kind does very much smiles · · · ·
August 20, 2008 5:29 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:29
Translated From 1:59AM, Chinese to AMERiCAN (not English)
"Not too clear this culture, in the world also many other matters need them to worry, not right? Has ability words, should not hit the weaponry to these, should not starve the child, should not die the human does a matter, said that words are not good? Because the right limits, what human rights can only to Chinese, Tujue (really a little look like history), what commentary makes that?
According to normal person's idea, no matter matter is in itself to is wrong, since matter's experience has not made the complaint, what standpoint stays out to have to say this and that? Moreover, the matter simply has not undergone the investigation, probably very much owes flatly, did not understand that respects the human to understand the person the fellow in the speech.
They should study study, is not this such culture, but is true comes China to understand that common people's life, only then has the right to speak. Do not say that all day did not know the so-called words offend somebody, just started was mad very much, ha-ha, afterward unexpectedly thought that is very funny. Is the feeling which one kind does very much smiles · · · ·
August 20, 2008 5:27 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:27
Translated From 3:03Am; CHiNESE To AMERiCAn (not English):
"I reply: "" I reply: 1st, gymnastics member's age looks like is truly young, but uncertain not to age. Has a look at that earthquake child you to know that Chinese's age looks like differently. 2nd, Lin Miaoke performs, behind matches sings. The Chinese has not concealed, in many movies also uses dubbing.
Where was wrong? 3rd, the Han Nationality children act the national child. This is the performance, what question has? In the American movie performs the murder the situation to be many, real murder? 4th, the ticket has sold-out, vacant place! - we also very much have doubts. The diversity is sensitive, looks like me to be very strange you the tip system, puts on a show with performing bears likely, moves, must reward immediately eats, otherwise no longer performed. We need first to communicate, whose discusses again to the mistake.
August 20, 2008 5:24 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:24
Translated From @ 5:56AM: Chinese To AMERiCAMN (not English):
Plants flowers dirtiest place:: Irene, hello Do not forget me is " Put aside badly does not say " , I am only pointing out a little the cultural value part. Simultaneously I also dislike this kind of " Lofty vixen " Type culture. Other please read my yesterday's poem. This involves westerner's history and the moral question. China is because of from 54 to Great Cultural Revolution, now holds Olympic Games for the westerner, only then brings contempt upon oneself. (you have not also taken Western name).
But westerner's response also happen to lets us understand their mind personality quality. Just like you said that they care about the humanity truly by no means. Colonizes, slavery, Nazi…Only then how many year ago matter? But the westerner impossible hand to obstruct the day, they have controlled the media, only then creates the false appearance which the world unanimously.
The just comfortable will of the people, the African, and even US territory's black, the Australian aborigines are the fools? Caucasian's marketplace act is the performance which actually the energetic culture declines. Actually they are the human who must save. Some westerners understand this, what a pity they are unable with the compatriot who deceives oneself and others to compare.
Dalai becomes famous in the West is precisely because of westerner's energetic difficult position. Dalai is not very what a pity chaste, the westerner lacks self-respect, changes in form but not in content.
August 20, 2008 5:20 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:20
ooopps. The Translation From Chinese To American is From: 9:48AM
August 20, 2008 5:16 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:16
Translated From Chinese (Cantanse/Mandarin) to AMERiCAN (not English):
"May write the such splendid Chinese surprised in Mr. John Pomfret, looks like me to understand completely the John Pomfret English original text's original intention, has looked like me to need mistakenly to raise my English proficiency. But
I have been raising English proficiency diligently, the people are also raising English proficiency, but I am very puzzled, why doesn't the westerner try to raise Chinese understanding level, if like this, we might share the Eastern five millenniums with the West the civilizations. If understands the Eastern civilization by westerner's thought that perhaps will have the new thought spark, perhaps will erupt the unequalled strength.
I have thought China is doing is: Educates under the raise with the modern West the thought that understands and carefully examines the Eastern culture, found belongs to the truth thing. The Chinese these years's development might say that profits from West's theory, deducted China's way. May take care of oneself for the Chinese, time are many we are unable the thought format which gets rid grows ingrained. Therefore
I have hoped Mr. John Pomfret is such one kind by westerner's angle of view, can understand the Eastern culture human. But, to John Pomfret, I has been very since puzzled. He understands the Chinese as if very much, understood as if very much after the Chinese modern age is Great Cultural Revolution's this past events specially, but I always thought that has been short anything.
I always thought that Mr. John Pomfret, does not have completely the understanding Chinese, had not understood that completely the Chinese culture - - always looks like an observer, drifts away between China and the West, sometimes criticizes the West, sometimes criticizes China, actually such does not look like that kind to be able to control two cultures, refines the good thing, splendid thing person.
A little looks like the American always unceasing critique, criticizes this, criticizes that actually cannot propose that the powerful viewpoint, supports. The critique goal is to summon the truth, is not to criticize criticizes. If your real start understands the Eastern culture, you will discover this ancient culture by no means only then the incorrigbility and backwardness, it will also have one kind of vitality, one kind of explanation ancient Pu world truth wisdom.
Is only present many people have not gone to understand truly.
August 20, 2008 5:15 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:15
Att: A N O N Y M O U S @ 10:02Am:
Translated from Chinese To English (amerivan)
Dalai becomes famous in the West is precisely because of westerner's energetic difficult position. Dalai is not very what a pity chaste, the westerner lacks self-respect, changes in form but not in content.
Dalai it mother's question is it wants autonomous to split Tibet ﹐ it using the religious question to use the Western ﹐ West to use it. Their goal same ﹐ splits China.
August 20, 2008 5:11 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:11
Att: A N O N Y M O U S @ 10:14am
Translated from Chinese to english:
---But I have been raising English proficiency diligently, the people are also raising English proficiency, but I am very puzzled, why doesn't the westerner try to raise Chinese understanding level, if like this, we might share the Eastern five millenniums with the West the civilizations.
If understands the Eastern civilization by westerner's thought that perhaps will have the new thought spark, perhaps will erupt the unequalled strength. --- What the westerner pays great attention is the benefit ﹐ is not the culture ﹐, if they pay great attention the culture ﹐ world to turn today this type? Do not forget ﹐ nearly in 2000 ﹐ the entire world is the West in the influence.
But China ﹐ never dispatches troops to foreign ﹐ only then us to invent with the cultural writing literature is gone by other ethnology.
August 20, 2008 5:08 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:08
Att: I R E N E @ 8:45Pm
Translated from Chinese to English says,
"Thanks edition report. Our Chinese is a vicious, but with the American is the same, is the human on the vicious. We do not well are should obtain the criticism, what but is indignant was we have done that many to greet you, and let Olympic Games successfully holds, why haven't you seen? Has not seen also, but asks you to remember, in the Chinese common people discussed that is assorted Xinjiang, Tujue, does not have is assorted the good fate, but also has the human rights question, the ear left the callus.
Does well oneself country first, only then has standpoint tube other country other people's business. Not right? According to certain person's viewpoint, only if the US operates the tank to bring the army to advance China directly, otherwise the Chinese human rights no way to do something, the Chinese very quickly is suffered until death, I listened to think pitifully.
Because I thought what certain people said is other country. Therefore objective, good are good, is not good is not good, really could not master you are too has been all day idle, did not find fault to China is uncomfortable. Ya · · · · · i clothing
August 20, 2008 5:05 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:05
"西方媒体到底了解不了解中国?"
As Translated, by Babil Fish, AltaVista .com sais,
"The western media understanding does not understand China?"
August 20, 2008 5:01 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 17:01
Irene
您完全高估西方文化了.
Pomfret 并不了解中国,了解也没用,因为他不尊重,他有他西方人的工作与目的.西方历史相对浅薄,只有其大学者才有可能把握中国的历史.中国人自己,包括大多学者也不了解.五四之后的历史切断了一切.中国人自我边缘化,以西方世界为世界(胡适,江泽民之流),失去了主人翁精神,现在之中国非精神之主中国,而是次中国.自我茫然的人谈不上学习别人,中西结合之类.看看上海,北京的别扭建筑就知道了.文化上自我补课才是刻不容缓的任务.
Anonymous
您说的正是达赖不够纯洁,西方人不自爱的地方.
August 20, 2008 4:55 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 16:55
GUANGDONG, China – Once the Olympic party is over, is China heading for an economic hangover?
Ben Schwall, for one, thinks the headache is already setting in for the country's seemingly unstoppable export machine.
"If you are a factory owner here, it’s not like you're being kicked around. Somebody has hit you over the head with a baseball bat," he said.
met Schwall on a recent visit to the southern Chinese province of Guangdong, where he buys decorative lights for a string of U.S. retailers. "It's the perfect storm," he told me. "You've got a drop in demand. Business stinks. At the same time prices are going up."
‘Perfect storm’
The "perfect storm" is being caused by the soaring price of oil and other raw materials, spiraling labor costs, and the appreciation in the value of China's currency against the U.S. dollar, as well as a sharp down turn in demand as the U.S. faces possible recession.
Factories are closing right across the region where China's export boom began, with the most pain being felt at the low end – lighting and shoe factories, for instance. One of the few businesses still booming is scrap metal, teams clearing the remains of shuttered production lines.
Dong Tao, the Chief Asia Economist at Credit Swisse, just across the border in Hong Kong, calls it the end on an era of ultra-cheap Chinese exports.
"We expect that in the next three years, one third of Guangdong's manufacturing export factories will be closed down," he told me.
There are tens of thousands of factories here. If China is the workshop of the world, then this is its engine. A third of China's exports come from Guangdong, feeding the world's insatiable appetite for everything from shoes to lights to electronic goods.
"The entire world had the impression that the happy party of very cheap Chinese goods could last forever," Dong said. "I thought that. But I think perhaps its coming to an end."
The oil price affects the cost of production, but also the cost of shipping raw materials to China and then shipping the finished product to the U.S.
Cheap labor drying up
China's limitless supply of young cheap labor seems to be drying up too. The minimum wage in Guangdong has doubled in three years, and now stands at around $120 a month. With overtime, workers are taking home more than $200 a month.
The one-child policy is beginning to slow the supply of nimble-fingered young women, favored by the factories. And the new generation of migrant workers from the countryside are more choosy about work – and more savvy.
At one big street side labor market, young migrants work their mobile phones, comparing wage rates between factories. A new labor law has given them more muscle, especially since – to the consternation of factory owners – the government seems determined to enforce it.
Labor turnover is running as high as 75 percent annually at some factories.
‘No profit!’
Many of the factories in this region are owned by Hong Kong and Taiwan entrepreneurs. Men like Philip Cheng, whose company, Strategic Sports, is one of the biggest manufactures of crash helmets, bemoan the sharp downturn. "We don't have any profit now. No profit!" he told me, as helmets snaked along on the conveyor belt behind him, workers pasting on the visors. "The days of cheap labor have gone. No cheap labor. OK?"
Down the road, Dongguan Shan Hsing Lighting has just moved into a new factory, but is now operating at fifty percent capacity. It’s been hit by the crisis in the U.S. housing market, its biggest customer. The company's president, Tim Hsu, said profits have dried up.
"With constantly rising prices, we have to raise our quotes to survive. American consumers will have to pay higher prices," he said.
Dong at Credit Swisse agreed."Watch out," he said, "the prices in Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Motorola, they're going up."
Other factories are chasing lower labor costs elsewhere. Dong told me forty percent of factories he surveyed recently are looking to move – either to inland China, where costs are less, or out of the country.
Cheng of Strategic Sports is looking at Vietnam, where labor costs are now around half of those of China; Schwall, the lighting buyer, is planning a visit to India.
For Schwall, there's another headache. His company, Aliya Intenational, also monitors quality, making sure manufacturers aren’t cutting corners in the production process or using sub-standard or dangerous materials, a task made all the more important following last year's spate of product recalls.
He said that even before the latest surge in costs, factories were operating on wafer-thin profit margins, and now some may be more tempted to take short cuts as a way of cutting costs.
"The devil is everywhere," he told me as he examined the fittings on an elaborate chandelier he'd plucked from a busy production line. "And of course there is temptation."
He said he feels much happier when the factories he's dealing with are at least making some money, since the temptation to cut corners then is not as great.
What does it mean for China Inc?
All of which begs the question of what this means for China Inc. The pain seems most acute in the export manufacturing heartlands of the south, and doesn't appear to have yet dented China's overall growth rate, which remains above 10 percent – though many economists are skeptical about the accuracy of the official figures.
The Chinese media has carried stories pointing to a slowdown, but they have tended to follow the official line of keeping bad news off the presses during the Olympic Games. Officials in Guangdong have also played it down, describing the closures as just a normal transition away from low-end production, of the kind that took place in Taiwan, Korea or Japan. Which may well be good in the long term.
The problem is the meltdown is happening so quickly. The head of the Hong Kong Small and Medium Enterprise Association, whose members are big investors, warned in late June that 20,000 of the 70,000 Hong Kong-owned factories in Guangdong could close this year. He said the region is no longer competitive.
Economic ups and downs are not new to the rest of the world, but China has known little but boom for nearly thirty years. Breakneck double digit growth has become the norm. No other major economy has grown like China over that period.
Moreover, China's communist leaders, presiding over one of the world's most rapacious capitalist economies, have traded on their ability to deliver economic growth to dampen demands for political change.
The massive Olympic rebuilding – with its $40 billion price tag – also provided an economic stimulus, which will soon be over. The Games have given a big "feel good" lift to Chinese, about what they've achieved and where they are going.
This, and the seemingly unstoppable boom, have set expectations very high about the future, which could make a post-Olympic economic slowdown all the more difficult to manage.
August 20, 2008 11:45 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 11:45
---可是我一直在努力提高英语水平,国人也都在提高英语水平,可是我还是很困惑,为什么西方人不试着提高中文理解水平,如果这样,我们将可以和西方分享东方五千年的文明。如果以西方人的思维重新理解东方文明,也许会有新的思想火花,也许将爆发无与伦比的力量。---
西方人注重的是利益﹐
不是文化﹐
如果他們注重文化的話﹐
世界會變成今天這個樣嗎?
別忘了﹐近于2000年﹐整個世界都是西方在影響。
而中國﹐從未出兵境外﹐只有我們發明與文化文字文學被其他民族學去。
August 20, 2008 10:14 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 10:14
达赖在西方出名正是因为西方人的精神困境.可惜达赖不够纯洁,西方人又不自爱,换汤不换药.
达赖它媽的問題是它想利用宗教問題自治分裂西藏﹐
它利用西方﹐西方利用它。
它們的目的相同﹐就是分裂中國。
August 20, 2008 10:02 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 10:02
惊讶于John Pomfret先生可以写出这样出色的中文,看来我完全理解错了John Pomfret的英文原文的原意了,看来我需要提高我的英语水平了。
可是我一直在努力提高英语水平,国人也都在提高英语水平,可是我还是很困惑,为什么西方人不试着提高中文理解水平,如果这样,我们将可以和西方分享东方五千年的文明。如果以西方人的思维重新理解东方文明,也许会有新的思想火花,也许将爆发无与伦比的力量。
我一直觉得中国在做的就是:用现代西方教育培养下的思维,重新理解和审视东方文化,从中找到属于真理的东西。中国这几年的发展可以说就是借鉴西方的理论,演绎中国的方式。可惜身为中国人,很多时候我们无法摆脱根深蒂固成长起来的思维定式。所以我一直希望John Pomfret先生是那样一种以西方人的视角,能理解东方文化的人。
可是一直以来,对John Pomfret,我很困惑。他似乎很了解中国人,似乎很了解中国现代特别是文化大革命后的这段往事,可是我总是觉得少了什么。我总是觉得John Pomfret先生,没有完全理解中国人,没有完全理解中国文化——总是像一个旁观者,游离于中国和西方之间,有时批评西方,有时批评中国,却这么都不像那种能驾驭两种文化,从中提炼出好的东西,精彩的东西的人。有点像美国人总是不断的批判,批评这,批评那,却不能提出自己强有力的观点,来支持对的。批判的目的是为了呼唤真理,不是为了批判而批判。
如果你们真的开始理解东方文化,你们会发现这种古老的文化并非只有劣根性和落后性,它还有一种生命力,有一种解释古老普世真理的智慧。只是现在很多人都没有去真正理解。
August 20, 2008 9:48 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 09:48
Irene,您好
别忘了我是"撇开坏的不说",我仅在指出有点文化价值的部分.同时我也讨厌这种"崇高的泼妇"式的文化.其余请读我昨天的诗.这涉及西方人的历史与道德问题.
中国是因为自五四至文革,现在又为西方人办奥运,才自取其辱的.(您自己不也取了个西方名字吗).但西方人的反应也正好让我们了解他们的心灵人格素质.正如您说,他们并非真正关心人类.殖民,奴隶制,纳粹...才几年前的事?
但西方人不可能只手遮天的,他们控制了传媒,才造成全世界众口一词的假象.公道自在人心,非洲人,乃至美国本土的黑人,澳洲土人是傻瓜?白人的市井行径其实是精神文化衰落的表现.其实他们才是要拯救的人.有西方人明白这点,可惜他们无法与自欺欺人的同胞相比.达赖在西方出名正是因为西方人的精神困境.可惜达赖不够纯洁,西方人又不自爱,换汤不换药.
August 20, 2008 5:56 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 05:56
《〈包括中国体操队员年龄的问题,北京空气污染,林妙可假唱的事,汉族小孩假扮少数民族小孩上开幕式,票卖完了但是赛场空的奇怪现象等等〉》
我来回复:
1, 体操队员的年龄看起来确实小,但不一定未到年龄。看看那个地震孩子你就知道,中国人的年龄看起来不同。
2,林妙可表演,后面配唱。中国人并没有隐瞒,很多电影里也用配音。哪里错了?
3,汉族小孩扮演民族小孩。这是演出,有什么问题吗?美国电影里演出杀人的情况很多,真的杀人吗?
4,票卖完了,空场!- 我们也很疑惑。
不同点是敏感的,就像我很奇怪你们的小费制度,像耍狗熊,动一动,立即就要奖励吃的,否则就不再表演了。
我们需要首先沟通,再讨论谁的对错。
August 20, 2008 3:30 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 03:30
不太明白这种文化,世界上还有很多别的事需要他们担心,不是吗?有能力的话,对那些不该打的仗,不该挨饿的孩子,不该死的人多做点事,说点话不好吗?还是由于权利所限,只能对中国什么人权啊,突厥啊(真有点像历史),发表那个啥的评论?依正常人的想法,不管事情就本身来说是对是错,既然事情的经历者都没有发表怨言,置身事外的有什么立场说三道四呢?而且,事情都根本没经过调查,就好像一个很欠扁,不懂得尊重人理解人的家伙在说话。他们应该学学,不是这样那样的文化,而是真正的来中国了解百姓的生活,才有发言权。别整天说些不知所谓的话伤人,刚开始是很气,呵呵,后来竟然觉得很好笑。就是一种很搞笑的感觉·····
August 20, 2008 1:59 AM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 20, 2008 01:59
Irene,
开始我也对西方人的行为大感困惑.他们怎么老钻别人裤裆?慢慢才有点了解.撇开坏的不说,其实是文化原因:基督教的独尊意识和狭隘,一厢情愿的使命感,所谓 Do to
others what you like to be done to you, 即,己所欲,施于人.与儒家的己所不欲,勿施于人,态度相反. 其实就是逼人接受好东西的意思.又因为独尊意识,好坏也由他们来定.
其次就是希腊文化的线性思维,即认死理精神.咬住个概念,不反省,不修身.在华人看来便是恶人先告状的德性.
Pomfret 说是制度之争,其实是文化之争.我们现在看到的正是西方文化的性情.
August 19, 2008 11:31 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 23:31
感谢编辑的报道。 我们中国人是有缺点,但和美国人是一样的,是人就有缺点。我们做的不好是该得到批评,但气愤的是我们做了那么多就为了迎接你们,并且让奥运成功举办,为什么你们没看到?没看到也就罢了,但请你们记住,在中国老百姓中谈什么新疆,突厥,没什么好下场,还有人权问题,耳朵都出老茧了。先搞好自己国家的,才有立场管别国的闲事。不是吗?依某些人的观点,除非美国开着坦克带着军队直接开进中国,不然中国人权没戏了,中国人就都很快被折磨至死了,我听了都觉得可悲啊。因为我以为某些人说的是别的国家呢。所以客观些吧,好就是好, 不好就是不好,真是搞不懂你们是不是整天太闲了,不给中国挑刺就不舒服。哎·····i 服了 you
August 19, 2008 9:45 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 21:45
impressive.
now tell us the truth, you had your wife polish it, didn't you? :P
August 19, 2008 9:04 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 21:04
One must distinguish truths from facts.
western reporters may still report some facts (and some lies), but by selecting and organizing facts, they can generate false truths. See the facts below:
USA has the highest prison population in the world.
Many fathers rape their daughtors in USA.
Many gun shootings on USA high school campuses.
etc. etc...
Those selective facts do not convey the truth of USA.
IF western reporters apply their tricks on China instead on USA, they will make people believe:
All americans are criminals.
All american fathers rape their daughtors.
All american high schoolers are murderous...etc.
August 19, 2008 6:48 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 18:48
Below is a poem I put up in Zakaria's site for China bashers there. Zakaria himself is OK. Unfortunately there are more Pomfrets than Zakarias. Indeed, 羅馬豪情安在哉, 今日淪為罵街婦! The Romans have lost their guts...
洋記者在京
Western Reporters in Beijing
西洋浪子來中土
Those western loafers come to the Middle Earth
先祖殖民奴隸主
Some descended from colonists, some slave traders
言語未通不肯學
Without a will to learn the host's language
耳目奮張頻四出
With swelled ears and eyes spread out about
不似蜂兒似蒼蠅
They resemble flies more than bees
遺香搜臭愛穢污
Abandoning sweet flowers but search for filth
搜臭它國賣在家
Collecting filth abroad sell at home
供求相好無饜足
This Supply-Demand loves no end
謊言燦燦似鳳凰
Their lies, shiny as phoenix
心意靡靡卑于鼠
Their hearts, dull as mouse
不助和平助分裂
Not to bring peace but to divide
八國聯軍真其父
Those cut "the Chinese melon" were their fathers indeed
真龍天子失王座
The throne lost the Dragon of Heaven
四野稱王狼與虎
Those self-crowned kings in the wild were wolfs and tigers
五洲搜掠無空隙
They robbed all five continents without an inch spared
百年殺戮千萬數
For Hundreds of years saw the killings of the tens of millions
百族白骨埋土中
The bones of countless races, buried deep in the continents' soils
血債累累厚于土
The blood debts, thicker than the soils that buried the dead!
今日殺人用人權
Today they kill in name of Human Rights
戰爭示威其二術
War and Protest, the two of their tools
文明沖突何所憑
With What they deserve a "clash of Civilizations"?
麥當娜加牛仔褲
With Madonna songs and Cowboy jeans?
上國重臨天地間
Between heaven and earth the high culture returns
以直報怨世所殊
Answering evil in good is her rare way
群丑怕見中華興
Their gang fears the rise of her Middle Kingdom
小人心度君子腹
The base measure the lofty with their small minds
謊言若毒謠言煙
Their lies work like poison, their rumors smokes
霸道豈識王道恕
How should bandits understand the forgiving way of the King?
羅馬豪情安在哉
Where is the heroic air of the Romans
今日淪為罵街婦
For they all turned bashing street gals?
自家有病不問醫
If a sick man seeks no help from his doctor
詛咒他人能康复?
Can he heal by cursing others?
人心危危少忠笔
In fear their people are without an honest pen!
帝國沉沉無英物
In decline their empire is without a wise man!
還不驚醒快回頭
Time to wake! before their wrongs pass down their children
禍及子孫無哭處
And find no sympathetic places to shed tears!
August 19, 2008 5:41 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 17:41
其實中國人沒有美國人愛國。
來到美國多年後才知。
August 19, 2008 5:13 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 17:13
自然流畅。而且您的中文像是看多了台湾的综艺节目写出来的。
August 19, 2008 3:08 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 15:08
約漢綁匪先生﹐
難道鬼子還說人話?:)
August 19, 2008 3:06 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 15:06
Mr. Pomfret,
Many thanks for writing in Chinese. I wish this blog could help enhance the understanding between Chinese and American people.
However, I cannot agree with your assessment that the western media have not fabricated facts recently in their Olympics reporting. (西方媒体没有出现什么捏造事实的行为。)
1. As a Chinese expert, you probably know the ESWN blog and the fools mountain blog. Roland Soong posted a summary about how the facts of the lip sync incident were twisted by the media:
http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20080815_1.htm
http://blog.foolsmountain.com/2008/08/13/the-cruelest-insults
http://blog.foolsmountain.com/2008/08/12/an-imperfect-perfection
The problem is that many western reporters in China do not read or speak Chinese. They have not checked or do not care to check the facts – in this case, the video of the interview with the music director Chen Qigang.
2. I watched the opening ceremony on NBC on 8/8, they clearly said the 56 kids were from a local arts school in Beijing. Yes, it is debatable if the director made a wise decision but this is hardly news.
I am not trying to defend Zhang Yimou or other directors although I think overall they did a wonderful job. I do not think the western media have conspired to write negatively about China. They criticize their own governments too.
I can even understand it is the reporters’ job to sensationalize in order to sell papers. However, I do not agree that they have not twisted facts in reporting about China.
August 19, 2008 2:43 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 14:43
wow you used simplified
most westerners get taught traditional chinese by people who still think that you can still gain control of land by getting whooped losing a war and retreating to an island that is like 500 times smaller than the land you are trying to claim
August 19, 2008 2:37 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 14:37
u wrote this? somebody fixed it 4u?
ur chinese is pretty impressive.
August 19, 2008 2:31 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 14:31
wow
very impressive
August 19, 2008 2:29 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 14:29
比英语那篇更口语化,有意思
August 19, 2008 2:27 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 14:27
So the western journalist are OK in reporting facts, but bad at writing opinion and analytical pieces.
Since opinion and analytical pieces contains subjective judgment influence by individuals background, and therefore, no one can write better than I can, at least in my opinion, because only I can write something that can completely matches my own opinion. Therefore, I quite agree with you.
August 19, 2008 2:19 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 14:19
約漢綁匪先生﹐
這一篇比‘
一個語言分裂兩個國家’"
進步多了!
我看的眼淚順著屁股流﹐豆打似的。
你要是不搞分裂﹐ 也算是中國人了。
起立鼓掌!
August 19, 2008 12:53 PM | Report Offensive Comment
Posted on August 19, 2008 12:53