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McCain's Radical Foreign Policy

Amid the din of the dueling Democrats, people seem to have forgotten about that other guy in the presidential race-you know, John McCain. McCain is said to be benefiting from this politically because his rivals are tearing each other apart. In fact, few people are paying much attention to what the Republican nominee is saying, or subjecting it to any serious scrutiny.

On March 26, McCain gave a speech on foreign policy in Los Angeles that was billed as his most comprehensive statement on the subject. It contained within it the most radical idea put forward by a major candidate for the presidency in 25 years. Yet almost no one noticed.

In his speech McCain proposed that the United States expel Russia from the G8, the group of advanced industrial countries. Moscow was included in this body in the 1990s to recognize and reward it for peacefully ending the cold war on Western terms, dismantling the Soviet empire and withdrawing from large chunks of the old Russian Empire as well. McCain also proposed that the United States should expand the G8 by taking in India and Brazil-but pointedly excluded China from the councils of power.

We have spent months debating Barack Obama's suggestion that he might, under some circumstances, meet with Iranians and Venezuelans. It is a sign of what is wrong with the foreign-policy debate that this idea is treated as a revolution in U.S. policy while McCain's proposal has barely registered. What McCain has announced is momentous-that the United States should adopt a policy of active exclusion and hostility toward two major global powers. It would reverse a decades-old bipartisan American policy of integrating these two countries into the global order, a policy that began under Richard Nixon (with Beijing) and continued under Ronald Reagan (with Moscow). It is a policy that would alienate many countries in Europe and Asia who would see it as an attempt by Washington to begin a new cold war.

I write this with sadness because I greatly admire John McCain, a man of intelligence, honor and enormous personal and political courage. I also agree with much of what else he said in that speech in Los Angeles. But in recent years, McCain has turned into a foreign-policy schizophrenic, alternating between neoconservative posturing and realist common sense. His speech reads like it was written by two very different people, each one given an allotment of a few paragraphs on every topic.

The neoconservative vision within the speech is essentially an affirmation of ideology. Not only does it declare war on Russia and China, it places the United States in active opposition to all nondemocracies. It proposes a League of Democracies, which would presumably play the role that the United Nations now does, except that all nondemocracies would be cast outside the pale. The approach lacks any strategic framework. What would be the gain from so alienating two great powers? How would the League of Democracies fight terrorism while excluding countries like Jordan, Morocco, Egypt and Singapore? What would be the gain to the average American to lessen our influence with Saudi Arabia, the central banker of oil, in a world in which we are still crucially dependent on that energy source?

The single most important security problem that the United States faces is securing loose nuclear materials. A terrorist group can pose an existential threat to the global order only by getting hold of such material. We also have an interest in stopping proliferation, particularly by rogue regimes like Iran and North Korea. To achieve both of these core objectives-which would make American safe and the world more secure-we need Russian cooperation. How fulsome is that likely to be if we gratuitously initiate hostilities with Moscow? Dissing dictators might make for a stirring speech, but ordinary Americans will have to live with the complications after the applause dies down.

To reorder the G8 without China would be particularly bizarre. The G8 was created to help coordinate problems of the emerging global economy. Every day these problems multiply-involving trade, pollution, currencies-and are in greater need of coordination. To have a body that attempts to do this but excludes the world's second largest economy is to condemn it to failure and irrelevance. International groups are not cheerleading bodies but exist to help solve pressing global crises. Excluding countries won't make the problems go away.

McCain appears to think that he can magically unite the two main strands in the Republican foreign-policy establishment. But he can't. This is not about personalities but about two philosophically divergent views of international affairs. Put together, they will produce infighting and incoherence. We have seen this movie before. We have watched an American president unable to choose between his ideologically driven vice president and his pragmatic secretary of State-and the result was the catastrophe of George W. Bush's first term. Twenty-five years earlier, we watched another president who believed that he could encompass the entire spectrum of foreign policy. He, too, gave speeches that were drafted by advisers with divergent world views: in that case, Cyrus Vance and Zbigniew Brzezinski. It led to the paralyzing internal battles of the Carter years. Does John McCain want to try this experiment one more time?

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McCain's Radical Foreign Policy
Amid the din of the dueling Democrats, people seem to have forgotten about that other guy in the presidential race-you know, John McCain. McCain is said to be benefiting from this politically because his rivals are tearing each other apart. In fact, few people are paying much attention to what the Republican nominee is saying, or subjecting it to any serious scrutiny.

On March 26, McCain gave a speech on foreign policy in Los Angeles that was billed as his most comprehensive statement on the subject. It contained within it the most radical idea put forward by a major candidate for the presidency in 25 years. Yet almost no one noticed.

In his speech McCain proposed that the United States expel Russia from the G8, the group of advanced industrial countries. Moscow was included in this body in the 1990s to recognize and reward it for peacefully ending the cold war on Western terms, dismantling the Soviet empire and withdrawing from large chunks of the old Russian Empire as well. McCain also proposed that the United States should expand the G8 by taking in India and Brazil-but pointedly excluded China from the councils of power.

We have spent months debating Barack Obama's suggestion that he might, under some circumstances, meet with Iranians and Venezuelans. It is a sign of what is wrong with the foreign-policy debate that this idea is treated as a revolution in U.S. policy while McCain's proposal has barely registered. What McCain has announced is momentous-that the United States should adopt a policy of active exclusion and hostility toward two major global powers. It would reverse a decades-old bipartisan American policy of integrating these two countries into the global order, a policy that began under Richard Nixon (with Beijing) and continued under Ronald Reagan (with Moscow). It is a policy that would alienate many countries in Europe and Asia who would see it as an attempt by Washington to begin a new cold war.

I write this with sadness because I greatly admire John McCain, a man of intelligence, honor and enormous personal and political courage. I also agree with much of what else he said in that speech in Los Angeles. But in recent years, McCain has turned into a foreign-policy schizophrenic, alternating between neoconservative posturing and realist common sense. His speech reads like it was written by two very different people, each one given an allotment of a few paragraphs on every topic.

The neoconservative vision within the speech is essentially an affirmation of ideology. Not only does it declare war on Russia and China, it places the United States in active opposition to all nondemocracies. It proposes a League of Democracies, which would presumably play the role that the United Nations now does, except that all nondemocracies would be cast outside the pale. The approach lacks any strategic framework. What would be the gain from so alienating two great powers? How would the League of Democracies fight terrorism while excluding countries like Jordan, Morocco, Egypt and Singapore? What would be the gain to the average American to lessen our influence with Saudi Arabia, the central banker of oil, in a world in which we are still crucially dependent on that energy source?

The single most important security problem that the United States faces is securing loose nuclear materials. A terrorist group can pose an existential threat to the global order only by getting hold of such material. We also have an interest in stopping proliferation, particularly by rogue regimes like Iran and North Korea. To achieve both of these core objectives-which would make American safe and the world more secure-we need Russian cooperation. How fulsome is that likely to be if we gratuitously initiate hostilities with Moscow? Dissing dictators might make for a stirring speech, but ordinary Americans will have to live with the complications after the applause dies down.

To reorder the G8 without China would be particularly bizarre. The G8 was created to help coordinate problems of the emerging global economy. Every day these problems multiply-involving trade, pollution, currencies-and are in greater need of coordination. To have a body that attempts to do this but excludes the world's second largest economy is to condemn it to failure and irrelevance. International groups are not cheerleading bodies but exist to help solve pressing global crises. Excluding countries won't make the problems go away.

McCain appears to think that he can magically unite the two main strands in the Republican foreign-policy establishment. But he can't. This is not about personalities but about two philosophically divergent views of international affairs. Put together, they will produce infighting and incoherence. We have seen this movie before. We have watched an American president unable to choose between his ideologically driven vice president and his pragmatic secretary of State-and the result was the catastrophe of George W. Bush's first term. Twenty-five years earlier, we watched another president who believed that he could encompass the entire spectrum of foreign policy. He, too, gave speeches that were drafted by advisers with divergent world views: in that case, Cyrus Vance and Zbigniew Brzezinski. It led to the paralyzing internal battles of the Carter years. Does John McCain want to try this experiment one more time?

Posted by Fareed Zakaria on April 28, 2008 7:13 AM

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Is Lord Obama Seaking before the VFW? is that like Satan Adressing the college of Cardinals isn't it?
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I just asked a question in regards to outrageous claims like these. Find my question and prove it if you can.. I doubt it though.
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They need a good laugh once in a while,
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I beg your pardon....I happen to be a member of the VFW and I am voting for Obama. When and where did YOU serve?
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your analogy is laughable! keep working at it, someday you may get it right
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Kind of like Richard Simmons speaking to the He-man Women Haters Club.
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ur scary weird dude
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Like leaving the wolf to guard the sheep...! Although don't you think that a lot of those guys would just love to have at him!
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Why do we worry about islamic extremists in the middle east when we've got religious nut jobs like you here.
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I wonder if someone is holding up signs saying applaud now.

I just turned it on. When they clap you can barely hear them. Its kind of as if they are asleep or dont give a hoot what he is saying.
Now when McCain speaks to a military crowd the roof comes off the house.
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Well... Watch the Democrat Convention and see what color smoke comes out...
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those are the Angry vets mostly the draftees that are not very happy with America I know some Vets that don't like this country because of their experience. they have earned their right to dissent and even oppose this country. i have no dispute with them. If some of them have drank the Koo-laid let them wallow in the stupor
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i served for 6 years in the military and support BARRAK OBAMA where did you serve
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the truest historiansof events of world may consider parvez and goerge as greatest leaders and some greatest warriors to attain world peace. dr roy suggested today , monday that parvez musharraf and george w bush may jointly be declared as winners of nobel peace prize as leaders of world peace attained though in some controversies. 1 second ago - Edit - Delete Source(s):
the rev dr kamal karna k roy aka joseph geronimo jr a guam born u s presidential gop hopeful and candidate for gop president 2008 nov 4 election. cmpaign office outsourced ( & at large usa & in USA.
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complaints cilvil filed by dr roy gop egal hopeful to remove mccain and obama from pres election ballot for elec scheduled on nov 4, 2008, on a/c these candidates failed to establish u s birth as per u s const or to order suspension of election due corruption in campain 2007-08 and illeal entrants to candicdacy, investigations by homelans security det, usa govt, republican national committee washington dc et al 3400+ defendants including us human animals' conceived god/s. u no all defendant failed candidate toy harmed 3550 plaintiffs including candidate gop kamal k k roy 7 TO PLACE KAMAL K K ROY GOP AND HILLARY CLINTON ON BALLOT AS OBAMA FAILED TO PROVE LEGAL STATUS SEE FEDERAL JUSTOA DOCKET IN 4/5 DAYS WITH PLAINTIFF "ROY" AND/OR WEB SEARCH "KAMAL KARNA ROY"

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0!#38 - Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:30 AM CDTgina bowersYou may laugh, but I believe McCain is talking about cutting out all pork. Even in the housing rescue bill that they passed, there was so much pork in that bill it is just unbelievable. We MUST hold our Politicians accountable, it just does not stop.
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Among other things, yes. We all know what he meant was to cut back on ridiculous spending and he's absolutely correct.

Also, you don't stimulate an economy by introducing higher taxation. It doesn't work. McCain is for the middle income person, the small business owner and has a sound economic policy, something that Obama does not.
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Paternity AND security. We need both.
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You have mis-quoted that statement. i watched to forum twice. he said governent wastes money on junk like bear reasearch in Montana , he was giving an example of waste. in earlier years california got federal funding of 10 million plus a year to study the growth habits of cranberrys. more government waste. money better spent on other things. that has nothing to do with tax cuts for the weatlthy it has to do with waste in goverment spending. so if your gonna quote next time , watch what was actually said in the situation. so many ar Answer Report Abuse Sorry, you must be Level 2 to rate

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The vast majority of bear research in this country is privately funded, so no.
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Yes, It would help to get rid of that program and other wasteful ones like it. McCain is against pork-barrel spending. Aren't you? How fair is it to spend our tax money studying DNA of bears, 3 million dollars,,, ridiculous, and I bet the recipient was related to the senator that put that in a bill..we have to stop over-spending.
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Unfortunately, though this sort of stuff sounds great because no one feels like the bear research money is well-spent, the earmarks don't actually add up to enough money in total to finance McCain's tax cuts. Most of the earmarks you see in Congress are legit, actually, they just specify how the money is spent.

So you might find the occasional story about $10m for bear research or $20m for a highway, but these rarely add up to much of the whole federal budget (which has to be used to finance social security, provide education and highway grants, pay the salaries of millions of federal employees, fund the personnel, R&D, and equipment costs of the world's most expensive military and fight two wars with it and so forth) and as far as can be told, McCain cannot cut taxes the amount he has claimed he will without also cutting social programs in a way that will actually and genuinely hurt people. I am all for getting the government's **** in order, but don't expect it to do that much and don't expect this tax pledge to work out just fine and dandy for all of you.
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It is funny that people wanting to raise taxes never want to cut "pork" out of budgets. I had not heard about the tax cuts for the rich and oil companies being part of a McCain tax plan so just throwing more smears in to see if you can score a point? Cutting earmark funding for pet projects has always been a desire of Sen McCain, why he voted against the DHL deal was because of projects attached to the bill for funding pork projects. It is really hard to say how much could be saved if this was stopped but would be a substantial amount. I happen to think a line item veto is the way to go and allow the President to cut things out of a bill or the budget such as bear research, cow gas research, and so on. If it is a worthwhile project then Congress could over ride and get the money independently. Every military spending bill will have many amendments attached because if some one votes against it they are anti-military (used by both parties). The undisputed "King of Pork" is Sen Byrd of West Virginia and he is famous for adding a goody for the state, his constituency or backers into almost every bill.
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by Jane R Member since: August 04, 2008 Total points: 3 (Level 1) it may be a joke anyway.pl follow below if u can afford a small time for us;
new york, world news 8.18.2008: the following is a repackaged opinion of the rev dr kamal karna roy , a gop leader and legal contestant gop presidentilo lectoral competition 2008. dr roy, a fec registered candidate as a candidate to u s a gop president 2008 in usa against john s mccain, us senatior:
as the president musarraf decided on monday to resign as presdent of pakistan on monday, 8.18. 2008, mt musharefproved when ti step into power and when to gracefully exit from power.when he entered politics in pakistan,pakistan was a melting pot of corrution and crueltry. when in aftermath of 9/11 worst type terrorist attac at w t center in new york city, he joined as a working general *** civilian leader to work with mr president george bush of usa.he actedlike a modern time winston churchil since world war II in 1944's. He was immensely successful to fight terrorism in suth asia as an ally of a great civilaian leader cumu s president hon george w bush who will retire from power in usa on 1. 20.2009. terrorism wold wide did not stop but it needed to be controlled. the rev dr roy, a dop presidential candidate expressioned opinion that one who helps in need is a friend indeed.Perez mussharraf after his resination is effected must receive all u s american security protection help during early years of exit from power as the fighter against terrorism is often victim when power is exited. musharraf and george w Bush had been two of the greatest presidents of the world who tactically faught terrorism as common warrior in warfronts to promise life for war to gain world peace. The modern history may be somewhat unkind to honorable leaders of two distant nations but the truest historiansof events of world may consider parvez and goerge as greatest leaders and some greatest warriors to attain world peace. dr roy suggested today , monday that parvez musharraf and george w bush may jointly be declared as winners of nobel peace prize as leaders of world peace attained though in some controversies. 1 second ago - Edit - Delete Source(s):
the rev dr kamal karna k roy aka joseph geronimo jr a guam born u s presidential gop hopeful and candidate for gop president 2008 nov 4 election. cmpaign office outsourced ( & at large usa & in USA.
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bill will have many amendments attached because if some one votes against it they are anti-military (used by both parties). The undisputed "King of Pork" is Sen Byrd of West Virginia and he is famous for adding a goody for the state, his constituency or backers into almost every bill.
27 minutes ago 0 Rating: Good Answer 1 Rating: Bad Answer Report Abuse Sorry, you must be Level 2 to rate FORMER PRESIDENT OF pAKISTAN PERVEZ MUSHARRAF WHO HAD BEEN MOST TRUTHFUL ALLY OF USA FOR CURHIN TERRORISM ON GLOBE ,MAY BE GIVEN FULLEST U S AMERICAN HELP FOR MAINTAINING HI SAFETY, WELFARE AND HIS CONTINUEDPROMISE O MORAL LEADERSHIP IN CONTINUING ENVIRONMENT OF TERRORISM. lONG LIVE MUSHARRAF A STRATEGIC GREAT POLITICIAN IN THE WARFARE OF TERRORISM ALL AROUND THE GLOBE. cOMMENTS FROM IDEOLOGY OF THE REV DR KAMAL ROY , A GOP POLITICIAN WITH REDELOPEDIDOLOGIES OF ETHICS.

new york, world news 8.18.2008: the following is a repackaged opinion of the rev dr kamal karna roy , a gop leader and legal contestant gop presidentiAl Electoral competition 2008. dr roy, a fec registered candidate as a candidate to u s a gop president 2008 in usa against john s mccain, us senatior:
as the FORMER president musHarraf HAD decided on monday to resign as presdent of pakistan on monday, 8.18. 2008, mt musharefproved when ti step into power and when to gracefully exit from power.when he entered politics in pakistan,pakistan was a melting pot of corruPtion and crueltry. when in aftermath of 9/11 worst type terrorist attacK at w t center in new york city, he joined as a working general *** civilian leader to work with mr president george bush of usa.he actedl ike a modern time winston churchil since world war II in 1944's. He was immensely successful to fight terrorism in suth asia as an ally of a great civilaian leader cumu s president hon george w bush who will retire from power in usa on 1. 20.2009. terrorism wold wide did not stop but it needed to be controlled. the rev dr roy, a dop presidential candidate expressioned opinion that one who helps in need is a friend indeed.Perez mussharraf after his resination is effected must receive all u s american security protection help during early years of exit from power as the fighter against terrorism is often victim when power is exited. musharraf and george w Bush had been two of the greatest presidents of the world who tactically faught terrorism as common warrior in warfronts to promise life for war to gain world peace. The modern history may be somewhat unkind to honorable leaders of two distant nations but the truest historiansof events of world may consider parvez and goerge as greatest leaders and some greatest warriors to attain world peace. dr roy suggested today , monday that parvez musharraf and george w bush may jointly be declared as winners of nobel peace prize as leaders of world peace attained though in some controversies. 1 second ago - Edit - Delete Source(s):
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complaints cilvil filed by dr roy gop egal hopeful to remove mccain and obama from pres election ballot for elec scheduled on nov 4, 2008, on a/c these candidates failed to establish u s birth as per u s const or to order suspension of election due corruption in campaiGn 2007-08 and illeal entrants to candiDAdacy, investigations by homelans security det, usa govt, republican national committee washington dc et al 3400+ defendants including us human animals' conceived god/s. u no all defendant failed candidate toy harmed 3550 plaintiffs including candidate gop kamal k k roy & TO PLACE KAMAL K K ROY GOP AND HILLARY CLINTON ON BALLOT AS OBAMA FAILED TO PROVE HIS LEGAL STATUS SEE FEDERAL JUSTIA DOCKET IN 4/5 DAYS WITH PLAINTIFF "ROY" AND/OR WEB SEARCH "KAMAL KARNA ROY" . IN THE EVENT A TEMORARY OR ACTING U S PRESIDENY BE APPOINTED BY U S HOUSE WITH CONSENT OF U S SEANATE AS PROVIDED IN LAWS AND U S CONSTITUTION, TO FILL VACUUM OF US ELECTED PRESIDENCY W E F 1. 20. 2009. tHE DEFENDANT IN THE SAID CIVIL ACTION FILED IN U S D COURT IN THE ESTERB DISTRICT OF WASHING 700 STEWART STREET , SEATTLE wa 98104 ,WAS LAWFULLY FILED AS ON 8.18. 2008 PL FOLLOW WEBS :KAMAL KARNA ROY "

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I just asked a question in regards to outrageous claims like these. Find my question and prove it if you can.. I doubt it though.
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They need a good laugh once in a while,
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I beg your pardon....I happen to be a member of the VFW and I am voting for Obama. When and where did YOU serve?
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your analogy is laughable! keep working at it, someday you may get it right
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Kind of like Richard Simmons speaking to the He-man Women Haters Club.
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ur scary weird dude
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Like leaving the wolf to guard the sheep...! Although don't you think that a lot of those guys would just love to have at him!
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Why do we worry about islamic extremists in the middle east when we've got religious nut jobs like you here.
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I wonder if someone is holding up signs saying applaud now.

I just turned it on. When they clap you can barely hear them. Its kind of as if they are asleep or dont give a hoot what he is saying.
Now when McCain speaks to a military crowd the roof comes off the house.
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Well... Watch the Democrat Convention and see what color smoke comes out...
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those are the Angry vets mostly the draftees that are not very happy with America I know some Vets that don't like this country because of their experience. they have earned their right to dissent and even oppose this country. i have no dispute with them. If some of them have drank the Koo-laid let them wallow in the stupor
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i served for 6 years in the military and support BARRAK OBAMA where did you serve
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POLITICS OF NEGLECT OF REALITIES OF SITUATIONS: WHO MAY SOLVE SITUATION? WE THE PEOPLE IN USA SHOULD REVIEW ?
the truest historiansof events of world may consider parvez and goerge as greatest leaders and some greatest warriors to attain world peace. dr roy suggested today , monday that parvez musharraf and george w bush may jointly be declared as winners of nobel peace prize as leaders of world peace attained though in some controversies. 1 second ago - Edit - Delete Source(s):
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complaints cilvil filed by dr roy gop egal hopeful to remove mccain and obama from pres election ballot for elec scheduled on nov 4, 2008, on a/c these candidates failed to establish u s birth as per u s const or to order suspension of election due corruption in campain 2007-08 and illeal entrants to candicdacy, investigations by homelans security det, usa govt, republican national committee washington dc et al 3400+ defendants including us human animals' conceived god/s. u no all defendant failed candidate toy harmed 3550 plaintiffs including candidate gop kamal k k roy 7 TO PLACE KAMAL K K ROY GOP AND HILLARY CLINTON ON BALLOT AS OBAMA FAILED TO PROVE LEGAL STATUS SEE FEDERAL JUSTOA DOCKET IN 4/5 DAYS WITH PLAINTIFF "ROY" AND/OR WEB SEARCH "KAMAL KARNA ROY"

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0!#38 - Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:30 AM CDTgina bowersYou may laugh, but I believe McCain is talking about cutting out all pork. Even in the housing rescue bill that they passed, there was so much pork in that bill it is just unbelievable. We MUST hold our Politicians accountable, it just does not stop.
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Among other things, yes. We all know what he meant was to cut back on ridiculous spending and he's absolutely correct.

Also, you don't stimulate an economy by introducing higher taxation. It doesn't work. McCain is for the middle income person, the small business owner and has a sound economic policy, something that Obama does not.
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Paternity AND security. We need both.
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You have mis-quoted that statement. i watched to forum twice. he said governent wastes money on junk like bear reasearch in Montana , he was giving an example of waste. in earlier years california got federal funding of 10 million plus a year to study the growth habits of cranberrys. more government waste. money better spent on other things. that has nothing to do with tax cuts for the weatlthy it has to do with waste in goverment spending. so if your gonna quote next time , watch what was actually said in the situation. so many ar Answer Report Abuse Sorry, you must be Level 2 to rate

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The vast majority of bear research in this country is privately funded, so no.
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Yes, It would help to get rid of that program and other wasteful ones like it. McCain is against pork-barrel spending. Aren't you? How fair is it to spend our tax money studying DNA of bears, 3 million dollars,,, ridiculous, and I bet the recipient was related to the senator that put that in a bill..we have to stop over-spending.
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Unfortunately, though this sort of stuff sounds great because no one feels like the bear research money is well-spent, the earmarks don't actually add up to enough money in total to finance McCain's tax cuts. Most of the earmarks you see in Congress are legit, actually, they just specify how the money is spent.

So you might find the occasional story about $10m for bear research or $20m for a highway, but these rarely add up to much of the whole federal budget (which has to be used to finance social security, provide education and highway grants, pay the salaries of millions of federal employees, fund the personnel, R&D, and equipment costs of the world's most expensive military and fight two wars with it and so forth) and as far as can be told, McCain cannot cut taxes the amount he has claimed he will without also cutting social programs in a way that will actually and genuinely hurt people. I am all for getting the government's **** in order, but don't expect it to do that much and don't expect this tax pledge to work out just fine and dandy for all of you.
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It is funny that people wanting to raise taxes never want to cut "pork" out of budgets. I had not heard about the tax cuts for the rich and oil companies being part of a McCain tax plan so just throwing more smears in to see if you can score a point? Cutting earmark funding for pet projects has always been a desire of Sen McCain, why he voted against the DHL deal was because of projects attached to the bill for funding pork projects. It is really hard to say how much could be saved if this was stopped but would be a substantial amount. I happen to think a line item veto is the way to go and allow the President to cut things out of a bill or the budget such as bear research, cow gas research, and so on. If it is a worthwhile project then Congress could over ride and get the money independently. Every military spending bill will have many amendments attached because if some one votes against it they are anti-military (used by both parties). The undisputed "King of Pork" is Sen Byrd of West Virginia and he is famous for adding a goody for the state, his constituency or backers into almost every bill.
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new york, world news 8.18.2008: the following is a repackaged opinion of the rev dr kamal karna roy , a gop leader and legal contestant gop presidentilo lectoral competition 2008. dr roy, a fec registered candidate as a candidate to u s a gop president 2008 in usa against john s mccain, us senatior:
as the president musarraf decided on monday to resign as presdent of pakistan on monday, 8.18. 2008, mt musharefproved when ti step into power and when to gracefully exit from power.when he entered politics in pakistan,pakistan was a melting pot of corrution and crueltry. when in aftermath of 9/11 worst type terrorist attac at w t center in new york city, he joined as a working general *** civilian leader to work with mr president george bush of usa.he actedlike a modern time winston churchil since world war II in 1944's. He was immensely successful to fight terrorism in suth asia as an ally of a great civilaian leader cumu s president hon george w bush who will retire from power in usa on 1. 20.2009. terrorism wold wide did not stop but it needed to be controlled. the rev dr roy, a dop presidential candidate expressioned opinion that one who helps in need is a friend indeed.Perez mussharraf after his resination is effected must receive all u s american security protection help during early years of exit from power as the fighter against terrorism is often victim when power is exited. musharraf and george w Bush had been two of the greatest presidents of the world who tactically faught terrorism as common warrior in warfronts to promise life for war to gain world peace. The modern history may be somewhat unkind to honorable leaders of two distant nations but the truest historiansof events of world may consider parvez and goerge as greatest leaders and some greatest warriors to attain world peace. dr roy suggested today , monday that parvez musharraf and george w bush may jointly be declared as winners of nobel peace prize as leaders of world peace attained though in some controversies. 1 second ago - Edit - Delete Source(s):
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complaints cilvil filed by dr roy gop egal hopeful to remove mccain and obama from pres election ballot for elec scheduled on nov 4, 2008, on a/c these candidates failed to establish u s birth as per u s const or to order suspension of election due corruption in campaiGn 2007-08 and illeal entrants to candiDAdacy, investigations by homelans security det, usa govt, republican national committee washington dc et al 3400+ defendants including us human animals' conceived god/s. u no all defendant failed candidate toy harmed 3550 plaintiffs including candidate gop kamal k k roy & TO PLACE KAMAL K K ROY GOP AND HILLARY CLINTON ON BALLOT AS OBAMA FAILED TO PROVE HIS LEGAL STATUS SEE FEDERAL JUSTIA DOCKET IN 4/5 DAYS WITH PLAINTIFF "ROY" AND/OR WEB SEARCH "KAMAL KARNA ROY" . IN THE EVENT A TEMORARY OR ACTING U S PRESIDENY BE APPOINTED BY U S HOUSE WITH CONSENT OF U S SEANATE AS PROVIDED IN LAWS AND U S CONSTITUTION, TO FILL VACUUM OF US ELECTED PRESIDENCY W E F 1. 20. 2009. tHE DEFENDANT IN THE SAID CIVIL ACTION FILED IN U S D COURT IN THE ESTERB DISTRICT OF WASHING 700 STEWART STREET , SEATTLE wa 98104 WAS LAWFULLY FILED AS ON 8.18. 2008 PL FOLLOW WEBS :KAML KARA ROY "

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bill will have many amendments attached because if some one votes against it they are anti-military (used by both parties). The undisputed "King of Pork" is Sen Byrd of West Virginia and he is famous for adding a goody for the state, his constituency or backers into almost every bill.
27 minutes ago 0 Rating: Good Answer 1 Rating: Bad Answer Report Abuse Sorry, you must be Level 2 to rate FORMER PRESIDENT OF pAKISTAN PERVEZ MUSHARRAF WHO HAD BEEN MOST TRUTHFUL ALLY OF USA FOR CURHIN TERRORISM ON GLOBE ,MAY BE GIVEN FULLEST U S AMERICAN HELP FOR MAINTAINING HI SAFETY, WELFARE AND HIS CONTINUEDPROMISE O MORAL LEADERSHIP IN CONTINUING ENVIRONMENT OF TERRORISM. lONG LIVE MUSHARRAF A STRATEGIC GREAT POLITICIAN IN THE WARFARE OF TERRORISM ALL AROUND THE GLOBE. cOMMENTS FROM IDEOLOGY OF THE REV DR KAMAL ROY , A GOP POLITICIAN WITH REDELOPEDIDOLOGIES OF ETHICS.

new york, world news 8.18.2008: the following is a repackaged opinion of the rev dr kamal karna roy , a gop leader and legal contestant gop presidentiAl Electoral competition 2008. dr roy, a fec registered candidate as a candidate to u s a gop president 2008 in usa against john s mccain, us senatior:
as the FORMER president musHarraf HAD decided on monday to resign as presdent of pakistan on monday, 8.18. 2008, mt musharefproved when ti step into power and when to gracefully exit from power.when he entered politics in pakistan,pakistan was a melting pot of corruPtion and crueltry. when in aftermath of 9/11 worst type terrorist attacK at w t center in new york city, he joined as a working general *** civilian leader to work with mr president george bush of usa.he actedl ike a modern time winston churchil since world war II in 1944's. He was immensely successful to fight terrorism in suth asia as an ally of a great civilaian leader cumu s president hon george w bush who will retire from power in usa on 1. 20.2009. terrorism wold wide did not stop but it needed to be controlled. the rev dr roy, a dop presidential candidate expressioned opinion that one who helps in need is a friend indeed.Perez mussharraf after his resination is effected must receive all u s american security protection help during early years of exit from power as the fighter against terrorism is often victim when power is exited. musharraf and george w Bush had been two of the greatest presidents of the world who tactically faught terrorism as common warrior in warfronts to promise life for war to gain world peace. The modern history may be somewhat unkind to honorable leaders of two distant nations but the truest historiansof events of world may consider parvez and goerge as greatest leaders and some greatest warriors to attain world peace. dr roy suggested today , monday that parvez musharraf and george w bush may jointly be declared as winners of nobel peace prize as leaders of world peace attained though in some controversies. 1 second ago - Edit - Delete Source(s):
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HOW WELL DO VOTERS KNOW OBAMA...DO YOU KNOW? *** "CAN OBAMA BE PRESIDENT?

It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president after all for the following reason:

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986?

Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal US Law very clearly stipulates: ".If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship.

At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16 5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aforementioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. citizen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia.

Now you can see why Obama's aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. election law. I think the Gov. of California would be very interested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. citizen, and it would set precedence.

Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days."

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The oddest thing about the new Bush/McCain's anti-Russia stance is that they criticize it for not being a democratic country. However, it *is* in fact democratic. Nearly everyone agrees that recent elections there accurately reflect the will of the people of Russia. the Neocons simply refuse to accept that a country's government could sometimes oppose the will of the United States *and* still have the support of their people.

Inconceivable! After all, everyone wants to be *just like us.*

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Fareed,

Thank you for pointing this out. I will have to look more closely at McCain's foreign policy and try to understand what he is suggesting.

It is unfortunate that the media is unwilling to report on serious issues like this. Perhaps you should spend some time talking about the importance of sprinkles on donuts? Then they will pay attention.

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90% of the neocons are jewish americans, they support the hegemony of israel by any means possible, even if that means pitting the US against all arab countries to bleed each other to death. If americans are not careful this is going to happen, and the only winner is going to be CHINA the next superpower.
All for the sake of APARTHEID israel'd ethnic cleansing of palestinians.

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90% of the neocons are jewish americans, they support the hegemony of israel by any means possible, even if that means pitting the US against all arab countries to bleed each other to death. If americans are not careful this is going to happen, and the only winner is going to be CHINA the next superpower.
All for the sake of APARTHEID israel'd ethnic cleansing of palestinians.

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The reason nobody payed this proposal any attention is that it is so nuts. A simple sop to the anti-UN group, he appears that he would like to substitute the world with a fantasy world (like fantasy baseball) of "people like us". In the general election, I hope the other major and a bunch of the minor ones will put this back on the main burner to characterize McKie as the Lyndon Larouche of the present election.

HUSSEIN ELSHIBINI :

There is no doubt that the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan against the will of its people led to the demotivation of the military , exhaustion of the economy and ultimately collapse of the Soviet Empire.
This should be compared with the present American occupation ( officially called "liberation") of Iraq. After five years the actual results are as follows : a divided pro-American government whose authority does not extend beyond the so-called "Green Zone" , several thousands of American troops have lost their life , tens of thousands are disabled for life , and hundreds of thousands are presently suffering from post traumatic stress disorder. The cost of this war is having a clear impact on the American economy. I hope that the next American Administration would be responsible enough to admit that there is no country, whatever its might, with inexhaustible resources. Such a policy would be of great benefit to the US and the world as well.

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This presidential campaign cycle has led me to lose all respect for the so-called mainstream media. It's shocking that such a proposal from McCain is ignored by the MSM. Their priorities are so skewed, it's beyond comprehension. Thank you very much for pointing out McCain's statement to us.

What happened to the McCain of 2000? This 2008 version bears no likeness I can detect.


Bob:

If McCain's point is that the world's democracies need a forum, any forum, to meet, discuss, and air their views, where their expression of views will not be distorted by the participation of dictatorships like Russian and China, then I strongly agree.

Perhaps NATO could be reenvisioned to become a global organization and fill this role.

Russian and China did not invite the US to participate in their Shanghai Council, or whatever it's called.

Fareed, you're grasping at straws.

Neocon Empire:

Why can't these politicians understand that the best way to promote democracy is to live well rather than going around invading other countries while burying our country under mountains of debts? The Soviet empire collapsed because we showed the Russians that we were far wealthier and happier under a capitalistic democracy than they could ever be under a Communist dictatorship. Now, after 8 years of neocon rule, we are broke trying to impose our values on the world. The Chinese are laughing at us.

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DAE,You left out John F (got us into Vietnam, and shagged everyone but his wife) Kennedy, Jimmy (blundering through foriegn policy, and attacked Iran and failed) Carter, and William Jefferson (bombing childrens pharmaceutical plants, shagged his secretary, and several of his aides all committed "suicide") Clinton.
  You're right.  When you look at these Presidents, it just makes you shudder at the depths of ineptitude, unfaithfulness, and criminal behavior. 

MGLoraine:

One can only conclude that main-stream media is still doing the bidding of the Cheney White House. McCain goes around spouting absurd, bombastic nonsense like this every day, but it gets buried because the corporate sponsors know he sounds like a half-wit. Meanwhile, we are regaled with hour after hour of sound-bites and repetitive superficial analyses (i.e., speculation & prognostication by the usual pundits) regarding Rev. Wright and portions of comments he has made or is rumored to have made.

Rev. Wright is a man with opinions and a right to state them publicly. But he's not running for President, and he doesn't speak for or represent the candidate he is associated with. So who keeps trying to publicize Rev. Wright's every move while manipulating the coverage to conjure up some phony controversy? Who decides to plaster Rev. Wright's picture alongside dire predictions for Obama on the front page, while hiding items illustrating McCain's dementia / senility well in the back pages?

Cheney and Rove (or their wretched minions) are merely doing what they've been doing since 2000 - manipulating the media with influence peddling and intimidation in order to secure a third term for BushCo. And the media houses play right along, anything for a quick buck, a 'scoop', or an 'exclusive' interview.

Zathras:

A full defense of Sen. McCain's approach to foreign and national security affairs will have to come from someone other than me.

McCain has a long record in this area, one that reflects better than average judgment overall, but at the moment he appears to be a candidate in the general election who is still unsure that he really has the GOP nomination. This is reflected in a mix of positions intended to appeal to most voters (and that are generally consistent with those McCain held before the campaign began) and positions clearly adopted to appeal to the hard core of the Republican Party, the people who still admire President Bush. In an actual McCain administration, these two orientations could not coexist peacefully.

Having said that, I would point out that what we now call the G8 originated as a periodic gathering of the leaders of the major democracies. The Nixon administration thought it wise for the heads of governments sharing similar values to meet without being encumbered by hordes of staff and the restrictions of institutional protocol -- or by the participation of Communist dictatorships. This was not a radical approach, or one motivated by some new hostility to non-Western countries, but was instead an initiative to enable the democracies to increase their options to respond to challenges outside the security field in a timely way.

The G8 has grown beyond that vision; in many ways it has grown into precisely the kind of institution that Nixon's administration sought to bypass. In McCain's place I would be calling for expanding the G8 but convening it less frequently, say, every other year. In the years it did not meet I would attempt to resurrect the kind of informal council Nixon sought to create; its purpose would be less expansive than what McCain proposes, but its membership would be similar.

The fact is that China remains a country in which power is monopolized by the state, and Russia persists in seeking to undermine the independence of neighboring countries freed from the oppression of the old Soviet empire. No amount of American goodwill can paper over the serious differences between the governments of these countries and ours. Because once admitted to a large forum like the G8 their withdrawal for any reason would be regarded as a major diplomatic failure, the temptation to gloss over objectionable policy moves by either Russia or China -- whether Russian efforts to dismember Georgia or Chinese manipulation of the yuan -- would be considerable. It is therefore undesirable for an expanded G8, whether one thinks of this as "the councils of power" or not, to be the only forum in which the major powers interact with one another.

Periodic meetings among heads of government, representing major countries sharing democratic values, are a necessary and valuable thing, provided both the purposes and the limitations of such a forum are clearly understood beforehand. McCain's "League of Democracies," as he has described it, is grandiose and impractical, but contains at its core the important recognition that the free countries of the world can and should rest common action on their common values, as they have so often in the past.

Amir:

Just wanted to say, keep up the good work, Fareed. One of the few major media people out there who actually concentrate on important things.

lila:


Anyone who saw Bush's morning press conference

and who stil considers McCain, his foreign

policy clone , a realistic candidate---

Speak up. Show yourself to be an idiot.

The news conference was a horrid mix blundering

and outright lies. It was freaky.

Jim Hickland:

McCain's foreign policy approach cements a completely overlooked facet of his campaign for President. What people and our vaunted press fail to think about is that we're not really going to vote for a man, we are really voting thousands of bureaucrats who will rush in to fill the policy and administrative posts. If enough people vote for McCain, then he'll appoint/nominate the same corrupt incompetant crowd that's destroyed this nation over the past 8 years. Fortunately, McCain is a senile old coot that can barely string enough sentences together to form an intelligent paragraph. Eventually people will turn on him

Jim Hickland

Speranza:

Here's the thing. Statements like McCain's - and the absence of reaction to its absurdity - prove one thing for sure: America is now frightened of the world. If these were the words of a school boy about someone in the playground we'd have to ask, "What is he frightened of?" The answer is clear in this case. America is frightened that it has run out of juice and that it no longer has the character or wit to be able to pull itself out of the mire. It's going to be a long fall.

Robert Myers:

US politicians, indeed US citizens need to embrace a foreign policy that isn’t based on the presumption of always having foreign enemies. And, we need to significantly cut the military budget as part of this.

DAE:

As regards foreign policy, I'm of the age where I thought that no president could be worse than LB "how many kids have you killed today" J, then came Richard "Cambodian Incursion" Nixon, who could be worse than that? How about Ronald "Iran-Contra" Reagan, and the worst of the lot now reigning. Well it seems they all may be trumped by John 'know-nothing" McCain.

_kt_:

Could someone explain what the G8 does that is unique? We've got the WTO for trade and the UN for diplomacy. Is it just a rich guys club where we talk about how to arrange things for the benefit of the rich guys? If so, isn't that kind of obnoxious? I don't think I know enough about the G8 to evaluate McCain's proposal.

Ali:

Some one should tell Mr. McCain that the Cold War is over and there were no winners....just two losers, one lost early and went bankrupt, the second one is following the same path.... with about a 15 year delayed, slow-motion structure.

However, polls tell us that the same majority that re-elected George Bush now support Mr. McCain and the difference with the Democrats is very small.....

Pretty bad, or down-right dangerous?

Robert F. Zimmerman:

I suggest that Fareed come to Ukraine and Georgia to experience the first stirrings of Putin's efforts to keep these countries weak even if he cannot bring them back into his emerging Czarist Russia.

Robert F. Zimmerman:

I suggest that Fareed come to Ukraine and Georgia to experience the first stirrings of Putin's efforts to keep these countries weak even if he cannot bring them back into his emerging Czarist Russia.

Mark W.:

It's not radical to me, Nixon bombed Cambodia, so why would not Senator McCain suggest, "Bomb bomb Iran", talking about insensitivity to the effects of rhetoric on oil prices.

At a Highschool, McCain was challenged by a young person. His first impulse was to threaten that young person with "The Draft". May have been funny to him but people are watching.

Henry K. is a Consultant now. I wonder if he will become a revisionist historian as a paid Consultant ? Not too long about Henry hoped Arabs would be willing to form a cohesiveness relieving western boots on arab soils I would imagine. McCain said, "I won't go it alone", who knows what he would do.

Interesting thing is that Vietnam can be compared to regional limited incursions if one accepts the fact that North Vietnamese, Chinese, Laotians and Cambodians became active partners against our treaty obligations and strategic objectives, cough-cough.

Apparent to most of us looking at the planning stages of current and future detente' that everything is on hold until Elvis leaves the building for good.

Neocon Empire:

John McCain has always been a hawk on foreign policies. Many of his prior records demonstrated it over and over again. I agree with the main point of the article, but have to disagree on the assertion that neocons are ideologically motivated. They are not. Democracy is not what neoconservatism is about. Neocons are hostile to the democratically elected government of Palestine. They are more than happy to protect autocratic regimes like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

What neocons are trying to do is not spreading democracy, even though that may be what they say as a cover. I am going to be the kid that yell "the emperor has no clothes" since nobody else wants to say it. What the neocons aim to do is to cement a permanant world order in which the US is the center, with western Europe and its Anglo-Saxon civilization as the core of a vast empire that stretches all over the globe. Each country in the world has its predestined role.

Nations like the UK and Germany are the most trusted allies because they are afterall Anglo-Saxon. The French and Italians are part of the traditional western Judaic-Christian civilization and therefore still part of the core neocon empire. Then you have countries like Japan, which represent the less trustworthy members that play the role of agents around the world.

All great empires must have outsiders and opponents. Russia and China are naturally targets of the neocon empire. Like Japan, they are from completely different civilizations. Unlike Japan, they are not willing to submit to the "natural" order of the world of neoconservatism. What makes these two countries stand out from the rest is that they are powerful enough to threaten this order.

You can certainly explain a lot about the neocons by this vision of theirs.

Martin Edwin Andersen:

There is so much that is admirable about Sen. McCain, but setting up an advisors' food fight while what would be an increasingly out-of-touch president presides does not seem a wise bet to me.

The neo-cons are master apparatchiks and would, once the food starts flying, likely come out on top.

The combination of Wilsonian rhetoric and gunboat tactics may sound good, but the world is too complex a place, and we will likely end up being even more isolated.

Martin Edwin Andersen:

There is so much that is admirable about Sen. McCain, but setting up an advisors' food fight while what would be an increasingly out-of-touch president presides does not seem a wise bet to me.

The neo-cons are master apparatchiks and would, once the food starts flying, likely come out on top.

The combination of Wilsonian rhetoric and gunboat tactics may sound good, but the world is too complex a place, and we will likely end up being even more isolated.

A sad citizen:

Once again, an extremely well written & insightful article from Fareed Zakaria. Co-existence & economic interdependence is the key to world peace & unity. Nothing would ever be achieved by excluding 2 major powers: Russia & China from G8.& Americans think that McCain is electable!! & is the US a REAL democracy??? Wake up to reality, people! We are a nation that loves to preach democratic ideals to the world when our own house is in disorder: look at Katrina, our support of dictatorial regimes ALL OVER the world, & gross disparity of wealth in this nation!

Betty Hamilton:

This is a fabulous article, as always. Thanks for important insights and news.
I agree, McCain is confused or out to lunch. And I agree that the press is chasing pigs in a poke. Can you see the glee with which a Democrat will challenge McCain's embrace of preemptive war? No wonder the Democrats are fighting so hard for the nomination!!!

If the current world institutions do not function effectively, it is a problem with the attitudes and behaviors of the member states. Changing the sturctures will not change these attitudes. We need to get it right with the existing, though perhaps modified, structures already in place.

After all is said and done, McCain will not be able to construct new world institutions, because he is not a great coalition builder. Just like W.


If we want change, it begins with getting the external money out of governance.

Ken:

Yes, McCain's comments were alarming, if not scary! Instead of ignoring or irritating Russia with stupid missile defense shields at a cost of millions, we need to establish a positive relationship. Include India and Brazil, OK; ignore China, McCain you must be kidding! What I really fear, which appears to be increasngly possible, is that the Democrats are going to seize "Defeat" from the jaws of "Victory" in 2008 and McCain when President will try to resolve the strategic tragedy of Iraq by attacking Iran! Then, stand by!

Rich:

Sorry, members of the press are all busy checking lapel flags and don't have time for this...

bala srini:

is it a sign of the future, that american senatorial candidates in the upcoming presidential election exhibit lack of vision and mission, therby confirming to the world atlarge the apathy and beginnings of decay in the senate in particular and the american politics in general.we are getting so immersed in the murky quagmirish quicksands of middle-east that we are in a self induced and self imposed and self destructive path to second-class status.we are fast approaching the third-world status in major parameters of HEALTH,&EDUCATION & HUMAN VALUES.unless there is a grass route development in promoting awareness in these important matters of fundamentals i am afraid all these talks of foreign policy might be like spitting in the wind.the apathy and general malaise got to go and the country needs to be awakened;the question is who will;i know one who won't;HILLARY FOR SURE.

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Alex:

Excluding Russia from G8 is not a bad idea. I don't see anything in Russia which is related to G8: a club of richest democracies. BTW, if you cared to read official Russian press, you'd find out that declared enemy #1 of current Russian government is (surprise!) USA.
Diplomatic relations is quite another matter. As far as I see, McCain does not call for abolishment of UN. And, if you remember that Reagan improved relations with USSR, you should also remember what he said about USSR: "evil empire" comes to mind first.
I don't see McCain as a foreign policy radical. Not even compared to Nixon and Reagan.

Doug:

The contradictions in McCain's foreign policy will make themselves known soon enough in the upcoming presidential debates. Remember... we're still in the semi-finals. The lack of attention McCain has been receiving (due to overcoverage of the Democratic contest) will serve as the rope with which McCain will hang himself.

bob:

The MSM has also given McCain a free pass on conflating al-Queda with "insurgent" groups in Iraq, be they Sunni or Shi'a, homegrown or foreign. The Iraqi mess is complicated and complex -- keeping track of the Shi'a politicians, militias and motives alone requires a scorecard, not to mention the Sunni tribes and various Kurdish factions. Senator McCain's sloppy language is an added distraction that only clouds whatever policies he proposes -- and casts doubt on the mental processes behind the policies. After 7 1/2 years of this Admnistration's deceptive parsing of the language, you'd think the MSM would be more critical of phrasing.

BTW: Fulsome usually has a derogatory meaning of excessive or over-the-top, but it can simply refer to abundance without the negative connotation. Quite frankly, successful would be a more apt term in the given context.

McCain wants to get elected. He has lost his moral center and has reversed his stance on vitrually all his pre nomination positions, from the Bush tax cuts to torture. His current dangerous and incomprehensible assertions are just attempts to pander to the far right, who he needs to come out and vote in the election. At 71, this is his last chance for the brass ring, and will say and do anything to get it. For this reason, he will be seen as woefully out of touch once the general campaign starts and will be soundly rejected by America. This time facts will actually matter, and Bush has left a trail of facts that are impossible to cover over and ignore. McCain is stale, burnt toast!

oj1311:

Dellis,
How little you understand the UN. The central methodology of the UN was not to do anything. Rather, it was to do nothing, barring agreement of the major players. In that way, the chance for war among major players was diminished.

The approach has been fairly succesful.

You are right about NATO. It should be gone, but I do not follow your logic. Are you saying the Europeans should be supporting our adventures, when neither the governments nor the people support them? Novel, very novel. Given such circumstances, what could a league of democracies do if it was living up to its name?

jim Harrington:

McCain will say anything to get elected. Thanks for trying to expose his hypocrisy. McCain wants the USA to be the only superpower without any opposition. He wants to take over the world. He will destroy our economy and start WW III. He is a lunatic and it is time for the MSM to quit pandering to him. It is not in the interests of the MSM to destroy America, oops maybe it is. If McCain reignites the Cold War we will go bankrupt as a nation. This is big businesses plan, no more oversight and eternal war.

J.D.Solano:

Excellent article in general.

But...

after the 2000 Florida fiasco, and the President of the United States being elected by the Supreme Court...

after Guantanamo and the abolition of something called "rule of law"....

after Abu Ghraib and the legalization of widespread torture as official U.S. policy...

after the current fiasco in Florida and Michigan, where millions of voters have been disenfranchised de-facto...

I end up with some doubts about the United States' qualitications for membership in any "league of democracies".

dr.steveb:

Regardless of boilerplate platitudes, what evidence is there that McCain is intelligent? 5th from bottom of his academy class, repeated concussions from boxing and 5 airplane crashes, possible PTSD from his time as POW, and now his extreme age.

stephen:

God help us- we are seriously considering a second "W" to be president. Have we not learned anything after eight years?

stephen boyington:

To the earlier poster that said a League of Democracies would replace both the UN and NATO, and that it would be a good thing because NATO cannot put forth an effective fighting force.

Nobody could put together an effective fighting force in Afghanistan. In addition, much of NATO does not WANT to fight in Afghanistan; the USA and UK are driving them to fight in an occupation that they don't want to be in.

To think that some League of Democracies would act more effectively as NATO in Afghanistan is truly silly.

Rebecca Voss:

The difference between 2000 when John McCain was a reasonable man and now in 2008 is that he has cracked and agreed to be the puppet de jure for the Neo-cons...Who cannot loose power until they are dead because when the truth comes out about what really has been happening in our government....these men will be spending a lot of time in prision.

Does anyone think that Hillary will investigate for the truth?

H R Coursen:

Add Krugman's analysis of McCain's plans for the economy (today's NY Times op-ed). McCain would be a disaster as President. But -- Hillary will "triangulate" and nothing useful will occur from that process. Obama may try briefly to combat the powers-in-place, but he will fail and soon have poll #s resembling Bush's. The symbiosis between the government and its military-business-industrial clients is securely in place. Nov. 08 will make no inroads on that arrangement.

Kal Palnicki:

The world's second largest economy is the European Union, if I remember correctly.

McCain is overstressed by the campaign and is becoming very confused. He needs to stop and rest awhile or he will lose any semblence of rationality and will come off as a bewildered old man.

No matter how badly the Dems cut each other and bleed. McCain's own mouth will sink his campaign. He may be saved by the MSM since he seems to have many angels in that crowd who sidestep his flubbs in the hopes that they will not appear in campaign ads.

I do not agree with this post. The League of Democracies is effectively a replacement for two disfunctional institutions: NATO and the UN Security Council. NATO is dysfunctional because its European wing is incapable of putting together a competent fighting force. Adding in 80 other democracies will help ameliorate this deficiency. The UN Security Council is dysfunctional because we must cowtow to China and Russia's autocratic demands to get anything passed, and inevitably any Security Council resolution is watered down sufficiently that the canard of sovereignty helps protect nuclear-seeking powers and genocide-promoters from facing any accountability. Creating a parallel institution that excludes autocratic states with a vested interest in an overly broad definition of state sovereignty will help solve this problem.

Zakaria points out that McCain has not yet picked between the realist and idealist strains of conservative foreign policy doctrine. So what? These two strains have been in conflict for 200 years. Moreover, why should he pick one over the other? It is important that the U.S. be the world leader for promoting democracy and human rights; at the same time, it is important for the U.S. to be practical about fighting terrorism and non-proliferation. There is no reason to pick one strain entirely at the full expense of the other.

Zakaria is correct to point out that we need Russian and Chinese cooperation with non-proliferation and terror. But surely we can still negotiate on these matters with them while at the same time building new international institutions that have relevance for the unique problems of the modern age. China and Russia have just as much to fear from loose nukes and rogue state nuclear weapons as we do. We should negotiate with them honestly about these, and stop pretending that their Westphalian obsession with protecting state sovereignty at all costs can permenantly bar status quo international institutions from being effective in the 21st century. Engagement - yes. Lackey? No more.

Horace Beasley:

I take no delight in what I am about to say: Sen McCain for all his distinguish service to our country and the honor that he possesses simply does not seem to have an original thought or idea of his own. It appears to me that he is entirely staff driven by the two competing strands of Republican ideology current in today's discourse.

Fawaz Arif:

China is the new reality. you cannot KICK the second largest economy out of the "Global Peace Phenomenon".Its also true for Russia, specially when Russia is assisting Iran in his Nuclear Program respectively it will damage IAEA negotiations with Iran.

League of Democracies will not suit Arab World also many countries around the world. think of a world without Arab Oil? specialy when america's own economy is in trouble. i think McCain and its NeoCons advisors must learn from Bush serious mistakes to force the US to the "point of no return".

Getho Jeudine:

Once again a poignant and unfiltered real asessment of our foreign policy. Some of Mcains statements and proposals have shaken me to my core. But perhaps a more jarring proposal that somewhat trumps the ones you outline here......is his proposal of a 100 year occupation of a middle eastern country! This is perhaps his most dangerous and ill advised foreign policy proposal....his comparing of our presence in the korean peninsula and Japan with a prolonged millenial presence in Iraq illustrates the danger in this mans thinking. Don't Americans realize "occupation" or presence of American troops in some of these countries is the main kindling for this growing inferno? I did not think anyone can get us in a more grave bind then President Bush has in the last 8 years.........it appears, sadly, that I am wrong!

Joseph DeRocco:


I hope you will not take offense if I offer you a correction. You've misused the word "fulsome." It means disgusting or offensive to good taste.

A regular, admiring reader,

Joe DeRocco

LHO39:

Perhaps if you add some outrageous aside about flag pins or Reverend Wright there might be some public notice of this important article. The spotlight NOT on Candidate McCain is curious. The news media likes controversy and shuns mere information. Thanks to Mr. Zakaria for once again rising above your colleagues.

Arthur Yeager:

It is also time to recognize the unfortunate fact that Senator McCain is an increasingly confused gentleman.

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