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There is no such thing as "absolute power" or "unlimited wealth". You give us too much credit.

Political ideas disguised as religion are not unique to the Middle East, they are preached here from too many pulpits, too, despite our stated effort to separate church & state, & despite the fact that Jesus said they were to be kept separate.

I am glad to hear that not everyone in the Middle East hates the US, despite our less-than-perfect society. We do try to be better, even though it may not seem so to outsiders. Our ability to critique ourselves helps us to work on improving, but there are still some things we are reluctant to deal with. That's where criticism from outsiders helps. Everyone has blind spots. We need to be told when we're wrong. And we need to listen.

One of Bush's problems is he wouldn't listen, not until he was forced to. I think a lot of people had doubts about what Bush was doing, but we didn't know enough to be sure. We had to trust. Until we knew for sure. That's one problem with a representative government, we elect people to make these decisions for us, then we have to rely on them to know more than we do. In this case, the people knew more than the White House, but not in time.

Bush is doing better lately, after he had an opposition party with the power to make him. I actually think we should always have an opposition party in the government to curb our worst extremism. That was Bush's problem at the beginning, our system of checks & balances didn't work.

You're wrong, Mr. Goth.

What you say about America's absolute power and unlimited wealth, Mr. Goth, is wrong, WRONG.

In the very early 21st Century, Asia is already challending American leadership in economic might, with China and India alone having, between them forex reserves equivalent to 3 trillion, 3,000 billion, 3x10 to the power of twelve, dollars. That is equivalent to ALL AMERICANS working in remuneration-less slavery for three- and-a-half months to produce the goods and services that the citizens of these two countries want in order to wipe out the debt.

Unlimited wealth? Think again, Mr. Goth

The problem in the Middleast is nearly all of the above, Yes Israel has instigated alot of the problems in the region for their own misguided aims, Yes some Muslim fanatics missinterperate the peace loving koran for their own justification, Yes the puppet regimes serve their family and foreigners more than the region, Yes Arabs are guilty of bad education practice that force children to learn the Koran before any other teaching, Yes the interference by the US and Britain in the middleasts history has created many problems and slowed development in the region. None of you is right 100% but none of you are wrong 100% either!

The only way peace can be acheived is if Nuclear power is reached to its full potential in the middleast/Africa/and South America. The veto powering nations in the security council have 5+1 and none of them are from any of the above continents. These countries Russia/US/China/UK/France + Germany, do not care enough for the other continents to help them, rather they bargain between themselves at the detrement of other countries rights, they care only for their own interest. Africa headed by South Africa, Middleast headed by Iran, and South America headed by Brazil need to urgently acquire greater power to stop outside forces from interfering in regional issues. This is the only way peace can truly be acheived for all of us in the future: When these Nations representing their own regions have enough clout to enter the security council. We should all be working to give them their place too, then we can all truly talk about world issues and not call wars that are started in Nations Self Interest 'Internationally Backed'!

The only time we will see a btter middle east is when all the "puppet stooges" the likes of Sheiks,Emirs were "created" by the British at the start of inception of the so called "states" when the bediouns who fought against their own muslim borthers, the Ottomans. Then we had the "phoney" kings, sheiks and emirs, these lot are just puppets who were "installed" by the british, and are still in place to protect the Oil/Gas status for the US and britain. Meanwhile all the Oil wealth sits in the western economies in particular US and UK. The Shah of Iran had "piled" all the wealth of Iran in the US and when he was "stitched up" by the West, all the Wealth was frozen until this day, and that money has been cleverly "vanished" and will never return to Iran, and the same fate has happenned to Iraq, all their wealth "vanished" and the same will befall Saudi Arabia, Kuwait as the rulers individually have "stashed" the wealth in the US, eventually when the public "dumps" these so called royals, they will never see the country`s wealth, as the US will "forfiet it". Saudi Arabia or any other Arab country dare not "recall any of their investments in the US or west". They know what fate will befall them, they are already too late. The Arab public will demand an "Iranian style revolution" without the european style of democracy. This is the course of events and this cannot be changed come what may. The Arab royalty knows now of their future, but are unable to change the course of events.

"What you say about the contribution of the Peace Corps is true. I think it was the best effort we have ever made to the harmony of the world."

Ex Peace Corps vulunteer;
Thank you for posting your comment and agreeing with me that Peace Corps was one of the best iniatives of President John F. Kennedy.
It was and still is on of the soft powers America has to go back to.
The person who mentioned that Egypt and Jordan do not have oil and natural resourcses forgot the best and the longest lasting resources any nation needs to have---- educated, creative, civilized, and peaceloving citizens. That is what Egypt and Jordan have.
To the genius guidance of King Hussien and Anwar Sadat they abandoned spending the meagre resources to have on endless wars with Israel.
That is was most leaders have to understand. Stop giving Palestinians to lip service and giving them worse treaties than Israelis give them.
An old friend of mine told me that he ran to Jordan after the 1967 and he was beaten up. He ran to Egypt and was beaten up and mistreated. He ran back to Israel and he was taken to hospital and the Isreali police observed the wounds on his body that was inflicted on him by Jordanian and Egyptian forces at those countries borders.
Those of you who are arguing that most of the problems in the Middle East caused by the USA help to Israel that is hog wash.
Go to Algeria, Somalia, Yemen, Gaza or the West bank, one will find the atrocities and crimes committed by people from these countries against thier own people. What USA policy has to do with a Somali killing another Somali? Do we know Palestinians kill thier best brains more then the Isrealis kill?
Can we be candid for a minute and call a spade for a spade as Bashir Goth does as humanly possible as he can?

I AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED AT THE MALICIOIUS ATTACKS ON a heavenly religion followed by more than one billion people all over the world.It is quite improper to criticize people for what they are,but what they do.
If we are to adopt this principle,Israel takes the lead.Israelis are practicising the most hateful apartheid against helpless Palestinians,both moslems and christians,almost everyday.Hlolocaust against jews was carried out in Europe,and now jew are practicing even worse holocaust against the worng people and in the wrong place,Palestine.

I bet the majority of people in the Arab world do admire the American dream, the american freedom and prosperity and that same majority would be all way pro USA if it were not for the erroneous US policy in the Midddle East and their unlimited support to Israel.
All chroinc problems in the Middle East being in Lebanon, Afganistan, Iraq or Palestine are generated by one malicious power house named Israel.
Unless the USA stop their unlimited support to Israel and adopt a categorically new foreign policy in the Middle East, hatered and bloodshed will unfortunately continue to persist in the area.

mr. musa seems to go along with the u.s. policy of maintaining close ties with non-democratic countries such as egypt and jordan. might i remind mr. musa that these two countries also possess vitually no material or mineral wealth whatsoever. if they did they would be treated in the same manner that most other arab countries that have the type of wealth(i.e. petrowealth) as we have seen the u.s. deal with them so far. as condileeza rice is famous for having quoted "either you can accept the golden carpet or recieve a carpet of bombs." therefore it only stands to reason that any semblance of democracy would be nothing more than a smoke screen and the relations between the u.s. and the saudis, egyptians, and jordanians are vivid proof of this. the most educated as well as democratic of the countries of the middle east recieve hammer blows. therfore it also stands to reason that mr. musa by not conceding these facts also in effect concedes to failing to support his own people as well as his heritage. the iranians, while irrascible, know full well that they are next in the sights of the neos in washington. mr. musa should speak out in favor democratic reconciliation and dump the fear factor rhetoric as i believe this would be far more constructive than the piecemeal destruction of the peoples of the middle east that is now in progress.

Frank Collins!

Your posts are full of hate and it overshadows your research. Although the underlying points of your arguments are valid, they are lost in the harsh and load sound of your screams. Your focus is on one religion and your choice of verses are biased and out of context. If you want people who believe in Islam to have a fresh look at it, this way you will not succeed. If you want to demean their faith, you do it only in the eye of people who already agree with you. Try balancing your arguments and expanding your focus.

Considering the current geopolitical realities, the world - including the Arab world - cannot afford to be seen opposing the US beyond a certain point. Having said that, it is in the interest of the Middle East countries to take sincere intitiatives to Unite and act together with the US to resolve the various conflicts plaguing the region and causing miseries to millions of their people. Then only sustainable peace and progress can be accomplished.

the reason there is so much hate in the islamic world is islam. it is a religion that tells its people to hate and murder and force conversions on others, and their governments, having fixed this into the minds of the people now must poing to someone other than themselves to focus it on.
in the past its been the non islamic world and today its still the non islamic world. so having identified the problem we must look at why and the why is the vile verses of the koran. verses that islamics refuse to reject and still live by.
SO HERE ARE SOME OF THEM - GOING TO REJECT THEM OR GOING TO CONTINUE TO AFFIRM YOUR ASSERTION THAT THEY ARE THE COMMANDS OF GOD WHICH YOU MUST FOLLOW.
verses that say:
The Hadith No. 284, The Muslim, volume one, says that any Jew or Christian, who heard of Muhammad but did not convert to Islam, and died in disbelief, would rot in hell! Thus Islam withdraws from all Jews and Christians the right to believe in their faiths, and pratice them as such.
"The unbelievers of the People of the Book and the idolators shall be in the Fire of Hell therein dwelling for ever; those are the worst of creatures. But those who believe, and do righteous deeds, those are the best of creatures..." (XCVIII: The Clear Sign: 5)
Here those Jews and Christians, who spurn Islam, have been lumped together with the idolators such as the Hindus, and classified as 'the worst of creatures'. Therefore the Koran commands:
"O believers, take not as your friends those of them, who were given the Book before you, and the unbelievers, who take your religion in mockery and as a sport..." (V: The Table: 60)
"The true believers say: Has not God ordered a chapter that commands the holy war" (Sura 47:22); or elsewhere: "Kill the idolaters wherever you find them, imprison them, besiege them, ambush them" (Sura 9:5); and, "Make war on unbelievers" (Sura 9:29). "When you come upon unbelievers, massacre them, tighten the bands of the captives that you will have taken. Then you will set them free, or you will release them for a ransom" (Sura 8:57).
"To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers" (Sura 8:57). That is why it is necessary to Islamize them by force and by humiliation. And those who resist Islam and its founder must be chastised, according to the Koran: "Here is the fate of those who fight Allah and his messenger: you will put them to death or you will make them suffer the torture of the cross; you will cut their hands and their feet alternately. They will be driven from the country" (Sura 5:37).
"Do not display cowardice, and do not call the infidels to peace when you are superior to them" (Sura 47:22). THIS ALLOWS THEM TO MAKE PEACE SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE WAR AGAIN LATER.
4.89": They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
"4.90": Except those who reach a people between whom and you there is an alliance, or who come to you, their hearts shrinking from fighting you or fighting their own people; and if Allah had pleased, He would have given them power over you, so that they should have certainly fought you; therefore if they withdraw from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not given you a way against them.
"4.91": You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority."
or the islamics crying over the crusades when they started them. here is a little short history about that:
The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years after Rome itself was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.
so tell us pam, in what context do you put the war like history of islam, considering that they started the war before anyone ever knew about them. or why there are no longer any jews in mecca?

What you say about the contribution of the Peace Corps is true. I think it was the best effort we have ever made to the harmony of the world. But what you saw and what I did was long before a small group of POLITICAL (not religious) fanatics declared war on everyone in the world that did not convert to their ideology. Peace Corps Volunteers today would be murdered along with their students and probably their neighbors as well.
Muslims the world over should fear and fight these people who want to set themselves up as judges of who is sufficiently devout and who should be re-indoctrinated or simply killed. They have actually convinced some people that the length of a man’s beard is sufficient for that judgment. And when discussion and debate do not work they use the KKK technique of terrorizing into submission. What amazes me is that the “Arab Street” does not see them for the thugs they are. The KKK survived until the local population decided it would no longer tolerate them.
Yes, reform in Middle Eastern countries has got to happen. Leaders that do not facilitate that reform will be swept away – they might manage to take their wealth or they might not even get away with their lives.

there is a big difference between Iran and arab states.
In Iran ppl really love amercian culture and have no problem with Israel.but government is ant-American and anti Israel.
In Arab states,Governments are american allies and people have anti american feelings.
We Iranian see arabs as eneemies ,But We have no porblem with US and Israel,And I am sure in future US,Israel And Iran will be allies

mr goth, how much is the cia or some other u.s. government agency paying you?

mr goth, how much is the cia or some other u.s. government agency paying you?

mr goth, how much is the cia or some other u.s. government agency paying you?

To Mr.Musa :

America has got two very different faces the one is what you in america(may be though I am not sure)and some arab statesmen see and the other which opperssed nations of the world see and unfortunately this two differnt faces are fundamently different .What you see as america in Sanfrancisco Bay area or in Manhattan or in Miami beaches is adifferent one to what we see in tehran or beirut or baghdad or some other parts of muslim world.
You can't hid your head and don't see what americans has done to the nations of middleeast.Thay still support israel while opperessed homeless palistinians to the edge of extinction and thast why these poor people can't do anything except to venture their lives to save their country(what americans call it terrorism and muslim nations call it martyrdom).

Anonymous:
What are you smoking, Sir!?

May be you are not smoking anything sir, but if you were smoking something good you will at least have the gets to mention your real name something close to it.
Anyone who does not have the guts to mention his/her name should not be allowed to post here in the first place, should not it?
May be you have every right to hide your name, if it is causing you to be in jail or even killed as it happens in many parts of the world.
Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberts, Oral Roberts, and the likes do not represent America. They are crooks who prey on poor people, like many other as Rashineesh, or Reverend moon, or many Shiekhs in the Islamic who rip off people in the name of religion what ever name they give to their religion.

What are you smoking, Sir!?
Anti-American feels are preached from the mosques and there is no anti-Muslim hate coming out of American churches? What happened to the "Crusade" of Bush? And let us not forget that Jerry Falwell said that the devil does not want church and state to work together!

Give it up, mate! Those Sunni "leaders" in the Arab World are only intereted in their own corrupt, backward regimes to continue for a few more years and they do any thing for it.

"Will he find anti-Americanism still on the rise in your country, and is the damage permanent?"

As some who was taught English by a peace corps teacher in the bushes of Somaliland, norther region of former Somalia, as someone who is US citizen now and as someone who travels a lot I know for a fact that he will find many people who admire, respect, and love America and what American people stood for before this visionless adminstration came to power in 2000.
I lived four years in Saudi Arabia 1976-1980. Americans and American companies had been more respected than every other nationalities inculding the Saudis.American citizens had the number status in class, know how, and respect.
Americans and America stood for freedom, prosperity, and creativity. People Admired everything American.Although, I later found out out the genius of Americans marketing skills.
I do remember before I came here believing the slogan"We are the best" or "We are number one."
What worked for hundreds of years and still working for the United States is brain drain from the rest of the world. Very few people who get higher education go back to where they originally came from.
Getting phd, being creative, or becoming good in any field is liability in many parts of the world. In America one is rewarded handsomely for one's skill, hard work and creativity. That is why a lot of people never in leave United States in the first place or come back to it, after being burned, perscuted, oppressed, and abused in thier own homelands.
It is true that he may find few radicals who bad mouth the West in general and the US in particular but most of the people from any corner of the world admire, respect, and love America and what America used to stand for before the current adminstration's disasterous debacle or pre-emtive strike policies.
As the Great man, Nelson Mandela said in his address of the joint Congress after his release from jail in his first visit to the United States of America" We befriiended your founding fathers through literature."
America needs to send more movies and more peace corps vulunteers instead of bombarding whole countries as they did in Afqanistan and Iraq.
Peace Corps was the best initiative that America came up with. Peace Corps teachers and volunteers in other fields won many friends and enhanced the image and good will of the American people.
I do thank my peace corps teachers in early 1960's especial a guy by the name Alan Holt. He used to walk 15 miles in rainy dark nights from Borama to Amoud whenever we had debates at Amoud.
To my amazement I found out that guy was Yale graduate. I am told he had masters from Yale and volunteered to teach poor African kids like me. May God bless him and reward him for his humanitarian sacrifice whereever he is now.
What a different generation of Yale Alumni we have now(me, me, me generation).We have the most greedy, corrupt and visionless Alumnis from Ivy League Schools nowawdays.

Thats not right.I think what bashir says is what white house please to hear .In the long term the best and most optimum policy for both Arab brothers and Persian people is expansion of multilateral freindship .We live in a world of Integration of Economies .Iran is the biggest State in the region and a profound and robust Econopolitical relation between all the persian gulf states will serv all the people of the region .I think Mr.Rashid is a little bit feared of U.S power and wealth when he uses the term absolute for U.S power. Thats a big mistake and we all know what happened to the biggest and mightiest superpowers in the history.(the only absolute power is god)
Ofcourse America has many friends in arab states but not among ordinary people . White house could win the minds and perhaps heart's battle in Arabian palaces but in the streets of Cairo , Beirut ,Baghdad ,Amman and ...it is anti-americanism that you hear everywhere.
The issue is not choosing between Iran or America ,infact what arab nations vie for is real democracy , freedom ,peace and prosperity.
The democracy is what could be brought by political reform which is what nor arab statesmen neither americans like to talk about, so thats a current situation which is a conundrum. Whitout political reform democracy will be a jaw jaw of TV shows.Freedom is another issue which should be brought about by freedom of speech which we still see no sign of that and thats a common scurge in all Islamic World (Umma).Democracy and freedom are very interconnected concepts and realities .Bringing peace without a true and comprehensive peace plan which in ,all the involved sides could get (and be satisfied and persuade )their true rights is unimaginable.And prosperity is the consequence of more integrational economic policies.Without integration among all the states of Persian Gulf(which in Iran as a plus 70M population country is a main player),any talk of prosperity and peace would be a myth.I think what alqaeda is doing doesn't serve arab nations interests.I think the best way to serve the muslim worlds interests is helping to shape a more integrated world based on common values.And thats a responsiblity of politions ,statesmen ,businessmen and ,,,
So its Ayatollahs and arab sultans who should take the burden of responsiblity.

Methinks that Mr. Goth confuses the members of the power elite with Arab street. It appears that the suppported rulers of ME. from Israel to Saudi Arabia, through Jordan, Iraq etc are all for the USA.
HOWEVER, all Pew research indicates that the standing of USA is contrary to the benefit of the Arab street, and indeed, the Arab Street in all "friendly to USA vassal states" oppose the USA. Withoput Doubt the King of Jordan like the King of Saudi Arabia are cognizant of the changes in the Arab Street, thus their belated opposition to OCCUPATION OF IRAQ [Saudi] to opposition to war with Iran [the Small Emirates and Saudi arabia/Eqypt] to demanding Israel/Palestinian peace accord on Arab terms [the Arab League].

If Mr; Goth thinks that all these changes by the ruling elites opposing the USA hegemony [from pure subservice] is a sign of SUPPORT for USA, then I would ask what was he smoking as he wrote the above short note.