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Many of the immigrants who came through Ellis Island were more skilled and their children more upwardly mobile than the native U.S. population at the time, unlike the vast majority of Mexicans who flood into our country now. Why can't we admit those whose skills we need, regardless of country of origin or skin color, like the Canadians do.

Struggling, working-class Americans whose jobs are threatened by globalization and an influx of unskilled laborers should be lectured on racism by an priviliged Mexican who probably grew up with all the advantages because???????

There were no "illegal" immigrants in the US until the Immigration Acts of 1921 and 1924. These acts were designed to keep out people like Senator Tancredo's parents. This same hysteria swept the country in the mid 19th century generating a party called the American Party or better known as the Know Nothings. They hated the huge influx of Irish and German Catholics coming to "steal" our American way of life. Funny thing is, these people and their descendents have made pretty good citizens.

Immigration will be viewed a hundred years from now much like the cause of slavery is viewed today. Our policies are an embarrassment to thoughtful people.
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http://thefiresidepost.com/2007/10/03/immigration-underground-railroad/

Instead of enforcing Federal employment and immigration laws, Republican neochristians in the US are more interested in demonizing Mexicans for political gain and to help their corporate contributors exploit cheap labor.

Unfortunately, Republican neochristians have an obsessive addiction requiring that they always have a common enemy du jour. This election, it's Mexicans (gays and Muslims as common enemies are so passe this year). Maybe it because their intelligence is limited and this the only way they can politically unite their own.

In the meantime, Mexico is extremely hypocritical when it comes to racism and discrimination. If the US treated Mexican immigrants like Chiapas, Mexico treats those from Guatemala and Central America, world opinion including the UN, the Red Cross and Amnesty International would be all over us.

Why are we missing the Elephant in the room? I think illegal immigration is unacceptable - BUT lets also ask who hires these illgal immigrants? Truth is we are all complicit. Obama put it nicely when he asked what do we think would happen if minimum wage in Canada were $100/hr.

In response to Brad's comment, who asked the author to "get real":
Brad, I challenge you to "get real" as well. Visit a Latin American village and speak with some people. You can inexpensively study at a language school in Latin America and stay with a family.
Anyway, what's lacking in this discussion seems to be a comprehension that current illegal immigrants share what most "legal" immigrants possessed, a desire for a better life for self and family. When my great-great grandfather boarded a Norweigian boat for the US, I doubt he thought much of legality, only doing the best for himself and those he loved. Please, try to see the other side.

I once asked on a board if our ancestors from Europe asked permission to land here and to take the land from the Indians. Someone posted: "what?, it wasn't illegal." That's laughable. The Indians wanted us to take their land? Neocons are a bunch of intolerant bigots. Live and let live.

I fail to see the diversity in turning the USA into another Third World country a Cesspool of Crime, ||Corruption, Poverty, Misery, and Cruelly like Mexico!

When both sides of my family immigrated to this country from Europe (yes, through Ellis Island), all they had to do was show up: there was no requirement for a visa and no expenditures, other than the cost of their transportation. That is still true for Canadians and for the most part Europeans who wish to immigrate to the USA. However, that is not true for our neighbors to the south.
Visas are required (and they cost money - a lot of money, in some cases) in addition to the cost of travel.
There is no parity in comparing Ellis Island to the current circumstance of would-be immigrees from the south.
The US has made a fortune out of charging admission from those south of Texas. It's good business for a variety of reasons.
My great-grandparents would have come here illegally if they had come from Mexico, central or south America in these modern times.
The US used to embrace diversity. Others were welcome to our shores - maybe that was the difference: you had to cross an ocean - like the founding fathers - in order to be welcome.

Actually, the US should be actively helping Mexico and encouraging liberalization of the Mexican market for investment and job creation. It should become easier for Mexicans to start their own business, and for foreigners to invest in Mexican businesses. That is the only real solution, which provides the enormous benefit of access to the Mexican market for American products.

But yes, I agree with the author that xenophobia and placing blame on the immigrants themselves is unworthy of the US and an extremely short-sided, ignorant policy.

It's far too easy for those of us with families who have lived here for a generation or two to forget that we are all illegal aliens. I don't recall Native Americans asking us to "discover" (i.e., invade) this country and take it over - killing so many of them in the process. Even understanding that dissolving all borders between countries isn't practical at this point - given the economic chaos that would ensue - how can we ignore the fact that as humans ("humane" seems to have slipped from our vocabularies), we have an ethical responsibility to help the rest of the people on this planet. Fences aren't the solution; understanding and compassion are.

A accurate background check would result in most of the Illegal Aliens in this country getting deported! Do not forget it should not only pertain to possible terrorist but to criminals. The most vicious gangs in American is Illegal Alien gangs like MS-13 that has started an ethic cleaning of Blacks in LA. Recent posting around the country calls for killing all blacks & gringos! Read the Manifesto of Al Raza (The Race)it is more racist org. existing in the USA they are very blunt in calling for the reconquesto of the American Southwest. In turn they also sbelieve everything for the brown race and nothing for the rest. Not surprising La Raza is taxpayer supported. Guess most of Politicians cannot read or maybe they are just pandering to the Latino vote. Hillary has the ex VP of La Raza as an adviser on her payroll. Coming across the border more than once is an felony as is forged documents, welfare fraud, stolen SS numbers etc. etc. All offenses American citizens would face fines and jail for committing.

Less face the truth Mexico has a official policy of offloading their Uneducated peons, criminals and other undesirables on the USA. They provide them documents and instruction in the form of funny papers (because many if not most cannot read) on how to avoid the border parole. How to get bogus documents and jobs in the USA. By off loading their uneducated peons, criminals and other undesirables on American taxpayers they avoid a revolution in Mexico and improve the standard of living while gaining billions in remittance back to Mexico. They play the race card very effective and appeal to the Compassion of American citizens. In the long run maybe the most effective thing we could do for Mexico is deport every illegal Mexican in the USA. After having lived here and getting used to the standard of living here if we send back the 12 to 30 million back to Mexico they would demand a better, less corrupt government. It may require an revolution there but the end results hopefully would be a better country! Mexico as countries go is rich there is no reason they cannot do a better job in caring for their citizens. Oh, also the best independent guess of the Illegal Aliens in this country was in 2005 it it was between 20 to 30 millions then and we have between 3 to 10 thousands pouring across our border every day since then. Heck you can find 12 million by just visiting the welfare offices and ER rooms! The action of Mexico and there Illegal Aliens is certainly serious enough for action on our part. Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan never invaded this Nation and killed, raped and robbed thousands of our citizens the way Mexico has.

Moe, you are a moron!

Someone on here has spoke of hypocrisy and racist feeling toward Mexicans. What I find is hypocrisy is thinking it is OK for Mexicans to ignore our Immigration laws but not others. If we are to have no Borders or an Immigration policy then there are 100,s of millions in China, India, Africa and many other Nations around the world that would like the same rights. If it is OK for Latinos to pour across or borders then we should let anyone and everyone in the world irregardless of skills, education, race, nationally, diseases etc. to have the same rights to pour into this Nation. Of Course, that would self correct in a very short most would be looking for some country to immigrate to escape the Crime, Pollution, and third World living standards! Guess just to show what a racist and begot I am bet they would be looking at another country that whites built!

Andrew: Said

Hiding behind that ILLEGAL word during an immigration discussion seems to be the new American pastime. You get real! Immigration policy was much different, even non-existent, in the days of Ellis Island. Its 2008 and and the growing Hispanic population is becoming a vital part of our nation. Let's talk about how we can make it work.

No what the hiding is Andrew is the open borders, pro-illegal aliens supporters calling everyone that believes in the rule of law and our Constitution Bigots, racist and xenophobe. I guess if you cannot defend the undefended the next best things is start calling them names!

Brad, on your way to Ellis Island stop by Liberty State Park and read the inscription on the Statue of Liberty. It isn't about being legal, it's about being humane:

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Brad, it was your ancestors that invaded this continent and committed unspeakable atrocities against the indigenous people of this country. They stole the land of the native American Indians and pushed the Mexicans out of California, Utah, Texas, New Mexico, Nevada and Arizona. How "legal" was that?

Brad, on your way to Ellis Island stop by Liberty State Park and read the inscription on the Statue of Liberty. It isn't about being legal, it's about being humane:

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Brad, it was your ancestors that invaded this continent and committed unspeakable atrocities against the indigenous people of this country. They stole the land of the native American Indians and pushed the Mexicans out of California, Utah, Texas, New Mexico, Nevada and Arizona. How "legal" was that?

Go back to Mexico.

I have visit Mexico and many other third countries. If anyone wants to the future of the USA just visit Mexico. If we do not get control of our southern border and start enforcing our immigration laws that is our future! American citizens should start thinking if they want their children trying to sell plastic flower on the street or practice fire swallowing.

Concerned,
You are correct that the immigrants that came through Ellis Island entered the country legally and registered. Maybe you are suggesting a similar system at our southern border? An entry point where immigrants wishing to enter this country to work could register and enter legally? Lets not forget that there were no restrictions on entering the country at that time.

Once again massive riots have taken place in a Paris suburb which is populated with North African and Arab immigrants. Over the past week, over 100 police officers have been injured as the thugs hurled rocks and Molotov cocktails and fired shotguns at them. The violence is a direct result of the large influx of Third World immigrants who have no intention of assimilating.” just like Illegal Aliens from Mexico!

I agree with Brad; that Statue of Liberty is for everyone. My parents and grandparents came through Ellis Island but when they got here, they didn't have the benefit of their language on cans/packages of food or in just about every establishment there is. Enough already! Every person has a God-given right to make a good living, so come on in! Just follow the rules and be welcomed.

Leon...I hope you know you are an racist idiot just like lots of our Illegal Alien lovers. A nation without borders and enforced immigration policy is no nation. Americans did not built this Nation so it can be a welfare state for Mexico or willing victims for your criminals!

Dunnyveg, I´ve seem some real hogwash posted here but you take the cake!

Except for the few Native Americans still around, we are ALL immigrants!

Unless we concede everything would be okay if the illegals were made legal, it becomes clear the problem is with immigration itself. Immigration does irreversible damage to the culture that created the greatest nation ever to exist.

Notice the author never said that Mexico should take in more immigrants, just my country. Last year Mexico naturalized fewer than two dozen immigrants, and these immigrants will never have the same rights as native-born Mexicans. The double standards are simply breathtaking.

If the author wants to call me a racist, nativist, or xenophobe, that's fine. I've got cooties too.

America for Americans, and Mexico for Mexicans!

Hiding behind that ILLEGAL word during an immigration discussion seems to be the new American pastime. You get real! Immigration policy was much different, even non-existent, in the days of Ellis Island. Its 2008 and and the growing hispanic population is becoming a vital part of our nation. Let's talk about how we can make it work.

Hiding behind that ILLEGAL word during an immigration discussion seems to be the new American pastime. You get real! Immigration policy was much different, even non-existent, in the days of Ellis Island. Its 2008 and and the growing hispanic population is becoming a vital part of our nation. Let's talk about how we can make it work.

To the ones repeating Illegal pay taxes they pay sales taxes in states with a sell tax and maybe some small tax in renting but most work off the books and pay no fica, income tax etc. If they do pay those taxes they are working with false SS numbers with is a felony. Due to their education level and numerous kids even those pay very little and the ones I know get a an income tax rebate each year. In other words do they not only pay taxes the get paid money by the tax payers each year. That is in addition to the free medical, schooling, section 8 and welfare that most get. It is not surprising most do not want American citizenship they have a much better deal as illegals. Also, if Americans commit the same crimes as they do we get fines and jail time but they are usually let go with not punish for crimes American citizens would feel the full weight of the law!

Less face the truth Mexico has a official policy of offloading their Uneducated peons, criminals and other undesirables on the USA. They provide them documents and instruction in the form of funny papers (because many if not most cannot read) on how to avoid the border parole. How to get bonus documents and jobs in the USA. By off loading their uneducated peons, criminals and other undesirables on American taxpayers they avoid a revolution in Mexico and improve the standard of living while gaining billions in remittance back to Mexico. They play the race very effective and appeal to the Compassion of American citizens. In the long run maybe the most effective thing we could do for Mexico is deport every illegal Mexican in the USA. After having lived here and getting used to the standard of living here if we send back the 12 to 30 million back to Mexico they would demand a better, less corrupt government. It may require an revolution there but the end results hopefully would be a better country! Mexico as countries go is rich there is no reason they cannot do a better job in caring for their citizens. Oh, also the best independent guess of the Illegal Aliens in this country was in 2005 it it was between 20 to 30 millions then and we have between 3 to 10 thousands pouring across our border every day since then. Heck you can find 12 million by just visiting the welfare offices and ER rooms! The action of Mexico and there Illegal Aliens is certainly serious enough for action on our part. Iraq, Iran, Afganstan never invaded this Nation and killed, raped and robbed thousands of our citizens the way Mexico has.

I too am very tired of racist comments -- like those that suggest that on ethnic group is exempt from our immigration laws and deserve special treatment. What happened to the notion that we are a nation of laws and not men? That is the racism I am appalled by -- and it is not borderline racism at all, it is full blown racist mentality that says I get what no other group gets. I see nothing wrong with our laws or our approach to those laws - they are much more leniant and fair than those of Mexico.

This nation was founded by a bunch of criminals who refused to follow the law and then when the enforcers came they killed them all. Bad laws are never followed...read your history books.

You are very wrong on one of your first points. We don't have an obligation to the world. Period. I am personally opposed to all the anti-illegal alien rhetoric myself. I actually supported the failed effort to legislate a way to legalize our illegal alien problem.

But we don't owe anyone who isn't a citizen anything. My grandparents came through Ellis Island. They did so legally. Ton's of other people come here and stay here legally. In my view, anyone who is here but not a citizen is a guest in my house. And I don't owe them a thing, rather, they owe me something, and that is to respect my property, and to leave when asked.

To "of course":

I actually lived in a "Little Italy" and I can tell you that many who immigrated as adults DID NOT learn English and DID NOT associate with non-Italians.

Their children did learn English and did widen their group of friends, but still maintained an identity as Italian-Americans.

The problem with this issue is too many people like you THINK you know the answers, but "of course" you have no idea.

Leon:

To put it bluntly without being PC the problem with Mexico is Mexicans. In hundreds of years the only type of society you have been able to build is a Cesspool of Crime, Corruption, Poverty, Misery and Cruelly! Look at you sports, Bull fighting, Horse tripping, Dog Fighting, Cock fighting, & of course rape is a great sport for the young men. Which you would think would hardly be necessary since sex is legal with 12 year old girls there. It would seem that would be enough like rape to satisfy even the most jaded! Not surprising as more of your Countrymen come to this country the more like Mexico we become! In the long run it is either good or desirable for us or the world to allow Mexico to turn this country into another Third World Country. If any more proof is required look at the Border cities, they are as different as night and day. Obviously the land is the same so how to explain the poverty on the Mexican side other than Mexican culture? Clean up you own country Leon then feel free to criticize our country!

Leon:
I am immigrant from Asia, but I have deep misgivings about mass immigration from Mexico. Why, because immigrant people bring their culture with them and a mass immigration will import a new culture which will potentially change or supplant US culture. That is our fear: that a society of laws that is the US today, will be turned into a society where respect for the law is spotty as is the case in Mexico today.

Immigrants from other parts of the world do not want to immigrate to Mexico, they want to come to the US. If the US turns into another Mexico, where will the next US be found?

Brad, yes, let´s get real. No one HAD to come illegally through Ellis Island, anyone who came got in unless they had a communicable disease. Not only that, it would have been pretty tough to sneak in from Europe.

Try again.

"And a quick note. I am not ignoring the role of the Mexican government on immigration. My country’s leadership has failed in two crucial regards: acknowledging the importance of border security in the post-9/11 world, and working harder to improve conditions in rural Mexico. But that is another matter entirely."

No Mr. Krauze, that IS the issue - that which precipitates illegal immigration. Just as others have said, Ellis Island was a legal port of entry where folks registered and followed the law. The noise we keep hearing from LULAC, et al, consistently steps over that fact trying to put people on the defensive by calling them racist. Whereby some might indeed be racist, lets not forget that not everyone is. Some do believe in the rule of law and feel other countries should respect our laws when it comes to immigration.

Indeed Mr. Krauze, What if the U.S. adopted Mexico's immigration laws and immigration practices (such as on Mexico's southern borders)? The hypocrisy is unbelievable.

Jason,

As pertaining to the Background check for the Illegal Aliens already here. Do not forget it should not only pertain to possible terrorist but to criminals. The most vicious gangs in American is Illegal Alien gangs like MS-13 that has started an ethic cleaning of Blacks in LA. Recent posting around the country calls for killing all blacks & gringos! Read the Manifesto of Al Raza (The Race)no more racist org. existed in the USA than La Raza they are very blunt in calling for the reconquesto of the American Southwest. In turn they also say everything for the brown race and nothing for the rest. Not surprising they are taxpayer supported. Guess most of Politicians cannot read or maybe just pandering to the Latino vote. Hillary has the ex VP of La Raza as an adviser on her payroll. Coming across the border more than once is an felony as is forged documents, welfare fraud, stolen SS numbers etc. etc. All offenses American citizens would face fines and jail for committing. So a accurate background check would result in most of the Illegal Aliens in this country getting deported!

I would like to reiterate Brad's point. Illegal immigration is not what this country is founded on. Nevertheless, the issue is oversimplified by the politicians and it can be taken as racism, but the candidates I've been following don't show racist tendencies at all, they just want to live in a country governed by laws.

This argument is always about racism instead of the real issue of law breakers. It makes me sick.

And no, we can't afford to take on 12 million low skill, uneducated people, even if they were white.

Stop the racist bull crap and get to the bottom of the problem: law breakers.

Yes, there was a little Italy, etc, but do you really think they didn't learn English? Do you think they didn't associate with other people? Did they really blame all their problems on other races. What the hell did I as a white person ever do to a Mexican. I am Irish, my family had there own problems, but didn't blame it on anyone else.

We need to encourage development that provides employment in Latin America, and indeed everywhere people need it, including the U.S. Two millenia ago, Mencius said that if there is a stable country where people can prosper, they will flock there -- it is as inevitable as water flowing downhill. The only solution is to promote sustainable development around the world.

First of all, what credibility does this guy have on anything related to the United States? Couldn't this paper have found someone or something (like my pinkie finger) who has more credibility than this guy?

Anyway I digress from my main point which is that the pro-illegal immigration crowd completely misses the entire point on this issue. Those of us who want border security and are for denying taxpayer funded services to illegals (who don't pay taxes) are wrongly portrayed as xenophobes (a favored word for elitists to pretend they are smarter than the rest of us), bigots (another favored word of the elites), racists, etc. We don't have a problem with immigrants. I have so many friends who are first or second generation immigrants; even my own father is a naturalized citizen. But all of these people entered the country LEGALLY. They are DOCUMENTED, they PAY TAXES, and WAITED THEIR TURN. We believe preference should be given to those immigrants who followed the rules and abided by our laws. Frankly I wouldn't mind allowing the illegals here to be given green cards if a couple conditions were met: First, BUILD A FREAKING FENCE along BOTH the Mexican and Canadian borders! The flow of illegals must be stopped before any amnesty should be considered, and building a PHYSICAL FENCE is the cheapest, most effective way to do that. Second, the illegals already here must submit to a background investigation before they receive their green card. This is to make sure we aren't giving legal status to any terrorist or those with connections to terrorists. Finally, the illegals who pass the background check can be granted Green cards AND ONLY Green cards. They will NOT be eligible to become citizens, because the broke the law to get here, however, their subsequent decendants born here will be U.S. citizens.

Prediction: I will be called a racist, xenophobe, nativist, and/or bigot for this post, which will just prove that some people can never be reasoned with.

ILLEGAL ALIENS are criminials nothing more . Please remember there was no one SNEAKING through Ellis Island. This Nation was NOT forged by Twenty Million people jumping a fence and heading straight to the welfare office . That my friend IS your culture , a culture of parasites who know exactly what they are doing and care less about our laws !

ILLEGAL ALIENS are criminials nothing more . Please remember there was no one SNEAKING through Ellis Island. This Nation was NOT forged by Twenty Million people jumping a fence and heading straight to the welfare office . That my friend IS your culture , a culture of parasites who know exactly what they are doing and care less about our laws !

Of course, Illegal Aliens poverty is not worse but we already have enough US citizens in poverty without adding the population of Mexico and Latino American. Someone on here has spoke of hypocrisy and racist feeling toward Mexicans. What I find is hypocrisy is thinking it is OK for Mexicans to ignore our Immigration laws not others. If we are to have no borders or an Immigration policy then there are 100,s of millions in China, India, Africa and many other Nations around the world that would like the same rights. If it is OK for Latinos to pour across or borders then we should let anyone and everyone in the world irregardless of skills, education, race, nationally, diseases etc. to have the same rights to pour into this Nation. Of Course, that would self correct in a few years and most would be looking for some country to immigrate to esp. the Crime, pollution, and third standards!

Let's be honest. America's ruling class has closed their eyes and left the back door open over the last twenty years to allow a cheap source of labour to enter the country illegally. For them to show outrage now, is pure hypocrisy.

We’ve got 12 million (12,000,000) illegal aliens trying to tell us how to run our country and now this nut from Mexico too and of course we can’t forget Osama bin Laden. What’s your motivation Leon?

Leon:

To put it bluntly without being PC the problem with Mexico is Mexicans. In hundreds of years the only type of society you have been able to build is a Cesspool of Crime, Corruption, Poverty, Misery and Cruelly! Look at you sports, Bull fighting, Horse tripping, Dog Fighting, Cock fighting, & of course rape is a great sport for the young men. Which you would think would hardly be necessary since sex is legal with 12 year old girls there. It would seem that would be enough like rape to satisfy even the most jaded! Not surprising as more of your Countrymen come to this country the more like Mexico we become! In the long run it is either good or desirable for us or the world to allow Mexico to turn this country into another Third World Country.

Yes, those who came through Ellis Island did so legally. I can appreciate those who view this as a most significant point...IF and olny if you also favor allowing similar large numbers to immigrate to the US from Mexico legally as did through Ellis Island.

Yes. You don't want anyone migrating to the US illegally. BUT, if you ALSO want to severely limit the number who can do so legally then basically you are just saying you don't want any breown people period and your argument loses my respect.

AMEN. The hypocrisy saddens and sickens me as well.

Bill, it's refreshing to hear someone acknowledge that the debate is, in fact, about immigration not only illegal immigration. As you say, if the problem were their illegality, amnesty would solve it.

But, are illegal immigrants really unfairly free-loading on our social services? Poverty is certainly expensive, but is illegal alien poverty worse for the nation than native poverty?

Legalizing immigrants would make them more likely to pay taxes. At this point, they would become no more of a drag on social services than are poor citizens. So, why do we still believe that illegal immigrants are less-deserving of social services than equally-poor citizens? Is it because they are lazier, less-disciplined, less likely to do their part? This argument is clearly racist and blatantly false.

So it must be simply because they made the mistake of not being born here. This runs against the core American principle that all men are born with an equal right to pursue happiness. By this principle, an immigrant willing to take great risks and work very hard here to better his and his family's lot epitomizes the American way.

America's cherished commitment to judging individuals based on their own actions, not their birth rights or their skin color demands that we accept immigrants. If they commit to working hard and to upholding our principles of freedom, democracy, and the rule of law once they are here, then they are as much a part of our national family as any native-born citizen.

We absorbed a much larger (proportionately) influx of immigrants at the turn of the last century without an economic catastrophe or a collapse of our moral fabric. So, let's find the strength to fulfill our principled obligation to accept immigrants while treating the harm caused to low-skilled citizens as a national burden, to be born by us and our government, not by some other country's poor.

Finally, loosened immigration restrictions would likely be more effective at improving the lot of our neighboring countries than any conceivable foreign assistance package.

Once we are acting according to our principles, we will have every right to berate the Mexican government for not fulfilling its obligations to its own people.

Leon

I have been to Ellis Island. It looks like you missed the message though. The immigrants who went through there were "legal". We knew who they were, where they were from, and how many were coming in. Illegal immigration from Mexico not only bypasses the Ellis Island "safeguards" but results in a disproportionate number of immigrants coming in from Latin America. If we truly celebrate the diversity of the American salad bowl or melting pot (whichever works for you) then there should be more opportunites for East Asians, Arabs, Hindus, or Pacific Islanders. Do we really want an immigrant population comprised so overwhelmingly from one part of the world?

Leon

I have been to Ellis Island. It looks like you missed the message though. The immigrants who went through there were "legal". We knew who they were, where they were from, and how many were coming in. Illegal immigration from Mexico not only bypasses the Ellis Island "safeguards" but results in a disproportionate number of immigrants coming in from Latin America. If we truly celebrate the diversity of the American salad bowl or melting pot (whichever works for you) then there should be more opportunites for East Asians, Arabs, Hindus, or Pacific Islanders. Do we really want an immigrant population comprised so overwhelmingly from one part of the world?

Leon, since you seem to think we should have open borders and unlimited welfare for Mexicans. Would you please enlighten us about Mexico Immigration policies? It is my understanding Illegal Aliens in Mexico are very lucky if your hard working country men do not rob, rape or kill them. Then there is the Policy when the catch a illegal alien in your country, again they are lucky if they are just jailed and deported. More than likely they will be robber, raped, or killed while under your government care. But in the case they as Immigrants are gave Mexican citizenship can they vote and have full native Mexicans Right? The Answer is NO! I find your comments on our distaste for being invaded breathtaking in your chutzpah!

Freestater, I did not find fault with the ethnic enclaves. I named examples to provide evidence of the specious, romanticized view that all the immigrants "in the old days" used to learn English and assimilate into American culture. There is no disagreement here.

Leon:

Mexico's role is not "another matter entirely" - it is the cause of the problem and is potentially most of the solution.

How is it possible that a country located adjacent to the world's largest market and possessing both an energy surplus and a large, inexpensive work force causes 10% or more of its population to leave their homes and families and lite