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Military Dictators Don't Want Democracy

A strong military like Pakistan's can bring stability, but at too high a price for any nation to pay.

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lonewolf:

you can speak of military dictators all that you want, mr. bayuni. but you should first of all talk of america,s own military dicatator, george bush. if you want to save your people from dictatorship, then why would you want to simply hand them over to a socio-economic dictatorship represented by american energy interests? what is in it for you? your own financial freedom while your own people starve, and the few of you gather the wealth? don,t be so shallow as to attempt to make us believe that there is some "democratic miracle cure" for your people. we americans haven't seen this financial utopia, and it is safe to assume that your own family branch won't see much of it either. so, don't perform a disservice towards your own kind. use the example of the middle class meltdown in america as ateaching toll towards what the future of those who believe in the future of darwinistic capitalism. tell them yourself that you are as willing to be as poor as they will be. that will be the mark of a true leader and pragmatist. good luck!!

Jonathan Ariel :

I can think of at least two coups that were justified, in that they brought freedom, stability and prosperity to their nations

Ataturk, who after seizing power in a coup transformed Turkey into a modern democracy

The Portuguese miitary, which overthrew the Salazar dictatorship, freed its remaining colonies (Mozambique, Angola, Timor), and peacefully organized elections that cemented democracy and paved the way for EU membership

There have been other coups that could be considered partly justified. They did not bring democracy, but nevertheless gave their nations relatively better government than what had been provided by the regimes (usually absolute monarchies) they overthrew

This list includes Egypt(Nasser),Yemen, and possibly even Khadaffi (not exactly a paragon of good government, but still infinitely better than King Idris)

There are also coups that were contemplated, but ultimately never implemented. We can but imagine where the world would be today if the German high command had ousted Hitler a move they contemplated several times.

Asish Dhakal:

To most cases as stated above I agree, it must have been that way. But over here in Nepal after 10 years of fear and regional arrest which may be in the name of peoples war as stated by the Maoist or the coup by the king. People always wanted "Shanti" meaning peace or stability according to the article above. Now after reinstating power to the people and the incoming of democracy conflict has become complexly more diverse and gone from political to the emotional levels. What more people are more than ever desperate not for any political ideologies to flourish but for stability. What I think is it can come only with development supported by education. However education among the poorest section of the society involved in the peoples is far fetched as long as feeding 2 meals a day is the priority of a family.

bala srini:

by errors of omission and commission american administration is either due to imbecility or arrogant indifferance,is setting up the future american generation to a state of perpetual hatred by these countries population who suffer from the whims of these dictatorial regimes.unless we the americans chastise our foreign policy makers(READ MORONS OF STATE DEPT}for their forked tounge diplomacy and hippocracy there is more chaos in the world-the ideal petrie-dish for the jihadists to perpetuate their cause.

M. Hasan:

I agree with you Endi Bayuni.

One or two aspects were not touched by you. The most important one perhaps is the support of the govt of leading developed countries who are themselves democracies and the support of the international institutions like IMF, World bank. Without support from these, military dictators like Soeharto, Ayub Khan, Ziaul Haq, Pervez Musharraf would have survived for a much less longer time.

M. Hasan:

I agree with you Endi Bayuni.

One or two aspects were not touched by you. The most important one perhaps is the support of the govt of leading developed countries who are themselves democracies and the support of the international institutions like IMF, World bank. Without support from these, military dictators like Soeharto, Ayub Khan, Ziaul Haq, Pervez Musharraf would have survived for a much less longer time.

Hamad S Alomar:


Pakistan is a great nation of 160 million people. Out of those 160 million there are at least 16 million who are over 45 years of age, and out of those 16 millions, there are at least 1.6 million, men and woman, who are educated and wise enough to qualify for president or prime minister of Pakistan. Musharaf, Benazir and Nawaz are just 3 out of those 1.6 million. What gives Benazir, nawaz or Musharaf the right to be prime minister or the president for a2nd or 3rd time ? Have those 1.6 million qualified Pakistanis been given a chance to nominate themselves? The real democracy is when all qualified people have the same opportunity. Benazir can not live on history. Her history is for her. People of Pakistan are concerned with the future. Benazir said in her WP article PPP is "mine"! refering to her political party. This is not a language of someone believes in democracy?
Hamad S Alomar

Hamad S Alomar:


Pakistan is a great nation of 160 million people. Out of those 160 million there are at least 16 million who are over 45 years of age, and out of those 16 millions, there are at least 1.6 million, men and woman, who are educated and wise enough to qualify for president or prime minister of Pakistan. Musharaf, Benazir and Nawaz are just 3 out of those 1.6 million. What gives Benazir, nawaz or Musharaf the right to be prime minister or the president for a2nd or 3rd time ? Have those 1.6 million qualified Pakistanis been given a chance to nominate themselves? The real democracy is when all qualified people have the same opportunity. Benazir can not live on history. Her history is for her. People of Pakistan are concerned with the future. Benazir said in her WP article PPP is "mine"! refering to her political party. This is not a language of someone believes in democracy?
Hamad S Alomar

Hamad S alomar:


Pakistan is a great nation of 160 million people. Out of those 160 million there are at least 16 million who are over 45 years of age, and out of those 16 millions, there are at least 1.6 million, men and woman, who are educated and wise enough to qualify for president or prime minister of Pakistan. Musharaf, Benazir and Nawaz are just 3 out of those 1.6 million. What gives Benazir, nawaz or Musharaf the right to be prime minister or the president for a2nd or 3rd time ? Have those 1.6 million qualified Pakistanis been given a chance to nominate themselves? The real democracy is when all qualified people have the same opportunity. Benazir can not live on history. Her history is for her. People of Pakistan are concerned with the future. Benazir said in her WP article PPP is "mine"! refering to her political party. This is not a language of someone believes in democracy?
Hamad S Alomar

Anonymous:


Pakistan is a great nation of 160 million people. Out of those 160 million there are at least 16 million who are over 45 years of age, and out of those 16 millions, there are at least 1.6 million, men and woman, who are educated and wise enough to qualify for president or prime minister of Pakistan. Musharaf, Benazir and Nawaz are just 3 out of those 1.6 million. What gives Benazir, nawaz or Musharaf the right to be prime minister or the president for a2nd or 3rd time ? Have those 1.6 million qualified Pakistanis been given a chance to nominate themselves? The real democracy is when all qualified people have the same opportunity. Benazir can not live on history. Her history is for her. People of Pakistan are concerned with the future. Benazir said in her WP article PPP is "mine"! refering to her political party. This is not a language of someone believes in democracy?
Hamad S Alomar

Joshua Udell:

For many are saying there is division in our nation over the war and what took place six years ago at 9/11 and God says, "I will cause this nation to come together and we will be united again hand by hand, as a dreamer dreamt, he says this day and he is speaking forth these words to you now saying, "Hand by hand we will gather around our nations capitol, hand by hand we will gather around the flag of the United States of America, hand by hand we will walk in unity."

For the division and the discord God says, "I will shake and penetrate the hearts of this nation and they will find a car that they will say, "We must look to the source of where this came from." And they will say, "What is this moving going on all around us, for something is happening in the city of New York and they will say the nations economy, what are we going to do now? What's happening here?" For God says, "Don't worry, for I will not let this take place for long. For there shall be ups and downs and a dramatic downfall for a time, but I will raise you up and you will be victorious again. New York, New York, your statue of Liberty is there because of France. And I tell you watch what I do in the country of France as I speak to the President and the leaders of France." For they will say, "Is this going to cause another riot in our country? Is this going to cause a riot in Paris?" For God says, "I will send love into the hearts of the leaders, I will send love back into the city of love."

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Anju Chandel, New Delhi, India:

Dictators are antagonistic to Democracy!

Robert S. Finnegan:


As if Endy Bayuni is an expert on freedom of speech.

Bayuni, along with Raymond Touran, then Chief Editor of the Jakarta Post, and U.S. Ambassador to Jakarta Ralph Boyce did their utmost to cover up the perpetrators of the Bali bombings of 10/12/2002, harassing and firing JP reporters who dared to question the official lies of the FBI, NSA, and CIA who were directly involved.

Bayuni, along with Raymond Touran and Hermawan Sulystio are CIA bagmen, bought and paid for by the United States.

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of the Bali Bombings for The Jakarta Post 2002
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SYED FAROOQ HASNAT:

Pakistani voters have already made up their minds. They will vote for the parties that represent freedom and democracy. The main issue in Pakistan is Democracy Vs. Dictatorship. Other issues are presented to distract attention from the real issues.

CKent:

Pakistanis have the freedom to harbor terrorists of the worst kind within their borders, and they use that freedom, as long as they do that Pakistan has TOO MUCH freedom. It is ridiculous to suggest Pakistan have Democracy, because they will move toward even more Islamic militancy. This is unfortunate but true. Get your social house in order Pakistan, then talk about improving your freedoms.

JustAThought:

What else can pakistanis have except dictators or corrupt politicians to lord over them? It is a failed state, created out of hatred and has shown time and again its inability to shake off its victim psyche. First the mohammedan bengalis were gone, areas around Afghanistan have always been autonomous or virtually so. Baluchis are on their own, that leaves a few urban areas for the army to control. And recent incidents show even that is hardly true. As they say most countries have armies, but there is an army looking for a country around pakistan.

If it were not for the army's begging bowl filled by american administrations and the saudis with strings attached, the disintegration would proceed at a much faster rate.

The mohammedenization of the country, even if driven by a few, is enough to drive the final nail in the spirit of the country's coffin since they will continue to terrorize the sane into silence and inaction.

The denial and hatred of their past before some arbitrary point in time has led to a loss of identity. And arabization of the country further aggravates the tribal mindset, while permanently placing them in the second class citizenry of the new found belief system. And the example arabs have for the country to follow is also repressive and dictatorial.

If pakistan was indeed a paradise, mohammedans from India who can would be clamoring to settle there instead of flocking to the UK, US, Canada and Australia.

Michael McLaughlin:

As to a country which a military officer took power by force and then paved the way for democracy, I present to you General Douglas MacArthur who, in 1945, seized control of Japan by force, and turned it over to General Matthew Ridgway in 1951 who, the following year, ended the military rule of Japan and turned the country over to democratically elected leaders. While it is certainly rare for a military officer to seize control of a country and oversee its transition to an orderly country governed by the rule of law as guided by duly elected representatives of the people, it is by no means non-existant.

American Observer:

Absolutly Says:

"Yes Yes Yes. But only if U.S supports them.
Thats why Pakistan was able to create nuclear bombs
amids all objection of the world."

American Observer:

Actually, America put sanctions on Pakistan for ten years because Pakistan was building nuclear weapons. However, the Chinese transfered the nuclear technology to Pakistan directly, and that is how Pakistan built nuclear weapons.

American Observer:

Absolutly Says:

"Yes Yes Yes. But only if U.S supports them.
Thats why Pakistan was able to create nuclear bombs
amids all objection of the world."

American Observer:

Actually, America put sanctions on Pakistan for ten years because Pakistan was building nuclear weapons. However, the Chinese transfered the nuclear technology to Pakistan directly, and that is who Pakistan built nuclear weapons.

Absolutly.:

Yes Yes Yes. But only if U.S supports them.
Thats why Pakistan was able to create nuclear bombs
amids all objection of the world. All terrorists training camps are in Pakistan...
So now you can't do anything about it but to support Military on one side. Which means supports terrorism against U.S because ISI is the terror master.
Yes we would like THIS Democracy because then U.S can pay the ransom money like 3-5 Billions per year.
Which U.S has no idea how its used.
U.S never learns from History.

Yes Yes Yes. But only if U.S supports them.

Absolutly.:

Yes Yes Yes. But only if U.S supports them.
Thats why Pakistan was able to create nuclear bombs
amids all objection of the world. All terrorists training camps are in Pakistan...
So now you can't do anything about it but to support Military on one side. Which means supports terrorism against U.S because ISI is the terror master.
Yes we would like THIS Democracy because then U.S can pay the ransom money like 3-5 Billions per year.
Which U.S has no idea how its used.
U.S never learns from History.

Yes Yes Yes. But only if U.S supports them.

Robert of Los Angeles:

JL - what century are we living in? American principles of government are eternal but its outworking change with the times. 1941 should be sufficient proof that the US cannot be without a standing army sufficient to meet the situation, unless of course you think the existence of a Navy was the provocation for being attacked? Whether we like it or not, America is a world power with interests to protect and an interconnected set of obligations at least since World War 2.

On American Observer's point, I would add South Korea and Taiwan among others, of authoritarian regimes morphing into democracies. But it can be a long term process, there's nothing automatic about it, and there must be a measuring of what corruption and pain these regimes cause against worse alternatives.


JL:

Just read any of George Washington's writings about his fear of a standing army. He did not want the US to have a standing army. His reservations ranged from it's potential chilling effect on democracy as well as the risk of it's improper use.

Albert R. Chen:

I think it's a false dichotomy to present the choice between democracy and stability. In the longer term, democracy is more stable than authoritarianism. While in the shorter term, stability may be a pre-condition to democracy. Authoritarianism should only occur in a transitional period. It's getting out of that transitional period that has everyone stumped.

Sara Martindale-Raptis:

Doesn't it sound disingenuous to for Bush to be using the Military dictatorship of Pakistan on his defeat terrorists mission?

Adel Quraishi:

Military Dictators & Stabilty

Its an often stated mis-statement that military dictators bring stabilty to a nation though at a staggering price.As far as the fate of Pakitan is concerned,it has seen four military dictators who misrule it for over thirty years from 1958-71 from 1977-88 and from 1999 till date .They came as masiahas and over time proved to be brutes who would go to any extent to cling to power.
Gen Ayub who usurped power in 1958 successfully divided the country into east and west Pakistan separated by hatred that eventually under the leadership of his successor Gen Yahya saw the dismemberment of Pakistan and surrender of 90,000 troops in a shameful ceasefire.

Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto the first elected Prime minister bring these troops back and gave Pakistan its first unanimous constitution.Bhutto started nuclear program in Pakistan despite stiff US pressure and opposition,his government was over thrown by his humble army chief Zia and he was tried and hanged for murder under dubious circumstances.

1977 saw Gen Zia coming to power in a coup and 1979 saw the influx of arms,drugs and bigotry into the cities of Pakistan.The current malaise of religious extremism,ethenic division and sectarian violence is the handy work of his eleven years in power.He was like Musharaf, the blue eyed boy of US as he was helping them defeat Soviets in Afghanistan and killing his country with extemism,guns and drugs,the bitter harvest of jihad in Afghanistan.Till this day Pakistan is paying the price of his myopic policies.

1988-1999 saw the return of quasi-civillian rule in stints of 18 months to 3 years under military establishment which systematically thawarted all their effotts to work effectively.

Still Nawaz Sharief successfully build motorways in Pakistan and brought fibre optic technology to this country in early 90s when only US and some western states were using it.Nawaz Sharief was also responsible for nuclear tests which according to Pakistani military establishment are the sole deterrent against any foreign threat to the country.Nawaz Sharief in his second stint as prime minister for the first time in Pakistan made an election pledge to improve relations with India and things were moving in right direction when Musharaf started Kargil disaster that achieved nothing but loss of lives on both side and bad name for Pakistan.
Nawaz Sharief also tried to bring army under civial control as he dismissed the naval chief for his highly publicized corruption.Sharief also forced army chief to resign on his suggestion to give army a constitutional role in government.

Benazir in her second stint as prime minister established a large number of power projects that would have ended the power crisis in Pakistan and enable her to export power to neighbouring India.But military controlled WAPDA,which is responsible for power distribution has made it sure that power division should always make huge losses and Pakistan should be short of viable electric supply.

Musharaf despite unwavering US support and huge influx both economic and military aid has failed to create a sembalance of normalcy in the country.In the north tribesmen are fighting fircely killing hundreds of regular soldiers,bomb blasts are routine in the capital Islamabad which was once considered a safe city.
Still worse the armed forces and intelligence agencies are ambused and killed in high security areas in the twin city of Islamabad -Rawalpindi. Currently hundreds of military personnel are in militant's custody and Pakistan army is negotiating for their release through tribal elders.Today (19 September2007) newspapers have reported 15 mutilated bodies of soldiers are found in traibal area of Miramshah.This is the state of affairs in the country's capital and ordeal of regular soldiers while the chief of armed forces Musharaf is running from pillar to post to get elected as president and his intelligence chief is negotiating a power sharing deal with Benazir Bhutto's party till recently branded by Musharaf as corrupt and incompetent.
If this is stabilty that a military dictator bring in the form dismemberment of the country,surrender of 90,000 troops,heavy casualities in armed armed forces and target killing of intelligence agencies then we would prefer a cilllian unstable government that would build motorways,power plants,telecommunications and improve relations with India-the sole cause of our collosal military budget.

Mali:

In Mali, a general called ATT did it.
He return 10 years later a civilian and be elected.

American Observer:

Divine intervention? I thought Zia was assassinated. Here is the Wikipedia entry on the death, quote:

Death

The August 17 air crash

As he was grappling with these problems, however, General Zia-ul-Haq died in a plane crash on August 17, 1988. After witnessing a tank inspection in Bahawalpur, Zia had left the small town in Punjab province by C-130 Hercules aircraft. Shortly after a smooth take-off, the control tower lost contact with the aircraft. Witnesses who saw the plane in the air afterwards claim it was flying erratically. Directly afterwards, the aircraft nosedived before exploding in mid-air, killing General Zia and several other senior army generals, as well as American Ambassador to Pakistan Arnold Raphel. A common suspicion within Pakistan, although with no proof, is that the crash was a political assassination carried out by the American CIA or Soviet KGB. Other groups who have fallen under suspicion include the Afghan Communists and Shi'ite separatist groups operating within Pakistan.

Conspiracy theories about the Crash

No evidence has come to light to prove a conspiracy, although several theories do exist. Recently, John Gunther Dean, a former US ambassador to India, blamed the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, for orchestrating the assassination of Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, though he offered no proof for his allegation, made to the World Policy Journal. The book Charlie Wilson's War has pointed out that Israel was an essential ally in the American funding of the Mujahadin in Afghanistan and Zia's death could not have benefited Israel. [citation needed] General Hamid Gul, who would become the Director-General of the ISI after General Zia's death, stated that the US Central Intelligence Agency was behind the plane crash.[citation needed] Some theories have gone on to say that it was an act in coordination with the Soviet KGB and the American CIA.[citation needed]

Immediately after the crash, investigators from the US FBI were rushed to the scene, especially since the US Ambassador had been on board. The FBI determined that the crash had been accidental but rumours remained that there was a 'secret' real reason they had discovered.

Other rumours have reported that it was determined that nerve gas had been released in the cockpit, disabling the pilots and sending the aircraft head-long into the ground. It was also determined that this nerve-gas bomb had been highly sophisticated and was beyond the capabilities of normal persons, and thus the agents of a government must have been involved.

Which government, was the question. Pakistan liked to view itself as being surrounded by enemies, the leaders of almost all of which wanted Zia dead. India was the top suspect, followed by Afghanistan and the Soviet Union. In addition, Zia had enemies at the top level within the government of Pakistan. Benazir Bhutto was accused of having rejoiced at Zia's death, because Zia had ordered her father, Ali Bhutto hung.

Also, Afghanistan under the Communist rule of Najibullah clearly wanted Zia dead, as Zia was aiding the Afghan Mujahidin who were fighting to overthrow Najibullah.

The other question was how the nerve gas bomb got into the cockpit. The aircraft had been under 24-hour armed guard. Access to the aircraft was strictly controlled. It seemed impossible that someone could have sneaked in and placed the bomb there. Another possibly not considered at the time was a suicide bomber. Nowadays, such a possibility would have been obvious, but 1988 was before suicide bombing came in vogue.

People have pointed to USA,USSR,Israel,Bhutto Family,Al-Zulfiqar and Even Ahmadi faction as a potential suspect. Unlike the assassination of JFK, which was caught on film, the crash that killed Zia has seemed more mysterious, but conspiracies about his death have persisted.

Unquote.

You can read the entire entry at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Zia-ul-Haq#Conspiracy_theories_about_the_Crash . If anybody wants to know, I think Zia was killed by the KGB, because the KGB had a motive and vast resources, and on several occaions the KGB had threatened to hold Zia 'personally responsible' for their troubles in Afghanistan.

American Observer:

There is a sad amount of truth in what you say. Most military dictators have proved the old proverb which says 'The purpose of power is power.' This is especially true in Africa, where we remember the nightmarish dictatorships in Uganda, Zaire, and the 'Central African Empire.' Nonetheless, military dictatorships have often prepared a country for democracy far better than Communist or Moslem dictatorships did or could have done. Thus, Franco and his Fascists won the Spanish Civil War against the Spanish Communist Party. Nobody would pretend that Francisco Franco loved freedom, but Franco's regime prepared Spain for the present democracy; and can anyone claim that the Communists would have created that much stability and prosperity in Spain, and enabled such a smooth transition to democracy? By the same token, Chile's Pinochet has never loved freedom and nobody loves Pinochet, but Pinochet gave Chile a generation of prosperity and stability, and when Pinochet retired Chile moved smoothly to democracy. Cuba's Fidel Castro has managed to make himself into the rock star of the 'Up-Yours-Yankee!' phalanx, but Castro has failed to make Cuba prosperous, and nobody expects Castro to retire, ever, until death itself wrenches power out of his hands.

Now Pakistan has an old-fashioned military dictator of its own. Nobody will claim that Musharraf loves freedom, and nobody loves Musharraf; but does anyone actually believe that a radical Muslim regime will give the people of Pakistan more freedom, safety or prosperity? Would a Taliban regime actually be better for Pakistan? Humiliating as military dictatorship feels, some developing countries seem to need it.

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