Imran Khan I think is the best solution for the west and east a a leader. Globally he is more famous than any other leader other than musharraf

Lets cut the debate short, it is not Musharaf or democracy or Bhutto or Sharif or dictatorship or army or ISI which is the problem with Pakistan. It is ISLAM. Pakistan minus Islam would be the solution. Work for it.

Tarik:
Do you really think pakistan is protecting India from major military power Afghanistan.

Jai Khosla:
Remember Ahamad Shah Abdali.
Now don't go into a trance/comma.
May be you should thank Pakistan for protecting your western border.

Mr. Mussaraf Final is coming Soon,because of an main reason: His policy of going after the same people whom he needs for his political survival because they are mayority of the population in Pakistan plus his pro-American-Israel posture .

I tend to agree with MS andoni's analysis of the situation in Pakistan.

America has by and large helped dictators to assume power in many of the countries soon after their freedom from colonial rule.The people know it.That is the reason she is unpopular with the masses.The west has looked the other way when their remote control rulers terrorised their own people to serve their masters.The masters didnt bother with democracy and rule of law then.Now,they blame every other country for not doing enough to make a trasition to free society.

Mussaraf has played a clever game with the US.Now,he has exposed himself and is a lame duck illegal ruler in cash with all the stake holders.

Its about time for America to be true to the values of its forefathers and help its allies to get rid of Army or other dictatorial regimes and thus restore its old reputition of justice and fairplay.

Gen. Musharraf's problems are not pro-US policies but his authoritarian attitude towards governance, which people of Pakistan are no longer ready to tolerate.

In the early 1900s when it looked to the Muslims in what is now India that the British are vulnerable they began their movement to break up India. The result was Partition which clearly stated that 1) the rulers of contiguous states could decide which country they wished to join and 2) That Pakistan was for the Muslims and Muslims could go there any time they wished because it was they who decided on breaking up India for their beloved Islamic state.

The ruler of Jammu & Kashmir with its 40% non-Muslim population decided on merging with India. But Pakistan disrespected his decision and Invaded Kashmir and to this occupies a sizeable part of it despite UN Resolutions asking it to vacate kashmir.

Pakistan also denies the rights of Muslims now in India to migrate to Pakistan. It however more or less completed the ethnic cleansing of Hindus and Sikhs from Pakistan where they are now less than 2 million whereas they were nearly 50% of the population of Pakistani Sindh and Pakistani Punjab before Partition.

For Pakistan to have a chance, it must

1) Vacate Kashmir. India will take it back sooner or later and better that India does not have to kill more Pakistani soldiers.

2) take in all Muslims from India. if my family had to flee from Pakistan with only their shirts on their backs then the Muslims now in India can surely be resettled in Pakistan with their shirts on their backs along with some aid.

Finally Pakistanis must decide whether they wish to continue to be Islamic.

Islam was a political and social system devised by Muhammad to unite the Arabs, to gain for them land and wealth and he created a religious facade to fulfill his agenda.

Islam is totally unsuited for democracy for the mentality of the Pakistani people.

the sooner they discard it the better off they will be.

the first time america gets a real player of dual policy who fooling america by his own art of polotics.see the case how america play with both sides.america support s sometime democratic forces and some time dicator in pakistan musharafa make both one and foil the american policy.

Frank,
Aren't you the real hate monger of muslims by putting deliberatly verses of Quran out of context on internet blogs and serving the anti-muslim's cause dutifully with no conscientous.
The same is being done by the western and zionist media regarding President of Iran statements about Isreal.
Recently the heading in press was"Ahmedidajad says Israel will be removed" when the detailed statement says "the zionist regime of Israel will be removed by the nations if Isreal attacks Lebanon again".
The manipulation by the West of Muslim countries authoritarian rulers has been going for last two decades.
Democracy and freedom of press and media is used when these leaders delinked from the people do not tow Western interest.
It is neocons like you running the White House who has destroyed Iraq starting Gulf war by setting up Saddam to attack Kuwait and then again 2003 using WMD'as an excuse while day dreaming to bring western style farce democracy in the region.
The mediain United States is not free to go against ruling governments policies.

pakistan,like afghanistan is impossible to govern, they are not real countries.

I am quite surprised at a lot of the preconceived notions people have about the prospect of democracy in Pakistan. For the record, I am neither a Pakistani, nor a fan of Pakistan's democratically elected leaders of the past. However, any superficial glance at Pakistani public opinion and election trends reveals, quite strongly, that Pakistan's population would neither enjoy the rule of Islamic radicals, nor tolerate it (if they have any say, that is). It is certainly true that Musharraf has strengthened the extremists in Pakistan (partly by his cooperation with the U.S., partly because he had no one else to pander to, and at least a little bit because strengthening them justifies his rule as a "secular" alternative).

One thing is certainly true: Musharraf DID miss a good opportunity. Many elements of his rule (particularly in the economic sphere) helped undo many of the failings of previous leaders, but his vehemently undemocratic attitude (understandable, yet still unforgiveable, in the paranoid environment of Pakistani politics) and his inability to improve the lot of Pakistan's population in the face of so much international economic help (not to mention billions in US aid) certainly contributed to bringing him to this situation.

My question is this: do we really want to bring Benazir back? I can think of no better reason to keep Musharraf in power than the return of Bhutto or Shariff. The people of Pakistan are democratic, and aching for it. The power structures at hand don't allow for it: the military, the landed/semi-feudal lords, and the politicians form a corrupt troika that make the United States' political system seem utopic. Until this problem is addressed, we're going to see more of the same in Pakistan for years to come.

I am quite surprised at a lot of the preconceived notions people have about the prospect of democracy in Pakistan. For the record, I am neither a Pakistani, nor a fan of Pakistan's democratically elected leaders of the past. However, any superficial glance at Pakistani public opinion and election trends reveals, quite strongly, that Pakistan's population would neither enjoy the rule of Islamic radicals, nor tolerate it (if they have any say, that is). It is certainly true that Musharraf has strengthened the extremists in Pakistan (partly by his cooperation with the U.S., partly because he had no one else to pander to, and at least a little bit because strengthening them justifies his rule as a "secular" alternative).

One thing is certainly true: Musharraf DID miss a good opportunity. Many elements of his rule (particularly in the economic sphere) helped undo many of the failings of previous leaders, but his vehemently undemocratic attitude (understandable, yet still unforgiveable, in the paranoid environment of Pakistani politics) and his inability to improve the lot of Pakistan's population in the face of so much international economic help (not to mention billions in US aid) certainly contributed to bringing him to this situation.

My question is this: do we really want to bring Benazir back? I can think of no better reason to keep Musharraf in power than the return of Bhutto or Shariff. The people of Pakistan are democratic, and aching for it. The power structures at hand don't allow for it: the military, the landed/semi-feudal lords, and the politicians form a corrupt troika that make the United States' political system seem utopic. Until this problem is addressed, we're going to see more of the same in Pakistan for years to come.

Finally, somebody talked about what Pakistani people might want. I am surprised at all the talk of how US might pick partnership with another General.

Pakistani public's political awareness is much better now. The anger against Musharraf has more to do with Army's encroachment into Pakistan's politics and economy than his support for US.

If PPP does a deal with Musharraf, it will lose all credibility in public. PPP's popularity is primarily due to its opposition of the establishment.

I am quite stunned to read all this hue and cry over the next ally of US in Pakistan another general or a dummy PM from the political parties.No body here cares about the people of Pakistan what they want and what are they going through... Economic burden power failures dramas by the politicians have broke the back bone of this country's people ... Its time to start thinking about the people of Pakistan without being selfish and should give importance to what they think instead of just worrying about a few culprits like Benazir and Nawaz Sharif who have always robbed this nation of its wealth and have done nothing for this country's people. Now is the time for the USA to start thinking critically about the people of Pakistan, for there betterment and not just for the benefit of USA because in that way it will remain the same and Anti American ism will only rise because of there neglecting poliicies

Musharraf has been hunting with the hounds (encouraging the fundamentalist Mullahs in exchange for their support)while running with the hares (making half hearted attempts to rein in the Taliban and Al Qaeda at the behest of the Americans). This high wire act is reaching denouement as the Mullahs resent this level of participation in the "war on terror" (as also the people at large) while the Americans are accusing Musharraf of not doing enough! The economic growth witnessed since 2003 has not benefited the vast mass of poor people and has led to unrest. Civil war conditions prevail in Baluchistan. The sacking of Chief Justice Chaudhry has snowballed into a major crisis as his humiliation has provided the spark to bring together all disaffected groups and for the first time "Go Musharraf Go" rents the air at every rally.

The US must now be looking for "another number to call" in Pakistan. However, Musharraf's replacement is likely to be another General as the US has no patience with the messy, noisy, chaotic polity that democracy will necessarily usher in its wake. And history will repeat itself.

Go Musharraf Go!! Down with the Generals!!