Under God

Elton John's gay Jesus and other celebrity theologies

By Elizabeth Tenety

Even popes need to be careful what they wish for.

Three months ago, Pope Benedict gathered hundreds of painters, singers, sculptors, writers, actors and poets into the Sistine Chapel and called on them to ponder the "harmony between the journey of faith and the artist's path," and to consider ways to use their art and their platforms for God.

Elton John wasn't in attendance, but he apparently got the message.

As reported in Reliable Source, in an upcoming issue of Parade, Elton John used his celebrity to advance his unconventional theology:

"I think Jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man who understood human problems. On the cross, he forgave the people who crucified him. Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. I don't know what makes people so cruel. Try being a gay woman in the Middle East -- you're as good as dead."

Elton John is hardly the first celebrity to make controversial claims about the son of God. Here are nine others. Vote on your favorite, and let us know who we missed.

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Elizabeth Tenety

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"People would do well to remember that Jesus Christ was the first non-volent revolutionary"
- David Crosby (4 Way Street)

Posted by: rogied25 | February 18, 2010 11:35 PM
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What did the "H" stand for?

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | February 19, 2010 12:42 AM
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Elton John is a good example why OPENLY GAYS should not be allowed in the military.

It would not only ruin the military, it will destroy America. We can't allow idiots to guard us.

Posted by: spidermean2 | February 19, 2010 12:45 AM
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"Likewise, their men have given up natural sexual relations with women and burn with lust for each other. Men commit indecent acts with men, so they experience among themselves the PUNISHMENT they deserve for their perversion." (Romans 1:27)

Posted by: spidermean2 | February 19, 2010 12:45 AM
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Elton John is a sociopathic and unintelligent homosexual. For him to make such a blasphemous statement about my Lord Jesus Christ displays his highest level of insanity. I will not listen to his songs again. Ever! I was tolerant of his homosexuality but now he could not be tolerant of Jesus Christ and His followers without making ridicle of God the Son.

Posted by: midas20874 | February 19, 2010 12:47 AM
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"Elton John is a good example why OPENLY GAYS should not be allowed in the military."

"It would not only ruin the military, it will destroy America. We can't allow idiots to guard us."

This is a VERY funny comment on two counts:

1 - Elton John lives in England
2 - Elton John served as a Flight Lieutenant in the RAF.

Posted by: frantaylor | February 19, 2010 1:10 AM
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My mistake, it was his dad.

But still it is VERY funny to hear people make fun of gay people, as if they actually knew one.

Posted by: frantaylor | February 19, 2010 1:12 AM
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"1 - Elton John lives in England
2 - Elton John served as a Flight Lieutenant in the RAF."

Decay happens slowly. See what the
British Army would become a few years from now.

Posted by: spidermean2 | February 19, 2010 1:14 AM
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WWJD? Grab 12 buddies and go to town!!!

Posted by: carlbatey | February 19, 2010 1:59 AM
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I always love it when so called Christians make bigoted remarks...I'm pretty sure Jesus just wasn't into that sort of thing. He said once, I new commandment I give you, love one another....I think that would be a good place to start and a good measure of how close people are to following Jesus' teachings.

Posted by: tlusk58 | February 19, 2010 2:01 AM
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Expecting a musician to make an intelligent comment is like expecting a roomfull of monkeys to type Hamlet.

Posted by: Zeromeo | February 19, 2010 2:06 AM
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What does "I think" have to do with "Reality"...

Posted by: ekim53 | February 19, 2010 2:20 AM
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What does "I think" have to do with "Reality"...

Musicians and Movie stars are not known for their brillance when the script is gone and their music stops...

Posted by: sophic | February 19, 2010 2:24 AM
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Your God is not death...

Any God is a human invention and actually has never existed.

Simple but true.

And...
There is a new big bang underway, about 2000 lightyears from now, but it also might strike within 500 lightyears from now, who knows.

Your God nor government can do anything against this new big bang comming towards you in due time.

Have a nice day and forget all the religious bullsh_it.

Posted by: jwholtkamp | February 19, 2010 2:37 AM
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Elton John is a goof ball.

Posted by: annlawler26 | February 19, 2010 3:44 AM
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The Divine, by definition, is whatever we make of it -- ancient Hindu tenet that has stood the test of time. Yes, this spectrum includes everything from the sublime to the crass to the horrific. So, whatever we see "divine" personalities as, so they will be to us.

All this fuss is ludicrous.

And this genius:


"People would do well to remember that Jesus Christ was the first non-volent [sic] revolutionary"
- David Crosby (4 Way Street)

Posted by: rogied25 | February 18, 2010 11:35 PM

What utter bollocks! Never mind that Buddha existed long before Jesus was even a notion in someone's mind. What is it with you westerners? You seem to think History began and ended with the West! Ruddy nonsense. The East has had a much longer and richer history where most of the ideas of the West had already been propounded, tested, declined, re-risen, etc.

They just didn't have the publicity machinery of the Crusades, the sword, etc. and the Church.

So, open your eyes to the global time line. When you do, you will see Jesus in the context of a time and a place -- unique in some ways, and one more instance of a recurring theme in world intellectual history. No more no less. This does not take away from his accomplishments, but rather keeps things intellectually honest and enhances the importance of the ideas he propounded -- not all of which are his original.

If you don't open yourself up to the WORLD, you will be the frog in the well.

Posted by: ChandraShekharBalachandran | February 19, 2010 4:12 AM
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All people throughout history have envisioned their gods in their own image or their imagined ideal.

Posted by: OldCoot1 | February 19, 2010 4:48 AM
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Elton John is a pederast. Does this make jesus a pederast too?

Posted by: barferio | February 19, 2010 5:46 AM
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Sir Elton would say that. Wouldn't he? And at the same time he invokes religious figures, would be ignoring biblical injunctions against a fudgepacking lifestyle.

Posted by: Calabrese99 | February 19, 2010 5:53 AM
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Hey Spiderman below there you are again. Me thinks you may protest to loudly. Being an old geeser I will try to let you know more about Jesus when I get to the other side. In the mean time please put that bible book down and look for guidence from above not locked between two hard covers.

Posted by: eaglehawkaroundsince1937 | February 19, 2010 5:54 AM
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Elton John seems to make such remarks to validate his choice in such matters as being a gay man.

Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. He was the Word of God in the old testament before he emptied himself of being that to become human. He, as the word, and inspiring others words, warned that homosexuality is not acceptable (the action...not the person) and is a perversion. All of this is based on scripture...not personal interpretation such as EJ tried to do.

Posted by: TOTE | February 19, 2010 6:01 AM
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whu not do this type of article about mohamed or other so called Deities...
you only try to redicule Jesus Christ because Christianity is the only religion you wan t to destroy...

Posted by: DwightCollins | February 19, 2010 6:16 AM
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Interesting how insulting people can be when they have a simple disagreement with Elton John. WWJD? Resort to name calling?

I don't care who Jesus was interested in sexually. His good deeds and examples still stand either way.

Posted by: sarahabc | February 19, 2010 6:46 AM
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Jesus, the Christ , the son of the Living God was none of the things on your list...
He was the Christ, The Son of the Living God...
You cannot define him...
He is our saviour...

Posted by: DwightCollins | February 19, 2010 6:50 AM
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Another interesting John Lennon quote regarding Jesus, "Jesus was all right, but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me."

Posted by: Nevergen | February 19, 2010 7:27 AM
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rogied25, from what the bible says,Jesus came the first time as the suffering savoir of mankind. the second time He comes he will be King, with a rod of iron.justice will be served. and it won't be justice made up by us, it will be what the book say's it is.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | February 19, 2010 7:47 AM
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Man man across the water.

Posted by: menopausequeen | February 19, 2010 7:48 AM
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Hate the sin but love the sinner.

Posted by: hit4cycle | February 19, 2010 7:51 AM
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You crazy Christians make me laugh. Elton is no theologian and has no way of knowing that Jesus was Gay, Straight, or collected sea shells. Second, Jesus is a mythical creation like Zeus and Harry Potter. Get your heads out of the Bible, Koran, and Torah and just live a respectful and responsible life.

Posted by: dominicr | February 19, 2010 7:54 AM
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Fascinating that no one is interested in taking John's suggestion seriously . . . as though it really would be blasphemous to suggest that Jesus was gay. Why? If one is truly tolerant of homosexuality, why is it wrong to make that suggestion?

In fact, if the gospels are to be taken as evidence, the most reasonable conclusion was that Jesus was gay. He walked around with a bunch of guys advocating peace and love. He died a virgin. He was a highly non-conformist individual. He was clearly an outsider. I absolutely believe that he was gay.

Posted by: mgeorgeg | February 19, 2010 8:10 AM
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Many gay men seriously believe that most, if not all, men who are unmarried and/or have not children are gay. I was seriously told by a gay friend that George Washington was gay, because he had no kids.

This appropriation of straight historical men as gay is a way of legitimizing their "lifestyle."

Of course, there were a lot of closet gays, like Michelangelo, an outwardly very religious man (supporter of Savonarola) and Leonardo DaVinci (who was so greatly offended at being accused of being gay in Florence, he moved to Milan). How to prove these men were NOT gay 400 years later. And, when you suggest they aren't you are accused of being a homophobe.

So, I am not surprised that they have claimed Jesus as one of their own. (Real scholars have wondered why he was roaming around Judea with a bunch of men when he should have been living in one place with a wife and reproducing like a good Jew, so this isn't the first time this issue has been raised.) I seriously doubt that the historical Jesus, a devout Jew, practiced sodomy with his disciples, but what do I know? I do know there's no evidence to support Elton's assertion, so case closed. Don't go there.

Message to Gay Community: Not all men are secret gays. Eat your heart out.

Finally, why would WAPO even bother to waste the newsprint or bandwidth on what such eminent theologians as Marilyn Manson, Elton John, Elvis, Madonna, etc. think about Jesus? Answer: to get people riled and bring out the fundamentalists foaming at the mouth with rage. Is that the purpose of this column or is it serious discussion of matters of faith??

Another point: This ludicrous series of questions is another example of how "celebrities" in this shallow culture have become leaders. Does anyone with a brain cares what George Clooney thinks about anything but acting....

Posted by: Afraid4USA | February 19, 2010 8:28 AM
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Dear McGeorgeG: What an outrageous post. How on earth do you know Jesus was a virgin when he died? Which "Gospel" contains this "fact"? Your ridiculous and ignorant post proves my point: Every historical figure who wasn't aggressively masculine is suspect and, if suspect, probably gay. And, anyone who questions this assertion is a bigot.

Posted by: Afraid4USA | February 19, 2010 8:41 AM
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So what... another rant from a narrcistic Leftist whose ID could never catch up to his self absorbed qoutient.

Posted by: falconflight | February 19, 2010 8:42 AM
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Christianity is a religion for losers.
Ted Turner

Posted by: spro | February 19, 2010 8:43 AM
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Our fair haired limp wrist
got it right !!

Jesus Christ sukt dix.

His ma fukt 'um.

Posted by: flyersout | February 19, 2010 8:49 AM
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Spidermean2 is a good example why GRAMMATICALLY MORONS should not be allowed outdoors, away from their parents' basements.

Posted by: orthodoxheathen | February 19, 2010 9:11 AM
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It's understandable he would say Jesus was gay. It makes him feel better about himself. If he was a drug addict he would suggest Jesus was high on one of their indigenous plants.

Posted by: crumppie | February 19, 2010 9:14 AM
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Elton John gives gays a bad name. John needs to go back in the closet and shut the door behind him.

Posted by: 45upnorth | February 19, 2010 9:16 AM
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As a young man I really liked E John's music and tolerated his homosexuality. Then I saw the tape of him performing at a homosexual fund raiser with male strippers in the background dressed as CUB SCOUTS! That did it for me. His latest statement is just another issue from his perverted mind.

Posted by: TStewart2 | February 19, 2010 9:30 AM
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Elton John is in no danger of understanding the scriptures anytime soon.

Posted by: SayWhat4 | February 19, 2010 9:32 AM
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Hey jwholtkamp, isn't a lightyear a measure of distance, not time?

Posted by: nonenmac | February 19, 2010 9:34 AM
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Spidermean2
Did you ever hear of the Greek warriors or the Samurai?
They were openly gay. Do you really believe you could survive 5 minutes if you threw your crap in their face?
I bet you think you are better than women; ever hear of Bodecia?
Why are you so afraid?

Posted by: PeterODay | February 19, 2010 9:35 AM
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Elton John is definitely NOT Jesus Christ.

Posted by: improvista | February 19, 2010 9:37 AM
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If Jesus was a Jew, then why does he have a Hispanic name?

(Unknown)

Posted by: yampaco | February 19, 2010 9:39 AM
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Guess what folks -- Elton John doesn't care what you think of him! LOL!

Posted by: MarylandJ | February 19, 2010 9:44 AM
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Anothe post states incorrectly that EJ was in the Royal Air Force. That's not true -- but his dad was in the Royal Air Force.

Posted by: MarylandJ | February 19, 2010 9:45 AM
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Read what C.S. Lewis had to say about sexuality in his book the Hideous Strength, the last book of a trilogy (Out of the Silent Planet, Perelandra, Hideous Strength). Its very interesting and very relevant to this discussion.

Jesus was fully human but his passion, his deepest desire was not sexual, for sexuality is too limited an aspect of humanity to emcompass the majesty and the power of the Incarnate Word. His eros was doing the will of the father (eros in the classical meaning of deep seated love)
He lived for it; He died for it; and He rose from the dead for it.

Posted by: agapn9 | February 19, 2010 9:46 AM
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Man created God.

Sharon Lee

Posted by: spro | February 19, 2010 9:46 AM
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The bible says "work out your salvation with Fear and trembling" The lord is not a little baby wrapped in swaddling clothes. Read the description of the Lord in revelations.

Posted by: Whicketawilliams | February 19, 2010 9:53 AM
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How sloppy, WaPo. You missed the best quote of all, "I'm more famous than Jesus Christ" - Muhammad Ali

Posted by: redstriped | February 19, 2010 9:59 AM
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Elton John's Gayism does not extend to Jesus, who lived thirty three lives to reach the Messiah Level from Amilus to Jesus he lived and died as a Man, the only "Begotten Son of God" and in his Redemptive Status, sex was not the issue for which he came, but he came to die for our sins, giving us the right to "Salvation" and "Eternal Life." When those who have lived lives as male or female for many life times, which makes his or her soul more male or female and they take the option to return in reincarnation, without waiting for the Plan that has been put in place for them, they find themselves with more gendered male souls in female bodies and vice versa, which leads to Gayism or Lesbianism. Elton, being Gay does not give you the right to condemn Jesus to your live style.

Posted by: vwatson25 | February 19, 2010 10:02 AM
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You know...I try really hard not to judge people; even those who choose lifestyles that are specifically identified as an abomination in the Bible. In my opinion, based upon God's Word being gay is no different than being an adulterous, a fornicator, a liar, etc., etc., they are all sins of the flesh. All are continuous acts, so unless a person decides to refrain from any of these acts and then ask for forgiveness, they are all “living in” sin. I have nothing against gay people...in fact; I am more tolerant of gays than I am of any of the others that I have mentioned. As it is written in scripture, love the sinner; hate the sin--that's my philosophy in life; scripture also states that we have “all” sinned and fallen short of His glory…the difference is to sin is to be given the opportunity to seek forgiveness; to live in sin—how does one seek forgiveness? But Elton John has made a judgment upon Christ that is nestled in his own sinful behavior and that is an abomination. Prior to this comment of his, to me he was a great entertainer, but hence forth and forever more in my mind he is the crud of the earth. I pray that he will find it in his heart to at least ask forgiveness of this one sin before he meets his maker.

And finally, for all of you right-wing religious fundamentalist who hate folks based upon their race, sex, sexual preference, religion, nationality, etc.; you will be judged worst than any gay person on your judgment day, because you of all people should know better--you use the scriptures to justify your hate, and therefore your acts are no different than this comment and belief of Elton John's!

Posted by: Beingsensible | February 19, 2010 10:03 AM
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Sounds like these celebrities see in Jesus whatever they want to see, and they may not be alone in this. That concept seems anti-knowledge to me.

The Divine, by definition, is whatever we make of it

Would you explain? Either that entity exists or it doesn't. Unless you're talking about a concept and not an entity.

Posted by: Carstonio | February 19, 2010 10:04 AM
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Sounds like these celebrities see in Jesus whatever they want to see, and they may not be alone in this. That concept seems anti-knowledge to me.

The Divine, by definition, is whatever we make of it

Would you explain? Either that entity exists or it doesn't. Unless you're talking about a concept and not an entity.

Posted by: Carstonio | February 19, 2010 10:09 AM
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Guess what folks -- Elton John doesn't care what you think of him! LOL!
Posted by: MarylandJ
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So are we now restricted to our opinion only of those who "care what we think" of them? Trust that he cares more about what we think of him, than we care about what he thinks of us...it's market driven; and he's not our market...we are his.

Posted by: Beingsensible | February 19, 2010 10:11 AM
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It was less likely that Jesus of Nazareth was gay, than were some, at least, of his devoted followers--his disciples.

In fact, it is written that he was chided for paying too much attention to Mary of Magdala.

Posted by: paultaylor1 | February 19, 2010 10:20 AM
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Freedom of Religion in the United States is great... until someone believes in a religion that is different from yours.

I think President Obama spoke the truth when he spoke about Conservative Anglo Saxons clinging to their religion and guns. Especially when they're afraid of the status quo changing. I guess, if those people whom are afraid change and evolution within society are really saying that they want to continue to see the oppression of minorities,gays, and lesbians.

Posted by: Debonair31 | February 19, 2010 10:23 AM
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FranTaylor stated: "2 - Elton John served as a Flight Lieutenant in the RAF."

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Actually, it was his father who was a Flight Lieutenant, not Elton. Elton began playing piano in bars around age 15 and had no military service.

Posted by: WestTexan2008 | February 19, 2010 10:24 AM
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Had to laugh when I heard Elton's comment. When I was a kid, I had an aunt who used to say the same thing. I don't find it offensive as I too believe Jesus was welcoming of everyone, yes even gay people. I see all the hatred today that Christians toss at other "different" people and they forget that in His day, Jesus was VERY different and non-conforming. Whether Jesus was gay or not isn't the issue. I do think Jesus wouldn't have had any problem with gays and would have treated them the same as all His children.

Posted by: GenuineRisk | February 19, 2010 10:25 AM
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Frank Zappa's "Jesus Thinks You're a Jerk" should have been a choice.

Posted by: merrill1 | February 19, 2010 10:26 AM
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Elton John apparently knows little about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. What blaspamy he has spoken trying to justify his sinful acts of homosexualality.

Posted by: rmilton | February 19, 2010 10:28 AM
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The best Jesus quote I heard in my life came from a young Army private with whom I bunked during Basic Training. Once he finished boot camp, he was going on to become a vehicle mechanic. I, other the hand, was going to study Arabic to become an interpreter, but this was something he simply could not understand.

"Why on earth would anyone want to study a foreign language?" he asked.

My attempts to extol the virtues of travel, understanding other cultures, meeting new people, etc. were all met with a look of befuddled bemusement. Finally, he settled the issue.

"Well," he said with heart-felt devotion, "if English was good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for me."

(I met him again many years later in Iraq. A fine soldier, he had since been promoted to First Sergeant and was NCOIC of a transportation unit, looking after the daily welfare and safety of over 400 soldiers in the most dangerous part of Iraq. All Jesus did was turn water into wine (once), fed some hungry people (once), and walk on water (once). I'd take this sergeant over Jesus as a savior any day of the week!)

Posted by: RaoulDuke1 | February 19, 2010 10:35 AM
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Elton John may be right, for all we know.

But if Jesus was gay, the larger question would be whether he ever chose to lead a sexual life that conformed to his gay nature.

The truth we believe---and there is no evidence to the contrary---is that Jesus never once gave in to sin. He did not violate the truth of his human nature or his Father's law.

Do gays ever ask, if Jesus was gay, how would he (indeed, how did he) have handle(d) his sexuality?

Posted by: Bluefish2012 | February 19, 2010 10:48 AM
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Afraid4USA writes:

"Dear McGeorgeG: What an outrageous post. How on earth do you know Jesus was a virgin when he died? Which "Gospel" contains this 'fact'"

So your claim is that Jesus was havind sex out of wedlock? What does your precious book Romans say about that? Mr. Afraid, you homophobes sure like to pick and choose the Biblical injunctions you'll accept, don't you?

Posted by: chaos1 | February 19, 2010 10:48 AM
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Lets see:

As far as we know, Jesus never dated women.

He never married. (By 33 a good Jewish man would have been married.)

He spent all his time with twelve men and a prostitute whose profession he condemned.

He call John the disciple that he loved.

Oh, and he brought the wine to weddings!

Looks like a vote for Elton!

Posted by: bob2davis | February 19, 2010 10:51 AM
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According to your Bible, Jesus regularly travelled, ate and slept with 12 guys (no one disciple in particular, but evidently he was pretty hot for James, or was it John?) and he hung out with a couple of local fag hags (Mary, and the other Mary. They must have been fag hags because you guys are absolutely apoplectic if anyone even suggests that Jesus actually slept with a woman). And frankly Christians, if you were in your 30s, unmarried, hanging out with a bunch of guys who left their wives to follow only you, even in ancient Israel, you would be gay...really gay. And if Jesus actually hated homos as much as spidermean says we all should, then Jesus was deep into the closet, just like spidermean. C'mon! Have you seen the flowing robes that even Christians agree was what Jesus wore back then...I smell drag queen!

Posted by: bobdog3 | February 19, 2010 11:00 AM
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Archie Bunker is a fictitious character, not a celebrity, so he doesn't belong on the list. I guess you could say the same thing of Madonna and Marylin Manson, though, so never mind.

Posted by: msh41 | February 19, 2010 11:05 AM
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Kris Kristofferson

"Jesus was a Capricorn, he ate organic foods.
He believed in love and peace and never wore no shoes.
Long hair, beard and sandals and a funky bunch of friends.
Reckon they'd just nail him up if He come down again.

'Cos everybody's got to have somebody to look down on.
Who they can feel better than at anytime they please.
Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on.
If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me"

Posted by: giff | February 19, 2010 11:13 AM
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According to the Bible on my bookshelf (which, apparently is different from the approved Neu uber-Christian version), its not our job to judge 'ol Reg.

"Soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world
So there was only one thing that I could do
was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long"
Ministry - "Jesus Built my Hotrod"

Posted by: nonsensical2001 | February 19, 2010 11:19 AM
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Hey. I have a good idea. Why don't you "reporters" get a job? No wonder the Post is losing money and subscribers. What a load of malarkey. Theology-Lite hashed and re-hashed.

Posted by: FredAlbert | February 19, 2010 11:25 AM
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Fave quote:

"ROCK ME SEXY JESUS."

Posted by: bs2004 | February 19, 2010 11:26 AM
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"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Mohandas Gandhi

Posted by: nonsensical2001 | February 19, 2010 11:51 AM
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We all create god in our own image. Read David Gerrold's novel "When Harlie Was One."

Posted by: lepidopteryx | February 19, 2010 11:53 AM
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Get substantial! Jesus, as a singular (or "single man" as in the movie) probably did not exist. Saul of Tarsus defined his composite personality about a hundred years after the period based upon the characters of the "healers", magicians and other charlatans who preyed upon the Jews, desperate and restive under Roman rule.

Posted by: Coruscator | February 19, 2010 11:56 AM
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"Yes Jesus loves you, but I don't. And God may forgive you, but I won't. And I won't even try."
Iris Dement

Posted by: lepidopteryx | February 19, 2010 11:57 AM
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You hypocritical "Christians" make me laugh. Or sometimes cry. Where are you when people are really in need? Gay -- that's not a choice any more than when, long ago, one day you decided to be heterosexual. It's not a choice. And the poor? How many among you have done anything of significance to help the poor other than open your checkbook? And the pro-birth among you? Been to an adoption clinic lately? You chastise (some of you take a gun and shoot) those who are pro-choice, but you don't lift afinger to help those who keep their child or put it up for adoption -- you don't raise even a a finger. And you have the nerve to criticize others, when you don't do adarn thing to support the causes you say you are for, but clearly do not give a rat's behind about.

Christians. A bunch of hypocrites.
You want to see someone who has awful, "anti-Christian," meaningless values??
Look in the mirror.

Posted by: rlcjr | February 19, 2010 12:01 PM
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Nitschke said God is dead. Within a few nanoseconds God time, God said Nitschke is dead.

Posted by: elderbetty | February 19, 2010 12:04 PM
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The "H" stands for Harold. Jesus Harold Christ.

Posted by: screwjob2 | February 19, 2010 12:06 PM
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it's pretty obvious Jesus was gay, but he was lucky to live in a time and in a culture where apparently he could get away with it. it's sad now how people can be so disrespectful to Jesus and his teachings about love, to twist the bible to suit their own hate filled agenda.

Posted by: MarilynManson | February 19, 2010 12:13 PM
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Jesus was someone who actualized the potential of a human being. He became enlightened. Very few people have knowledge and experience about that process.

Posted by: LifeBeforePrinciple | February 19, 2010 12:15 PM
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1 God - 1 Faith - and 1 Baptism.

Posted by: karen_riley18 | February 19, 2010 12:16 PM
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For those of you who think "GAY" only applies to "leftists", remember Larry Craig and other high profile right-wing hypocrites who were caught in gay situations they themselves initiated.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | February 19, 2010 12:16 PM
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You know, I don't know what the deal is with people nowadays. We simply make up stuff and "because it's on the Internet" it must be true. Elvis Presley never at any point called himself "the king." He got angry and walked off stage and told the folks who were listening "There ain't but One King!" He was referring to Jesus Christ. There is also a rumor going around that John Lennon said the Beatles were greater than God then was shot three times. For one thing, people who would never say something like that have been shot; and for another thing, John Lennon lived another nearly 40 years after that statement was made. Why would it have taken God nearly 40 years to have John Lennon shot, particularly considering that he lived long enough to not only have a lucrative and successful career, but died in infamy, with plenty of money, and still beloved by his biggest fans, having written "Imagine," a top-selling much-sung song to this day. Get a grip folks. Don't believe the hype. Michael Jackson didn't self-pronounce himself the King of Pop, either. Michael was a very humble man for someone who stayed in so much trouble--the kind he got himself into and the kind others made for him. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. If Elton John thinks Jesus Christ was "gay," then he's got mental problems accountable and attributable only to himself and for which he will, one day, have to answer.

Posted by: greeneink | February 19, 2010 12:27 PM
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Elton John is an angry old bloated man. It is a stupid comment from a stupid man and deserves no response.

Posted by: djrhood | February 19, 2010 12:33 PM
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Just because Jesus never married doesn't mean he was a homophile (that term seems more appropriate for the times he lived in than the modern time of gay). Personally, I think Jesus was asexual: he had bigger things to worry about than sex, and, as it turns out, very little time to achieve his goals.

Posted by: bucinka8 | February 19, 2010 12:49 PM
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fr beingsensible:

>You know...I try really hard not to judge people; even those who choose lifestyles that are specifically identified as an abomination in the Bible. In my opinion, based upon God's Word being gay is no different than being an adulterous, a fornicator, a liar, etc., etc., they are all sins of the flesh. All are continuous acts, so unless a person decides to refrain from any of these acts and then ask for forgiveness, they are all “living in” sin. I have nothing against gay people...in fact; I am more tolerant of gays than I am of any of the others that I have mentioned....

I love it when anti-gays actually claim that they are "more tolerant of gays ..." and also compare us to pedophiles, murderers, those who have sex with animals, etc. It's really sad that people who believe this obviously live in mommy's basement.

Posted by: Alex511 | February 19, 2010 12:53 PM
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I straight up love Jesus Christ, the Lord and Savior, the son of man. I don't take offense from Sir Elton J's comment. I don't think Jesus was gay, though.

But I do think he was black as night.

Holla!

Posted by: levj0nes | February 19, 2010 12:54 PM
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It's good to hear from that great biblical scholar Elton John... I wonder if he dose his own taxes too and says "I think" I can deduct this too...

Posted by: sophic | February 19, 2010 12:54 PM
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The media gives too much attention to uninformed celebrity opinion. I don't know if JC was gay -- and neither does anybody else. It's all beside the point of the man's (Jesus') main message.

No doubt someone will point out the "abomination" quote from the bible, to which I would say: get back on point.

Posted by: semitone | February 19, 2010 1:09 PM
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Isn't there a whole period of Je$u$'s life that is not documented in the bible? Maybe he was getting of da hook in that time? Experimenting until he devoted his life and bits to God.

Posted by: levj0nes | February 19, 2010 1:13 PM
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Was Jesus gay? Here are some quotations from the Bible (New International Version):

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John 13:

21-After he had said this, Jesus was troubled in spirit and testified, "I tell you the truth, one of you is going to betray me."

22-His disciples stared at one another, at a loss to know which of them he meant.

23-One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him.

24-Simon Peter motioned to this disciple and said, "Ask him which one he means."

25-Leaning back against Jesus, he asked him, "Lord, who is it?"

John 20:

1-Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance.

2-So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, "They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don't know where they have put him!"

John 21:

20-Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them. (This was the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper and had said, "Lord, who is going to betray you?")

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Clearly Jesus loved one disciple differently than the others.

Posted by: jblatt | February 19, 2010 1:14 PM
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You know people are starving to death in this country (USA) and kids don't have health care. So what do we do? Spend all our time obsessing over gay people.
Get some perspective, worry about real problems!!

What other people do in the privacy of their bedrooms is none of your business. And isn't it interesting that the same people who prattle on about getting government out of our lives, want to use it to control other people's sex lives? Can you say BUSYBODY?

Posted by: kashe | February 19, 2010 1:18 PM
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Black Jesus was gay?

Posted by: levj0nes | February 19, 2010 1:19 PM
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TOTE.....you hit it all on the nose....nothing else to say

Posted by: sonel | February 19, 2010 1:19 PM
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Or, if you prefer King James:

John 13:23. Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.

21:20. Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?

Posted by: jblatt | February 19, 2010 1:27 PM
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The RAPTURE can't get here soon enough! Get these religious freaks off my planet! PLEASE!

Posted by: kparc | February 19, 2010 1:30 PM
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Did somebody say rap?

Go Black Jesus!

Posted by: levj0nes | February 19, 2010 1:43 PM
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The quote about Jesus being the first non-violent revolutionary is incorrectly attributed to David Crosby. It's actually by Stephen Stills in his medley of 49 Bye Byes/America's Children.

Posted by: cgold | February 19, 2010 1:45 PM
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Quoting people is pretentious; quoting entertainers is insane.

You can quote me on that.

Posted by: Wallenstein | February 19, 2010 1:51 PM
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A couple of years ago, it occurred to me that yes, Jesus was gay, but what is wrong with that? Oh and BTW, he was also dark skinned.
A Christian lady

Posted by: remorse | February 19, 2010 1:57 PM
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Elton John, with foot in mouth again. What unnecessary commentary. In a way he perpetuates a gay stereotype, which is that affection between men (Jesus and John?) must be sexual. Hopefully Elton John lives in a mental world bigger than that.

Posted by: Matthew_DC | February 19, 2010 1:59 PM
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I think Elton John is supergay not-so-intelligent man

Posted by: Robster1 | February 19, 2010 2:11 PM
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Rapture! Please Now!

Posted by: kparc | February 19, 2010 2:14 PM
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You know I never thought of it. But it would explain his sensitivity to all human beings. Speaking of Jesus that is. Maybe that is why he did not reproduce. But maybe demi-gods procreate differently. I don't understand why this would upset anyone. So what if Jesus were gay.

Posted by: davidsawh | February 19, 2010 2:14 PM
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I don't have one. I think 99.99% of the population twist the words of Jesus and the Bible to their own bidding. I hope that I am at least moving towards being in that other .01%.

Posted by: gonhkn | February 19, 2010 2:25 PM
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Putting the "Sir" in front of Elton Johns name proves that the English have a weird sense of humor. A perfect Monty Python skit.

Also, if anyone cares what Elton John says that person needs to get a real life.

Elton John belongs in a freak show.

Posted by: battleground51 | February 19, 2010 2:27 PM
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This whole series of quotes is blasphemous. The Post should be ashamed.

Posted by: billt4 | February 19, 2010 2:52 PM
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Jesus taught us to love one another and that judgment is reserved to God alone. As far as the gay community is concerned it is good to note that an estimated 28% of Catholic priests are gay, about the same percentage of Republicans in Congress, and a good number in the military protecting this nation. By the way, I'm straight.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | February 19, 2010 2:56 PM
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It is funny that Elton John has so many opinions about Jesus the Christ since in his excellent career spanning more than 25 albums / CDs he has mentioned Jesus about 3 times, once with the lyrics that "Jesus wants to go Venus". Granted Elton only writes the music to his songs, Bernie Taupin writes the words. But, if Jesus the Christ is such an important topic to Sir Elton, how about including him in some of your lyrics!

Posted by: smv604 | February 19, 2010 3:12 PM
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midas20874,
How is John's comment ridicule? It might only be blasphemous if one were to prove Jesus weren't gay. No one knows for sure. We have a history of imagining Jesus in our own image. Do you ever wonder why a man who lived his life in the middle east is often depicted as fair-skinned in the west? How is that different from imagining Christ as gay. Chris was celebate as far as I know, so what difference does it make to conjecture whether he was gay or straight?

Posted by: hfed | February 19, 2010 3:12 PM
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This should PO the Republican base real good.

Posted by: jrw1 | February 19, 2010 3:14 PM
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Speaking of blasphemy, did anyone else misinterpret "Jesus is Just Alright" as meaning "merely all right instead of great"? Or how about the fact that the band best known for that song is named for an intoxicating drug? How many Christian denominations oppose the use of intoxicating substances? I

Posted by: Carstonio | February 19, 2010 3:18 PM
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Do you ever wonder why a man who lived his life in the middle east is often depicted as fair-skinned in the west?

Not just fair-skinned, but also resembling Barry Gibb...I once saw a painting of Jesus that still depicted long hair and a beard, but the skin color and features were more African than European.

Posted by: Carstonio | February 19, 2010 3:26 PM
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Lemme see, we are all to conjecture about a myth and make like we are not joking.... Not sure I can delude myself like the rest of you fools.

The only blasphemy possible is against the truth, by suggesting that this mythical Jew world babysitter is real, or even if real, matters.

All monotheisms are crimes against the truth.

Posted by: AIPACiswar | February 19, 2010 3:30 PM
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I think Elton might have angered some superstitious people with his Jesus comment. (I consider to be superstitious those who make up beings like a god which are figments of man's imagination.)

Posted by: davidsawh | February 19, 2010 3:31 PM
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JUST REMEMBER JESUS IS COMONG AGAIN OH BOY HELL IS GOING TO BE OVER FULL. YOU BETTER REPENT INCLUDING ELTON JOHN

Posted by: metromybuddy | February 19, 2010 3:37 PM
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You bible thumping sheep are so disillusioned, you would believe anything and follow anybody.
You sheeple think that some man died on a cross for your sins.
Wrong, your sins are your sins, you committed them, you live and die with them.
There is no heaven or hell like you mind washed sheeple think.
There is an ongoing evolution of the soul to eventually reach the highest state of attainment, when that happens, if you are luck, you will be a budda or a dali lama.
Until then, you mind washed little sheeple keep your own mind altered, washed opinions to yourself.

Posted by: JimW2 | February 19, 2010 3:37 PM
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In the end, Elton John can say and think anything he wants! It shouldn't have any effect on you if you don't agree with him. We are all only accountable for our own deeds, feelings and thoughts. Right or wrong, crazy or not,these comments also do not touch Jesus or God. Only they know the heart of Elton John. It is not for us to worry about. Get over yourselves people. Jesus would probably have a chuckle over the comment anyhow. Lighten up.
Never have been able to stand Elton John's music myself though...but that's beside the point.

Posted by: watsonjl1 | February 19, 2010 3:59 PM
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I keep wondering when the Washington Post (or any other MSM outlet) will publish a story entitled: "Was Mohammed gay?" Or how about "Was Mohammed a pedophile?" given the fact his wife as nine-years-old.

Ummmm, how about never.

Liberals believe that freedom of speech is a beautiful thing except for Christians and conservatives. And, of course, they certainly wouldn't want to say anything to "offend" Muslims.

Posted by: finesseaugrande | February 19, 2010 4:12 PM
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Gotta Love It! The delusions of the human mind are so delicious; the novelty will never end! You Christians know that Jesus got that surname several centuries after his purported death...right? You know that if Jesus was GOD, and you certainly can not kill GOD; therefore if Jesus was really killed then it was either a big play of GOD, or a hoax..right? You do know that good ole Paul; the founder of Christianity admits to never actually seeing or hearing Jesus...if he really existed at all? If GOD was going to go to the bother of incarnating as an illiterate carpenter in a Roman occupied land and have the story tellers some 3-4 centuries later write the definitive book on how to live and join GOD in eternal adoration; that maybe, just maybe, he could have written something in blazing letters on some mountain somewhere...maybe? or at least scrawled a note saying "Jesus was Here"? Something??

Posted by: Chaotician | February 19, 2010 4:13 PM
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Posted by: metromybuddy "You bible thumping sheep are so disillusioned, you would believe anything and follow anybody.
You sheeple think that some man died on a cross for your sins."
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I would just love to hear you say that to a Muslim Jihadist, knuckle-dragger. Go ahead, walk up to some Muslim and tell him he's a "Koran-thumper" and just another disillusioned Islamic sheep.

Better take some crazy glue with you sport--to glue your head back on. And also, pray to God (whichever one might deign to have you) that you never have to live under Muslim rule.

Posted by: finesseaugrande | February 19, 2010 4:17 PM
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I'd say the "H" is for Horus. Since Jesus' life mirror's this mythical Egyption demigod's life. Imagine that, one imaginary figure mirroring another imaginary figure.

Posted by: mdshumaker | February 19, 2010 4:17 PM
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Got the courage to play this game with "Allah"?


How's about Dalai Lama or Krishna?

Posted by: wingsofeasels@msn.com | February 19, 2010 4:26 PM
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It is funny how people argue about which they or others know so little of. Jesus could be anything from God to a fictional character created by Constantine to help keep power over the Roman Empire.

Even the Bible has only four chapters about what he said or did, any those four were all somewhat similar. How can you argue if he was gay or not. Too funny.

Posted by: DrWho2 | February 19, 2010 4:37 PM
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One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.Diogenes of Sinope

Posted by: DrWho2 | February 19, 2010 4:42 PM
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And a quote for all the Bible, Koran, ect. thumpers.

Beware of the man of one book’ - St. Thomas Aquinas.

Posted by: DrWho2 | February 19, 2010 4:46 PM
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"We're taller than Jesus"

John Lennon, in "Paperback Writer".

Posted by: GRILLADES | February 19, 2010 4:49 PM
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Actually, what the Pope said is most telling. One of the Ten Commandments is to make no likeness of anything in heaven, earth or under. Exodus 20 AS WRITTEN, without commentary. Deuteronomy 4:2 says not to add to or take from God’s commandments.

Moses says, I know that you will defile yourself through the work of your hands.

"Pope Benedict gathered hundreds of painters, singers, sculptors, writers, actors and poets into the Sistine Chapel and called on them to ponder the "harmony between the journey of faith and the artist's path," and to consider ways to use their art and their platforms for God."

This is what God warned us of. We can see the hypocrisy in Elton John and others, but the religious leaders we expect to be leading us in truth. That is why we must read and know for ourselves; then we can correct our leaders of religion and government. When we follow what Jesus said, instead of religions, we will not be following Christmas, Easter, but keeping the days of No Work God commanded in Leviticus 23 and Exodus 12.

http://www.divine-way.com
God has solutions to world problems we created by ignoring His wisdom

Posted by: MarieDevine | February 19, 2010 5:10 PM
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Will Elton John put together a "Jesus Is Gay" song anytime soon?

Please, The Faster To Market Such Lyrics the Better. We Would like To Hear Jesus through Elton Exclusively. Elton is our Savior!

Elton, You Are our Hope and a Beautiful Gay Man Just like Jesus.

Oh Jesus, Jesus Oh Praise the Lord for a Gay Jesus. Finally The Truth is Marching On!

Yes, The Truth Will Set Us Gay's free now.
Thank You Father.

Posted by: oldsong1 | February 19, 2010 5:48 PM
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Right on, Coruscator.
Like the poem goes..

Roses are red
Violets are bluish
If it wasn't for Paul
We'd all be Jewish.

Posted by: spro | February 19, 2010 6:10 PM
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Stan: You know, somebody once said, “Don’t try to be a great man, just be a man.”

Jesus: Who said that?

Stan: You did, Jesus.

Jesus: You’re right, Stan. Thank you, boys!

Kyle: Wow, did he say that in the Bible?

Stan: Nah, I saw it on Star Trek.

Posted by: DonRitchie | February 19, 2010 8:16 PM
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Elton John is not a theologian or biblical scholar, so he's entitled to one man's opinion the same as anyone else is.

(And he's probably right.)

Posted by: WmarkW | February 19, 2010 8:25 PM
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Good thing Jesus was crucified; otherwise he would have died of AIDS since he was gay.

Posted by: FridayKnight | February 19, 2010 8:30 PM
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"Below is a rather random collection of celebrity quotes about religion. Some are serious and thoughtful, others are, well, not. Quotes are ordered by last name (or only name) of the celebrity.

"Not only is there no God, but try getting a plumber on weekends."
- Woody Allen,

"My Philosophy" in the The New Yorker

"I intend to make Scientology as accessible to as many people as I can."
- Jenna Elfman, ABCNews.com

"Vatican II corrupted the institution of the church. Look at the main fruits: dwindling numbers and pedophilia."
- Mel Gibson, Time, January 27, 2003

"Technically, I'm an agnostic, but I definitely believe in hell - especially after watching the fall TV schedule."
- Matt Groening, Celebrity Atheist List

"I'm an atheist, and that's it. I believe there's nothing we can know except that we should be kind to each other and do what we can for people"
- Katharine Hepburn, Ladies' Home Journal, October 1991

"From my point of view I would ban religion completely, even though there are some wonderful things about it. I love the idea of the teachings of Jesus Christ and the beautiful stories about it, which I loved in Sunday school and I collected all the little stickers and put them in my book. But the reality is that organised religion doesn't seem to work. It turns people into hateful lemmings and it's not really compassionate."
- Elton John, The Observer, November 12, 2006


"There doesn't need to be a God for me. There's something in people that's spiritual, that's godlike. I don't feel like doing things just because people say things, but I also don't really know if it's better to just not believe in anything, either."
- Angelina Jolie, AV Club, September 6, 2000

continued below:

Posted by: YEAL9 | February 20, 2010 9:11 AM
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"Since I joined the [Mormon] Church, I desire to be more and more obedient to God. As I do so, many people say to me, 'I see a light in you more than ever before. What is it?'"
- Gladys Knight, BlackLDS.org

"But I would never steal anyone's boyfriend. It's bad karma, and I'm a big believer in karma—hence the fact that I've studied kabbalah. I'm very true to the "Treat people the way you want to be treated" sort of thing."
- Lindsay Lohan, Elle, September 2006

“The thought of eternal life appeals to me."
- Madonna, Elle

“I hope by the time it's my moment to leave this world physically, I'll have gotten my head around the idea that life is an endless cycle.”
- Madonna, Elle

"God comes first. Paradise is not cheap."
- Hakeem Olajuwon, Beliefnet

"Were it not for Scientology, I would either be completely insane or dead by now."
- Lisa Marie Presley, ABCNews.com

"I think we all have a little voice inside us that will guide us. It may be God, I don't know. But I think that if we shut out all the noise and clutter from our lives and listen to that voice, it will tell us the right thing to do. The Unitarian believes that God is good, and believes that God believes that man is good. Inherently. The Unitarian God is not a God of vengeance. And that is something I can appreciate."
- Christopher Reeve, Reader's Digest, October 2004

"I read the Kabbalah books and I meditate on them ... They are all in Hebrew. I don't understand everything. But it's kind of OK that you don't. ... Kevin isn't into it as intensely as I am. For some reason I'm thirsting for it."
- Britney Spears, Elle, October 2005

"I'm just trying to say, The way school need teachers / The way Kathie Lee needed Regis / That's the way y'all need Jesus / So here go my single, dog / Radio needs this."
- Kanye West, "Jesus Walks" single, September 2004

Posted by: YEAL9 | February 20, 2010 9:12 AM
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Uh... Do Born Agains have two belly buttons?

Posted by: tojby_2000 | February 20, 2010 12:29 PM
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There is no evidence that Jesus was gay.

Posted by: DaveL5 | February 20, 2010 10:33 PM
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"Beauty is mysterious as well as terrible. God and devil are fighting there, and the battlefield is the heart of man.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Deprived of meaningful work, men and women lose their reason for existence; they go stark, raving mad.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Happiness does not lie in happiness, but in the achievement of it.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

If there is no God, everything is permitted.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

If you were to destroy the belief in immortality in mankind, not only love but every living force on which the continuation of all life in the world depended, would dry up at once.
Fyodor Dostoevsky


It seems, in fact, as though the second half of a man's life is made up of nothing, but the habits he has accumulated during the first half.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Man is fond of counting his troubles, but he does not count his joys. If he counted them up as he ought to, he would see that every lot has enough happiness provided for it.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Man only likes to count his troubles, but he does not count his joys.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Man, so long as he remains free, has no more constant and agonizing anxiety than find as quickly as possible someone to worship.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Men do not accept their prophets and slay them, but they love their martyrs and worship those whom they have tortured to death.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Much unhappiness has come into the world because of bewilderment and things left unsaid.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

One can know a man from his laugh, and if you like a man's laugh before you know anything of him, you may confidently say that he is a good man.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Power is given only to those who dare to lower themselves and pick it up. Only one thing matters, one thing; to be able to dare!
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Realists do not fear the results of their study.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

Sarcasm: the last refuge of modest and chaste-souled people when the privacy of their soul is coarsely and intrusively invaded.
Fyodor Dostoevsky


The formula 'Two and two make five' is not without its attractions.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

The greatest happiness is to know the source of unhappiness.
Fyodor Dostoevsky "

The soul is healed by being with children.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

There are things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

There is no subject so old that something new cannot be said about it.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

To live without Hope is to Cease to live.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

To love someone means to see him as God intended him.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

We sometimes encounter people, even perfect strangers, who begin to interest us at first sight, somehow suddenly, all at once, before a word has been spoken.
Fyodor Dostoevsky "


Posted by: YEAL9 | February 21, 2010 12:04 AM
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You Huckabee gay bashers still can not explain the gay couple to the right of Jesus in "The Last Supper" Johnfitz Peter and Peterfitz John?

Posted by: coloradodog | February 21, 2010 9:40 AM
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