Obama's America, From 'A Christian'

Dobson certainly plays to a large audience, and a raft of Dobson dopplegangers are sprinkled in churches throughout the country. Too many Christians don't want to examine their beliefs: they want to be told in set of unassailable black-and-white rules that there is no leeway, that they, and only they, are correct. I fear the day when the term "thinking Chriatian" becomes an oxymoron.

Joesph Goebbels would have been proud of Dobson's vile letter.

Wow. That's really pretty awful. One thing I've particularly enjoyed about my Roman Catholic parish is that the friars (it's a Franciscan parish) studiously stay above the fray of transient politics. The issues matter; the politicians do not, and nobody's pretending that any of these politicians represent the fullness of Christian morality. In fact, that's one of my favorite things about the Roman Catholic Church in general: the extent to which it recognizes itself as timeless and both above and outside partisanship. Of course, it doesn't always shake out that way in practical week-to-week ministering, but I'm certainly glad no Catholic priest I've ever heard of has dared to publish something as rabidly partisan and manipulative as this garbage from Dobson.

Thanks for the link. Interesting read, confirming what we all knew - Dobson is a poor propagandist because he cannot help but lie. What's scary is that some people will believe this and they are allowed to vote and raise kids.

The first thing liberals do when they get in power is take away your freedoms?? I guess that explains why all the pro-life supporters are voting for the candidate most likely to continue sending our young adults to Iraq to kill and be killed.

The Christian/evangelical factions seem to have lost their way. Far too much hate, no compassion in sight, bears no relation to any teaching of Jesus Christ, who was way more liberal than Dobson, too.

At what point do people look at what Dobson's saying and realize that it's bull $h!t?

I mean seriously, there are people out there without the critical thinking skills to recognize that this is so far beyond reality that it questions Dr. Dobson's ability to refrain from bearing false witness?

When does it become obvious that Dobson's rantings have little (if nothing) to do with Christianity and everything to do with partisan politics?

James Dobson is an idiot, plain and simple. This is exactly the type of jesus-driven fear-mongering that makes atheists look at the religious faithful as being slightly retarded.

Why do we even care what some jesus lover thinks about politics? When a person chooses to govern his or her life by strict adherence to some delusional fantasy like the jesus myth, that person has basically announced that they have checked their intelligence and powers of reasoning and rational thought at the door. And when a person's world view is indelibly tainted by unwavering belief in a fantasy world of silly superstitions, they have pretty much ceded any claims to credibility that they might have otherwise had here on earth. So why would anyone listen?

I swear, I just don't get the hold that religion has over such a large group of the american people. It's almost like they are so desperate to be subjugated - by the church, by god, by the republican party - that they will believe anything.

The church and the GOP share one strategy, though: "Keep 'em afraid and ignorant, and they will keep coming back for 'protection'..."

Any belief system that does not permit (and cannot survive) critical scrutiny and analysis is not worthy of protection, preservation or respect.

It's interesting to note that one of the few interviews Sarah Palin has condescended to grant since her selection has been with these goofballs.

One more thing: In my experience, when someone like Dobson spends as much time as he does focusing on one issue - i.e., his fears of rampant homosexuality - it is usually because he is a deeply closeted homosexual who is mortally terrified of being "found out".

The more Dobson articulates his fears of homosexuality, the more certain I am that he secretly years for a little man lovin' on the side. Airport bathroom stall, maybe?

Then again, this freakshow claims to have discussions with god, so he may also be a paranoid schizophrenic...

In any event, "Methinks the preacher doth protest too much..."

Dr. Dobson is said to have advised fathers to bathe with their male children that they can marvel at the relative size of the father's penis and thereafter will supplicate themselves to the dominance and authority of the father.

If that's true, that makes him a sicko. Pure and simple. This letter is yet another telltale symptom of his grandeurish delusions.

A couple of things from a self described Evangelical Christian - James Dobson and his outfit are political hacks and ARE NOT Christian's at all. They are a pseudo-christian cult, at best, and mislead millions of people. My personal view is that Dobson is a tool of Satan that sold his soul for money and power. Anyone having anything to do with him or his nutty group has done more harm to faith and to Christ's teachings and the church than anything I have ever witnessed. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to open a newspaper the coming months and find that he was caught in some sort of sexual scandal or business fraud.

Dobson appears to be genuinely delusional and paranoid. His fear of homosexuality is extraordinarily irrational.

He is quite fixated on the issue.

One of the most frightening things I see in modern America is the trend of complaining about "attacks on Christianity" from such groups as Focus on the Family.

I'm a Christian who happens to disagree vehemently with the claim of Christianity being under attack. The only thing under attack is cultural Christianity, but nowhere have I seen the real message of Christ coming under attack.

And that's the problem...mainstream Christianity in this country barely resembles the true message of Christ. One of the reasons non-believers (and quite a few Christians) are so adamantly opposed to people like Dobson is that the thrust of his message bears little resemblance to a message that preaches "loving one another as God loves us, treating your neighbor as you wish to be treated, forgiving so that you may be forgiven, and showing mercy so that you may be shown mercy." Please show me in Dobson's message where this message of Christ is in play. It's nowhere to be found. So it's not really Christianity that's under attack, it's a horribly twisted corruption of it that's under attack...and well it should be.

One thing that's always surprised me is that even non-believers tend to know what Christ stood for and what He preached...and when they don't see so-called Christians living up to those standards themselves, they have every right to cry foul. One of the most instructive passages in the New Testament is Christ's admonition to not point out someone else's sin while ignoring your own. To wag our fingers while ignoring our own transgressions is a demonstration of spiritual blindness, not enlightenment.

I do agree with one single point of Dobson's, but again disagree with how he attacks the problem. There is a definite collapse of the family and its function, and it's something we should all work to preserve, believers of otherwise. But Dobson ignores the real issue of the collapse of marriage and family values. According to a recent Barna poll, evangelical Christians have one of the highest divorce rates in the country (25%), and that's a sin that Christ actually spoke about in detail, while never mentioning homosexuality. Yet Dobson and his gang quietly downplay this glaring "sin" of divorce since it applies to millions of heterosexual couples, and instead attack homosexuals as a prime reason for the breakdown of traditional marriage and family values. What hypocrisy!

Until so-called Christians start living like Christians and actually following Christ's commandments delivered in the New Testament, I think we'll continue to see these groups complain about "attacks on Christianity." But as long as they cling to Old Testament legalism to compare themselves to others (something Christ condemned the Pharisees for), I doubt anything will change. I think they find it much more convenient to see themselves as suffering martyrs, while burying their heads in the sand and refusing to see the extent of their own hypocrisy.

Solomon Heriger
http://sheriger-codex.blogspot.com

The "A" stands for a*shole.
Dobson hijacked Jesus for self-glory, greed, power and this hateful political agenda. He is now less of a threat to American freedom than Muslim extremists.

May God forgive him for he knows damn well what he does.

uberrationalist said:

"Dobson appears to be genuinely delusional and paranoid. His fear of homosexuality is extraordinarily irrational.

He is quite fixated on the issue."

Yes, that's so true. And so often, it seems, these are the people who are later found to be the very thing they despised. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find Dobson caught in a homosexual encounter within the next decade.

Well, there are many who have made such lame predictions. The problem with predictions is that when they do not turn out to be true people still have the letter in their hands, and you look like a goof.

Pat Robertson has made himself look so goofy by making predictions, and invoking God's power with no result, that he's ignored by those who use to listen to him for religious guidance in their daily lives. Many have proclaimed the end of the world on a certain date and when it did not happen were ignored by their once enthrawled followers. Dobson is just the latest in a long line of religious soothsayers.

Dobson has taken himself over the edge and has likewise sealed his fate. In 2012 when things are better (really, can they get any worse?), and he makes another prediction about 2016, that letter about 2012 will dog him. His self described purity and invincibility will be exposed as just bluster. The letter will resurface and people will laugh at the thought of anyone taking Donson seriously in 2008, much less 2012. Dobson will join the ranks of other religious pretenders who thought themselves to be holier than thou only to have their own mouths send them into obscurity.

By thinking he alone knows what was best for America and predicting dire consequences for not doing as he says, he becomes the town laughing stock standing in the town square with a "REPENT, The End Is Near" sign around his neck. Dobson's downfall starts today and he only has himself to blame.

If one really wants to see dobdork in action, or at least his little gulag, watch the excellent documentary "For the Bible Tells Me So". Watch how he treats a family who loves their gay son and who only wanted to deliver a letter to him. Dobdork didn't even have the manners to step outside his fortress, but had the family ARRESTED for setting foot on his pwecious widdle "focus" castle grounds.

Like so many "political Christians", Rev. Dobson seems a little too focused on the City of Man to be a truly healthy Christian.

I live north of Denver and I have many friends in Colorado Springs (aka "DobsonLand"). There is a very popular bumper sticker down there that reads "Focus On Your Own Damn Family"...

I just want to thank James Dobson for all he has done for me recently. I've been having trouble coming up with an original current-events themed Halloween costume, and I think he's just solved that problem for me. There is nothing scarier that I can think of than going as James Dobson.

outlawtorn103,

Hey, great idea! But get together a bunch of friends, and you can dress up as Dobson, someone else as Robertson, another as Falwell... and, by damn, you will have the entire neighborhood fleeing in abject terror! Take videos, please!

Point #1: Christians who would "enjoy" this prediction would definitely be expecting "Rapture" in their lifetime, with Obama or the Democratic Party as the anti-christ, so they will eat this up!

Point #2: I could easily write a similar letter given a fundamentalist christian President the likes of Dobson, espousing a 2012 with homosexuals imprisoned or worse, geology and anthropology overturned in favor of a 6000 year universe in all schools and universities, harrassment of non-christians to the point of "religious-cleansing", requirements to carry a gun along side of a bible, and endless TV replays of "The Ten Commandments" in primetime.

to sheriger:

For this but also for your entire post.

"But Dobson ignores the real issue of the collapse of marriage and family values. According to a recent Barna poll, evangelical Christians have one of the highest divorce rates in the country (25%), and that's a sin that Christ actually spoke about in detail, while never mentioning homosexuality."

We need more true Christians to speak out against the charlatans that claim to speak for Christianity while ignoring all of the teachings of Jesus.

Wow! I didn't think anything could top Jerry Falwell's rant after 9-11.

It's my sincere wish that Ryan Dobson come out of the closet, declare "God is dead" and sacrifice a family pet to Satan.

Dobson. His mouth reminds me of a garbage disposal in reverse. To those who support this man's wickedness, you can't ignore the fact that he's lost his mind. Really. This guy should be in a padded room.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha - he's on your side not ours. Ha ha ha ha ha ha....

Years ago, I thought James Dobson was on to something with his focus on the family. As time has gone on, Dobson has settled into an extreme view of Christianity. However, many fellow Christians still follow Dobson because of past respect for the man. Dobson has taken a cadre of people with him from moderate to extreme right in gradual steps. It is like putting a frog in a kettle to warm water and then gradually heating it up until the frog is cooked. It never knew what happened.

Dobson and others have become the hypocrites that Jesus scolded. They no longer preach God's love but have become a purveyor of God's judgment. I saw this attitude outside an Obama rally Wednesday night when five Bible thumpers were preaching hell fire and brimstone and never mentioned God's love. They preached a Jesus of judgment and not a Jesus who loves people. Hence the reason why the founding fathers favored a separation of church and state. We see the perils of too close a relaitonship.

McCain is spewing out fear and encouraging hatred for fellow citizens to advance the Republican cause. The McCain campaign has gotten so nasty that I fear for our country regardless of what happens at the polls on Tuesday.

Does this guy even defend any of the accusations. I have heard what Obama has said and these seems accurate possibilities. Now I hope they don't happen but they have come pretty close before.

If you are going to make fun of the column at least come up with one good rebut of what was said. Nothing in the column is beyond reasonable with a liberal like Obama.

Dobson makes John Hagee look like Thomas Aquinas.

Dobson's obsession with gay-bashing in the name of Jesus has nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with wedge politics of hate and fear to:

1. Get ratings for his radio show and for self-glory by exploiting a titillating issue.

2. To overcompensate for his classic psychological symptoms of rage over his own closeted homosexuality.

One needs only look a few miles down the road in white supremacist, neochristian Colorado Springs where Haggard did the same thing for evidence of the latter.

i think that the good DR "doth protest too much" about being "gay".

Perhaps there is a hidden truth there that will come to light some day!

It's ironic to me the number of people posting comments who are so quick to remind us of Christ's commandment to love thy neighbor, yet who apparently have no love for Mr. Dobson.

Rather than judge or condemn Mr. Dobson, we should all pray for him.

Hmm.. Seems to me that the statement, "...many of our freedoms have been taken away..." could be from a letter from 2008 in Bush's America. I am always puzzled by the way Christians don't seem to mind this. And for guys like Dobson the only problem with the Taliban is that they're doing it wrong..

Mr.Dobson is a closeted queer! I am a gay man and there is no doubt the man's fear and loathing of gay people is based on him being unable to cope with his homosexuality. There are many in the Christian community that cannot deal with their sexuality, having been raised and taught to hate the so called "evils" of homosexuality. He's a sad and pathetic man who will go to his grave hating himself. I doubt he will ever realize the hurt, and pain he has afflicted on thousands of Americans. I don't hate him, I feel very sorry for him and those that believe in him.

Dobson claims to know the cosmic mind. Ummm.
I think he's like most of us, he has only second hand knowledge; which is what he's read, been taught or imagines. If he had 1st hand knowledge, I believe he'd be humbled into silence.

Wow, this thread is awesome. Finally, people can come out and speak out about this fake minister, and the future downfall of the republican/conservative tactics.

Believe me, I have stepped on some toes where I live (republican country). Apparently, it was offensive when I said I had changed my voter registration from gop to dem. Further enraging some by saying, I no longer recognized the republican party, and that I am no longer christian nor atheist;

I followed up with saying that with the way things have went the past 8 years, the recent campaign of McCain-Palin spewing so much hatred, divide-conquer...I am just fed up.

Personally, I feel that Bill Ayers should bring a lawsuit against McCain-Palin for:
1) invasion of privacy - this man has reestablished himself, becoming a local prominent college professor. Now, his face is plastered on the national news for something that has happened 40 years ago. Not, to mention the unwanted/unwarranted examination of his entire life by the campaign and the media.

2)defamation/slander - for using his name at campaign rallies, with newscasters/journalists. This could bring shame, bad attention to him and/or family. Could also damage his reputation and/or the college.
***Bill Ayers is not running for public office.

Any and everything about the republicans is not for me anymore. I will never look back.

I am voting Obama

"many of our freedoms have been taken away"

Freedoms.... huh. Like this one?
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

we can only predict the future but since wapo and the msm decided to give obama a pass on who he is...we will just have to see...lets hope wapo isn't wrong because the first right to go is the freedom of the press...socialists used to execute journalists, didn't they...

I hope Obama wins so people can see and experience first hand the STUPIDITY of Democrats.

The oil crisis (due to their "green" laws), abortion, gay marriage, mortgage crisis are all their making.

If these are not enough, the Democrats will drag us into WW3.

You don't believe me? Just wait. It won't take that long.

Conservative Christians should make another organization replacing Boys Scout. CHRISTIAN SCOUT seem to be a nice name that would rival the Boy/Gay Scout.

"Now in October of 2012," says the letter...

Missiles will start raining down on America for adopting the doctrines of Satan. God will burn it.

I don't understand how people can let these Mega-Churches run and ruin their lives.

Example, people give these churches thousands of dollars - only to find they have been duped.

why not set limits for these churches - just like the campaigns.

Another example - one of my children was joining the Mormon Church- I found out later that in order to go on missions, they have to pay their own way. But, here's the kicker, the properties are owned by the church, so in essence, the missioner is paying to stay. Oh, the church verifies the funds before you can stay.

People wake up - look back at your history books, you can't buy blessings, nor can you buy repentence.

Look at your minister closely, is he a reformed drug addict, convicted felon, a con-artist. Compare his/her lifestyle to yours. Examine your SELF-ESTEEM, some will prey on your weakness. Also, look back at these cult leaders - for instance Jim Jones, remember the poisoned kool-aid in Guyana, are you that weak-minded that you can't think for yourself.

In case your wondering, no I am not atheist, nor am I christian, or muslim, or whatever, I am just a human being who have lost faith in my religious beliefs thanks to the republicans and religious figures like Dobson whose personal agenda is to control the purse strings and minds of most Americans.

how can the author of such a letter call them self a Christian... Jesus would be disgraced by such hate

spidermean2:
You've always been too much of a coward to respond to a replay but - seriously. Go self-rapture. You've been creaming your jeans for armageddon your entire time on the WaPo boards so don't think you can fool anyone into thinking you're legitimately worried about "missiles raining down". Psycho.

It's heartening to see so many people to see Dobson for the con-man he is. Some of the most successful cons through history involve someone wearing the vestments and BDo is one who didn't want just money, he wanted influence.

The Bible is pretty clear that the Christ took a pretty dim view of bearing false witness. If you buy into this fabrication, you have committed yourself to an eternity in the lake of fire. Enjoy your Hell. I'll be having a hearty laugh at your expense.

If you think it fantasy, look at Britain's and Canada's restrictions on free speech and the actions of "Human Rights Commissions." And the truly Catholic adoption agencies in Massachusetts ARE now out of business because that state now requires even religious adoption agencies to place children with homosexuals and lesbians.

Washposh18 wrote "don't think you can fool anyone into thinking you're legitimately worried about "missiles raining down". "

I keep on saying it so people would understand why God will allow the missiles to rain down. Now is the chance to turn it around by NOT voting for a VERY LIBERAL president-to-be. The choice is ours. This election is about ELECTING BETWEEN GOD'S SEVERITY AND GOODNESS. It seems that America is CHOOSING SEVERITY. It's not God's will nor my will that America will be bombed. You guys are doing it for yourselves.

"Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, SEVERITY; but toward thee, GOODNESS, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be CUT OFF. (Romans 11:22)

In Sweden, a preacher is spending time in jail for preaching the Romans 1:27.

The televangelist's commandments (with notes):

ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.'
- not him, ME as I have a cable channel

TWO: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.'
- I am the lord, ergo statues of me are fine

THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'
- I am the lord (see 1), so I am beyond reproach

FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'
- absolutely, how else can watch all of my 8 hour sunday broacast

FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.'

SIX: 'You shall not murder.'
- unless I say you can, rule 1 is a royal flush to rule 6's full house

SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery.'
- but I can

EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.'
- Too right. Donations can be made online or by mail

NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'
- irrelevant, because I am in fact god (see 1) I know all and thus cannot lie

TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'
- verliy, but sharing your wife with me all good (see 7).

As a Christian the only thing I can say to James Dobson after reading his personal diatribe against jesus Christ in "letter FROM 2012 IN OBAMA'S AMERICA". "The fornicators and liars are on the outside" as Revelations, aptly describes Dobson and his followers. The vitriol and hate that emanates from all the orifices of this satanic creature, Dobson, beats anything I have heard, from Satans other children, Hitler, Stalin and read of Torquemada and other filthy things, in my 84 years. Why? Why? Why? And what is truly frightening is that this Dobson thing does have followers who live on the sins he spews out. Yes you Dobsonite things when the ,End of Times, happens you and your leader Dobson will go home to your natural father, Satan. Now all of you Dobsonite things stand up and scream apopolectally and vomit all over each other about how I am going to go to Hell. What a sickening thought, my having to associate with all of you things when I die. I sure will be watching my P's and Q's.

Obama is not yet president and already there's trade friction between him and the South Koreans already.

The Dems would push us closer to another trouble. Idiots don't learn, do they?

A vote for the Dems is a vote for idiocy.

Spidey's back! Lock and load! $5000 bounty offered! (Zimbabwe currency - that's all he's worth).

God will send nukes upon America, huh? If you believe that, boy, have I got a deal for you on a certain historical bridge in the NYC area. No checks please, cash only.

Wow, it sounds like a future world run by the leftist Washington Post. I'm voting for Obama because I truly think that he's both progressively minded but at heart a moderate. That's what the country needs right now... not cultural marxism.

LOL, reading spidermean2 is the exact reason why I left the church. Is he really Warren Jeffs in disguise?

Now that I have complete control over my own actions, thoughts, life - and see how a friend of mine had a nervous breakdown behind this christian lifestyle.

I can yell to the top of my lungs, "THANK GOD ALMIGHT, FREE AT LAST."

I have seen too many people using prayer instead of medicine and have died!

Maybe Spidermean2 should read Plato's Republic then read the bible.

You know, the most sickening thing about that letter us that we live in a nation that constitutionally guarantees freedom of religious expression for all of it's citizens. And that means, that we have to allow cretins like him to write such unmitigated excrescence. The people that he is writing to are kept ignorant through their churches policy of restricting information through home schooling. Most of them do not even comprehend the freedoms they enjoy or the price that must be paid to keep them.

"I have seen too many people using prayer instead of medicine and have died! "

Maybe they prayed to the wrong God as you did when you were, as you claim, once "religious".
In the near future , you'll be seeing whole cities burn because they thought they were worshipping the true God. And no medicine will save them.

spidermean2 sez: "It's not God's will nor my will that America will be bombed. You guys are doing it for yourselves."

So you have no dog in this race since you're not an American? Why do you care then?

"Now is the chance to turn it around by NOT voting for a VERY LIBERAL"

You do know Jesus was a liberal activist, yes?

"Did God reject his people? By no means! " Romans 11:1

JohnS8 wrote " You know, the most sickening thing about that letter us that we live in a nation that constitutionally guarantees freedom of religious expression for all of it's citizens."

There's a country which fits exactly to your liking. NORTH KOREA.

washpost18, there are two Americans. The fake and the real. Bombs will be raining down on the fake Americans, the very liberal blue states which are very keen on changing our constitution directly opposite to what the founding fathers established.

Fake America is doomed and the real America will be left to rule the world.

spidermean2 sez: "There's a country which fits exactly to your liking. NORTH KOREA."

And there's one that suits you perfectly - IRAQ! Now go catch a missile.

Why all the bleating about Dobson missing the "real message" of Jesus? Like Messiah, like disciple I say. Dobson knows his Lord only too well. Jesus was the paradigm cult leader, characterised by visionary mania, contrarian paranoia, miracle gimmickry, emotional manipulation, swinging suddenly from blessing to hellfire, and trading in the illusory certainties of polarising rhetoric - sheep/goats, saved/damned, inside/outside - placing his own personality at the centre of the universe. Like his latter day acolyte Dobson, Jesus made a deluded political lunge - a table-turning tantrum in the Temple - and we all know how that ended. Like Jesus, Dobson has his blind followers who will continue to find him worthy of reverence despite all contrary evidence, and believe all manner of positive untruths about him. I wonder how they will resurrect him, once he is hoist on his own petard; what pesher-enhanced Chinese whispers will aid his apotheosis? Yes, Dobson is only too Christlike. Would that he were merely humane.

spidermean2: Last I checked, missiles, bombs, grenades, landmines and bullets, all creations of Man not God, were pretty indiscriminate in who or what they affected.

Last I checked, the Constitution was pretty clear on the "...shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" bit as well so any defenses, created by Man to protect against Man, are also pretty indiscriminate in who or what they protect.

How's that missile catching going? Try using the teeth - I've always loved that trick.

Washpost18 wrote "And there's one that suits you perfectly - IRAQ! Now go catch a missile."

It's not gonna happen coz we dismantled Saddam's missiles already. We make the world less dangerous while you liberals make it more dangerous.

In fact the Dems plan to cut the Defense Budget by 25%. SEE THE STUPIDITY YOUR PARTY DOES?

spidermean2: Yes, Saddam's missiles were dismantled last century. Please do try to keep up. The missiles that have been falling *this* century are good old 100% American iron!

"In fact the Dems plan to cut the Defense Budget by 25%."

In fact the majority of the BRAC efforts closing bases have taken place under Republican administrations. In fact you have no proof of your claim of 25% budget reduction. SEE THE STUPIDITY YOUR OPINION REVEALS?

BTW Jesus was a pacifist; why would you decry the reduction of funding to that taxpayer expenditure specifically tasked with non-pacifist activities? Is this another manifestation of your death-cult sympathies?

Obama’s friend William Ayers dedicated his Underground Weathermen terrorist group Manifesto- ‘Prairie Fire’ to Sirhan Sirhan- who assassinated Robert Kennedy.

Obama has a lot to explain. He knew or should have known!

I wonder what the Kennedy clan thinks of this now!

The LA Times has a duty to release the tape of Obama and his terrorist pals!

Hey, spidermean2, on this choice cruton in your piles of bile:

"there are two Americans. The fake and the real."

You are definitely one of the former. I wonder whose payroll you're actually on - your drivel is so carefully artless.

Can someone who thinks James Dobson is a hater explain to me this. Why did Jesus walk into the temple and overturn tables and drive out the money changers and shop keepers? Why did he call people 'white washed tombs' and 'brood of vipers'?

Where do you find this touchy-feely Jesus that only does nice things to people.

"Rep. Barney Frank’s (D-Mass.) is pushing to cut defense spending by 25 percent. He believes that the turmoil in the financial markets means that Congress needs to spend more in other areas and less on weapons system programs."

It's there in the news. And you know what?. With Obama leaning to the LEFT, I think he is very open to that idea. NO WONDER America will be vulnerable in the future to missile attacks. The Dems won't spend a dime to shield their liberal states. Blame it to yourselves, liberal folks. You guys are stupid enough to think that it's NOT needed.

KERT1 Jesus overturned tables because the priest had turned the temple into a market place...similar to Dobson, Robertson, et al turning Christianity into a market place where racism and homophobia is sold.

WWJD? He'd vote for Obama and against Prop. 8

Kert1, I address this very point below in my post of 10:02 pm. Yes, Dobson could be termed a "hater", as could Christ himself. Certainly, Christ's god, Yahweh, is a hater - Esau felt the brunt of that, not to mention all those Sinai calf-worshippers, and residents of Jericho and Hazor. Hell, Yahweh even hated Israel itself for a lot of the time, and loved it too, smiting it and weeping over it just like an abusive husband. Of course, those who revere this deity will construe such divine hatreds as merely a sub-species of divine love, of the God-loves-you-so-much-he-made-Hell-to-save-you-from variety.

"Rep. Barney Frank’s.." Barney Frank's what? Ah - homeschooled, aren't you?

Barney Frank is one of 435 House representatives and your delusion leads you to think he speaks for all liberals?

Odd though, he supported your good buddy and soul-mate Fred Phelps' right to protest at military funerals. Sounds like someone who understands what the Founding Fathers intended when they wrote the Constitution upon which this country is founded.

You're pretty much a lost cause, aren't you?

Frank Barney won't push that bill if he thinks it is not popular among his fellow liberal democrats, don't you think?

Frank was "one of three House Representatives" to vote against the bill that shut Phelps up, based on Frank's opinion that the sanctity of the 1st Amendment was more important that silencing a death-cult promoter like your bud Fred Phelps.

One of three, opposed by 432 peers, so yeah, I think he's demonstrated his Maverick tendencies to a degree that should meet even your standards.

Wow, Spidermean2, you are definitely a piece of work.

BTW, you WILL NOT be one to rule the world. You are, indeed, a toy soldier, so continue your lockstep. Oh, foot first.

KERT1: Jesus overturned the tables in the temple courtyard because the moneychangers were exploiting the law in order to cheat the poor (not because it had become a marketplace). The law required that pilgrims bring to the temple an unblemished animal for sacrifice. Those who came from a long distance had a hard time keeping an animal perfect, so they welcomed the chance to buy an approved animal when they arrived. However, they couldn't purchase the animal with the Roman money they carried because it was tainted. They had to exchange their Roman coins for "clean" temple coins. Here's where the problem came: the moneychangers charged an exorbitant exchange rate, cheating and exploiting everyone, but Jesus was concerned about those who were poor. Likewise, he reserved his vitriol for the religious authorities who were more concerned with following the letter of the law in order to secure their own well-being than they were about the law's clear concern for justice for the poor and oppressed. Basically, the wealthy and privileged cared nothing for the poor and the outcast, a situation that always draws God's wrath.

The point is, the leftist mind, like Obama , is always attracted to cutting the Defense Budget to suit their socialist agenda.

There could be many who will support Barney this time. Afterall, I think Obama is on his side on this issue.

spidermean2: Now just a cotton-pickin' minute; your point previously was something about wanting to create a new Gay Boy Scouts (you perv, you) while wanting "missiles to rain down" on America (wow you are a Freudian wet-dream there, boy), meanwhile accusing all liberals, who are somehow supposed to all squeeze themselves into the body of Barney Frank, of cutting the defense budget by 25% AND at the same time leading us into WW3.

Meds. Get them for yourself. Now.

spidermean2,

Sounds like you're one of the control freaks that have hijacked religion.

This is the U.S., freedom of speech, freedom of religion.

Don't be a hater because people choose not to think like you.

Relax, and go take your tranquilizers. You need to calm down before the psychiatrist lock you up for being a danger to yourself and/or others!!!

JOSEPHKEN - tangent to your tangent: Regarding the fracas in the Temple courts - the exorbitant exchange rates applied not just to the purchase of sacrificial victims, but to payment of the annual Temple tax of half a shekel of silver. The only coinage accepted by the Temple was that minted in Tyre, widely respected for the purity of its silver. Pilgrims to the Temple had to convert their cash into Tyrian half-shekels and shekels, and the exchange rate was apparently not a fair 1:1 as it should have been. Ironically, this approved "clean" silver was stamped with an image of Tyre's deity Melqart, who was a dying-rising god of the sort abominated by Yahwists. The same sort of coinage was probably used to pay Judas his "30 pieces of silver", as he set in motion the sequence of events that would make Jesus himself a dying-rising god. Irony upon irony...

Whoa,

let me back up. I for some reason, I forgot, so-called christians are hard to reason with.

I forgot in my prior post responding to Spidermean2, that they have a one-track mind.

I will stop here, because I already know, Spidermean2 is going to tell me I am going to hell.

Oh, I'm soooo afraid.

Psych - just kidding,LOL

annjell: If you are a practicing Christian, many thanks for speaking out against the death-cult that has infested the religion. The Robertsons/Dobsons/Perkins/Donohues of the Christian world, who have appointed themselves the theological leaders of America, need to be spoken out against as frequently and as vocally as possible.

My only contrary statement to you would be that freedom of religion is inclusive of freedom from religion. America is, from first principles, a secular nation that affords respect to religion, not a religious nation that tolerates the secular.

Washpost18, it is called READING INCOMPREHENTION.

It's your leftist flock who wants adult gays to be allowed to sleep with boy scouts. It's your flock who are cutting down the defense budget on missile defense shield program. And it's your flock who are driving this country towards WW3.

You want proof? Read Dobson's letter 4 years from now just before Obama finishes his term.

Washpost18, it is called READING INCOMPREHENSION.

It's your leftist flock who wants adult gays to be allowed to sleep with boy scouts. It's your flock who are cutting down the defense budget on missile defense shield program. And it's your flock who are driving this country towards WW3.

You want proof? Read Dobson's letter 4 years from now just before Obama finishes his term.

spidermean2: no, must be WRITING INCOMPREHENSION on your part 'cause, hey, you said those things not me or any other liberal identifier that I've run across.

Do you understand the concept of fiction? It's like a lie, but for entertainment or manipulative purposes. Obviously you missed it but Dobson's "letter" falls into the latter category, unless, oh my God he's got the Satanic powers of being able to tell the future! Burn him! And you! You support him and spread his Satanic gospel! GET THEE BEHIND ME!!!

Thanks Washpost18.

People like Spidermean2 just don't get it. He's a reason most people won't answer the door for Jehova Witnesses & Mormon missionaries. Most of all, he is probably one of the reasons prayer has been taken out of schools.

Imagine someone like him preaching to children!

Another point I'd like to make, he keep blaming liberals for the gays. At least they are out of the closet.

The republicans like to hide their homosexuality. Did Mark Foley think he could get away with trying to have affairs with young guys with internships at the whitehouse?

My thing is, everyone is responsible for their own actions. No, I don't believe in gay relationships, but, it's none of my business, and surely not my place to try and make people to conform to my way of thinking.

Washpost18, do you understand the paragraph below? How old are you by the way? 18?

"The Boy Scouts no longer exist as an organization. They chose to disband rather than be forced to obey the Supreme Court decision that they would have to hire homosexual scoutmasters and allow them to sleep in tents with young boys."

Great, next, the LDS should be forced to stop having sex with young girls, and forcing young girls to marry 30-60-year-old-men.

How are they any different than the Taliban?

spidermean2: So you're claiming the Boy Scouts of America no longer exist? HAHAHAHAHAHA! http://www.scouting.org/ must be a spammer then.

No cupcake, I'm significantly older than 18, although a 12 year old could pick apart your paranoid arguments faster than you can manufacture them.

Reality is really pretty cool - you should check it out the next time you're in it's vicinity.

Hehehehehe - thinks a fictional letter from "4 y ears in the future" is a documentary. Priceless! Thanks for the laugh Chuckles.

annjess: "My thing is, everyone is responsible for their own actions. ..."

Exactly, and probably most accurately demonstrates the hypocrisy of both the current GOP and the Xtian Taliban represented here so faithfully by spidermean2.

Everything is always someone else's fault, or it was god's will. Never demonstrating a willingness to man-up and accept their personal contribution to a less-than-favorable situation but instead living the hubris that they personally are perfect, a state of existence that only God is supposed to be capable of.

Washpost18,the paragraph means that if Obama becomes president, he will fill the Supreme Court with liberal judges who then would rule that it's unconstitional to disallow gays to sleep with boy scouts. Parents would then disallow their kids to join the Boy Scout.

By October, 2012, there will be no more Boy Scouts coz no kid in his right might would be joining it. That is what the paragraph is implying.

Use your brain would you? Why are you leftists so DUMB?

Washpost18,

Yes, I agree 100%.

Now, let me guess. Spidermean2 is hurting inside, he's missing something in his life, whether it be friends that he probably scared off due to his oh-so-religious but spooky behavior. He's probably so grouchy and/or irritating that people hate to see him coming.

Do you think I'm right so far?

annjell: Considering his fixation on things "raining" onto him and sleeping with little boys I'm of the opinion that his problems are far more severe than just not having any friends.

Anjell wrote "Now, let me guess. Spidermean2 is hurting inside, he's missing something in his life,"

Wrong. Hapiness is the Lord. Think about it, guys. This is what the world is missing.

According to surveys, there are far more Democrats who are unhappy with their lives. I knew it even before the survey came out.

According to the prophecy, the whole world in the near future will be at peace and prosperous for a thousand years. And that is after most of the leftist and liberal unbelievers are gone. No more sadness coz the people who espouses IDIOCY are all gone.

Washpost18, I totally agree with you.

However, I can say, he and his ilk should stop trying to force "their" religions down peoples throats.

They are constantly trying to tell people how to live, what to think, what to do.

anjell wrote "However, I can say, he and his ilk should stop trying to force "their" religions down peoples throats."

It's you liberal folks who are pushing your "religious beliefs" like gay marriage and gays should sleep with kids in our constitution.

DON'T CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION AND WE WILL KEEP OUR MOUTH SHUT. VERY SIMPLE.

spidermean2,

That's nonsense. Besides, WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED WITH WHO'S SLEEPING WITH WHO?

How does that concern you?

That's the problem with YOU christians, you don't know how to mind your own business.

It's funny that you mention this, just like all the other ministers of YOUR religion that talk about gays - but are secretly having affairs with gays!!!!

If you don't like it, you can always move to your own utopia!

You and your ilk can start little communities like the pilgrims, LDS, Mormons!!!!

It's time you people stop, STOP, trying to tell people who to have sex with, get yours and be happy.

Last time I checked, this was a free nation. Why are you Right-Wing Nuts trying to take away freedoms that we have? Stop your meddling, and get your own life, affairs in order.

People that are always meddling are usually people who can't manage their own life.

Do You Get It?

Spidermean2,

You have a lot of nerves. For eight years, the American people have sit back and watched YOUR guy, change the wire-tap laws, bankruptcy laws, we've watched victims of natural disasters with horror (like Katrina, Ike, Omar, Rita), election-stealing, refused to accept subpoenas, people lose their jobs/pensions/benefits, must I go on.

But yeah, you can talk all you want, because that's not all we're going to do, we're going to give to country back to the people!!!

Now, you can respond but I am signing off for the night.

You know why, I am happy, and you are a drag on my psyche.

Or, is it Divine Providence delivering us from an evil church/state Empire ? There are other groups warning of the dreaded 12/12/12. I remember the same fear mongers preaching as they were prophets on New Year's Eve of the year 2000. That was another end of the world scenario come and gone, bummer.

The reason we care what Dobson and his ilk do or think, is that what he and his legions of syncophants do, do well, is VOTE. Ask John Kerry who was leading in the polls Nov 3rd 2004 and likely went to bed thinking he would soon be President. I recall Zogby confidently calling the race for him that day, even Tucker Carlson conceeding his likely victory. Let us pray that Obama has successfully appealed to enough of the "old School" pragmatic Republicans to cancel the effect of the Dobson Hordes. They are not all idiots but they are zealots, many of them very intelligent but ironically hell-bent on imposing their Draconian views, somehow rationalised from Christianity, on the rest of society.
Christianity and Islam are at their core religions of peace and tolerance that have been hijacked by these agents of hatred and destruction.
With our planets exploding population and ever shrinking resources and prosperity, I fear that with this trend toward baser insticts, ignorance, isolation and polarisation will continue. If the McClueless twins win, you might as well cue Afrikka Bambatta and John Lydon.

I swear, the more American hate and revile the Taliban and Al Quaeda, the more they become the Taliban and Al Quaeda...

I am thankful that Dr. Dobson still has the freedom to speak and write the truth.

As an outsider, I have never witnesed in a supposed western developed nation such ludicrous irrational fear come from an electrote in my life. Americans should be ashamed, you are ruled by fear.

You are scared as a nation and its pathetic, but worse still, you are scared of yourselves, scared of Obamas marxism or that he's a terrorist or some garbage.

I hope htat you take a good look at yourselves as a nation a re evaluate who you are becuase you are the laughing stock of the world at present.

Spiderman 2:

At what point did the Boy Scouts start letting any adult, gay or strait, to sleep in the same tent with boys? Did they make that change in the rules this past Monday? As of this past weekend, in order to be in the presence of the boys at all there had to be 2 adults present even if it was only 1 child.

This wild and outrageous speculation is just more of the kind of fear mongering that has brought us to the sorry state this nation finds itself in today. You and your friends try to convince others that Obama will take away freedoms while at the same time you would impose your own narrow views on those of us who do not choose (and that IS the most important word here)to believe as you do. I choose to live my life within the law, with kindness and compassion for those around me, but without the confinement and restrictions of religious belief. How I think, what I believe, and what goes on in my home is none of your business and certainly not the business of the government. That is Freedom. Your twisted sense of morality, and the efforts to impose it on others, is the antithesis of Freedom. Live you life as you see fit. Speak your mind if you choose... Worship as you feel you must. That is what the freedoms in this country allow. It also allows me to believe and speak and live as I choose. Any effort to impose your lifestyle or beliefs on me is an attack on those freedoms and I, and many more, will fight you tooth and nail to keep it from happening.

Christians should be able to recognize pharisees, whether in the temple or in print.

A 2012 without Dodson would be a world that is much improved. Hell, on the other hand would be a more dangerous place.

It ain't no thang. Dr. Dobson is probably a closeted gay himself and all this rhetorical rubbish is the projection of his own self loathing.

If you want a good argument against democracy just have a conversation with the average voter.

tom_k47: Yeah. It's a shame that Dobson doesn't choose to exercise the "truth" part of that freedom more frequently.

Dobson is a dysfunctional parasite that feeds on passing the word of Jesus off as a prison. He is the epitome of the "wolf in sheeps clothing".

Dobson again? Will this homophobic caveman just please shut up and go away and take his hate back to Churchland?

Everyone knows that right wing Christians who are so *obsessed* with homosexuality as "Dr." Dobson are projecting. Dollars to donuts James D has a boy toy on the side, like Ted Haggard and all the rest of them.

What a disgusting excuse for a "Christian." Any real Christian would be ashamed of this man. Period.

Obama is a better Christian than Dobson or any of his followers.

When God created Dobson he left out "intelligent design".

but, don't you know that he's only lying for the lord!

spidermean2: "It's you liberal folks who are pushing your "religious beliefs" like gay marriage and gays should sleep with kids in our constitution."

Proof? You have none. Just your deluded sex fantasies. Those "liberal folks" understand the Constitution applies to all Americans. Those conservo religious folk are either too stupid to think for themselves and following the lead of the conmen like Dobson, Donohue, et. al., or they're quietly enjoying the selfish fruits of other people's work and refusing to speak out against the Xtian Taliban you so eloquently represent here.

"DON'T CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION AND WE WILL KEEP OUR MOUTH SHUT. VERY SIMPLE."

Fundies have been trying for years to get the Constitution changed:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040224-2.html

So you, cupcake, are a demonstrated liar. Not that that's any great surprise. The Liars For Jesus brigade have done more to destroy religious tolerance in this country than all the Dawkins and Hutchins of the world combined.

Now take full advantage of your opportunity here to keep one promise in your life and shut up.

It is fascinating to read these comments. This is exactly what Dobson and his ilk thrive on...misleading sick delusional people like Spidey into voting for their fascists, i.e. Bush, McCain et al.

It is pointless, folks, trying to reason with Spidey...this person lives in a world of fear and hate and there's nothing anyone can do for them. After attempting to dialogue with Spidey about previous articles I realized it was a waste of time.

According to the bible:

God is love.

And,

Perfect love casts out fear.

Anyone who uses fear in this manner does not understand the ministry of Jesus Christ or the bible. The monomaniacal focus on worldly material things, including elections, demonstrates that Dobson and those like him are hindering the fruition of the kingdom of God instead of hastening it.

We would do well to heed the words of St. Francis of Assisi who said: Preach the gospel at all times and when necessary use words.

In other words, shut up and get on with compasiionate good works and forgiveness. Otherwise you are wasting the Lord's time and ours.

Lets just take a tip from history, and do onto Dobsons cult as the english did to pilgrems.

My prayer is that by 2012, Dobson will have been worm food for the past 3 1/2 years. Drive a stick through his chest, throw him in the ground, and be done with it.

The dream ticket: Palin - Dobson 2012!

For being straight....Dobson seems to be really obsessed with homosexuality....wonder why that is??????

We've been taught that our country was founded on the principle of religious freedom (among others). But Dobson, and too many others, seem to have forgotten that freedom to believe does not translate into freedom to impose your beliefs on others by government fiat. Some of the more extreme Muslim governments do this, and Dobson is no different.

A lot of the angry, vitriolic partisanship in the current political campaign arises from Dobson's brand of religious hatred and demagoguery. We won't be able to restore our unity or consensus as a nation unless our next President can find a way to put this genie back in its bottle.

WOW! Does ANYONE remember that while this country was founded on the basis of religious freedom, SEPARATION of church and state is also a HUGE Constitutional premise? Anyone and everyone is entitled to his religious beliefs, but NOT to mix and mingle them into our political realm.

It offends me as a non-Christian and as a woman that politicians think they can decide FOR me what to believe and what I can or cannot do with my own body. By doing that they are removing the very freedoms that the Constitution says I'm entitled to as a US-born individual and proud US citizen.

nowhine :
For being straight....Dobson seems to be really obsessed with homosexuality....wonder why that is??????
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He may be in the closet, like a lot of religous zealots.

All of your sick criticisms of Christian's for the sake of getting Obama elected hurts no one but you. We all know what your values are and where your faith has led you and believing that only you are right or that only you have a right to an opinion is truly beyaond words. Very few wish Obama harm yet many wish Palin and McCain harm -- why can't you see how wrong this is? Having an opinion is good and encouraged but to take it to hate is another thing.

For a fellow Christian:

Suggest you read Mathew Ch 14, v15-21. (aka feed of the 5k, loaves and fishes) Then listen to Obama when he spoke to “Sam the whatever” about to sharing.

Then go back to Christ asking “to bring them to me”.

Then picture the growl of John McCain as he states; “he wants to take it from you and spread it around.”

Then in your privacy decide to whom to give your vote and for whom you’d like to pray.

More likely by 2012, the American public will have found out the truth about James Dobson. These so-called Christian preachers who devote their "ministries" to the persecution of homosexuals almost invariably turn out to be closeted gays or borderline heterosexuals with very troubled private lives.

I hope Dobson can find himself a good therapist and discover the truth about himself, and then deal with it in a more constructive way than trying to destroy the lives of 30 million Americans and their families.

I can't believe some of the hateful and violent comments I'm reading in this thread, aiming such ill-will toward someone. It's fine to disagree with someone but when you take it to the next level of wishing harm on that person, does that make you any better?
I applaud those who commented rationally and with respect, whether you agreed with Dobson or not.

I don't necessarily believe in coincidence, but the following two were brought to my attention. Notice the similarities.

Obama and Biden
Osama bin Laden

Obama Nation
Abomination

Dear Mr. Dobson,

Thank you so much for your continued efforts, and the efforts of Focus on the Fascism... er Family, in support of our candidates. Nothing works like demonstrating irrefutably the irrationality, hatred, and cynicism of our opponents, and you do that in spades! We'll be sure to have a big 'thank you' on hand come November 5th!

Love,

The Democrats

Funny, how the reason I take heart in the Christians who disagree is because I think to myself, "Yay, now maybe the world will realize we aren't all hate-filled individualists."

But then I realize my own folly, that this joy in correcting Dobson is really a result of my pride in wanting the world to view Christians a certain way, which will frankly never happen, since we were never promised a rosy path in the Bible and any good in us is from God, and thus a good name for Christians would be misleading.

So perhaps there are Dobsons in the world and Christians are thought of a certain way, but then doesn't that just make any goodness that God lets shine through us even more an example of grace and a beauty to the people around us?

Everyone has the right to believe what they want. Christians do not hate homesexuals, they just don't agree with it morally. I for one don't care what people do in the privacy of their own lives. But I don't agree that we should teach this in school (along with many other things taught in school). I don't agree that it should be pushed politically either. Dobson is not preaching fear - he is teaching a change in political views that discriminates against churches and their beliefs.

I am Christian and a life-long rebuplican who is ashamed. Ashamed of tactics being used by Dobson and Palin. In America you can say what you believe and run your campaign how you want...but when you do run dishonestly, please don't claim to be a Christian. Obama has shown more Christian restraint and forgiveness of these dishorable tactics that many of those attacking him. He'll be a good President.

Yes, it's a theme and it's scary someone would verbalize or write such things as a leader of any church. There may have been validity in the concern as far as adult and children inappropriate action, but as usual, the fear is misplaced. My bigger issue in this is the following, how much of the fear mongering is the believe of Palin? I suspect her thinking goes right along with Dobson's. Now that thought is way beyond scary.

pbhx wrote:

"I don't necessarily believe in coincidence, but the following two were brought to my attention. Notice the similarities.

Obama and Biden
Osama bin Laden

Obama Nation
Abomination"
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ZOMG! They almost RHYME! Thank you, thank you for your contribution to American politics! We might have elected a man whose name ALMOST RHYMES with that of a guy we used to support, then abandoned, who then attacked us later. Whew! That was close!

/sarcasm off

PS I sincerely hope that's the best you've got.

Hey Spidermean2
"Methinks thou doest protest too much". Don't you think it is time for you to come out of the closet?
I have to suspect anyone who dwells so long on Gays.
Mark Foley authored legislation to protect young people from sexual predators, a subject, it turns out he is very familiar with. So come on Spidermean2, I don't care if you are fegela.

I detest religion, especially the Christian religion, but I still think homosexuality is as far from real sexuality as the interrogation of Abner Louima, and I don't think men should marry other men anymore than pit bulls. And I am sick of liberal nazis reminding me that this makes me as bigoted as Adolf Hitler.

If liberals really believe that homosexuality is so damned holy, let them debate the issue. Only liars need to resort to censorship, ad hominems and intimidation, if not terror. Liberals refuse to even mention what homosexuals do and what diseases they carry. Nor do they mention the homicide rate among homosexuals, or the rate of alcoholism, drug addiction and suicide among these happy well adjusted gays.

spidermean2: "It's you liberal folks who are pushing your "religious beliefs" like gay marriage and gays should sleep with kids in our constitution."

So now we now why this dude is so crazy... He's a closet pedophile.

Hey pbhx:

Did you ever think about the fact that anyone who might have known anything about the Lincoln assassination is dead now?
Coincidence? I don't think so.

>>For being straight....Dobson seems to be really obsessed with homosexuality....wonder why that is??????

For being straight, Lot seemed to also be really obsessed or concerned with homosexuality too. And long before Dobson was born. He (Lot) actually encouraged people not to be that way (homosexual). He also knew it was, and is, against the nature of a loving, intimate relationship between a man and a woman. And he also saw the demise of a city where the inhabitants scoffed at and defied such laws of nature that have, by the way, been the norm in every society for millenia.

Actually, the way Dobson describes Obama's nation sounds like a dream come true! I especially like the part about teaching homosexuality as one possible choice in the vast continuum of human sexual orientations and to have it be a choice for GOODNESS. Wow! That'd be great.

Dobson, always the visionary and futurist, however, had no such healthy intentions. Sadly, this isn't even about religion for Dobson or any of the other shrill Churchian voices. It's not about his beliefs, per se. It'a about imprinting his beliefs, as Oedipal and fixated as they are, with the divine seal of godly approval.

Brother Dobson needs a long long spell on the couch, if you know what I mean. If he could come to some awareness of his own terrible mental afflictions and present himself for some heavy doses of reality therapy and a shock or two (maybe twenty) then we would not have to listen to his rat-like ego spouting off and inciting other rat-like egos across the nation to go to the deep end of the stupid pool.

James Dobson's continuous harping on the evils of homosexuality leads one to believe that "the minister doth protest too much." What any clinical psychiatrist would recognize is the latent homosexuality, fear and self-loathing that Dobson's public behavior evinces. Maybe he should rename his organization "Focus on the Homo." How deluded his followers must be. And, what is most significant as well as pathetic, how far astray from the message of Christ and the gospels his homophobic preaching remains.

We can only hope some of Nut-jobson's letter does come true..

"As a result, all radio stations have to provide equal time to contrasting views for every
political or policy-related program they broadcast by talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh, Laura
Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Dennis Prager, Janet Parshall, Michael Medved and Hugh Hewitt, and
broadcasters like Dr. James Dobson. Every conservative talk show is followed by an instant
rebuttal to the program by a liberal “watchdog” group. Many listeners gave up in frustration,
advertising (and donation) revenues dropped dramatically, and nearly all conservative stations
have gone out of business or switched to alternative formats such as country or gospel or other music. Conservative talk radio, for all intents and purposes, was shut down by the end of 2010."

~Amen! and Buh-bye!!

Dobson is surely a fraud and a hoaxer. Nobody with such profound ignorance of the reality of both sexual orientation and the Christian gospels could possibly have earned a legitimate PhD or possess any recognisable religious credentials.

Unfortunely there are a number of people that just hate to have some sort of discipline in their life. That is what the Bible does, it provides direction and discipline as to what is acceptable to God and what is not. It is amazing how much hate comes across from the liberal side of society. The Bible says God loves the sinner, but hates the sin. The Bible also says that in the last days, men will call "evil" good and "good" evil. According to the Bible, God wishes all to go to heaven, but mens evil ways and their disbelief in what the Bible says, quote: "Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the life, and no one comes to the Father except by me." This is what will keep many from going to heaven.

to dcwca:

It's interesting that you are using Lot as an example without really telling the truth - he encouraged the men to sodomize his 2 young virgin daughters instead of his friend not because it was un-natural but because he felt it was too degrading for a man but not a woman. The bible was written by a bunch of stupid old men who were obviously sexually repressed and that had zero respect for women. The old testament was written for the jews not for you gentiles...stop quoting from our book to justify your homophobia.

Wow, lots of sick people out there and it is amazing how many use religion to hide how much contempt they have for other human beings and how much self love they have for themselves and only those who look, act, speak and think like they do. Reminds me of Pharisees in the Bible. I wonder if those conservatives ever think of how much an abomination lying is or how abominable seeing other people in need and arrogantly putting their heads in the air leaving them in their need is. I wonder if they ever consider how their judgement and condemnation of others makes them hypocrits or how their greed and lust for wealth by any means necessary even murder makes them deeply rooted in evil. I wonder these things as they throw stones at homosexuals and hide deep seated racism within themselves and the people who faithfully even violently support them. Fear mongerers and people who do in the dark what they condemn others of doing in the light. It would be funny if they weren't really trying to rule the world and make most others suffer in the process.

pbhx wrote: "ZOMG! They almost RHYME! Thank you, thank you for your contribution to American politics! We might have elected a man whose name ALMOST RHYMES with that of a guy we used to support, then abandoned, who then attacked us later. Whew! That was close!"

I almost agree except Osama bin Laden never attacked us. He was an ally. You might as well blame the bombing of Pearl Harbor on Osama. See

http://emperors-clothes.com/news/probestop-i.htm

http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html

http://www.daanspeak.com/AlQaeda01Eng.html

The real Axis of Evil is ignorance, fear, and hatred.

The greatest commandment is to love God.
And second is to love your neighbor and yourself.

Dobson is not offensive for his positions. He is offensive because he is posturing his positions as Christian when they are diametrically opposed to the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.

He can believe what he likes, but from a Christian in 2008 his letter of 2012 is anti-Christian, or, anti-Christ, you choose.

God is not the author of confusion, and Dobson is deeply intertwined in stoking up confusion. There is no general concern for the wellbeing of humanity, but a gospel of hatred that he preaches. That is of Satan, not Jesus.

Why are these right-wingers allowed to use “newspeak” with regard to freedom. He claims liberals have cut freedoms. This all started in the Civil Rights era. Yes, it is true, the liberals have deprived Dobson and his ilk of the freedom to hold slaves, to discriminate against others because of their skin color, religion, etc. We get words like “freedom” and “Liberty” University where these people want anything BUT freedom. They want to control lives and do not want either freedom nor liberty. Indeed they are the very people who gave a contorted biblical justification of slavery, tried to prohibit interracial dating, and, while purporting to be pro-family, consistently oppose things that would really help the family such as universal health care, a MUCH more progressive tax code (similar to what was the case before Reagan slashed the rates for the wealthiest by about half. My freedoms and liberty are much more threatened by the right than the left (and when we are honest with ourselves, we do not really even have a left in this country such as in Europe. The biggest fault I find with Obama is that he is too conservative – NOT that he is too far to the left. I am way more liberal than he is, but I will vote for him as the lesser of 2 evils of two people to the right of me).

It has hit me that when people want to disguise their true intent, they name themselves exactly the opposite of what they are. For example The Democratic People’s Republic of…” is usually neither and is, in fact, a dictatorship. Real Democratic institutions do not have to put it in their name – they just call themselves something like Canada.

What GWB is doing now that his term is coming to a close is the only freedom these people care about. He is trying to make most of his big money contributors in industry free from any regulation that helps the country. These people care not at all about the country but only how to redistribute wealth from the poor and working folks to those who need it not at all.

I tire of hearing this kind of bile from pulpits. We have been warned about the Bushs, Dobsons, and Palins who use fearmongering and lies to seduce gullible Christians like themselves...

Romans 16: v 17-18
"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple."

Matthew 7:15
"Beware of false prophets which come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

Matthew 7: 21-23
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

2 Timothy 2:15
"Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Hey dcwca:

"the norm in every society for millenia"

I'm assuming you mean the norm that a certain percentage of the population has been gay for millennia? Yeah, I'm sure that's what you meant.

Boy what a different world it would be if people stopped justifying their own insecurities and fear by citing passages from the Bible that don't even make their point. I wonder if you realize just how stupid your comment sounds. I can only hope that there comes a day that you are freed of your terrible mental jail.

Dobson has drunk from the cup of power and forgets the very nature of the Kingdom that our Christ inaugurated. He forgets that Jesus clamped down on James and John for wanting to bring fire down on a unreceptive village and then mocked them with the nickname "sons of thunder."

Whatever we do and say should be clearly rooted in the language of love if we are to be faithful to His word. I John 4:18 "perfect love casts out fear." Love is the servant of the Spirit, fear denies the true nature and power of God. Givne the crisis/disasters upon us, "love builds up" should be our word to the nature, not "be afraid."

Those most obsessed with homosexuality tend to be those who are struggling with it deep within themselves, whether they can bring themselves to entertain this notion or not. Otherwise, there would be no reason to care.

I am hetero, but I certainly don't care about the sexual activities of consenting adults, whether they be homosexual or Mr. Dobson and his wife in their bedroom. I just don't give it another thought. What I DO care about is the fact that this world needs love, as much love as possible in all shapes and colors, to counteract all the hatred and mean spiritedness.

Don't worry Mr. Dobson, there will be plenty of heteros to keep populating the world with nice little Christians or whatever your concern might be. No need to continue operating out of fear and insecurity, which is what your letter SCREAMS to the rest of us. Please focus your passions elsewhere. Quit caring about what consulting adults are doing between the sheets and worry about something that really matters.

I wrote to FOF in protest of this letter. And I keep thinking, if someone from another country -- unaware of American politics -- read the Bible for this first time, what would he or she identify as the issues on God's heart? Abortion? No. Homosexuality? Um, no. Caring for the poor and oppressed? Yes! Serving one another? Oh yea! How did American Christianity get so far off the mark? Pray that God breaks our hearts with the things that break his.

-- An Obama-supporting evangelical in Virginia

Spidermean2:

If you actually STUDIED the Bible instead of relying on flat-earthers like Dobson, you would know that 1) NO ONE knows when the rapture will be and 2) The book of revelations was meant to be understood metaphorically.

Unfortunately, pinheads like you and Dobson grab an English translation and start interpreting with no thought to it’s original meaning or how it was meant to be understood by the original authors. REAL Bible study is hard work with years of effort required to even know the proper questions to ask. You would rather just start judging everyone based on your complete misunderstanding of Scripture.

Go on over to the Rush Limbaugh site. You’ll feel right at home and your IQ of 58 will make you the smartest one on the site.

Dobson should live in Tulsa so he could carry on the work of his idol Oral Roberts AND we could just seal off Tulsa from the rest of the 'reality-based' community once and for all..

Ariminius above says it with great clarity:

"Arminius:

Joesph Goebbels would have been proud of Dobson's vile letter."

Oozing with liberalism. You people take a twisted demented look at righteousness. If you don't like the truth of moralism, there's always Canada. I hear they got all of the immoral eye, ear and senses candies that liberals love. But don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

here's another one to believe. i went for a ride on my bike this morning, and came to a wealth little cul de sac. all had mccain signs. one however, where they have three kids had tombstones on the lawn. one read: here lies barack, someone got lucky with a rock.

Dobson is proof positive there is no god or ID. Some say God is love, which God? Is the God who gave the 10 mostly silly and stupid commandments is love? Or is it Jesus who wanted family members to turn against each other unless they all accept his way? If you must have something for God then let Love be god. Who knows, even this Dobson may have turned out to be a good decent gay fellow but for this silly God of bible.

fr laseay:

>...Christians do not hate homesexuals, they just don't agree with it morally. I for one don't care what people do in the privacy of their own lives. But I don't agree that we should teach this in school (along with many other things taught in school). I don't agree that it should be pushed politically either. Dobson is not preaching fear - he is teaching a change in political views that discriminates against churches and their beliefs.

I'm sorry, but you are misinformed. Those of us who are GLBT have had ROCKS thrown at us, we've been SPAT upon by so-called good Slavic "Christians" who are demanding that we get shoved back into the closet. One so-called Slavic "Christian man" KILLED a gay man and then skipped the country and is hiding in Russia or the Ukraine. Call that Christian? I sure don't.

As for your comment about dobdork not preaching fear, nothing could be further from the truth. He's one of the nutballs behind Prop 8, which would strip GLBT's from their hard-won RIGHT to marry the consenting partner of their choice.

MisterBeee1:
I see that you're a fan of theocracy. Interesting that it becomes increasingly difficult to tell you right wing nut jobs from the "Islamo-facists" that you claim to be so tough on.

OK, I understand you disagree with James Dobson's philospohies, but what in the letter is untrue?

Catholic Charities has already shut down adoption in Boston, rather than being forced to let gay couples adopt children. First graders in San Francisco went to their teacher's lesbian wedding as a field trip. Nancy Pelosi is already talking about enacting the "fairness doctrine" which would place restrictions on speech on the radio. The boy scouts were kicked out of their hall in Philadelphia due to their views on homosexuality.

I understand that the America that James Dobson envisions is not a nightmare to you, but can you deny that it could happen under an Obama presidency?

Paranoids, hate mongers, and the Xenophobic nuts who make up the far right of the republican party continue to be an embarrassment with their querulous, shameless, and illiterate superstitions. Thank you, David Waters, for bringing this to our attention. The real culprits, however, are not the agents of disinformation like Dobson, but those who listen to this demagoguery without denouncing it for what it is - blatant nonsense.

How can anyone who prides themselves in being an American not be outraged by such an egregious abuse of ones position of influence. Dobson proves once again his unfitness as a spokesman for anything more than calling out charges as a toll collector for the bridge to nowhere.

Woah! mlewis222

The right wing is constantly complaining about media bias to the left but then you are saying that the “fairness doctrine” which says that if you broadcast one view, you have to give equal time to the opposing view. Which is it? My guess is that you folks know that it is not really a biased media other than Fox on the right and, to a lesser degree MSNBC on the left. However you like to “play the ref” to make the media walk on eggs and go out of the way not to criticize the irrational arguments sometimes put out by the right wing. Because you really want to dominate and thus fear a fair split. You can’t have it both ways!

There is coming a day very soon when all of the people who rail against "true" evangelical Christians will wish they had listened. My heart breaks for those who refuse to believe truth because it puts them under an authority and they want to be able to control their own lives and do what pleases them.
May God help all of you to see truth.

Mr. Dobson there is no evidence that you are a christian - you may talk the talk but like the pharisees of Jesus time you don't walk the walk.

At this very moment Bush is trying to destroy environmental safety regulations and if he is successful he may render the nation unable to feed itself.

The stupidity and arrogance of the republican party threatens not only our national security but the world at large and while all this is going on you have the unmitigated gall to call down Barack Obama.

Were you paid to throw up this distraction while Bush pulls off the final rape of our great nation?

Look at your own house first and see if that is clean before you start throwing stones.

Lions and tigers and bears! Oh, my!

BrendaB1:
ROFLMAO! I can't believe you're for real. You should write comedy. You're waiting for the rapture aren't you?! You are living proof of Poe's Law. Look it up.

Since you seem to have such astute judgment, I've got some land in South Dakota you might be interested in. Shoot me an email at landforcheap@donteveremailme.com

If Christians would start behaving Christ-like...then they would be taken seriously.

The teachings of Christ, like the teachings of Muhammed and other spiritual leaders, are beautiful. Christians today somehow feel they have some sort of special truths that make them superior. Ahem. Bush leadership.

Bumper sticker says it all:
"JESUS, SAVE US FROM YOUR FOLLOWERS"

"increasingly difficult to tell you right wing nut jobs from the "Islamo-facists" that you claim to be so tough on"

Got that right.. they both restrict women's rights down to the very clothes they must wear, they feel their religious doctrine trumps secular laws, they both claim God to be their side, they both believe that music, dancing and Hollywood are leading the path to the devil... it's all very circular, if you go far enough right it ends up being the same place as when you travel far left.

To the unindoctrinated...there are no gods and Jesus, like Socrates, is just plain dead.

If we continue to brainwash our children into belief in an invisible skyfairy...we are asking for trouble; and superstitious goons like Dobson are empowered to spread ludicrous anti-intellectual nonsense as if it was profound truth. This is very scary.

Enough already. Time to dump religious nonsense, and aim for a more rational world. As far as we know there are no gods, except the ones we dream up...for comfort.

Dobson is a perfect example of what happens when you remove Christ from Christianity. It becomes all about power, fear, and manipulation of the masses. He should re-read the Gospels.

MLewis222: I understand your concerns, but I believe you're missing a key connection between the Constitution and guaranteed freedoms in our country. Let me for discussion sake, accept your news reporting as fact:

1. Catholic Charities was not forced to close. It made that choice, all on its own. No Obama led presidency would ever force private charities to do anything they didn't want to do.

2. School kids going to a wedding is awful, isn't it? Even if the partners are same gender. What did you expect they would see at the ceremony? People take their clothes off and have an orgy?

3. Pelosi's request to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. I don't think it would ever pass, but the concept is for media outlets to practice balanced reporting - a worthy goal.

4. The BoyScouts are a homophobic organization, and btw, as a private enterprise are free to be just that. They also do a lot of good. But because of the freedoms I think you would also promote, the owner of a meeting room is FREE to rent or not rent out his room - for any reason, including the unwillingness to support organizations who have no business spying into the bedrooms of others, like the Boys Scouts of America.

I highly suggest you look inward, MLewis222, and see if Mr. Dobson and his followers (some of whom are my dear friends) haven't taken this Bible stuff a bit too far.

MLEWIS222,

If any of these ludicrous scenarios do, in fact, come to fulfillment, it will have nothing to do with Obama, who is an Evangelical Christian himself, but with the abject failure of the Christian right to provide to the the vast majority of Americans a meaningful and fulfilling vision of human life and possibilities. If the GOP becomes the Party of Palin, as it seems poised to do, she will promptly march the party off the cliff of historical irrelevancy.

Dear Americans

Let me write to you about the thing you are proud of for more than 200 years. You are the oldest democracy. And me? I am yet to be born of democracy. I have never voted in my life, yet am telling you about voting! It looks as if a daughter is teaching her multiparous mom on the skills of delivery. Let it be so. I am going to tell you who you are and what you are about to do.

Who are you?

You are a nation of 53 nations, a country of 53 developed countries. You are the economic and technological mitochondrion of the globe. You are the third populated nation. You are a country of great people. You are great economically, technologically, and in all fields of scientific achievement. Yet you are still hanging guns like the nomads of East Africa[1]. You are less developed socially than economically. Despite your gross national wealth and individual good standard of living, you are still looking at and dying for daily bread __ long after those great Americans had it on Thanks giving day.

You are having influence on each and every country of the planet. Your men and women in uniform around the world are more than the population of some countries. Your wealth around the world is more than the combined wealth of many countries. You have more stakes in the world than any other country. The name America is mentioned more than any country in every house-hold the world over. Your embassies in every country are the busiest of all embassies with the longest queues you could ever imagine. You are the envy of developed as well as developing countries. You are dream-come-true for every living soul of the mainstream world culture. I am not praising you. I am just telling you who you are.

You started as refugees, settlers and immigrants. You started from scratch. By the time you started building huts out of straws; my great grand father was living in a splendid house. You had your first thanks giving thousands of years after we had ours in the Middle East. You had your first business thousands of years after others had it elsewhere. Yet, you are ranking first in all of these.

America is not just a country. America is an idea. As such America had and has existed before USA. It had existed in the minds of those immigrants who crossed the Atlantic with boats that you will never dare to use today. It was not the boats that took them across the Atlantic. It was the love of freedom and anxiety that propelled them across the turbulent waters. This love of freedom and anxiety still continues to propel and catapult people by land, by water, by air and by dream. You can not understand the anxiety people do have before coming to your country in the hope of becoming American. That is why I am saying Americans are Americans before becoming American. In all countries, people are born in to citizenship. In America you are born in to it, as well as attracted and baptized with it; and risk your life into it. Americanism is like born-again nationalism.

You are simple-sophisticated and irrationally rational great people with great values, but shifting ideas with shifting fuel prices. Idealism does not shift with materialism. Do you know why the Roman Empire collapsed? One of the major factors was over dose of materialism and idolatry of celebrity coupled with inability to fend off barbaric attacks from outside! Do you know why the British Empire continued to date in different form? I don’t know either, but I think it is due to balanced dose of materialism with idealism! Your materialism is choking your idealism. As a result of this imbalance of materialism and idealism, with the coming presidential election you are about to write the story of the beginning of the end of your great nation.

The Coming Election

America is not a political entity, as are your parties. Don’t look America through an eye-glass of political parties. Don’t look America through an eye-glass daily bread and fuel price. Look at it through the prism of American idealism. What you are getting from America is not just a car, a house, food, fuel, etc. These are things you earn. You don’t earn security, you vote for it and you get it from America.

Through voting one would generally conserve positive achievements, avoid negatives and achieve something more. The degree of what to conserve, what to avoid and what to achieve would definitely differ in Zimbabwe from America, where you have much to conserve. In today’s world, security is the single most achievement America needs to conserve.

Are you ashamed of the war in Iraq? It appears so. Why? By voting for Bush’s second term, you have registered your support for the war. So what happened now? What made you withdraw your support? Is it an absence of an immediate victory? Shame upon you! Adults don’t support victory. They rather support a cause. Don’t shuttle between cause and victory. Stick to where adults belong. I am not supporter of this or any other war. I am only humbly reminding you what you had supported earlier with respect to what your great country did. The vast majority of Iraqis have supported your action too. It has been a win-win war for the vast majority of both countries.

Do you remember what Osama Bin Laden (OBL) said in his evil statement following 9/11? He told you that you will feel his presence everywhere in America: East, West, North and South.

Do you remember how you were humbled (and disciplined) during the post 9/11 days? Do you remember your president, the most powerful person in the world, hiding like a rat? Just like Saddam Hussein, though for a short time.

Do you remember how you were feeling following 9/ 11? Do you remember what items you were buying and stocking? I will not ask you what you were dreaming at night. America was being haunted by OBL. The most powerful nation on the planet was struck with fear and terror. By the way, like it or not, OBL has achieved, in part, his stated objective: terrorizing Americans. The unstated objective is to wipe America off the planet. This was implied later on by the true OBL of Iran[2].

Do you think it is by good luck that there has not been a second terror related attack on American soil in the 2555 days following 9/11? It could be in part, but don’t make mistake. Keeping those guys busy elsewhere is what has accounted for your safety at home and around the world. Most of you don’t know how much the bad guys would leave any stone unturned to destroy you and your America. They hate you beyond what the human language could describe. Keeping them and their supporters busy running up and down; and distracting their attention is what kept you safe. Do you know how much planning and time went into 9/11. Hopefully OBL will tell you. But definitely it was an enormous exercise that had definitely required years of grass-root organization, recruitment, patience, training, lobbying, advocacy, assimilation, camouflage, being chambermaid, etc. Do you know who is brewing what at home and around the world? No one knows, but all of us know something is looming and impending.

Dear Americans,

Do not be fooled by politically correct and rosy speeches telling you that this is ‘politics of fear’. It is not politics of fear. It is politics of walking on a mine field. It is a politics of American survival__ not American life. American life ceased on 9/11? Now you are just surviving, not living, until terror attacks are well beyond any possibility. Those who say it is politics of fear are crooners creeping into your mind and planting a virus into your brain. If you are not wise enough in the coming election you will be reduced to history. The threat is real and facing you straight gazing into your eyes now as it was then.

You are the land of credits and stock markets, living on speculations. Guys, you can live, but not vote on speculation. Vote on records and real-happenings not on stock market speculations and wishful thinking. You can risk your money, but not your life (country). Don’t be a nation of shop-keepers, as Napoleon used to call Britain.

You are a land of corporate and companies. How do you hire people for posts in your companies? Through CVs or through what the candidate tells you about himself/herself? You are hiring one person to the most important post in the world. Use the CV[3] method!

I have heard that most of you are headline readers. This could be ok with everyday life where you are short of time, rushing and haring to win your daily bread! Folks, you need to read the whole story line by line and between the lines through the CVs of your candidates.

I would imagine you have become icon/button clicking nation. You click for greeting, you click for reading, you click for prayer and you click for buying. Guys, presidential voting is not a physical act of just clicking a windows-based icon. It is rather like writing a series of DOS based instructions. Before clicking an icon, click your mind twice.

You are a nation of ‘I am sorry’. Hello there! This works only with minor wrongs. It doesn’t work with casting your vote in the wrong ballot. By the time you will have said ‘I am sorry’, ops … it is too late!

You are a nation of risk-takers and adventurous great people. This has been fueling your growth and development. This is great, and works with business, scientific research, exploration of the space and deep ocean , but not with voting at a critical moment in your history!

You are a country struck with credit crunch. I don’t have any idea how this happened to you. But, I know how you could be hit with election crunch, unless you employ extreme care in the coming critical election. Credit crunch could be reversed, but not election crunch!

This election is very critical. Why? What is special about this election? First let me tell you what critical means. Criticality is a state of things about to undergo a radical change[4]. Water at 100 Celsius is at critical point. It will change to another state of matter. It is a point at which something is transformed into some other thing for good. Let us look at this election from inside and outside.

Internally, all the four candidates were for-the-first-time persons in terms of religion, sex, color and age. Are you running short of mainstream personalities? I don’t think so. This is a sign of maturity of democracy. And with maturity comes criticality! The flip side of first-time candidates is first-time voters. In your history of presidential elections, you are going to be careful for the first time. You have never voted for this age and this color. There is nothing wrong with the age and the color. I wish Barack Hussein Obama was Collin Powel or my Condi, who could have handled the international situation with care and wisdom. Look at the external factors: OBL still at large, calculating the next move, Russia rising as a bulling power, China coming on the scene with blind graze-everything appetite, the Middle East boiling with Hezbollah and Hamas, Iran acquiring nukes and footholds in your doorsteps, and the whole of Latinos going red under the stewardship of Hugo Chavez. Do you know how much money, energy, time and prayer foreign nations are investing in the current presidential election? In the light of this scary environment, don’t try to be politically correct.

Political correctness is a state of being in artificial agreement with technical incorrectness, an artificial agreement with time, place and person. Political correctness is sacrificing strategic truth on the altars of transient popular acceptance. In the past it used to be called left opportunism. It is a gentle cover of arrogance and superiority complex. Are you suffering from superiority complex? Then you are absolutely wrong. Superiority complex is as much damaging as inferiority complex. Don’t add an extra mile to prove to us your democratic value by voting for a black minority. You will have time to prove your democratic credentials and add to your mileage after terror threats are eliminated. Now, vote on technical correctness, not on political correctness.

In one of your literature I have read about thin-slicing. I think it is about making a fast decision with a molecule of information. Americans! beware of thin-slicing presidential voting! God forbid the following from being written in the future:

History of America in 13 words.

George Washington. Great Nation. Barack Hussein Obama. There was a country called America.

Wish you good luck and wisdom

Vote for America

Yours truly,

AKETE Rob, Friend of America

September, 10, 2008

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[1] Don’t get me wrong. I am not advocating gun-free America. Freedom from guns comes from the mind and heart of Americans, not from congress.

[2] Had you had a sensitive political antenna this motive of Iran was indicated when the clerics seized innocent Americans and massacred them decades back.

[3] Take nothing on its looks; take everything on evidence. There's no better rule. Charles Dickens, Great Expectations (1861)

[4] I am not talking about the change the two guys are talking about. The two guys are obsessed with change. (I would like to tell them that there is nothing stagnant in time and space. The issue is change in what direction?) As a matter of fact, there is no need for a radical change in America, in relation to Washington. By the way pointing fingers at Rome was what heralded the downfall of the Roman Empire.

JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST!!!!

Why does anyone give Dobson a forum? What makes his half-wit ramblings newsworthy? It seems that any sleaze-bag con-man can proclaim himself to be a "conservative" and a "christian" and Voila! he gets air-time on CNN or Faux News, and everyone else in the world is compelled to grapple with his inane babblings as if they were representative of a coherent thought process.

Dobson is no christian and he's no conservative. He's a crook, just like his pals Falwell, Swaggert, Bakker, Reagan, Cheney, and Bush. He's a parasite who never worked a day in his life, who posesses no skills or knowledge beyond his ability to cheat people out of their money so that he can devote the loot to propaganda and dirty tricks. Dobson is a truly worthless individual who should be completely ignored by the entire world (until we get to his indictment).

God is not a Republican!

This is just so typical, and this is how they keep the pews, and bank accounts, filled. This is probably the best time, in the past 2000 years, for Christianity, but Dobson, and his ilk, can't tolerate that, they have to create "monsters bent on destroying their religion". By keeping the "faithful" fearful, uninformed and unthinking, these so called leaders can keep "leading." Sadly, it's all about power and money, faith has very little to do with Dobson, et al.

Dobson is a perfect example of what happens when you start believing in so-called Christ and Christianity. It becomes all about power, fear, and manipulation of the masses when he reads and re-reads the Gospels. What else can you expect?

People like Dobson are representing a cult following and not GOD. I believe all evangelist are on the verge of a religious war in which they will loose because of blind stupidly in believing in a faults prophet. God will not forgive you for following a faults prophet and nor will he protect you from his hand for the continued use of his name, his beliefs and the love he represents for all, in vein. To all evangelist; do not become another Jamestown and drink the poison wine. Walk away and ask for forgiveness before its to late.

DAVID LETTERMAN CALLED BILL O’REILLY AN IDIOT RACIST TO HIS FACE ON NATIONAL TELEVISION

GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RACIST MEDIA IS DIVIDING AND HURTING AMERICA

SUPER RACIST BILL MELTDOWN O’REILLY
SUPER RACIST NEWSMAX
SUPER RACIST O’REILLY FACTOR
SUPER RACIST FOX NEWS
SUPER RACIST SEAN HANNITY
SUPER RACIST GLEN BECK
SUPER RACIST TUCKER CARLSON
SUPER RACIST THE NEW YORKER

TRASH TELEVISION IS HURTING AMERICA

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FRAUD AND BLIND GREED GAVE BIRTH TO:

SLAVERY – CAPITALISM ANCIENT ANCESTOR - WARS
FEUDALISM – CAPITALISM MEDIEVAL ANCESTOR - WARS
COLONIALISM – CAPITALISM NEW WORLD STYLE - WARS
SUPERCAPITALISM – WALL STREET LAS VEGAS HIGH LEVERAGE GAMBLING CAPITALISM – WARS
CAPITALISM (STEALING FROM THE MAJORITY TO OBSCENELY ENRICH THE FEW)

IF YOU OWN A GUN (KILLING DEVICE), THEN YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN
JESUS WAS AGAINST WEAPONS
JESUS WAS AGAINST KILLING
JESUS WAS AGAINS VIOLENCE
JESUS WAS AGAINST LIES AND ABUSE
IF YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN YET YOU OWN A GUN AND CONDONE VIOLENCE, LIES AND ABUSE, THEN YOU ARE A LIAR.
JESUS IS FOR LOVE

Dr. James Dobson is a vile, vile man clothed as a Christian. I don't expect his brand of evangelicals to vote for Obama anyway, so his faux 'Letter From Obama's America' signed by a "Christian," will only ring up cherries with the Religious Right. Dobson will go on spewing hate, fear and division until he dies, I think, unless he has some sort of moment of truth when it comes to what being a Christian really means.

DAVID LETTERMAN CALLED BILL O’REILLY AN IDIOT RACIST TO HIS FACE ON NATIONAL TELEVISION

GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RACIST MEDIA IS DIVIDING AND HURTING AMERICA

SUPER RACIST BILL MELTDOWN O’REILLY
SUPER RACIST NEWSMAX
SUPER RACIST O’REILLY FACTOR
SUPER RACIST FOX NEWS
SUPER RACIST SEAN HANNITY
SUPER RACIST GLEN BECK
SUPER RACIST TUCKER CARLSON
SUPER RACIST THE NEW YORKER

TRASH TELEVISION IS HURTING AMERICA

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FRAUD AND BLIND GREED GAVE BIRTH TO:

SLAVERY – CAPITALISM ANCIENT ANCESTOR - WARS
FEUDALISM – CAPITALISM MEDIEVAL ANCESTOR - WARS
COLONIALISM – CAPITALISM NEW WORLD STYLE - WARS
SUPERCAPITALISM – WALL STREET LAS VEGAS HIGH LEVERAGE GAMBLING CAPITALISM – WARS
CAPITALISM (STEALING FROM THE MAJORITY TO OBSCENELY ENRICH THE FEW)

IF YOU OWN A GUN (KILLING DEVICE), THEN YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN
JESUS WAS AGAINST WEAPONS
JESUS WAS AGAINST KILLING
JESUS WAS AGAINS VIOLENCE
JESUS WAS AGAINST LIES AND ABUSE
IF YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN YET YOU OWN A GUN AND CONDONE VIOLENCE, LIES AND ABUSE, THEN YOU ARE A LIAR.
JESUS IS FOR LOVE

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I know a lot of people say we should ignore crazies like Dobson, but I think we do so at our own peril. People ignore Hitler too, and look what happened.

And, YES, I am comparing James Dobson to Hitler. Hitler had the Jews to blame. Dobson blames gay people. And, Dobson is just as dangerous.

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This is why I am no longer a Christian. Christianity has been hijacked by Evanglical Christian Extremists (ECE)and yes you people do exist. The ECE is no different than Islamic Muslim Extremists they are just a tad more "polite" and "civilized" about their rhetoric and behavior.

GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH EXECUTIVES OF EXXON MOBIL SMASHED THEIR OWN $60,000,000,000.00 PROFIT RECORD THIS YEAR AT THE EXPENSE OF STRUGGLING MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME PAYING THE OBSCENELY HIGH PRICES FOR GAS.

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL TODAY FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE.

ALASKA CELEBRATES ITS 50TH ANNIVERSARY BY ENDORSING OBAMA.

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I just wish for one week John McCain could live the life of a man or woman, working a 40-hour week on minimum wage, paying payroll taxes, and living off that net income. Just to see what that net income could buy in a week, how much rent, food and gas if he was lucky enough to be able to afford even an old clunker and the insurance on it. Then talk about how these people are undeserving, and how the rich do not need to pay their fair share, even though it's just the amount they paid under Reagan and Clinton, like that's too much for them to bear.

I'd like to see John McCain live in the REAL WORLD of the working person for just a week and do the actual work of MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS. Why does he hate working people? Does he even know what payroll taxes are and how much they are?

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NO MORE GOLDEN PARACHUTES FOR EXECUTIVE CRIMINALS

GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET CRIMINALS PREPARE FOR HANDCUFFS AND ASSETS CONFISCATION

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If you want to know who was responsible for this $3 TRILLION MESS and TREASON AGAINST THE U.S. TREASURY, THEN FOLLOW THE MONEY.

The chief beneficiaries of the economic system now collapsed are the GOP WALL STREET EXECUTIVE SPECULATORS, CEOs, CFOs, COOs of the corporations which designed it.

BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, PAULSON, MCCAIN, PALIN disapproved regulations affecting their own businesses, a perfect recipe for corruption.

The REPUBLICAN "BASE" has become nothing more than a CRIMINAL GROUP COMMITTING GRAND FRAUD / TREASON AGAINST the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

CONFISCATE ALL PROPERTIES (DOMESTIC / ABROAD) OF GOP REPUBLICANS AND WALL STREET CEOs INVOLVED IN THIS $3 TRILLION TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THROW THEM IN JAIL WITH ALL OF THEIR MONEY RETURNED TO THE U.S. TREASURY.

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The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, nine trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work. Two thirds of that comes from inheritance; interest on interest accumulating to widows / idiot sons; and stock / real estate SPECULATION. It is crap.

Ninety percent of the American public has little or no net worth.

WALL STREET SPECULATORS create nothing. But through SUPER-CAPITALISM (FRAUD), WALL STREET SPECULATORS OWN THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTRY. The Super Rich running America are doing it through Las Vegas style gambling. IT IS CRAP!!!

RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS make the rules (news, war, peace, famine, upheaval).

RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS pick that rabbit out of the hat while the American People wonder how WE GOT INTO THIS MESS.

You are not naive enough to think that we live in a Democracy?

IT'S THE FREE MARKET. And you're a part of it.

GOP REPUBLICAN RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS have that killer instinct. Stick around, GOP REPUBLICAN RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS still have more stealing to do.

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MCCAIN VOTED WITH BUSH 90% OF THE TIME, WHICH MAKES HIM A BUSH CLONE. IF YOU LOOK LIKE A BUSH, ACT LIKE A BUSH, VOTE LIKE A BUSH, THEN YOU ARE A BUSH. QUACK!!! QUACK!!!

IT’S DUCK SEASON AND ALL OF THE $3 TRILLION THAT GOP BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, MCCAIN, PALIN, PAULSON, THEIR GOP CONGRESSIONAL STOOGES, GOP CEOs, AND GOP SUPER RICH WALL STREET INVESTORS HAVE STOLEN FROM THE TREASURY (AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS) MUST BE IMMEDIATELY RETURNED.

CONFISCATE ALL PROPERTIES AND ASSETS (DOMESTIC AND HIDDEN ABROAD) OF SUPER RICH GOP CRIMINALS;

RETURN THE $3TRILLION TO THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS; AND

PUT THOSE GOP SUPER RICH CRIMINALS IN CUFFS FOR DESTRUCTION OF OUR ECONOMY HIGH TREASON.

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HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PAILIN’S REMARKS

Palin good grief, where did they find her in Hooters ? Hillary wants to know if Pailin wants to run the United States in the same manner that she and McCain ran their dysfunctional families. With the nomination of hockey mom and desperate housewife Sarah Failin, John McCain has officially transformed the defunct GOP Republican Party into a circus complete with a lipstick wearing pig clown displaying the IQ of a cockatoo. While Sarah Falin is campaigning, Alaska is missing its village idiot in charge of guarding the Russian border. It is not very patriotic to leave your front porch, while the Russians are swimming across the Bering Strait. The Russians are interested in negotiating with foreign policy expert Sarah Palin. What a joke and disgrace to our country the GOP Republicans have become. (Bush, Quayle, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Guiliani, Palin) is this the best that you can do?

Hillary Clinton added the following:

Sarah Pailin’s
Anti-women stance;
Pathological lies;
Affairs with Todd’s business partners;
Dogs, endangered species and arctic wildlife shootings from the helicopter;
Affiliation with Joe Vogler of the raging anti-American Alaska Independence Party;

led to the five letter word pertaining to an Arctic hillbilly (P A L I N).

Hooters girl Sarah Palin makes good on joke to become GOP old man VP nomination.

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JOE CRACK ROCK HEAD PLUNGER AND SARAH HOOTERS MOM PALIN SIGN REALITY SHOW DEAL

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HOOTERS GIRL PALIN UNAWARE OF RUSSIAN ENERGY MEETING IN ALASKA

SELF PROFESSED RUSSIAN EXPERT PALIN (HOOTERS GIRL / HOCKEY MOM)
Alaska governor Sarah Palin and former Hooters girl was unaware of Russian Energy Officials’ visit to Anchorage on Monday.

Eight high-level officials from Gazprom, Russia's state-controlled energy conglomerate, traveled to Anchorage earlier this week to meet with the Alaska Department of Natural Resources and the chief executive of ConocoPhillips to discuss energy projects and the possibility of expanding into new markets.

Joe the plunger (Samuel the crackhead) forgot to assume Sarah Palin’s rocking chair position on the front porch facing Russia.

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AMERICA, EUROPE AND THE WORLD NEED HEALING THROUGH FORWARD THINKING IRISH-AMERICAN HARVARD LAW SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA

When Obama ends the illegal GOP Republican Iraq War, $1Trillion will flow back into the United States and create 20 million American jobs.

Obama loves America, while GOP Republican McCain loves tax loopholes for the rich.

Joe the plunger’s real name is Samuel the crackhead who exemplifies McCain’s continued failures and inert fraudulent nature of the lost GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY. What a joke.

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GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET FRAUD AND BLIND GREED HAS KILLED SUPER-CAPITALISM

Thanks to GOP Republican Wall Street fraud, the International Banking System will no longer use capitalism.

Asia and Latin America will stay far away from American super-capitalism.

Europe will demand transparency and strict enforcement of International Banking Laws for ALL NATIONS, especially the United States.

Europe views Wall Street CEOs and investors as criminals unworthy of trust who must be closely monitored commensurate with their dishonest nature.

DEMOCRACY RISING RALLIES TO EDUCATE AND EMPOWER AMERICAN CITIZENS

COMMERCIAL ALERT AND CITIZEN RIGHTS
(PROTECT AMERICAN FAMILIES, COMMUNITIES, U.S. DEMOCRACY FROM WALL STREET FRAUD AND CORPORATE CORRUPTION)

THE RICH ARE STEALING AND SELLING AMERICA: STOP THEM!!!

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SUPER RICH GOP REPUBLICAN MILLIONAIRES / BILLIONAIRES ARE HIDING $3TRILLION STOLEN FROM THE TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) IN FOREIGN BANKS, PROPERTIES AND SWEATSHOPS.

CONFISCATE ALL PROPERTIES (DOMESTIC / FOREIGN) BELONGING TO RICH REPUBLICANS INVOLVED WITH ROBBING THE TREASURY AND RETURN THE $3TRILLION TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

IT IS RIGHT TO PROSECUTE ACTS OF TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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Since 1929, Republicans and Democrats have each controlled the presidency for nearly 40 years. So which party has been better for the American pocketbook? If you invested $10,000 exclusively under either Democratic or Republican administrations, this is how you would you have fared:

From 1929 to 2008, $10,000 invested in S & P under the GOP Republican Presidency would have grown to $11,733. ($51,211 if you exclude Herbert Hoover’s presidency during the Great Depression)

From 1929 to 2008, $10,000 invested in S & P under the Democratic Presidency would have grown to $300,671.

Democrats have always been better for the American People, than GOP Republicans.

GOP Republican high propensity for Greed and Fraud has finally destroyed their Wall Street Golden Goose.

Give the GOP Republican criminals handcuffs and property confiscation.

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AMERICA, EUROPE AND THE WORLD NEED HEALING THROUGH FORWARD THINKING IRISH-AMERICAN HARVARD LAW SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA

When Obama ends the illegal GOP Republican Iraq War, $1Trillion will flow back into the United States and create 20 million American jobs.

Obama loves America, while GOP Republican McCain loves tax loopholes for the rich.

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GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET TYPE RICH BUSINESSMEN WERE TRADING WITH THE BRITISH DURING THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.

THEY DID NOT WANT INDEPENDENCE FOR AMERICA, BECAUSE THEY LOVED BIG PROFITS MORE THAN FREEDOM FOR AMERICA.

GREEDY RICH GOP REPUBLICANS HAVE NEVER PUT AMERICA FIRST, WHICH IS WHY THEY AVOID PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES BY SENDING $3 TRILLION OVERSEAS TO TAX HAVENS, SWEATSHOPS AND FOREIGN PROPERTY.

A HANDFUL OF SUPER RICH GOP REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS AND WALL STREET INVESTORS CAN STEAL MORE THAN 10 MILLION CRIMINALS WITH GUNS

RICH PEOPLE ARE SELLING OUR AMERICA TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER

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SUPER-CAPITALISM HAS FAILED AMERICA

GOP Republican McCain takes money from the middle class and gives it to the super wealthy (multi-millionaires, multi-billionaires) who send $3 trillion American dollars overseas to sweatshops.

GOP Republican Super-capitalism has:

Sent 8 million American jobs overseas.

Sent $3 trillion American dollars overseas to sweatshops with a multiplier effect of 4 resulting in $12 trillion taken out of circulation within America and created mammoth American job loss.

GOP Republicans call this patriotism when it’s Treason, especially when Wall Street stole $3 trillion from the American people to finance foreign sweatshops and super luxurious lifestyles for criminal multi-millionaires and multi-billionaires.

The GOP Republican Super Rich are taking everything from the American middle class.
The American middle class are now poorer than their parents. (absolutely true)
The American middle class children will grow into debt and poverty forced upon them by the GOP Republican Super Rich.

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DAVID LETTERMAN CALLED BILL O’REILLY AN IDIOT RACIST TO HIS FACE ON NATIONAL TELEVISION

GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RACIST MEDIA IS DIVIDING AND HURTING AMERICA

SUPER RACIST BILL MELTDOWN O’REILLY
SUPER RACIST NEWSMAX
SUPER RACIST O’REILLY FACTOR
SUPER RACIST FOX NEWS
SUPER RACIST SEAN HANNITY
SUPER RACIST GLEN BECK
SUPER RACIST TUCKER CARLSON
SUPER RACIST THE NEW YORKER

TRASH TELEVISION IS HURTING AMERICA

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FRAUD AND BLIND GREED GAVE BIRTH TO:

SLAVERY – CAPITALISM ANCIENT ANCESTOR - WARS
FEUDALISM – CAPITALISM MEDIEVAL ANCESTOR - WARS
COLONIALISM – CAPITALISM NEW WORLD STYLE - WARS
SUPERCAPITALISM – WALL STREET LAS VEGAS HIGH LEVERAGE GAMBLING CAPITALISM – WARS
CAPITALISM (STEALING FROM THE MAJORITY TO OBSCENELY ENRICH THE FEW)

IF YOU OWN A GUN (KILLING DEVICE), THEN YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN
JESUS WAS AGAINST WEAPONS
JESUS WAS AGAINST KILLING
JESUS WAS AGAINS VIOLENCE
JESUS WAS AGAINST LIES AND ABUSE
IF YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN YET YOU OWN A GUN AND CONDONE VIOLENCE, LIES AND ABUSE, THEN YOU ARE A LIAR.
JESUS IS FOR LOVE

LONG LIVE FREE COOPERATIVE WORLD PEOPLE

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HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PAILIN’S REMARKS

Palin good grief, where did they find her in Hooters ? Hillary wants to know if Pailin wants to run the United States in the same manner that she and McCain ran their dysfunctional families. With the nomination of hockey mom and desperate housewife Sarah Failin, John McCain has officially transformed the defunct GOP Republican Party into a circus complete with a lipstick wearing pig clown displaying the IQ of a cockatoo. While Sarah Falin is campaigning, Alaska is missing its village idiot in charge of guarding the Russian border. It is not very patriotic to leave your front porch, while the Russians are swimming across the Bering Strait. The Russians are interested in negotiating with foreign policy expert Sarah Palin. What a joke and disgrace to our country the GOP Republicans have become. (Bush, Quayle, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Guiliani, Palin) is this the best that you can do? Hillary added that Sarah Failin’s pathological lies, affairs with Todd’s business partners, shootings of endangered species, and unprofessional name calling led to the five letter word pertaining to an Arctic hillbilly (P A L I N).

Hooters girl Sarah Palin makes good on joke bet to become GOP old man VP nomination.

HOOTERS GIRL PALIN UNAWARE OF RUSSIAN ENERGY MEETING IN ALASKA

Self professed Russian expert Sarah Palin (Hooters girl / hockey mom)
Alaska governor Sarah Palin and former Hooters girl was unaware of Russian Energy Officials’ visit to Anchorage on Monday.

Eight high-level officials from Gazprom, Russia's state-controlled energy conglomerate, traveled to Anchorage earlier this week to meet with the Alaska Department of Natural Resources and the chief executive of ConocoPhillips to discuss energy projects and the possibility of expanding into new markets.

Someone forgot to assume Sarah Palin’s rocking chair position on the front porch facing Russia.

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SEND IN THE LIPSTICK PIG CLOWN, NEVER MIND SARAH IS HERE

THE FALL OF GOP REPUBLICANS JOHN CRASH MCPLANE AND SARAH MOOSE COMMUNITY COLLEGE FAILIN

GOP REPUBLICANS’ FRAUD AND TREASON TEARS DOWN WALL STREET

MCCAIN-KEATING SAVINGS AND LOANS FRAUD / FINANCIAL CRISIS AGAINST AMERICA

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The financial system is still in grave peril, despite Congress's approval of an unprecedented $700 billion bailout.

Unemployment is rising, the economy is slowing, and the question isn't whether we're in for a recession but how long and how deep the recession will be.

Meanwhile, U.S. troops are still fighting in two places -- Iraq and Afghanistan -- where foreign occupations end badly.

The terrorists who struck us on Sept. 11, 2001, have been allowed to regroup within the borders of nuclear-armed Pakistan and are busy plotting new attacks.

Rarely have there been bigger or more urgent issues to talk about in a presidential campaign.

Yet GOP Republican McCain / Failin refuse to talk about these vital issues to America. Why?
GOP Republicans caused this mess and have not a clue of how to get us out of this mess.

The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, nine trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work. Two thirds of that comes from inheritance; interest on interest accumulating to widows / idiot sons; and stock / real estate SPECULATION. It is crap.

Ninety percent of the American public has little or no net worth.

WALL STREET SPECULATORS create nothing. But through SUPER-CAPITALISM (FRAUD), WALL STREET SPECULATORS OWN THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTRY. The Super Rich running America are doing it through Las Vegas style gambling. IT IS CRAP!!!

RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS make the rules (news, war, peace, famine, upheaval).

RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS pick that rabbit out of the hat while the American People wonder how WE GOT INTO THIS MESS.

You are not naive enough to think that we live in a Democracy?

IT'S THE FREE MARKET. And you're a part of it.

GOP REPUBLICAN RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS have that killer instinct. Stick around, GOP REPUBLICAN RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS still have more stealing to do.

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In a Democracy, the AMERICAN PEOPLE suppose to own AMERICA. That's right, the AMERICAN PEOPLE suppose to own AMERICA.

AMERICANS are being robbed by GOP RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND THEIR WHITE HOUSE / CONGRESSIONAL STOOGES with their:

Obscenely high salaries,
Tax havens for the rich,
Tax breaks for the rich,
Tax laws for the rich,
Exclusive secret clubs “Eyes Wide Shut”,
Cooking the books with bribed accounting firms,
Luncheons,
Hunting trips,
Golf tournaments,
Escort services,
Corporate jets,
GOLDEN PARACHUTES.

Thousands of GOP Republican CEOs and their White House / Congressional Stooges are walking away with over $20,000,000 each of stolen money from the U.S. Treasury (AMERICAN PEOPLE). This Is Treason Against the American People.

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CONGRESS YOU NO LONGER REPRESENT WALL STREET SOLELY
CONGRESS YOU NOW REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

THIS IS THE AGENDA
CONGRESS WILL REMOVE ALL GOLDEN PARACHUTES FROM THE BILL
CONGRESS WILL ENSURE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WELL PROTECTED WITHIN THE BILL

CONGRESS WILL PROSECUTE GOP REPUBLICANS ON THE FIX AND WALL STREET SUPER RICH CEO INSIDE TRADERS. THEIR CORPORATE SHARES AND PRIVATE PROPERTIES (DOMESTIC AND ABROAD) WILL BE CONFISCATED AND RETURNED TO THE U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

GREED IS TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

IF CONGRESS FAILS TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEN CONGRESS WILL BE DESOLVED AND A NEW CONGRESS WILL BE PUT IN PLACE TO REFLECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE

SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO CONGRESS IN EXTREMELY SIMPLE TERMS THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE COME FIRST.

THE DAYS WHEN CONGRESS ACTED AS THE STOOGE OF GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS HAS COME TO AN END

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TAKE TOP PRIORITY IN AMERICA

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NO MORE GOLDEN PARACHUTES FOR EXECUTIVE CRIMINALS

GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET CRIMINALS PREPARE FOR HANDCUFFS AND ASSETS CONFISCATION

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THOSE RICH WALL STREET SPECULATING GOP REPUBLICANS WHO DROVE THE BUS INTO THE DITCH, WILL NOT BE TRUSTED TO DRIVE THE BUS OUT OF THAT DITCH.

SUPER RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND THEIR GOP REPUBLICAN HAND PICKED STOOGES IN THE WHITE HOUSE ADMINISTRATION, SENATE, SUPREME COURT, TREASURY, SEC AND CONGRESS TOGETHER HAVE $1 TRILLION WORTH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S ASSETS (DOMESTIC AND HIDDEN ABROAD) THAT MUST BE RETURNED TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.

AMERICA WANTS ITS $1 TRILLION BACK NOW AND CRIMINAL TRIALS FOR ALL INVOLVED IN THIS CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY ARE THE NEW LAWS OF THE LAND.

TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

NO MORE GOLDEN PARACHUTES FOR EXECUTIVE CRIMINALS. GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET CRIMINALS PREPARE FOR HANDCUFFS AND ASSETS CONFISCATION.

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THOSE GOP REPUBLICAN CORPORATE EXECUTIVES WHO STOLE AND SQUANDERED AVERAGE AMERICANS’ MONEY ON HIGH RISK UNSECURED WALL STREET LAS VEGAS STYLE SPECULATIONS SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED WITH MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR COMPENSATION PACKAGES SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS.

THESE GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN CORPORATE EXECUTIVES, SPECULATORS AND CONGRESSIONAL STOOGES SHOULD BE IN HANDCUFFS. ALL OF THEIR ASSETS SHOULD BE CONFISCATED, LIQUIDATED AND RETURNED THE TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

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LET THE TRIALS BEGIN: GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN FLEECING OF AMERICA

CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES VERSUS GOP SUPER RICH GOP REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS

ACT QUICKLY, ACT QUICKLY, ACT QUICKLY
IS NOT THIS THE SAME THING THAT THOSE GOP REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS SAID TO START THE ILLEGAL IRAQ WAR!

LET THE TRIALS BEGIN: CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES VERSUS GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS (BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, PAULSON, MCCAIN) AND THEIR WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALIST SPECULATING FELLOW CONSPIRATOR FRIENDS

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL

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EUROPEANS IGNORED GOP REPUBLICAN MCCAIN-BUSH CALL FOR HELP.

Europeans considered obvious that GOP REPUBLICAN McBush is a moron.

America, Europe and the World need healing through forward thinking Scholar and Community Leader Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law will unite America, Europe and the World in friendship and cooperation.

America the Beautiful United as One America.
No more divisive GOP REPUBLICAN GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION induced failures failures failures
No more black black black black black black black black
No more white white white white white white white white white
No more male male male male male male male male male male
No more female female female female female female female
No more Democratic Democratic Democratic Democratic Democratic
No more GOP REPUBLICAN GOP REPUBLICAN GOP REPUBLICAN GOP REPUBLICAN GOP REPUBLICAN

No more divisive WALL STREET Obscene Super-capitalistic greedy GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION lies

No more Obscene Super-capitalistic sending American jobs overseas to GOP REPUBLICAN sweatshops

We must stop this GOP REPUBLICAN hate GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News, Obscene Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) induced division and hatred

Europe and the World are watching our 2008 Presidential Election to see if we act in dignity and grace or revert back to our penal American colonial, cannibalistic and dumping grounds for old world criminals way.

The daughters of the American Revolution quoted these last words spoken by the judge to their criminal ancestors before boarding the ships,

“For your crimes against humanity you will hang on English gallows or take your chances in the New World American Penal Colonies.”

When the American Colonies were overpopulated with banished criminals (ancestors of the daughters of the American Revolution), the new group of banished criminals were sent to colonized Australia.

We will either unite as ONE United States of America World leader or come in second to the expanding European Union.

McBush and McCain Mission Accomplish.
GOP Republican Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is saying Mission Accomplish to more failures. Perhaps America should dissolve the defunct GOP REPUBLICAN Party for decades of failures and ruins. The World would welcome such progress. Mission Accomplish.

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THIS GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH WALL STREET MELTDOWN IS CRIMINAL MISUSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S MONEY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL (TREASON)

JOHN MCCAIN FEARS SHARING THE STAGE WITH HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR BARACK OBAMA

MOOSE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SARAH FAILIN FEARS SHARING THE STAGE WITH LAW SCHOLAR JOE BIDEN

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Hmmm, let's see. We have a bunch of republicans whining about wanting these CEOs to keep their fortunes, multiple houses and cars, and they want the taxpayers to bail them out. But when the taxpayer wanted help to keep THEIR homes, they were called a bunch of whiners by these SAME republicans and were given NO bailout.

Why are their oversized fortunes more important than the rest of America's modest and undersized ones?

Now, for the last time, once and for all, explain to me how Obama is the elitist and the republicans are "just like you and me." Go ahead. I triple dog dare you.

TREASON TRIALS FOR GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH CRIMINALS

$1Trillion Illegal Iraq War plus $1Trillion Wall Street Fraud equals $2Trillion that
GOP Republicans (Bush, Cheney, Rice, Paulson, Guiliani, McCain) and those contributing members of Congress, Wall Street Speculators, and Cabinet who took part in the most Monumental Fraud against the American People owe to Our National Treasury.

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GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM AT ITS WORST

Executive salaries, CEO bonuses, grand robberies of the U.S. TREASURY in the $MILLIONS, $BILLIONS, and $TRILLIONS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISTS robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE of a $Trillion. RULE OF LAW states that the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be protected and all private properties, money, and wealth domestic and abroad owned by GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISTS taking part in robbing the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) will immediately be confiscated and returned to the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

REPLACE GOP REPUBLICAN CEO GOLDEN PARACHUTES WITH CRIMINAL TRIALS AND PROPERTY CONFISCATION. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL AND THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION WILL BE REINSTATED. LONG LIVE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE. CORPORATE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WILL BE THE LAW OF THE LAND.

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INSIDE JOB AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL:
GOP REPUBLICAN WHITE HOUSE ILLEGAL WARS AND
WALL STREET CRIMINAL DEREGULATED SPECULATIONS

You asked for it and you got it. GOP REPUBLICANS INSIDERS McCain, Bush, Cheney, Paulson, and Rice were hired by Super-Capitalists (Super Wealthy GOP REPUBLICANS) to start Illegal Oil Wars against Oil producing Nations and DEREGULATE (eliminate AMERICAN PEOPLE PROTECTION) the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (White House, Congress, Supreme Court), TREASURY and WALL STREET. These INSIDERS did exactly what they were paid to do. Past GOP REPUBLICANS (Nixon, Reagan, Bush I) and current GOP REPUBLICANS (Bush II, Cheney, Rice, McCain, Paulson) have a credibility factor of zero. Americans no longer believe them, the World has never believed them and now they are done. They came in with the 9/11 attack upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE and leave with the Wall Street $1Trillion attack upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Wave after wave after wave the GOP REPUBLICANS attack the AMERICAN PEOPLE based on the premise of disrespect for anyone who is not a GOP RICH REPUBLICAN. Either you are in their group (GOP RICH REPUBLICAN) or out (debt ridden worker bee / victim). GOP REPUBLICANS view the AMERICAN PEOPLE as gullible sheep perpetually fattened with debt and led to the subhuman existence slaughter. When slavery (free labor) ended GOP RICH REPUBLICANS attacked and enslaved the people of the world through unbalanced trade. Now that foreign sweatshops are demanding better pay and treatment, GOP RICH REPUBLICANS are attacking the AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS. GOP RICH REPUBLICANS are banking on the idea that the AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS are non-thinking drones fat with artificial food, high on Wall Street sponsored imported drugs (legal / illegal), and choked with clutter, debt and noise.

Through massive GOP REPUBLICAN SPONSORED DEREGULATIONS, GOP REPUBLICAN CEOs, Treasury Secretary, Wall Street Speculators, White House Administration, Cabinet Members, and their insider friends each walked away with more than $20,000,000 annually of money stolen directly from the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE). After eight years of GRAND FRAUD AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, thousands of GOP REPUBLICANS ROBBED OUR UNITED STATES TREASURY OF $1TRILLION (ACTS OF TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE).

The AMERICAN PEOPLE will hold ALL GOP REPUBLICANS INVOLVED in these ACTS OF TREASON accountable before a TRIAL. ALL GOP REPUBLICANS INVOLVED in these ACTS OF TREASON will have ALL OF THEIR PROPERTIES (corporate and private, domestic and foreign sheltered) CONFISCATED, SOLD and RETURNED to OUR NATIONAL TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE). The UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION (WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE) shall prevail, despite the criminal efforts of GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPER-CAPITALIST CRIMINALS.

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CONGRESS WILL NOT ADJOURN UNTIL AFTER THE GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY FIX THEIR COLOSSAL MESS

GOP (GOOD OLDBOY PRIVATEERS)

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Britain has nationalized its banks. The U.S. has nationalized Wall Street and will do the same for U.S. Oil if it hits $6.50 a gallon in two years. The Treasury and Oil are too crucial for national defense to be left in the hands of self serving speculators' private greed. The United States greed based society is over. We will copy Britain or Germany’s mixed economy system based heavily on the People government oversight. Speculators and gamblers cannot be trusted with the American economy. Wrong is wrong and wolves cannot be hired to protect cash cows. Today you can gamble in Las Vegas with your credit card (money that you don’t have); Wall Street high leverage speculation is the same thing.

Three weeks ago, some Americans stupidly said that we don’t need to consider World Opinion during the 2008 presidential election. It is now clear that America and The World are closely connected and that we need to consider how the World perceives our decisions. The World does not like John McCain and will not cooperate with McCain. Europeans and the World view John McCain as an old relic bent on returning the World to perpetual hostility.

No one wants another Cold War, except McCain. Failin’s childish perceptions are not worth mentioning, especially with the World watching and laughing at McCain’s choices. Russia does not want another Expensive Cold War, but it will play ball if McCain kicks off. While Bush and McCain are building military bases in Poland, Russia is speaking with Latin American Oil Nations about refining and cutting out U.S. Oil Companies. Next Russia will build military bases in Latin American in response to U.S. bases in Eastern Europe. McCain and Wall Street weapons manufacturers are the only ones who want to profit from a new Cold War. In reality, no one benefits from a new Cold War. The American People, Russian People and World People will be injured by a new Cold War. Expect European demands to be rid of all U.S. bases in Europe. The American People, Russian People and World People want peace and cooperation from the United States led by Barack Obama.

The World loves Barack Obama and has signed a letter of intent to cooperate with America under Barack’s leadership. Throughout the World young presidents are emerging and none of them want to return to the bad days of the Cold War (bomb shelters, high interest rates, disproportionate military spending, nuclear buildup, general fear). Nobody wants the return of the Cold War, except McCain and Wall Street weapons manufacturers. The American People are nationalizing Wall Street to prevent weapons manufacturers from dictating unfavorable terms to our economy. Again the American middle class must see pass their ignorance and the emperor with no clothes (Bush, McCain, Failin, Guiliani). Americans must vote for it’s best interest, which includes a favorable World Opinion. America And The World Will Vote Obama to avert financial and military catastrophes.

Let’s not forget that China, Saudi Arabia and India together hold over $1 Trillion in American currency. Do you think that China, Saudi Arabia and India have votes in the 2008 American election? The CEOs of American companies and Wall Street Banks heavily invested with funds from China, Saudi Arabia and India know that foreign governments will be exercising their strong votes in our election. You can thank McCain deregulations and GOP Republican American job outsourcing for dissipating Our American votes.

Obama has 8 years experience as a State Senator, 4 years in the US Senate, taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, etc. Obama’s very high intellectual capacity allows him to analyze situations and make sound decisions. How can you even compare Failin’s GED from Moose Community College credentials to these?

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GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN WALL STREET DEREGULATIONS
GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN ALSO WANTED TO PRIVATIZE SOCIAL SECURITY (BONEHEAD)
GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN sponsored landmark legislation in 1999 that removed the walls between banks, investment firms and insurance companies. GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN bill allowed a company like AIG to expand beyond its traditional insurance business (which is still profitable) into exotic new extremely high risk products that brought the company down and created this colossal mess.

WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
THE GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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Average Americans are becoming poorer, because GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET super rich SPECULATORS and corporate CEOs are paying themselves, business partners, friends, and family members at least $20,000,000 annually from MONEY STOLEN FROM THE U.S. TREASURY. These major crimes committed by WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND CEOs have gone beyond greed and into acts of treason against the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Seize the stolen money and properties valued in the $TRILLIONS back from these super criminals for attacking America. Those stolen $MILLIONS / $BILLIONS / $TRILLIONS belong to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

RULE OF LAW states that the People of the United States will be defended. Those who attack American Citizens will be prosecuted. WALL STREET SPECULATORS and CORPORATE CEOs dictatorship over the AMERICAN PEOPLE is over. Average Americans are not going to accept WALL STREET CORPORATE CRIMES anymore. Rights of Citizen and Average Workers of the United States will be enforced. The AMERICAN PEOPLE will always come before corporate interests, because Americans Love America more than Wall Street Speculators love greed.

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GERMANY, FRANCE, ENGLAND HAVE GREATER CITIZEN-WORKERS’ RIGHTS, TRANSPARENCY, OVERSIGHT, AND DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY THAN GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET RUN AMERICA. AMERICA WILL HONOR AMERICAN CITIZENS WITH DEMOCRATIC WORKERS’ RIGHTS, TRANSPARENCY, OVERSIGHT, AND DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY.

NO MORE WALL STREET DICTATORSHIP OVER CONGRESS
NO MORE WALL STREET IMPORTATION OF ILLEGAL CARTEL DRUGS
NO MORE WALL STREET MASS GUN SALES
NO MORE WALL STREET ILLEGAL WARS
NO MORE WALL STREET WILD SPECULATION AND IRRESPONSIBLE LEVERAGE
NO MORE WALL STREET SOFT PORNOGRAPHY ON PRIME TIME TELEVISION
NO MORE WALL STREET MASS VIOLENCE ON PRIME TIME TELEVISION
NO MORE WALL STREET HATE RADIO
NO MORE WALL STREET UNAUTHORIZED SPYING ON AMERICAN CITIZENS
NO MORE WALL STREET ILLEGAL CREDIT SCORES
NO MORE WALL STREET OVERSEAS TAX HAVENS
NO MORE WALL STREET OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS
NO MORE WALL STREET BUYING AMERICAN POLITICIANS

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GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET $TRILLION FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

Direct impact of GOP McCain sponsored deregulations
Bankrupt and floundering
Failure of the investment bank
Government's takeover

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET's business model has collapsed

Greed and fear routinely govern GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET financial markets and GLOBAL CRISIS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET (giant investment houses, brokerage firms, hedge funds, "private equity" firms) irresponsibly TRADED the savings of average Americans (placed LAS VEGAS STYLE BETS on extremely high risk stocks, bonds, and other securities).

DUBIOUS MORTGAGES were PACKAGED into BONDS and SOLD and TRADED. Investment houses had huge incentives to increase LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWING).

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET compensation is heavily skewed toward annual bonuses, reflecting the profits traders and managers earned in the tune of lavish base salaries and obscenely high annual bonuses of $20,000,000.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET relies heavily on OBSCENELY HIGH LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWING). $3 Trillion (stocks, bonds, other securities) backed by only $80 billion in shareholders' equity while the $2.8 Trillion was LEVERAGE (BORROWED).

Leverage (huge borrowing) can create huge debts (huge principal and interest obligations)

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET is a manic machine for gambling.
Traders and money managers are given huge incentives to do whatever would increase short-term profits.

For decades, GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN sponsored legislation that broadly deregulated WALL STREET banking and insurance industries.

GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN swept away Consumer Protection legislation and opened the way for a less restricted high risk financial marketplace.

While the GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET boom continued, government (White House, Congress, Supreme Court) looked the other way.

GOP REPUBLICAN Congress resisted tougher regulation and permitted WALL STREET to run out of control at obscenely high LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWED MONEY) RATIOS perpetrating intentional fraud against the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET leaders intentionally deceived customers and lenders into taking hazardous risks for short-term rewards regardless of the long-term dangers to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Mortgages went bad. The powerful high leverage went into reverse. Losses eroded firms' capital bases and raised doubts about their survival.

Financial firms took major stupid and wasteful risks that severely damaged the American Economy and impeded economic recovery.

GOP REPUBLICAN STOCK MARKET $TRILLION FRAUD has deepened consumers' pessimism, fear and reluctance to spend. There may be more failures of FINANCIAL FIRMS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET financial crises resemble the GOP REPUBLICAN illegal miscalculated war.

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How were we ever made to believe that the now-collapsing GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET model ever made sense? Common sense should have told us that making RISKY BETS with HUGE AMOUNTS of BORROWED MONEY was a DANGEROUS GAME; if the bets pay off you make money beyond your wildest dreams, but if they go bad you face utter ruin.

Common sense should have told us that betting fortunes on meaningless fluctuations in stock, bond or currency values (McCain sponsored deregulated hedge funds) was about as productive as a trip to Las Vegas. Common sense should have told us that buying and selling exotic securities based on other securities based on bundles of mortgages that were treated like mere numbers on a balance sheet (no recognition that the whole iffy construct was based on real people living in real houses that they might or might not be able to afford) was not an intelligent endeavor.

Somehow, we all forgot that "HIGHLY LEVERAGED" is just another way of saying "DEEPLY INDEBTED." Now we've had a wake-up call, and maybe the erstwhile Masters of the Universe will have to stop playing with imaginary money and go back to using the real stuff.

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DEMOCRACY RISING RALLIES TO EDUCATE AND EMPOWER AMERICAN CITIZENS

COMMERCIAL ALERT AND CITIZEN RIGHTS
(PROTECT AMERICAN FAMILIES, COMMUNITIES, U.S. DEMOCRACY FROM WALL STREET FRAUD AND CORPORATE CORRUPTION)

THE RICH ARE STEALING AND SELLING AMERICA: STOP THEM!!!

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RULE OF LAW WILL ENFORCE CONFISCATION OF ALL GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS’ AND CEOS’ PERSONAL PROPERTIES RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ECONOMY’S MELTDOWN. All money and properties of the Super Rich CEOs and WALL STREET Speculators domestic and abroad will be confiscated and returned to the United States TREASURY and the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
OUR GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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GOP REPUBLICAN LIARS SUPER RICH WALL STREET GET RICH QUICK GREEDY
BILLION DOLLARS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS
REPACKAGED AND SOLD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN LIARS SUPER RICH WALL STREET ROBBER BARONS
COMMIT TREASON AND GRAND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
OUR GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH FAILIN’S REMARKS

Comments uttered by Sarah Failin has angered Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton who described Sarah Failin as an opportunist with no qualifications. Senator Hillary Clinton also stated that John McCain and Sarah Failin’s records on women’s rights are abominable. The country cannot withstand anymore George Bush failures cloaked in McCain/Failin. Asking Sarah Failin to become Vice President is like asking the grazing moose behind her trailer to pilot the shuttle.

National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorsed Pro-Women’s Rights ticket Obama / Biden for their outstanding work bettering the lives of women.

During her first term as Mayor, Failin went on an intense firing spree by sacking, or requesting resumes and resignation letters from the chief of police, finance director, public works director, and librarian.

In October of 1996, Failin consulted the city librarian about censoring "objectionable" books. The librarian was shocked and responded that the books were selected "on the basis of national selection criteria of libraries this size" and would resist all efforts to ban or remove any books from the library. A few months later Emmons received a letter from Failin stating that she had been terminated from her job. Emmons was reinstated the next day after public outcry.

Long time Alaskan acquaintance described Sarah Failin as a malicious, conniving opportunist, a reckless spender, and power abuser. Initially Failin supported the 'bridge to nowhere' project and even wore t-shirts that supported the project. When she realized that the project was not supported by the public she decided to back off.

Failin is an avid pro-lifer. Teen pregnancies are a major dilemma facing the nation today. The government spent $1 billion in supporting abstinence-only sex education programs since 1996. In the case of Failin's daughter, such programs are failing us. Failin is comfortable with giving her own daughter a choice, but wants to take away that choice from the rest of the nation.

By picking a young, attractive and vivacious woman as his partner in crime, McCain hoped to pull in all the disappointed Clinton supporters. This was his crucial mistake, because Sarah Failin is the antithesis of Hillary Clinton. She stands against women rights and would reverse women's rights by fifty years. Women are not as gullible as McCain and his advisors had hoped that they would be. Just because McCain placed a young woman in front of the crowd does not mean women will automatically vote for her without any question. Women will soon realize that Sarah Failin is an anti-choice, homophobic, polar bear, wolf, moose, and deer killing machine.

Sarah Failin is incapable of writing a speech. The speech given by her at the Republican National Convention was written long before she was considered for McCain’s running mate by the computer. McCain had never heard of Failin until after the computer printed her name one day before his announcement.

The thought that Sarah Failin will do anything in the White House is unsettling, because she is a unhinged lunatic who will mess up and give the public the perception that women cannot be in power. Hillary Rodham Clinton and women throughout the country are very angry that Sarah “moose hunter” Failin is in such an important position. Four out of Sarah’s five best friends have committed to Barack Obama.

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GOP REPUBLICANS ARE AUTHORITARIANS WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH OR DEMOCRACY. GOP REPUBLICAN ONLY INTERESTS ARE POWER AND MONEY.

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GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM AT ITS WORST

Executive salaries, CEO bonuses, grand robberies of the U.S. TREASURY in the $MILLIONS, $BILLIONS, and $TRILLIONS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISTS robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE of a $Trillion. RULE OF LAW states that the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be protected and all private properties, money, and wealth domestic and abroad owned by GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISTS taking part in robbing the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) will immediately be confiscated and returned to the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

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PAILIN RETURNED HOME TO 2,000 ALASKAN PROTESTERS WHO CHEERFULLY CHANTED "O-BAM-AH.

Gov. Sarah Pailin returned home to 2,000 protesters outside the Anchorage library who wanted to correct the widespread impression that the Last Frontier endorses her candidacy.

"Last week a group of women were sitting around talking about this perception that all of Alaska supports Sarah Failin. We apparently hit a nerve and started a movement,"

A sense of festival obtained. There was a woman in a polar bear suit representing "Polar Bear Moms Say: No Palin." Drivers on 36th Avenue saw a little girl waving a sign "Don't Ban My Books."

"My mom is from Alaska. She's a working mother. She's good looking," said Nolan. "So she seems to be qualified to be vice president."

Asking Sarah Failin to become the Vice President is like asking the grazing moose behind her trailer to pilot the shuttle.

Sarah Palin Protesters Held Signs Reading:

Bush In A Skirt
Failin Be Failin
Jesus Was a Community Organizer
Pailin Failin: Thanks But No Thanks
Smearing Alaska's Good Name One Scandal @ a Time
Candidate To Nowhere
Rape Kits Should Be Free
Voted For Her Once: Never Again!
Community Organizers are the Real Patriots
Barbies for War
I Shall Not Be Pandered To
Give Pailin Your Vote AND Your Draft Age Child
Sarah Pailin: So Far Right She's Wrong
Alaska Is Not Frisco
Coat Hangers for McCain
Sarah Pailin, Undoing 150 Years of American Feminism
Hockey Mama for Obama (on a hockey stick)

Cheerful chants of "O-bam-ah.

National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorses Obama / Biden For Their Pro-Women Rights Stance

McCain / Palin are rejected for their anti-women stance and votes against Women Rights

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PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE PRESIDENTIAL CHOICES

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'

Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, and its a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer,
become President of the Harvard Law Review,
create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters,
spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor,
spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people,
become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee,
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13
million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign
Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees,
you don't have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years
on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less
than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000
people, and cook caribou/grizzly/wolf stew, then you're qualified to become the country's second
highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters,
all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress,
and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month,
you're a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including
the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only,
with no other option in sex education in your state's school system
while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm
to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family,
your family's values don't represent America's.

If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI conviction
and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and
once was a member of a group that advocated: the secession of Alaska from the USA,
your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorses Obama / Biden For Their Pro-Women Rights Stance

McCain / Palin are rejected for their anti-women stance and votes against Women Rights

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BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN SUPPORTS BARACK OBAMA

LONDON - BRITISH PRIME MINISTER GORDON BROWN voiced support for UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BARACK OBAMA, saying he would help Americans struggling with an economic downturn.

In a move seen by some British media as a break with a political convention requiring foreign leaders to remain neutral ahead of US elections, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN praised MR. OBAMA as a fellow “progressive politician” who would help ordinary Americans in tough times. With eight weeks to go before the presidential election, MR. OBAMA and his Republican rival John McCain are neck-and-neck in domestic opinion polls.

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN described the race for the White House as “electrifying” and said: “It is the DEMOCRATS who are generating the ideas to help people through more difficult times.”

“To help prevent people from losing their home, BARACK OBAMA has proposed a Foreclosure Prevention Fund to increase emergency pre-foreclosure counselling, and help families facing repossession,” he wrote in an article in The Monitor magazine, a monthly political publication.

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2008 UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL RACE

DEMOCRAT HARVARD LAW VS. GOP REPUBLICAN S

OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW AND PRESIDENT OF HARVARD LAW REVIEW
BIDEN OF SYRACUSE LAW

MCCRASH OF NAVY ACADEMY LAST PLACE
FAILIN OF MOOSE COLLEGE

GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

STOP DESTRUCTIVE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM OIL SPECUALTARS (OIL MILLIONAIRES BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, MCCAIN, PALIN)

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE
NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE
NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE

WHY A BARREL OF OIL ILLEGALLY SHOT UP FROM $24 TO $145 DURING THE GOP REPUBLICAN (MCCAIN, BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, PALIN) ADMINISTRATION

GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH I OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH II OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN CHENEY OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN RICE OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN GUILIANI OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL STOCKHOLDER
GOP REPUBLICAN MCCAIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL STOCKHOLDER
GOP REPUBLICAN PALIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL COMMISSIONER AND OIL STOCKHOLDER

TOGETHER WHAT DO THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON?

THEY ARE ALL GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRES AND OIL STOCKHOLDERS

GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK

CAN YOU SAY GOP REPUBLICAN CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, ROB OUR U.S. TREASURY, AND SPECULATE FOR OBSCENELY HIGH PROFIT RETURNS ON WALL STREET OIL STOCKS

WAKE UP AMERICA, BECAUCE THE WORLD ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT THE CRIMINAL GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY OF CONSPIRATORS

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE AS A VITAL RESOURCE

AMERICA AND AMERICANS FIRST

NO MORE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET OOOOOIIIIILLLLL SPECULATION AND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

IF YOU SAY THAT YOU LOVE AMERICA, THEN PROVE IT AND STOP THE GOP REPUBLICAN RAIDERS UPON OUR U.S. TREASURY AND OUTSOURCING OF U.S. JOBS

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GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.

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HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN’S REMARKS

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Will the GOP Republican get rich by selling America party take credit for any of their disasters? GOP Republicans are successful at failing and hurting OUR COUNTRY in the eyes of the WORLD. Can we really afford to ignore what the ENTIRE WORLD THINKS OF US?

How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by Barack Obama? Extremely favorable.

How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by John McCain? Extremely negative.

FOUR MORE YEARS ANYONE?

Eventually, Americans will realize that doing the same thing (electing GOP Republicans) will not yield different results (stock market disasters, economic disasters, world view disasters, failed foreign policy disasters, failed domestic policies disasters).

Spraying perfume on a new GOP Republican Pig will not create a bright and shiny candidate. Garbage in equal garbage out. GOP Republican garbage in yield (stock market, economic, foreign relations, domestic policies) garbage out.

McCain has perpetually been a failure from school until now.
Palin has perpetually been a failure (with a hillbilly hockey mom accent) from day one until now. Her bear hunting Arctic outback kids prove it.

Do you really need someone to tell you these basic facts? Under the Freedom of Information Act, all of this information is available free if you choose to type in the questions.

Lets prove to the Europeans and the World that we are not stupid, because they think that we are after two terms of Forrest Gump Bush.

Crash Every Plane McCain and Hillbilly Trailer Palin are not reflective of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

If Palin had a brain, then she would have considered the immense responsibilities demanded of the Office of the United States Vice President or President; and politely declined McCain’s crack induced invitation. GOP Republican Party is a joke.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.

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REPORT SAYS GOP REPUBLICAN OIL AGENCY RAN AMOK

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE OIL MARKETING GROUP

GOP REPUBLICAN Government officials in charge of collecting BILLIONS of dollars worth of royalties from OIL and gas companies accepted gifts, steered contracts to favored clients and engaged in drug use and illicit sex with employees of the energy firms, federal investigators reported.

Investigators from the Interior Department's inspector general's office said more than a dozen employees, including the former director of the OIL royalty program, took meals, ski trips, sports tickets and golf outings from industry representatives. The report alleges that the former director, also netted more than $30,000 from improper outside work.

The report from Inspector General contains fresh allegations about the practices at the beleaguered royalty-in-kind program of Interior's Minerals Management Service, which last year collected more than $4 billion worth of OIL and natural gas from companies given contracts to tap energy on federal and Indian lands and offshore. The revelations come as Congress is set to consider opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and areas off the coast of Florida for drilling.

The royalty-in-kind program, based near Denver, allows energy companies to pay the government in OIL and gas, rather than cash, for the privilege of drilling on government land. It has been the subject of multiple investigations since 2006 by the Interior Department's secretary, its inspector general, the Justice Department and Congress for alleged mismanagement and conflicts of interest.

In the report released yesterday, investigators said they "discovered a culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" in which employees accepted gratuities "with prodigious frequency." The report cited one e-mail from a Shell Pipeline representative asking a woman in the royalty office to attend "tailgating festivities" at a Houston Texans football game: "You're invited . . . have you and the girls meet at my place at 6am for bubble baths and final prep."

Besides Shell, the energy company employees mentioned in the report worked for Chevron, Hess and Gary-Williams Energy. The social outings detailed in the report included alcohol-, cocaine- and marijuana-filled parties where certain employees of the Minerals Management Service were nicknamed the "MMS Chicks" by the energy employees. The companies paid for federal workers to attend football and baseball games, PGA Tour events, Colorado ski trips, paintball outings and "treasure hunts," investigators found.

"The OIL INDUSTRY holds shocking sway over the ADMINISTRATION and even KEY FEDERAL EMPLOYEES,". "This is why we must not allow BIG OIL'S AGENDA to be jammed through CONGRESS."

The current director of the Minerals Management Service, said that he takes the report "very seriously".
Employees identified in the report told investigators that they didn't think ethics rules applied to them because of their "unique" role in the agency and that they needed to socialize with industry representatives for "market intelligence," according to the report. Those employees, some of whom have been transferred to different offices, have been recommended for internal administrative action.

The inspector general's release comprised three separate reports, including one devoted to the program's director. It alleges that Smith improperly worked part time for Geomatrix Consultants, an Oakland, Calif.-based environmental and engineering firm, and marketed the company to government clients.

Additionally, the report said that the director had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a subordinate whom he paid to buy cocaine, promising her a bonus in return. The director admitted to the sexual encounter.

The director, who now works for a private OIL company in Denver, did not respond to requests for comment. Investigators referred their findings to federal prosecutors.

Justice officials also declined to comment on their decision about the criminal case against the highest-ranking official named in the report director of the Minerals Management Service, who worked in Washington. She is accused of improperly arranging a million-dollar deal for two retired employees.

The wife of the procurement policy administrator for the WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, retired from government service Jan. 31. She declined to comment on the report. She told investigators she had a "personal issue. The Justice Department's decision to charge created a rift with Interior officials.

One of the two retired employees pleaded guilty in July to a federal conflict-of-interest charge related to the investigation. Another employee has been under investigation for similar conflict-of-interest allegations.

Before he left, Mayberry created a job for himself by writing the job description and the criteria for selecting the winning bidder, court documents show. He started a company out of his Texas home and was awarded a $150,000 contract in June 2003. He later hired Dial, the report said. Mayberry's firm collected $788,000 worth of contracts.

The royalty-in-kind program, which started as a small pilot project a decade ago, has been touted as a way to simplify the way OIL AND GAS COMPANIES pay for the right to drill on federal land and offshore. Instead of calculating the profit from a well, they can simply give the government one-eighth to one-sixth of whatever they take from the ground.

Revenue rose quickly, from $1.5 billion in 2004 to $4.3 billion last fiscal year. But the growth occurred "in an environment with relatively unstructured in-house oversight," the congressionally convened Royalty Policy Committee said in a December report. Previous reports have said that companies were allowed to revise their million-dollar bids for projects indiscriminately, that government workers routinely failed to seek out legal advice on complicated deals and that the agency used outdated computers and a $150 million software program that resulted in royalty money going uncollected.

A lawyer who represented states and tribes entitled to a cut of the royalties, said it was nearly impossible to get accurate numbers from the agency. "They kept hemming and hawing," she said.

In late 2006 questions arose over its handling of leases written in 1998 and 1999 that allowed major OIL companies drilling in the Gulf of Mexico to avoid BILLIONS of dollars in royalty payments.

Former Interior Department auditors accused the agency of failing to bill companies. "We weren't allowed to audit them. It was disturbing," said an auditor who sued the federal government for not collecting royalties. "You couldn't see what was going on."

The minerals agency director said that the harm done by the royalty employees was to public trust and TREASURY, and acknowledged that financial considerations were given to firms that gave favors to federal employees, and he said the contracts will be audited.

Do you really question the motives of GOP Republicans Criminals? America must Immediately Nationalize U.S. OIL and Gas For National Defense.

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DEMOCRAT HARVARD LAW VS. GOP REPUBLICAN CRASH JET AND MUDVILLE

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U.S. Presidents From Harvard Law
John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford Hayes
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin Roosevelt
John Kennedy
Barack Obama

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President and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama Contrast With Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain

Growing Up

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was privileged, given everything by both parents, and worked for nothing.

Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama grew up poor, raised by his Irish-American single white mother and Irish-American white working class maternal grand parents. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama was given nothing and worked for everything.

Education

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was a and graduated last in his class. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain and McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire share failed academic records. He partied constantly and dependent on favor handouts from his high ranking father and grandfather. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain earned nothing on his own similar to McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain is also Internet illiterate which slows down his information processing capacity. Is this good for the country?

Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama worked hard and became PRESIDENT OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. Everything that Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama accomplished he did on his own. Irish-American Barack Obama’s HARVARD Scholarship ranks among the best. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s hard work represents the American Dream.

Community Service

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain poor studies translated into poor performances in the military where he crashed several planes and recklessly endangered the lives of others. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was never trusted by his colleagues nor loved by his peers. The highlight of Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s career was getting shot down and becoming a prisoner. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain served his country by getting handouts from his guards. Getting handouts seems to be Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s modem of operations. WillObscenelyRich Crash Every Plane McCain, who finished 894th out of 899 at the Naval Academy and who lost five jets, return competence to the White House? To lose one plane over Vietnam may be a heroic tragedy; to lose five planes here and there is carelessness.

Irish-American Barack Obama turned down large profits after graduating from HARVARD LAW to serve the community in Chicago where help was needed most. The community learned to trust and love Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama for his dedication to public service.

Marriage

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain walked out on his family to chase a younger woman who was on drugs, embezzling money from her company, stealing, and facing criminal charges, until her privileged family saved her from trial. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s dysfunctional family represents chaos and lack of respect when he curses her in public.

Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama married an intelligent IVY LEAGUE attorney and adores his beautiful young daughters. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s First Family represents what America is striving for. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama has always been surrounded by and still maintains a great respect for women (Irish mother, Irish grandmother, sister, wife, and two daughters). If anyone is in tune with and favors the betterment of working American women, then it’s Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

International Diplomacy

The World wants no more chaotic McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire- Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain.

The World loves Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama and will follow America’s leadership behind Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

If Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain had to make another emergency landing on a deserted island with Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama onboard as one of the passengers, then it is safe to say that Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain would assume the role of Gilligan, while Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama would assume the role of the professor.

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Hillary Clinton Will Destroy Sarah Palin From Mooseville College.

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Navy pilot John Sidney Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III was being held prisoner of war. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [ Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

When the communist learned that Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat. Since Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain got 28 medals, that equals out to a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.

Former naval officer and the owner of an OOIIILLLL-trading company that inked defense contracts worth $1 billion is the modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain is receiving large donations.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.

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Barak Obama proved why November's presidential election will end in a 50-state sweep. John Crash Every Plane McCain has no chance. It's like George Bush climbing into the ring with Mike Tyson; one thundering left hook and the Crawford Caligula would be sprawled across the canvas. "No mas"! The same fate awaits the crabby senator from Arizona. The polls are skewed to look like there's a political horse-race going on. There isn't. It's a complete rout. There's one well-toned thoroughbred striding from venue to venue electrifying the ever-increasing throngs, and one doddering, old mare limping towards the glue-factory. Someone should put a stop to it before Crash Every Plane McCain gets hurt.

At the Victory Column in Berlin's Tiergarten, Obama extracted Old Glory from the burn-pile and gave Brand America a desperately needed shot of adrenaline. 200,000 ecstatic Germans jammed the streets in what turned out to be the political shindig of the year. Many of them were waving American flags and chanting, "Obama, Obama, Obama". It was like Jack Kennedy had risen from his moldy sepulcher and made his way across the pond for one last rousing ovation. Obama has the very same affect on crowds. Its a gift and he knows how to use it to great advantage.

"People of Berlin, people of the world, this is our moment, this is our time," Obama boomed. "I know my country has not perfected itself, we've made our share of mistakes and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions. But the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another."

What can we say about Obama's oratory skills that hasn't already been said? He is one of those unique characters who knows how to tap into the collective psyche and put them under his spell. He is the closest thing to a Pied Piper we've seen in the last half century. Whatever one thinks of his politics, his speeches are a welcome reprieve from the simian blabbering of President Dimwit.

"I speak to you not as a candidate for president, but as a citizen; a proud citizen of the United States and a fellow citizen of the world." (Roaring applause)

JOHN Crash Every Plane McCain: Maverick or Freak?
Have you taken a look at the crowds at a Crash Every Plane McCain event. Usually, there aren't any. Typically, there are more journalists and cameramen then people; and even they look bored. It's the truth. He generates no enthusiasm at all. None. He may be the most uninspiring, tedious, pure-vanilla candidate of all time; a complete dud. I challenge anyone to recite from memory anything John Crash Every Plane McCain has ever said in his 40 years in office. Time's up! When Crash Every Plane McCain begins to talk, its a signal for women to pull out the nail-files and for men to figure out how they're going to get out of cutting the lawn this week. Really. No one listens.

And the people that do manage to drag themselves to his speeches out of a sense of obligation are (you guessed it) scowling white guys with baseball caps pulled tightly over their ears or nearly-ambulatory Korea-era Vets who think the United Nations is a communist front-group that's planning to air-drop blue-helmets into Duluth to take over the United States. Tin-foil hats anyone?

Popularity and charisma, how does one survive in politics with neither. That's the question, and it may be the biggest mystery of Crash Every Plane McCain's candidacy. He's just not a likable guy. No one ever talks about hanging out and having a beer with John Crash Every Plane McCain, because they know that he might go "Jackie Chan" and start busting the place up. And he's utterly impossible to listen to. His high-pitched squeaky voice is about two octaves higher than a dog-whistle and twice as annoying. So how is he going to beat Obama. It's a total mismatch.

Crash Every Plane McCain is the perfect candidate for the GOP Republic party that has completely collapsed. He's like the "Jolly Roger" on the front of an iodine bottle; Brand X. In 2000, the Republican Party boasted it was the "party of ideas". What ideas? The Republican Party has never had ideas because the corporate mandarins and blue-blooded kleptocrats that run the party are suspicious of ideas, ideology, doctrine, philosophy or anything else that veers from their primary objectives of crushing the poor, despoiling the environment, carpet-bombing brown people wherever they may be, and enriching themselves. That's all they care about. The task of the right-wing think-tanks is to treat "war and tax cuts" like they're ideas. They're not. But war and tax cuts ARE the two foundation blocks of the Republican Party. There's nothing else; there never has been. Don't look for ideas; there aren't any. GOP Republican get rich quick by defrauding the AMERICAN PEOPLE, robbing the National TREASURY, sending American jobs overseas, and raising the national debt.

Hold Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Crash Every Plane McCain accountable for the crimes they've committed during their time in office.

Obama is not a candidate; he's a phenomenon. Obama is an explosive, vital, charismatic politician. When he speaks people feel better about themselves and their country. And, they're more hopeful about the future, too. That's what makes him unbeatable.

Crash Every Plane McCain, on the other hand, is the perfect embodiment of his party; a rusty, broken-down hulk that's been stripped of its engine, its fenders and all its moving parts. Even the steering wheel is gone. It's a dead-loss; nothing is salvageable.

Crash Every Plane McCain is in way over his head. This election is going to be a real embarrassment for him. It's too bad. He should be back at the Phoenix Rest Home shooing kids off the front lawn instead of waiting for the ax to fall in November. It's a rotten way to end a career.

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GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

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GOP REPUBLICAN PLANE/TRAILER WRECK MCCAIN/PALIN

With Wall Street OOOIIIIILLLLLL stocks paid under the table to Sarah Palin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner from OOOOOIIIIIILLLLLLL Millionaires Crash Every Plane McCain, Bush, Cheney, Rice and Guiliani; it appears that Sarah Palin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner, her large family, dogs, cats, chickens, and hogs can now move out of their trailer. Guiliani went from GOP front runner to anonymous polygamist. Guiliani is the biggest joke and shares home dysfunction with Bush, Cheney, Rice, Crash Every Plane McCain and now Sarah trailer Palin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner. OOOOIIIIILLLLLLL MILLIONS stolen from Our TREASURY did not help their dysfunctional families.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich by robbing the American TREASURY and outsourcing American jobs party has officially been dissolved. Plane wreck McCrash and Train wreck Trailer Palin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioners have destroyed the already dysfunctional GOP Republican Party of Corporate Welfare Thieves.

Democrats and Independents are the official parties. Blessings to America and the World for peaceful cooperation and the elimination of unjust wars for GOP profits. The People First Party has arrived and Rich Wall Street millionaires will no longer use the AMERICAN PEOPLE as their cattle. Americans today are all free independent Democratic People in pursuit of happiness in the spirit of cooperation.

“We joined up with an altruistic vision of promoting freedom and justice around the world,” said Vince Emanuel, a Marine lance corporal who did a tour of duty in Iraq from August 2004 to April 2005, explaining why he was marching and protesting the GOP Republican Convention.

“Except we saw the killing of innocent people and the destruction of property ... for a lot of us it was very disenfranchising."

The veterans group tried to hand a message to the campaign of GOP Republican John Crash Every Plane McCain calling for a withdrawal from Iraq, reparations for the Iraqi people, and full medical benefits for veterans. No one from John Crash Every Plane McCain’s campaign received them.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.

GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

Prerequisite for the United Stats President and Vice President is advance degrees, especially in Constitutional Law. McCain and hillbilly Palin are excluded from the highest offices in the World. The debates will be fun: Harvard Law vs. Crash Jet and Mudville.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.

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What has WALL STREET SUPER-CAPITALISM brought you besides:

Cluttered homes full of useless crap

Semi-illiterate teenage sons on alcohol and drugs

Semi-illiterate teenage daughters on drugs and having unwanted babies

Selfish lifestyles mimicking immoral rich people with off the chart divorce rates

Depressed people living alone and addicted to church on TV or pornography

Guns deregulation freeing children to murder each other in school and after school

Prime time television soft pornography for the kids to mimic

Daughters dressing like prostitutes

Sons dressing like homeless

GREED GREED GREED steal money from your neighbors through wild WALL STREET speculations

SELL SELL SELL BUY BUY BUY (It is all enslaving crap)

Super Rich becomes more Super Rich, while the middle class becomes poor

College graduates cannot afford a small home and must live in their parents’ basements

Clinton left the United States with a surplus

GOP Republicans have stolen all of the Treasury surplus plus another $3Trillion. Let the trials and confiscation (America versus Super Rich GOP Republican Criminals) begin

The American People will prevail over Super Rich Greedy Lawless Super Rich GOP Republicans

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HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PAILIN’S REMARKS

Hillary wants to know if Pailin wants to run the United States in the same manner that she and McCain ran their dysfunctional families. With the nomination of hockey mom and desperate housewife Sarah Failin, John McCain has officially transformed the defunct GOP Republican Party into a circus complete with a lipstick wearing pig clown displaying the IQ of a cockatoo. While Sarah Falin is campaigning, Alaska is missing its village idiot in charge of guarding the Russian border. It is not very patriotic to leave your front porch, while the Russians are swimming across the Bering Strait. Sarah Palin’s son Track leaves for the military after impregnating his mother and sister. Hillary added that Sarah Failin’s pathological lies, affairs with Todd’s business partners, shootings of endangered species, and unprofessional name calling led to the five letter word pertaining to an Arctic hillbilly (P A L I N).

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OBAMA / BIDEN NEW DEAL TO SAVE AMERICA

Enforced Banking Regulations
Enforced Stock Trade Regulations
Corporate Transparency and Accountability
Infrastructure Repairs
Education Reform
College Tuition Assistance Through Domestic Peace Corp
Workers Rights
National Healthcare
Removing Wall Street as the prime financier of imported illegal drugs
Stopping Importation of Illegal Drugs
Stopping Illegal Drug Trade
Full Employment
High Speed Trains linking East Coast Cities (Washington, Philadelphia, New York, Hartford, Boston)
High Speed Trains linking West Coast Cities (San Diego, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, Monterey, San Francisco, Sacramento)
High Speed Trains linking East Coast to Midwest (Philadelphia, Harrisburg, Pittsburg, Cleveland, Toledo, Chicago)

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DEMOCRACY RISING RALLIES TO EDUCATE AND EMPOWER AMERICAN CITIZENS

COMMERCIAL ALERT AND CITIZEN RIGHTS
(PROTECT AMERICAN FAMILIES, COMMUNITIES, U.S. DEMOCRACY FROM WALL STREET FRAUD AND CORPORATE CORRUPTION)

THE RICH ARE STEALING AND SELLING AMERICA: STOP THEM!!!

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AMERICA, EUROPE AND THE WORLD NEED HEALING THROUGH FORWARD THINKING IRISH-AMERICAN HARVARD LAW SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA

When Obama ends the illegal GOP Republican Iraq War, $1Trillion will flow back into the United States and create 20 million American jobs.

Obama loves America, while GOP Republican McCain loves tax loopholes for the rich.

I am crying for all of humanity right now. The church makes a huge mistake by mixing worldy politics with the wonderful truth of the gospel. There is NO GOOD in either political system and you cannot force people to obey God when they don't even realize their own need for him. People who don't realize their own need for a saviour will continue to live a life of darkness in a cage that is called freedom then go home and unload tears unto their pillow, and have no idea why they are crying. Dobson is a wonderful man, and I understand his point, some of these things will definitely happen, but the truth is that it is Ok. Christ has taken the sting out of death and has overcome the world, and if Gods people who are called by his name will humble themselves and pray and seek his face and turn from their wicked ways, then he will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. We cannot fight a spiritual battle with sticks. May the Holy Spirit continue his work in the hearts of the humble.

Why do people like Dobson insist on crucifying Christ again and again and again with their words of spite & ugliness ?

Well, this pretty much indicates the intellectual level of people who believe in super beings worrying about humans and their affairs. Par for the course.

pbhx wrote:

"I don't necessarily believe in coincidence, but the following two were brought to my attention. Notice the similarities.

Obama and Biden
Osama bin Laden

Obama Nation
Abomination"

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How about this?

McCain Nation
Mechanization

Perhaps we will all be turned into robots if the republicans win?

Seriously, folks, so what?!?

First of all God is real and so is his son Jesus Christ! That being said I will say this I feel Dobson's letter is way off because he sees the Government as responsible to hold up Biblical Principals. That is not the Government's job that is the Church's job. If we Christians truly lived as Christ taught and spread his message and his love we would see the results and not attack the world for being the world and the Government for being the Government. Render unto Caesar that which is due to Caesar and unto God that which is due unto God! With love I suggest he focus on the family as his organization suggest perhaps we would see a difference in 2008 never mind 2012!

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Republican's are like trained Chinese monkeys... when their master (Faux News, O'Realy, Hahanity, Limbaaaaughh, etc..) say Jump! they all ask HOW HIGH?

1st - Obama was an elitist.
Then - Obama was a celebrity.
Then - Obama was a terrorist sympathizer.
Then - Obama was a muslim
Now - Obama is a Socialist.

I wish you would ask your masters to make up their minds.

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We have little fear of 2012's author giving us a clear and accurate vision of the future. Had Rev. Dobson and his ilk the power to visualize the future they would have warned us eight years ago of a needless, intractable war in Iraq, government ineptitude as a major city was flooded to oblivion, a fiscal and monetary bomb waiting to explode and the self-immolation of the Republican Party, etc., etc.

Dobson does not speak for me or my family. He reminds me of a nutcase I met back in the 70s by the name of Jim Jones - he called his church The Peoples Temple. Maybe Dobson will follow his lead and do America a favor.

Dobson is a flase prophet. Those who follow his teachings are damned.

"there is ONE God, and ONE mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (I Timothy 2:5). This means in the clearest of terms that there is NOT a human on this earth, NOR is there an angel in heaven, who is an intermediary between us (you and me) and the Father, except Christ Jesus. It is Christ who is our only Mediator. This provides for us a great "test" for those who claim to be spokesmen or spokeswomen for Christ.

To paraphrase Lynn Cheny's description of John Kerry, ... James Dobson is a very bad man. He spews bigotry with a bible in his hand.

Dobson is nothing more that a vile Human Being. Satan is keeping him alive to do his dirty work.

pbhx wrote:

"I don't necessarily believe in coincidence, but the following two were brought to my attention. Notice the similarities.

Obama and Biden
Osama bin Laden

Obama Nation
Abomination"

He he! This is fun!

How about:

pbhx and PHHLLLBBBBTTT!

or...

McCain Palin and Stain on our Nation

Oh don't forget that Jesus Christ is Socialist.

God is not real, and there is not one iota of proof Jesus Christ ever lived.

People like Dobson belong in psychiatric hospitals. Reining in the mass hysteria that is fundamentalist Christianity is a job for all of us, all good Americans. Gently tell your Bible worshiping friends to try to grow up. Suggest better reading. Show disdain to their eye squeezing prayer and childish quoting of verse. Compare Jesus to Santa Claus for them. Do what you must as a good American, and help these confused neanderthals rise above the hopeless tomfoolery they are sold by the likes of Dobson.

Remember, the love of the truth for it's own sake is the highest of human perfections, and the seed stock of all other human virtue! Do a good deed, help a Bible addict kick his addiction!

Talk about anti-Christian bigotry and hate. You hate-seething mongrels deplore anyone with a differing opinion than yours.

Wow! There is one tortured, angry soul! I'm glad I belong to a faith community that teaches love of neighbor and helping those less fortunate! (socialists?) The majority of rational Americans do not follow these radical fundamentalists like Dobson, who use the bible as a weapon of hate. God will be the final judge of Dobson's hateful actions, but it's too bad he is given a platform for his venom. I hope John McCain grows a backbone and denounces this hateful rhetoric? Or will he continue to align himself with those he once had the courage to call "agents of intolerance"?

What could possibly be said here that would be as obscene as these "Christian" dirtbag pos profess continuously. Why does this newspaper continue to print this garbage? You are pathetic. This is not freedom of the press. It is nothing but pure unadulterated hate and lies enabled by the Washington Post. God will damn these people for what they are.

These are the same morons who voted Bush into office...What would God say about all the THOUSANDS of life your ignorant know nothing president has taken?

Who cares who McCain aligns himself with? He's out of the picture, and won't even carry his home state. His wife will probably dump him after the campaign, and hopefully he will retire or drop dead.

Dobson belongs in a psychiatric hospital.

James Dobson is the same type of fear-monger that executed some of my Dutch and German ancestors as heretics or witches.

Dobson is a fanatical pinhead who too often seems no more a Christian than my neighbor's noisy dog.

These are the same IDIOTS! who voted Bush into office...What would GOD say about all the THOUSANDS of lives your ignorant know nothing president has taken?

Brained washed "palin" imbeciles.

This article is sickening! Dr. Dobson makes a valid point. Obama will destroy America! The fears he expressed in this letter are real for many Americans, myself included!

Cue the bigots on both sides!

Oh wait, I'm 200+ posts late to the party.

Followers of Dobson are exactly analogous to followers of the Taliban. They are extreme in ignorance, profoundly dedicated to lies, and selfish beyond description. They know God is all, and they know God perfectly, and that's that. Lovely group.

Well well. Let's build a huge million cell psychiatric prison in the middle of Texas and lure these idiots there with a 3000 foot high neon crucifix, then slam the door behind them and throw away the key. These idiots are dangerous, they belong locked up.

These are the same IDIOTS! who voted Bush into office...What would GOD say about all the THOUSANDS of lives your ignorant know nothing president has taken?

Brained washed "palin" imbeciles.

FYI: We live in a Republic not a democracy.

If we lived in a democracy, whoever won the popular vote would win.

In a Republic we vote and members of the electoral college vote for president.

P.S. They are not required by law to vote the way their state voted.

Itis so sad that people actually would believe this hate filled talk.as a Christian i believe that we are all God's children.we all will go to heaven.we are loved because of the love we have for eah and every person no matter who they are or what they believe or how they live there lives.let us as a nation join together to heal the wounds of hatred

An aspirant to the core principles of Quakerism, I vividly recall inviting myself to a neighborhood bible study in which Dobson books and programs were frequently referenced. Time and again, I defended Christ's inclusiveness, tolerance, and call to simplicity of heart and being. But no, no one could understand how a government that encouraged greed and wanton consumption, elevated the rich above the poor and relied on military aggression to preserve the status quo--was a government truly opposed to life! Homophobia, abortion, sex education, evolution--were much easier targets for their rhetorical energy, allowing individuals in the group to live very comfortably and enjoy feeling "saved." None are so blind as those who will not see.

Post your comments and what you think about Dobson on his web site. He has a forum and here is a link for e-mail comments:

http://family.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/family.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=14190

What's utterly ridiculous about Dobson's letter is that he believes the Supreme Court will instantly become a radically leftist organization. Obama, if lucky, will get to appoint a maximum of 3 Justices over the course of 8 years. It all depends on who retires (or dies) and when. Furthermore, those Justices that are most likely to retire - Stevens and Ginsberg - have liberal voices. If anything, all Obama will be doing is maintaining the status quo, but perhaps making the liberal voices on the bench slightly more liberal.

These are the same IDIOTS! who voted Bush into office...What would GOD say about all the THOUSANDS of lives your ignorant know nothing president has taken?

Brained washed "palin" imbeciles.

Usually I feel sorry for people who get swindled by these false prophets. It's a constant theme.

Then, I begin to think that if people are really stupid enough to believe and follow people like Dobson, they deserve to get swindled. Seriously, if these idiots weren't spending their time and money on this guy, I shudder to think what they'd be spending their time and money on. Perhaps it's a blessing in disguise???

Unless Christianity rejects and ejects such purile, venal racketeers from its umbrella of belief; it will become an irrelevant hoax of ignorant nonsense! Its only claim to relevance is being eroded as it incorporates Yound Earth fantasies, ignores the new translations of the Churches "original" manuscripts, embraces the utter nonsense of Mormanism, and expounds that 3000 + different versions of the Bible are all true!

Just another example of why most Americans are fed up and on the verge of making a change. Because they were able to hijack the Presidency under George W., the hysterical Christian right has become one of most arrogant and hypocritical organizations around. They have gone off the deep end and I am thrilled to see that their influence is on the decline as it has been since the 2006 elections. These types of scare tactics and hate filled statements "in the name of God" are coming to an end, finally. In the very least, these religious fanatics can run off to the sidelines and talk to themselves, the rest of us really aren't interested in being preached to. Historically, Americans don't want to be ruled by any extremes and Obama can't take over soon enough for me. Praise the Lord!

Fundamentalist Christians make a mockery of "belief." They make a mockery of "truth" too. In their upside down, mentally ill world, what you believe creates truth, rather than truth informing what you believe. They cap it off with stern denial of all things not already believed. That's about as mentally ill as humans can get.

I so wish the Bible instructed these mentally ill imbeciles to walk off of cliffs as a form of worship. We'd not have to deal with their troublesome antics.

realisticbuthopeful :

Your definition of "democracy" relates to the city-states of Classical Greece, over 2,000 years ago.

Why don't you look up the word "democracy" in the dictionary, to see for yourself, what the modern English definition is?

It is not what you said.

James Dobson calls himself a man of God and yet he deals in lies and fear tactics. Unfortunately he appeals most to those who are uneducated and bigoted towards those who are different. This man and his ilk give Christianity a BAD name.

It's ironic that the supporters of the party that passed the Patriot Act are saying that the Democrats will take away freedoms.

And exactly what freedoms will Obama take away? From what I've read, the only freedom Dobson is worried about is the freedom to not be homosexual.

Dobson's intolerance is about as far from Christian ideals as you can get. It's sad that so many follow and believe this is Christianity. Love thy neighbor and do unto others!!

There are some religious dolts who live to create fear and there are their followers who love to live in fear. They find each other and the circle is created. Two things: ONE: True faith and trust in a God is supposed to eliminate fear! TWO: If people took care of their own lives in what they perceive to be a "Godly" path, they would have no room to judge another's life!

Whether accurate or not, I think the noise made by a minority of so-called Republicans is causing the GOP to become known as the Party of Angry White Christian Conservatives. They have so little respect for anyone who doesn't swear allegiance to their brand of democracy where anyone who has a different point of view is considered to be either a socialist, communist, left-wing liberal psycho, homosexual, terrorist sympathizer, or just plain insane. Sorry, but America was not built on that type of narrow-minded arrogance and it seems that they are the ones who are the most "Un-American".

WAPO, why don't you limit the number of characters people can post so you don't get useless spam comments like dwashington1 is filling your blog with?

Why is this so hard to imagine? The ACLU has already taken plenty of steps to force homosexual scout leaders, to insure the parents of pregnant teens don't have to be notified, and that elementary children are FORCED to hear about homosexual lifestyles.

The article focuses more on the liberal judges being put into authority who HAVE set laws in place that are contrary to what the (proven) majority of America opposes to. Why should an individual have such power???

When a judge comes up and decides, as one individual, that "In God We Trust" should be removed from our currency....then you, both Democrat and Republican, no longer live in a free society.

Take that for what it's worth, then before you dismiss Dobson's statements, hold onto them and measure in 4 years. It may not be as far off as it seems.

James Dobson...a hypocritical Pharisee characterizing himself as a Christian. He is a disgrace to Christianity because he is not one. He is a zealot ideologue parading himself as a Christian. He does not have the gentle, loving and humble Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ in him. His postures hover around racism, intolerance and fear mongering. He does not speak for me. He is a rogue who has lost it. The same people who supported Geaorge Bush and LIED to many believers that he was a christian. Alas we have seen where they have taken us in 8 years. The Scriptures says what I desire is mercy. But people like Dobson do not understand what mercy is. He who has no sin let him be the first to cast a stone against this prostitute - Jesus told the pharisees of his day who accused a prostitute and wanted Jesus to judge her.

May Dobson's compassionless goals and aims not prosper in this beautiful country we call America in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. AMEN!!!!!!

do you know of any parent who would allow a male scout leader to be the chaparone on an outing of young girls ??? but you'd allow a gay male scoutmaster to be a primary chaparone for a group of boys ? But thats the leftist religion for you, blind faith and no logic, now thats scary

To "Danielinthelionsden"
From Merriam-Webster:
1 a: government by the people ; especially : rule of the majority b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
2: a political unit that has a democratic government
3capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the United States
4: the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
5: the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges

You had something differnt in mind?

The truth is the United States of America is a Republic:

1 a (1): a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2): a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government b (1): a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law (2): a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government c: a usually specified republican government of a political unit

But what does any of this have to do with the psychotic ravings of a 21st century Pharisee?

this type of thinking is like the old chestnut "The Protocols of Zion". Dobson's organization is calcifying over the years into a forum for repressed rage and refuge of the mentally ill.

You don't have to make any of it up. It'll all be true soon enough. People who don't actually listen to the words of the man they're electing deserve what they get.

Rev. Dobson does not speak for all evangelicals in his hysterical letter designed to drum up support for McCain who he earlier refused to support. Makes one wonder what backroom deal McCain made to garner Dobson's support. Most evangelicals do not pay much attention to endorsements unless they were already leaning that way. Dobson speaks for the anti-intellectual wing of the Christian far right that is anti-abortion and pro death penalty and war. While neither Obama nor McCain fully embody my idea of an ideal candidate; Palin as vice president scares me to death. If you thougt Rev. Jeremiah Wright was scary; check out Palin's pastor and the other nuts of the end time prophecy movement on the internet. That explains ultra-conservative Jewish support for Palin because of her dogmatic support for anything Israel does. These prophetic nuts believe that a war in the Middle East will usher in the Second Coming of Jesus. However, they repeat Judas' heresy of nudging God along. Look how that worked out.

Insidious rhetoric. A pattern that we see from around the world. Taliban, Al-Qaeda.

This Dobson guy from Colorado Springs displays a clear OBSESSION with homosexuality, young boys and adoption. He needs to be carefully and fully scrutinized for this behavior, especially since he claims to be a child psychologist.

Who was that married, anti homosexual crusading, evangelical preacher from Colorado Springs who was caught doing illegal drugs, crystal meth - and having sex with another man in Denver a couple of years ago?

For TOMMYBASEBALL

When I made my reference to looking up the word "democracy" in the dictionary, I was responding to "realisticbuthopeful" who claimed that America was not a democracy. I think it is.

The main qualification for being a democracy in the modern sense, such as the USA. England, France, or Germany, among many others, is the legal protection of basic rights, which simple majarity rule cannot take away.

That's all.

"Paul writes that this Man of Sin (sometimes translated son of perdition) will possess a number of characteristics. These include "sitting in the temple", opposing himself against anything that is worshiped, claiming divine authority,[11] working all kinds of counterfeit miracles and signs,[12] and doing all kinds of evil."

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist)

Sound familiar Jimmy boy!?

The "Christian Right" is neither!

I just look at what IS, and I'll tell you right now, "A Christian", that I was probably - and still am, Afraid of the consequences of eight years of Bush Doctrine, Warrantless Searching and spying, Torture without bounds to "suspected terrorsist".

So if you think you've cornered the market, "A Christian" on the fear an Administration precipitates from the Citizenry, I say to you, You're a fool with no eyes, and you're only looking at YOUR selfish little part of the universe.

GWB scared me, and now that we know what he's capable, as well as incapable of, I say to you, you're all wet.

Totally a windbag with a captive pulpit.

You're despicable, "A Christian"

"many of our freedoms have been taken away by a liberal Supreme Court"

Seeing as "liberal" and "liberty" come from the same root, it's easy to see that this guy is a lying fascist. Christians such as he are not in favor of liberty or freedom. "Choice" is not in their vocabulary. Strict adherence to Scripture as Dobson interprets it is his rule. How dare he tell anyone that he speaks for God? His diktats go counter to Tom Paine, Thomas Jefferson, and even Abraham Lincoln, who famously questioned not that God is on our side, but are we on His?

In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others. Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted subconscious impulses/desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them. The theory was developed by Sigmund Freud and further refined by his daughter Anna Freud, and for this reason, it is sometimes referred to as "Freudian Projection." Dr. Dobson's obsession with homosexuality: Is it Freudian Projection? Liberal = Libertine. Homosexual = Child Molester. Democrat = Denier of Religious Freedom.

To snapplecat07

SO by your logic does that mean that you would approve of a gay male chaperoning a group of girl scouts?

I find it more sad than shocking. I was raised in a Christian household that valued social good works, personal virtue and community. Dobson's tirade is at polar opposites with the beliefs of my parents, my pastors and my church. He should be ashamed.

Wow... this attitude of the activist religious right isn't shocking. They've voiced it for years. What is troublesome is that McCain, a person who distanced himself from that group's rhetoric, even denounced it, in the past is now supported by it. I always admired McCain for his unwillingness to court that group but, now, such political matches/alliances cause me to sadly shake my head. I understand necessity and expediency are required in national elections. However, it still is disappointing. I do agree with Dobson on one thing. The Supreme Court is supremely important in this eleciton--it's composition and direction. While presidential terms are four years--and limited to eight years total for any one person, the Supreme Court's influence can last generations. So, I agree with Dobson that the Supreme Court is an important factor in the choice for president this year. What I strongly disagree with him is what choice we should make in the voting booth to help guide that direction. The Court's decisions are balanced precariously by a swing Justice, usually Kennedy. It would be a travesty for that fragile balance to be overturned by an expanded conservative majority. Already too many of the Warren Court's seminal decisions ensuring justice and equality are overthrown, attenuated, endangered and/or gasping for air.

"do you know of any parent who would allow a male scout leader to be the chaparone on an outing of young girls ??? but you'd allow a gay male scoutmaster to be a primary chaparone for a group of boys ? But thats the leftist religion for you, blind faith and no logic, now thats scary"

Snapplecat07, I realize that the argument that child molesters are homosexual fits the paradigm nicely. However, it is demonstrably false.

99.999% of child molesters are heterosexual. Look it up. I have personal experience. My best friend’s son was molested by a relative of his who is a heterosexual man. This is not an issue for debate. He is most definitely heterosexual and a molester.

Also, when I was a boy scout my Den Leader thought us how to navigate in the woods if you were ever lost, using nature as a compass. He taught us how to track, how to set camp, clean up to keep bears away and how to break camp without trashing the area. He was a role model and all of us looked up to him. He was a good, kind and generous man. And it was not until we attended his funeral as adults that we discovered he was gay. Not a single one of us – about a dozen – were molested, threatened or mistreated by this man. For us, he was no different than any other man in our neighborhood.

So, yes, I would not have a problem with a homosexual man, who has been through the same screening, as a heterosexual man should go through to be a Den Leader, sharing a tent with my son.

It is not a disease that someone can catch. It is not a mental illness. Perhaps you have had such a sheltered life that you have never actually met a gay man? Or maybe you know several men who you considerable respectable you do not know are gay?

But, if you actually read your Bible, you would notice that Jesus spends considerable time discussing caring for the poor, not divorcing, rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's, forgiving without precondition and being faithful to God's call to love, yet he does not speak a single word about homosexuality.

How can you allow the poor to suffer, fight paying taxes, countenance divorce, encourage war and carry so many grudges against so many "types" of people (most you have probably never even met) and yet find homosexuality the issue that separates the Godly from the Godless?

Talk about "blind faith and no logic"!!!!

The church makes a huge mistake by mixing worldly politics with the wonderful truth of the gospel. There is NO GOOD in either political system and you cannot force people to obey God when they don't even realize their own need for him. Not to mention that the whole homosexual discussion is far more complicated than what popular Christian media relays.TURN OFF THE TV!! POINT BLANK and read what the Bible actually says for yourself with an open heart and God WILL speak to You. People who don't realize their own need for a savior will continue to live a life of darkness in a cage that is called freedom then go home and unload tears unto their pillow, and have no idea why they are crying. The church is supposed to offer healing for the world. And that is EVERYONE. Dobson has a generally wonderful message about family, but i will say that in this case he is really trying too hard. I understand his point, but his tactics are unnecessary. The truth is that Christ has already taken the sting out of death and has overcome the world, and if Gods people who are called by his name will humble themselves and pray and seek his face and turn from their wicked ways, then he will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. We cannot fight a spiritual battle with sticks and laws. May the Holy Spirit continue his work in the hearts of the humble.

This guy does NOT speak for all Christians, or any true Christians for that matter. People like this jerk give Christianity a bad name, and I am sick of it.
James Dobson does not share the good news that Jesus died for ALL humanity, nor does he share the lesson that Christ taught us... 1) love all 2) ask for and give forgiveness 3) Do not judge, but show compassion and understanding. God help Mr. Dobson get a flippin' clue.

The letter just realistically portends what is very much likely to come if the troika of Dem's get in power and what we can look forward to !!!

If you dont agree just look at the disgusting cesspool of California has become, and Prop 8 issue !!! Dont forget California and the CASTRO District is pelosi center of power !!! If you want more of the same just vote in the Dem's everywhere !!!

I am a resident of the Mexican colony of los Angeles and can give you chapter and verse !!

We should be electing someone who says God Bless America.....NOT GOD DAMN America !!!

"But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death." Deuteronomy 13:1-5.

Not suggesting capial punishment here, but Dobson is a false prophet and a hack. He'll have a special place near the fire in Dante's Inferno.

I'm thinking about writing a "Letter from 2008" detailing all the terrible things we thought couldn't happen. Unlike the writer of "2012" I wouldn't have to rely on guesswork.

It's amazing to me that the Faith section of the Washington Post does nothing but attack people of sincere faith.

Dr. Dobson is writing about real possibilities that could happen under an Obama administration. While Obama is not going to talk about it during his campaign, it certainly is some of his Radical Left goals.

Obama is the most extreme liberal radical ever to run for President as a major party candidate. There is much to fear with his Administration and filibuster proof democrat led Senate.

Snapplecat07 ummm...yes...I do believe that i would allow a man to chaperone a camping trip of girls...men do that kind of thing all the time... unlike you or the men you probably deal with, not all men are pedophilic horndogs who can't control themselves around young people.

Forget any sense of reason with the Toby McQuire wannabe on this post. You'll have better luck getting Sean "Insanity" Hannity to admit the evil of his ways.

Or maybe Ann "my brain falters" Coulter. Or Dick "don't think just give me money" Morris. Or Glenn "bend over backwards" Beck Or some other twisted moron whose make believe world is crumbling around them.

Come Wednesday, all these clowns will be screaming bloddy murder and making up stories not even a peacock would believe.

Judging from most of the comments, I'm not alone in thinking Dobson is a world class whackjob.

Normally, I wouldn't lose any sleep over his nuttiness, but his over-the-top rhetoric could push one of his weak minded followers to do something stupid. Hope the Secret Service stays on its toes.

isguy : "Dr." Dobson is not a man of sincere faith, he is a false prophet, a con man, and a man of sincere hate.

The God fearing, God-is-on-our-side crowd. The nasty, preachy Christian swarm. On the march! A Western version of the Taliban, Christian radicalism. The borne-again's, the multi-headed Christian evangelists. The false profits, with their multimillion-dollar compensations, preaching from the pulpit, bringing the message of peace, love and forgiveness ... no meanness, no hatred to the masses. Jesus must be rolling in his grave. I'd just love to be a Praying Mantis on the wall when these so called men of GOD go before the BIG DOG for their entrance interview. Think they'll be given the keys to the magic kingdom? Extremists, army's of fanatical Religious zealots, driven by greed, control and power in this life, intolerant of the very world God created. Preaching salvation and bliss in the next life for those who believe and eternal damnation to all non believers. The Theory of Evolution will not be tolerated. Goose-step is resurrected before our very eyes(The Lion and the Unicorn). Didn't you know the World is flat. The following heretics: Charles Darwin, Aristotle, Niels Borh, Max Planck, Budha, Copernicus, Albert Einstein, Richard Feynman, Galileo Galilei, Gell-Mann, Heisenberg, Isaac Newton, Pascal, Erwin Schodinger, Dirac, ... etc ... etc..., will all be banished when the new Religious World Order is resurrected.

fr LINDSEYK:

>This article is sickening! Dr. Dobson makes a valid point. Obama will destroy America! The fears he expressed in this letter are real for many Americans, myself included!

None of dobdork's "fears" are real, except the fear that he will have to grow UP someday. He has made himself a laughingstock of intelligent people, and is known for advocating BEATING small dogs and children with implements, besides being virulently anti-gay. He needs his license (which he probably got from a gumball machine) AND FCC license permanently revoked.

Dobson's propaganda saddens me. I don't know when Americans became so fearful and hateful. It must be horrible to live in such fear of others and the future day in and day out.

Even more sadly, their fear is expressed in character assassination. God will judge this.

My prediction: before the end of November, Dobson will announce the formation of a new Christian political party and will be making appearances with Sarah Palin.

Christian Conservatives who believe this bunk should remember the words of a great American leader: "We have nothing to fear but fear itself!" If anyone is proof positive (negative?) of this adage, it is James Dobson. Read these comments from the CC's and they all relate to fear and divisiveness. Whatever happened to "Trust in the Lord"? Shouldn't Christians be content to stay in their churches and pray for God to take care of everything? Isn't everything "perfect and divine" in the eyes of the Lord anyway? Even homosexuals?

One wonders why Mr. Dobson is so obsessed with homosexuality. Could he be the stereotypical example of every other man we have seen who hath protesteth too much?

James Dobson continues to practice and promote something that doesn't even resemble Christianity anymore. Fear, hatred, bigotry, politics, power. This is religion?

Dobson is not just disturbing but also out of touch with the Christian community in the US. He's simply a nut with a bullhorn.

You have GOT to be kidding me! Not that a hateful Dobson would write something like this (Focus on the Family...as long as you agree completely with me) but that people actually buy into this claptrap! Really, is Dobson any different from Charles Manson?

It is pretty obvious that James Dobson is pursuing an agenda of his own through this letter. At the same time, I feel that some of his geopolitical scenarios are not really as far fetched as we would like them to be.

Russia, Iran and Al Quaeda still have their political ambitions and the only possible thing that could be preventing them from taking advantage could be Bush. Who is to say that Barack Obama's refined and logical approach might actually end up doing much worse.

America has been desperately looking for change but maybe Bush has been the best way forward for the whole world in light of the events that have happened and those that have not occured. The bottom line is whether Obama's change is something that we can believe in?

Can I ask why people are so mad at Dobson. Isn't this the practice of free speeach that people are so fond of. Do you really expect people who disagree with you to keep quiet. What happened to intelligent debate?

I think this is exactly how many people feel and possibly others should look at the facts. I don't know if people here understand the teachings of the Bible on such things as Homosexuality. Shouldn't we address these first before attacking Dobson.

If you don't know the teachings of Dobson, you should really investigate more. He is obviously against spreading Homosexuality, as the Bible preaches, but his main goal is to strengthen families and spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. He really spends very little time in political things. Please read more about him before you make judgements.

I am dissappointed people hate the man they say is the hater. To say the least this is hypocritical. The man has every right to express his views and if he is wrong, I'm sure there will be plenty to point it out. What concerns me most is the threat to his freedom of speach.

I agree 100% with James Dobson. Jesus Christ said "Let the little children come unto me." Obama believes let the little children suffer and die if they survive an abortion. Obama said, "I would not want my daughter punished with a baby if she made a mistake." This is a violation of God's Law, the 14th Amendment, and even the holding of Roe v. Wade when there is a significant state interest in the life of the child in the third trimester. Obama supports the culture of convenience and death. He will be able to cut the budget defecit by killing babies so they will not qualify for Head Start and Medicaid. Obama palls around with terrorist and this is in perfect tandem with his Post Modern Culture of death view on abortion. Sure I feel your pain of oppression, go ahead make political hay by strapping a bomb vest on your women and having them blow themselves up in a mall filled with innocent women and children. I understand your opporession.

I am voting for McCain to stop the culture of death and moral relativism Obama promotes. Dobson keep up the good work.

As an intelligent Christian, I totally reject Dobson's fearmongering hate-speak.

However, I find his comments serve as a clear barometer to gauge others' ignorance. If one agrees with Dobson's point of view, and from the article it appears that 220 million might, then one is arguably either a moron and/or has a complete misunderstanding of the Golden Rule.

Furthermore, Dobson's unenlightened and intolerant philosophy has more in common with the various extremist ideologies than will contemporary rational Christian thought.

kert1 :
Freedom of Speech is freedom from the government impinging on his right to say what he wants...nowhere on this message board is the govt. doing that. Freedom of Speech is not freedom from being told that you are wrong.

What would Jesus do if he were here? He would have nothing to do with a vile, hateful wing-nut like James Dobson. I feel sorry for moderate Christians. He smears the entire faith with his hate and his phobias.

Do not fear for the future. When President to be, Mr Obama,is elected, Islam will be your religion. Mr Obama will be refered to as IMAM OBAMA. Islam will rid the USA, of all immoral acts. Islam is the ONLY way to salvation. The USA will be cleansed. INSHALLAH

Dr. Dobson,

Do not relent. Keep the faith and keep speaking the truth. I do not want America to look like Massachusetts.

Liberals love free speech only when it is at the altar of Obama.

Obama is a secular humanist.

1. We are the ones, we have been waiting for.
2. We can change the world.
3. The nation will heal and the oceans will stop rising.
4. Each day mankind is getting better and better, just elect me Obama.
5. Just kill the freaking child, the child is the problem.

Resist these narcissistic, amoral, and humanist views.

McCAIN IS THE MAN. CHRISTIANS DO NOT GIVE UP THE FIGHT. MAKE SURE YOU VOTE FOR McCAIN

Many people who support this man have no idea what the Bible actually says- especially those who harp on the "evils of homosexuality". Jesus never talked about it and the few places in the Bible that do also forbid such things as eating shellfish and wearing mixed fibers What about the Sabbath day and keeping it holy- seems I see a whole lot of people shopping on Sunday.

Prime example of why NORMAL Americans are mobilizing like never before to oust the fundies and their Ilk.

It is the blind leading the blind or the piper calling on the rats to leave town. Maybe the second analogy works better - move to Alaska to find the last rapture - and bring Palin with you.

Elmer Gantry would love this in this sermons. Get a life Dobson!

hoimacoach

Sorry, but I think you're going to have to get used to a black President.

Who will be the first to drop off their kids at Barney Frank's or Siegfried and Roy's for the weekend?

These Evangelicals are a bunch of clowns.
That's right, keep voting against your own economic interests because you are too scared or stupid to find the "real" facts about the issues of the day. All it takes is a little due diligence and faith in one's own intelligence. I think that the latter is seriously lacking with Evangelicals since they must be led by the hand and must all speak with the same voice.

hoimacoach : I would have no problem with Mr. Frank watching my kids...now S and R, those tigers are dangerous.

You need help sir. Serious mental help.

Dear Dr. Dobson,

I've been listening to your program on WAVA for more than ten years now. I have enjoyed and learned a great deal from what you and your guests teach about parenting and marriage.

I will no longer be listening to your show.

While you clearly don’t share my personal belief that politics has no place in the pulpit (and your studio is a pulpit that reaches millions), I've reached the point at which I am beyond disappointed in what has been coming out of the Focus on the Family camp lately; I'm thoroughly disgusted.

I strongly believe that your politically-based broadcasts are a violation of your donors' trust. Those individuals who contribute to Focus on the Family ACTION should be able to hear your hatemongering (yes, I'm using this word--and frankly I'm surprised that I would have to, because I had thought so much better of you) rants on a separate broadcast (Rush Limbaugh’s, for example), but to broadcast that on the regular FotF seems a betrayal of your donors' good faith contributions. I will no longer be numbered among the supporters of your “ministry.”

Your partisanship and fear-mongering of late are irresponsible, inflammatory, and divisive. Two egregious examples that come to mind immediately are your vocal support of Sarah Palin and the disgusting, homophobic "Letter from 2012." To the first: giving birth to a child with Down syndrome and having a teenage daughter pregnant out of wedlock do NOT qualify someone for the office of vice president. Palin has shown herself to be uninformed and closed-minded—two qualities we do NOT need more of in the executive branch.

To the second, Jesus preached love, period. Not I-love-you-only-if-you-agree-with-me.

Vote your conscience. But please, please stop fostering these types of nonsensical, divisive prejudices. You (and others making similarly myopic statements) are giving those of us Christians who try to demonstrate Jesus' love in this real world, WITHOUT judgment, a bad name.

James Dobson never killed anyone and he is as similar to Charles Manson as Martin Luther King is to Reverend Wright.

gd America for killing 40 million plus babies since 1973. An ACORN does not fall far from the tree.

Vote McCain.

It is really clear that these guys have been hiding behind a cloak of Christianity. Jesus would throw this group out of the temple. Real, honest-to-GOD Christians should be repulsed by this stuff. Just remember to love these people as they see the light and peel away from the right. There are some who may be able to pull away from these evangelical cults.

Rats, now that our secret plot to take away freedom has been uncovered, what are we liberals to do?

Dobson's Focus is on the Almighty Dollar. In stirring up the ignorant masses for support, he uses tabloid tactics and fear. Remember, these are the same people who think "reality TV" is real.

I cannot understand why the IRS does not tax his propaganda organization since he has clearly taken a partisan political stand in his vile letter.

This man gives actual Christians a bad name, the same way the Neoconservatives have given Republicans their bad name.

James Dobson loves this country more than Obama loves himself.

Remember, Jesus brought people together. His friends were fishermen, criminals, and people on the street. He didn't preach hate of anyone - we gain our redemption through love. So, Dobson has not killed anyone, but he is teaching hate and fear and that is completey, totally different from the words of Christ.

If you live in hate and fear, will you grow your heart so you are ready for the Kingdom of God? I can't judge, but it is not the Christianity of love and redemption that I know. My prayers are with you.

Remember, Jesus did show up to throw the money changers out of the temple. Dodson has made a lot of money on this and he keeps people glued to him by making them hate and fear people who aren't in their cult. Is that what Jesus ever EVER did? No. Love is the answer.

Unrest,
I agree that most aren't calling for government action although a couple are. You miss the bigger point. This mantra of "Hate Speech" and his inability to write about something he believes. Many feel "hate speech" should be regulated. Of course this isn't hate speech and I don't believe it should be regulated.

Dobson is a good, intelligent man who has a right to spread his opinion. This is the opinion of many Americans and people should at least understand the arguments instead of insulting a man they know nothing about. It is scary where it could go. Arguement is good but hateful insulting is bad.

My only hope is that God, in his infinite wisdom, finally realizes the obscenity of such misanthropes as Dobson and spontaneously sterilizes Dobson and each and every evangelical fundamentalist Christian of like mind in order for halt their pollution of the human gene pool.

ISGUY :

The "Faith section" is an open door forum for all faith based belief systems, not a homogenous prayer circle of like minded people. You should know what happens in religious debate of contradictory principles. Yet, much more happens than "attack" people of sincere faith, it seems to me.
Dr. Dobson is writing about fully unrealistic fears, to feed the fear of those that would believe that kind of garbage. It IS insulting and divisive. That is the intent, and to rally enough fear to attempt to make some difference in the vote. His is another voice of slander, your moral christian dobson.

"Obama is the most extreme liberal radical ever to run for President as a major party candidate."

Your words are insightful. Whether that is actually true or not aside, he may be an essential balance for the last miserable eight years led by your evangelical hypocrites. A uniter administration? Bush is the most "extreme neocon radical" ever to run for President, AND to "win" the post. Wolf is sheeps clothing. Destroyed everything he touched, in my opinion, and leave office with America in shambles. Every one of you Dobson fans were behind Bush in both elections, spouting that the tide was changing toward a stronger and morally superior America.
Something to fear is what happened already as a result of evangelical vote. Lacks compassion and tolerance, traits encouraged by the Master that Dobson says he serves.
Hypocricy brings all these spiritual pundits down, for they hate. It is contrary to the essential message of christianity, and so the foundation fails.

Thank you, God, for real Christians like Jim Wallis.

I love Focus on the Family and agree 100% with Dr. James Dobson.

God Bless James Dobson.

Mr. Dobson, you need help. You must adjust to a changing world. We no longer _need_ to put up with the infernal distances between one another, across great physical distances, ages, races, or religions. We now have the mails, telephones, and more, even. We can now communicate directly with one another, we can now compare each others' views either in person or via reading and what we now call "Internet surfing." This is like running free from book to book, passage to passage across those books, each paragraph instantly accessible for comparison to others. Each set of views can be viewed from any number of perspectives. All from the comfort of your favorite chair, all at the touch of your fingertips.

It is fun, educational, and enlightening to share thougths with those across the county; hey, even with those across the globe. It is challenging as well as fun to test one's own ideas against these others.

Try it. Get your granddaughter or grandson to help you "get online" and show you how to get around all of this newly available information. You may find the hunting there more rewarding than spreading terror to your congregation as the pagans used to.

kert1 : I know quite a bit about Dobson and his twisted view on the world. This knowledge has caused me to reject him and his views.

I am one of those evangelicals Dobson thinks he speaks for. He does not, nor has he ever, represented me. I don't check my brain at the church door or the voting booth. BUT, BO's own campaigning and his words, his associates, his "spread the wealth" mantra all strongly supports everything Dobson writes about. I shudder to think what we're facing.

No one's ideas or opinions should ever be dismissed entirely. Perhaps Dobson's rhetoric is extreme, but having the most left-wing-liberal-senator as President will certainly bring changes that many people will find hard to imagine.
McCain '08

Unrest,
Could you please explain Dobson's "twisted views" and how they go against biblical teachings. I would appreciate understanding where he departs from his Christian values so I can make my own judgement.

Thanks.

i'm so embarassed!!! i feel ashamed to ever have contributed to Focus on the Family. For Dobson to use such scare tactics and insult fellow Christians' intelligence by expecting us to believe it, it makes me wonder what's really behind his motives. Is he just another politician behind the guise of a Christian? Is he willing to stoop this low to advance his personal agenda? Jesus warned us to be wary of the false prophets of the last days!
i was leaning for McCain but after reading this, i can't see myself as part of this by voting for him.
i think i'm going to stay home fast on election day and pray for this nation, it's political leaders and the so called Christian leaders.
As far a Focus on the Family is concerned, i can no longer listen to their radio shows and respect what they say, much less contribute to them.

So, Dobson doesn't speak for you - but you have bought all of the lies and innuendos his group and McCain have spread about Obama - so you are looking through the same glasses at their world. That is not independence.

This stuff is hate speech pure and simple and is as bad or worse than anything we have heard. So, stop with the "I can think for myself", until you really can. The "spread the wealth around" is no different from the loaves and fishes -so tell Jesus you don't believe in sharing - that He shouldn't have turned the water into wine because that is socialism. Think of what Jesus looked and sounded like. He was from the middle east - his words totally mesmerized people.

Dobson and the right would get you to be terrified of him, too, in a heartbeat.

I pray for all of us.

It is amazing to see that only the liberal media is allowed freedom of speech. Mr. Dobson's comments are his and only his and therefore he should be entitled to the same ones. Moreover, the comments of one man are not representative of all evangelicals. Regardless, we cannot continue to pretend that same sex unions and abortions are moral acts. While I do not agree with moralistic campaings based on fear-- I cannot condone media's one side godless coverage of evanglicals and their actions.

MAGGIEWW :
"Dobson has not killed anyone, but he is teaching hate and fear and that is completey, totally different from the words of Christ."

"If you live in hate and fear, will you grow your heart so you are ready for the Kingdom of God?"

"...it is not the Christianity of love and redemption that I know."

"Love is the answer."

I like what you write here, and agree. This is the essential problem that I have with Dobson and may christian and evangelical preachers like him. These words you write are tough to follow in day to day life and we fail often in the attempt. But someone that places themselves on the soapbox present themselves as an authority AND EXAMPLE of Christian living, and so an example of Christ.
Preaching fear and hatred is not Jesus, to me, and disgusts me to hear. Forming sermons that intend to grow fear, anger, hate, any of the darker emotions, is contra-Christ, to me. Distasteful.

Dobson is simply revealing his true colors. He fears Obama would do all this for the simple reason that he knows he would impose his views on America in this way if he had the power.

This Dobson letter is really about power. This Right Wing preacher sees that the Right Wing Extreme of the GOP will lose power in Washington D.C. if a Democrat is elected. It is not about religion at all but about power.

This is why our wise founding fathers made sure we had separation of church and state a core belief our our country.

As a Catholc, I would leave my church tomorrow if such a manifesto was released by the Catholic Bishops. It is not up to us to judge another but only God has the power and right to do so.

I pray for such men who have assumed God's power on earth. I hope his judge in heaven does not treat him as harshly in his final heavenly review. God Bless us all.

What a bunch o idiots! I think for Halloween I'm going to dress as Dobson. Truly scary.

For hoimacoach

I agree Dobson never killed anyone but it is funny that you mention him with Charles Manson. If I am not mistaken, he never killed anyone either. But he brought his followers to such a fever pitch, that they did. What I fear about a guy like Dobson is not that he would kill anyone (I doubt he would risk it), but that when he spits out such hateful ideas among his followers, one of them might -- not unlike the David Dukes of this world [who I am sure would also be against Obama and side with Dobson on this election -- hmm, talk about people's association with others :-) ].

And Dobson is also a hypocrite -- I distinctly remember him saying that if McCain was nominated, he would not vote for him. So much for being a man of his word.

"It's all about strikes now
so here's what's striking me:
That some punk could argue some moral ABCs,
while people are catching
what bombers release.
Well I'm on a mission
to never agree."

-"The Argument" Fugazi

Freedom of Speech, is this your new idea? When we say that what Dobson writes is not-Christian, we are attacking his freedom of speech. No. We are attacking his cloak of Christianity. That is the issue. The freedom of speech issue for the right is such a knee-jerk joke - well, I know you are smarter than that.

I had a sister, an invalid, who spent many years listening to Dobson and Rush and, believe me, it was hard to find topics we could discuss - even though we were both very spiritual people. That was because the first order of business for this group is actually preaching hatred and mistrust of people who are not in their following.

By the Grace of God, before she passed away, my dear sister realized that the end of all she was hearing was hatred, so it could not be real Christianity.

It is not an issue of free speech. However, given that all of us only have so much time in a day to listen and talk, it is the idea that someone with the pulpit of Dobson would so corrupt the discourse by infusing lies and hate and innuendo. That is totally antithetical or the opposite of what Jesus would do.

Now, for my argument to reach your heart at all, we both need to believe that Jesus was a great man and, for most of us, the Son of God and that we are all Children of God. So, if we are all Children of God, for Dobson to say this sort of thing about Obama is really an insult to the Creation.

It is not at all about free speech, it is about Christian speech, spiritual speech, and having enough respect for God's creation to lift us up instead of turning people into armies moved by hatred and fear.

Love to you all.

I never fails to suprise me how far the Liberals wil go to silence those who disagree with them. Over the last several elections we have had flaming liberals who did not get elected because they were so far left. Now there is Obama who makes those candidates look like NRA reps. and yet if we treat him the same as we treated the others we are hit with accusations that we are stupid or that we are racist. I started out as a democrat when I was still a child. It was the party of my family. Then I grew up and along came Reagan and I switched. I have never regretted it. My family switched too all of us Independantly.
I cannot tolerate the liberal Ideals which seem to swirl around an anti christian agenda. this does not suprise me. A lot of people are afraid of an Obama presidency. I am not nearly as worried about that as I am the fact that the house, the senate, and the president are all going to be from the same party if he is elected. Every time in history that this has happened we the people have gotten the raw end of it (Need I say Nafta)This is scary enough on its own But the really scary part is the bias in the news media. I am not talking just about some reporters who are biased an base the majority of thier stories praising Obama and bashing Mcain. The real devils are the editors and chiefs who refuse to report on anythimg that they percieve may be damaging to Obama. Now I can understand this in any case where the facts are made up or distorted But I am talking about cases where things are documented. Top that off with the rabid assalts on Palin and you can see the pattern here. But think about this, If the people who bring you the news are as biased as the certainly appear to be now. Then who is going to report on the raw deals being handed down to the american people if he gets in. In this electiuon we have seen more signs of someone trying to Buy an election and of foriegn people trying to bias the election than we have ever had before. I for one am really upset about that. Please get out to Vote for Mcain. He is not my favorite person but he is less likely to screw things up since he would have to get anything done with a democratic Congress and if he does then at least the media will be paying attention instead of hiding thier heads in the sand trying to keep from adimiting that they might just be wrong. Remember the NBC logo It should be changed to an ostrich

C'mon folks. James Dobson is not only a hater but he is also a very, very sick man. We should probably feel sorry for him which is a tough call considering that he is the leader of the worlds largest and undoubtly most dangerous cult.

His fixation on male homosexuals is well known to all and reflects a lot about his own personal dtruggles and illness.

Gee… 2012 sounds like a better time. I am optimistic for the future. Thanks you Dobson the visionary!

It never fails to amaze me how the right wingers want to take up our free speech time ranting about free speech. Please read below and give it a second of your time. God does want to open your hearts to love instead of hate if you let Him.

Dear Freedom of Speech, is this your new idea? When we say that what Dobson writes is not-Christian, we are attacking his freedom of speech? No. We are attacking his cloak of Christianity. That is the issue. The freedom of speech issue for the right is such a knee-jerk joke - well, I know you are smarter than that.

I had a sister, an invalid, who spent many years listening to Dobson and Rush and, believe me, it was hard to find topics we could discuss - even though we were both very spiritual people. That was because the first order of business for this group is actually preaching hatred and mistrust of people who are not in their following.

By the Grace of God, before she passed away, my dear sister realized that the end of all she was hearing was hatred, so it could not be real Christianity.

It is not an issue of free speech. However, given that all of us only have so much time in a day to listen and talk, it is the idea that someone with the pulpit of Dobson would so corrupt the discourse by infusing lies and hate and innuendo. That is totally antithetical or the opposite of what Jesus would do.

Now, for my argument to reach your heart at all, we both need to believe that Jesus was a great man and, for most of us, the Son of God and that we are all Children of God. So, if we are all Children of God, for Dobson to say this sort of thing about Obama is really an insult to the Creation.

It is not at all about free speech, it is about Christian speech, spiritual speech, and having enough respect for God's creation to lift us up instead of turning people into armies moved by hatred and fear.

Love to you all.

Dobson is obsessed with sex, homosexuality in particular. Everything he says inevitably revolves around it. The day I heard him on the radio telling parents that their little boys should shower with their daddies because seeing daddy's penis will make them straight - I too am not making this up - it occurred to me that he himself is a deeply repressed homosexual.

FREEDOMOFSPEECH:

I COMPLETELY disagree that media coverage is all one sided as you say. Liberal media is spouted around everywhere, but is a falsehood. If mainstream media has been one sided it often is toward the right. Look at any of the main news outlets. There are five Hannitys' to one Jon Stewart. Hardball is the lay of the land.

"While I do not agree with moralistic campaings based on fear-- I cannot condone media's one side godless coverage of evanglicals and their actions."

I think that people hear into the kind of moralizing that Mr. Dobson preaches and make their own judgements. I can get irritated reading a speech by the Pope, but at least I don't have to listen to fear mongering, sword rattling and hatred coming from him, as I do listening to Dobson and his kind. Not my form of Godliness.

As an evangelical who does not want to be associated with Dobson and his supporters, it is not about free speech or Christianity, it is all about power.

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To snapplecat07

SO by your logic does that mean that you would approve of a gay male chaperoning a group of girl scouts?

-no I woudnt, gay men, the gay culture are notorious for "any type of sexual behavior". In gay/liberal culture, you can be transgender, bi or whatever. Even a sicko group like Nambla marched in gay pride parades. Now can you answer my original question ? I would also add that no jewish, aethiest, christian or wiccan mom I know would allow a man to chaperone a girl scout troop. The logic is beyond "leftist""gay" ideology but liberals are so blinded by there own religion, they would inflict its harm on others. Talk about intolerant.

snapplecat07 lives in hornballtown, usa...a sad little place where dads aren't allowed to interact with their daughters...

Kert asks,
"Could you please explain Dobson's "twisted views" and how they go against biblical teachings."

Anyone who asks that has not read the Gospels. Try those, Kert. Something about love, not hate.

A Christian asks, "What would Jesus do?". Dobson asks "Who would Jesus bomb?".

Waters,

You lied. He may have opened with homosexual marriage but he went on to talk about many other things. You neglected to write about that in your commentary. Of course we noticed a "trend" in your paraphrase of the article - you wrote it that way to SHOW that trend.

Listen people. As Christians, we're just never going to buy it. We're here to love everyone: Yes. Undoubtedly. But we don't agree (and never will) on the relative moralists' point of view that "whever you want to do is fine, as long as it makes you happy." Call us names. Call us narrow minded. Call us stupid hicks who live on a farm.

Now you can go ahead and live your life in whichever way you deem fit, but the more these laws are passed, the harder I have to fight against society's current, to teach my children right from wrong; the harder I have to work at keeping my children's eyes on truth. It has nothing to do with hating anyone; it has to do with maintaining an environment (and by that I mean COUNTRY) that is suitable to raise my kids in; suitable to instill values (and by values I don't mean family - I mean VALUES like love, peace, patience, humility, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, joy, self-control).

You see it is fear-mongering, I see it as using the imagination to project policy changes that will result in a self-proclaimed "reformer."

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU ARGUED THAT OBAMA WOULDN'T DO THE THINGS DOBSON WROTE.

All of you called Dobson a fear-monger. A freak. A neocon, blah blah blah. Whatever. Implicit in those statements was an approving silence, quite possibly because you feel quite certain that Obama will do things like that.

I'm a Christian. The Bible by far the only truth that we as human beings can rely on. Jesus did exist. He did live. And he did die. Those are all facts. The only one that has ever been questioned is whether he rose again, and was actually God.

He did.

I don't believe because it keeps me warm at night. I have a 100% goose down to do that for me. I don't believe because I hope it will make me money - I make plenty. I don't believe because I'm stupid: I'm in the 92nd percentile IQ for this country. I don't believe because my parents taught me - I willingly left a life that was probably better than yours if we're using the sex, drugs and rock & roll litmus test.

No. I believe because my heart has been moved to do so. I believe because it is written. I continue to believe because of the poweful transformation that has happened in my life (that is promised). Unfortunately, many of you will never see that because you hate us. You will continue to hate us.

For kert1 and Rogerhead

Sure. Jesus taught us to love one another, to do good to those who hate you, to turn the other cheek. Obama is criticized for wanting to "share the wealth" and that rather uneducated woman reporter from Florida quoted Marx and asked Biden about the connection between "From each according to his abilities and to each according to his needs" or however it goes and asked how that compares with Obama. If I had been Biden, I would have said to her it goes why back further than the 19th century. The real principle behind Obama's sharing the wealth is more like "Sell what you have and give to the poor." Or "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get to heaven." So if Obama would tax Dobson at the rate he should be taxed, he would be helping him get to heaven. That is a good thing. Dobson by acquiring so much wealth, is making it hard for himself. Also, the right seems to think it is somehow religious to avoid paying taxes unlike Jesus whose response to the question of whether people should pay taxes came up with the memorable phrase "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and to God that which is God's."

And then there is the little matter of guilt by association (without ever mentioning some of the people in McCain's past interestingly enough). Well, no let me see, Who was it Who was accused of associating with prostitutes and sinners (tax collectors) almost 2000 years ago?

Is that enough of why I see Dobson as a false prophet?

It's pretty bizarre that these people approve of Bush tapping our phones without a warrant and locking up forever anyone Bush decides is a "terrorist," and then say Obama is going to take away our rights by appointing "ACLU" lawyers are judges.
I suppose it only Moslems that are being locked up, so it's OK with Dobson.

I am not Bias about Dobson at all for or against. I have heard some really good things from him and some really bad things from him. Its kind of like George Bush. I voted for him and I cant stand him but just because he is so far to the right that he make central conservative like me cringe does not make John Mcain into Bush. There are a lot of places where they think alike but they are very different. I am positive that if John Mccain had been in office instead of Bush then we would have never been in Iraq. We may be bombing Iran but we would have left Iraq alone. I can totally understand the democrats hate towards him> I mean he beat them twice and one of those times was after they had a chance to realize that he was an idiot and yet they could not break down and actually find a moderate instead of a total liberal to run against him. Twice. and lost . Twice. Now we have nearly every black person 90%+ who is voting for Obama because he is black and they do not get called racist. But tell someone you are voting for Mcain because he is White and you may get arrested for a hate crime (Only Whites are ever convicted of hate crimes. No Coincidence) Please do not Vote for Obama just to make it look like you are not a racist also remember once you are behind that curtain nobody knows how you actually voted. On a final Note if all of those people who did not participate in the polls because they did not want to get labeled like this come out to vote and if even a fraction of the granolas (Fuits, Nuts, and flakes)out there with the Obama stickers on thier cars votes for the best candidate who will help them rather than tax them for the multi trillion dollar plans that have yet to explain how they are going to pay for.. Side note: How come every time someone mentions healthcare they never bring up the Biggest problem with health care. The different billing amounts charged to those with insurance vs those without. Its bad enough if you have no insurance that you have to pay high medical bills without thos bill costing you 2 - 8 times more than they charge people with health insurance

to freedomofspeech:

give me a break. yeah we have free speech, and we also have idiotic speech, and that is all that dobson preaches.

BTW when you speak of abortion and gay marriage being immoral, that is your morality and thankfully not the morality of the majority

ARMINUS,
That doesn't even make sense to my question. I am still looking for what Dobson has said. Like actual examples. If you don't have them, just say it.

By the way, have you read revelation.

TomFromNKJ1,
Dobson is not a prophet and has never claimed to be. Can you give a reference to this?

No where does the Bible encourage people to remove wealth from somebody to help them. This is called stealing an even more basic tenet of Christianity. You can't take someones money away and say I am helping them. If you disagree with this can you please tell me where you live so I can come over and share your wealth. Thanks.

You may want to study socialism/marxism and find out why the US hasn't ever gone there before.

kert1 :

I've read revelation...reads like a bad acid trip.

Dobson may never have called himself a prophet, but when you write a letter claiming to see into the future, well that sounds sounds like a prophet to me...and actions speak louder than words.

Does Dobson and his followers even know who Jesus Christ was and what he did and say on this earth?

You wouldn't know it from their words and actions.

Tomfromnj1 writes:And then there is the little matter of guilt by association (without ever mentioning some of the people in McCain's past interestingly enough). Well, no let me see, Who was it Who was accused of associating with prostitutes and sinners (tax collectors) almost 2000 years ago?

Is that enough of why I see Dobson as a false prophet?

--yr logic is a bit off on this, when Jesus met the prostitute, he didnt toast her and give a speech about her success and how she showed him quite a few truths. Jesus met people, told them they were wrong from the get go, and if they admitted there guilt and turned away, then he accepted them. Its not anything like what they are accusing Mc or Ob of.

Exagerated, scare mongering fiction yes, but look at the changes in the UK when even slightly left wing governments have been in power,

Look at the sort of things Labours Blair and Brown have imposed on England, only now are the people beginning to realise how they have been lied to. Look at what the GLC under Ken Livingston were up to the loony left at large.

The loony left or liberalism as the US refers to it is not just an illusion, it is real with out of control political correctness towards religion and gender, and a tendency to inflate government and try and micromanage its citizens lives, then lie about the cost. Stealth taxes and expert commitees to advise on committees advising on other committees about everything. That the government then overrule because they dont agree and know better.

I lean towards the thinking of Ayn Rand but know her ideas would never work in our mixed relatively free society, look at the collapse in Atlas Shrugged caused by the liberal left devaluing talent and ability and redistributing wealth to those who do not earn or deserve it, only fiction, but you can already see it beggining to happen now, imagine what it would be like with a liberal president who has already started to talk about the redistribution of wealth.

I know some Libertarians want Obama to get in because the resulting collapse will enable the extreme right to take over sooner, so think about it, Its not as simple as many pudits like to make it sound.

Vote Obama in and regret it, vote McCain and worry about it, you have a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea.

KERT1 :
"Can I ask why people are so mad at Dobson. Isn't this the practice of free speeach that people are so fond of... but his main goal is to strengthen families and spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. He really spends very little time in political things. Please read more about him before you make judgements."

"I am dissappointed people hate the man they say is the hater. To say the least this is hypocritical... What concerns me most is the threat to his freedom of speach."

To continue this line of assertion that Mr. Dobsons' freedom of speech is threatened is weak, and lame. Nobody is threatening his right to say what he feels or believes. Many here, though, disagree with his position, and some find it hypocritical. I do.
I am happy for him to continue freely speaking. It makes it each time more clear how radical he is. He is easy to be critical of BECAUSE of his views, in these arenas at least. He has a long history of formenting division.
I have found him to be actively involved in affecting politics for years.
To hate a man that one hates is not hypocritical of itself. People are natural haters. That is why, I believe, Jesus came to give the message that he delivered. It is far easier to hate than to love. Easier to speak of and with hatred than of and with Love.
I have distaste for Mr. Dobson because he uses his human baseness, mines for darker passions and fears, as the languaging he uses while presenting himself as delivering a message of Christ. By doing so he succeeds only in instilling base human emotion into radical religious dogma of 'right' leaning evangelism. It does no service toward unifying humanity or world peace, or evolution of humanity spiritually toward the compassionate heart of Jesus. In my belief.

TOP 10 REASONS TO OPPOSE GAY MARRIAGE

01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

I continue to be amazed at the numbers of blind followers this ignorant snake-oil salesman controls.

It's always the 'family values' leaders that are strangely fixated on attacking homosexuals, who end up being gay themselves.

I will truly laugh out loud the day the world finds out that Dobson is, in fact, gay.

Unrest,
Good. Then you should understand that Jesus isn't all touchy feely love. He is the Judge as well, lets not forget and sin will be punished. I am amazed that someone can ignore the punishment Jesus will pour out on sinners and then call him all loving.

Dobson is not a prophet and has never claimed to be. You can't just call someone a false prophet because you don't like what he said. Besides, it isn't really hard to predict 4 years down the road. Anyone with a little inteligence can do that. These are called predictions not prophesies. Prophesies should show us things we couldn't deduce from our own knowledge. Stop accusing someone of something they never even claimed.

To KRAD1

Although I am a white person, I feel you are insulting the black people when you say 90% of them are voting for Obama because of his skin color. In fact, that is near the percentage of black people who voted for most Democratic candidates in recent years (since the GOP abandoned the Civil Rights position they held under Lincoln). From what I hear from the many African Americans I know, I would seriously doubt that you would get anywhere near that percentage for Clarence Thomas who, as far as I know is even more black than Obama who is only half black. It is their position on issues that matters and I feel the same. It is YOU who are telling white people to vote for a white man, You are the bigot, not the black people who will stay true to their beliefs. Obam is not far from Clinton in his views and the black people came out heavily for him. I happen to agree with them. I certainly have much more in common with Obama than I do with McCain with whom I share only skin color. What a terrible way to vote. But, having see the last 16 years with 8 under Democrats and 8 under Republicans and I ask which 8 I preferred, it is a no-brainer. I do not blame the past 8 years on GWB as much as I blame them on those who voted for him. We knew what we were getting. He even admitted to being a C-Student. McCain admits to being 5 th or 6th from the bottom of his class. I prefer to have my leaders chosen from the brighter people in the country. The Bible is an interesting source -- Solomon had it right when he chose wisdom as the most important attribute of a leader.

JustTillThen,
Well at least you have a little arguement. I haven't really read one yet. Can you at least explain where he breaks from scripture and dissappoints you? I haven't yet seen anyone even try this.

When people start yelling "hate" and tell him has shouldn't say these things there are "freedom of speech" issues. One only has to look at the possible laws to understand "hate" speech is likely to be banned. This is code for "make him silent". I can see the tone of these writers and it isn't friendly or tolerant. Some outrightly have advocated it others are more subtle. But when I see people hurl insults like this, I know that it is not good news.

I have never seen so much hate and contradictions and hypocrisy, even in just about one third of the responses. I could not read any more of such. Dobson does not hate Obama, homosexuals, or any one else. He hates sin. Jesus Christ and the Apostle Paul taught against sins. That is not hate.

Fact: Dobson was not going to vote for McCain, but then after he learned more about Obama, he had to change his mind and even do more than that. And again, liberals just want to have freedom of speech only for themselves.

Questions for you Obama worshippers: Why is Obama still reluctant to share his certified birth certificate, medical records, school records, university papers, campaign donation records? Why are his wife's university papers suddenly unavailable? Why did he refuse Sean Hannity's invitation to debate for the 3 hours of a day's radio show since he and his famous friends have spoken publicly against Sean? And why has he been the one to emphasize his father's part of his bloodline? And why is he so arrogant and claim that any criticism against him is either trying to create fear or is racist? Why are so many claiming he is a messiah and savior? He is the one trying to divide the USA even more. He and his followers have been much much more hateful and violent than McCain's followers. I don't like McCain either, but I trust him more. Obama is even making Hillary look good to me as deserving to be President. And I was rooting for Obama to win the primaries because I didn't want Hillary and Bill to have the possibility of misusing the White House again. This has been the worse Presidential campaign by far in all of USA history by far. I am exhausted after 21 months.

On November 5th, I will begin emphasizing my Internet counseling and Bible study tools ministries again. I will daily pray for whoever become President and all of their staff. I believe that there could be worldwide tribulation very soon and you hate mongers who commented in this place might be begging the Christians you hate for help. Remember, when tragedy (like Katrina) hits, Christians are the first in to help and the last to leave.

Mr Dobson should not only apologize to the public but more importantly he should repent. God hates liars.

As a christian I find that this "letter" recklessly propagates FEAR and has no relevance to THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Our God is an almighty GOD, why should I fear man? No amount of fear-mongering should make KINGDOM CITIZENS fear Obama. He will only be a President-not a GOD. Needless to say I wish Obama nothing short of Victory.

Being gay is actually normal, and it's not a choice. It's not a "lifestyle". You cant' "make" children gay by letting them read books about gay people or let them have gay teachers.

In the animal world, homosexuality is frequent. It's a natural variation. It's very smug and overbearing to tell gay people they are not "real Americans".

The fictitious letter only goes to show there are really dumb people within the churches, with a sex fixation.

KERT1:

"No where does the Bible encourage people to remove wealth from somebody to help them. This is called stealing an even more basic tenet of Christianity. You can't take someones money away and say I am helping them."

"You may want to study socialism/marxism and find out why the US hasn't ever gone there before."

You are suggesting that Obamas suggested change in the tax code is removing someones wealth. Please. How often in our history have the tax codes been changed to "redistribute wealth"? To give help and breaks here, get more revenue there. Bushs tax code changes have 'redistributed wealth' to the wealthiest.
The tax code is currently written in favor with those of means to be virtually untaxed if they desire. Few such advantages to Joe the Regular Guy.
Obama is not taking someones money and to suggest that is warped. That or ANY taxes are taking someones money. And if that is the case then this plan is just an adjustment of how much money is taxed, and from which someone.
Jesus talked of giving unto Ceasar....
Obama is not going against the Bible, as you wrongly infer from your comment. He also is not seeking to remake America into a marxist/socialist form, as you also wrongly infer.

Why are you Christians so fearful? You think that with Obama in office, we'll be forced to be Muslims,forced to accept Homosexuality and sexual abominations, forced to do things contrary to our beliefs? Why can't ALL of you Christians just
TRUST completely in God? Why can't you just
accept HIS will? You should cast out the spirit of fear and hatred from your lives. Mr. Dobson, will you be the first to cast it out of your own life???

If you do not see the "Sell what you have and give to the poor" or "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven" as telling us which is better, I do not think I can say anything to improve on what Jesus said.

As for equating redistribution of income with Marx, read the Acts of the Apostles and you will see the early Christians did exactly that. Read what happened to Ananias and Saphira when they did NOT turn their property into the common fund. I am really tired for Marx getting credit for the love preached by Christ. Marx's fault to be was being atheistic and forbidding religious freedom. No economic system is a religious matter per se.

I noticed that the last pope condemned both capitalism and communism for their extremes. And, indeed, both seem to see material gain rather than spiritual matters so he has a point.

And, as for as communism (notice the small "c"), I believe we can find it practiced in Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican religious orders (perhaps some more). It may not fit a Calvinistic theory (I will leave it to others to argue this), but it is certainly not un-Christian to "share the wealth" indeed I argue that it is MOST Christian. It is precisely what Jesus told us to do. The story of the man who hires the laborers at different times is a good one to use against those who are so afraid that someone will get more of the pie than they do. Sad.

Before you dismiss all of it as wild thinking, some of it has already happened,
Fact: In Massachusetts, Catholic Charities has had to pull out of the adoption business because it would have otherwise been forced to violate Catholic teaching about homosexuality.
In Lexington, MA, children in primary grades have been forced to use a book in class that presents homosexual marriage as the norm.
This has already happened, as a result of legalizing gay "marriage."
If Obama wins, it is very likely that a Democratic congress will reimpose the "Fairness Doctrine," in order to muzzle conservative talk radio. If you think this is unlikely, you are living in a different universe.

To gehezi126
Why is giving equal time to both sides muzzling? I think this shows that the right really does not believe in the media bias they claim. If they really believed it, they would want a "fairness doctrine" Their idea is to discredit the media so that when they find things wrong, they can blame the media for being against them. As for me, I still remember the 24/7 of Clinton bashing when he was being hounded for his sexual misbehaving. If that was a media biased towards him, I would hate to see one against him.

badkarma
"No. I believe because my heart has been moved to do so. I believe because it is written."
Yours is one of the more thoughtful responses. Your heart has been moved and you believe the bible is the literal word of God. There are many people whose hearts have been moved by different religions and many sacred writting. You are welcome to yours, but neither you nor Dobson are welcome to turn the US into a state that imposes your brand of Christianity on others. You can marry whoever you like; why would you impose your religious beliefs on others who believe in their hearts that their life partner is of the same sex. Allowing homosexuals to marry doesn't affect the stability or lack thereof of heterosexual marriages. You believe that when a sperm and an egg meet to form a cell, they have a sole. That's fine for you. Others don't share that belief, and you want the government to make that decision for everyone. The Catholic Church would outlaw contraception. They can forbid Catholics, but fortunately, they can't forbid others. Would you like to live in Saudi Arabia, where Moslem religious customs are enforced on the population. I'm sure many of their hearts have been moved and they have a book where "it is written." You may believe in your heart that you are right and the rest are wrong. Live the way you believe, but don't make moral decisions for me.

In just a few days, perhaps, the new President that we have chosen may be Barak Obama.

America will have a black President.

What a glorious and wonderful day that will be.

I was born in Virginia in the 1950's and I have carried around the burden of race in my heart as far back as I can remember, even before I was old enough to go to school. Now at last, this day is at hand.

What a glorious and wonderful day.

November 4 will be the most wondrous and stupendous day of my life; I am so proud that I have been blessed to live to see such a thing come to pass in my life-time.

The homophobes, the racists, the Focus-on-the-Family crowd will all have to do some attitude adjustment to get along in America after November 4.

tomfromnj1: Just like Obama, you've got it wrong.

Jesus never spoke to "governments" -- he spoke to individuals. His teaching on giving and caring for others was always directed to the individual's responsibility to his brother.

The government taking care of you is most definitely a socialist form of government.

And Ananias and Saphira were not punished for not giving all their money, they were punished for lying about giving all their money.

To those of you who think Jesus' instructions are to a government, do you then also expect government to answer for you at the day of judgment?

BIBLE_LOVER_BILL
I am not much of one for some of your views, but I am appreciative of others.
I do think that Mr. Dobson hates, and that is clear and evident when I listen to him speak. Not always, but much more often than I like. Rationalizing that if one speaks hatefully against sin they are free of hatred because they are somehow in alignment with Jesus is akin to Crusading against murder and so are free of murdering while they support the death penalty or support preemptive war.

I am not a believer in Biblical Endtimes, and I abhor fundamentalist voices infering Obama is the Antichrist. That is deeply ugly, and deeply warped to vile degree. One could make arguments that George W has done more to slide us toward the Abyss than anyone in recent times. Yet we have a record, with him, to support some of those assertations.
Yet it often is christians that are helping and loving hands to the needy in times of crisis. They have done great good toward those that are in need and it is those acts of love and compassion that are more true to the kind of christianity that I love.
Thank you for your participation in spreading love.

As nearly as I can tell from the divorce statistics, the only threat to traditional marriage seems to be from heterosexuals.

danielinthelionsden: I would agree that it would be a glorious and wonderful day to have a black man as president -- but not an extreme far left radical black man. That's my only problem with Obama.

I would love to vote for the first black president. Skin color has nothing to do with my choice. I've voted against many less liberal white men in my life such as Mondale, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, etc. Why would I now vote for a far more liberal one just because he would be the first black president??

I don't presume to know what Jesus would say about redistributing the wealth, as Obama wants to do. I do know, however, that it is not justice. Discussion is good. But what are we learning from this. We must stop and pray and use wisdom in this election. A great saint, Maximilian Kolbe, who was murdered at Auschwitz concentration camp in place of another man whom he saved, wrote a very enlightened piece about this very subject. He wrote:

"How many volumes have been written about equality among men! How much blood has been spilled for this idea! And yet, in spite of it all, we still have the rich and the poor...
Let us imagine that one day all the inhabitants of the world would assemble to put into effect this sharing of all goods; and that in fact each person, granted that the world is very big, received an exactly equal portion of the wealth existing on the earth.
Then what? That very evening one man might say, 'Today I worked hard: now I am going to take rest.' Another might state, 'I understand this sharing of goods well; so let's drink and celebrate such an extraordinary happening.' On the other hand, another might say, 'Now I am going to set to work with a will so as to reap the greatest benefit I can from what I have received.' And so, starting on the next day, the first man would have only the amount given him; the second would have less, and the third would have increased his.

Then what do we do? Start redistributing the wealth all over again?"

I like to share what I have with those who are in need. But I do it because I want to and I have been very blessed by God. I am not forced by God to do it and certainly am not forced by the government!

We need to be very careful and astute as to whom we vote for. There are many wolves in sheep's clothing vying for our votes. And I believe Barack Obama is the greatest wolf of all! God help us all if he wins!

fr BIBLE_LOVER_BILL:

>...Dobson does not hate Obama, homosexuals, or any one else. He hates sin....

The way dobdork acts towards GLBT's and their families spews HATE. If he's soooo "focused" on "family", why doesn't work to mend ALL broken families, not just WASP heterosexual ones? He's got NO business meddling in the affairs of California, when he is NOT a CA resident, but one VERY poor example of a Colorado resident, esp one who claims to be a Christian.

Tomfromnj writes:He even admitted to being a C-Student. McCain admits to being 5 th or 6th from the bottom of his class. I prefer to have my leaders chosen from the brighter people in the country. The Bible is an interesting source -- Solomon had it right when he chose wisdom as the most important attribute of a leader.

-well, FDR was a C student at Harvard. Jimmy Carter and Nixon(Duke Univ law school) were both braniacs and arguably among the worst presidents. As far as one can see, Solomon wasnt educated at Yale.

snapplecat07: You quote Solomon of the Bible. Do you know what the biblical definition of "wisdom" is?

According to the Bible, "fear of the Lord" is the beginning of wisdom.

This type of wisdom has nothing to do with mental IQs.

JustillThen,
Actually about 40% of Americans pay no tax and they are virtually all poor and lower class. The middle class pays some tax. The upper class pays most of the income tax by far. It is up to 35% now and it will be more under Obama. Tax codes never favor the rich.

Corporations get hosed as well. We have the 2nd highest tax rate for Corporations behind Japan. No wonder jobs goes elsewhere. I believe Exxon Mobile pays more money in taxes than the lowest 60% of individuals.

Obama will use this money for his "social" programs for the poor and will give them a tax rebate, when they didn't even pay tax. At least this is what the policy is.

This is a form of socialism or wealth sharing. Bar none. It has never worked. Taking money from people and giving it to others is stealing. Governments aren't immune from this.

You'll probably get your wish and Obama. I have resolved it's coming. If you want a glimpse of what is to come, just look at the Jimmy Carter years. Except Obama is much more liberal and we already much of Carters policy in place already.

To SeekTruth

I believe that the government is US (as in by, of, and for the people). SO when you say morality is in the Bible for individuals but not the government, are you like those who say they oppose abortion privately but it is OK for the government? That seems to follow from your argument.

You come across to me as the thing Jesus condemned in the Pharisees about splitting hairs.

And as for Ananias and Saphira, it is true that they lied and were punished, but the thing that the early Christians did was live a communistic life. That is like making the distinction about Clinton lying or what he lied about -- both are wrong but it is splitting hairs (by the way, I did not think either worth of impeachment).

I think this idea of sharing the wealth is a VERY CHRISTIAN principle going back to the earliest days before there were the different denominations so it should be a part of all Christian traditions who respect the Acts of the Apostles. But please look beyond technicalities to how they showed their love for one another. And as a country, I think we should do the same. I know I am not able to find the neediest among us, but I can contribute taxes to the government which has the ability to do so and when we all pull our resources that waay, we can do better. Yes, we can also do this through our churches, the red cross, etc. BUT the government is of, by, and for each of us. Unfortunately, the greedy folks who want to keep all they make have painted the government to be bad guys (not unlike they try to paint the media as bad). Are there government officials who are evil? Without a doubt. But Jesus had His Judas and that did not make him disband the Apostles. I'm with Lincoln with his of, by, and for the people so when some people act like the government is evil (or as Reagan claimed was the problem) , then I resent that They are talking about "US" and I am part of the "us."

SeekTruth

Why do you think Obama is "an extreme far left radical black man?"

To me, he is reasonable, educated, broadminded, good and fair. I think that what you do not like about him is his black skin.

After all, the Republican Party is more than 99% white; there were only 36 black delegates at the Republican Convention. For whatever reason, black people are not welcome in the Republican Party and do not participate in it.

You would vote for black man for President, if he were a Conservative Republican. BUT, that will NEVER happen.

Even Colin Powell, the most prominent black Republican in the country, has had all he can take from this ALL-white party.

Is Hell an immoral institution that should be shut down? Should we approve of such a torture camp?

Note that many of Dobson's predictions are predicated on CURRENT rulings by courts in this country or in Canada. The only thing farfetched about his letter is the date: 2012 is probably too late. And please note, communism/socialism as REQUIRED redistribution has never been condoned by Christianity. Taxation is just, so is private property. Prudential balance is called for in accord with the common good. Excessive taxation is unjust, as is forced redistribution, as would be a complete unwillingness to address the common good of society by paying one's share. Prudence requires that a balance be kept between the free exercise of personal initiative and the needs of common defense and infrastructure, as well as the needs of those least who can't provide for themselves. Christian ethics in no way countenances a general leveling of society by redistribution of wealth. ...And...please, Ananias and Sephira were guilty of deception and were punished for deceiving the Church, not for not forking over their goods. The early Christians of Jerusalem sold their property in anticipation of its coming destruction (in 70 AD) and VOLUNTARILY gave to each other.

JohnTBaptist

We are not arguing over socialism or communism; these are just more McCain / Palin Republican lies. Obama is a pretty standard American politician.

What we are arguing over is race. You do not like Obama because he does not have any attributes of a Republican. But since the Republican Party is over 99% white, you are not likely ever to find any black politicain that you would ever vote for.

Have you ever questioned "what's wrong with this picture?"

I think racism is insidious, but it has a hold of you. Why don't you do the right thing and vote for Obama? You will see that the sky will not fall in, the world will not end; give it a thought.

KERT1 :
Thank you for the response. I would be surprised if some of your numbers are correct, but I have not done that research. I thought that nearer 15% paid no taxes. Yet you are involved in some sleight of hand here. I was responding to your post on redistribution of wealth and your inference that Obama was stealing, and going contrary to the Bible, etc. I am talking of actual dollars in amount. You are speaking of tax RATE.
It has long been the middle class that gives the greater percentage of revenue via taxes. The wealthy hide and protect, and per amount give far less that the middle class, being the bulk of the population. Corporate tax RATE is high, but that is on profits after all expenses, (EVERYTHING), are deducted and all tax breaks, (abundant), are deducted. And after all divertable funds go to offshore accounts....
The tax code is written to benefit corporations and the wealthy, you are sure to know.... Special interest groups have had a heyday in Washington, and continue to. Your continued reference to "stealing money" is understood, but inaccurate. It is redistribution of tax burden.
Thank your Bush administration. Would that McCain had been nominated to the Republican ticket in 2000...

NLEGGETT

You wrote, "Is Hell an immoral institution that should be shut down? Should we approve of such a torture camp?", since apparently you know nothing about hell, how can you ask this question?

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

Justillthen writes:It has long been the middle class that gives the greater percentage of revenue via taxes. The wealthy hide and protect, and per amount give far less that the middle class, being the bulk of the population. Corporate tax RATE is high, but that is on profits after all expenses, (EVERYTHING), are deducted and all tax breaks, (abundant), are deducted. And after all divertable funds go to offshore accounts....
The tax code is written to benefit corporations and the wealthy,

---we do live in a capitalist society and there will be wealth and poverty. What you seem to be seeking is Socialism, which is Obama. Of course then you you will be arguing about "fairness" and"equality", which again was mao's and Stalins mantra but the hidden meaning in there creepy ideology was always "my equality" and "what I think is fair". Give Obama time, we eventually will be like Canada.

The Republicans are such hypocrits!

I am a Christian. I have studied the Bible for more than a decade. I know what the Bible says. Basics: Love God with all your heart, mind, soul & strength. Love your neighbor as yourself.

How does lying about someone's character fit into this? How does fear mongering fit into this? No, the Republican "Christian" powers that be in this country have been corrupted (power corrupts) and will spew endless lies to make people afraid of Obama. Fellow Christians, examine these people and their remarks and examine God's Word to see if their fear-mongering and lies are godly or not. Ask God for wisdom and understanding.

JustTillThen,
Thanks for agreeing with me mostly.

clarifications.

The tax rate for corporations is on profit. Like every other country. Still 2nd highest in the world. Of course there are many tax breaks given but this is not the tax code. These are favors by politicians but you pretty much have to get them to compete, since (as I said) we have the 2nd highest corporate tax rate. We should simply lower taxes and make people pay the rate.

In fact all people get tax break deductions, including individuals (like itemizing deductions). Your actual tax rate is much lower after deductions. I don't like this system, since it leads to coruption but it is what it is. I don't blame anybody or corporation for taking all deductions they are allowed. We already pay enought taxes, unless you are poor and pay nothing.

Giving money back to people who pay no taxes is very disturbing. I can't see this as anything else than steeling, especially when the Bible clearly states you need to work for money. This is definitely a form of socialism and will be damaging to people.

The middle class does pay its fair share of taxes but even middle class often pay nothing. I don't know if they pay the most, but if they do that is because they are by far the largest class. Their actual rates are currently pretty low and I have no complaints.

I am concerned that rich people will not be allowed to be rich and create jobs and give generously. They are much better managers of money that the government.

SEEKTRUTH

In your reply to snapplecat07, you wrote, "According to the Bible, "fear of the Lord" is the beginning of wisdom.

This type of wisdom has nothing to do with mental IQs."

And I would like to add that "fear of the Lord" has absolutely nothing to do with being afraid of God but refers to being in reverence and awe of God, some may not know this.

Actually after meeting God, I wondered about the phrase, "fear of the Lord" so I looked it up in the regular dictionary because I could see no reason for being afraid of a BEING OF PURE LOVE.

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

Here in Texas 1 in 4 people believe that Obama is a Muslim or/and Obama was born in Nigeria and his birth certificate was secretly doctored,etc.
It's about race,y'all.We've become so nazi-like in our pcness that no white person wants to even confess in his dreams that he has racist beliefs or thoughts, so it's easier to believe silly rumors to justify not voting for a black man.

There's nothing wrong with being racist or having racist thoughts;we all have them sometimes. First it has to be admitted to and faced headlong.As long as it's examined to find the root cause and be open to being proven wrong or seeing that there are probably differing cultural perceptions then it'll be resolved naturally.

Hiding from these thoughts causes a lot of damage; like people purposely dating someone of the race or ethnicity they secretly despise to prove that they are beyond inculcated prejudices.

The other result is self hatred and preferring everything 'other'and 'exotic' as a show of misguided tolerance. USually this means looking at unacceptable behavior and saying that it's okay if they beat their women/sell drugs etc because it's part of their culture.They can't help being that way. No one respects or trust a person who hates his own people and will willingly give up their own culture to pretend to be someone else's.

The most dangerous result of this hiding in the sand,are the skinheads. No one likes to admit that they have a right to be angry. They feel rightfully threatened; no one likes to imagine that their people are being outnumbered against there will(small towns flooded by immigrants that are radically different from them), and that as a result their own people are in danger of disappearing from the face of the earth.The answer is to allow them to be angry and but find a way to work through it, not ignore them to stew in their anger and then feel superior and pc for not being like 'them'.
Time to own up to the madness

Remember, believers:
If Obama becomes President, IT'S GOD'S WILL AND YOU MUST ACCEPT IT!!
HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

PierreJC2,
Well I have to agree with you there. The Bible is clear God does have ultimate control over our government leaders.

Keep in mind something, God allows us to have bad leaders too. Hitler and Mussilini were also God's will. Maybe not what he really wanted but he allowed them because that's what people wanted. Remember King Saul. The people wanted him and they got him and see how that worked out.

I think ultimately God gives us what we want but what we want isn't always good.

Dobson IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY!

Barack Hussein Obama is a practicing Socialist Marxist. He will FORCE HIS VIEWS AND POLICIES ON EVERYONE ELSE with the standard rap: "...it's for your own good...".

His 'tolerance of' and 'affiliations with' those who are self proclaimed Marxists Socialists is well documented by Obama himself.

In his own book regarding his 'mentor'. His long friendships with William Ayers, Khalidi, His Father, Rev.Wright, and on and on..

In my entire 47 years I have only met 1, maybe 2, true blood Marxists Socialists. Yet Obama is BIG TIME FRIENDS WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM FOR 20 YEARS!

Pathetic SNOW JOB perpetrated on the NORMAL DEMOCRATS.

I am a christian but not a Dobson supporter. I do not take my cues from any man. My cues come from my Savior. Jesus did not treat sinners with disdain or rejection. The only people he treated harshly were the hypocrites who felt they were so righteous they could not associate with sinners.
Remember when the pharisee and the publican went in the temple to pray. The pharisee was so self righteous . He thanked God that he was not like the publican and started to list all the good things he had done. The publican lifted up his voice and asked God to forgive him for his sins. Jesus then asked the question who do you think was more worthy.
Sexual sins are not the only sins. No sin is greater than the other. Bearing false witness seems to be so prevalent . We blatantly lie about people and yet the Bible tells us that no liar will be a part of His kingdom.
As a christian with deep christian values I can say that I do not understand homosexuality. I can take the easy way out and say the Bible says it is a sin and people should be stoned but it also says the same thing about adultery. The woman who was caught in adultery was brought to Jesus to be stoned but Jesus turned the tables on those hypocrites who to my understanding were the very same ones who led this woman into sin. Go back to your Bible and see how He treated the woman and her accusers.
This conversation it seems to be is less about christinity and more about politics. Apparently if you do not tow the Republican line you are a heathen, a muslim lover destined for hell. My Jesus did not save me so that I can hate someone who does not believe the same thing that I believe. The hate and vitriol that is being spewed is not christian and I am sure that the Lord is not pleased. God bless.

Dobson is so wrong that it is scary! It is a shame that he is attending to frighten people into voting for John McCain and the Republicans. When I look at what many Republican candidates have done it appears to be that they are so far from practicing Christian principles that I wonder how anyone who says they are Christian could possible vote for them. Torture,racism, corruption, not wanting to help people in need. This is not the Christianity that I know. As a serious Christian who really wants to be Christ- like I will be voting for Barack Obama!

Kert1:
Excellent point!
God also kills helpless little babies, sometimes by the thousands (remember the Boxing Day Tsunami?), but we shouldn't mind, because it's God judgement that when babies die, the little brats are getting EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESERVE.
Yes, that God sure is wise.

The trend here is those who are UNGODLY are voting for Obama and the GODLY for MCCain.

It seems the DEVIL crowd will win so let's see how the U.S would fall from the grace of God.

America's next 4 years would be TOTAL DOOM AND GLOOMY.

Nobody messes with God. Those who did never escaped his WRATH.

snapplecat07 Author Profile Page:
"What you seem to be seeking is Socialism, which is Obama. Of course then you you will be arguing about "fairness" and"equality", which again was mao's and Stalins mantra but the hidden meaning in there creepy ideology was always "my equality" and "what I think is fair". Give Obama time, we eventually will be like Canada."

How you make these leaps of assumption of what I am seeking from what I posted is amazing. One, Obama does not equate with socialism, and all you twisters that spread these falacies, and others, are not the cure but the sickness. Two, there is validity to socialized systems, and we can see them working around the world effectively. Canada, Italy, Sweden, have socialized programs that serve the people well. Not as a fully implemented form of government, but then this democracy, which is great, has some serious problems. As we see. Three, my post was a rebuttal to Kert1 who suggested Obamas tax program was theft. Then McCains is as well, and Bushs' before that, as they were other formulas for "redistribution of wealth" by altering the tax code to serve their own visions of what will help America.
Get real.

Anyone who has read the Gospels will vote for Obama. On Nov 5, a new bright dawn will usher in hope, for we will no longer be ruled by evil persons spreading a pall of corruption and utter power over our fair land, crushing freedom in the name of greed. Obama will walk the walk of what our Risen Lord taught.

snapplecat07 Author Profile Page:
"What you seem to be seeking is Socialism, which is Obama. Of course then you you will be arguing about "fairness" and"equality", which again was mao's and Stalins mantra but the hidden meaning in there creepy ideology was always "my equality" and "what I think is fair". Give Obama time, we eventually will be like Canada."

How you make these leaps of assumption of what I am seeking from what I posted is amazing. One, Obama does not equate with socialism, and all you twisters that spread these falacies, and others, are not the cure but the sickness. Two, there is validity to socialized systems, and we can see them working around the world effectively. Canada, Italy, Sweden, have socialized programs that serve the people well. Not as a fully implemented form of government, but then this democracy, which is great, has some serious problems. As we see. Three, my post was a rebuttal to Kert1 who suggested Obamas tax program was theft. Then McCains is as well, and Bushs' before that, as they were other formulas for "redistribution of wealth" by altering the tax code to serve their own visions of what will help America.
Get real.

Obama is asking too much of Christian voters. He said, "Well, the first thing I'd do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That's the first thing that I'd do." Well that's a terrible thing to do first thing in The White House - sign a death penalty for millions of American babies - many of them black.

This is asking a lot to accept for a practicing Catholic or any believing Christian.

If we are to take Obama at his word, his first priority as president is to serve an early death sentence on millions of unborn American children.

In one hand Obama offers lower income taxes. In the other hand he wants blood of aborted children - 50% black! As a result, Obama's death signing is a form of genocide.

And we want God to bless America?? I doubt it!! Not with such a calculated evil intention by presidential fiat that promotes genocide!

Batten down the hatches! it's going to be a rough ride for four years! You would think politicians like Obama have learned the value of human life after witnessing 9/11, Hurricane Katrina and the Iraq War. But I guess it's going to have to take more intense catastrophes to get America's attention about the value of human life.

Obama may not be a Moslem, but he sure is not acting like a true Christian who must obey the fifth commandment -- "Thou Shalt Not Kill!"

ooooggggaaaahhhhaaaa booooogaaaahaaa! Dobson's white neochristian god of love will fry you in hell if you are a socialist (except of course Republicans who socialized Wall Street losses and nationalized AIG.) Dobson's homophobic god ignores the definition of socialism: "a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society." (Wikipedia) - like preemptive war, torture and capital punishment are OK for intolerant white Palin Dobsonites who are above their own twisted god's law like Prime Minister Cheney.

Will someone please scan Dobson's left brain lobe to certify he is a frustrated angry closet gay who overcompensates by spewing his hatred in the name of poor Jesus?

As for the hateful, white neochristian god of Spidermean, Palin, Liberty University and the Dobsonites, I don't think you really exist but are merely conjured up by these cretins to perpetuate hate and fear. My only fear of you is that one day I will need to go out and buy a gun to defend myself from the neo-nazi bullying by your followers. Their interpretation of your bible is a manipulative joke. I renounce you and them as the hateful myth that they perpetuate.

Clarendon67:
"My Jesus did not save me so that I can hate someone who does not believe the same thing that I believe."

God love you for that simple truth.

As an intelligent Christian, I believe we were given brains so that we could use them to do God's work on earth. Therefore; I am so tired of hearing this nonsense about how Barak Obama is a socialist, muslim, wants to redistribute wealth, etc.; how John McCain is a Nazi and Sarah Palin is stupid, etc.

1) God has nothing to do with socialism, capitalism, democracy, monarchy, dictatorship, or any other "ism." These are purely man's creations.

2) If people don't want taxes, then they would prefer anarchy over government. If the law of the jungle prevailed, I suspect the strong construction worker would have a major advantage over the pencil-necked, idle rich...who wouldn't remain rich very long!

3) Taxation is not a redistribution of wealth, it is a levy by a government that exists, by the consent of the governed, to provide services for the governed, that they cannot provide for themselves, and cannot be provided efficiently through private enterprise.

4) In a democratic government such as ours, public goods, for which taxes are levied, as well as how the taxes are levied, are defined by periodic elections. The United States Constitution provides for checks and balances in government to protect minority rights from tyranny by the majority, while still allowing majority rule. If those elected to government fail in what they are elected to do, they are voted out by their constituency. If they intrude to far on the minority, they are overruled by the Supreme Court

5) In 2001, A Republican president and a Republican Congress enacted a TEMPORARY tax cut to ward off a recession. FYI, John McCain voted against that tax cut because it disproportionately benefited the wealthy! The war against Bin Laden that was forced upon us, and the war in Iraq that we foolishly chose to begin, on top of the temporary tax cut has most certainly damaged our government's financial situation!

6) Anybody that has a job pays taxes. They may not pay federal income tax, but they pay FICA, Medicaid, State, and sometimes municipal taxes, and they do have to file a federal tax return. Some of these people may own homes, for which they pay local property taxes (aka people, whose jobs went overseas and had to take lower paying jobs). If there is anybody who needs help in this economic environment, it would be people who work but don't make enough money to pay federal income taxes. What do you suppose Jesus would do!?

7) Obama's "Socialist" tax plan is to allow the temporary tax cut that disproportionately benefited the wealthy to expire, as originally planed, and cut taxes on those making less than $200,000.00 a year. Considering the fact that anybody who makes over $90,000 a year does not pay FICA or Medicaid taxes over that amount, that's not a bad deal. Since a "refundable" tax credit could only go to people who file federal tax returns, it is highly unlikely that the crack dealer on the corner will get a "welfare" check.

8) Our volunteer soldiers, fighting in our wars, are disproportionately from families that did not benefit from the Bush tax cuts. On the other hand, those who did benefit, haven't sent their kids to be in harm's way, nor have they been asked to pay for it.

9) John McCain's plan to use tax payer money to buy mortgages, at face value, for people who made stupid decisions is a "socialist" redistribution of wealth to unscrupulous bankers and greedy speculators.

10) John McCain's Health care plan involves taxing health care benefits for the first time in history. He will give a uniform tax credit in return but he does not prevent insurance companies for discriminating against pre-existing conditions, nor does he require uniform cost. Imagine a 50 year old Steelworker trying to buy health insurance for $2,500 a year!

11) A market economy depends on consumption. consumption depends on demand, which depends on purchasing power. Jobs are created to produce the goods that consumers demand. If the consumer base does not have the money to consume because their job went to Mexico or China, or all their money is going into health care, or gas to get to work, etc. No jobs will be created no matter how big a tax break you give to business. "Joe the Plumber" may get taxed under Obama's plan, but he will be in bankruptcy court under McCain's plan because nobody can afford his services!

I am sure that Senator McCain sincerely believes that his policies are best for the country. I believe that Senator McCain is patriotic and loves this country, and he has certainly suffered heroically for it. I believe Governor Palin is also sincere in her beliefs; I disagree with them, and I do not think that she has the experience or education to step in should, God forbid, something happen to John McCain, if he is elected.

I do take great issue with people, on both sides, who equate intellectual differences regarding public policy, with treason, which is essentially what many of these posts suggest!

Four patriots, who love this country, are competing to lead it. They have different ideas and different visions, but it is not really about them, it is about the people of this country.

I have voted for Senator Obama and Senator Biden because I believe they have the best ideas to lead our country forward. On November 5th, I will wake up and go about my normal business, confident that somebody who loved his country enough to go through this campaign process and withstand the partisan vitriol I have seen in these posts, will be president and will do the best he can, as God gives him the light to see. It may be the person who I voted for, or it may be the other candidate? Either way, he will be my President!

Jesus said give to Ceaser what is Ceaser's and give to God what is God's. Sounds like separation of church and state to me.

In all the criticisms of the Republicans which are plentiful at On Faith, very little attention has been paid to Senator Obama's commitment to Roe vs. Wade without compromise, as so forcefully revealed in his address to Planned Parenthood, Abortion is to be part of the necessary provisions to enable women to realize their full potential. He mentions, among others, "paid leaves' of absence so that all the provisions are not necessarily confined to taxes, but many of these costs are anathema to small business, local school boards, and the like.

"Obama's Abortion Extremism" is a detailed critique of the Senator's position by Robert George. This article, along with the presentation to Planned Parenthood, could have provided helpful subject matter during these recent weeks before the election. Yet, the media has dismissed abortion as having been overridden by the economy, and so it is not covered to the extent it should be.

Frankly, I think the Senator has made a terrible mistake is his commitment to abortion - "I will not yield, and Planned Parenthood will not yield!" It still remains a divisive issue and I don't see his position as serving the country well.

" MaryMiserable Author Profile Page:

"In all the criticisms of the Republicans which are plentiful at On Faith, very little attention has been paid to Senator Obama's commitment to Roe vs. Wade without compromise,"

The notion of overturning Roe v Wade isn't one and the same as 'Criminalizing abortion,' ...and sustaining it as a ruling which guarantees our right to privacy as American citizens does not mean 'Any kind of abortion on demand is mandatory.'

Obama is an expert in Constitutional law, and there are repercussions beyond the wedge issue of abortion and hyperbole about such that are to be considered.

Claims he supports late term abortion 'on demand' are quite simply, lies.

Just because some people have an actual *plan* to reduce abortions in the real world doesn't mean they're 'pro-abortion.

Republicans may think it's a great idea to renounce the idea of a right to privacy in order to intrude their religious ideology into the lives of other Americans, our very bodies, even, but Roe v. Wade *should* be non-negotiable. For all of us.

Few Americans *like* abortion, and removing civil rights will not, and does not, help reduce them.

Since, in this democracy, we do not all agree, this should *not* be a winner-take-all issue. Especially not at the cost of our liberty.

There are other ways to work this out. Together.

Screaming moral absolutism doesn't 'save' a single poor woman, or child born into bad circumstance.

Let's vote for the reality-based guy. And, yes, work on it. Criminalizing unwanted pregnancies does *not* help.

That doesn't mean there's nothing to be done.

Let's support mothers and children. And choice.

In my experience, women *with* a real choice choose other than abortion.

And, back to the fictitious 'Focus on the family' letter.

Doesn't it bother any of you that it is in fact based on lies?

Great post PaganPlace!!

If I may paraphrase just a bit:

Let's support mothers and children and freedom.

Paganplace,

You have outdone yourself. Well done, indeed!

The basis of civilization is this: women and children first.

- - paraphrased from Lazarus Long

I also want to comment on Mary Miserable.

THe pro-life people suffer from "hubris" that they know the answers to everything. But it is a complicated issue, and when I hear the term "baby-killer" that person has immediately lost credibility, and then just becomes a pest.

And that is what Mary Miserable is, an increasingly bothersome pest, as though, if she can heckle enough blogs with her childish silliness, then Jesus will love her more, for all her efforts, and for all her pretend suffereing on behalf of the aborted fetuses.

But, I do not think it works that way.

This is a momentous occaision, that a black family may move into the White House. Black people were good enough to build the White House; they have just never been good enough to live in it. Now the time is almost here, and what is Mary Miserable, but a heckling pest, who does not get it.

I will say that she has picked an appropriate name for herself.

Enough of this fearmongering and desecration of the name of Christ in favor of a political party!!

"The Conservative Christian Case for Supporting Obama"
http://opinionstreams.com/blog/?p=65

Read it! And share it with as many people as you can. The time for countering fear with fact is quickly drawing to a close...

Here is the biblical answer to both pro life and pro choice based on the word of God, the Bible.
In Genesis chapter 2 verse 7 “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”
Sorry people, until it breathes, it is not a living soul. By the way I don’t believe in abortion. I put my life on the line to have my daughter although medically the Doctors were in favor of abortion. I made my choice. I am pro choice. So quit trying to force your choice on me and other women. The choice of abortion or non abortion belongs to the woman who is pregnant not you.

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