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A dangerous precedent is being set because other countries stand by while China systematically destroys the entire country, religion and race of Tibet. Tibet has already been figuratively destroyed by those countries who blithely remove Tibet from world maps to call it "China." Thus, in the ultimate human race for water, food and resources, China learns that it may fearlessly take whatever it wants.

Disaster tell the world what China is
the United States is the big countries, he said that China is a threat
Japan is the power, he said that China is a threat
India are neighbors, he said China is a threat
China is what » In an insult to the distortion of foreigners, dalai independence in the attack, no one can see a real China, no one really understands the Chinese people. Today, not this year, the world will have to understand China, China will have to see, not because of the Olympics, not because of the war, but from a series of disasters, so that the people of the world concerned about the disaster, the people of the world have experienced are not experienced the disaster.
Yes, China is a big country, is such a big country, in other countries to interfere in the internal affairs of the time just to condemn and legal resistance, in the face of humiliation and distortion when he was only demand an apology, the Chinese people to resist foreign enterprises unbearable when he was only Bite extraordinary calm, the looting of the torch, he will only let their efforts. However, the anger of the earth, he should not the people of the world the great Western powers of the Chinese nation when Bingmao he will not great nation was a great mind that the world is weak, he used the disaster to the Chinese test, to test the Chinese people, to tell the world What is China, what are the Chinese people, what is the Chinese People's Liberation Army!
Yes, China is such a, you have no right, in the face of disaster, the Chinese government will never yield, never weak and will never retreat, he would in the shortest possible time to make the fastest response! Flood Nanbu Dao, SARS Nanbu Dao, in the Olympic year snowstorm seismic upheaval it all Nanbu Dao! He is not human rights, he did not fail to pay attention to human rights, in the face of disaster you will see: In China, people are always the first one! Life will always be the first!
Yes, this is the Chinese people, you have no right, in the face of disaster, the Chinese people will not fallen and will never give up, they know love, they will do their all to work. It that the Chinese people in the corruption, you can believe that China's young people in the fall, but the catastrophe or disaster to the Chinese people see you in the face of the facts is the way young people because of the disaster to stand up, unite, not that they changed their heated moment in the heart of the unlimited dissemination to the warmth and light!
Yes, this is the Chinese People's Liberation Army, you have no right, in the face of disaster, the Chinese People's Liberation Army will appear in a world all the people can not understand the way, and they are not afraid of sacrifice, they do not include hard work, They all costs, they have only relief, now they will only relief, disaster told the world, was originally used to rescue soldiers, the military is used to protect its people from harm soldiers on the battlefield can not take weapons!
Yes, the world's people in the face of this series of disasters can not understand this country, has been in the understanding of this country. They do not know the world can have such a prime minister, they did not know the world has such a strong nation, they are not aware of such armed forces.
Yes, this is China, which is the embodiment of 5,000 years of civilization.
This disaster on the Chinese demonstrated in front of the world, the Olympic Games with the day the world will understand and look at the hearts of Chinese readers.
Pain in the Chinese dictionary is always equal to the force equivalent to unity.

Please don't just copy others.
You know nothing.
You don't know why chinese students beat the korean. They were only fighting back.
If somebody hit you on your face, I bet you will not fight back according to your words here, because you are coward, and you call it civilization.

This is exactly the sort of comments that renders (White) Australians as racist, and rightly so; well, that I mean, in this days, White men and the White Man often dismisses allegations or charges of racism out of hand ESPECIALLY when there had been acts or matters being racist. As in the case of the comment by a Mr Reverend Jeremiah Wright, how could you possibly write off the entire 5% (FIVE PER-CENT) of your own natural-born and naturalised citizens as non-persons (with no political rights)? Unless when being racist, of course!

The culture of Commonwealth of the Australian States & of Australia does represent every thing bad and the worst things, abuses and excesses of that of the English & the British State & England & the United Kingdom of Great Britain; and does it not? You tell me!

AND BEFORE INSULT TO INJURY, REMEMBER & NEVER FORGET THE CHINESE EXCLUSION ACT OF THE UNION OF THE AMERICAN UNITED STATES & OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

@ JUSTSOMELAOWAI

Canada burned down the White House, not that long ago, and the US is still friends with us.

Love,

another Laowai
(never a 'waiguo pengyou')

In Chinese, Friends (peng you) means the people has good relationship, know and understand each other. Being a friend, you can encourage, you can blame - you don't need to expect and ask for return. A good friend can prevent you from making mistake. While, providing help and expecting return, that is be partner (huoban).

When the U.S. has to endure Chinese warships sailing up and down the Mississippi and Colorado Rivers, forcing the U.S. government to allow Chinese businessmen to sell heroin openly in America; to permit Chinese Marxist "missionaries" to preach their ideology and set up communist studies centers throughout all of our cities, and finally, have groups of Chinese citizens everywhere who are subject only to Chinese law and exempt from American law...

And then, when average Americans are outraged by this and rebel against the Chinese occupiers, the Chinese army burns the down the White House and loots the Smithsonian, and after 100 years the Chinese tell our descendants to "forget about it, that's old history", perhaps our descendants will understand how the Chinese feel today when they consider themselves bullied and under attack from the west...

Westeners didn't know and undertand China, they don't and they won't..never.

Learn Chinese language, and learn it well.It helps, at least you won't make stupid mistakes...

Great job, John! I will translate and post this one of your article in boxun.com, an objective oversea Chinese website, a rare Chinese oddity that is not controlled by the seemingly omnipresent Communist.

Keep up your good work.

We thank you.

Some Chinese here demonstrated how hopelessly poisoned and brainwashed by the communist dictatorship. Don't forget also, some Chinese here are paid by the communist government to manufacture so called Chinese people's opinions. The only opinion they actually represent here is that of the totalitarian communist dictatorship because ordinary Chinese cannot even see this website. Whoever here intentionally confuse Chinese people with China's Communist Dictatorship, your souls are either stolen or sold to the communist devil.

The problem with journalists is that they have to write to make a living. They don't necessarily know all the facts or really understand the subjects they talk about. They grow up in a specific environment and are instilled whatever relegion they parents have. Once they get into this profession their mindset is basically fixed - a banana always smells like a banana. That's why you can play a game called "read the article and guess who wrote it". A person's article is like a signature of a person.

Well what I wanted to say is this columist has no understanding about China what-so-ever and try to tell world leaders how to deal with/bash China. But to most people in the world, ever since US and company(including Australia) went on a slaughtering spary in Iraq five years ago, the slogans "Human rights", Democracy, Liberty, Freedom have all lost traction. Iraq was an US ally and the only democratic country in mid-east. Of course it got human right problems - only AFTER US dumped it as a friend!

Whether China has good or bad human right records is not the issue now. The issue is US wanted to do the same thing as it been doing for 50 years - make some trouble for the Communists, or whoever it's not in control. You never hear US say anything about the Saudi's - the most dictatorial government on earth.

Mr. John,
Have you ever study modern Chinese History? About the Opium War I & II, about the WWII? Did you know anything about the Mass Killing of Nanjing? It is not a matter of how many year you live in that country, is a matter do you live in with a purpose to pick on people's weakness or to really want to understand them and feel how they feel. I have been live in the US for about 15 years. I went to school and work here. Do I really think I know all about your culture. NOT at all, first, I am not interested in your only 200 years culture. But do I like some of the people here. Yes, I met a lot of very humble and passionate American who make me feel that I am welcome in this country. In return I try to understand your culture without Biases about western culture. Indeed, I love them like my own family. I am very offend that on you article that Chinese "expects will carry water for them and NEVER criticize them" I CAN RECALL WHEN WE WERE THIRSTY IN THOSE DARKNESS TIME THAT YOU AMERICAN OR ANY FOREIGNER BRING US ANY WATER, INSTEAD, YOU DIVIDED OUR COUNTRY TO 8 PARTS FOR ALL OF YOU TO SHARE. I BET NOT A LOT OF REAL CHINESE FRIEND YOU HAVE CAUSE THEY KNOW YOU SUCH A BS.

It's funny when someone's blaming China for the poisonous foods. Well, so many big firms has produced some products that accidentally contain poisonous ingredients. It happened in Japan, in the US.. everywhere in the world!

If you find a Chinese company exporting poisonous food to the US, then blame it, stop doing business with it. So what the heck did China do wrong?

Well, I do think there is toooo many differences between the east and the west. We have to work harder to understand each other, instead of pointing and blaming each other for their not understanding us.

Charles de Gaulle said, 'Great nations do not have friends, only interests.'

The following is my translation of the April 13 contribution by Zheng Min

I am a 41 year old Chinese engineer, living in Zhengzhou, Henan Province. This is the first time I am expressing my opinion about an article. I think the West should genuinely understand the true reality of China and make China a friend or partner and not an enemy. I feel China has made enormous progress in recent years in many areas so that the Chinese people do not appreciate others making indiscrete criticisms of their country. Is the West so perfect that it is qualified to lecture others? Sometimes I feel the West is quite hypocritical and mean, due to its prejudice and arrogance.

(Moniker can be translated as genuine guest)

@ MrsDocChuck:

I m Chinese. I didnt poison you. Some scum bag exporters from my country shipped sub-standard products to your country. CHINA DIDNT. I did not do that.
Your country has criminals too. Blame your country's democratically elected import examination officials (FDA)/Congressman/Mayors for not delivering their campaign pledges. Blame your country's scum bag importers for delivering poison/sub-standard products to your family.
It's simple as that. Use your right to defend yourself as we are doing our share here. Just dont scream at "China" which includes people like me.

First, let me qualify my question and my subsequent comments by the admission that my husband is NOT in favor of “globalism.” He thinks that the concept is VERY dangerous to the health and welfare to the citizens of the United States of America.

That being said, he is infuriated by the daily reports of China’s shipping of poisonous food and food-related products into the U.S. China has inundated us with poisonous products including pet foods, fruits and juices, vegetables, meat products, seafood, toothpaste, and God knows what else.

Many of our elected officials, who could not care less about our health, permit this travesty in the name of “open-trade” and “globalism.”

• So, what can we do to protect ourselves from China’s poisonous products?
• What are YOU doing to protect yourself?
• What suggestions do you have for the rest of us?

'"A strong relationship, and a true friendship," he told the students, "are built on the ability to engage in a direct, frank and ongoing dialogue about our fundamental interests and future vision."'

Ruddy knows Chinese history better, but still not good enough. He should know a real friend or 'zhengyou' needs to be always thinking about the good (long term for a zhengyou)for his friend, but I really don't think any politican could have such good heart. On this cold cruel world, interests are the only rule. Don't trust anyone except yourself. You need to be strong enough to defend youself before the self-called zhengyou from the western world.

That's also very true for Taiwan. Some stupid people from my country think our allies from the 'free world' will defend us when the communists attack us. How can they get this idea? They only use us to deter the mainland, nothing more than that.

ha,,ha,,
everybody can skim this post inside china. and now i am typing these words in the city Jinan, which sits several hundred miles southeast of beijing.
oh...via the band line at home now, and i often get on line for surfing at office too.

It is 1996, I telnet BBS the first time inside china. Ha. Always those command in English. Lynx….mail binary…or ascii. ….

At least you seem to speak english... Thats a start.

To the nut who says "The West wishes you the BEST of LUCK":

Stop this idiocy!

Yeah, i know. I'm such a mongoloid western supremacist!

Wow... Do you play with headless dolls too?

qinshonghua@yahoo.com.cn:

I am glad a citizen’s voice has finally broken through your iron curtain. Though I see you post from a Chinese Yahoo domain, I hope that all your anti-regime words do not get you into trouble there.

If you are working on a pirated uncensored internet connection to access this site, please take our well wishes close to your heart and know that the free people of this world DO support you in your cause for Human Rights. The new Chinese labor law is a GREAT first step in the right direction, so progress is finally being made there.

I hope you now do the smart thing and pack up your satellite phone and computer and move to a different location before someone from your government comes knocking down your door to re-educate you.

I look forward to future posts from you as you are able to safely set up your communication systems in that country.

Interesting article currently at "The Washington Post" website, "China's Emboldened Workers." Some foreign managers and owners of factories in China are trying to evade new laws or move their plants to other countries because they will be less able to exploit their employees as they have in the past. The new law, which has surprised reactionary business owners, gives major new protections to Chinese workers.

tebit isssure

Comments: am a chinese who wanna going to out side to tell what
feelings for the china government,though i still love china,but i hate this
government and have dispointed to her people especialy that
beruacracies,i have some thought that familiar with the tibetian,that is i have a
deepest disgusting to the this goverment because of :she didnot provide
the chance that fail to her people but totally a humanbeing eat
humanbeing enviroments,i want leave it if i can,i want challenge in a equality
society,please contact me if u see this words,best regard to you !i see the "tibet riots"
Your Comments: although am chinese,i really respected to tibetans,
espicially those people who have courage to stand out to strive their
right and freedom, what they had done seemed somehow released the
depressness that deeply hidded inside the mass chinese.

for reasons,maybe sorts of but one piece is the same.almost china
ordinary people are suffered and exploited by extremly unfair
supperstructure politic system and bureucracy based this system.

in china,the richest people can't avoid untached with this
bereucracies,almost prospective project can make money were grabbed by officers
who could take advantage of their power make themself rich first and
didn't take the coutry's interest into aacount at all.and this
upperstructure, which
organized the state,werenot made up by people that were elected by
equalitic completions but the majority of them
entring to work related by their old generation.

however, the ordinary population,who are called "people of the
people's repubic of china", are living on the substance of terrific
unequality and lakes the social security.....i see the "tibet riots"2
Your Comments: In search of whatever china news papers or internet, we
can easyly find out there are numorous civilians died or severe
injuried by government clerks every year.some of them just because of doing
business at street for living,some just because of their house site or
other proporty was conveted by government or profit relative realestate
companys whom was failed negotiate with, some just only have a little
offended with polices or governars.
there are another people were killed each year, or by business
conflicts,or cause power crave or political struggles,or even irritate resent
just by oppress subordinates......

Not mention the people who died related with government,more people
died in such an enviroments cotroled by government involved
robbing,rape,steal,gamble,prostitution,drug abuse,kidnap,illicit sexual
relations,trachery,bad triffic and facilities,mine accidents,being sick disable to
treat......we can heard or read in everywhere everyday,let alone those
people who suffered with lose
proporty,discrimilation,unemployment,unaffortable disk of disease,illicit child labour,nopayment work by
swindle or by force,lack of administred stock market traps,unreasonable
distributed tax and fees,undistinguished police bureau,inspect
institute,court......
such there cases are countless.......

in a word, this so called people's government is running for a few of
special classes but not for the masses cilvilian at all.

i hate this government and some of people lives in this substance.i
believe the people have this feelings like me in china absolutely arenot
a small number,that's part of reasons i prefer to support tibetans.i see the tibet riots (3)

In my youth year, almost enterprises in china wree state-owned, by now
almost of them had broke down except afew large company monopoly the
market by state force, forbidding or limiting other else oganizations
entering,but the situation of collaption and inefficiency of these
company's leadship and toilling masse's pitness is the same,the quility of th
masse's life wasn't get better because the continuous price rise always
offset the salary increaseness.

my father had worked at one state-oned backgroud enterprise for whole
life, after his retailment, his pensions werely could afford his
alive,he hardly get any money to look doctor during his strike period,he died
miserably at his 69 years old eventually because of lack treatment and
medicines.but during his alive,his only property-one old 60 square
metres house his previous leads distributed to his familly of 6 members.was
unresonable and by forced demolished by current leader ! colluded
with private business man,almost his collegues include us try to appeal
or bring a suit against them to government various deparments,but
eventually none of these departments give a practical responces like other
masses encounterd before......

Nevertheless,this various departments,when they charge the taxes or
other fees（which charged more and more alongwith year and year)from the
civilians,all did so cruel and greed like wolfes and tigers. i once was
telled pay high locative income tax when i runing a store, as an
accountant before, i knew this chage was far more aginst the county's law, but
when i asked the officer,he lost his temper and scold to me with foul
mouthed,at the end even threat to me said there was no reasons,or i
should pay it or they will seal my store.....

No need for reticence, the imagenations of almost governars are such
ugly,selfish and hertless, and hd deeply disdained by the masses in
china.....

To You are nothing but a pawn in chinese culture:

Do you believe in Human Rights? Yes? Good.
What do you do for your belief? Are you gonna come down to the capital of this "oppressive regime" and save us? No? Good.
What elso do you do beside "dabbling" in "politics"? ?? Good.
Dude, stop pretending that you know what you are staying. Go to a law school and learn what's rule of law and what's Human Rights.
What did you do to deserve this position on the "Moral Everrest"? Think about it, man. Only dont tell me the answer.

I used to work in CA. Never seen this much ignorance and bloated complacence. It's worse than some Chinese BBS for teens.

You want the world's respect? Lol.

To the NUT who says "You are nothing but a pawn in chinese culture":

You must be feeling a lot of pain. What did Chinese ever do to u??!!

John Pomfret, may I suggest a future topic for discussion. How about asking persons from the United States or other countries who have visited China for their insights about China and the Chinese people? This could potentially be a meaningful exchange among those who have actually been to China.

Model citizens to other Chinese maybe. To everyone else, you are rude, obnoxious and conceited and have no idea of what courtesy is… That is if I were to stereotype the Chinese in general like you have done to us.

They hardly protest because they have been trained not to. They fear being beaten and re-educated to the ways of your illustrious leader which is why they keep problems to themselves, not because they couldn’t use the help.

As for not dabbling in politics? What’s the point when you cannot voice your opinions for the same reasons above? Your idea of what works for you and what works for the world are in no way compatible if you expect people to take you seriously.

Since you are the minority in terms of influence on world culture, perhaps you should stop demanding things and blaming the “West” for all your problems and start listening to what your own oppressed people have to say. Stop wasting your time trying to convince us on blogs and use that time to convince your own government to enact certain basic rights for its own citizens…! If you even believe in human rights…. Do you?

The world is not ready to lower their standards just because an oppressive regime like China says so. Sorry to disappoint you.

To world-in-danger:

Are u nuts or racist? Chinese are model citizens anywhere in the world. They hardly protest and they keep their problems to themselves. Most Chinese just want to work for a good life, and don't dabble much in politics.

China, is still improving for the better, perhaps even towards democracy. But it must change slowly at its own pace, without anymore revolution and bloodshed.

If he had to go back to 7th century AD to find a word that best describes "Friendship" in the same manner as the West describes it in every day language, I can see why they are so distrusting of anyone other than their great leader.

They lost all concept of true friendship back then. Perhaps all these Chinese posters should go and read all about what it means to us in their own history books. Then apologize for misunderstanding all of us Americans that post in ENGLISH on our ENGLISH boards.

Then go crawl back in your hole and avoid us until we are done getting ticked off.

Australia despite its huge and empty landmass routinely send back refugees, and supported a cruel and unjust war in Iraq should not lecture China.

Australians are some of the most xenophobic people on the planet right behind the Russians and the Danes.

I don't think the issue of Tibet Independence should be off limit, even in China,as long as it is pursued in peaceful way. But I think people in the West should also know whom they are supporting, especially the Dalia Lama.
Dalia really is nothing but a very smart and charismatic politician. He occupies no higher moral ground than any other politicians in the world. If u need proof, just look at his stance on Iraq war. If u think John Kerry or Hillary are flip flop, Dalia is even worse.

PEACE SELLS, BUT WHO'S BUYING?

Courtesy translation, By: Comrades Of Space Ship earth et al, via Babel Fish.

For ZENGBIN @ 10:18AM Today.

"I am a Chinese engineer, 41 years old, in Henan Zhengzhou, this is my first time on an article expression view.

I thought the west should truly understand Chinese the realistic truth, should make China friend or partner, but is not the enemy.

I felt Chinese these years various aspects have all made the huge progress, including looks like I such ordinary Chinese is does not like the others gesticulating.

Western world very are really perfect, has the qualifications to teach the others?

My some times think the west very falsely, also very mean, the reason is the prejudice and is arrogant."

Aurelius: "Does anyone know where one can locate the original Chinese text version of the speech? A lot gets lost in translation."

I've been trying hard to... without success. Only bits and pieces, in Chinese, on YOUTUBE.

Anyone had more success? Would appreciate having links or the whole text reproduced here... assuming the owner of the blog does not keep it for his exclusive perusal.

Will advise were I to be more successful.

Regards and thank to all.

I am a chinese engineer ,41,in ZHENGZHOU,HENAN . This is my first time feedback an article.I feel westworld should learn the truce of in CHINA, should be friend or partner of CHINA,not the enimy of china .

我是一名中国工程师，41岁，在河南郑州市，这是我第一次就一篇文章表达看法。我觉得西方应该真正了解中国的现实真相，应该做中国的朋友或伙伴，而不是敌人。我感觉中国这些年来各方面都取得了巨大的进步，包括象我这样普通的中国人是不喜欢别人指手画脚的。西方世界自己真的就很完美，有资格教训别人吗？我有时候觉得西方很虚伪，也很卑鄙，原因是偏见和傲慢。

Why are my (inoffensive) posts being "Held by the (blog owner)" for two days now?? Who's in charge here?

QUESTION: "CAN THE WORLD MAKE FRIEND WITH CHINA?"

QUESTION: " CAN THE WORLD MAKE FRIEND WITH THE MONSTER? IT HARVESTS BODY-PARTS OF ITS OWN CHINESE TO MAKE MONEY?

QUESTION: "CAN THE WORLD COME TO PEKING TO SEE KILLERS WHO TORTURE, MURDER, IMPRISON, TERRORIZE THEIR OWN CHINESE LIKE A BORN-TO-BE SLAVES FOR COMMUNIST CHINESE VAMPIRES?"

QUESTION: "CAN THE WORLD COME AND DANCE WITH THE CHINA WHICH SMILES AND CARRYING A BAYONET IN ITS HAND READY TO DO HARM TO YOU AND EVEN ITS OWN CITIZENS WITHOUT HESISTATION?"

In summary, please stay away from the shadows of evil China and its murderous thugs!!! these animal-like cretures only born to exploit and create devastation to the world in general and their own chinese in particular!
these barbarous animal-like creatures prey on their own people the they will never pay attention on anyone else! it is true like: 1+1=2.

The world must stay away from the treacherous China and its terrible, lying chinese thugs for best protection on yourselves and on your next generations and your nation's future!!!!

'...at the same time, stop the screaming, with its hint of "Yellow Peril," racism and fear...'

If you wanna know China by yourself, not by some biased midias! Welcome to China, welcome to Beijing Olympic Games!

Courtesy Translation by : "Comrades [ZHENGYOU/Friends] Of SpaceShip Earth."

for: Chinese-People-True-Friends @ 7:37AM Today;

---- Translated from Simple-Chinese To-English vioa Babel Fish:

"Australian Premier Lu Kewen publishes at the abundant 鳌 Asian forum lectures on April 12, 2008 15:30:15"

"[ Australian Premier Lu Kewen ] extremely will thank the dragon forever to attempt gentleman, thanks respect president of PRC Mr. Hu Jintao, fellow state heads, the various countries' head, ladies, gentlemen, we all live today in the identical Earth village. This

is an extremely good forum, the East and the west can unify, because more and more globalization, any country other country has not had the influence to the world in, we adopt the behavior also is to our this world influential. This

not only is a national domestic challenge, also is the challenge which the whole world faces. The last week I visit American president, United Nations Secretary General, Europe commission chairman, English, French, Italian, South Africa's political head, then China, our good friend, is Premier Wen Jiabao, but also has President Hu Jintao. These

conferences all have a common subject, that is each country faced with they challenge, but they realize us to challenge must have to be supposed to, should to the global crisis. In

the middle of all questions, we thought the climatic change already became our core discussion the content, the climatic change was the biggest morals, the economic problem which the world faced. The

Australian government's starting point is, if to climatic change no matter what its development will not adopt moves we to pay the huge price, we will devote to establish a frame to come to be supposed to the climatic change. We

also must reduce our discharging, we must establish to discharge the highest limit. The Australian government hoped joins to the global endeavor, becomes the solution climatic change the country, but is not aggravates the climatic change the country, we all has the responsibility in this aspect, solves the climatic change through the global frame. We

have but have the difference together the responsibility, is the speech which said in the United Nations climate frame, said regarding the developing nation, possibly can have a better goal, has some other limits withdrawal the goal, this is possible to help to promote the sustainable development.

Further was reducing the felling also to have domain and so on forest degeneration, China already is at the leading position, China is increasing its forest 覆盖率. We

must build a platform, the technology solve this means most important part, we must think some means solution development technologies, no matter the whole world and the international goal are any, it must be can weigh, can investigate, moreover it must reduce discharges.

In Beijing, my isothermia family treasure premiers all agree with the acceleration in the climatic change aspect cooperation. The Australian environment organization already carried on the cooperation with China's friends, how can develop the new technology, this technology can reduce the withdrawal, I thought we have the very many technical question. But

we believed, also anticipates with China, US and other national positive cooperations. We must overcome the clean coal technology the challenge, we make the resolution and the pledge cause it through the more scientific research investment to become the reality, then becomes the commercial product.

China's state presidents once talked about science development view, already proposed a such scope, the economical development had to be extremely stable, if sustainable, was must reduce consumes energy and protects the environment. We must enter this science development view to us should to the climatic change scope. Finally

I must use Chinese to say several speeches. This year the abundant 鳌 Asian forum subject has contained two factors, first, we need the global cooperation; Second, the world will need a cleaner green the future.

I talk about in the Beijing University lecture, Australia devotes to becomes the Chinese genuine friends, a 铮 friend, carries on the constructive with China cooperation. We

also can also have the world with this area other partners together to face the challenge together, only has through pledged together and the unprecedented cooperation, we only then can realize in the climatic change question double win the result. Thanks everybody!

Sure 'K-Rudd' bravely mentioned (very delicately) that China needs to address the human rights issues in Tibet - why wouldn't he, he's got nothing to fear from China. China desperately needs Australia's coal, they're in the process of trying to buy a huge stake one of their iron ore businesses (BHP) and they're also after their uranium, all of which drives the massive engine room of their economy, now and into the future - it's China that should be keeping the Aussies sweet!

As for those of you disgusted by China's blatant human rights violations, just stop buying goods 'Made in China', they'll soon get the message.

Last word on K-Rudd's words; Total Blairism.

I believe in true peace, true friendship and true love. Don't believe the words of the Hu Clique.

Yonkers, New York
13 April 2008

Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd obviously assumes that Chinese rulers now, the 21st century, must still think in terms of words the Chinese used in the 7th.

If he does, he is terribly mistaken!

Of course, China's present leaders should be assumed to know the distinction between the words "friend" and "partner" as those words are used by Westerners now.

Thus, any time and every time Chinese leaders engage in dialogue or negotiations with their Western counterparts, they must be assumed to understand the words "friend" and "partner," when used by Westerners, precisely as those same words are understood by Westerners--and not as those words were understood by 7th-century Chinese.

Yes, Mr. Kevin Rudd's Chinese must indeed be that good. But let me assure him that modern-day Chinese no longer need to be instructed on the 7th-century distinction between "friend" and "partner."

Mariano Patalinjug
MarPatalinjug@aol.com

What do Gazprom (Putin) and Exxon/Mobil (Bush) have to do with China's Tibet crackdown? Oil and gas in Tibet. Lots of it. Why are they tacitly supporting China's crackdown? Well, does anyone really want to see a fully industrialized India in competition with China? For those familiar with India, the answer is obvious: no. So far, the TAP (Trans Afghan Pipeline) to supply India has been put on hold for years by fighting in Afghanistan and Pakistan--that's where the pipleline would have to run to supply India.) The rest is just silliness. The bottom line is that Western nations do not want to compete with a democratic capitalist Indian economy and there is no real fear of a Chinese economy because it is Communist--ideally suited for slave labor.)

A last thought. Last year I saw a movie called "Babel" which was starred by Brad Pitt, it's really a cool film. It depicted a real sad story which is caused by communication-disfunction. The newsstory about China and Xizang (Tibet)in western press is so different from what i saw and experienced. We try to persude eachother but just in vain. What surprised me is that some Tibeten activist even cannot point out the location of XIZANG on the map. Do they really care about the people living on that land? Maybe they care more about morally superority than anything. The Bible says God confused the language, causing them to speak different languages so they would not understand each other. By doing this, God thwarted the plan to build "stairway to heaven". Maybe love is the only key to the tower of Bable.

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your effort to underline any positive aspects of the Games is touching.

Don't worry Be Happy

Thanks for all you guys’ kindness to concern about humanrights here in China. But to a average people in China, we dont care which party is in power or wheather it is a communist party or a democratic party, the name of the party means nothing to us, what we do care is that wheather we can get a good job to improve our lives, wheather our kids can get into a good school, wheather my parents can get good health care,or wheather we can have a larger house...You can call me shortsighted, but what we really want is a calm , happy and improving life, not your democratic Utopian. Everyone has his(her)own Republica , but if we have to realize it at the cost of taking away all we have now, we may have the right to say "no".

TO Steamboater:
>>Many Chinese may be happy with so-called progress in China but it's something those people need to think about more. What dictatorships give, they can always take away. This is the rule of law that is China's tyrannical government. They give a little, piece by piece and then the people are happy with the crumbs they receive and think great progress has been made. (end of quote)

-- One obtacle between the parties in this much hyped "engagement/conversation" of the orient and the west is, like any newly in love/relationship, they dont know much about the lad/lass on the opposite end.
I hope you could trust me in saying that We (the Chinese people) are indeed "THINKING". Even the government you so despise are "THINKING". I also hope you would appreciate my sincerity in saying that a lot of the progress (of the benign kind) in China would not have materialized (so soon) without the pressure (criticism) from outside.
But I do want to point out a major factor that even apparently well educated people like you are, forgiving me for being blunt, ignoring: there are so many of us here in this vast country. If number itself is not convincing enough, I would also venture to say that the word "China" or "Chinese" (as some gentleman happily uses in their posts) enbodies a heterogeneous, diversified group. There are so many of us with different and sometimes diagonal immediate interest in this so called "economic boom". The balance of interests can be tricky and dangrous, considering that a great part of the population are well under poverty line and can not afford even the talk of 'rights' besides daily necessities. I m not an apologist of the government. It's just a sad truth. Changes can not be rushed. Time and patience is needed. I for myself learned this not through the easy way. To sum up, "China" means a lot more complicated than "human right problems" or "communist rulers" and "The Chinese" should be used carefully because as a collective noun it confuses important differences, just like "The Americans" or "The Muslims" does.
I have travelled my share of the world. I know people everywhere want good things to happen for their neighbours and themselves. I believe it's in our biological/social genes as mankind. I also know that things happen in their own ways. Just be patient.
Oh I m not saying you should "shut up" because you dont yet know China. On the contrary, I m replying because I m now joining the conversation/reasoning.

for me and many ordinary Chinese people, olympics is just a great party to be held in our home. we are elected to be the host, and eager to do our best to be a best ever host of this game, we bulit lots of magnificent stadiums,we try to improve our environment, even elderly people like my mom and dad who are in their seventies warmheartedly try to learn more english to communicate with foreigners, and be supportive ^-^.and my nephew who is a average student in college applied severally times to be a volunteer to do some service job for the tourist.
we are openning our arms to the world in the past 30 years, though we are still poor and we have a lot of problems, like our english:), but we still are trying, so give us a encouraging smile, not a up-stick nose.

Australia to China: Let's Be true Friends

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