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Any attempt to fall back on government to enforce our faith is in it's self a true lack of faith, If be have true faith then we will rely on to the power of the spirit to guide us and not some political stuffed shirt who treats faith as if it were his own personal idea.

Reverend Tulley:

Thanks for an excellent post. I expect that people would know your mission just as you said, by your love, service to others, and good common sense regarding the separation of church and state.

In all that I can support you 100%

Nonsense.

You're almost there. Next step is a new source for, "God’s standards." The old one is broke.

http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul says with authority that it's well beyond broke and all the way to dangerous. The greatest difficulty with “God’s standards” comes when we find that the source of “God’s standards” is Devil.

I'm sure you did a lot of good work with the youngsters and kept at least one off drugs which is plenty enough to make all your efforts worth while. You can still do that no matter how the Bible fares. Keeping our youth on the right track is independent of supernatural beings.

One can make a fairly good case that the introduction of "assumptions" about God has a negative effect on the young. Now take Huck for example, his readiness to establish the kingdom of God without ever questioning just which supernatural being that was in the burning bush or ponder the consequences of unwittingly establishing the kingdom of Devil.

I would have no difficulty sending my child to your youth group because you understand that we have no absolute source of, “God’s standards.” Before we start applying “God’s standards” to negate the constitution, substitute the Bible in it's place we must be a little more sure of what we are doing. We have a lot of history to guide us but history ignored soon becomes history repeated.

Red Fox said, "a dummy and his money are soon parted." There's a few too many 'free lancers' using the Bible to that end that fog the good work done by folks like you.

"If we have faith in our faith, that’s breathtaking enough."

Indeed it is. But what does it mean?

Rev. Tully writes: "If what we have to say is useful, we will be heard in the marketplace of ideas."

Well said sir.

Yet we are Beginning to succeed.

To quote Daniel Dennett:

Nothing has done more to discredit religious faith in recent years than the self-righteous overconfidence with which our leaders have “listened to God” instead of listening to the knowledgeable secular advisors who have warned them, repeatedly, of the follies they were embarking on.

Defenders of religion are eager to point out that the motivation for this war was not religious, in spite of President Bush’s blunder in calling it a “crusade,” but they must admit that the administration’s faith in faith over faith in facts has probably been the principle cause of the moral calamity that now confronts us.