***Tibet is vital for the Chinese national security because it is a natural barrier for human migration from India.***

WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. What a BS. Like pacific ozean stoped indians and pakisani to immigrate to USA and Canada.

***Since China has to hold onto Tibet for its long-term survival, it is in its interest to find a way to intregrate the Tibetans into China successfully.***

Thats wrong. Actualy China dont need Tibet for long-term survival. China is huge enought to be happy without Tibet. Even because China has big Land and very big population. Tibet inside of China is a big waste of money and millitary pressure wich must be paid by chinese poor people and workers. Without Tibet China can consentrate on own future and Independent Tibet can became very good Puffer between China and India.

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Anwer Sher exhibits naivety on this issue. Tibet is vital for the Chinese national security because it is a natural barrier for human migration from India. George Friedman wrote an article a few weeks ago on the geopolitics of Tibet. He aptly demonstrated this point by showing a population density map of the eastern Asia.
Since China has to hold onto Tibet for its long-term survival, it is in its interest to find a way to intregrate the Tibetans into China successfully. The current policy certainly is not working and the Chinese gov’t will have to change it.
However, people who advocate Tibetan independence is not helping the Tibetans either. They actually weaken the position of His Holiness and prevented him from being a serious negotiator with China. Without a credible negotiation partner, the Chinese will have to take the Israeli approach in Palestan, i.e., to systematically settle the Tibet with non-Tibetan population.

All nations in the world were parts of China 700 years ago!

All Muslim Nations were therefore were parts of China 700 years ago!
All Russia, Mongolia, Asia,Africa, America, austalia, New Zealand and all 7 seas and montains and resources were parts of China 700 years ago!

All wild animals including house mice, rats, snakes, skunks and insects in the world were parts of China food supply 700 years ago!
All oil and minerals in the world were parts of the chins 700 years ago!

All liars in the world are parts of China 100 years ago!
Uighur Muslim nation is part of China since 700 year ago!
Iran nation was part of China 700 years ago! etc.,,,

etc.
etc.

All world rats and mice were parts of China 7000 years ago!

All dogs in the world were parts of China 7000 years ago!

all garbages and thieves and robbers and liars in the world were parts of China 700 years ago

"Tibet was part of China 700 years ago."

Erh, no. Tibet was not administered by any Han officials after the end of the Tang dynasty, and did not resume until the 1800's. Sung and Ming didn't have any overlord in Tibet. Mongolia had more influence on Tibet during Sung than the Hans. Tibet was part of Mongolia, not China during Mongolian occupation of China. Qing didn't send administrative officers to Tibet until pretty late, way after Qianlung.

There were ambassadors sent by Han dynasties to Tibet, just like US sent ambassadors to Beijing. If that constitute "part of", than China is part of US too. Japan sent ambassadors to China too. And so did Russia. Nepal did it too.

As to "tributes" sent by Tibet to Han dynasties, the Han dynasties sent much more to Tibet. Now, who is submissive to whom ?

Han dynasties sent two princesses to Tibet to appease the Tibetans. Nepal sent sixteen. If sending princesses is "part of", Tibet is part of Nepal.

"The White House has to chose between Beijing and
Tehran."

Why is that ? US is not China. China can only handle economic growth or democracy but not both. US can handle both China and Iran.

The White House has to chose between Beijing and
Tehran. Which is more important the destruction of
Iran's nuclear venture,or the independence of the Tibetans.A potential candidate to rent White house
next year has already agreed to obliterate Iran from the face of the earth.Who knows before the Torch reaches Beijing,the forces of freedom will be in Lahsa setting up the greenzone?

Not only we are stupidly asked to go to Tibet (or China) before critizise, but the majority of chinese (who do ask here) have never been in Tibet or in the remote areas where tibetans live.
So let me say, what's important is that you have known, talked to or lived with a Tibetan in order to know their feelings about the chinese occupation.
Ask them!

independence is seldom achieved in days or weeks, it takes decades of sacrifice then and only then nations get their independence. in case of tibet i donot remember any sacrifice made by tibetian or their leader Dalai Lama, who sits in five star luxary in New Dehli and travels in first class and likes talking to aperson no less then a head of a state.
it seems that the "torch phenemenon" is a creation of western agencies like CIA who did not want to miss this opportunity to ridicule the ever rising chinese.
i ask a simple question, if it is the indepence of a subdued nation that is so much bothering the european and american leaders, why are they dumb when it comes to Kashmir which is occupied by india for sixty years now and on whose independence security council's still-applicable resolutions exist and where the people have sacrificed over hunderd thousand lives by UNO calculations. i did not hear Nancy Pelosi or Mr Sarkozy utter a muffled sound for the indians to stop the atrocities of the seven hundred thousand strong force in kashmir, if any of you have heard any such sound please let me know as well

Economic considerations always trump democracy and freedom for the pompous Western leaders regardless of how much they trumpet democracy and freedom. It was the case when UK negotiated a separate deal with Tibetan government while assuring China that UK always considered Tibet a part of China in 1913. It is the case when UK sends a delegation of big diplomats to Beijing today. Having said that, cause of independence can only be sustained by Tibetans. If Tibetans truly want to keep their culture alive and flourishing, they are the ones who have to earn it with their blood against a mighty Communist China. While Buddhism abhors violence, only way for Tibetans to gain independence is through violence against a ruthless ruler, especially when that ruler in its claim over Tibet is supported by the whole world including so-called champions of freedom. Will Tibetans rise to the challenge? If they don’t, their culture and independent identity is destined to the dust bin of history, just like many before theirs.

This ugly Tibet episode is clearly a total loss for the United States. The Americans had badly underestimated the Chinese people this time. To try to break up a country or stir up internal chaos is an evil act, no matter if it is a small country like Serbia or a large country like China. Such agression is no different than the blatan invasion of Iraq with no justification. It is part of a troubling pattern of behaviors by the US since George W. Bush took office. Now, the US has finally succeeded in uniting virtuall every single Chinese in pursuit of theit national interests, this is probably a bigger failure than Iraq.

You should learn Tibet history before you talk .No one could split Tibet from China,The independent of Tibet is impossible,Neighter Han chinese nor the majority of Tibetan will allow the independent of Tibet.There are many the same things as the relation of Tibet and mainland china in the world,do you think Alaska and Texas should independ from the US?

Lets not deviate from the topic of this discussion. Agreed, there are many human rights violations happening around the world as we speak, but no one(including this author) is suggesting that African Americans or for that matter any other victims are less human than Tibetans.
However, there should be a distinction between this particular police incident in Queens, NY and the Tibetan freedom struggle. I don't believe that the American police are systemically gunning down or arresting arbitrarily any African American protesters on the streets like the Chinese govt does with the Tibetans protesters. If that was the case, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other civil rights leader would probably be dead or behind bars for expression of their beliefs by now!
Needless to say, I am a great admirer of late Dr. Martin Luther King and his non violent approach to problems. We, Tibetans take inspiration from his works on civil liberty in America.
Anyway Guys, stick to the topic of discussion in future or we'll go astray and won't serve any purpose.

Where are the so-called "Human Rights" demonstrators when police fired 50-shots to kill African-American Sean Bell in New York? Are African-Americans less human than Tibetans? Why there's no international out cry for the human rights of African-Americans in the U.S.???

It's awfully quiet in the U.S. corporate media on domestic human rights violations against African-Americans. At the same time, the corporate media is jumping all over the issue of Tibetan human rights.

Where are the French protests for African-American human rights? Where are the British protests for African-American human rights? Where are the international protests for African-American human rights? Where are human rights demonstrators that we see protesting for Tibet? Why won't these so-called human rights demonstrators do the same for African-Americans???

I know hypocrisy when I see it.

Tom, I really don't know how you can even comment on an issue as important as Tibet, when you neither know nor care learning about Tibet's history. Nevertheless, I'll try to enlighten you a bit about Tibet issue (not history) whether u like it or not.
All these immature allegations of Dalai Lama somehow orchestrating this recent unrest in Tibet is pure nonsense! Tibetans aren't even allowed to own a picture of Dalai lama in Tibet, it is actually an offense punishable by imprisonment. The Chinese govt has so far not produced a single shred of evidence to back it up, and neither do I believe that there is one in the first place.
You don't seem to get my argument from my earlier post. I stated that what matters most here is the right to self determination by the Tibetans. If and when the Chinese govt gives that right, I'll rest my case and accept whatever the Tibetans choose. Having said that, I am certain that Tibetans would overwhelmingly choose to be free from the Chinese rule. No wonder the Chinese govt is so scared to even entertain such thoughts.
Just so you know, the world has seen enough empire rise and fall in its history, and China is no exception. Just look at the recent collapse of Soviet Union and the birth of so many new nations from it. China is definitely not immune to the wind of change, surely it will blow there sooner or later. When that happens, Tibet will once again emerge from its ashes and become a nation by itself! Bhoe Gyalo!

You are missing the important in your essay:

Tibet is just China. There is no invasion issue. That is why most Governments does the way they do. I bet you if you asked the people who are demonstrating, they can not tell you things more than DaLai Lama. Do not tell me Dalai Lama equals to Tibet.

I really do not know much about Tibet history nor care. The reality is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for Tibet to be independent. Why in hell did Dalai Lama and his followers think he can achieve independence by instigating violence against innocent people and then making up lies and fanning up the media bias? The worst is that China take a backslash on his "soft power" campaign. Dalai Lama will forever live in India. Fortunately, he is enjoying a status of living god here. Well good for him.

There is no point in debating about history since each party has their own version, and of course most of the times,its the victors who writes the history anyway. However, I still believe that Tibet was an independent country in its entirety before the Chinese invasion in 1950s.
Whats more important in this current context is the right to self determination by the Tibetans themselves. I fervently believe that they alone should have the final say in this matter, and not Chinese or any other countries for that matter.
Unfortunately, I don't see that happening anytime soon since the Chinese are so adamant about keeping Tibet inside their empire at all costs and ruthlessly cracking down on any sorts of dissent inside historic Tibet.
China should have known better that military might alone cannot resolve this Tibet issue. They have failed to break the resolve of Tibetans for greater freedom even after half century of harsh Chinese rule in Tibet. Look at the recent events in Tibet, thats hardly a image of harmonized society that the Beijing is so desperately trying to portray to the rest of the world.
Common sense should prevail and the Chinese govt should negotiate with HH Dalai Lama for their own sake, rather than throwing insult and blaming him all the time(which the world doesn't believe anyways). If the current action of this Chinese govt is any indication of what they might do in future, then I am really worried about the future.

Hey, I think you need to spend more time on Tibetan history or a prime on Chinese history. Tibet was part of China 700 years ago.

"Tibet has no strategic value for the Americans, British or the French..."

I’ll try to be polite. Where do you get this idea from? To make it simple, imagine an independent pro-Western Tibet that is weak economically that has to depend on Western countries for support. What it has in exchange? How about a giant tower fortress over your emerging rival?

Judge by yourself if this is true.

www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
www.newspiritualbible.com/index2

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