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Asslam o alikum!

The first words of these comments are Asslam o Alikum, May the peace be upon you. These are the words which I learnt right from my childhood being born in a muslim family. And I practice it.

I had an opportunity to work with the Christian Missionaries a few years ago.

Believe me I had a very different thinking about the christianity. But when I started reading Bible I have changed my ideas. Because I found many things in Bible which are not practiced by many of the christians even in the missionaries.

I believe this is not bible that these christian practice but this is these christians own way of treating people we can not blame bible for it.

Keeping what is said above in mind, anything happening in the Islamic world especially in Saudia and Afghanistan Koran can not be blamed for it- if you pick up and do the same as I did with bible - you will certainly find many things you like.

Asslam o alikum!

The first words of these comments are Asslam o Alikum, May the peace be upon you. These are the words which I learnt right from my childhood being born in a muslim family. And I practice it.

I had an opportunity to work with the Christian Missionaries a few years ago.

Believe me I had a very different thinking about the christianity. But when I started reading Bible I have changed my ideas. Because I found many things in Bible which are not practiced by many of the christians even in the missionaries.

I believe this is not bible that these christian practice but this is these christians own way of treating people we can not blame bible for it.

Keeping what is said above in mind, anything happening in the Islamic world especially in Saudia and Afghanistan Koran can not be blamed for it- if you pick up and do the same as I did with bible - you will certainly find many things you will like.

binyameenkhan@hotmail.com

Asslam o alikum!

The first words of these comments are Asslam o Alikum, May the peace be upon you. These are the words which I learnt right from my childhood being born in a muslim family. And I practice it.

I had an opportunity to work with the Christian Missionaries a few years ago.

Believe me I had a very different thinking about the christianity. But when I started reading Bible I have changed my ideas. Because I found many things in Bible which are not practiced by many of the christians in the missionaries.

I believe this is not bible that these christians own way of treating people we can not blame bible for it.

Keeping what is said above in mind, anything happening in the Islamic world especially in Saudia and Afghanistan - if you pick up and do the same as I did with bible - you will certainly find many things you will like.

binyameenkhan@hotmail.com

You mentioned Malaysia, and you seems to think that there's no slaughter sanctioned by Islam.

Read the entry on this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaariibuugiin_Altantuyaa

The Mongolian model was not only murdered, her body was blown into pieces, and the whole thing is sanctioned by the government of Malaysia.

I'm a Malaysian, and I know what I am talking about.

The above mass-posting of the same message - so as to disallow anyone else from posting is such a typical move for someone who's argument has no merit. Threats and more threats.

So I'll repost my message, just once more:

I read a while back that Gen. MacArthur faced an islamic insurgency after recapturing the Phillipines during World War 2. It was immediately quelled when the insurgents believed that their martyrdom would be thwarted.
MacArthur had a firing squad dip their bullets in the blood of a pig before executing a handful of the fanatical islamics. He spared one of the insurgents and returned him to his people, who were told about the pig blood covered bullets that were used to execute the rebels.
Since it was one of their many superstitions that it was impossible to gain paradise with porcine blood upon the dying body, the martyrdom avenue was closed to the insurgents, and thus it was fruitless. The rebellion ended shortly thereafter.
I am not sure if this was a true story, but it poses an alternative to the west dealing with these nutcases.

Peace out babies

I read a while back that Gen. MacArthur faced an islamic insurgency after recapturing the Phillipines during World War 2. It was immediately quelled when the insurgents believed that their martyrdom would be thwarted.
MacArthur had a firing squad dip their bullets in the blood of a pig before executing a handful of the fanatical islamics. He spared one of the insurgents and returned him to his people, who were told about the pig blood covered bullets that were used to execute the rebels.
Since it was one of their many superstitions that it was impossible to gain paradise with porcine blood upon the dying body, the martyrdom avenue was closed to the insurgents, and thus it was fruitless. The rebellion ended shortly thereafter.
I am not sure if this was a true story, but it poses an alternative to the west dealing with these nutcases.

Muslim man(talk about an onxymoron),

I am one of the Westerners & believe all Westerners should assist Moslems in their sacraments whenever possible.

In the name of all that is sacred in a multicultural society, we should assist Moslems in performing their highest sacrament whenever possible. Martyrdom.

Martyrdom will place all Mohammadans at the Left side of the Prophet.

The Jews can't be blamed for Jesus'death. To believe otherwise is to wallow in ignorance.

It was all God's plan. Remember,

God so loved mankind that he sent his only begotten son. Jesus suffered & died for our sins that we didn't have to & so that we could be saved.

In fact, he repeats himself a couple of times.

Most of his statements could be broaded to any fundamentalist religious movement, including christians.

By the way Jay, Christianity at the moment, has a higher total death toll than Islam. however, it sure as hell looks like they are trying to beat the Jesus followers' record within our lifetimes.

And to any rebuttals from muslims that christians have done all the things that Kactus lists as offenses by muslims I say; "Yes, you're right. Christians have done all those things. But what have they done lately? Some people can learn to act in a mature, respectable fashion. Unfortunately, the current world news very strongly shows that muslims haven't reached that level of maturity yet."

I've seen a lot of cartoons derogatory, or obscene of Jesus, or just plain offensive. I've seen movies that denounce the divinity of Jesus, or portray him as a semi-debased man wallowing in the "human" condition. However, unlike Mohammendean cartoons or movies, I haven't heard or read of anyone being murdered over them. Nor have I heard or read of people's stores, homes, or property being destroyed because of them. Boycotted, yes! Banned from certain insular, provincial communities, yes! But not a cause for violence.

This whole threat has become meaningless. This will be my last post here about cartoons.

So Muslims are offended by cartoons.

Well, let me tell them what offends me...

I am offended by the lack of respect that Muslim have for others

I am offended by the hate and anger in the Quran against non-Muslims

I am offended by the respect attributed to Mohammed, a man that according to Islam's own writings (hadiths) was a murderer, torturer, slaver, rapist and wife beater. These things are written by his own followers and admirers. Yes, these are all there - Do your research!

I am offended that, for Muslims to feel good about their religion, they must restrict my freedom of speech and thought.

I am offended by the oppression and persecution of other religions in every country where Muslims dominate.

I am offended by the severe restrictions against Non-Muslim religious activities in Muslim countries (Are they afraid?)

I am offended by the hate preached in the mosques and written in Islamic books and pamphlets throughout the Islamic world.

I am offended by the naked malice in the media of Islamic nations, and their constant portrayal of non-Muslims as demons, including with images far worse then the Danish cartoons.

I am offended by the treatment of women in Islam and in the Muslim world. I am offended by the fact the so many Muslims consider women and girls second class citizens, denying them educational, political, professional and social rights.

I am offended by honor killings, forced marriages, female genital mutilation - all common practices in Islamic societies.

I am offended by the violence that follows Islam like flies after excrement.

I am offended by countless videos of Muslims shouting "Allahu Akbar " as they behead hostages, shoot innocents and bomb civilians.

I am offended by the astronomically high crime rates of Muslims immigrants and their propensity to rape and kill.

I am offended by the lack of morals within the Muslim community, which will protest, threaten and even kill over silly cartoons about a man their own scriptures say was a murderer, torturer, slaver and wife-beater, and not show any indignation relative to the multitudes of evils in Islamic societies.

I am offended by the fact that Muslim must blame all their problems on others.

I am offended by the constant lies and distortions that Muslims tell about their religion and societies.

I am offended by the constant excuses Muslims make (out of context, bad translations, you don't understand, etc.) to hide the vile nature of the Quran.

I am offended by the denial and ignorance of Muslim about their own writings, and that they refure to look at the dark soul of Islam.

I am offended by the constant affirmations that the behavior of some Muslims, who quote from the Quran and practice acts commanded in the Quran, is "un-Islamic".

I am offended by the constant denials that terrorism has anything to do with Islam when it enjoys broad support in the Muslim world.

I am offended when Muslim try to portray Islam as a 'religion of peace' when it is by far the bloodiest, most oppressive and repulsive religion on the planet.

I am offended by the little value given to human life in Islamic countries, where people are killed and beaten and there is no pity or recompense.

I am offended by Muslims' need to impose their morality, or better, lack of morality, on others.

I am offended by the lack of freedom, equality and opportunity in all Islamic societies.

and so on.... And Muslim are offended by stupid cartoons.

Kactuz

I would just like to tell the Western People not to intermix Muslim and Middle East. Not all muslims are from West Asia and not all Middle Eastern folks are muslims...so there is no correlation between muslims and middleeast.

I wonder if even Sigmund Freud could help untangle the messed-up thinking of these poor souls who believe all this nonsense about the "evil jews". Oh wait, I forgot... religious fanatacism is the solution - who needs to sort out fact from fantasy when you have the blind convictions of a zealot.

gadds! what a depressing collection of rabid rants against the jews. the big scary jews have control over the world, bla bla bla. what stupidity. dimwits with weapons. all this anti jew crap is spread by saudi arabian clerics and their near total control over the islamic prostelizing worldwide. all this poop about the jews is completely fabricated - completely. if they did control the world there would be no terrorism because they would have nipped it in the bud 40 years ago. the poor idiots showing their hatred on this blog are too full of lies to be able to even begin to understand how they have been lied to. it seems hopeless with such ignorance. fill your head with lies, your hearts with hate, your hands with weapons. looks great for the future. NOT

Thanks Post for this excellent report. Fascinating to hear what the taliban has to say, even if I disagree

muslims kill few
american troops killed 3.6 million innocent iraqi civialians for oil
is that what jesus would have done
even hitler was not that crazy
all christians are evil

really

Islam, like any other religion in the world, has it's power structure which seeks to perpetuate itself. It does so by inciting it's followers to arms for one reason or another. The difference of course, is the level of violence that the so called "leadership" incites.

To be told that we in the west are being "mislead"
by the media is absurd. To be told that we are "stereotyping" is equally absurd. Things will only change when the true followers of Islam
finally put their foot down and change the current power structure that incites the violence that is on display in front of the entire world.

If the followers of Islam want the world to respect them and their religion, then behave responsibly (& take responsibility) and join the civilized world.

I believe we call it "practice what you preach".

Dear Writer, and readers.

First of all, let me inform you well about why all muslims are so easy touchy on prophets( I mean all prophets Mohamed, Jesis, Mosa and others) . Islam is a comprehensive way of life that dicates every and single action of all beleivers as constitutions of each country dictates what should be done and what should not be done. Furthermore, Islam not only dictates what should be done, but also dictates how should be done. Islam teaches us how to approach other religion believers like those who believe Jesis, and those who believe moses, to put it another way Christinaty and jewism). Islam even teach us which is closer to us when it comes to make a choice between a christian man and a Jewish man. A Christian man is a closer friend to Muslims than a Jewish man. However, there are shortcomings of muslim people because of lack of knowledge in their religion that makes Muslims to be considered as a second citizen in this World. I have travelled a lot of countries and i face a lot of discriminations because of my appearance as i wear beard.

The best thing to avoid clashes between civilisations is to make more discussions on religions between the people who are really believe the religions, but if you call and invite only those you think are more Westernised does not make sense at all. The West world should realise that it is time to make concessions and to talk the real power wielding people in the muslim world and not governments and their allied shikhs.

Ancient scriptures recently discovered near the Dead Sea--- hidden by the Jewish Mossad--- was written by Jesus himself. Proves that Jesus predicted that the world will be destroyed by Jews in 2012. This is the same as the Mayan prediction--- they just said that it will be destroyed by evil hat wearers.

Jesus called Jews the "Children of Satan" and said that they will be helped by Satan to destroy the world in 2012. He renounced his Judiaism.

Damn Jews

Actually there was an art piece by an artist supported by the NEA titled "Piss Christ" which consisted of a crucifix in a jar with yellow fluid. It created a stir and many denouncements and undermined political support for the Endowment, but no death threats.

Certainly a response to offensive speech can be denouncements and/or a withdrawal of support. Death threats are beyond the pale.

The whole discussion has acquired too much of an air of superiority and condescension. Nobody has asked what would have happened in this country if some publication - no editor would dare even in his dreams - would publish a cartoon with The Christ in it. What would be the reaction from the evangelical groups? Wouldn't we have some violence specially in the parts of the country where Christ has substituted Christianity?

Let's not forget that only a few weeks ago in a situation where a college president who tried not to offend non-Christians by moving - not removing - a Christian symbol, was fired for his efforts. Perhaps we should congratulate ourselves that he was fired and not fired at, but neither the outcome nor its sequel gives us any right to cast the first stone in this case.

JH

Thank JH for commenting on my comments. The state has authority to regulate freedom of speech. I think now the West realises that people should not be free to spread hatred. You should not be allowed to encourage others to the use of violence for example.
Regarding my saying that Muhammad is the master of mankind; this is not only my assessment but it is the assessment of Western writters. Muhammad is the most influential person in the history of mankind according to one Western author of the most 100 influential personality in the history.
Regarding resorting to violence by some Muslims in responding to the insults directed against them, is wrong and not sanctioned by Islam. People should not take the law in their own hands.
Violence is everywhere in the world. People in Serbia resorted to violence to show their resentments towards the US and other countries who supported the independence of Kosovo by burning the US embassy. It is only when Muslims resort to violence then the religious sentiments are attached to it but others it is nationalistics sentiments are the cause.
You might think the most blood shed in the history has been shed by muslims, no it has not. Did you know that the communists (either of christian faith(Russians)! or Budhist(chines)!) and the capitalists ( of Christians faith (Americans or Germans)are responsible of much blood shed in the history. World war 11 memories are not far away from us.
But violence is deeply attached to muslims it is unfortunate. I wish you read how Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him) was very particular in sparing blood when war situation arised. He forbade his followers from indiscriminate killing of elders, children, women and those who are not involve in the warfare. If you wish to discuss with me further privately away from this site you are welcome; my email is this hilalali@squ.edu.om

One trouble is that the West has become rather paranoid about women's rights. Even a woman, e.g. a secretary, who brings a cup of coffee to a man is seen as oppressed. Such a paranoia on the part of the West makes accommodation on women's rights and women's place difficult. Here is an instance of what I mean. Some years ago I was on the doctoral committee of a woman scientist who said at one point that she envied her sister-in-law who was a housewife and had the luxury of staying at home. When I reported this on a discussion group, I was accused of being "anti-woman". Never mind that I advised this young woman, who now has a good job; just the fact that I reported HER views made me anti-woman! The West needs to lighten up and understand that the happiness of both women and men can be pursued by different cultures in different ways.

Of course, the hijab does seem oppressive, but it does mean that when you are going out you don't need to spend half an hour thinking what you are going to wear! :) And apparently some women seem to appreciate both the convenience and the fact that they are saved from male leers when they dress modestly. I am NOT recommending that people should be forced to wear the hijab, but the West does need to lighten up. And BTW, I am not a Muslim and none of my female relatives wears even a veil...

I challenge the Danish media to publish cartoons that insult the holocaust, Moses or Jesus and then claim "freedom of speech."

Let's get back to talking about the Honorable Adolph Hitler.

Everyday the news shows the truth of Islam.

From the school girls running out of a burning building in Saudi Arabia and shot down on the spot because they dared run out of that burning building without first covering their faces to the recent execution of a man who dared pass out christian pamplets.

Islam daily lives up to its reputation as the religion of terror, violence and stupidity.

You can't force someone to respect you or your religion.

Respect is earned, not just granted because a whiny cult thinks it should be exempt from ridicule.

The filmakers have every right to make a movie about whatever they please.

And if Islam doesn't like it, who cares?

Islam is not going to be exempt from scrutiny, as a matter of fact, Islam is under the microscope right now, but most Islamist are deaf, dumb and blind to that fact.

"Then there is fear. People fear their culture will be taken over by the West,” Zayaf said. "They think missionaries are at work in Kabul converting people to Christianity. They feel like they must protect their religion."

Muslims fear their religion cannot compete in a free arena of spiritual ideas, so they take murderous threats and actions to make certain no competing ideas come within their political sphere. Can this be anything but the most severe restriction of free speech?

These people who are discussing Islam either never read it in depth nor practiced it. Please read Qoran..The sayings of Prophet Muhammad.. Who trained Osama Bin Ladn and other thousands of Muslims in the name of Islam to fight against Russisa in Afghanistan? Ask CIA and other agencies. Till 9/11 all was OK..Suddenly Islam became the terrorist relegion???????It has been scientifically proved that the twin towers can never collapse as they did in 9/11 attacks? what happened to WMDs in Iraq? The west is playing target killing game with muslimsaround the world..Ask Jews in the thousands years history when they got peace? Is Muslims offer prayers and practice their religion, they are fundamentalists!!!While if a christian goes to church and takes agood care of family, he is regaded as good person..Please compare ratio of rapes, killings, theft, children without fathers and other social evils with Islamic countries and west.. I dont know what u people mean by independence? it is easy to attack other religion and criticize???what ur preachesr, missionaries, churches are doing in sex scandals??? talkingabout human rights now????U dont know firts charter of human rights was presented by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) 1400 years ago. Please read the history and not fiction. I only blame westren media which never portrayed Islam positively..

fanatıcısm ıs fanatıcısm ın every area ı agree but only the fanatics are not from muslım we should look the past and now for jews and christians

Qran says "who belives God and the messenger Muhammed(sav) will go to paradise even he is a sinful(but ıf a man is sinful suffer ın the hell fıst of all ın order to purıfy ). İslam never likes violence islam is a peaceful and universal religion fanatıcs wrong ıdeas can not refer the ıslam but Muhammed (sav) likes peace does not lıke vılonece try to realıse that ıf amuslım do not belıeve to jesus he can not be muslım thıs ıs so clear., therefore west should change the poınt of view to ıslam .

steve, fanatık ıs fanatık ın every area jews or christians or muslıms but west should change the poınt of view to muslıms unıted state comes f0or ıraq for peace u really belıve there are lots of pıctures the amerıcan soldıers destroy mosque ın ıraq is'n ıt radıcalısm unıted state and the or the west cultures should understand the muslıms'value . ı told before ıf a muslım wrong ıt ıs not the fault of ıslam ıtıs the fault of that person but most of the muslım s are not lıke that u can not see a humılıtaıon of pıcture of another prophet because all the prophets are sacret for the muslıms ıslam accept jesus but chrıst not to Muhammed(sav) thıs ıs the startıng poınt.

What is Islam ?

Islam is not a new religion, but the same truth that God revealed through all His prophets to every people. For a fifth of the world's population, Islam is both a religion and a complete way of life. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the majority have nothing to do with the extremely grave events which have come to be associated with their faith.

What do Muslims think about Jesus?

Muslims respect and revere Jesus, and await his Second Coming. They consider him one of the greatest of God's messengers to mankind. A Muslim never refers to him simply as 'Jesus', but always adds the phrase 'upon him be peace'. The Quran confirms his virgin birth (a chapter of the Quran is entitled 'Mary'), and Mary is considered the purest woman in all creation. The Quran describes the Annunciation as follows:

'Behold!' the Angel said, 'God has chosen you, and purified you, and chosen you above the women of all nations. O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him, whose name shall be the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, honored in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near to God. He shall speak to the people from his cradle and in maturity, and shall be of the righteous.'

She said: 'O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?' He said: 'Even so; God creates what He will. When He decrees a thing, He says to it, "Be!" and it is.' (Quran, 3:42-7)

Jesus was born miraculously through the same power which had brought Adam into being without a father:

Truly, the likeness of Jesus with God is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, and then said to him, 'Be!' and he was. (Quran, 3:59)

During his prophetic mission Jesus performed many miracles. The Quran tells us that he said:

I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it and it becomes a bird by God's leave. And I heal the blind, and the lepers and I raise the dead by God's leave. (Quran, 3:49)

Neither Muhammad nor Jesus came to change the basic doctrine of the belief in One God, brought by earlier prophets, but to confirm and renew it. In the Quran Jesus is reported as saying that he came:

To attest the law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden you; I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so fear God and obey Me. (Quran, 3:5O)

The Prophet Muhammad said:

Whoever believes there is no god but God, alone without partner, that Muhammad is His messenger, that Jesus is the servant and messenger of God, His word breathed into Mary and a spirit emanating from Him, and that Paradise and Hell are true, shall be received by God into Heaven. (Hadith from Bukhari)

What does Islam say about war?

Like Christianity, Islam permits fighting in self-defense, in defense of religion, or on the part of those who have been expelled forcibly from their homes. It lays down strict rules of combat which include prohibitions against harming civilians and against destroying crops, trees and livestock. As Muslims see it, injustice would be triumphant in the world if good men were not prepared to risk their lives in a righteous cause. The Quran says:

Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors. (2:190)

If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that heareth and knoweth all things. (8:61)

War, therefore, is the last resort, and is subject to the rigorous conditions laid down by the sacred law. The term jihad literally means 'struggle', and Muslims believe that there are two kinds of jihad. The other 'jihad' is the inner struggle which everyone wages against egotistic desires, for the sake of attaining inner peace.

How does Islam guarantee human rights?

Freedom of conscience is laid down by the Quran itself: 'There is no compulsion in religion'. (2:256)

The life and property of all citizens in an Islamic state are considered sacred whether a person is Muslim or not.

Racism is incomprehensible to Muslims, for the Quran speaks of human equality in the following terms:

O mankind! We created you from a single soul, male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, so that you may come to know one another. Truly, the most honored of you in God's sight is the greatest of you in piety. God is All-Knowing, All Aware (49-13)

"But at least as long as affronts like Wilders film persist, we won't hear those voices."

Good fences make for good neighbors. Wilders is a jerk. Why should we care what he thinks? Refuse to give him free publicity. Fence him out. It would be a better use of time and bandwidth to report on the success of some nice young person at the local high school. Even a photo of a nice dog would be better.

Muslims believes prophet jesus muslım belıves all the prophets because qoran says but the people who are not muslım do not respect Muhammed(sav). Muhammed (sav) likes the people and respect to every human being because Allah create the human being.is it really hard to respect ? why are the people afraıd of realıty ? islam is real what the people say nothıng wıll cahnge real ıs real.ıadvice read the qoran carefully. Jesus will come the world to call the people to ıslam and christians will accept.therefore people should thınk very carefully about the realıty.

What a puerile commentary this is! What a load of self-evident, kindergarten-level concepts! So the violence committed in the name of Islam has some social-political-cultural basis, apart from the religious itself... and violence is not the daily activity of every Muslim in the world... Well, duh!

As for the issue itself, we err if we think that this conflict is East-vs-West, Islam-vs-Judaism or Christianity. That is just the superficial form it takes. The real conflict is fanaticism-vs-rationality. The only people who can stop fanatical Muslims are rational Muslims. They are the ones who must reclaim their faith from the crazies. It is not enough for them to denounce the violence; they must denounce the fanatical clerics who preach hatred. If the vast majority of the world's Muslims are, indeed, rational and do not commit or condone violence, they must muzzle and marginalize the few who are fanatics.

So where are they? Are they afraid to stand up in the mosque where a fanatical cleric is preaching hatred, and publicly condemn that person for disgracing their faith? If so, then their faith must mean very little to them. When America was attacked at Pearl Harbor in 1941, millions of people enlisted to fight in a war in which they knew they might die; they enlisted and fought anyway, because they were defending their nation. Are the rational people of Islam so much less dedicated to their faith that they will not risk their lives to defend it? Because it is not just the West that is under attack; like a cancer, Islamic fanaticism is an attack against Islam itself.

Fanaticism cannot be bombed out of existence; it can only be gradually starved out, and the only tool for doing that is the worldwide promotion of rationality. It is genuinely tragic that America, which should have led the world in promoting rationality, has been under an administration that denigrates rationality and promotes fanaticism--a different brand of fanaticism, but fanaticism nonetheless. But that is a problem for rational Americans to solve; Islamic fanaticism is a problem for rational Muslims to solve.

islam is the only valid religion in the world even u accept or not u can not see any picture or cartoon that humililates isa(christ)becasu all the prophets send by Allah is the sacret for muslims. Today now muslım is the last and the best way of salvation there is no way beacuse when the islam comes the others ended.This is so clear but ı recommend u all the people should focus on qoran for themselves the people who humilates the islam shows his weakness only week people humilate.people in the world should understand the message of ıslam ıslam calls for peace not for fight but ıf there isa threatment to ıslam then fightining becomes a duty this is so logıcal ı understnad the peolpe who tries to humilate the muslim they realısed the power of ıslam .ıslam ıs powerful because of Allah not anythıng else do not forget;search the ıslam by the deeply then u understand the beautiful of ıslam . ıf a muslım bad personn thıs ıs not fault of islam this is fault of that person becasuse ıslam ıs send by Allah therefore there can not be mistake in it. ıslam send to all humanıty chrıstıan jews ateist or somethıngelse not ımportant:the ımportant one ıs word of Allah and the messenger Muhammed(SAV)THEREİSA GRETA AND IMPORTANT MESSAGE BY ALLAH ;obey the way of muhammed(sav).ı recoomended strongly :search the ısalm deeply than u understnad what is reai what is not.Allah says"ıf ı do not create the muhammed(sav) ı would not crate the world.

Well from today mornign till now i am reading this post and got one message that ppl who are talking abt each other relegion are idiots and are foolish.what relaiogn have to do wiht voilence.you c around the world all voilence is happening just because one country is holding other country by power.
i ask this question from all of the ppl who read this post and write there coments that if u someone enters at ur home as guest and then throw u from ur own house what will u do? or if someone comes and kick u out from ur home and takes the charge by power what will u do?
obviously you wil fight and that is what muslims are doing they are fighting for there rights.
here i dont know what kind of mentality is it that saying bad things to one another and talking rubbish abt one another relegion is kind of game for them.

shame on you all who are involving relegions in this.search for the truth and then say somethign i beleive accept few all are fools who dont know anything but just wana say some thing.

Freedom of speech differs an insulting speech. One is punishable by law in the US and the other is not much favored but not punishable legally.

One has to realise and study the limitation of freedom of speech before he opens the mouth and shouts rabish.

I don't exactly remmember the name of the US presidnet who showed a finger to one of the reporters and later on he was sued and impeached due a misconduct behavior.

Tell me how that could not be considered a freedom of speech????? Yes it was offensive to the other side.

Isn't communication the relationship of words among the two sides or simply said two people? If one says some to hurt the other one with out a reasonable cause then he has comitted a crime which is not covered under the pretext of freedom of speech.

The cartoon and lies of the Danish boy who lost his virginty to a cow will not be a freedom of speech, it is rather an insult to two billion belivers and lovers of the relegion who by the way did not accept it blindly.

Unless his A S S itching he wouldn't want steep low to do such a thing just to decieve the world. Voilance lead to voilance and no matter how peacefull you are you will fall in it.. mark my words when that happens. watch the youtube.com you will see daily peaceful christians getting into street fights.

Voilance does not have relegion... stay away if you could.

Kenna is Right and i agree with her its not a freedom of speach its only the way to put their ego on society.These kind of ppl are everywhere and in every time.

Inciting hate is not a freedom of speech, this small group of journalist try to impose thier ego on society in the name of freedom

It seems to me that thou doth protest too much. That is, you still ignore the fact that in the koran thaere are very very many admonitions to the followers of islam to carry the message into the world on a sword, by violence, and kill all who oppose. Most people can be kind and loving then turn around and be mean and nasty. Look at this blog.

It is very depressing that as Muslims, many of the commentators have not risen above the hatred in these posts to put proper view of the Muslim world and instead of enlightened dialog we have name calling and curse words. First of all the Prophet Muhammad stated that every religion should have the right to worship and is free to believe what they want, neither he nor any other being on this earth will decide a person's fate and that it is God's will to choose who he sends to heaven and who he sends to hell. He also never married a nine year old rather his wife was 15 at the time because she had to have had her period to have been able to get married and what he did has to be taken in the context of 15th century. In America till the 1900s it was okay for a 12 year old to get married, and it is still okay for 16 years olds to have kids need I mention Jamie Lynn Spears. Lastly what Muslims find objective is not that people question Islam as bieng a violent religion it is rather the fact that the put pictures of the Prophet (pbuh) as an evil person, this person who loved humanity so much, and was considered a friend to all. There is a story of the Prophet that says that he was asleep one day in his garden and a cat came and slept in his sleeve, when he woke up to pray he realized that the cat was in his sleeve, and so he ripped his shirt using his other hand in order to let the cat sleep peacefully. For Muslims these stories and countless others show that the Prophet loved humanity and wanted equality and to show him spreading hatred is hurtful. I speak for many Muslims when I say put pictures of other Muslims burning and bombing things and we won't mind but leave our prophet (pbuh) alone.

One comment above says "Muhammad (pbh) was sent as a mercy for the humankind. Read his autobiography and..."

The idea put forward by many of our Muslim commenters here is that we (non-Muslims) shouldn't say anything unkind about Islam's prophet because we are ignorant of his life and work. If we knew him we would love him, I guess.

Are we now? Maybe some of us are not so ignorant. Some of us have read the hadith and found page after page of this like this:

Quote: "The military expeditions (Ghazawat, literally raid) in which the Messenger personally participated were twenty-six. Some say there were twenty-seven." Tabari IX:118 "The armies and raiding parties sent by the Messenger of Allah between the time he came to Medina and his death (ten years) was forty-eight." Tabari IX:115.

The accounts tell of tkilling, plunder and taking slaves, of giving captured women to the Prophet’s men. The writer was especially proud of the raids where the caravans and villages were taken by surprise. (Quote: Ibn 'Aun reported: ...The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water. He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith. Muslim Book 019, Number 4292 - also in Bukhari).

I could mention Asma bint Marwan, a mother killed by Islam’s prophet for criticizing him, but here is another incident of the same type, less known because the woman’s name is not given:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/038.sat.html#038.4348.

Some of us spend a lot of time reading Islamic sites like this one that makes it very clear what should happen to people that are critical of Islam and its prophet:
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec2.htm

The sad thing is that this attitude toward criticism of Islam and the actions of its prophet is for the most part typical of Muslim societies everywhere. This means that a person has no right to any opinion on the ethics and morality of the Quran and the actions of its prophet. This means there is no free speech, no freedom of religion and no human rights. This is what we see in Islamic societies.

Of course Mohammed didnt write any autobiography. It wasn't until about 750AD that Ibn Ishaq wrote the earliest known biography of Muhammad (but the original is lost and all that is left is a later recension by Ibn Hisham). This was over a hundred years after he died. This and the hadith are the materials that Muslims use to build the Sunnah (teachings of the prophet). This is the same materials critics use, the only diufference is that critics don't skip all the pages with 'bad' stuff.

Muslims cannot be honest about their religion and their dear prophet. To get along with Muslims and "respect" them, you must also be dishonest about these things. You must must pretend that the hate and violence in the Quran and hadith have nothing to do with Islam. You must pretend that the violence and oppression done by Mohammad also have nothing to do with Islam. Finally, you must pretend that the hate and violence we see Muslims doing today also have nothing to do with Islam.

Once again, the cartoons are appropriate. They are not funny but they illustrate the link between Islam and violence.

Things are going to get worse because Muslims are not honest about these things. They refuse to look at the soul of Islam and ask the hard questions. This is why the violence never ends. This is why it will get worse.

Kactuz

Thank goodness the world doesn't have to put up with the Old Testament Jews and the muslims at the same time! Talk about identical twins! You can tell them apart because a muslim will eat a camel but a Jew won't.

Wow! What a discussion!

What if we were all "human beings" and not blaming anyone or any religion? Who is at fault then? Is name calling, put-downs, aggression a religious thing or a personal choice? Because if it was a religion, many folks on this discussion are part of the same path.

NO ONE likes being treated with disdain, aggression or oppression. We like being loved, seen as valuable and when can that become universal? Not when these exchanges still go on.

You gotta follow your heart, but most people's hearts of full of pictures handed down from generations of mistakes that go on and on and then get engrained into our children through culture codes and our un-conscious reactions to life. Following the heart is not easy so to live peace you gotta control your lower nature that just wants to fight. That's what jihad means, BTW, to be engaged in an inner battle with yourself to let your higher nature dictate your actions.

OH, from a nutritional stand-point:

pork has parasites that are enclosed in cysts that heating or even cleanly raising standards do not kill. You get these nasty parasites when you eat pork. Parasites can cause, fatigue, joint pain, cancers, fungal overgrowth, major digestive problems and parasite are VERY hard to clear once they get in. Take a loot at any overweight person, they most likely have parasites. Candida diets, macro-biotic, anti-cancer diets, will show you this, no pork, no read meat etc etc.

I used to live in napa valley, CA, when the migrant workers had to come out in radiation suits head to toe to spray grapes with toxic pesticides. If you're not eating organic, drinking organic and watching what the meat industry is doing to your food, you better start, because 1 in 3 get cancer now.

We can't tell anyone else what they can do with their life, that's between them and their creator whatever they view that to be. But if you want to live in peace, you gotta start within yourself and clear out the haze. Practicing self control means your voice is heard with your choice, love or hate, violence or peace, all the world is a reflection of what you hold inside and then choose to read, eat, drink or purchase.

It is true that all muslims believe that eventually there is going to be a jihad that will result in islamic world dominance. It is a paradise on earth - from their perspective. Of course this is silly. You can judge a people by the way they treat their own weakest members. While there are no nations that have completely solved their problems of poverty and suffering, some are worse than others. Fear and ignorance are still the masters of mankind as a whole, we are near the point where that will have to change. If we all worked together to end suffering it would take less than two weeks to reach paradise. We don't need a dead prophet-warrior leading a billion plus "followers" over the brink. Once all the hotheads kill each other, then maybe there will be enough of us left to make it a real paradise on earth.

Western pride "Freedom of speech":

Interesting to read how well European people use "freedom of speech" in their comments. Where was "freedom of speech" when a German was sentenced to 30 months jail for simply denying holocaust? Isn't this his right to deny or accept anything?

Unfortunately, it's a media dominated world and events of cartoons and film only encourages hatred towards Muslims. These events show Danish arrogance and complete ignorance about ISLAM in the name of "Freedom of speech".

For Muslims, I would say, there is no known portrait of Prophet Mohammad S.A.W. so why give an ignorant Danish journalist an honor of creating one (portrait/picture/cartoon) after 1376 years of demise of Prophet S.A.W.

Lastly, just a word of advice for all non-Muslims. Holy Quran is not written as physics or chemistry or bible. In order to understand Quran in its entirety, one has to refer to the events that happened at the time of revelations. Those events are compiled in very authentic Islamic literatures, which can be easily found on internet/ in libraries. I am sure the producer has simply read Quran as English story (Quran translate in English) and produced this film, without doing this research, just to appease and support his cartoonist friend's "freedom of speech" cause.

Regards

I have seen the infamous cartoons. Some of them are quite funny, and make valid political points (in my opinion). Jesus Christ is often made a figure of ridicule in Western art and political commentary. In Dante's Inferno, Mohammed is depicted as dwelling in one of the lowest circles of Hell, split almost in two as punishment for the sin of heresy. To seek a "middle way" between the freedom of intellect and the howling of Islamic hysterics is pitiable. This posting by Mr. Fairweather is absurd.

I have disapproved of Christian evangelizing and proselytizing among persons here and abroad with their own views of God so I don't blame Middle Easterners or Chinese or Hindus for resenting holier-than-thou types from the West challenging their belief systems. Let's get our missionaries and Jesus freaks our of their hair.

I used to think the jews were predjudiced aginst the muslims - rather racist and supremacist. They would tell me how awful the arabs were and I protested - saying all people are the same. If only! People may be the same, but the cultures they live in are not. The world has benefited so from jews in science and medicine, and now the world (especially the third world) suffers from the lies spread by Saudi Arabia, read the koran and you will find countless messages of violence and threats to nonmuslims. If the jews did control the world, we wouldn't have to be worrying about the jihad movemnet, because they would have nipped i