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Your comment is interesting and stimulating.You suggest that it is required for rich countries to invest in poor countries.But it seems to me that developed countries are not interested in investing. One reason is that social infrastructure is relatively poor compared with those in richer countries. The second reason is that many workers in developing countries are generally low- skilled or uneducated people so it will take many years to educate and train them. It is reasonable for US and European countries to invite workers from developing countries to their countries and train them. This innovative policy contributes to offer new employment opportunity for job seekers in developing countries. And their wages will be remmited to their families who are living in ther home countries. This is more valuable than official financial aid which is offered by the developed countries.

Your comment is interesting and stimulating.You suggest that it is required for rich countries to invest in poor countries.But it seems to me that developed countries are not interested in investing. One reason is that social infrastructure is relatively poor compared with those in richer countries. The second reason is that many workers in developing countries are generally low- skilled or uneducated people so it will take many years to educate and train them. It is reasonable for US and European countries to invite workers from developing countries to their countries and train them. This innovative policy contributes to offer new employment opportunity for job seekers in developing countries. And their wages will be remmited to their families who are living in ther home countries. This is more valuable than official financial aid which is offered by the developed countries.

Your comment is interesting and stimulating.You suggest that it is required for rich countries to invest in poor countries.But it seems to me that developed countries are not interested in investing. One reason is that social infrastructure is relatively poor compared with those in richer countries. The second reason is that many workers in developing countries are generally low- skilled or uneducated people so it will take many years to educate and train them. It is reasonable for US and European countries to invite workers from developing countries to their countries and train them. This innovative policy contributes to offer new employment opportunity for job seekers in developing countries. And their wages will be remmited to their families who are living in ther home countries. This is more valuable than official financial aid which is offered by the developed countries.

Dear Friends:

Fear itself is paralyzing. Death seems something someone else experiences. This is the non action the distance and detachment or denial at several levels. An article suggested that citizens and foreign nationals living in hurricane and or other meteoroligical areas of weather conditions that can change quickly such as tornadoes move or respond in a preparedness state do not do so early enough to allow for reaction to the emergency instantaneously.

At a time of emergency no one knows the conditions, time and or reality until experiencing it. Now is the time to prepare and act. Moving debri that is loose and can fly into the air with the force of hurricanes is only a small saving grace. Yes!!! Move now!!!
Closure of doors. Test them. Plan directional and timing to emergency centers. Cities plan one ways. Freeways, one lane for emergency vehicles and emergencies. Share rides. Mass transits and or any vehicles that can move swiftly and quantitatively humans, animals, and emergency supplies.

Move Now!!! prepare your most important paperwork are they in water proof vaults, copies in your envelope, (water proof) ready to go at a moments notice. Have you updated this since Katrina? If not do so. Photos taken and stored in more than one place where possible ( with relatives)

Please call and or contact a relative to have an option of a place to stay during hurricane. Especially if you are already threatened or feeling anxiety. The difference can help you and save lives. Perhaps a center for storage on an internet and or with a relative of copies of your material you may want to save. Family photos, copy them and distribute with other family members these are prescious personal items that may not be able to be copied or saved later, if a hurricane or two or more were to come. Birth certificates, wedding pictures, wedding certificates, graduation diplomas and degrees, insurance documents, photos of your home before, medical information. It can then be obtained later. Please act now. Have a plan!!

Doctors, Lawyers and court records, title companies and hospitals and insurance companies, down load records to disks and perhaps send to another location for storage outside of hurricane regions. It can make a difference in the event of hurricanes. Now is the time to act. You too government, federal, state, county and city.
In the event of hurricane or other prisons, and insitutions of all sorts, records, where are they, plan ahead for timing, direction and place.

Asthmatic patients, diabetics, plan ahead, perscriptions, a supplly always have on hand and take with you. Leave early enough.

Are you new to the regions of these along coast lines? Check with the hospitals, web sites, neighbors, and or chamber of commerce, colleges and where ever you can to be and get information to be prepared. If you do not have a vehicle and or are handicapped or on life support, Please plan now, Give information of your where abouts in case of emergencies. Get the dialers or life saving calls equipment that are portable to call 911 or operator. They have them that are like a whistle. Where emergency notice bracelets and or in your pocket.

Talk about the experiences that occurred in shelters. Plan on leaving immediately. Veterans anxiety can occur from fearful situations. These can also occur from individuals who have had fearful, lifethreatening experiences of other sorts including those that are in the subconcious mind, sometimes so suttlely there hidden, you may not be aware they have occurred. Talk to someone professionally now, even reading the suggestion of some experience possiblely happening can bring about anxiety. Know this and seek help you are not alone.

The many foreign nationals in this nation that are here illegally may experience these same things. Language barriers are contributory factors in confusion and or anxiety. Know this.
Their vast numbers create another anxiety they are a cost to this nation even in emergencies that many of us feel we should not bear. Their leaving cuts on the costs and volunteer dollars that it takes to heal from such experiences and during the crisis. These costs are ours in every aspects including the abilitly of our government at all levels to service it's citizens and to provide the best, most effective and efficient reponse to everyone. Many are not even listed as citizens and the system then gets back logged or jammed. Locating them is another problem.

This combined with the vast numbers in an emotional state, confused, emergency and fighting for their lives. Denial, fear of leaving their personal belongings and property leads to a sense of helplessness for all and may include anger or anguish at noncitizens who are not contributing to state and federal taxes then taking from us.
We feel that your nations owe us and you. These are natural feels and occur in several ways and times. You are a burden and expense and your nation goes irresponsible negligent and absent in these difficult times and daily. WE the citizens of the USA are being invaded by illegal immagrants a crime and by those who are harboring them also a crime, treason, punishable by death.

The citizens of the USA are able to protect their personal and real property by the second amendment. Tresspassing is illegal and one can protect their rights and proptery and family and self by law. The right to Bare AMS is part of our constitution. Protect your property and you arms during crises and emgencies. Cities and states now is the time to plan and put in place the ways that these elements can be handled better than Katrina!

Jefferson Parish saw citizens experiencing shootings during the night which may have been from individual either on drugs, experiencing flash backs, alchololics and or from criminals simply stealing guns and arms from private homes after left during Katrina. Either way, plan now! Set up emergency lines, contacts, more than we had during Katrina. Alternate communication systems and routes more and faster and better than we had then.

Small children then may not have experessed anxiety or fear but may now experience it. Children can be grown adults, Seniors, teens, moms, dads, brothers, sisters, and children now reacting to your experience and reaction.

Businesses there were many as the oil industry workers and retail, and medical and all really that showed exemplary displays of courage, charity, support and so many other generous responses that they cannot all be named.
How about networking with ideas, plans, specials on tv to show examples. Historical sites not just for the memory but education for now and in the future. Make a difference each state that experiences hurricanes, tornadoes, floods,earth quakes, snow falls, cave ins, huge waves of water, mud and or any other occurances or disasters such as 9/11 or the Arizona can offer education and benefits that will assist the future generations through museums, historical sites and capitals or government sites that assist. States like Texas that took in great numbers of survivers and are still assisting and feeling the impact of these and costs can lend to and contribute to the historical future education and impact to assist in the realities of these most challenging of times.

In Katrina and I mean in no way to minimize or negate or nor desensitize the emotional need and urgency of this experience, but time passing instantaneously caused fractional seconds to seem like years. Our government gathering, hearing, quantitatively reacting is and was equivelant to their being in the eye of the hurricane itself.

A sphere or ball representative of a whole of the experience and profound Godliness of not one but so many hurricanes ravaging such vast areas and so many states, was relative to one person every minute second getting orders, calls, yells, screams for help, help, help, here, here in every possible direction of the ball, from every single possible point on earth, in every pitch, volume and demand, while our and their loved ones were in danger or being chased by hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, rains, oceans swelling, another another another, over and over and more and more.

Like being on the Titanic. Ladies and gentlemen, my friends and neighbors. Not one citizen no matter what title nor how many can be all to everyone. ONLY GOD CAN BE ALL!

WE ALL must even today and when faced with another hurricane or many must act dilligently, quickly and as fast and furriously as possible.
Laying blame hurts, and takes away from we can do. God help us pick up a shovel and move loose debris. See what you can do today in preparedness, get back to work, help create and suggest new jobs, and clear the paths for a healthier road to recover, to exit for emergencies and to REBUILD, REJUVINATE, REJOICE AND BE PREPARED FOR TOMORROW TODAY. KATRINA, ALL CITIES, ALL CITIZENS WE LOVE YOU AND WANT YOU TO BE ALL THAT YOU CAN BE.

NOT ONE BUT ALL!!!! THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED AND DONATED ALL OVER THE WORLD. SHARON WALKER

Note: This is a recycled article. Thank You ALL.

JACOB JOZEVZ et al a/k/a Yakub Yozivz et al:
Hello A N O N Y M O U S (10:04AM) A/K/A {Islamic-Voice, Ir,Naik et al]; Greetings Brother(s) Sister(s) in Cyber space & on Earth & Beyond;
The DISPENSATION is given ALL HUMATES CREATURE KINDS:

Note: Your "Suras" above cannot be a valid entry that can be validated & inscribed into the Glorious "ECLAT-i-ON BIBLE." Because IT [your Genuine Real G-d] is a "Peaceful Cosmic Feeling Religion" There can never be any Negatives that defy PEACE, LOVE, JUSTICE, or Family & Friend!

WE Eclati-On's are taking over the World, for the better of the Future Bound Kids, Not Me, not selfish you & Today's Pre-Apocalyptic Taught Folk!
The Prophecy is come.

Do Not resist change for the Good of Futurizing our INFIXUS BOOKS. From Caterpillar (old Songs ) to Butterfly (NEW-SONG) is the Vogue for you & family & friends {ECLATARIANS],

And is now here to stay (as Prophecy for US) when OUR Space-Ship Momma/Poppa Earth (Tellus, Giaa, Helios, Uolam etc..) does the POOF-TIME a-Gonna in +/- 6Billion Years from now!

Our great Holy Prophet [pbuh] Albert Einstein [JOKTAN not PELEG Eberu Blood line] has given HUMATE-KIND "R E L A T I V I T y" and "Q U A N T U M E N T A N G L E M E N T"!

This is your Reality on the Move. This is A Miracle in "IT's" [Allah, Lord, G-d, etc] self via US as Eternity Avoiding Loneliness Via Absolute Hot & {OURS) Absolute Cold MIZAN (Arab For Balancing) & More ECLAT"i" revelations given to "Shiloh" The Photon/Light Bringer,

a/k/a the 12th MADHI, as prophesied. he is born in America! And He is Come for US, not just for you!

Hark! Or Perish. "YOUR ECLAT & "i" consents, but only for a TIME!" {these are second Words of Eclat and the First is "Let there Be Photons" (not light as thought). Your Reality on the Move is what OUR Miracle is all about.

So Please tell Islam that MELCHIZEDEK, the God Character who is Above in rank of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Krishna, Buddha , Mohammad, et al, and has ushered-in the APOCALYPSE for ALL Islam, Christian, JEW et al, All Religion & All Man & ALL Heuristic Aware HUMATE CREATURE KIND!

Your Koran, Bible, Geeta etc, is no longer Holy! ONLY YOUR Unique ECLAT"i". So, Praise the LORD!
Please go tell you Imam's the "Light Bringer" is Come as Prophesied to all from the PISCES-AGE.

May Peace Be Upon His Holy "Shiloh" & OUR Great Father & Prophet Albert Einstein & other greats!
There will be created, via U.N., a ONE-UNIVERSAL-RELIGION-SYSTEM "HOLY-BOOK" , a/k/a "The HOLY BOOK Of O.U.R.S." et al 12names!

Ah, Life is so Beautiful with ECLATi-On-s than with ECLATi-OFF(s). This is the Battle.

BEHOLD: But, "If ONE flouts their Eternal Holy No-Man Eclat, then IT (Eclat God) always wins and you will always Loose." This sayeth the Great ECLAT!

A brilliance Bursting Forth Indeed, thus OURS LIFE is always Miracle and was Never a Sin, Contrary to ALL Pre-Apocalyptic Superstitious Man-Made-Zero-GoD-Faiths!

Down with ALL Ancient Faiths! Surrender your religious books of Mass Destruction or you will suffer, as of listening (Reading) this Message or PERISH!

This, I attest & as Wittineseth & as a designated (via "Shiloh") Fore-Runner,

Wherefore; I Exclaim in open LOVE, Peace & Justice for ALL Humanity & their Humanity Doctrine, to make their Holy Cosmic Heart Beats EClati Honorable & Uphold IT (not a He nor She] LAWs, as Nature for US and;

Uphold The Universe which always existed being OUR genuine Holy Cosmic Constitution in Equality, inside & Outside of US, deterministicaly for ALL [G-d's] humates to enjoy with and for and by, fore ever in Source_ONE!

Wa A Salaam Wa a Laikem. In Shallah La La al Haq!
SHoloma is with Shiloha!

<?:+)/ Ya Ya. [Pbu Them All]!

Praise the Lord! Praise G-D, Prise Holy No Mon Eclat & "i" therein and thereof!

WELCOME To the Aquarius-AGE (New Song) Evolving from the Pisces-Age (Old-Song). "

From Caterpilar to Buterfly" THIS IS THE MESSAGE OUR Dear Momma Poppa & Kiddo's Mon's! Ya Ya.
Posted May 27, 2007 11:25 AM.

Shiveh,

Oops! How terribly insensitive of me to have forgotten.

All the very, very best to your children, to you and to your whole family.

God bless!

Shiveh,

I can oly fully agree to the toned-down comment that "countries that can not support their population are better off reducing it". I also agree with you, for knowing the reality only too well, that the gap between rich and poor in America is unfortunately growing. Even being in a high tax bracket for our household, both my wife and myself support progrssive taxation. And, yes, we do think that reality is as harsh as you describe in the Gangs of Los Angeles, and people should assume their share of the burden to make our world more livable. I congratulate you for doing more than your share without rancour.

Possibly where I went wrong in my initial response to you was that I was equating too much of the misery in the world with wars. There are other factors besides war.

Thank you for pointing that out to me.

Mohamed,

Let me congratulate you on your achievements against long odds. I wished there were many more people who reached your level of success coming from backgrounds like the one you described. But unfortunately you are the exception. Gangs of Los Angeles are full of kids that were brought to this world without the money and attention that a kid needs to grow into a normal life. Illegal Immigrants in the US mostly consist of people who could not make it in their home countries because they lacked the appropriate skills. The divide between the rich and the poor in America is expanding and the level of one’s education more than anything else is indicative of which group they belong to. So, in my view, it is the parent’s responsibility to make sure they can fully support a child before they make one. It is not a matter of lacking confidence or taking chances. It is the law of averages that works here. Good luck to you and your children, but to take luck out of the equation, countries that can not support their population are better off if they reduce it.

Shiveh,

Confidence for confidence -- I am 60 years old and was born and schooled (up to age 19) in a tiny-island developing country named Mauritius. My father died when I was 9 years old and the eldest in my family was 11. No resources and a mother literate only in an Indian language, not English. We won't go into the details, but when my Gynaecologist wife unexpectedly became pregnant for my second son (third child), I proposed abortion, but my socially conservative wife was horrified. My three children are all excellent, but my two others often tell my wife "Ash (the third one) is the one who troubled you the least mummy, right? You never thought WE would become good children". This second son is graduating from university summa cum laude next month, my first one (daughter) having already graduated summa cum laude last year and the first son showing all promise of doing the same.

Oh, the superb Mathematician Friedrich Gauss, whom his father, under pressure as a result of harassment from his employer, often roughed up as a child, was also an unwanted baby. But when the whole of aristocratic Europe was trembling at the advance of Napoleon Bonaparte’s unstoppable army and, reaching Gottingen the hometown of Gauss, it prepared to launch an assault against the town, Napoleon sent word to spare the town because “the greatest mathematician of all times lives there”.

I am not arguing against family-planning or even against abortion in given circumstances. I am no fundamentalist in any sense whatsoever. But to place blame for lesser economic development solely on a large population is disingenuous. There is ample evidence that unequal exchange is the main culprit. I am an Economist and development worker and can confirm to you that the 1960’s Latin American Economists Raul Prebisch and his colleagues of the dependencia school got it right, even though at that time I myself, as a mainstream North American-educated Economist took the theory, along with Gunther Frank’s/Immanuel Arghiri’s ’s “Unequal Exchange” model of development with a grain of salt.

Enough about the causes of slow economic development. Where do I get the notion of reducing Mexico’s population by nuking them? Well, with a powerful cartel, such as for oil at present, you can unilaterally modify the unequal exchange system to your advantage. The war against Iraq is a resource war, as will be the other wars brewing – in Iran, in Darfur, in the Caspian region, maybe even in Venezuela. And because of the neo-cons’ stupidity (ask Francis Fukuyama), they empowered the oil cartel to modify the unequal exchange system in a way advantageous to the cartel far beyond anything they ever dreamt of. I was telling you that, IF THE PRICE OF A BARREL OF OIL GOES TO US$100, Mexico could snap out of the unequal exchange trap in a way so much more spectacular than the rout of the neo-cons at the 2004 elections, the possibility of a war with Venezuela might actually materialize and Mexico could be drawn into it because of its significant oil resources.

But, yes, I am exaggerating.

Or am I? If the pro-lifers in the US think that the birth rate in developing countries is the problem, maybe we are heading not to a resource war but to a eugenics war!

Mohamed,

I have a 10 year old son. I’m raising him well. He goes to private school and I spend enough time teaching him to make sure he'll become a well balanced successful man. If I had two children, Private school would not be possible and my divided attention would probably be enough to raise two mediocre children. At three children, one would probably drop out of highschool and I do not even want to imagine what would happen if I’d indulged myself with four children. My point in my last post was that many of the problems that 3rd world countries have are caused by poor family planning. The limited resources of these countries when divided amongst their exploding population, practically guarantees their sub-standard living environment. No amount of help from industrialized countries can change this situation unless its directed at controlling the rate of population growth.

Now, how did you get from this to US nuking the Mexicans is beyond me.

Shiveh,

You should pose the question of whther the Mexicans know this to those who told you that if its population was reduced by 30 million, it would be Nirvana.

But, if you want my slightly off-track answer, it is this: when, very soon, the price of oil hits US$ 100 per barrel and in case the US has not found alternative energy resources of its won, the 30 million reduction in Mexican population will inevitably come about by YOU-KNOW-WHO bombing them back to the stone age and grabbing their oil. At that time, not only will Mexico graduate to a 'first world' rich country, it will become a backwater US state like Puerto Rico.

But, Mr. Kuttab, you have seen what has happened at the World Bank, which devotes much of its considerable expertise to investing directly in the infrastructure and other public projects of its member countries. Kemal Dervis, who as former Finance Minister of Turkeyhas done wonders for that country's economy, ought to succeed Wolfowitz as the Head of that institution, but I doubt whether he will receive overwhelming support from the developing country shareholders of the World Bank. On another note, huge (US$ 3 trillion) foreign exchange surpluses are accumulated these days in the hands of the Chinese, Indian, Saudi, Japanese and Taiwanese Governments. One does not have to beg for foreign investment from a bankrupt US to create jobs in poor countries like Bangladesh, Indonesia, Pakistan, Morocco, Algeria, Mauritania, or Brazil, Argentina, Mexico. These surpluses could be invested in these countries instead. What prevents it from happening? The foolish but self-fulfilling belief that MIGHT IS RIGHT -- America can be bakrupt, but the same gunboat diplomacy that enables it to attack and occupy another developing debtor country to recover debts owed to it, enables it to beat the s---t out of a creditor country to which it owes debt that it cannot repay or that might evolve into such a situation of a huge creditor whose debt by the US is unserviceable.

I read somewhere that if Mexico's population was reduced by 30 million, mexico would be a first world industrialized country. Has anybody told this to the Mexicans? Why do they multiply like rabits? If they slow down a little, there will be more for everybody in Mexico and fewer of them need to leave the country. Why would the pope disagree? Is it because poorer you are. more religious you'll be? Mr. Kuttab is correct about trying to fix the problem at the source. But, it's not all about money.

TO Sama:

QUESTION: Where did you get the "21% of Israel's Jewish population live under the poverty line"?

Immigration -- in most of the cases is from a poor country to a land with higher amount of opportunities. It's always to a country which provides more security.
The effect of immigration can be neutralised by ensuring employment opportunities in developing countries. The initiatives need to be taken up jointly by countries for immigration is now an issue being faced on a world wide scale. Ensuring education for all would solve much of the problem. Parity in salaries would not only make people think twice before immigrating, it will also bring in higher amount of recognition for the right talent.

I agree with Dr. Kuttab. We should definitely invest in poorer countries as this is good for the American economy and American investors as well as poor countries.

But before we start investing in other countries, we should ask those countries to address some structural problems. These problems may be in the form of economic mismanagement in the case of Mexico or political conflict in the case of Palestine.

If the Europeans are worried about Arab immigration then they should seriously work with the United States and stop funding dictators like Mubarak of Egypt, Abdullah of Jordan, Musharraf of Pakistan, or Mohammed V of Morocco. These dictators block transperancy, demand absolute say over economic and political matters and they stifle growth. With Political reform and democracy comes economic reform and better money management. Just look at the example of Eastern Europe. In the early 1990s, they all became democratic and now Western Europe is investing in their economies.

To be fair to Arabs as well, billions of petrodollars are being invested by Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Oman in Sudan, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine, and Morocco. However, these investments are being sapped by conlicts (Palestine, Lebanon) or structural deficits in the political and economic spheres (Egypt, Morocco, Jordan).

The United States, on the other hand, gives Israel about 14 billion dollars a year in grants, commercial and military loan guarantees (that Israel has never paid) and that money too has been squandered in a military occupation of Palestinian territories, an invasion of Lebanon and the making of weapons when fully 21% of Israel's Jewish population live under the poverty line.

IN the Middle East and elsewhere, we have to invest in democracy, better governance and conflict resolution. Those are the best antidotes to immigration.

US is donating more than USD 6 billion annually to Israel for the purpose of killing more Palestinian children everday.They are spending billions of USD for killing more Iraqis everday.
Conseqently,they do not have any money left for any humaniarian purposes.

Daoud Kuttab's solution: "Give me money!"

This is Kuttab's only solution to global problems other than "Kill my enemies (the Israelis)!"

Forbes magazine inform us that Bill Gates of Microsoft fame will soon be the second richest self-made man on the planet. The first prize will soon go to a Mexican National (so I am told). However it was noted that the wealth of the Mexican National wouldn't be so much if the laws of monopolization were altered. (He owns vast percentages of Mexico's telecommunication sector, so I'm told.)

Now, supposing this information is true, and money was kindly offered to the Mexican Government in order to genuinely assist job propagation, would such policy help the unemployed? The answer is no.

Follow the money: Any form or meaningful job propagation would also logically mean a bank-boost for the wealthiest Mexican National (pardon me sir, but I do not know your name), as, after all, he would be the one that would be able to propagate the most jobs in the shortest amount of time. This is because he has significant resources to stimulating vast, but perhaps menial, employment.

After all, it would be an obvious pleasure to create countless menial jobs and employment opportunities to accommodate the bottomless wealth that the richer nations are giving his own country...that will eventually give to him... for this very reason.

I am sure that the Mexican gentleman could easily construct a legitimate method of skimming off much of this finacial aid. For example he could create jobs, and the Mexcan governement would reward him with the money given for this very reason; and, after reaping the rewards,downsize the work force.

Russian author Gogol wrote abook called "dead souls". It describes a time in Russsia where a similar tax-benefit policy was enacted. The most innovative business people went around the country employing the very dead in order to claim them as a tax deduction.

Philosophically speaking, while the idea of job propagation is an unobjectional, sincere, sensible and valid idea, the premises are unsound. The argument must have proven-to-be sound premises. In the scenario where finacial aid is given to create jobs in Mexico,where there is obvious and rampant monopolizatin of the telecommunications sector, you cannot possibly construct sound premises in order for a valid argument to go through that truly justify the funds being sent.

That is to say you would have a valid but unsound policy that would benefit only the monopolies of the country that would be receiving the financial benefits.

Follow the money, work backwards and occasionally step beyond the conference room and walk a mile in the shoes of those you desire to construct the policy for, and you won't go far wrong. If you are going to balance economics and policy, make sure the scale itself is on level ground.

Mr. Kuttub: You are so wrong.

Third world countries need to stop building temples and castles dedicated to their countries kings, leaders, etc. and start taking care of their own people with the wealth they horde for themselves.. They need to be treating their own people like human beings. Teach them how to build, farm, educate. See? That's where the wealth comes from, being independent, not depending on First world for everything.

And by the way, US may seem wealthy to you but Americans work hard and give back to the government to build, farm, educate. SEE?

Mr. Kuttub: You are so wrong.

Third world countries need to stop building temples and castles dedicated to their countries kings, leaders, etc. and start taking care of their own people with the wealth they horde for themselves.. They need to be treating their own people like human beings. Teach them how to build, farm, educate. See? That's where the wealth comes from, being independent, not depending on First world for everything.

And by the way, US may seem wealthy to you but Americans work hard and give back to the government to build, farm, educate. SEE?

I apologize Seth. I made my point poorly.

My point that solution of investing in other countries is too simple. In some countries it worked, Southern America, China, Japan, and Germany for example. In others it didn’t, Africa, Palestine, a good chunk of South America. There are other factors that need to be considered.

I don’t believe that putting money into countries, either in gifts, loans, or investments is going to solve the problems in the majority of the cases.

The reason I feel this way is that first world countries and companies already invest in third world counties. These investments are often destroyed by political instability caused by numerous reasons.

Does investment work? Yes, your southern example is a good one. However, I think it only works when all other factors are correct.

I think and I wanted to point out that investing in third world countries is one faceted of the solution to a very multifaceted problem.

Mr. K U T T A B, et al; Ma-Ha-Barrr;

I known, when Palistini's was handed over the "Green-Houses" in the Gaza & West Bank that was left in tact by the Israeli's, and It was a $ 100,000,000 a Year agriculture Business that was put together by Ex-Zionists.

Turns out that 85% of those Green-Housed was plundered and destroyed & used for Construction pieces.

I Know I Once suggested that Palistini's Establish a Palestine BRIDGE & TUNNEL AUTHORITY instead and create jobs to unite West Bank with Gaza minor & Major.

I also know my exZionist Father once propsed giving 10% of the Egyptian Sinae Desert and adding it to the current Gaza area, thus expotentialy expanding Land. BUT;

Looks like Palestini's are Cursed & Blinded by the LIGHT of the Word of what Allah or Al Haq is trying to say in their "NAQBA" times.

Yaum Al Qiyamah is come via the "Shiloh" a/k/a the "MAHDI" the Great 12th-Maulana, whom I am wittneseth, who uncursed the Zilzall, and chased away the "Peleg" people of the books, THE FITNA (Ghayaba/malahim) [APOCALYPSE/STANDING] is upon US.

No more Jannah [Biblical Heaven], No more Jahannam [Koranic Hell] No More DAjjAL! The Anti-Christ Masjid is dead. The KATAN a/k/a JOKTAN is come to save Islam & All Five Major Sickened Religions, and wherefore the Healing of Religious Torn Nations & their People & Global Peace & Gridarian Democracy is Coming near you soon.

Humate-Kind needs O.U.R.S. a/k/a One-Universal-Religion-System a/k/ OUR-BOOK or OUR-BIBLE etc...

Suggestion: ALL paslistinians Private folk, except the Police & military or other designates, should "SURRENDER" not your "Glorious Korans" but you AK47's, Guns, Bombs, etcc for a reward in return. Like $100 for a Rifle. And All these must be stricly enforced.

The people need to stop. And from info and belief, Israel is going to push All Palestinians out of Gaza & Will turn Gaza into a desolate Parking Lot! Gaza can become Uninhabitable!

Unite your People within yourselves SECULARLY and no other way! The Gaza Poor should learn from their West Bank palestinians Secular rich & those living in Jordan Minor now & not Just Lebonon Camps.

Your Diaspora is going to get worse and the more yous resist the harder ECLAT's is going to resist back. As told you's, G-d Consents but only For a TIME!

Wa A Salaam Walaikim. Shiloha Is Sholoma!

Good Luck!

I believe Lancaster has slightly misunderstood Mr Kuttab's assertion that we need to give money to poorer countries. The first verb he uses is "invest" which is the same verb you are concerned with in your closing paragraph.

The situation is very similar to the American North and South in the past century or so. Countless families left the South for the much more prosperous and developed Northern cities in the ealy part of the century, contributing to the creation of the inner city ghettos we see today. To make a long story short, now that companies have spent more than half a century investing in the South and rebuilding its economy from the shattered, share-cropper based system it was after the Civil War, people are once again moving into the South. The South is growing at a larger rate than any other area of the country. This is partially because of new immigrants, but substantially because native born Southerners are no longer running North to look for jobs and opportunity.

The same holds true. If we continue to squabble about what to do with the immigrants once they get to this country, we will be treating the symptom instead of the disease. One key component of this whole issue (which has been largely ignored in the public forum) should be creating a situation in which people wouldn't flee there own country in search of a better life.

I whole-heartedly agree with you, as I am often frustrated with the lack of any sort of common-sense analysis from politicians, law enforcement agents, and others engaged in this debate. Everyone seems to be ignoring the HUGE underlying problem of poverty in other nations that is driving so many immigrants to the United States. Instead, we are distracted by talks of building bigger and better fences, wondering if they have a right to be here, and so on. Such a response is par the course, anyway, as very few people in the United States want to address structural issues (such as poverty) and are, instead, more interested in reducing them to political points.

I disagree.

Sharing the wealth sounds like a wonderful concept but it presupposes the idea that there is a fixed amount of ‘wealth’. That is where I don’t agree. Wealth is not something that needs to be shared but something that needs to be created in a continual process.

Sure, we could keep giving money to third world countries but if history is any guide that money is just going to bounce. They will spend that money and go back to being poor again because they lack the means to make more money.

It’s the old teach a man to fish proverb. We can share the wealth and feed the world for a day or we teach them how to create their own wealth and have them feed themselves.

Now, this isn’t a new thought. So why isn’t it happening?

The problem I think is that the wealth going into the third world countries is not being reinvested. The solution is to identify the reasons why it is not being reinvested, (A corrupt political system is probably number one on my list) and try to figure out ways to solve those reasons.

It sounds simple but it’s a pain in practice.