Isolate Turkey?
If Turkey turns in a huff, like a spoiled teenager, stalks off to its room, slams the door and threatens not to come out for dinner until we take our resolution back, then Turkey has isolated itself.
As Tom Lantos said, we believe that Turkey has the maturity to deal with the resolution, to consider it as wise adults, and to come to terms with its past, so that it can come out of its isolation (which, really, it has inflcted on itself for years since it has had to spin webs to cover up the genocides).
Come on Turkey. We want you to join us. Are you ready?
A prime example of a one-sided interpretation of history which overlooks the immense suffering of millions of Turks, Kurds, Azeris and Muslims.
As recently as 15 years ago (not a century ago), Armenia invaded Azerbaijan, drove a million Azeris from their from their homes and massacring them in places like Khojaly and continues to occupy it to this day. What about them? Oh, because they are Muslims - we shouldn't care about them, right?
And trying to pretend that this is not politically motivated is lame. First of all, it is a backdoor attempt by Pelosi to have her way with Iraq. Many people want that war to end, but this is a very sleazy way of doing it - opening up century old history books and digging stuff up to have our way with politics today.
Besides, the elections are around the corner and the fact that the congressman who introduced this resolution has the biggest Armenian community in the US in his district. Not to mention the fact that Pelosi has a huge ethnic Armenian community in her district as well.
So - enough with demagogues. It is not the job of parliaments to make history. Let the historians debate what happened a century ago.
It is astounding how many people throw morality out the window when US geopolitical strategy is at stake. Let us all forget that 1.5 million people were slaughtered so the US administration can keep this farce of a war going as long as possible.
Here's a link for you who still childishly deny that what happened was genocide.
This search is only for the years 1915-1916. You can broaden that search to include many more years and many more articles.
All politics are local - and the issues raised in the article relate more to the iron-clad grasp that foreign nationalist lobbies have on Congress than any historical or moral consistency.
On one hand, the Armenian lobbies are being supported in the West for what they suffered;
On the other hand, Greek organisations are being coddled because the coup the Greek military junta orchestrated, despute the presence of a UN Peace Keeping force, brought Turkish intervention.
"If Turkey had not intervened, I would not only have proclaimed ENOSIS (annexation to Greece) - I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus." Nicos Sampson, 1981.
Council of Europe adopted resolution 573 stating that Turkey’s intervention on Cyprus was a legitimate act emanating from the Treaty of Guarantee.
One can only assume that murder of Armenians is bad, and must be prevented - and the murder of Cypriot Turks is good, and must not be prevented.
Or - and I suspect this is the likelier answer - politicians just pander to whatever group serves their self-interest best and slap a gloss of morality on whatever that stance happens to be.
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Isolate Turkey?
If Turkey turns in a huff, like a spoiled teenager, stalks off to its room, slams the door and threatens not to come out for dinner until we take our resolution back, then Turkey has isolated itself.
As Tom Lantos said, we believe that Turkey has the maturity to deal with the resolution, to consider it as wise adults, and to come to terms with its past, so that it can come out of its isolation (which, really, it has inflcted on itself for years since it has had to spin webs to cover up the genocides).
Come on Turkey. We want you to join us. Are you ready?
October 15, 2007 7:23 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 15, 2007 19:23
A prime example of a one-sided interpretation of history which overlooks the immense suffering of millions of Turks, Kurds, Azeris and Muslims.
As recently as 15 years ago (not a century ago), Armenia invaded Azerbaijan, drove a million Azeris from their from their homes and massacring them in places like Khojaly and continues to occupy it to this day. What about them? Oh, because they are Muslims - we shouldn't care about them, right?
And trying to pretend that this is not politically motivated is lame. First of all, it is a backdoor attempt by Pelosi to have her way with Iraq. Many people want that war to end, but this is a very sleazy way of doing it - opening up century old history books and digging stuff up to have our way with politics today.
Besides, the elections are around the corner and the fact that the congressman who introduced this resolution has the biggest Armenian community in the US in his district. Not to mention the fact that Pelosi has a huge ethnic Armenian community in her district as well.
So - enough with demagogues. It is not the job of parliaments to make history. Let the historians debate what happened a century ago.
October 15, 2007 1:59 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 15, 2007 13:59
It is astounding how many people throw morality out the window when US geopolitical strategy is at stake. Let us all forget that 1.5 million people were slaughtered so the US administration can keep this farce of a war going as long as possible.
Here's a link for you who still childishly deny that what happened was genocide.
This search is only for the years 1915-1916. You can broaden that search to include many more years and many more articles.
http://news.google.ca/archivesearch?as_ldate=1915&as_hdate=1916&q=armenian&lnav=od&btnG=Search
In case someone notices that the word "Genocide" is not used anywhere in those articles, that is because the term was only first used in 1944.
October 15, 2007 12:44 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 15, 2007 12:44
All politics are local - and the issues raised in the article relate more to the iron-clad grasp that foreign nationalist lobbies have on Congress than any historical or moral consistency.
On one hand, the Armenian lobbies are being supported in the West for what they suffered;
On the other hand, Greek organisations are being coddled because the coup the Greek military junta orchestrated, despute the presence of a UN Peace Keeping force, brought Turkish intervention.
"If Turkey had not intervened, I would not only have proclaimed ENOSIS (annexation to Greece) - I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus." Nicos Sampson, 1981.
Council of Europe adopted resolution 573 stating that Turkey’s intervention on Cyprus was a legitimate act emanating from the Treaty of Guarantee.
One can only assume that murder of Armenians is bad, and must be prevented - and the murder of Cypriot Turks is good, and must not be prevented.
Or - and I suspect this is the likelier answer - politicians just pander to whatever group serves their self-interest best and slap a gloss of morality on whatever that stance happens to be.
October 15, 2007 12:14 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on October 15, 2007 12:14