Dobson, Whoopi and Waffles
Christian Right icon James Dobson went on the air Tuesday to scold Whoopi Goldberg and ABC's "The View" for linking him and his organization, Focus on the Family, to a gag product that ridicules Barack Obama, African-Americans, Hispanics and Muslims.
Goldberg and her co-hosts discussed the product, Obama Waffles, last week on their show. "Last Saturday, conservative groups American Values and Focus on the Family sponsored a Values Voters Summit that offered something called Obama Waffles for sale," Goldberg told viewers while showing pictures of the product. A co-host asked, "Who did this? Dobson's Family Council?" Goldberg said yes.
"We had absolutely nothing to do with the Obama Waffles," Dobson explained on his daily radio show broadcast on more than 4,000 stations nationwide. "This is a classic example of the liberal media attempting to marginalize us and other conservative voices in a political season," Dobson said.
Conservative bias meet liberal bias. Goldberg and company apparently didn't bother to check whether Dobson actually was involved in the gag (he wasn't). Dobson didn't bother to mention that the two men who created Obama Waffles used to work for Focus on the Family. And the culture war goes on, as insults are added to injuries both real and perceived, perpetuating a climate in which someone can dream up something as repugnant as Obama Waffles and try to sell it at a "values" conference.
The waffle makers, Bob DeMoss and Mark Whitlock, say they were trying to be funny when they took their cheap shot at Obama. "Our intent from the beginning was simply political satire and comedy to highlight the debate surrounding Senator Obama's waffling. Nothing more. Nothing less. We truly regret that anyone has misinterpreted this satire," the two men said in a statement on their website.
As Dan Rather, lion of the liberal media, might put it, you'd have to be dumber than a bag of hammers to misinterpret Obama Waffles, which ridicule Obama's race and perpetuate the lie that he is a Muslim. Satire should sting, not sucker punch: "By presenting a mad or contemptible partisan sentiment as a mainstream one . . . (it) unwittingly reiterated the misconception it meant to lampoon."
That was Lee Siegel's explanation for why the New Yorker's July cover cartoon of the Obamas failed in its attempt at satire. It's the reason Pat Oliphant's recent cartoon making fun of Sarah Palin's Pentecostal influences was so offensive. And it's the reason Obama Waffles failed. True satire is not smug derision.
Obama Waffles were so derisive and contemptuous they were condemned by the ultra-conservative Family Research Council, one of the co-sponsors of the Values Voters Summit where DeMoss and Whitlock tried to sell their gag-me gifts earlier this month. FRC officials told DeMoss and Whitlock to leave the exhibit area and dismantled their booth. "We strongly condemn the tone and content of materials that were exhibited by one of the vendors at this weekend's Values Voters Summit. The materials represent an attempt at parody that crosses the line into coarseness and bias," FRC's David Nammo said.
Not to mention racism and bigotry.
On their website, the Obama Waffles makers complained that most news stories haven't mentioned that DeMoss is married to a Hispanic woman and Whitlock and his wife have adopted a daughter from China. "Is that what racists do?" they ask.
No, but are Obama Waffles what Christians do?
On his blog, Whitlock, whose Christian book credits include "50 Nights of Family Fun" and "Very Veggie Family Adventures," wrote about the power of stories and songs to convey the Christian message. "Our culture screams, 'Tell me a better story and then I'll believe in Jesus.'"
Obama Waffles are not a better story.
David Waters
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Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 4:18 PM
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Waffles that "ridicule Obama's race and perpetuate the lie that he is a Muslim"? Racist waffles that only a bigot would put a fork in?
I had to see this so I went to the link you gave. The waffles aren't chocolate. They look like a regular waffle. What a huge spin you put on this.
From the site
"Whether you’re clinging to God and your guns in Pennsylvania or just hungry for a change in one of the other 57 states, Obama Waffles are what the world is craving."
Posted by: marie | September 24, 2008 4:44 PM
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Sorry, David, but Oliphant's cartoon was funny because it makes fun of stupidity. The New Yorker cartoon was not funny because it forgot about the stupidity.
Posted by: Cooder | September 24, 2008 5:33 PM
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Obama Waffles are just one more example of the hate spewed by so-called christians of the religious right. It's time someone called these people what they are, poor dumb rednecks.
Posted by: LJC | September 24, 2008 5:57 PM
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"Obama Waffles" sounds a whole lot like Uncle Ben's Rice or Aunt Jemima Pancakes: They aren't necessarily meant as slurs, but are demeaning nonetheless because they cast minorities - albeit fictional characters - into stereotyped roles as servants.
Yea, Obama may waffle on issues from time to time - just like McCain and every other politician. But let's find a better, more race-neutral way to use parody (and I'm a huge fan of parody, used toward liberal and conservative alike).
Posted by: Enemy Of The State | September 24, 2008 6:56 PM
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Dobson is just po'd because his god didn't rain on obama's parade at the convention in denver.
Oh, and because his boyfriends in Minneapolis told him they were too ashamed to be seen with him any more.
Dobson asked Whoopi out on a date once, trying to prove that he's not a racist and not a homosexual at the same time.
Posted by: associate christ | September 24, 2008 9:13 PM
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Whoopi's views on Focus on the Family are well known. Her stance did not surprise those who knnow her and it was wrong and David you are wrong in trying to even-hand o it. What if those guys worked for the Focus on the Family or Washington Post for that matter? You better wake up to the implications of inferring on tit bits. This is not journalism at its best.
Posted by: Costas | September 25, 2008 12:52 AM
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I think Mr. Dobson is incorrect in his use of the term marginalize. IMHO, the ultra conservative segment of our population have been effective in their own marginalization for their extreme and intolerant views.
Thankfully, this does create so many opportunities for humor that the 'liberal media' just can't help but take advantage.
Posted by: confused | September 25, 2008 3:38 AM
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How about "Dobson Douchebags"
I think that would just be a satirical joke, too.
Posted by: Roy | September 25, 2008 7:45 AM
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It doesn't matter onw whit where those guys work to carry a charge a racial insensitivity.
What matters is that an organization who sponsors a "Value Voters Summit", by that very act endorses what does on there. And Dobson can wriggle on that hook as much as he likes, but he's still on there.
What is relevant is that the guys USED to work for FoF. What we can imply from that information is that the attitudes they expressed might not be that uncommon in the Colorado Springs zip code of 80995.
And Whoopi Goldberg expressed stong ( all be it wrong ) opinions? I don't think we need to hold the presses for that revelation.
Posted by: Inga | September 25, 2008 8:05 AM
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Roy thinks
"(dobson douchebags) would just be a satirical joke, too."
Google Search Results 1 - 10 of about 20,500 for Dobson Douchebags.
ROY-
That's stale.
Posted by: jon | September 25, 2008 8:56 AM
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Um, I think a lot of you people are missing the point. It's a JOKE! It's FUNNY! Get over your stupid, hypocritical, liberal humorlessness. If Obama can't take a joke about his incessant waffling without having a screechy fit, how's he supposed to deal with Hugo Chavez?
Posted by: Eggy | September 25, 2008 9:14 AM
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jon:
Roy thinks
"(dobson douchebags) would just be a satirical joke, too."
Google Search Results 1 - 10 of about 20,500 for Dobson Douchebags.
ROY-
That's stale.
JON,
Please let me clarify. The internet references were in regard to Dobson's followers.
My suggestion is for an actual product with the old fat Pharisee's likeness stamped on latex rubber. That wouldn't be as stale as Obama Waffles unless one is referring to the graffiti on the condom machine that says "This gum is stale"
Thank you.
Posted by: Roy | September 25, 2008 11:37 AM
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I HAVE CLEARLY SHOWN THAT THOSE OF THE FAITH OF ABRAHAM do not know their brother. A Hebrew Servant is not a slave, that is thinking in the physical real, but in them that think in the spiritual realm, a Hebrew servant is a student taught by the sons of the House of Aaron.
“HE WAS SEEN OF JAMES”
“For I am THE LEAST of the apostles”
“AND LAST OF ALL HE WAS SEEN OF ME ALSO”
“GIDEON SAID UNTO HIM, OH MY LORD”
“I am THE LEAST IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE”
“THAT YE WOULD GIVE ME EVERY MAN THE EARRINGS OF HIS PREY”
“FOR THEY HAD GOLDEN EARRINGS, BECAUSE THEY WERE ISHMAELITES.”
“and DID CAST THEREIN EVERY MAN THE EARRINGS OF HIS PREY.”
HEADS CROWNS OF GOLD
Zechariah 3
And the angel of the Lord protested unto Joshua, saying,
Thus saith the Lord of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by.
Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the Branch.
For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.
“HEAR NOW”
“I will bring forth my servant the Branch”
“For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua”
“upon one stone shall be seven eyes”
“behold, I will engrave the graving thereof”
”saith the Lord of hosts”
”I WILL REMOVE THE INIQUITY OF THAT LAND IN ONE DAY.”
“In that day, saith the Lord of hosts”
“SHALL YE CALL EVERY MAN HIS NEIGHBOUR UNDER THE VINE AND UNDER THE FIG TREE.”
And Judah and Israel dwelt safely, every man under his vine and under his fig tree, from Dan even to Beersheba, all the days of Solomon.
And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
And those officers provided victual for king Solomon, and for all that came unto king Solomon's table, every man in his month: they lacked nothing.
Barley also and straw for the horses and dromedaries brought they unto the place where the officers were, every man according to his charge.
And God gave Solomon wisdom and understanding exceeding much, and largeness of heart, even as the sand that is on the sea shore.
And Solomon's wisdom excelled the wisdom of all the children of the east country, and all the wisdom of Egypt.
For he was wiser than all men; than Ethan the Ezrahite, and Heman, and Chalcol, and Darda, the sons of Mahol: and his fame was in all nations round about.
And he spake three thousand proverbs: and his songs were a thousand and five.
And he spake of trees, from the cedar tree that is in Lebanon even unto the hyssop that springeth out of the wall: he spake also of beasts, and of fowl, and of creeping things, and of fishes.
And there came of all people to hear the wisdom of Solomon, from all kings of the earth, which had heard of his wisdom.
“And Judah and Israel dwelt safely”
“every man under his vine and under his fig tree”
“from Dan even to Beersheba”
“all the days of Solomon”
“Solomon wisdom and understanding exceeding much”
“and largeness of heart”
”as the sand that is on the sea shore”
the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him
the spirit of wisdom and understanding
the spirit of counsel and might
the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord
And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord
But with righteousness shall he judge the poor
and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth
for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
it shall come to pass in that day,
THE LORD SHALL SET HIS HAND AGAIN THE SECOND TIME
to recover the remnant of his people
he shall set up an ensign for the nations
and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel
and gather together the dispersed of Judah
the four corners of the earth
the Lord shall utterly destroy the tongues
there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people
And in that day thou shalt say
O Lord, I will praise thee
Behold, GOD IS MY SALVATION
I WILL TRUST, AND NOT BE AFRAID
THEREFORE WITH JOY SHALL YE DRAW WATER OUT OF THE WELLS OF SALVATION.
PRAISE THE LORD
CALL UPON HIS NAME
SING UNTO THE LORD
I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee.
Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
“Kiss the son”
“lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way”
“when his wrath is kindled but a little”
“Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”
THE WORDS OF THE PREACHER, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
“How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity?”
“and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?”
“Turn you at my reproof: behold”
“I will pour out my spirit unto you”
“I will make known my words unto you.”
“BECAUSE I HAVE CALLED, AND YE REFUSED”
“I HAVE STRETCHED OUT MY HAND”
“AND NO MAN REGARDED;”
“BUT WHOSO HEARKENETH UNTO ME SHALL DWELL SAFELY”
”AND SHALL BE QUIET FROM FEAR OF EVIL”
For God giveth to a man that is good in his sight wisdom, and knowledge, and joy: but to the sinner he giveth travail, to gather and to heap up, that he may give to him that is good before God. This also is vanity and vexation of spirit.
“GOD GIVETH TO A MAN THAT IS GOOD IN HIS SIGHT WISDOM, AND KNOWLEDGE, AND JOY”
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
“I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.”
Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
“Death and life are in the power of the tongue”
“they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.”
A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.
“A wholesome tongue is a tree of life”
The song of songs, which is Solomon's.
Let her kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine.
Because of the savour of thy good ointments thy name is as ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love me.
“Let her kiss me with the kisses of his mouth”
“for thy love is better than wine”
“therefore do the virgins love me”
So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,
I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.
Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.
“So she caught him, and kissed him”
“and with an impudent face said unto him”
“I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows”
”Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face”
”I have found thee”
The mouth of a righteous man is a well of life: but violence covereth the mouth of the wicked.
Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.
“The mouth of a righteous man is a well of life”
“but love covereth all sins”
He that covereth a transgression seeketh love; but he that repeateth a matter separateth very friends.
“He that covereth a transgression seeketh love”
Then said they, Come and let us devise devices against Jeremiah; for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet. Come, and let us smite him with the tongue, and let us not give heed to any of his words.
Give heed to me, O Lord, and hearken to the voice of them that contend with me.
Shall evil be recompensed for good? for they have digged a pit for my soul. Remember that I stood before thee to speak good for them, and to turn away thy wrath from them.
Therefore deliver up their children to the famine, and pour out their blood by the force of the sword; and let their wives be bereaved of their children, and be widows; and let their men be put to death; let their young men be slain by the sword in battle.
Let a cry be heard from their houses, when thou shalt bring a troop suddenly upon them: for they have digged a pit to take me, and hid snares for my feet.
Yet, Lord, thou knowest all their counsel against me to slay me: forgive not their iniquity, neither blot out their sin from thy sight, but let them be overthrown before thee; deal thus with them in the time of thine anger.
“Then said they”
”COME AND LET US DEVISE DEVICES AGAINST JEREMIAH”
“for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet”
”COME, AND LET US SMITE HIM WITH THE TONGUE”
”LET US NOT GIVE HEED TO ANY OF HIS WORDS”
”Shall evil be recompensed for good? for they have digged a pit for my soul”
”REMEMBER THAT I STOOD BEFORE THEE TO SPEAK GOOD FOR THEM”
”AND TO TURN AWAY THY WRATH FROM THEM”
”Yet, Lord, thou knowest all their counsel against me to slay me”
“forgive not their iniquity”
“neither blot out their sin from thy sight”
” but let them be overthrown before thee”
ALL THE SAINTS SALUTE YOU.
ALL THE SAINTS SALUTE YOU, CHIEFLY THEY THAT ARE OF CAESAR'S HOUSEHOLD
ALL THAT ARE WITH ME SALUTE THEE. Greet them that love us in the faith. Grace be with you all. Amen.
“HE HATH MADE HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL UTTERLY TO ABHOR HIM”
“THEREFORE HE SHALL BE MY SERVANT FOR EVER.”
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.
A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.
And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.
“Behold my servant, whom I have chosen”
“my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased”
“I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.”
“He shall not strive, nor cry; NEITHER SHALL ANY MAN HEAR HIS VOICE IN THE STREETS.”
“And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.”
That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.
I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.
And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
“THAT WHICH IS CROOKED CANNOT BE MADE STRAIGHT”
“THAT WHICH IS WANTING CANNOT BE NUMBERED.”
And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and inquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
“And the Lord said unto him”
“That which is crooked cannot be made straight”
“that which is wanting cannot be numbered.”
“ARISE, AND GO INTO THE STREET WHICH IS CALLED STRAIGHT”
“AND INQUIRE IN THE HOUSE OF JUDAS”
“FOR ONE CALLED SAUL, OF TARSUS”
“for, behold, he prayeth”
Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
“love unto all the saints”
“Cease not to give thanks for you”
“making mention of you in my prayers”
What is thy beloved more than another beloved, O thou fairest among women? what is thy beloved more than another beloved, that thou dost so charge us?
My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.
His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.
His eyes are as the eyes of doves by the rivers of waters, washed with milk, and fitly set.
His cheeks are as a bed of spices, as sweet flowers: his lips like lilies, dropping sweet smelling myrrh.
His hands are as gold rings set with the beryl: his belly is as bright ivory overlaid with sapphires.
His legs are as pillars of marble, set upon sockets of fine gold: his countenance is as Lebanon, excellent as the cedars.
His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.
“My beloved is white and ruddy”
“the chiefest among ten thousand”
“His head is as the most fine gold”
“his locks are bushy, and black as a raven”
“His eyes are as the eyes of doves by the rivers of waters”
“washed with milk, and fitly set”
“His hands are as gold rings set with the beryl”
“his belly is as bright ivory overlaid with sapphires.”
“His legs are as pillars of marble, set upon sockets of fine gold”
“his countenance is as Lebanon, excellent as the cedars.”
“His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely”
“This is my beloved, and this is my friend”
“O daughters of Jerusalem”
And the women answered one another as they played, and said, Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands.
“David his ten thousands”
And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew THE BROTHER OF GOLIATH THE GITTITE, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.
And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had ON EVERY HAND SIX FINGERS, and ON EVERY FOOT SIX TOES, FOUR AND TWENTY in number; and HE ALSO WAS BORN TO THE GIANT.
And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea the brother of David slew him.
These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
“THE BROTHER OF GOLIATH THE GITTITE”
“ON EVERY HAND SIX FINGERS”
“ON EVERY FOOT SIX TOES, FOUR AND TWENTY in NUMBER”
“HE ALSO WAS BORN TO THE GIANT”
After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
And round about the throne were FOUR AND TWENTY SEATS: and upon the seats I saw FOUR AND TWENTY ELDERS sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on THEIR HEADS CROWNS OF GOLD.
FOUR AND TWENTY SEATS
FOUR AND TWENTY ELDERS
THEIR HEADS CROWNS OF GOLD
“Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.”
“For I WILL GIVE YOU A MOUTH and wisdom”
“which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.”
“neither told I any man what my God had put in my heart to do at Jerusalem”
“for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh”
“before the DRAGON WELL”
“viewed the walls of Jerusalem”
“which were broken down”
“the gates thereof were consumed with fire.”
” Moreover he said, I AM”
“DAGON THEIR GOD”
“that whatsoever ENTERETH IN AT THE MOUTH GOETH INTO THE BELLY”
“O Lord, we beseech thee”
“let us not perish for this man's life”
“So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea”
“the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah”
“God created great whales”
“God blessed them”
“out of the belly of hell cried I”
And the servants of Achish said unto him, Is not this David the king of the land? did they not sing one to another of him in dances, saying, Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands?
And David laid up these words in his heart, and was sore afraid of Achish the king of Gath.
And he changed his behaviour before them, and feigned himself mad in their hands, and scrabbled on the doors of the gate, and let his spittle fall down upon his beard.
Then said Achish unto his servants, Lo, ye see the man is mad: wherefore then have ye brought him to me?
Have I need of mad men, that ye have brought this fellow to play the mad man in my presence? shall this fellow come into my house?
“and David his ten thousands”
“And David laid up these words in his heart”
“was sore afraid of Achish the king of Gath.”
And David and his men went up, and invaded the Geshurites, and the Gezrites, and the Amalekites: for those nations were of old the inhabitants of the land, as thou goest to Shur, even unto the land of Egypt.
And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, and took away the sheep, and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel, and returned, and came to Achish.
And Achish said, Whither have ye made a road to day? And David said, Against the south of Judah, and against the south of the Jerahmeelites, and against the south of the Kenites.
And David saved neither man nor woman alive, to bring tidings to Gath, saying, Lest they should tell on us, saying, So did David, and so will be his manner all the while he dwelleth in the country of the Philistines.
And Achish believed David, saying, He hath made his people Israel utterly to abhor him; therefore he shall be my servant for ever.
“And David saved neither man nor woman alive”
“to bring tidings to Gath”
“And Achish believed David”
“He hath made his people Israel utterly to abhor him”
“therefore he shall be my servant for ever.”
THESE TWELVE JESUS SENT FORTH, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
“BY WHICH ALSO YE ARE SAVED”
“IF YE KEEP IN MEMORY WHAT I PREACHED UNTO YOU”
” For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received”
”And that he was buried”
”and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures”
“AND THAT HE WAS SEEN OF CEPHAS, THEN OF THE TWELVE”
Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him,
"Judas Iscariot" said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called CEPHAS, which is by interpretation, A stone.
“Simon the Canaanite”
“the HOUSE OF SIMON THE LEPER”
“SIMON THE SON OF JONA”
“thou shalt be called CEPHAS”
“A stone”
Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee;
And leaving Nazareth, he came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim:
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles;
The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.
“he came and dwelt in Capernaum”
“Galilee of the Gentiles”
“shadow of death light is sprung up”
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
“He that eateth my flesh”
“and drinketh my blood”
“dwelleth in me”
“and I in him”
“as he taught in Capernaum”
Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
“but with the Spirit of the living God”
“not in tables of stone”
“but in fleshy tables of the heart.”
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
“ye are the temple of the living God”
“as God hath said”
“I will dwell in them”
“and walk in them”
“and I will be their God”
“and they shall be my people
Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him,
"Judas Iscariot" said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.
“Simon the Canaanite”
“the HOUSE OF SIMON THE LEPER”
“SIMON THE SON OF JONA”
“thou shalt be called Cephas”
“A stone”
And God said, Let the waters under the Heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
“and let the dry land appear: and it was so.”
“God called the dry land Earth”
“the gathering together of the waters called he Seas”
“God saw that it was good.”
And the Lord spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.
“Lord spake unto the fish”
“it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land”
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man.
And all the people that came together to that sight, beholding the things which were done, smote their breasts, and returned.
“Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit” “SIMON THE SON OF JONA”
“Now when the centurion saw what was done”
“he glorified God”
“Certainly this was a righteous man.”
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
“These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.”
“And now, little children, abide in him”
“that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence”
“and not be ashamed before him at his coming”
“If ye know that he is righteous”
“ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.”
But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, the dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
“according to the true proverb”
“the dog is turned to his own vomit again”
“the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire”
But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God.
“a certain man, called Simon”
“used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria”
“giving out that himself was some great one:”
“To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying”
”This man is the great power of God.”
But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:
But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.
“But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side”
“forthwith came there out blood and water.”
And David longed, and said, Oh that one would give me drink of the water of the well of Bethlehem, which is by the gate!
And the three mighty men brake through the host of the Philistines, and drew water out of the well of Bethlehem, that was by the gate, and took it, and brought it to David: nevertheless he would not drink thereof, but poured it out unto the Lord.
And he said, Be it far from me, O Lord, that I should do this: is not this the blood of the men that went in jeopardy of their lives? therefore he would not drink it. These things did these three mighty men.
“Oh that one would give me drink of the water of the well of Bethlehem”
“And the three mighty men brake through the host of the Philistines”
“drew water out of the well of Bethlehem”
“nevertheless he would not drink thereof, but poured it out unto the Lord”
“is not this the blood of the men that went in jeopardy of their lives”
“therefore he would not drink it”
Before your pots can feel the thorns, he shall take them away as with a whirlwind, both living, and in his wrath.
The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.
So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous: verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth.
That thy foot may be dipped in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same.
HEADS CROWNS OF GOLD
After that, HE WAS SEEN OF JAMES; then of all the apostles.
And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
For I am THE LEAST of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
“HE WAS SEEN OF JAMES”
“AND LAST OF ALL HE WAS SEEN OF ME ALSO”
”as of one born out of due time”
“For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle”
“because I persecuted the church of God.”
And Gideon said unto him, Oh my Lord, if the Lord be with us, why then is all this befallen us? and where be all his miracles which our fathers told us of, saying, Did not the Lord bring us up from Egypt? but now the Lord hath forsaken us, and delivered us into the hands of the Midianites.
And the Lord looked upon him, and said, Go in this thy might, and thou shalt save Israel from the hand of the Midianites: have not I sent thee?
And he said unto him, Oh my Lord, wherewith shall I save Israel? behold, my family is poor in Manasseh, and I am the least in my father's house.
“GIDEON SAID UNTO HIM, OH MY LORD”
“if the Lord be with us, why then is all this befallen us?”
“And he said unto him,”
”Oh my Lord, wherewith shall I save Israel?”
” behold, my family is poor in Manasseh”
“I am THE LEAST IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE”
Now these are the judgments which thou shalt set before them.
If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.
If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him.
If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.
And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:
Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
“Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve”
“in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.”
“If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself”
“if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him.”
“If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters”
“the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.”
“And if the servant shall plainly say”
“I love my master, my wife, and my children”
“I will not go out free”
”his master shall bore his ear through with an earring”
“he shall serve him for ever.”
And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.
And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.
And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the Lord.
And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
And the Lord said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:
“And Aaron said unto them”
“Break off the golden earrings”
“which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters”
“they said, These be thy gods, O Israel”
“after he had made it a molten calf”
“And the Lord said unto Moses”
“I have seen this people”
“it is a stiffnecked people:”
Then the men of Israel said unto Gideon, Rule thou over us, both thou, and thy son, and thy son's son also: for thou hast delivered us from the hand of Midian.
And Gideon said unto them, I will not rule over you, neither shall my son rule over you: the Lord shall rule over you.
And Gideon said unto them, I would desire a request of you, that ye would give me every man the earrings of his prey. (For they had golden earrings, because they were Ishmaelites.)
And they answered, We will willingly give them. And they spread a garment, and did cast therein every man the earrings of his prey.
“And Gideon said unto them”
“I will not rule over you”
“neither shall my son rule over you”
“the Lord shall rule over you”
“And Gideon said unto them”
“I would desire a request of you”
“And Gideon said unto them”
“THAT YE WOULD GIVE ME EVERY MAN THE EARRINGS OF HIS PREY”
“FOR THEY HAD GOLDEN EARRINGS, BECAUSE THEY WERE ISHMAELITES.”
“And they answered”
“We will willingly give them”
“And they spread a garment”
“and DID CAST THEREIN EVERY MAN THE EARRINGS OF HIS PREY.”
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Lord, even THE DEVILS ARE SUBJECT UNTO US THROUGH THY NAME.
BEHOLD, I COME AS A THIEF. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and THEY SEE HIS SHAME.
Then were THERE TWO THIEVES CRUCIFIED WITH HIM, one on the right hand, and another on the left.
But when they had commanded them to go aside out of the council, they conferred among themselves,
Saying, What shall we do to these men? for that indeed a notable miracle hath been done by them is manifest to all them that dwell in Jerusalem; and we cannot deny it.
But that it spread no further among the people, let us straitly threaten them, THAT THEY SPEAK HENCEFORTH TO NO MAN IN THIS NAME.
And they called them, and COMMANDED THEM NOT TO SPEAK AT ALL NOR TEACH IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye.
For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard.
But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they COMMANDED THAT THEY SHOULD NOT SPEAK IN THE NAME OF JESUS, and let them go.
And they departed from the presence of the council, REJOICING THAT THEY WERE COUNTED WORTHY TO SUFFER SHAME FOR HIS NAME.
Saying, DID NOT WE STRAITLY COMMAND YOU THAT YE SHOULD NOT TEACH IN THIS NAME? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.
Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.
I WRITE NOT THESE THINGS TO SHAME YOU, but as my beloved sons I WARN YOU.
For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
I SPEAK TO YOUR SHAME. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
BUT BROTHER GOETH TO LAW WITH BROTHER, and that BEFORE THE UNBELIEVERS.
Whose end is destruction, WHOSE GOD IS THEIR BELLY, and WHOSE GLORY IS IN THEIR SHAME, who mind earthly things
Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, DESPISING THE SHAME, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
For consider him that endured such CONTRADICTION OF SINNERS against himself, lest ye BE WEARIED AND FAINT IN YOUR MINDS.
YE HAVE NOT YET RESISTED UNTO BLOOD, striving against sin.
Lord, even THE DEVILS ARE SUBJECT UNTO US THROUGH THY NAME.
BEHOLD, I COME AS A THIEF. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and THEY SEE HIS SHAME.
Then were THERE TWO THIEVES CRUCIFIED WITH HIM, one on the right hand, and another on the left.
For the SON OF MAN IS LORD even of the sabbath day.
But that ye may know that the SON OF MAN HATH POWER ON EARTH to forgive sins
THE SON OF MAN came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, A FRIEND OF PUBLICANS AND SINNERS. But wisdom is justified of her children.
SO THE DEVILS BESOUGHT HIM, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.
And they that kept them fled, and went their ways into the city, and told every thing, and what was befallen to the possessed of the devils.
And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.
And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.
And there was in their synagogue A MAN WITH AN UNCLEAN SPIRIT; and he cried out,
Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I KNOW THEE WHO THOU ART, THE HOLY ONE OF GOD.
And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.
And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him.
And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for WITH AUTHORITY COMMANDETH HE EVEN THE UNCLEAN SPIRITS, AND THEY DO OBEY HIM.
Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
AND FORTHWITH JESUS GAVE THEM LEAVE. AND THE UNCLEAN SPIRITS WENT OUT, AND ENTERED INTO THE SWINE: AND THE HERD RAN VIOLENTLY DOWN A STEEP PLACE INTO THE SEA, (THEY WERE ABOUT TWO THOUSAND;) AND WERE CHOKED IN THE SEA.
And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.
And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to MARY MAGDALENE, OUT OF WHOM HE HAD CAST SEVEN DEVILS.
Posted by: harold | September 25, 2008 12:31 PM
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Posted by: Jesus Christ | September 25, 2008 12:45 PM
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Leviticus, Chapter 4, The sin of igonorance:
1 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 2 Say to the children of Israel: The soul that sinneth through ignorance, and doth any thing concerning any of the commandments of the Lord, which he commanded not to be done: 3 If the priest that is anointed shall sin, making the people to offend, he shall offer to the Lord for his sin a calf without blemish. 4 And he shall bring it to the door of the testimony before the Lord, and shall put his hand upon the head thereof, and shall sacrifice it to the Lord. 5 He shall take also of the blood of the calf, and carry it into the tabernacle of the testimony.
2 "Ignorance"... To be ignorant of what we are bound to know is sinful; and for such culpable ignorance, these sacrifices, prescribed in this and the following chapter, were appointed.
5 "The blood"... As the figure of the blood of Christ shed for the remission of our sins, and carried by him into the sanctuary of heaven.
6 And having dipped his finger in the blood, he shall sprinkle with it seven times before the Lord, before the veil of the sanctuary. 7 And he shall put some of the same blood upon the horns of the altar of the sweet incense most acceptable to the Lord, which is in the tabernacle of the testimony. And he shall pour all the rest of the blood at the foot of the altar of holocaust in the entry of the tabernacle. 8 And he shall take off the fat of the calf for the sin offering, as well that which covereth the entrails, as all the inwards: 9 The two little kidneys, and the caul that is upon them, which is by the hanks, and the fat of the liver with the little kidneys, 10 As it is taken off from the calf of the sacrifice of peace offerings, and he shall burn them upon the altar of holocaust.
11 But the skin and all the flesh with the head and the feet and the bowels and the dung, 12 And the rest of the body he shall carry forth without the camp into a clean place where the ashes are wont to be poured out, and he shall burn them upon a pile of wood, they shall be burnt in the place where the ashes are poured out. 13 And if all the multitude of Israel shall be ignorant, and through ignorance shall do that which is against the commandment of the Lord, 14 And afterwards shall understand their sin, they shall offer for their sin a calf, and shall bring it to the door of the tabernacle. 15 And the ancients of the people shall put their hands upon the head thereof before the Lord. And the calf being immolated in the sight of the Lord,
16 The priest that is anointed shall carry of the blood into the tabernacle of the testimony. 17 And shall dip his finger in it and sprinkle it seven times before the veil. 18 And he shall put of the same blood on the horns of the altar that is before the Lord, in the tabernacle of the testimony: and the rest of the blood he shall pour at the foot of the altar of holocaust, which is at the door of the tabernacle of the testimony. 19 And all the fat thereof he shall take off, and shall burn it upon the altar: 20 Doing so with this calf, as he did also with that before: and the priest praying for them, the Lord will be merciful unto them.
21 But the calf itself he shall carry forth without the camp, and shall burn it as he did the former calf: because it is for the sin of the multitude. 22 If a prince shall sin, and through ignorance do any one of the things that the law of the Lord forbiddeth, 23 And afterwards shall come to know his sin, he shall offer a buck goat without blemish, a sacrifice to the Lord. 24 And he shall put his hand upon the head thereof: and when he hath immolated it in the place where the holocaust is wont to be slain before the Lord, because it is for sin, 25 The priest shall dip his finger in the blood of the victim for sin, touching therewith the horns of the altar of holocaust, and pouring out the rest at the foot thereof.
26 But the fat he shall burn upon it, as is wont to be done with the victims of peace offerings: and the priest shall pray for him, and for his sin, and it shall be forgiven him. 27 And if any one of the people of the land shall sin through ignorance, doing any of those things that by the law of the Lord are forbidden, and offending, 28 And shall come to know his sin, he shall offer a she goat without blemish. 29 And he shall put his hand upon the head of the victim that is for sin, and shall immolate it in the place of the holocaust. 30 And the priest shall take of the blood with his finger, and shall touch the horns of the altar of holocaust, and shall pour out the rest at the foot thereof.
31 But taking off all the fat, as is wont to be taken away of the victims of peace offerings, he shall burn it upon the altar, for a sweet savour to the Lord: and he shall pray for him, and it shall be forgiven him. 32 But if he offer of the flock a victim for his sin, to wit, an ewe without blemish: 33 He shall put his hand upon the head thereof, and shall immolate it in the place where the victims of holocausts are wont to be slain. 34 And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and shall touch the horns of the altar of holocaust, and the rest he shall pour out at the foot thereof. 35 All the fat also he shall take off, as the fat of the ram that is offered for peace offerings is wont to be taken away: and shall burn it upon the altar, for a burnt sacrifice of the Lord: and he shall pray for him and for his sin, and it shall be forgiven him.
Posted by: Ralph Reed | September 25, 2008 12:50 PM
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Well....can you get maple syrup with them?
Posted by: tomK | September 25, 2008 1:13 PM
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Okay. So if they were called McCain Waffles.......who would be offended?? No one! So move on. Isn't it funny how people turn a simple marketing idea into something racial. Can we move on already??? Why does Hollywood get to keep deciding the fate of the country? Is it because their voices are louder? I don't see how a named waffle can cause so much DRAMA!
Posted by: Christian238 | September 25, 2008 1:29 PM
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Ralph Reed said “Leviticus, Chapter 4, The sin of igonorance:”
No, it is unbelief. They have other gods before them. They reject the Ten Commandants of the Father and the Law of the Mother. It is the same, the Ten Commandants and the Law of the Mother. They know not the LORD, the lord of the so-called Christians is the son of man. The six things Solomon hates the so-clled Christian loves, the son of god. The abomination is the son of man. The words that are taught behind the pulpit is not that of the faith of Abraham. Your belief is that humans are sacrificed for sinner creatures. Your belief is that of eating the flesh and drinking the blood of the son of man. That is called cannibalism. That is what animals do.
THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE ARK SAVE THE TWO TABLES OF STONE
These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
“My son, keep thy father's commandment”
“forsake not the law of thy mother”
He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
Therefore he said that he would destroy them, had not Moses his chosen stood before him in the breach, to turn away his wrath, lest he should destroy them.
Yea, they despised the pleasant land, they believed not his word:
But murmured in their tents, and hearkened not unto the voice of the Lord.
“had not Moses his chosen stood before him in the breach”
If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.
For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.
It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
In that I command thee this day to love the Lord thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the Lord thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
“For this commandment which I command thee this day”
“But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.”
There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone, which Moses put there at Horeb, when the Lord made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.
And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of the Lord,
So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud: for the glory of the Lord had filled the house of the Lord.
Then spake Solomon, The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.
“There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone”
“which Moses put there at Horeb”
“when the Lord made a covenant with the children of Israel”
“that the cloud filled the house of the Lord”
“for the glory of the Lord had filled the house of the Lord”
“The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness”
And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even Ten Commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it.
Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the Lord spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:
Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,
The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:
And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
“And he declared unto you his covenant”
“which he commanded you to perform”
“Ten Commandments”
“he wrote them upon two tables of stone”
“Lest ye corrupt yourselves”
“make you a graven image”
“the similitude of any figure”
“the likeness of male or female”
“The likeness of any beast that is on the earth”
“the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air”
“The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground”
“the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth”
“And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven”
“when thou seest the sun”
“the moon”
“even all the host of heaven”
“LEST YE CORRUPT YOURSELVES”
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
“WHEN THOU SEEST THE SUN”
“THE MOON”
“AND THE STARS”
“God made two great lights”
“the greater light to rule the day”
“the lesser light to rule the night”
“God called the light Day”
”the darkness he called Night
”he made the stars also”
“THE LIKENESS OF ANY FISH THAT IS IN THE WATERS BENEATH THE EARTH”
“Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life”
“God created great whales”
“and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind”
“THE LIKENESS OF ANY THING THAT CREEPETH ON THE GROUND”
“God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing”
“THE LIKENESS OF ANY WINGED FOWL THAT FLIETH IN THE AIR”
“and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven”
“every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.”
““THE LIKENESS OF ANY BEAST THAT IS ON THE EARTH”
“and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.”
“And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.”
“THE LIKENESS OF MALE OR FEMALE”
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
“MAKE YOU A GRAVEN IMAGE”
“THE SIMILITUDE OF ANY FIGURE”
“God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”
“LEST YE CORRUPT YOURSELVES”
“AND LEST THOU LIFT UP THINE EYES UNTO HEAVEN”
“EVEN ALL THE HOST OF HEAVEN”
“Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.”
“LEST YE CORRUPT YOURSELVES”
“And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.”
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
And God said, Let the waters under the Heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the third day.
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Posted by: harold | September 25, 2008 1:32 PM
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I clicked on the link. I didn't see the racist part of it. Someone please explain it to me. Were they supposed to draw Obama as a White man instead? Or did they see this as a play on Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben? Should we pull them off of the shelf too? Along with the White Gerber baby? That might be too racist.
Posted by: dcp | September 25, 2008 2:08 PM
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in regards to the comment by the waffle makers question "Is that whate racists do?" I can only say that Hitler had a Jewish friend - do the math you racist morons!
As for Dobson, his credibility can be best understood with his stand on training your boys not to be gay - part of that training is showering with your kids and making sure they can see your p*nis. Dobson is a nutcase, period.
Eggy writes
"Um, I think a lot of you people are missing the point. It's a JOKE! It's FUNNY"
Racism is not funny in a country that in recent memory lynched black people. In my lifetime people were killed by police officers because they were trying to register blacks to vote.
Christian238 wrote
"Okay. So if they were called McCain Waffles.......who would be offended??"
The fact is they used a 'negro stereotype' you silly person. If it was 'John Sydney's Adult Diapers' and the picture was of an old man with waste dripping down his leg it's be GD offensive.
The last funny conservative was Winston Churchill.
dcp writes
"I clicked on the link. I didn't see the racist part of it. Someone please explain it to me"
Here's a thought - print up the picture and take it to some black folks (teenaged males would be a good start) and ask what they think. It's a 'grinning negro stereotype'. Maybe if your people used to be denied jobs, homes and sometimes your friends would be lynched because local white people were bored you'd get it.
Posted by: Marc Edward | September 25, 2008 3:19 PM
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Posted by: test | September 25, 2008 3:34 PM
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dcp writes
"I clicked on the link. I didn't see the racist part of it. Someone please explain it to me"
Here's a thought - print up the picture and take it to some black folks (teenaged males would be a good start) and ask what they think. It's a 'grinning negro stereotype'. Maybe if your people used to be denied jobs, homes and sometimes your friends would be lynched because local white people were bored you'd get it.
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Marc Edward, I am Black. Still don't see the racism.
Posted by: dcp | September 25, 2008 3:42 PM
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Hey DCP
I do see the racism. Glad you have led a sheltered life youngster.
Posted by: Marc Edward | September 25, 2008 3:52 PM
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People draw cartoons of Bush as a smiling dufus all of the time. People draw cartoons of Clinton as a smiling pervert all of the time. People love to make fun of politicians. Why should Obama be exempt?
Posted by: dcp | September 25, 2008 3:52 PM
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Hey DCp, nobody said Obama should be immune from satire. Maybe you should argue with what people say rather than what you wish they'd said.
On the other hand, you might ask your parents or grandparents what they think of the Obama picture.
Posted by: Marc Edward | September 25, 2008 4:00 PM
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Ok Marc-
Chocolate in reference to a man's skin is like the n-word: commonly used by blacks and racist if used by a white person.
If the waffles were meant to be racist- they would have been chocolate.
I can see you are thinskinned and find anything slightly critical of Obama a direct attack on his skin colour.
So consider this. Obama is NOT black- he is mulatto. Those waffles would have had to be mocha with extra cream to truly reflect Obama's colour.
We have had a real black presidential candidate and no one took notice. You probably don't even know his name- but I can tell you he is 100% dark chocolate.
So who is the REAL RACIST??
Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 4:30 PM
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"Sorry, David, but Oliphant's cartoon was funny because it makes fun of stupidity."
Sorry Cooder, but your way off. Making fun of the mentally ill is in very poor taste.
Posted by: Steve-o | September 25, 2008 4:42 PM
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Anonymous writes
"If the waffles were meant to be racist- they would have been chocolate."
Not at all. I looked at the 'product' and the racism is pretty clear.
"I can see you are thinskinned"
Having lived through the murder of Dr. King, havling lived through the death of Jim Crow, having lived through the race riots, yeah, I am a little thin skinned. Demeaning people based on their race is the first step in dehumanizing them.
"and find anything slightly critical of Obama a direct attack on his skin colour."
Wrong again - I'd object just as strongly to a hook-nosed "characterization" of Lieberman. I find the use of racism to be repugnant and unAmerican.
"So consider this. Obama is NOT black"
Horse crap. Growing up when he did it would have been impossible, in the USA for him to be treated by society as anything but black, period.
"- he is mulatto."
Is it hard to get grass stains out of white sheets? Just wondering.
"We have had a real black presidential candidate and no one took notice. You probably don't even know his name- but I can tell you he is 100% dark chocolate. So who is the REAL RACIST??"
You clearly are racist. Glad I raise my kids better than your racist parents raised you.
Posted by: Marc Edwards | September 25, 2008 4:44 PM
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OK Marc you are really uninformed
You say-
Growing up when he did it would have been impossible, in the USA for him to be treated by society as anything but black, period.
Obama was raised by his white grandparents in Hawaii. You clearly know nothing of the culture of Hawaii. You've probably never been there and so you think it must be like living in the south.
"- he is mulatto."
Is it hard to get grass stains out of white sheets? Just wondering.
Just because I point out Obama's colour status you infer I am KKK. Look in the mirror. You know nothing of black culture. We notice and speak of a person's colour openly. To you a man with a drop of black blood is BLACK- yet there are a myriad of colours in black America- yellow, high-yellow, molasses, umber, caramel, black-as-night, coffee, honey, cocoa, taupe, bamboo-brown, copper, buttered toast, henna, ebony, tea, chocolate.
"We have had a real black presidential candidate and no one took notice"
You clearly have no idea who I am taking about but I will tell you he is a black man married to a woman from India and he is more of a man than you.
You are the uninformed bigot who sees racism in some plain white waffles.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 5:19 PM
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Every time someone is called out for things like Obama waffles or thing like the cover of the New Yorker, they pass it off as satire. We all know that jokes like that are purely racist in nature. You may as well do a skit in black face and call that satire as well. When people do things like this they know the type of attention they will get and it is their way to keep racist attitudes and thoughts going well into the millennium.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 6:28 PM
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excellent analysis but it will fall on deaf ears. In my 42 years on this planet, every last minute of it black, I've learned that it is almost always pointless to try to have these discussions though. There are people who would say that what happened to James Byrd in Texas (the black man dragged behind a truck) was just hijinks gone wrong. They'd say that the Civil Rights movement was playing the race card.
Cheers
A
Posted by: Adrienne | September 25, 2008 6:33 PM
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James Dobson and his crew are nothng short of craven opportunists. They aren't Christian's, they are greedy evil money and power hunger opportunists that prey on morons. For Dobson to have the unmittigated gaul to open his yap, to blather about anyone and anything, is so stupdi, so insipid, so nausiating, that it INVITES ridicule. This piece of trash has done more harm to the church, to Christ, and to the very idea of faith than any other single individual in modern history. He should be ignored by everyone until, like gas passed in a crowded room, he slowly fads away.
Posted by: Mike | September 25, 2008 6:37 PM
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Anonymous writes
"OK Marc you are really uninformed"
Personal attacks don't make an argument.
"You say-'Growing up when he did it would have been impossible, in the USA for him to be treated by society as anything but black, period.'
Obama was raised by his white grandparents in Hawaii."
So what? You think if he walked down the street anyone looking at him said "hey, there does a white guy!" - think you are rather ignorant.
"- he is mulatto."
Is it hard to get grass stains out of white sheets? Just wondering.
Just because I point out Obama's colour status"
Making a point of his 'clour status' sure makes you look like a racist.
'you infer I am KKK'
That was your guilt speaking. I never said anything about the KKK. I bit sensitive aren't you? You racists are all the same - you like to trash talk than squeel like stuck pigs when you get caught.
Posted by: Marc Edward | September 25, 2008 6:58 PM
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People draw cartoons of Bush as a smiling dufus all of the time(and give him big lips big ears and big eyebrows or looking like a monkey). People draw cartoons of Clinton as a smiling pervert all of the time. People love to make fun of politicians. Why should Obama be exempt?
Because of Obama's skin color you are not allowed to treat him the same as peope treat Bush or Clinton.You ask "Isn't this a double standard,doesn't that make the people that laugh at the pictures of Bush as a monkey,but get offended of anything critical of Obama at al,doesn't that make them HYPOCRITICAL RACIST BASTARDS?? YES YES IT does!!!Believing one's own group is better then others or deserves better treatment especially based on Color-is clearly the definition of RACISM. look it up for yourself.
So you ask why is it racism if you make fun of Obama but not when you make fun of any other person or race??? The one's saying that are bigoted fools....i.e. the Main Stream Media and other bigots do that so they can form a pecking order of the people.who they feel is better or should be put upon a pedistal. DISGUSTING IS WHAT IT IS. Many of us have mixed family members and thank GOD they were raised better then Obama(and many in here) and don't USE race as a defense for everything.
Posted by: Hypocritical Bigots!!!! | September 25, 2008 6:58 PM
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Adrienne:
excellent analysis but it will fall on deaf ears. In my 42 years on this planet, every last minute of it black, I've learned that it is almost always pointless to try to have these discussions though. There are people who would say that what happened to James Byrd in Texas (the black man dragged behind a truck) was just hijinks gone wrong. They'd say that the Civil Rights movement was playing the race card.
Cheers
And you ADRIENNE still will look at people of other races with distain and not treat them as well as someone that is the same color as you.You wil still attacks others as being racist without knowing them(Pre-Judging them)based soley on their color...YES Adrienne racism does exist,please look in the mirror and you wil see a fine example of it,oh but the MEDIA will never vett you on that the same way they have never complained about Obama's racism....REV Wright is not racist or radical If you believe Obama and many in the MEDIA that cover his a$$ on everything.
Thanx a lot for hating me for being different Adrienne... LOVE YOU TOO =(( HATE is color blind,wish you could be too Adrienne.but alas i don't think you could ever be.
Posted by: Not Adrienne | September 25, 2008 7:05 PM
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Hypocritical Bigots!!!!
This hysterical piece of hyperbole is just plain ridiculous. No one from the Obama camp made a big deal out of this ('played the race card'). DOBSON DID!
It absolutely has racial overtones, though i doubt Sen Obama would give a tinkers darn about nonsense like this. If W was black then the monkey cartoons would have racial overtones too but he isn't.
People with the better ideas wind up on the pedestal, and people who steer the country into a ditch, fighting an endless war, bankrupting the treasury, and ruining the economy by reckless deregulation wind up a mockery.
get your facts straight before you vent your personal biases on some personal tangent.
Posted by: Todd1 | September 25, 2008 7:18 PM
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Not Adrienne said:
Thanx a lot for hating me for being different Adrienne... LOVE YOU TOO =(( HATE is color blind,wish you could be too Adrienne.but alas i don't think you could ever be.
Wow. This is a pretty big leap to turn a couple of facts about life as a black person into a rant that Adrienne must hate all white people. I don't see how you can jump to a conclusion so quickly, with so little evidence but I guess you either "know" this to be true based on divine intervention or you believe anyone pointing out racial disharmony hates everyone else.
Posted by: Former Christian | September 25, 2008 7:32 PM
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'the Main Stream Media and other bigots do that so they can form a pecking order of the people.who they feel is better or should be put upon a pedistal.'
Never ceases to amaze me how people who have a PARANOID hostility/fear of the 'cultural elite' in the Media are BLIND to the 'cultural elite' clamoring for wall street bailouts and top-tier taxcuts.
father does not always know best.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 7:41 PM
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Re: Dobson, Whoopi and Waffles
Dobson is a LIAR. Has ALWAYS been a liar. And if spewing fairy tales and fiction is all he can do, what good is he and his brainwashed flock worth??
NADA...now go away..
Posted by: RB-Chicago | September 25, 2008 8:55 PM
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OK Marc-
You prove your ignorance. A REAL black man has run for the presidency and you don't know who he is.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 9:24 PM
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Racism is caused by ignorance.
If a person is ignorant, and knows it, the likelihood is it can be changed.
If the ignorant person is ignorant and is too ignorant to know it, that may not be changed since of lack of mental capacity to change is not their potential. THAT is sad.
Posted by: Judy | September 25, 2008 10:34 PM
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James Dobson is a racist religious bigot whose focus on the family diatribe is sexist and homophobic. He fully deserves the accidental association with the Obama waffle idiots.
Posted by: Draesop | September 25, 2008 11:07 PM
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Dear Mr. Waters,
I have tried to contact you via other means and have been unsuccessful. I'd created a washington post user ID many years ago based on an account that someone hacked into unbeknownst to me to try to spam my contacts. But now that's the only ID I'm allowed to sign in with. To keep things simple, my new email account has similar handle.. but it's not the one I use here, and I need to be able to change my WaPo user ID to something that is as recognizable as the one I normally use here.
Please address this problem.
Thank you,
Priver
Posted by: Priver | September 25, 2008 11:23 PM
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These are prime examples of them to whom Jesus will say...Depart from me, ye workers of iniquity, I know you not...
What poor wretches they are, and so many hypocrites like them.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 26, 2008 12:24 AM
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James Dobson, I recognized that you are one who bought the devil's great lie. Pride. You are so puffed up... you look funny. You are a deceiver.
Your job as a minister is to educate not dictate. Leave the transforming to The Supreme Being. Just like your god, you have a very strong desire to control. Love knows how to behave.
What a pity!
Posted by: Susan W | September 26, 2008 1:37 AM
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Anonymous writes
"OK Marc-
You prove your ignorance. A REAL black man has run for the presidency and you don't know who he is."
A number of black people have run for President - what does that have to do with this question? No black man has recieved the nomination of either major political party up till this year.
As for my ignorance - I plead guilty - no matter how many books I read there will be gazillions of things I'm ignorant about - just like everybody else in the world.
Posted by: Marc Edward | September 26, 2008 7:50 AM
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Perhaps the 'waffles' follow the pattern from the Texas sellers of the button which asked IF Obama were elected would we still call it 'the White House'?
Organizers there too, said that they weren't 'aware' of the seller's product....
The above was the 'worldly' response to this; but now to the more important response - that of Spirit.
I believe that we all know what is good. We need to just 'be still' to 'know'.
If more of us gauged our 'worldly' responses by 'what we feel/felt in our own hearts' less unkindnesses (regardless of the worldly justifications) would be perpetuated.
Most of us have been 'blessed' with an example of hearing our own still, small voice. After hearing that voice, we need both the humility and courage to follow what we've heard.....
Our world would be a MUCH better place for ACTING from that place.
Posted by: Dari | September 26, 2008 7:51 AM
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The issue is not waffles or racism. The issue is are people who call themselves Christian going to act like Christians? Or are they going to act like James Dobson?
Posted by: Dean | September 26, 2008 8:18 AM
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Someone is watching too much TV, reading too much trash articles, and not looking in the mirror...at all! All these comments about the other person (side) being bigots, racists, and so on, and they do not stop to hear how they themselves sound.
Waffle? Who in the world links waffles and racism? I do not have a clue as to what is being inferred here. When I see waffle,it's either food, or means the person say's one thing and then later on changes his/her mind.
Someone has a big imagination, or they are listening to others who have one, because at 52 years old, and having traveled this globe many times over, I do NOT come up with racist when I hear waffle...and neither do you except someone TOLD YOU that it connects, it fits into your, "let's be tolerant of everything, UNLESS it doesn't fit in with your intolerence"; then you lable it bigot or racist. Children, grow up, get some virtue about yourself, look in the mirror.
Posted by: Waffle? | September 26, 2008 8:56 AM
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SHUT UP dobson!!
Posted by: JUDGE ALAN MUNICH GERMANY | September 26, 2008 9:16 AM
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I'm far more concerned about Dobson's hatred and denigration of gay people.
He is on record as being in favor of denying health care, old age benefits, and other life-altering benefits for gay Americans.
Who Would Jesus Deny Healthcare To?
Oh, yes, that's right. He wouldn't.
Posted by: Hillman | September 26, 2008 9:21 AM
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Not all evangelicals support McCain/Palin. Look for "EVANGELICALS FOR OBAMA" car magnets (aka bumper stickers) from evs4obama [at] gmail [dot] com.
Posted by: J Seidel | September 26, 2008 9:28 AM
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Anonymus & Marc Edward:
The Portuguese term "mulato" or "mestiço" is a perceived as pejorative and demeaning in some cultures (see Wikipedia)! For those of you that are unsophisticated in the Portuguese language, the closest equivalent in the English language to these Portuguese words is "half breed." As a Christian, I would never refer to anyone as half breed, as that is against the Word of God.
Posted by: Ipanema | September 26, 2008 9:33 AM
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fr hillman:
>...I'm far more concerned about Dobson's hatred and denigration of gay people.
He is on record as being in favor of denying health care, old age benefits, and other life-altering benefits for gay Americans....
SO true. He's a bigot, and knows it. The problem is, he goes on (and on and on and on ad infiniteum) about just how AWFUL glbt's are, uses false information, and has brainwashed a LOT of people. My mother had dobdumb's gulag send me a book of his (I'm gay). I sent it back unopened, refused, return to sender. I also sent dobby's gang of four an email saying NEVER send me that garbage again.
Posted by: Alex | September 26, 2008 9:53 AM
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Hi David Waters
I have been trying to figure out how to register on some of the other threads so I can still make comments. But so far, I have been unsuccessful. It is too hard. I am trying to follow the instructions but somehow, I am not understanding what I am to do. This is biased towards younger people, since they all seem to be more computer literate. Maybe you could put more detailed instructions or some kind of video tutorial. Thanks
Posted by: Daniel in the Lion's Den | September 26, 2008 10:16 AM
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Hillman writes:
"I'm far more concerned about Dobson's hatred and denigration of gay people.
He is on record as being in favor of denying health care, old age benefits, and other life-altering benefits for gay Americans.
Who Would Jesus Deny Healthcare To?
Oh, yes, that's right. He wouldn't."
So Hillman & others: Why do you speak of Jesus, and you do not even know Him?
#1 The Bible talks very plainly about Sodomites. All you have to do is read what Jesus (God in the Flesh) said about the abomination of Sodomy. But...You will not, because you are willfully ignorant concerning the truth.
#2 Again, If someone does not agree with YOU concerning your world view,(not Gods), you label them, you start calling them names.
Why? Because you have no defense.
Why? Because you hate God's word
Why? Because you want it your way, not God's way
#3 You are best off to read the book of Revelation, and see exactly who this Jesus is, and what He is going to do when He returns to rule this earth.
#4 Now, If you don't believe in God, or God's word the Bible, there is no answer for your ranting about being a sodomite and wanting every one to be on your side. You have made up YOUR rules, and want everyone else to play by them.
Sorry, God does NOT operate that way.
#5 If you want TRUTH, read God's word. If your want to live in your world of no absolutes, every one is right, no one is wrong. (unless they disagree with YOU), go ahead, but don't expect everyone to follow.
Posted by: Mark | September 26, 2008 10:35 AM
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John McCaint has suddenly gotten quite concerned about the crisis on Wall Street.
Just more lies....
So much so that he has announced he’s suspending his campaign and rushing back to Washington so he can work with Congress on solving the problem and he wants Obama to do the same which will mean putting off that pesky debate they were supposed to have on Friday.
The situation was so urgent in fact that McCaint called up David Letterman personally to cancel his appearance on his show so he wouldn’t waste any time tackling the problem.
Except that he apparently had time to stick around long enough to film an interview with Katie Couric, to "expalin" the pathetic interview with peeeuuu Palin whereas she fumbles and get confused on such a simple subject....and literally self destructs on CBS.....
So while McCaint was at the West 57th street CBS News Location.....at same point in time he would have been on Letterman.
Needless to say, Dave wasn’t impressed. In fact Dave had some pretty good points to make during the course of the show.
David Letterman was absolutely furious at Senator John McCain for snubbing him and instead making an appearance on a CBS News interview with Katie Couric.
According to Letterman, McCaint personally called him and apologized for bailing out at the last minute.
He said he was suspending his campaign to rush to Washington and help fight America’s biggest economic crisis since the great depression.
Letterman understood the urgency of this issue and said it was ok.
Boy, Was he mad when he knew that McCaint did not actually go to Washington to solve the ‘Crisis’ and fix the ‘Crater’ in the economy?
Letterman stopped his interview with Keith Olbermann midway to show a live TV feed of McCaint getting makeup for his interview with Katie Couric.
Letterman said something is terribly wrong with McCain’s campaign ..and it smells....(peeeuuu Palin anyone)and that he was just playing a political game by saying that he was suspending his campaign.
And when Dave saw McCaint with Couric having makeup applied to his cancer ridden head he yelled out and said: "Hey John, do you need a ride to the airport??????.
He felt this a political gimmick to stop his sliding poll numbers from sliding further. He repeatedly asked the same question - ‘Where is your running mate, Sarah Palin?’.
You do not suspend a campaign a month before elections, you get your second in command to run the show instead.
A total of 10 minutes was used up by Dave Letterman to shred McCain and his publicity stunt into pieces.
View David's Anger @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E
After the Walter Cronkite moment of 1968 now 40 years later for McCaint on David Letterman......I don’t think McCain will be scheduling a follow-up appearance anytime soon.
Thanks Again Dave.... for showing us the truth..yet again......McCaint can't multi-task.....
Its the end of the peeeuuu Palin bubble and McCaints lies.......
"Thanks but no thanks for more of the lies that bridge America to nowhere......"
Posted by: AlexP1 | September 26, 2008 10:59 AM
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..What ever happened to this commandment.....
Obama is for teaching Kindrgarteners "sex" esucation...
Obama is the reason for gigh gas prices....
Obama is the reason for the economic disaster....
Obama this and obama that.......
Why are the republicants so exempt fron this 1 of GODS 10 Commandments?
.Thou' shalt' not bear false witness thy neighbor.
Posted by: AlexP1 | September 26, 2008 11:05 AM
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Harold,
In regard to McCain's melanoma:
1: And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, saying,
2: When a man shall have in the skin of his flesh a rising, a scab, or a bright spot, and it be in the skin of his flesh like the plague of leprosy; then he shall be brought unto Aaron the priest, or unto one of his sons the priests:
3: And the priest shall look on the plague in the skin of the flesh: and when the hair in the plague is turned white, and the plague in sight be deeper than the skin of his flesh, it is a plague of leprosy: and the priest shall look on him, and pronounce him unclean.
4: If the bright spot be white in the skin of his flesh, and in sight be not deeper than the skin, and the hair thereof be not turned white; then the priest shall shut up him that hath the plague seven days:
5: And the priest shall look on him the seventh day: and, behold, if the plague in his sight be at a stay, and the plague spread not in the skin; then the priest shall shut him up seven days more:
6: And the priest shall look on him again the seventh day: and, behold, if the plague be somewhat dark, and the plague spread not in the skin, the priest shall pronounce him clean: it is but a scab: and he shall wash his clothes, and be clean.
7: But if the scab spread much abroad in the skin, after that he hath been seen of the priest for his cleansing, he shall be seen of the priest again:
8: And if the priest see that, behold, the scab spreadeth in the skin, then the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is a leprosy.
9: When the plague of leprosy is in a man, then he shall be brought unto the priest;
10: And the priest shall see him: and, behold, if the rising be white in the skin, and it have turned the hair white, and there be quick raw flesh in the rising;
11: It is an old leprosy in the skin of his flesh, and the priest shall pronounce him unclean, and shall not shut him up: for he is unclean.
12: And if a leprosy break out abroad in the skin, and the leprosy cover all the skin of him that hath the plague from his head even to his foot, wheresoever the priest looketh;
13: Then the priest shall consider: and, behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh, he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: it is all turned white: he is clean.
14: But when raw flesh appeareth in him, he shall be unclean.
15: And the priest shall see the raw flesh, and pronounce him to be unclean: for the raw flesh is unclean: it is a leprosy.
16: Or if the raw flesh turn again, and be changed unto white, he shall come unto the priest;
17: And the priest shall see him: and, behold, if the plague be turned into white; then the priest shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: he is clean.
18: The flesh also, in which, even in the skin thereof, was a boil, and is healed,
19: And in the place of the boil there be a white rising, or a bright spot, white, and somewhat reddish, and it be shewed to the priest;
20: And if, when the priest seeth it, behold, it be in sight lower than the skin, and the hair thereof be turned white; the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is a plague of leprosy broken out of the boil.
21: But if the priest look on it, and, behold, there be no white hairs therein, and if it be not lower than the skin, but be somewhat dark; then the priest shall shut him up seven days:
22: And if it spread much abroad in the skin, then the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is a plague.
23: But if the bright spot stay in his place, and spread not, it is a burning boil; and the priest shall pronounce him clean.
24: Or if there be any flesh, in the skin whereof there is a hot burning, and the quick flesh that burneth have a white bright spot, somewhat reddish, or white;
25: Then the priest shall look upon it: and, behold, if the hair in the bright spot be turned white, and it be in sight deeper than the skin; it is a leprosy broken out of the burning: wherefore the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is the plague of leprosy.
26: But if the priest look on it, and, behold, there be no white hair in the bright spot, and it be no lower than the other skin, but be somewhat dark; then the priest shall shut him up seven days:
27: And the priest shall look upon him the seventh day: and if it be spread much abroad in the skin, then the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is the plague of leprosy.
28: And if the bright spot stay in his place, and spread not in the skin, but it be somewhat dark; it is a rising of the burning, and the priest shall pronounce him clean: for it is an inflammation of the burning.
29: If a man or woman have a plague upon the head or the beard;
30: Then the priest shall see the plague: and, behold, if it be in sight deeper than the skin; and there be in it a yellow thin hair; then the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is a dry scall, even a leprosy upon the head or beard.
31: And if the priest look on the plague of the scall, and, behold, it be not in sight deeper than the skin, and that there is no black hair in it; then the priest shall shut up him that hath the plague of the scall seven days:
32: And in the seventh day the priest shall look on the plague: and, behold, if the scall spread not, and there be in it no yellow hair, and the scall be not in sight deeper than the skin;
33: He shall be shaven, but the scall shall he not shave; and the priest shall shut up him that hath the scall seven days more:
34: And in the seventh day the priest shall look on the scall: and, behold, if the scall be not spread in the skin, nor be in sight deeper than the skin; then the priest shall pronounce him clean: and he shall wash his clothes, and be clean.
35: But if the scall spread much in the skin after his cleansing;
36: Then the priest shall look on him: and, behold, if the scall be spread in the skin, the priest shall not seek for yellow hair; he is unclean.
37: But if the scall be in his sight at a stay, and that there is black hair grown up therein; the scall is healed, he is clean: and the priest shall pronounce him clean.
38: If a man also or a woman have in the skin of their flesh bright spots, even white bright spots;
39: Then the priest shall look: and, behold, if the bright spots in the skin of their flesh be darkish white; it is a freckled spot that groweth in the skin; he is clean.
40: And the man whose hair is fallen off his head, he is bald; yet is he clean.
41: And he that hath his hair fallen off from the part of his head toward his face, he is forehead bald: yet is he clean.
42: And if there be in the bald head, or bald forehead, a white reddish sore; it is a leprosy sprung up in his bald head, or his bald forehead.
43: Then the priest shall look upon it: and, behold, if the rising of the sore be white reddish in his bald head, or in his bald forehead, as the leprosy appeareth in the skin of the flesh;
44: He is a leprous man, he is unclean: the priest shall pronounce him utterly unclean; his plague is in his head.
45: And the leper in whom the plague is, his clothes shall be rent, and his head bare, and he shall put a covering upon his upper lip, and shall cry, Unclean, unclean.
46: All the days wherein the plague shall be in him he shall be defiled; he is unclean: he shall dwell alone; without the camp shall his habitation be.
47: The garment also that the plague of leprosy is in, whether it be a woollen garment, or a linen garment;
48: Whether it be in the warp, or woof; of linen, or of woollen; whether in a skin, or in any thing made of skin;
49: And if the plague be greenish or reddish in the garment, or in the skin, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin; it is a plague of leprosy, and shall be shewed unto the priest:
50: And the priest shall look upon the plague, and shut up it that hath the plague seven days:
51: And he shall look on the plague on the seventh day: if the plague be spread in the garment, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in a skin, or in any work that is made of skin; the plague is a fretting leprosy; it is unclean.
52: He shall therefore burn that garment, whether warp or woof, in woollen or in linen, or any thing of skin, wherein the plague is: for it is a fretting leprosy; it shall be burnt in the fire.
53: And if the priest shall look, and, behold, the plague be not spread in the garment, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin;
54: Then the priest shall command that they wash the thing wherein the plague is, and he shall shut it up seven days more:
55: And the priest shall look on the plague, after that it is washed: and, behold, if the plague have not changed his colour, and the plague be not spread; it is unclean; thou shalt burn it in the fire; it is fret inward, whether it be bare within or without.
56: And if the priest look, and, behold, the plague be somewhat dark after the washing of it; then he shall rend it out of the garment, or out of the skin, or out of the warp, or out of the woof:
57: And if it appear still in the garment, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin; it is a spreading plague: thou shalt burn that wherein the plague is with fire.
58: And the garment, either warp, or woof, or whatsoever thing of skin it be, which thou shalt wash, if the plague be departed from them, then it shall be washed the second time, and shall be clean.
59: This is the law of the plague of leprosy in a garment of woollen or linen, either in the warp, or woof, or any thing of skins, to pronounce it clean, or to pronounce it unclean.
Posted by: Ralph Reed | September 26, 2008 11:09 AM
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For Dobsonite Mark:
May God bless you with a gay child or grandchild so as to shut your intolerant mouth as He did with the hateful old Dick Cheney.
You are a neochristian not a Christian. Read the words of Jesus instead of cherry-picking Leviticus and Revelations for your own "orthodox Christian" political agenda - you know little about Him and neither does Dobson.
Posted by: Roy | September 26, 2008 11:38 AM
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Roy,
The entire Bible is the writing of Jesus.
One God. In fact, the book of Revelation is, as stated in the very first verse: The Revelation of Jesus Christ....
How simple!
Nothing "Neo" about it. It's the same book as it has been for over 2000 years.
Your name calling is a cheap defense, because you have no answer other than Guilty.
Why do you hate God,His Virtue, and Principles?
God loves YOU. Jesus died for YOU to pay for your sin of Sodomy...all you have to do is repent, turn from the sin God say's you have and trust who Jesus is and what he did for YOU.
It matters not the sin, it's all paid for if we receive it.
God even died for me, a wicked, hell bound sinner. That is mankinds nature; to sin. This is nothing new.
Don't blame others for what you perceive as intolerence. Look at yourself and judge yourself using God's word, not mine our any other person.
I do not hate you for your sin, any more than I hate me for my sin. I just hate the act of my sin, knowing that it offends my Saviour. I need to confess to God EVERY day. But I cannot excuse my sin just because I personally like it, or that it makes me feel good.
Wrong is wrong, and our name calling is just a mask we put on because we do not want to face the fact of who we are, against who HE is! God is perfect and Holy.
I try, like others have said, to hate the sin, and not the sinner. You are of great worth to God, so much so that he came down in human form and paid the price for your iniquity and mine.
I am no better than any other human being, I have just chosen to follow after the one who created me, and I do a miserable job at it; but I try. How about you?
Posted by: Mark | September 26, 2008 12:15 PM
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This was a well written commentary. Life could be so much better if we:
a.) Check the facts before we run our mouths
b.) Treat each other with dignity and follow the "golden rule".
I know, I know, its just too much to expect.
Posted by: John O'Neal | September 26, 2008 1:14 PM
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The book of Romans Chapter #1, verses 24-32
Very Plain New Testament verses. Why would anybody argue with the One who created it all?
Unless they have been given over to a reprobate mind maybe...and in the end, what does one hope to gain? Pleasure for a moment, and an eternity in hell? You may tell me off, but I did not write it.
Posted by: Mark | September 26, 2008 2:54 PM
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Please G*d, I pray that you use your power to allow Dobson and the houses of worship express political endorsements based upon what you tell the religious leaders in personal illusions. I am sure that if they want to participate in elections, and that they will be willing to pay taxes like other businesses and other taxpayers. As I pray to thee, please tell me why you inflated your son to 800 to 900 feet, had him tell a television evangelical that he had to raise hundreds of millions of dollars to find a cure for cancer? Lord, since you are G*d, would it not have bee easier to just tell this Evangelist the cure?
Posted by: Larry Linn | September 26, 2008 4:45 PM
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Mark,
Who are you accusing of sodomy? Are you casting the first stone. In your ignorant reaction to my defense of gays do you automatically assume I am one?
This is a glaring example that you are nothing more than an evangelical neochristian.
Posted by: coloradodog | September 27, 2008 9:41 PM
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Hey David Waters- what a timely post as Barack Obama is just about to serve another of his waffles in response to McCain's request to suspend the campaign and return to Washington to work on a non-partisan bailout.