McCain's Choice Inspires Evangelicals

"The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman"

Um, does Geraldine Ferraro ring any bells?

"The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman."

It is an historic choice, but of course not the first. That was Geraldine Ferraro in 1984.

Does it even enter the evangelical mindset that this woman could be next prez of the United States? What is wrong with Republicans?? You've had a torturing war monger for prez and because he was born again you re-elected him. Unfortunately all you care about is creating the armagedon, not the protection of america.

" If Palin's presence on the GOP ticket inspires white evangelicals and pro-life Catholics to put their full weight behind McCain's candidacy, it could prove disastrous for the Democrats."

I'm not sure I know how you came up with the above statement. There might be a very few of those mentioned above that would vote for Obama and Biden, but just a very few.

Now if your talking about them just not voting, I can see many that didn't plan on voting change their minds with the addition of Sarah Palin.

I know that I will have to vote for Sarah after I tell my Sweet Sarah (my granddaughter) that a lady with the same name as her is going to be our Next Vice President of these United States.

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

"...not the protection of america."

I have to disagree with that opinion.

I'm an old man and I can tell you that a woman can, would and has only one thing on her mind almost every hour.

The protection, security and well-being of her children and family. I can tell you from many years of experience with women both in and out of business and government, women are more resolute in protecting what is theirs and security minded than any man.

When she becomes the VP, America is her family and you can rest assured it will be in good care.

And I don't even know the lady.

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

McCain is using Palin to gain the Evangelical vote just as Bush did... how sad that it is the only way to gain power. More of the same McCain.

I plan not to vote at all, but now that MC chose woman as his VP, I will vote for MC because of her.

I think McCain's choice for VP just gave the election to the Democrats. When you look at McCain's judgement, this looks like a sop to the right wing evangelicals, and not a good choice at all. Mitt Romney would have been the strongest choice for VP.
Steve

Yea, I have to agree, this was a pro-life pick. Nothing else explains it. McCain needs the republican base to go to the polls in November and not stay home. Up to now nothing inspired the evangelicals. Oh my, its 2000 all over again, except Bush actually had experience. Just shows how desperate McCain is.

Just look at what Palin did with the Creamery Board to see how much judgement she has. Like Bush, she would not think before she acts, nor afterward.

I watched the annuoncement by McCain as he introduced Palin. I was focused on the background, the people in the audience. All white faces every one of them. Obama had 80,000 faced of all colors in a stadium.

Its going to be a landslide. Hopefully the republicans will be able to get back to their roots, but with Palin being elevated like this I doubt it. The GOP has become the Christian Evalgelical Party, and a minority party at that. Traditional wealthy republicans will move over to the democrats side in order to get things that need to be done in this country done.

Religion is a colossal waste of time and a lot of imaginary man made hocus pocus mumbo jumbo.

Um, Geraldine Ferraro was the first female VP candidate for the Dems. Back in the 80's. If McCain is elected then it will be a first.

"The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman"

Yes, I'm afraid to say that your fairly well-reasoned (albeit through rose-colored conservative glasses) argument pretty much falls apart with your historical end-gaffe. Tell me, Mr. Waters, are you a freshman or a sophomore? And are you totally into Coldplay?

Let me challenge one assumption: this Catholic is voting for Obama.

While it is a good decision to pick someone to appeal to your voter base (conservative) and to draw in wary constituents (evangelicals), I can't help but think that this was orchestrated to draw away Hilary supporters. I think that Palin's pro-life view and ties to oil companies may backfire, especially if Hillary begins heavily campaigning for Obama and her supporters listen.

Yeah, I am sure McCain made this pick to appease American evangelicals... NOT. I'm sure it had nothing to do with swaying women voters and building upon his already sizable pool of pissed off Hillary supporters.

So....Papa Ray...you're voting for Sarah Palin because she has the same name as your granddaughter? How inspiring. How educated. How not suprising.

I like Palin because she's a soccer mom and she's pro-life. Just the qualities I'm looking for in a potential President. She's not just pro-life, she proliferates faster than a pooch in an Amish puppy mill.

"The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman."

The fact that you can't even remember Geraldine Ferraro's campaign for VP under Walter Mondale shows just how much of a non-issue this is.

ferraro was and is a joke

@Seema

Papa Ray's logis is not really that far of a stretch from the logic 99% of African Americans are using to vote for Obama.

Perhaps she decided to have her Downs child because she has tons of cash and a full-time staff that can take care of the child?

"The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman"

Ferraro, oh well. Details, details. What's all this quibbling over a few historical facts among friends? The first REPUBLICAN ticket to have a woman, at any rate . . . .

I am an American living overseas and I see the choice of John McCain, as a new breath of fresh air for our party and country. They will have my vote on election day.... May God Bless America,John McCain,Sarah Palin and The Republican Party....

Ferraro wasn't the first either. Theodora Nathan was the first woman to recieve a vote in the electoral college (as VP on the Libertarian ticket) in 1972 (cast by an elector from Virginia who had been pledged for Nixon).

I would love to tell you that I was surprised by McCain's pick Alaska Governor, Sarah Palin but I am not. For many reasons, I saw this coming. McCain's Cardinals are Karl Rove & William Kristol (PNAC: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Century ). The Neoconservative's appear to be taking a gamble but they have the Trojan Horse nominee, John McCain, and are looking to match McCain's "maverick brand" with face that will palatable to both women and Christian Conservatives. For McCain to win he needs to keep the Anti-Choice crowd happy while appealing to some disgruntled Hillary deadenders.

Democrats may have just check mated McCain into making what appears initially to be a bold move but will prove to be a huge mistake. Enlightened women in America see through the chicanery of offering a hot looking inexperienced conservative anti-choice babe as an insult to their intelligence. With all due respect, my advice to Governor Sarah Palin would be: "Don't leave your day job in Alaska, just yet." I have a sneaking suspicion that McCorpse will be raising Arizona come January.

As a made for TV Move on the Lifetime Channel Old Man & the MILF" may make sense but I do not think it will make a good reality show.

McCain did not choose Palin. The powers that hijacked and destroyed the Republican party did.McCain looked nervous and unsure of the appointment of Palin.The McCain camp is completely desperate.

Someone get Mr. McCain his alzheimer meds. He truly demonstrated his judgment. What an awful first executive decision. All he saw was a woman who could may get some sympathy votes from the Hillary 'disappointeds' and eye candy for the evangelicals.

The race is on again!

Yes, and it's also wonderful how instead of being there to raise this four month old child with Down's Syndrome she's running for vice-president. Excellent family values, that decision.

I'm not evangelical, but I support Palin. I think she'd actually protect my freedom, not waste it. I don't like McCain. I don't like Obama. I really didn't like Clinton (though I voted for her husband). I'm excited about Palin and I hope the press focus on the truth: she has strong opinions that folks can choose to like or dislike, but she does have executive experience (unlike Obama or McCain).

IS THIS THE ONLY ISSUE THAT MATTERS TO YOU PEOPLE? ARE YOU REALLY THAT IGNORANT? YOU VALUE VOTERS ARE THE REASON THIS COUNTRY IS IN THE MESS IT IS IN TODAY. WHAT THIS COUNTRY REALLY NEEDS IS TO DO AWAY WITH ALL YOU BLIND FREAKS. TAKE YOUR MORAL AGENDA'S ELSEWHERE. YOU ARE RUINING THIS NATION.

The Obama Biden ticket is now 100% stronger and the self proclaimed Hockey Mom from Alaska put an end to four more years of BUSH!

She's a good choice in that conservatives now have a higher comfort level with McCain. This clear out some of the apathy many conservatives feel about McCain and actually get them to the polls to vote.

If this pick goes down well in the Bible Belt it'll be a sad commentary on the state of modern America. There were far better-qualified pro-life options, not to mention FAR more experienced women. Palin is utterly, laughably unqualified for national politics and about the most obvious pander McCain could have made. If she's supposed to attract Clinton PUMA voters, McCain might have tried finding someone at least marginally similar to Clinton - capable and intelligent and strong.

This is just...sad.

"The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman." yeah ...again, not!

Time to get the prostrating to invisible beings out of American politics ...leave that for other nations. Time for America to move forward.

@George Michael

I think you misunderstood. Palin is the FIRST woman on a republican ticket. This is true. Maybe you should practice your reading and understanding skills? What part of that statement do you not understand?

Isn't she being investigated for abuse of power?

Can we pick Palin as president? Finally someone who is in touch with reality. Everyones tougher in Alaska. Putin should be worried.

I think the choice was great. It now hands the presidency to the Democrats and a change that is badly needed.

Truly amazing, think the Republicans just secured the white house.

This Catholic is voting for McCain. Pope John Paul always says defend life of the unborn child.

Well, here is McCain's first cut to the federal budget. Since he doesn't believe in equal pay for equal work he won't have to pay Palin as much as he would have had to pay Pawlenty or Romney. My question for Palin is where will she live? She is the first governor of Alaska that hasn't lived in Juneau, the capital city. Will she continue to live in Wasilla instead of Washington if she is elected?

Geraldine Ferraro does ring a bell. In fact she was on TV last week talking about the gender bias that was apparent during the Obama campaign. Good on McCain for showing the courage and confidence to offer the opportunity to Palin. I suspect it will serve him well. It will with this voter.

And in conclusion... panic panic McCain all the same...

please keep religion out of my government

I believe you are also forgetting that Glenn Close was Vice President under Harrison Ford.

I THINK THATS COOL

I'm wondering what membership in NRA has to do with Christianity, evangelical or otherwise.

As a father of 6, pro-life democrat, I think it shows terrible family values for the mother of a 4-month old with Down syndrome to spend so much time away on a campaign trail. Luckily for the child, she'll be back in Alaska full time after November 4.

Palin is not the first woman on a ticket - Geraldine Ferraro received that honor. Although she is the first GOP to do so.

I'm not convinced,this seems more to me to be an attempt to pander to those undecided individuals who may have voted for clinton and are wavering on obama. As for me, my concerns are still revolving around the fact that she is #2 in the white house possibly and has little to no experience in foreign affairs, governs a state that is tiny and the only link seems to be that it is a state that may 'rescue' us out of our dependence on foreign oil? McCain is wavering seriously if he is still going forward with our homeland security is priority #1 and placing someone so inexperienced in the veep seat.

Your concluding paragraph forgot or ignored Geraldine Ferraro. Even Palin didn't. You wrote "he Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman."

You need to change the the to their.

pro-gun, pro-life? WWJD??

If and when something happens to McCain, is the fact that she's a conservative woman with too many kids really the only criteria people are prepared to set for Palin as President of the United States?

A dumb move to appeal to dumb people.

ROBERT:
"Let me challenge one assumption: this Catholic is voting for Obama."

Indeed, Robert, as are Ted Kennedy, Joe Biden, and probably millions of others. This culture of bifurcation the media has led us into (red states and blue states, all Catholics are one-issue voters, people with ovaries must vote for a woman -- ANY woman) has become increasingly offensive. I have many Catholic friends who are voting for Obama this year. I'm sure this VP pick will not hurt the GOP turnout. Whether or not it will galvanize them (and whether or not that will make a difference in the face of the Democratic turnout maelstrom the GOP faces this year) is a question that remains to be answered.

Governor Palin advocates for drilling oil and natural gas. Big change in the Vice Presidency: not an oil man, but an oil woman.

Goodbye Darth Vader - Hello Darth Mater!

I am sick and tired of the media and columnists who always come up with trivial issues ignoring the challenges this nation is facing.America...you get what you deserve..

I'm an evangelical Christian, and I'm sure I'd like Sarah for my friend. I admire her choice in protecting the life of her Downs Syndrome baby, her service to her community, etc. but that does not mean I want her to be VP. What does she know about foreign policy or economics or energy diversity. The thought of her being president if and when 72 year old McCain can not lead scares me. This was a desparate attempt to get Hillary votes, not to choose the best person for the job.

NRA+Christian?
Jesus? When one of his disciples even picked up a sword against an enemy, Jesus said,"Put it down."

How can a follower of Jesus also be a gun carrying person. But, then again, what does Jesus have to do with evangelicalism in America? Absolutely nothing.

I am a pro-life woman. I am pro-life in every sense of the word - guided by the basic tenet: thou shalt not kill. Nothing could induce me to vote for McCain and Palin. McCain will keep us in Iraq and perpetuate the death and destruction of that war - a war that is not justified on the basis of self-defense (or any other purpose). Whether killing is done in the name of "choice" at home or "promoting freedom" abroad - it is killing all the same. Christians understand this - Rovian spin doctors do not.

The evangelicals quoted in this article are clearly single-issue voters. They care less about having a qualified vice president than they do about whether McCain's ticket looks like an "authentic pro-life ticket". The role of a vice president is more than just a message on an issue.

The author displays just this sort of ignorance of the bigger picture when he mistakenly states that the McCain-Palin ticket would be the first major ticket to include a woman.

Here we have a demonstration of a poor way to reason about who should govern this country!

Oh no more god crap in politics.

Believe what you like but don't try to force it on the rest of the public.

This tactic won't be successful.

It hypes me up - I was going to vote for Bob Barr but now I'm voting for McCain!!

"The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman."

This is not true and Palin herself said so by pointing out the groundbreaking candidacy of Geraldine Ferraro in 1984.

She also pointed out that Hillary was the closest to actually being nominated for President.

@Greg:

That sentence is ambiguous and could be construed either way. It does not put my reading comprehension into question, but rather Mr. Waters' writing skills.

The Republicans just gave up the only issue they'd hung their hat on concerning Obama - inexperience.

A TV sports reporter? Mayor of a town of 6,000 people? An accidental, partial-term governor of a state with a population smaller than most Lower-48 state capitals?

C'mon!

I don't want the 1st term Governor of Alaska nor the Ex-Mayor of Wasilla, ak, population 6500; who was a former Sportsbrodcaster to be 1 heartbeat away from the Presidency. When the guy who picked her has poor judgment skills and a reputation of being "insane McCain" in the way he talks to people on the House of Congress floor.
If the judgment choices of the Republican party are limited to these two people running for office, then I will stay home & watch the landslide on TV !

Hate t tell you but this idiot just gave away the election.

I find it interesting that so many are saying MC chose Palin to gain women and evangelical votes. Is not Obama's VP choice a call for votes in his unexperianced direction. Hello people this is all about winning the race! Dont act so shocked.

I THINK THATS COOL

Her children will carry the election.

I think McCain has found the female equivalent of Dan Quayle... I almost feel sorry for her...
The cynicism inherent in this pick is mind-blowing and transparent. Hillary supporters will not migrate to an anti-choice ticket. No way, now how.

1st gimmick-Democrats propelling unknown, inexperienced non white male to the Democratic ticket.
2nd gimmick-McCain propelling unknown, inexperienced non white male to the Republican ticket.

Obama Biden are 1 experienced (Biden) and 1 inexperienced (Obama) ticket.
McCain Palin are 1 experienced (McCain) and 1 inexperienced (Palin) ticket.
Both tickets have unknowns (Obama and Palin) who might have questionable pasts that could haunt them.
Both tickets are breaking barriers.
Both tickets have youth and age.
Both tickets have a stuffy old white guy.

Maybe now we can get to the issues and solve some problems. Seeing as how cooler heads and rationale usually prevail, I'm putting my money on the Right.

The republicans just won. Amazing. The dems had this election all but taken. But then they decided to put the poster boy for affirmative action in as their selection. Basically an empty suit with a good marketing team. (His convention was put on by the same company that produces Brittany Spears concerts).

I am amused and amazed at the ineptitude of the democrats. They wanted SO BADLY to have a black man in office that they threw everything else out the window. Now they are screwed.

In response to Corky...I think it does enter many Evangelicals mind that she could be the next president. Many Evangelicals vote values/morals over taxes, healthcare, etc. It is a sharp divide in our country, but I do believe that once our values are in the right place...healthcare and the like will be of no concern. When we are all on the same page, we can see to it that no child is left behind. The list goes on and on.

I can't wait for the first Biden/Palin debate, especially when the topic of foreign affairs comes up.

Q. Governor Palin, how would you have responded to a Russian invasion of South Ossetia?

A. Well, first I would pray for the Lord to smite that godless nation. Then I would go for a run.

McCain is reaching now. He wants those women who are mad at Obama for not picking Hillary. He also is trying to scoop up the evangelicals. This does nothing to help him or his party. Where is the foreign policy experience? Where is the domestic policy experience? Who has really, really done something for someone else and worked for what they have? Answer that question and you will have the real candidate.

What conservatives seem to forget is that with access to family planning and properly funded sex education, abortion rates go down, as they did when Bill Clinton was President. Under GW Bush, with his hard-line against family planning and the substituting of sex education for abstinence preaching, abortions went up.

I am one of those evangelical Christians, and I was on the fence between Obama and McCain until today. McCain's choice sealed my vote - for Obama.

Geraldine Ferraro was the first female VP on a ticket.

What a show of judgment' - not. Don't worry fellow Americans, go to your nearest ATM and keep yourself occupied. Go do some shopping, because this is a real disaster and too hard for your pscyhe.

I am Catholic and I am voting for Obama! And a woman! I think that people who are voting for this little pair needs to see what she is really about... like check out the article about how she was or is under an investigation with something to do about her ethics?! This country doesnt need another person in power with an ethics problem!

This reminds me of the lip-service the Bush administration gave us with the doomed-at-inception Flag Burning constitutional amendment, and gay marriage constitutional amendment. McCain will play coy games with us for votes and, then leave us hanging without any satisfaction if elected.

Will we fall for it again? Waste another vote on more lip service? Wasting votes on McCain just to get nothing is pointless. If nothing is going to happen, we should at least make use of our votes to send a message that we don't appreciate lip service from OUR leaders. Leave that sort of thing to the dems.

Cast a vote that means something. Vote for Bob Barr so we can get our message across once and for all. If we don't do it now, our leaders will never get the message, and they will continue to treat us like doormats that can be manipulated by parlor tricks.

Well, I was on the edge. I was hoping for someone more moderate like Romney, I don't think I'll be voting in this election.

Only thing Sarah Palin has going for her is: She is very sexy.

The rest is typical conservative crap which isn't much different than typical liberal crap.

Republicans and Democrats like big government and spending money. She isn't a fiscal conservative like they make her out to be.

One does not have to be a Christian to like Palin as VP. I'm just glad a woman is on the ballot. I was ready to cross party lines and vote for Hillary Clinton, but now I will stay with my party and vote for the real change this country needs. Future generations will mix races such that we will all pretty much alike. But no matter how hard people try to mix the genders, they always come out either male or female. It's time the other half gets a shot at the highest office to show us what they can do. To answer other people's concern about Palin as Commander in Chief, she is already in that role as the Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard. She already has two years more executive experience than does Obama, so I don't understand what the concern is about in the first place.

McCain just made a very smart, strategic move. With his VP choice of Palin, he not only secured the vote of pro-lifers and evangelicals, he effectively drove a wedge between the democratic party and pro-Hillary women voters who chafe at the Biden VP pick. Her pro-energy business record, lifetime NRA membership, mother of 5 credentials, and avid hunter/fisher hobbies will, I think, appeal to a wide swath of conservatives and independents. She's not bad on the eyes either. This race just got very interesting. This country will either have it's first black president or first women vice president.

Only In America

Sarah Palin is living proof that anyone can be President of the United States. Absolutely anyone.

God help us.

How could they pick a woman whose only experience is 2 years as governor of a State with 650,000 people and before that Mayor of a town with 9,000 people to be a heartbeat from the presidency and frankly and old and tired heartbeat at that! Does anyone want this woman as our President?!
And by the way why isnt anyone mentioning today's is Mccain's 72nd birthday - the only way to avoid that story was by picking an unqualified person as VP.

The republicans just won. Amazing. The dems had this election all but taken. But then they decided to put the poster boy for affirmative action in as their selection. Basically an empty suit with a good marketing team. (His convention was put on by the same company that produces Brittany Spears concerts).

I am amused and amazed at the ineptitude of the democrats. They wanted SO BADLY to have a black man in office that they threw everything else out the window. Now they are screwed.

Geraldine Ferraro was the choice for the Democratic VP - not the Republicans.

Do you think McCain will try and get Sarah Palin to do a little drilling for oil of of the Alaska coast? And will it benefit Sarah's husband, who works for BP? (British Petroleum)

And how is she going to give her 5-month old infant who was born with Down Syndrome the attention and care that the child will need and deserves? Won't she be quite busy with a rigorous schedule as VP?

Just some food for thought...

religion does not belong in politics. our country is doomed if we allow the backwoods moral minority to continue to undermine everything this country was founded on. they do not believe in freedom. they do not believe in rationality. they only believe in fiction and their own false sense of self importance and superiority.

evangelicals are the death of this nation.

If Mr. Land and other Evangelicals think that being a member of the NRA and prolife are the credentials needed to satisfy them then so be it. This time the Democrats have it right. It's all about what this nation has shamefully become under George Bush. Under George Bush and the Republican Party this nation lost its moral compass, especially it's compassion for "the least of these." Palin is a nice lady, a good mom, and a good governor...and unfortunately the VP of a pandering presidential nominee who has put his political aspirations above all else. A maverick would use sound judgement and not capitulate to the right wing of his party just to try to get elected.

With the addition of a woman to his ticket mccain can wave goodbye to osama obama on his way to the whitehouse :0)

Once again... i will not be voting...

Would it be too much to ask for REAL candidates to be nominated. Ones' who can actually make a difference and not just conglomerated, imagined candidates manufactured as a commodity for votes... I understand it is a contest. However, we have a nation to think about. Put the party political crap aside, and lets have a REAL President!! just my $.02

A brilliant gamble

Everybody likes Sarah Palin. She's dynamic, likable, and a good person.

She's very Christian, and pro-Life, and will bring in the Fundamentalist vote.

McCain distances himself from the corrupt "Republicrats" with this choice, and shores up his ticket's conservative credentials.

She's a woman. This will help the ticket being perceived as at least somewhat progressive and diverse.

BUT
She's a newbie! Very little experience-- absolutely zero in terms of foreign policy. She's not used to playing with the big wigs.

She's a small-town, small-minded, fundamentalist Christian woman who got swept into power by the corruption scandals in Alaska.

She makes John McCain look OLD. Sarah Palin could easily end up President, which is very frightening.

Barak hussein O. like all the other slobbering liberal hippies, never accomplish anything. they love to talk beautiful rhetoric but lack any ability to actually do something.
Mrs Palin has already accomplished a whole lot more than hussein.

The Obama camp must be going nuts. McCain selected a woman who is better looking than Michelle and a better basketball player than Obama. Wow, way to go John.

I feel that behind every man stands a good women and finally we will have someone to speak who has been there. Wife, Mother and Career women what more could we ask for. Alaska loves her and so do I........

Isn't it a shame that there are so few people in the voting U.S. who can't accept the fact that Sarah Palin is absolutely her own woman. She can't be bought off, can't be talked down to, can't be condescended, and will absolutely not allow democrats to get her goat ! More importantly, she is a good Christian !

YAY! YAY! YAY!! All you Obama supporters are sweating in your boots aren't you! HAHAHA!!!

I think the writer mis-spoke and meant to say, "The Repubs have the first REPUBLICAN Woman selected for VP, while the Dems had the first DEMOCRATIC Woman for VP." By the way, Geraldine Ford is VERY PLEASED with McCain's choice (FOX NEWS; CNN).

Palin is a GREAT choice and while she won't win all of Clinton's followers, she will win some. The most important issue here is that McCain did not abandon the conservative evangelicals for the sake of winning some of Clinton's supporters. He simply did what was best for this party. There was NO BETTER choice for America!!!

God Bless America - the land of the free - where Dems try to make it unpatriotic to be patriotic:( SAD!

To Paul, who said that having a woman leave for a job is bad family values...

What the hell is wrong with a father being the primary care giver? I am a stay at home father, People who think that only a mother can care for the children are backwoods thinkers.

Robert, Your comment that you are Catholic and are voting for Obama seems like an oxymoron. For the life of me I don't see how anyone can claim to be Catholic when they don't even believe the basic things that Catholics believe such as respect for life.

Most voters will relate to her first as a Mom and a wife to an everyday (union) steelworker. That plays really well in Ohio and Pennsylvania, and those states are critical. Those qualities alone should cause concern for the Obama camp, that looked like they had it locked up until today. The fact that she is an evangelical, gun-toting, pro-lifer is going to bring out folks in the south, that may have stayed home. She is an unknown, and as a result web sites from the Alaska Governor's Office, the McCain Campaign, and various political sites have been literally overloaded beyond capacity. The has been choices, Romney, Ridge, etc., could have never created this kind of buzz. If she can debate Biden solidly, and that is a big "IF," then McCain may once again rise from the dead, like he did in the Republican primary. If nothing else, the selection was bold, and demonstrates a candidate willing to buck the Washington political machine. Maybe she'll fizzle away or maybe the gun-toting conservative Mom will be the second coming of Margaret Thatcher. Either way, this just got a lot more fun to watch!

Palin is a great choice for many reasons. She is a governor, she has expertise in energy which may be the overwhelming issue of the election, she is small town star and will attract the small town "bitter people" that Obama disses, she has been to Kuwait and has a better grasp of foreign policy than has yet to be talked about, she establishes America's right to Alaska which the Russians are questioning again (we'll see what Putin has to say about this), and she energizes a large segment of the Republican party. she is an outside washignon reformer, etc etc.

Obama talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk. He blinked badly on his first "presidential" decision and chose a political hack Biden, rather than reformer. By the way have either of them been to Alaska?

The Republicans are really showing their desperation. I guess they figure a long shot is better than a sure loss. All but the most simple minded and sexist Hillary supporters will lead the charge against Palin as she is the polar opposite of Hillary on almost every issue.

I'm an Alaskan. I know Palin. She is a winner. Strategically, McCain could not have made a better choice. When America gets to know her, they will wonder why she is not at the top of the ticket...someday...in the mean time, I hope she pushes for as many VP debates as possible - she steals the show in that venue. This will change the race as much as Clinton's focus on the economy vs Bush 1. She is the best representative women could have. This is not a political hail mary, but a shrewd and wise choice for VP. It fundamentally changes the nature of this race, and makes a Obama's call for 'change' look superficial and weak.

Hey McCain...what a show of 'judgment', almost as good as my sonny boy's.

I am so excited about this McCain VP pick. I was not excited about John McCain until now! I had been looking hard a Obama but his position on live birth abortions is to say the least grizzly, contrasting that to Gov. Palin signing a safe haven bill for infants. I like that much better. I don't have any idea what religion she is nor do I care. Principles are what is important.

@ GREG: The article does not say Palin is the first woman on a "Republican presidential ticket." It says the Republicans have "the first presidential ticket to include a woman." That wording clearly implies that the author has forgotten about Geraldine Ferraro.

I'm catholic and voting for Obama

John McCain=mentally ill (PTSD, Alzheimers, Senility) but has faux "maverick" brand that appeals to some Dems & Independents.

John McCain=Neocon Trojan Horse

McCain + Palin=Neocon Deception to inspire Republican base.

McCain's cardinals are Karl Rove & William Kristol (PNAC: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Century).

I am sick of these men in their crumpled suits, spouting the same hot air, she will make a fresh and fun ticket. McCain-Palin-08

Tech Consultant wrote: "Ferraro, oh well. Details, details. What's all this quibbling over a few historical facts among friends? The first REPUBLICAN ticket to have a woman, at any rate . . . ."

Its interesting when you consider that republicans always seem to be about 25 years behind the democrats in everything, from integration to accepting social programs to electing women to office to appointing minorities to putting a woman on the presidential ticket. I guess we will have to wait until the election of 2032 to see a black on the republican presidential ticket.

Stop dragging your feet republicans and come into the 21st century, or at least the 20th century. Look at who is in the audience cheering McCain and Palin. 100% white people. It looks like a political rally in 1908! If your company employed that audience it would be investigated for discrimination for crying out loud.

I think that McCain's choice of VP candidate will no doubt assuage the fears of pro-life single-issue voters that McCain stands for the values they espouse. However, as is the GOP's modus operandi, the Republicans are engaging in mere puffery.

Do you think that choosing a VP who would deny women the right to choose will have any effect on President McCain's decisions to sign or veto bills presented for enactment? Aside from the VP's Senate duties, the Vice President is arguably the weakest Constitutional officer. In a Senate with a solid Democratic majority, I am gleeful that the Republicans have tricked social conservatives once again.

I am an Evangelical and an officer in the military. I am embarrassed that Evangelicals would vote for the McCain/Palin ticket based on her pro-life views alone. Her inexperience frightens me as a Soldier. The thought that she was chosen solely because she is pro-life and female is truly offensive on many levels. How much more shallow can they be?

Will,

For the love of God, get over yourself.

Signed,
Pope Benedict

Sarah Palin is even less known than Barak.
I wonder if the media will be asking Who is
she, we dont know anything about her.
I see she has stolen Hilary"s 18 million cracks
in the ceiling.I hope she is not so presumptious
as to try to compare herself to Hilary.She is no
comparison.

So all McCain can do is find someone who is an anti-science creationist. Now there is a forward looking ticket to lead America back to the 1930s. She could lead the Republican charge on education!

"The volatile issue of teaching creation science in public schools popped up in the Alaska governor's race this week when Republican Sarah Palin said she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in the state's public classrooms."

I am an Evangelical and former pastor and will NEVER vote for MCsaime. Evangelicals have been taught to vote on Two issues: Abortion and Gay Marriage. The people effected by these two issues combined come no where near to the amount of people effected by poverty in our country. People who have no chance at the American dream. The thought that the wealthy in America will some how allow their wealth to trickle down to the poor in our country it absolutely foolish. Bottom line is the only hope the republican party has is to continue to scare evangelicals into voting for them.

Unbelievable. It is not about gender. Can the person do the job. America is headed down stream for another 4 years if republicans win

White women will decide this election. All blacks (95 percent)will vote for Barack because he is black. By the same token, white women, already rejected by Obama who chose an 36-year Washington insider for VP, will vote for McCain in larger numbers than ever imagined. The Democrtas kicked Hillary in the teeth with the help of the "old media." Sara Palin levels the playing field. McCain wins!

What beauty pagent did she win?

Good to see so many emails bashing the Waters article. To me it means real hope for America.

And to you, Papa Ray, I say, God bless you, but you dinosaurs have had your day. It's extinction time, as it must be for this planet to evolve.

Oops. Did I say evolution?

BTW, Obama enjoyed the largest television audience in history last night. God works in strange ways, doesn't he, Papa?

The problem with Palin as the VP pick is that it is such an immense insult to women. The only reason she is on the ticket is because she is a woman and McCain in making a play for Hillary's voters. Let's be truthful here - she doesn't bring anything other than that. This is a spit in the face of all the hard work women have done to get to where they are. It is insulting and degrading. But then we knew all along that McCain is quite comfortable insulting and degrading women. I have no doubt that once women across America reflect on this decision, it will drive them away from the Republican party on a mass scale.

CORKY:
Does it even enter the evangelical mindset that this woman could be next prez of the United States? What is wrong with Republicans?? You've had a torturing war monger for prez and because he was born again you re-elected him. Unfortunately all you care about is creating the armagedon, not the protection of america.

To Corky:
Wow. That was about the most uneducated, uninformed, uninspiring, tepid comment I've read on here. Way to categorize an entire group of people into one stereotypical group. Good job. Everyone can do that. I'm a Christian. I voted for Gore when George W. ran against him. Then I voted for Bush against Kerry. Was it because I am an "evengelical" bent on incurring the Armageddon? I voted for Gore because he was a stronger candidate and after learning, reading, talking, researching about him, I found him to be better suited to be president than Bush. I applied the same thought process when I voted for Bush over Kerry. Fault me as you will, but I did not vote for Bush because I am a Christian and my track record shows it. I voted for him because I felt, after doing what I could to educate myself about him, that he was better suited. I admit, he hasn't been, but I can't predict the future.

You're ridiculous and I am unimpressed with the fact that you would automatically assume that just because an individual adheres to some form of religious belief that would automatically label that person as a fanatical war-mongerer who is uninterested in the protection and security of the nation in which they live in.

Friggen bible beaters anyway, isn't there supposed to be a seperation between church and state? If so you bible beaters, look at the political topics at hand and stay out of religeon when it comes to electing our next Prez!
Right now this country is in turmoil because you friggen bible beaters put GWB in the White House and if you say your lives are just as good now as it was during the Clinton Administration, you are lieing to yourselves!

VOTE OBAMA IN NOVEMBER OR THIS COUNTRY WILL GO TO HE11!

Sarah Palin ran against a sitting governor who had served 20 years in Congress and beat him soundly. Her opponent was a former governor with the support of the Clinton administration. In her first term as governor she was stood up to the oil companies where she championed a tax structure that returned more of their profits to the owners of the resource, the people of Alaska. Her administration prosecuted corrupt politicans in the pocket of an oil service company and they now enjoy 3 hots and a cot courtesy of the State of Alaska. Her approval rating in AK is 80+% in a state of highly independent indivduals. She is a great choice for VP. I'll take integrity and backbone over 20 years on the Senate payroll anyday.

Democracy was a bad choice.

I'm actually rather heartened that this election is such a transparent popularity contest between one candidate who will surely continue the same slow bleed of sovereignty and wealth out of this country and another who would rather make the swift suicidal cut to the jugular started by his same-party predecessor. Bomb Iran FTW!

In fact, I think I'm voting for McCain just so the chaos and ruin will come all the sooner. I do hate it when disaster drags on ominously.

Whatever happened to Ron Paul?

Gov Pavin's story is awesome. She has a bigger pair than BO and Biden put together, who have never ran anything but their mouths. Great Pick John. Get elected then fake a health problem in 2011, so she can take over and clean out the rank cesspool in Washington.

Dave
Peoria, AZ

GREAT Choice! Read the Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin article on her. Palin is a maverick that challenges both parties and the status quo. She is articulate and brings some executive experience, which none of the others have, but more importantly, she uses her time wisely. She fights corruption and argues against the victim mentality. She calls for self-reliance, and she is both an environmentalist and pro-energy realist.
Hillary may have made more cracks in the glass ceiling but the Republicans brought one through.

She's a trophy Veep.

>>OHIO_STUDENT:
The evangelicals quoted in this article are clearly single-issue voters. They care less about having a qualified vice president than they do about whether McCain's ticket looks like an "authentic pro-life ticket".

OR, maybe they care more about a qualified president then a less qualified president. This as opposed to a qualified VP then a less qualified VP.

And, hello, this is a faith-based article, not one on commerce or foreign affairs or maybe their responses would have been different.

Keep learning Student.

On behalf of the Democratic party of America and all the hard working volunteers around the U.S. I would like to thank Senator John McCain for conceding the Presidential election.

I hope the Senator finds peace and happiness in his future endeavors. If he can remember which house he's living in this week.

Bringing on the fresh younger Gov. Palin is a brilliant choice for VP.

I believe introducing a washington outsider is the best thing any party could do at this point.

I must admit I was a little concerned about his age despite Ronald Reagan's success. I am no longer concerned about his age nor his ability to make the right choice about anything when it matters.

Good luck John!

We have a constitutionally protected right that keeps religion and politics from mixing.
Why does noone try to uphold this?

I don't care which god you worship, or if you worship at all...I just want a president who will put the needs of the country before his/her wallet, self-interest and religion.

I am thrilled for the McCain/Palin ticket. Excellent choice. A victory for all Americans today! Be glad someone who values life, family & moving forward to a better America is McCain's running mate. I salute you McCain.

I agree with so many others...I am an evangelical Christian with strong beliefs. I KNEW I wasn't going to vote for Obama and what he stood for, and really didn't want to vote for McCain. I also knew that God was in control of this election...so He has put Palin in place. With this addition, I will definitely be voting Republican again!

I do not care about Obama or McCain. But I will vote for her. My vote is sealed. A mother of five is better then any man on earth. This country needs a woman VP.

This is the first time I have been truly excited about elections in years. Sarah is a breath of fresh air and she understands what america needs.
She is one of us and is a real person and will think like us unlike the plastic Obama. Obama scares the livin daylights out of me as we own a small business and can not afford higher taxes!
Our son is serving in Iraq and I know Sarah is behind our troops.

Senator McCain’s pick of Palin blew me away!! A mom of five, Commander and Chief of Alaska’s National Guard, business women, women, marathon runner, wife of 20 years, reformer, daughter of a teacher, husband a union member, NRA member, Pro-Life, Governor of Alaska, flute player, Christian, beauty queen, basketball point guard….etc…..etc….

McCain picked one hell of a “Stud” as his running mate. I am thrilled and look forward to doing all that I can to help him win the presidency!!

Sincerely,

Steve

Alpharetta, GA

She is no doubt a person of principle and faith. On other occasions I would think what an interesting person she was.

However, this is a presidential campaign and where is the evidence of the maturity and the experience and the skill that will be desirable and necessary in someone a heartbeat away from the man who will be the oldest president to start a first term ever? Given that McCain has some history of health problems, is it too much to ask for a Veep who could be president if the situation called for it? I suspect that the 3B's will not be enough here.

Sarah Palin info from wiki:

Palin's husband, Todd, works for BP energy corporation at an oil field on Alaska's North Slope and works as a fisherman in his hometown in the summers. Todd is a champion snowmobiler, winning the 2,000-mile (3,200 km) "Iron Dog" race four times. Todd is one-eighth Yup'ik. The two eloped shortly after Palin graduated from college; when they learned they needed witnesses for the civil ceremony, they recruited two residents from the old-age home down the street. The Palin family lives in Wasilla, about 40 miles (64 km) north of Anchorage.

On September 11, 2007, the Palins' then eighteen-year-old son Track, eldest of five, joined the Army. He now serves in an infantry brigade and will be deployed to Iraq on September 11, 2008. She also has three daughters: Bristol, Willow and Piper.

On April 18, 2008, while in office as governor, Palin gave birth to her second son and fifth child, Trig Paxson Van Palin, who has Down syndrome. She returned to the office three days after giving birth. Her decision to have the baby after prenatal genetic testing revealed he had the disorder was applauded by the pro-life community.

Details of Palin's personal life have contributed to her political image. She hunts, eats moose hamburger, ice fishes, rides snowmobiles, and owns a float plane. Palin holds a lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association. In December 2007, Palin posed for a photo spread in the fashion magazine Vogue.

Guys, read the context. He's referring that that the Republicans have their first presidential ticket to include a woman. I'm still unsure about this pick. Do not underestimate the evangelical vote like John Kerry did in the 2004 election, however it does make it harder for him to make the experience argument. I do agree that at least she has a few years of executive experience, compared to zero by Obama, but time will tell if this will backfire. I think this is a huge pick, and one that will either lift McCain to victory where he may have fallen just short, or completely eliminate his chance for the White House.

Pro-life is such a joke. These people are only care about life when it is in fertilized egg form. If that child grows up in poverty, they do nothing. When that child has the potential to go to college, they don't care. And when they realize there hasn't been a good ole' Middle Eastern war in a while, they will draft the same fetus they fought so hard to save 20 years earlier and send it off to die.

This pick is disastrous. While it may shore up some of the base, McCain needs independents, moderates and defecting Democrats and that isn't going to happen when he gives away his strongest asset -- relative experience.

How many of you posting that the Palin selection was a joke and she is not qualified realy know anything about her? Have you ever heard her speak or be interviewed? What do you really know about her experience? It's amazing how quickly the Obamamanics will demonize someone without any knowledge about that person.

From the heart of the bluest county in country, I have to say I was moved by McCain's introduction to Sarah Palin. I have hopes and concerns however.

I am hoping that the choice was made because of her strong and passionate ability to change the status quo. She has been effective is standing up to the good old boy network, oil companies and even the Federal Government in her short, but remarkable tenure as govenor.

I am VERY concerned if this was to appease conservatives or the religious right of the Republican Party. I would like to hear that her stance as Pro-life is a personal choice and that she doesn't adhere to the Republican platform stance of a National Ban on Abortions. It is still difficult for me to justify the stance that the Government has a say about such a personal decision, when its the Republican Party who says government should "Get out of our way". How much more in "our way" could a govenrment be than to force women to have unwanted children.

I would like her to say that she thinks there is a problem with the government supporting insurance companies paying for vigara when they will not pay for birth control.

But I hope and dream and wish that this is a call for indepence and a change in direction from the "collective wisdon" of the RNC.

I still don't understand how you go after the Evangelical vote by picking a Catholic. At least she's conservative, but I'd bet she's just a lost as McCain.

apparently mccain forgot to take his L dopa pills for his alzheimers disease. i wonder if he even knows that he is running for president of the US, he probably thinks he is running for prez of a golf resort. Thank God Obama will be the next prez.

She does not believe in science. Science needs logic. Republicans are illogical, and will soon be extinct.

The GOP has definitely lost its way and this will be my first election not voting for a Republican. I feel dirty and funny; the feeling you get when you run around w/o undies....

The GOP requires a religious test for its candidates. Also, its a sad day when Bill Clinton is more fiscally responsible than your GOP congress and president...

9.5 Trillion dollar debt. Thank you GOP!!!

I almost choked when I heard of McCain's choice. While Palin may be operating well in her first term as Governor of Alaska...she has NONE of the credentials to be VP. She does not have the experience in government to takeover the presidency, she has absolutely NO international exposure or acumen, she does not have the economic background to manage a stricken national economy, she has no real exposure to National Security issues...I can go on and on. We should not choose the leader of the free world based on our emotional subjective feeling about abortion or gun ownership. The neo-cons have found themselves another unqualified straw-man(woman). How absolutely embarrasing.

This is a perfect choice to expose the hypocrisy of the left. The left is putting up an empty suit and a VP who not-so-secretly would rather run with McCain. The right is putting up an experienced candidate who is a hero and who reaches out to all sides, and now a female VP who is more qualified than the left’s Presidential candidate.

Wow, what is going to happen on a "bad day", will will he call her a demeaning name like he did his wife?
Am I in the Twilight Zone or something, how desperate are these people to maintain power and keep the American people in pseudo slavery.
I will vote for Obama.

Sarah is smart cute and Jewish. Now that is the whole package.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY John Mccain - today he is 72. Anyone else concerned this Sarah person will be President in a few years if McCain wins. We might actually miss Bush if that happens - she will be a tool of the right just like Bush - plus she sounds like the female officer in Fargo!!!

Obama Paid $300,000 Less Than The Asking Price For His Mansion, While Tony Rezko's Wife Paid Full Price For A Vacant Lot Next Door On The Very Same Day.

Obama Later Purchased A Portion Of Rezko's Land For $104,500; It Was Valued At $40,500.

Rezko Was Convicted Of Wire And Mail Fraud, Money Laundering, And Aiding And Abetting Bribery.

Obama Provided Political Favors To Tony Rezko, Including Writing Letters On His Behalf:

As A State Senator, Barack Obama Wrote Letters To City And State Officials Supporting His Political Patron Tony Rezko's Successful Bid To Get More Than $14 Million From Taxpayers To Build Apartments For Senior Citizens." The Letters Show That Obama Did Do A Political Favor For Rezko. FLASHBACK: In December Of 2006, Obama Said He Had "Never Done Any Favors For Him." "The letters appear to contradict a statement last December from Obama, who told the Chicago Tribune that, in all the years he's known Rezko, 'I've never done any favors for him.'"

McCain could have picked far more experienced and qualified candidates who are pro-life and/or female. I hope that evangelicals will look past the mere fact that she's pro-life and consider the fact that McCain, who is the oldest first-term presidential nominee ever, has just chosen someone with ZERO national and foreign policy experience to be his potential replacement if something, God forbid, happens to him.

He shot himself in the foot with this one.

I wonder if the Focus on the Family types who believe that a mother's focus should be on her children and not in the workplace will keep their mouths shut for a few months now. Can you imagine what they would have said if the Democrats had nominated the mother of a young child to such a post?

As a Hillary supporter, I feel badly for her....she was disrespected by her husband and dumped by Obama. I may not like McCain...but I'm voting for him because of Palin.

Nothing against Ms. Palin. But her as president would be a disaster roughly equivalent to -my- election as president which would, I assure you, be quite the disaster. There's inexperienced, and then there's "dude. the white house. it's WHITE!" inexperienced. Nothing to do with intelligence, ability, or anything else; were Sen. McCain to stroke out and die, folks like Putin and Kim Jong Il and I'm a Dinner Jacket would eat the lunch of ANY person that new to the field, and leave that person asking if their guest would like dessert, too.

At least Obama has looked over a few shoulders and READ a treaty or two, and the more-experienced individual in his pairing is second-in command and therefore replaceable should -he- stroke out and die.

Unfortunately, I fear will be a great number of people who will look at the idea of a Fundamentalist in the White House and assume God will look after her and this great nation of ours should she find herself in the big chair. "Look how well President Bush is doing, and -he- didn't have much of a clue, either," I think they'll say.

I do hope I'm wrong.

Great selection by McCain. The left, it now appears, does not believe a woman with children should be outside the home or even have shoes on. I served with a mother of young children for years that happened to be a Democrat and she was the best. Not only did she out work everyone else, men and women, she was a terrific, devoted, loving, nurturing mother that looked good in shoes. Palin is the genuine article. Both Palin and McCain have sons in the armed services. Biden's children are using his influence to speculate on oil futures and reap huge profits from hedge funds. You don't say!

Does anyone pay attention to the last names of the Democratic candidates:
"Obama Biden" is very close to:
"Osama bin Laden"
if we drop few words and change letter "b" to "s"?

That is just the fact

An awful choice!!! A stab at winning when you have nothing. John McCain is not only 72 but has had melanoma three times. Sorry to say that means that this nobody will be President of the U.S. I hope not

The point is clear here. Palin is a social conservative. If you want the Government to control what you can and cannot do in your own bedroom, don't vote for McCain/Palin.

Religion. A lot of good it's done over the last 8 years huh? What a scam. And McCain is a desperate man picking this person as a running mate. I'm sure she's a nice woman, and good for her for making the decisions that were right in her mind, but she of all people should know that don't force your views on others. Freedom means the right to chose what's best for you. Not what's best for someone else's beliefs.

The religious right is one of the most lopsided thinking group of people I've ever seen. There's all this talk about loving each other and God's children. But that's only if you're not Gay, are pro life, or believe that there's some kind of God based on Jesus Christ. It's complete contradiction and these people live it in full faith everyday of their lives. It's to the point that it's just as scary as extremist terrorist views.

This nation will be in serious trouble if things don't change. I just can't see how anyone in the world would want more of what we've had over the last 8 years? It makes me wonder if these people have lost their minds to this religion stuff. And it's true. It really seems like they want to start their own Armageddon.

If McCain wins this election, especially now with this nut job running mate who obviously thinks her views should be everyone's views, with force, then I'm moving out of this country to a place where people have some common sense. If a place like that does not exist anymore I may just take my own life so I don't have to be a part of this ridiculous human existence anymore. It's sicking. I'd rather just blow out like a candle then be a part of this sickness in the world. Religion. It's like a really awful disease that's warping people's minds that thoughts. Who with any common sense thinks like this?

I was waiting for Mcain to choose a running mate so I could decide how to vote, this certainly helped. My sister had to take to her bed. I will be voting for Obama and we were Republicans yesterday.

No doubt that Palin, is a descent human being? But everybody knows that the Vice-President is a person who doesn't have power, like a scarecrow in a big feel of corn!!! "a person born to be a follower"

McCain in his despair agony of wining no matter what thought now is the moment to get those looser who supported Hillery Clinton, just because she is a woman, and won't support Obama.

So, he is using Palin as a decoy not because he likes her or for what she is....just because you feed the fish with worms you love them you lure them because you want to eat them.

McCain, is bad for the country, because he is stubborn and wants to control us, he lives in the past and has a lot of war resentments from the past...he believes that we share his ideas of invading other countries and fight with other countries who have different ways and ideas of government. Fighting for peace is like f@%^king for virginity.

I don't know about you guy, but I am not happy, when my neighbor is missing in action for an stupid war, when we invade Iraq. Or when I have to pay $4.300 for a Gallon of Gas,or when I am about to loose my house because the economy sucks...I don't want more of the same

When you put a Mercedes Benz to a Yugo, you don't get a Luxury car, just because of that Nice Logo
McCain you are a YUGO, You Go Out of Ideas, what you gonna do now, recycle Hillery's billboards, bumper stickers and TV commercials, to lure those undecided Losers?

Well, it is unlikely she has been thoroughly vetted, isn't it? But I don't mean that in the usual way. For example, what is the largest crowd she has ever addressed? I guess it will be next week. Maybe she'll perform with God on her side. But what about that TV preacher who requested prayers for a biblical rain on Obama's outdoor acceptance speech? I see news the Republicans are fretting about perhaps delaying the convention because Gustav will be pummeling New Orleans about then. Who would God elect?

Comment to Fate:
Seems like you were trying to make some kind of a racist "dig" at either McCain supporters (Republicans) or evangelicals. Not sure which. What I do know is that if there weren't many people of color in the audience there in Ohio, it may be that 95% of African-Americans have shown they will vote for Obama. It seems that ALL demographics have a tendency to want to support their own. So don't be surprised if some conservatives, women, Alaskans, hockey-players, etc. decide to support McCain because of Palin.

Rich wrote: "When America gets to know her, they will wonder why she is not at the top of the ticket...someday..."

Rich, you realize of course the Alaskan legislature is currently investigating Palin for an unlawful firing. It could lead to her getting impeached, right around the time of the election in November.

I'm wondering what else could go so wrong for McCain ... oh yea, a Katrina like hurricane bashing New Orleans on the first day of the convention.

I think God must have it in for the republicans. Its payback time boys for starting wars, ignoring the meek, and basically being very very bad these past 8 years.

How many of you posting that the Palin selection was a joke and she is not qualified realy know anything about her? Have you ever heard her speak or be interviewed? What do you really know about her experience? It's amazing how quickly the Obamamanics will demonize someone without any knowledge about that person.

oh you mean the same thing that mccain has been doing for the last few months? way to be a total hypocrite.

McCain should have picked Rice. At least she does what you tell her.

In my opinion she is a good choice and I think is time to stop the personal attacks to people.We are talking serious business and I think if a person is well educated and have some government experience it is. look at the Clinton presidential era, he was not the candidate for those looking "experience" in a candidate but look at his legacy, the same happens with Kennedy in the 60's.

In addition I want to say that no one in politics represent the Christian evangelicals in USA. I am a moderate evangelical and I am for Obama / Biden because it is my conviction after analyzing several facts. Pat Robertson, James Dobson or any other religious leader are not a fair representation of the American christians, they are only representing their personal interests groups, not Christ church which is compose of people from all color, race, background. And again, I am a moderate christian who thinks we need to rebuild among other things the way Christianity is show to all people where sometimes it looks like we Christians are supporters of only one party when the opposite is what is really true.

I also respect anyone that choose to vote for McCain and Palin for what they are and not because they belong to certain party that try to rob the identity of His church.

Moises FG
Fort Lauderdale, Florida

I am almost 57 yrs. old and I have always said I would never vote for a female President or vice but I have surprised myself. I am so impressed with McCains vp choice. She is more articulate in her speaking than any of the candidates including McCain, no pun intended because I think they will be a great team that we can trust and not just speak words but actually make the words they speak come to a reality. I will be very proud for you two to run our country. USAUSAUSAUSA

On March 5th, 2008 Alaska's Republican Governor, Sarah Palin, announced to the media that she was 7 months pregnant with her 5th child. She is currently 44.

The controversy arises from two sources: First, Palin does not appear preganant in any recent photographs. The announcement came as quite a shock to people who had worked closely with her, and have been quoted as saying that she did not appear pregnant whatsoever during the prior 7 months. While this is debatable, you can judge for yourself here: http://gov.state.ak.us/photos.php

Second, Palin's daughter Bristol is 16 and attends an Anchorage high school. Students who have attended class with her report that she has been out of school for months, claiming a prolonged case of mono.

Apparently, this rumor has made the rounds in the upper echelon of the Alaska legislature, and is a closely guarded secret.

I just read some ladies comment... (Sharon) ether your really dumb and naive or your a paid spammer.. either or you should not vote this year and instead go to church and pray for a president.. Please I beg of your simple little mind to pray for the president... because if GOD is that powerful he will make things right... But stay home and use faith my child of dumbville, USA

This evangelical is voting for Obama

The number of abortions has gone WAY UP during Republican rule. I want some social policies that deal with the whole set of issues related to unwanted pregnancies. Christians have been manipulated and exploited by the Republican machine over this issue for TOO long. They bait us with ballot-box fantasies that we are voting to overturn Roe v. Wade; meanwhile they throw the REST of our values out with the trash.

For any woman who cares about “women’s issues,” this is a no-brainer, thumbs down, and pure gimmickry. As for traidtional values, once again Repubilcans espouse nothing but hypocrisy: exactly how does one care for a five-month old Down’s syndrome child while on the national campaign trail? With a nanny? If this were a Democrat, the religionists would crucify her, but if the Dems say anything, they’ll be called mysogynists

It was stupid for John McCain to annouce his running mate the day after Obama's speech.

Now there will not be a chance to twist it into something negative now that all the news is on his VP.

This is a nightmare for the spin meisters.
People will end up making up their own minds about his speech which will be a disaster for the Republicans.

Does anyone pay attention to the last name of democratic candidates :
"Obama Biden" is very close to:
"Osama bin Ladin"
if change "b" to "s" and drop few words.

I believe it means it is a first for the republicans......

ebrobston:
"The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman"

Um, does Geraldine Ferraro ring any bells?

Anybody that McCain picked would have been better than Obama and Biden. If we are to analyze desperate moves then then I would say the same about Obama's choice. For what he has to bring to the table he should be able to choose several VPs to help him in office. Left wings all fly the same way...... someone comes in and talks a big game and "wooos" John Q public. Said person is basically the second coming to a heard of atheists. Let's forget about the issues........ I'll promise you a better life, the media won't bad mouth me unless I have "sex" with a person half my age, I'll spend your money and you won't even know. I'll also promise that I'll motivate you when I'm on TV. When It's all done you'll think I did my job, you'll feel good, but the financial and international standing of our country will be rotted to the core. Vote Chris M - [D] - from any state you think I'm from.

The GOP found just another BUSH for the Whitehouse.

Palin sounds like the "all-American girl" that Hillary tried to be. She'll appeal to millions of voters who think that bibles, babies, and bullets are what America is all about.

McCain's handlers know that image is everything and governance the sideshow.

I am a woman and I am Catholic and my family and my church raised me to be more than a one-trick pony. It is a huge mistake for McCain or anyone else to think that a female Catholic would be drawn to Palin just because she has ovaries, didn't abort a Down's child and is stridently pro-life. I'm pro-life also -- and right now I'm far more concerned about the living than the unborn. I'm tired of hearing that the GOP loves family, God and country more than the opposition. The GOP is morally bankrupt; where is the morality in an unjust war or in a country that will condone torture or endless imprisonment? Where are love of country and family to be found in a negative response to a shattered economy? What about the families still reeling from Katrina? What about the 47+ millions of Americans without adequate healthcare? (Where is God or patriotism in THAT statistic?) Where is the patriotism or a strong national defense to be found in jobs sent out of the country or soldiers without a generous GI Bill or an underfunded educational system -- or a government that denies the truths of science and Global Warming? I've always thought McCain was clueless; now I see he is even worse: he is RECKLESS. The choice of Palin -- a person who lacks any significant experience in government -- is shocking. McCain has insulted every American, whether Republican, Democratic, or Independent. In my opinion, to vote McCain would be dereliction of duty as an American. God Bless Obama and Biden and may they prevail so that we can turn this country around and take it back for the average American.

Re:Governors as executives??
Is the public so gullible to believe that being governor for two years gives you executive experience?
A real executive has to make a profit and satify shareholders and employees.What governor meets these qualifications?

Hey you guys and gals out there! It's the FIRST time the Republicans have had a woman on the ticket for Prs or VP! Not the very first time, duh?!!!

There must be some kinda way outa here,
said the Joker to the Theif.
There's too much confusion,
I can't get no relief...

Unreal. This has to be the most interesting campaign ever. And talk about Obama's inability to make changes, look what he has just accomplished... He has forced the GOP into a knee jerk, shallow, transparently defensive and fateful move that will secure his election.

Has she even worked in Washington? She has less experience than Obama...Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb...

Since when do people kill babies in the bedroom?
Pro lifers donot tell you what to do in the bedroom. Pro lifers just want to let the third person who is created in the bedroom....live..!

Should anything happen to John McCain during his term, there is no one better to hammer out the cold war with Medvedev and Putin or make Iran shut up and set down than Sarah? I'll put the safety of my family in the hands of Biden any day.

I think it is incredible that people call themselves Catholic or Christian and say they are going to vote for Obama and Biden.

We have all heard of RINOs (Repubilican In Name Only).

Well how about COSM0s (Catholics/Christians on Sunday Morning Only.

You can't be both a supporter of abortion and a Christian at the same time (not my opinion..read the Bible).

I moved out of Alaska in June, 2006; Palin, is the worst choice possible, my wife and I thought it was a joke at first. My thoughts:
She stops the 'Bridge to Nowhere' (I've been to Ketchikan, AK and it isn't) because its pork barrel, but wants to move the state capital to her home town.
And, she is surrounded by investigations from trying to get her former brother-in-law fired.
These are just two examples of her being another Bush (one heart beat away.)
I hope all these so called American leaders, who are promoting her, are able to look themselves in the mirror in the morning after flushing their credibility down the toilet.

Wow! Old Dude, you can't be that old and have that opinion. Like it or not our country was founded by Christian men, who let their faith strongly influence the way our country was set up. I do not think that a country that turns it's back on its history and origin is very intelligent. You may not like Christians and that is your right, but don’t think we are the “doom of the country”, we may just be it’s saving grace. Oh yeah, on a side note if you think that it is "old fashioned" to believe that every life has value, then you should thank God that your mother did not have your opinion when she thought about giving life to you.

Sarah Palin info from wiki:

In 2006, Palin, running on a clean-government campaign, executed an upset victory over then-Gov. Murkowski in the Republican gubernatorial primary. Despite the lack of support from party leaders and being outspent by her Democratic opponent, she went on to win the general election in November 2006, defeating former Governor Tony Knowles. Palin said in 2006 that education, public safety, and transportation would be three cornerstones of her administration.

When elected, Palin became the first woman to be Alaska's governor, and the youngest governor in Alaskan history at 42 years of age upon taking office. Palin was also the first Alaskan governor born after Alaska achieved U.S. statehood. She was also the first Alaskan governor not to be inaugurated in Juneau, instead choosing to hold her inauguration ceremony in Fairbanks. She took office on December 4, 2006.

Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans. After federal funding for the Gravina Island Bridge project that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending was lost, Palin decided against filling the over $200 million gap with state money. "Alaska needs to be self-sufficient, she says, instead of relying heavily on 'federal dollars,' as the state does today."

She has challenged the state's Republican leaders, helping to launch a campaign by Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell to unseat U.S. Congressman Don Young and publicly challenging Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings.

I'm throwing a little tidbit from Wikipedia and the link to Sarah Palin - check her out and let me know your thoughts... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin)

"Energy policies
Palin has strongly promoted oil resource development in Alaska, but also helped pass a tax increase on oil company profits.[16][18] Palin has announced plans to create a new sub-cabinet group of advisors, to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions within Alaska.[21]

Shortly after taking office, Palin rescinded thirty-five appointments made by Murkowski in the last hours of his administration, including the appointment by Murkowski of his former chief of staff James "Jim" Clark to the Alaska Natural Gas Development Authority.[22][23] Clark later pled guilty to conspiring with a defunct oil-field-services company to channel money into Frank Murkowski's re-election campaign.[24]

In March 2007, Palin presented the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (AGIA) as the new legal vehicle for building a natural gas pipeline from the state's North Slope. [25] This nixed a deal by the previous governor to grant the contract to a coalition including BP (her husband's seasonal employer). Only one legislator, Representative Ralph Samuels, voted against the measure,[26] and in June Palin signed it into law.[27][28] On January 5, 2008, Palin announced that a Canadian company, TransCanada Corp., was the sole AGIA-compliant applicant.[29][30] In August of 2008 Palin signed a bill into law giving the state of Alaska authority to award TransCanada Pipelines a license to build and operate the $26-billion-dollar pipeline to ship natural gas from the North Slope to the Lower 48, through Canada.[31]

In response to high oil and gas prices, and in response to the resulting state government budget surplus, Palin proposed giving Alaskans $100-a-month energy debit cards. She also proposed providing grants to electrical utilities so that they would reduce customers' rates.[32] She subsequently dropped the debit card proposal, and in its place she proposed to send Alaskans $1,200 directly and eliminate the gas tax.[33][34]"

As a devout Christian, I would never think to vote for McCain. I simply cannot understand why we, as Christians, have disregarded the wealth of our faiths and fallen into line behind the falsehoods of petty politics. A Republican President, with a Republican Congress put forth little, to no effort, when solving the abortion issue. What makes us believe that McCain will be any different?

Obama convinced me when, at his Convention speech, he confronted the issue abortion in the most sensible, intelligent language we can ever hope to hear. Unfortunately, McCain's outright pandering to us with "pro-life" taglines is a clue that his heart is not in solving this crisis - only tallying his votes.

> Does anyone pay attention to the last names of the Democratic candidates:
> "Obama Biden" is very close to:
> "Osama bin Laden"
> if we drop few words and change letter "b" to "s"?

> That is just the fact

Are you kidding me? Since when did America become so fearful that we have to start playing games like this? Hell, if you want to play games, you can say things like McCain Palesin comparison to Obama/Biden. See what I did? I just added an S. How clever of me. You are retarded. Now that's a fact.

THE TRUE THREAT TO THIS NATION IS NOT FROM ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST ABROAD, BUT FROM CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS HERE AT HOME.

I LITERALLY BREAK OUT IN A COLD SWEAT WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW EVIL YOU PEOPLE TRULY ARE.

txtransplant,
there were a lot of people of every color at Obama's events, including whites. Only whites at McCain's events. Gotta wonder.

Remember Geraldine Ferraro? There is a bright woman! Palin? Who's she? And do we want to know? Sounds like maybe not. I accepted Christ as my personal Savior 37 years ago - and wouldn't touch McCain-Palin with a ten-foot pole! And I have lots of guns, too. Keep in mind we're not talking about rabbit hunting here, but running the Western World! When I became a Christian I didn't become stupid, thank-you!

A far right conservative is no way of attracting independent voters. Thank you John McCain. You just handed Obama the election.

VOTE YOUR HOPES, NOT YOUR FEARS!

"The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman"

lol, I thought this was the Post, not Fox News......

You have got to be kidding me. Millions of people losing their homes, their jobs, their healthcare, their retirement, security and a proper education for their children. And pro life and guns are the big christian issues? What about quality of life? Jumping off a building looks a lot more attractive than enduring four more years of this hell on earth. It's like being eaten alive by vultures (smug, self-righteous, hippocritical, cheating, biggoted so-called Christians ... who can't event bring themselves to be honest and call a spade a spade.) Children don't deserve to be brought into a canibalistic "society" where the leaders eat their own.

I am glad she will support our troops in Iraq. We need someone to define support as standing on foreign soil under an absolute false evidence and watching as "our boys" die. Nothing makes me feels more proud to be an American than seeing working people dumped on by Neo Cons. Jesus would be so proud of how the documents were misleading that led his flock to kill the other flock.
I guess if we close our eyes and try real hard maybe we can vote ourselfs back to the 1950's. Oh the memories when "gay" meant you were just happy and those people who lived in that part of the town did not want so many things. It will fell nice in my cardboard box that my wife and i live in knowing Bob and Steve are not recognized by the state

Wake Up (in a cold sweat)-

Better book your one-way ticket to Saudi before November...

Some may wonder who is going to watch over V.P. nominee Palin's young baby while she is on the campaign trail. At only 37 I ask who is going to watch over Obama?

Great choice!

I wouldn't have voted for McCain unless he had chosen "one of us" as his VP.

What a gal.

America is going to love her!

PS- My wife was a Hillary voter who just decided to vote for McCain cause she's still mad at how the Obamamaniacs short-shrifted Hillary.

Gotta love it!

John McCain might be crazy.....like a fox :-)

Umm, why does Google have this article linked in as their "top story"?

"Brilliant - Not"- Edison
"Evolutionary choice (for a republican) - now onto extinction" - Darwin
"It a relatively absurd choice - it is impossible for any person to think slower than a republican maverick" - Einstein
"Opposites in this case does not attract" -Newton
"Have Faith (that's the only thing you can do in this case anyway)" - Jesus
"The sun rotates around evangelicals, hence the choice" Copernicus

May want to fix this line
"The Democrats have the first presidential ticket to include an African American. The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman."

I believe the Democrats had the first presidential ticket to include a woman. Hard to believe that was 20 years ago

McCain has such a long track record of disrespecting women. This pick is one more example of that. Think about it and you'll get it if you're a woman.

As an Independent, I'll admit that occasionally there was a slight wobble in my orbit towards Obama, but I was always quickly and proportionately dis-attracted by his coy equivocations describing human life. Many Independents lean McCain's direction already and will welcome Palin.

Obama's advantage is his survival inside the brutal crucible of running an election for the President of the United States -- no small task -- this process reveals managerial skills and character moreso than creating it though.

Still, Palin has come up through the ranks with distinction and her good stewardship of each office resulted in immediate consideration for the next wrung up the ladder. She is a proven, temperate, skilled administrator with a demonstrable track record of zero tolerance for liars and cheats.

I call it a "live" heat right now, with a slight edge to Obama. Dangerously for Obama, Palin has little expectation to "debate" with Biden. Anything she says or does that's even in the ball park will result in an "inside the park" homer!

John Mc Cain you are a desparate worn out old man that is using this soccer Mom. You could have at least took Liberman who helped you out when you did not know the differece on two occasions between the "Shihites and Soonies" Obama and Biden are going to kick your A___! You need it!

We need issurs to decide the election. not gender.The feelings in the country has not changed since 2006 election. If anything they have gotten stronger for a case for change, Obama and Biden will win by a landslide I believe.

Too late, it doesn't matter any more. The Republicans have become know for their big lies, catering to the wealthy, and even the evangelist have become disillusioned. People aren't buying their negative campaigns of hate and fascist views. Sorry, but the sheep are leaving the building. They don't want McSame in the white house; he's too set in his unyielding ways and has a terrible temper. At least Bush didn't have the temper. Yeah, like we would want to have him with his finger on the button. Can you say "Armageddon". McCain is running 330% more negative campaign adds than Obama and than attacking Obama about negative adds. Servicemen and women are giving to Obama in an 8:5 margin over McCain, yet McCain rebuts that more General Officers (and the wealthy) support him. If McCain didn't have the vote of those Americans that would never vote for a Black man or women, no matter what; then Obama would have a 10-15% lead. I would disgusted with myself if I voted for McCain who is the bigot's choice. Yes, there is a God, remember for who and what your voting for; hope or greed and lies.

I am Catholic, and, faithful to the tenants of my faith, pro-Life. (is there such a thing as a pro-abortion Catholic? That is to say there is a square circle, or an anti-American American)

I believe protecting the right to life is vital, and I could never vote for a pro-abortion candidate; that would make me an accomplice of the worst holocaust in history: more than 40 million Americans dead because of abortion.

If life cannot be protected...why do any other issues matter? dead people do not need a good economy, nor a good environment, nor freedom.

As for me and my household we choose Life.

Excellent choice McCain! Count on my vote!

You are all idiots.

John McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin is a SOLID one for REAL Conservatives, and announcing the pick today is a strategic masterpiece, knocking out Barack Obama/Joe Biden’s after convention euphoria!.

Did I mention that I loved EVERYTHING she said after being introduced by John McCain?

EVERYTHING!! OsiSpeaks[dot]com

We need issues to decide the election. not gender.The feelings in the country has not changed since 2006 election. If anything they have gotten stronger for a case for change, Obama and Biden will win by a landslide I believe.

"Like it or not our country was founded by Christian men, who let their faith strongly influence the way our country was set up."

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Most founding fathers were deists. They believed in divinity and "Providence" but are cosmically distant from what you tounge-speaking Southern nutjobs are today. If you consider the Puritans, who ruled New England with an iron fist, proclaimed and killed innocents as witches, and fell out of favor with the general populace after 100 years the true founders of our nation, then I guess you are right.

Will you on the left ever stop being hateful? I sure hope so. I'm very tired of your attitude. I have a strong impression you don't even know Sarah Palin yet, but you're already trotting out hateful, disrespectful comments. I also can't BELIEVE anyone's attacking Ms. Palin's inexperience for the vice presidency and touting Barack Obama as qualified for president in the same breath! Nevermind vice presidential debates (in which Ms. Palin should clobber old Smokin' Joe Biden handily, by the way); you all need to worry about how your man Obama will do against John McCain. I've had my differences with Sen. McCain, but these two put together our our last best hope to REALLY turn Washington around, to make government SMALLER, to encourage more Americans to take responsibility for them themselves, to stop holding out their hand and put those hands to work on solving their own problems and creating value in a free economy. Watch out Dems, this ticket has instantly fired up the Republican party, and I'm afraid there's no stopping us! This is one hell of a ticket. And the cool thing is, if you guys would grow up after you lose and realize we ARE all Americans, we really could all come together under McCain-Palin and lighten up and have some fun while also solving our problems collectively and improving the world... Without that tired retread Democrat dogma Obama and Biden plan on trotting around the track one more time. I'm a happy conservative, my friends!

Hey! My Mother would fight a grizzly for her family. Since this lady is a mother she may just have what it takes to be a Mother to our Country. You have heard the saying about a woman scorned, I don't think we will have any problem with Russia,Iran, Iraq or China if they threaten us they can talk to her. she knows what it means to protect and serve she even knows how to use a gun. I think she will protect America as her family.

??? OMFG! ???

Are you saying that the republican evangelicals are so stupid that simply by waving soccer-mommy Palin in front of their eyes is going to make tham forget all about McCain's adultery?

Purraize Juheezus!!!

It is almost amusing to see in the same paragraph that Palin in pro life and that she is a gun enthusiast.

She is also prolife and supports this bloody war.

Sad....

I really just wish this.. the people that do go into that booth this year and vote for Mccain get tagged on the ear like the sheep they are. Then we will know who to corral every election... or just simply ask themselves this who would jesus vote for
.... you people are a joke and took something beautiful and made it into a cult

Obama, made a major political mistake on not getting Hillary and uniting the whole democratic party. Period!

McCain, helped his campaign by picking another maverick and female who can stand up to anyone. A new inspiring pick the republicans need. She has 80 percent approval in Alaska.

Obama is a smart inspiring speaker, but Palin's actions speak louder than political words. She has fought corruption in both parties in Alaska. When she speaks she says it like it is, unlike polished career politicians. Some people can talk the talk, but Palin can walk the walk.

Now the race is exciting! history will be made period with either Obama or McCain!

"She's a trophy Veep."

Well, put Sarah! You hit it dead-on! And I feel bad for her for being so ill-used by her party.

VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN IN 08

COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF.

VALUE VOTERS PLEASE DO THIS NATION A FAVOR AND STAY HOME THIS NOVEMBER.

GoneFishinMIA:

You have got to be kidding me. Millions of people losing their homes, their jobs, their healthcare, their retirement, security and a proper education for their children. And pro life and guns are the big christian issues? What about quality of life? Jumping off a building looks a lot more attractive than enduring four more years of this hell on earth. It's like being eaten alive by vultures (smug, self-righteous, hippocritical, cheating, biggoted so-called Christians ... who can't event bring themselves to be honest and call a spade a spade.) Children don't deserve to be brought into a canibalistic "society" where the leaders eat their own.

I am an evangelical pro-life Christian who is still laughing her born-again butt off about this nomination!

A ditsy beauty queen runner up, hockey mom, with a disabled child who will need soooo much extra support from BOTH parents (I should know, I have a son with a disability) who has a degree in journalism and who is under investigation herself????

Thanks John. You've made my decision to vote for Obama so much easier, now!

PS. Did you notice John looking at her legs during her speech? I don't think we'll have to have Hillary take care of her...Cindy might just step up to the task!

I don't get how you can sit around and refuse to vote for Obama because he's pro-choice while you are ok with sending out millions of sons and daughters to their deaths in a meaningless war

seriously... why do you people feel the need to push all your religious agenda on the rest of the country? Why do you care if someone makes a choice whether they can take care of a child or not? Do you want to pay for it? You want another neglected child in the world that may grow up to become a criminal? Because that's what happens. LET PEOPLE MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS AND LET -YOUR- GOD JUDGE THEM WHEN IT'S THEIR TIME.

Let's face it. Barack Obama is a little stupid. He rejected Hillary for an old white guy with hair plugs that has been in Washington 36 years. Now, John McCain turns out to be the candidate of women.
McCain's choice means that if he is too old or tired to run in 2012, it will set up a run between Palin and H. Clinton. If they won their primaries, it would gaurantee a woman president in 2012.
I am voting Republican for the first time in my life!

tom wrote: "Does anyone pay attention to the last names of the Democratic candidates:
"Obama Biden" is very close to:
"Osama bin Laden"
if we drop few words and change letter "b" to "s"?
That is just the fact"

Lemme guess. You are a republican George W. Bush supporter who thinks Iraq attacked us on 911, right?

Well, there he goes again. He just does not want to be President..

> Some may wonder who is going to watch over V.P. nominee Palin's young baby while she is on the campaign trail. At only 37 I ask who is going to watch over Obama?

Mike, sorry but your facts are wrong. Obama is 47, not 37 as you claim. He would certainly not be youngest president we've had, and certainly has far better judgment than the combined experience of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, McCain, Wolfowitz and Rice.

I am amused at those that challenge Palin's credentials to be VP and argue to vote for Obama. Was Obama's 2 years in the Senate experience enough to be President? Any Obama supporters who argue she lacks experience highlight their own candidates weakness.

Sarah Palin is a sweet choice. Not only will she excite the Republican base, but as a governor she is the only one, on either ticket, with executive and economic and general domestic experience. She is also good on energy issues. She exposed the corruption of Alaska's former Republican governor and others in her own party who were in the tank with the oil companies, but independently she still knows drilling in ANWAR would be wonderful for the US and no real environmental issue for the frozen tundra. She is such an awesome choice. How come I never thought of her?

Dont let Oboma slip away as easy as that

I'm learning something from the comments of liberals and conservatives. Conservatives try to ague that liberal ideas are wrong. Liberals are haters, they attack anyone who has different point of view than they do. Liberals shout down any opposing view point and try to silence debate. Is this what we Democrats have become? I pray that we realize how destructive this has become to the future our party and our country.

tom:
"Does anyone pay attention to the last name of democratic candidates :
"Obama Biden" is very close to:
"Osama bin Ladin"
if change "b" to "s" and drop few words.

Yeah, Tom.... I see it.
Do me a favor squint your eyes, open your mouth, insert barrel and pull the trigger. What does Obama Biden say then???

The downfall of this country isn't going to come from any political figure involved with it. It will be because if the idiocy of its populace, and judging from these comments we're circling the drain right now.

Wow! What sheep.

You hard core right wingers do understand that the Republican party is not a political party its an economic party...right?

Those in power in the Republican party don't give a damn about 'the working class'. Its all about the consolidation of power to the most wealthy.

The working class used to be afraid of commies and blacks so the Republicans used that to get you to vote for them. Now its terrorist and gays and the use of fear still works to get people to vote against their own economic interest.

Holy Crap! Put 2 and 2 together! Its about money and power not freedom and family values.

The fact that we are discussing this choice as intensely as we are is a good thing for the McCain Camp. This choice has certain taken Obama's acceptance speech off the radar screen. It will be forgotten before tomorrow.
Before 2004 Obama was a nobody. How the democrats make the same argument that they have supported for months. I think also that our seniors deserve some respect. The talk about a "heartbeat away" is extremely tasteless. It differs not from the comment from Hillary Clinton on the Robert Kennedy assassination that Obama himself condemned.

#1 There is no God.

#2 There was a Jesus, and he was a liberal.

In 2008, the United States of America couldn't be more divided. More than ever there are racial, economic, class, gender, religious, and political divides. What frightens me more than Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin is that because special interest groups and big businesses are so deep in the pockets of most every politician, none of us and I do mean none of us have any real idea of where these candidates are going to lead us. One side says that Obama will weaken the military and our strength abroad. The other side says McCain will continue the recklessness that W has exhibited over the past 8 years. I'm not a democrat or a republican. I'm an American whose primary concern is who cares about America, not the political dancing and pandering that has become America. I'm speaking of America the good, the bad, and the ugly. The Hurricane Katrina America. The Ohio/California/Florida/Arizona losing their homes America. The getting their jobs outsourced abroad America. The far behind in education America. The overly and most often than not inappropriately used freedom of speech and expression America. The disenfranchised and all out ignored America. Worse than any global warming catastrophe or natural disaster is how quickly America has forgotten what it is to be America. I'd like to know how party loyalty is going to fix those things. Three WHITE guys plot to kill Obama which the media conveniently speaks very little about and these men are never once called terrorists, yet their plot to kill Obama wasn't any different than what terrorist around the world do. They seek out people they hate for whatever reason and murder them. How American is that? Or does our citizenship make allowances for such acts? How much patriotism does one have to have to agree that the very planning of such a thing was terrorist in its most visceral form? This election is going to rear and expose the underbelly of a lot of issues and institutions that this country of ours was founded on. Classism, Sexism, Racism and all in the name of Patriotism. How many of us make decisions on a daily basis only to regret them the next day? How many of us have shady friends and family members who could embarrass us publicly? What human being fights without at least considering conquest on some level? Can we truly say that America is that much different from the socialist, communist, and dictator regimes around the world? I find it amazing how our military and those who support war are considered the only patriots in America. War in its most basic form is the manifested violence of a disagreement. A disagreement is when two sides refuse to compromise. Compromise is when two parties want something opposite of one another but work to make sure everybody ends up happy. Where's the fallout that we are ending up in so many wars around the globe? Could we possible, our governemnt specifically, be unwilling to compromise? If you and I disagree, does that mean that I should kick in your door and take up residence until you agree with me? If you threaten to kick my door in, should I not take evasive action to protect my family? These aren't partisan arguements. These are human needs. And above all human lives. I don't care how old McCain is or how young Obama is. My question is how can either of them restore America? And please spare me the policy talk, neither of these guys have done all that much to benefit most of us on this blog. I love America. I have the utmost respect for the sacrifices the military and their families make in the cause of freedom. But millions of people are losing or have lost their homes. Millions are losing their jobs. Many can't afford healthcare or prescription medicine because their retirement and social security benefits are little to nothing. Babies are being aborted at an alarming rate, but you better believe both democrats and republicans are having abortions. You better believe both democrats and republicans are praticing same sex marriages. You better believe that both democrats and republicans are claiming holier than thou status in an effort to connect with America. I know republican atheists just like I know devout christian democrats. When politicians decide on policies, everybody is affected. Political party affiliation doesn't give you immunity. I'm interested in the future my children deserve and their children's children. That's not a party mantra. That's human decency. I want to feel safe from violence and disparate living conditions. That's not republican or democrat. A vote or law against something doesn't prevent the practice of that thing, it just institutes punishment. But neither of these groups, I couldn't care how eloquent they speak or how much experience they have or lack, if America doesn't get itself together soon, it will fall like every other perfect empire before it...Rome, Greece, Babylonia, Egypt, Persia, Great Britain and all the rest. So someone please, aside from the partisan rhetoric and self righteous jibber jabber, please tell me when will America stand up and declare that above all things, we need to be united. And for some of you pure white bread bible belt types, the bible says How can two walk together except they be agreed. A house divided against itself will fall. And for you liberal let it all hang out types...just because you can doesn't mean you should.

An American for America

Would we treat this beautiful woman with less respect than we treated the beautiful black american man who would be the first African American President?
I am of the generation where we had no TV, only the radio, newspapers and news reels at the movies for information. The idea of a black man running for president or a woman for vice president sometime in the future would never have entered our minds. But then neither would the thought of having a man walk on the moon. Had they any experience in moon walking?
Wake up America and stop the deterioration of the family and stop the killing of unborn babies. Put God back in the schools and prayers.Teach the children love and respect for all.
So there were few black faces in the audience. They were all in Denver.

James H.:
Pro-life is such a joke. These people are only care about life when it is in fertilized egg form. If that child grows up in poverty, they do nothing. When that child has the potential to go to college, they don't care. And when they realize there hasn't been a good ole' Middle Eastern war in a while, they will draft the same fetus they fought so hard to save 20 years earlier and send it off to die.

To James H:
Wow. Thanks for your comment. This just shows me how uneducated you are. You do not impress me. Thanks for categorizing an entire group of people into one over-reaching group. Thanks.

I'll have you know. I am 24 years old. I come from a family of 9. Out of the 7 children, 5 are adopted from 3 seperate families. I was adopted at the age of 4 along with my younger twin brother and sister who were a year old. A year later, my parents adopted a boy with physical handicaps. Another year later, they adopted a girl with severe mental handicaps (as a result of her mother not wanting her and throwing her out of a third story building at the age of 6 months). All of us could have been aborted.

But we were not. I have graduated from university with two degrees. One in psychology and one in communications. I work for the largest outsourcing HR company in Canada as an account executive. I volunteer twice a week working with children with learning disabilities and I will be going to Africa in 6 months to work there for a year teaching english and working on community development.

I have an extremely loving family. All my siblings who were adopted (excluding my sister who has a severe mental handicap) have all gone to university or in the process. We live all across the country, either married, some with kids, all with jobs and or a career.

I am not bragging here. I just want to illustrate a point to you that we were not aborted, yet our lives have turned into something that cannot be explained. I am utterly thankful that my life has turned out the way it has, through all the hardship and difficulties. Through all of the things I've gone through. I am not bitter, but I consider myself lucky. I want to touch the lives of others because of the people who touched my life. If I was aborted (which I know was being considered since I was concieved due to the result of an affair), than I would not be here, doing what I am doing and with an even brighter future ahead of me.

You offend me with your comment, but I understand you have not been in my shoes and for that, I don't blame you. Maybe I am pro-life, I don't care about labels. But one thing is for sure, if I wasn't here, or if my siblings wern't here as a result of abortion, than we couldn't be helping other people like we are doing today.

Palin seems like a good choice, only time will tell for sure. Either way I'm for McCain. It's clear where he stands on the issues and I agree with him on the ones most important to me.

Obama is just a puppet with who know how many people pulling the strings. The reason we don't know what he believes is simply because he doesn't know himself. A vote for Obama is a vote for whom ever the "man behind the curtain" is.

After reading most of these posts it's very scary to realize that all these people posting have the right to vote.

Mike: Obama is 47, not 37... he's older than Kennedy or Clinton when they took the oath.

my question is, who's going to be changing John's Depends?

How can McCain be pro-life, yet support the war? That is the greatest contradiction ever. You can't have it both ways. You're either for life, or you're against it.

Republican platform:

Q: When do human rights begin?
A: At conception

Q: When do they end?
A: At time of enlistment

The fact that Bush was elected for a second term made me lose all faith in this country. The fact that people are applauding the decision of Palin and all it's transparency only reaffirms it. When you can't afford to pay your gas bill, and your kids are crying because you can't afford college..when you can't afford to put gas in your car, and wonder why we have been in Iraq for 15yrs. You can say "well at least there are no more abortions and I can carry my gun!!"". Might be hard to afford bullets. Who would want to bring a child into this mess anyways?

Everyone has a porpoise.. in this case McCain wants to lose bad.

To Jim in Virginia:
TALK ABOUT NEGATIVE ADDS,do you have anything positive to say yourself?

I'm not sure why conservative, religious voters are so quick to call this move by McCain "brillant". Apparently simply because she is pro-choice. Does she truly bring anything else to the table? Is this the only issue on which we as Christians base our vote? Are we to be satisfied with this bone?

As a VP, she must be ready to step up immediately. This so much smacks of the Harriet Meyers' nomination. Can you honestly believe she is the best qualified? On what basis?

Has the party line achieved the status of encylical canon? Does evangelical identity mandate blind adherance to party dogma?

I just love the anti-evangelical comments. YOU'RE the ONE bringing up religion because you're so frightened of something you’ve always ran away from. We have a woman who has a large family and you fault her for this? You Dem's are acting so old school "keep them in the house and barefoot"? The majority of American's are tired of the attack on family values. Try showing some respect for the future VP Sarah Palin. I'm sure your grandparents would have boxed your ears if they read your comments.

Stop trying to always be hypocritical....it gets old really fast. PS. Hey hippies....it time to grow up already!

Dear Dodo:

They were not in Denver for the VP announcement today, they were in Ohio, where there's a decent number of black people, none of whom support McSame

Obama, made a major political mistake on not getting Hillary and uniting the whole democratic party. Period!

McCain, helped his campaign by picking another maverick and female who can stand up to anyone. A new inspiring pick the republicans need. She has 80 percent approval in Alaska.

Obama is a smart inspiring speaker, but Palin's actions speak louder than political words. She has fought corruption in both parties in Alaska. When she speaks she says it like it is, unlike polished career politicians. Some people can talk the talk, but Palin can walk the walk.

Now the race is exciting! history will be made period with either Obama or McCain!

Why not Cindy? She's an 'Executive".

Republicans need to change their name to the "Christian Extremists Party". This new CEP is totally inept at running a fiscally responsible government. McCain chose someone with no experience only 4 days after telling his supporters that Obama is inexperienced. Seems hypocritical.

l-DOPA is for Parkinsonism, not for Alzhiemer's

I just love the anti-evangelical comments. YOU'RE the ONE bringing up religion because you're so frightened of something you’ve always ran away from. We have a woman who has a large family and you fault her for this? You Dem's are acting so old school "keep them in the house and barefoot"? The majority of American's are tired of the attack on family values. Try showing some respect for the future VP Sarah Palin. I'm sure your grandparents would have boxed your ears if they read your comments.

Stop trying to always be hypocritical....it gets old really fast. PS. Hey hippies....it time to grow up already!

I also noticed that the McCain background was mostly republican white folk. Then I remembered that the democrats are the party of welfare and redistribution of the wealth.I was surprised that Obama was not surrounded on Thursday night by Robin Hood figures holding carpetbags of food stamps in english and spanish.
Mc Cain - Palin will close the gap while the smart Americans figure out that Obama is the socialist in sheep clothing.
Jerry

Republicans need to change their name to the "Christian Extremists Party". This new CEP is totally inept at running a fiscally responsible government. McCain chose someone with no experience only 4 days after telling his supporters that Obama is inexperienced. Seems hypocritical.

PRO LIFERS WHO SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY AND WAR WITHOUT END.

HYPOCRITES.

YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO LIFE AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT BORN.

"I watched the annuoncement by McCain as he introduced Palin. I was focused on the background, the people in the audience. All white faces every one of them. Obama had 80,000 faced of all colors in a stadium. "

I guess McCain must have reserved back seats for those face-covered women (a lesson learned from Obama). LOL

I'm angered, and surprised at this pick for VP. I've long respected McCain. That respect has turned to outrage. How dare you John McCain! You're putting our country at risk at such a crucial time. What arrogance! You have the right to bet the farm as long as it's your farm. This is our country you're gambling with - your prison camp stint won't cover this debt buddy boy. You've lost my vote.

There is a Youtube video of Palin speaking about the ethics investigation against her.

She was also asked in June if she would accept a VP nomination if asked. She said (in her own words) that she did'nt think so and she did not know what the Vice President of America does. THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR ON THE JOB TRAINING!!!

It just keeps getting better and better for the Dems. Last night, we saw a tremendous speech that will go down as one of the best acceptance speeches in our history. The party is unifying. And McCain seems to want to help the dems through all this. What a Great Day!

However, we mustn't forget that there is a lot of cleaning up to do in Jan. The despicable lying, corrupt, criminal administration of the past 8 yrs has done severe damage to this country and this world. We must stay focused and united if are to restore prominence to America.

What a great day! Enjoy this everybody, but stay focused because a wounded dog is dangerous

Young dude,

Our country was NOT founded by Christian men, but by "rationalists" (Thomas Paine), atheists (Benjamin Franklin, John Adams) and Unitarians (John Quincy Adams, Thomas Jefferson).

This woman advocates the teaching of "creationism" in public schools. (Read: vouchers). Think about that one, folks.

mccain chose her not because she is a leader but because she will get him votes in areas he cant. can you picture this woman sitting down at a table with putin?
as an army officer, catholic, and proud virginian...obama's got my vote..

I can't believe some of the things being posted here about Palin! I mean here is a lady of high moral character and political experience (especially for her young and energetic age) that is not being given any credit because you feel her appointment is only an attempt to capture the evangelical and Hillary vote!!!!

Well run her into the ground if you like but at least she is willing to go into the ground in her own backyard to make America less dependant on foreign oil. And I gaurantee you she has a lot more experience in Alaska at what the environmental impact, if any, would be than the folks in Washington!

When you go to the polls in November don't just vote your party or an ideaology! Weed through the propaganda because that is being thrown at both candidates especially the DEM (Snopes can help there). Vote for substance, experience, character, and a presidential and VP team with a CLEAR plan at how they will implement what they are serving up to you!

That type of vote will make America stronger.

To Rick DeLano and his wife:
How did the Obamamaniacs short-shrift Hillary? Because they voted for Obama??? I think rather than these Hillary people being offended that Obama voters somehow stole their election away, I think all Americans should instead be offended that it was ASSUMED without our consent that Hillary should be the next president.

As a woman, of course I want to see women treated well in society. But as an American, I want to CHOOSE who I get to vote for.

The fact is plain and simple: More people chose Obama. Even with Rush Limbaugh interfering and having his people got "help" Hillary's side, she still failed to pull it off. And SHE herself has accepted this and joined Obama.

I'd like to ask all the still-disgruntled Hillary supporters: who would you rather see added to the Supreme Court in the next few years-- McCain/Palin's undoubtedly pro-life pick designed to overturn your precious Roe v. Wade? Or someone of Obama's pick, who I BET $5 will be Hillary Clinton herself???

Think about it.

Is this election merely about Pro-Life? Good lord, we have so many more issues--economic, energy, environment, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, education, to name a few. Whooee, Palin is Pro-Life--big deal! What are her positions on issues of substance that affect every American and not just the pregnant ones?? If you simply vote for a candidate based on their position on Abortion you are a simpleton and a moron.

Voters have a right to be wary of politicians who wear their extreme religion on their sleeve. George Bush believed that Jesus had personally wanted him to become President, and look where that got us: entrenched in Iraq. Divine Rule has been an outdated concept since the days of Charles II. Religion should be separated from executive rule just like Washington and Jefferson wanted it, you know, those "great Christian men who founded out nation."

Forget that so quickly?

Geraldine Ferraro is racist.

"Posted on August 29, 2008 15:40

tom:
Does anyone pay attention to the last names
of the Democratic candidates:
"Obama Biden" is very close to:
"Osama bin Laden"
if we drop few words and change letter "b"
to "s"?

That is just the fact

August 29, 2008 3:40 PM"

What an intelligent fact tom. Thank you so much for your insight. It's comments like these that further alienate those who understand politics from those who don't, and don't care. The ignorance and lack of participation on the part of a large percentage of the American people has had a serious role in decline of recent years. Start doing some real research on your own. If we continue to be entertained by the laughable drama put on by current politicians no progress will be made. It is time for the American people to re-establish their vigilance. We need to apply the pressure to achieve results. I comment on tom's post because statement's like these further the idea that this is all a joke. Its our future, our country's future and the future of our children we are dealing with.

So as November approaches, please forget "facts" like tom's and make your decision on what is best for our communities and our nation. Go and do your own research, do NOT listen to those talking heads or tom for that matter.

To our right wing Republican friends - this country was built on searation of Church and State - the piligrims were running away from the State English religon and were not about to replicate the same problems in the New World.

There are no legal precedents to ban abortion - only religious once. If we adhere to separation of church and state, we can not let our religious beliefs guide our laws. The problem with defining conception as the beginning of life is the fact that birth is not assured - miscarrages, birth defects and many other issues can prevent a child birth from taking place. Nobody can prove that an early stage abortion would be a guaranteed child several month later.

If the moment of conception defines a human beeing, a number of laws would have to be revisited - citizenship is one. A number of laws should be changed today as well to forbid mother to smoke, drink, participate in sports or any activity that can harm an unborn. As a society, we choose not to do this.

Why religious right chooses to focus on something, like aborton, that is not even well defined in the Bible is unclear to me. Why they do not rally for the laws that the Bible state clearly - help thy neigbour - is not clear either. I would expect religious people to push the laws to help poor and sick, but it is only the unborn that seem to be on their minds - never mind the living.

An older, nationally established Republican Presidential candidate (running for the second time, I might add) has a problem: he's lacking support from women, pro-life evangelicals, and the far-right ideologues of his party. In a move that seems like a band-aid placed on a failing levee...or perhaps a brilliant maneuver knowing how many Americans are issue-voters unable to see beyond their one pet cause...he selects a young, fresh-faced, attractive, profoundly pro-life Christian in order to bolster support in those aforementioned lacking areas.

Perhaps you think I'm talking about McCain/Palin '08, but I just gave you a brief synopsis of Bush/Quayle '88.

Washington, DC has become Hollywood, folks: no new ideas, just sequels getting pumped out because they've worked before...no matter how bad an idea they were the first time around, and no matter how much worse they are the second time. Critically speaking they are horrible decisions...but SOMEBODY is making money off of them, and so they continue.

Jefferson once said, "every generation needs a new revolution." It's been 20 years, my friends...repetition ain't exactly revolution. Let's try to see a bigger picture for once or we will bear witness to the fall of the American Empire in our lifetimes.

Nolan: can you picture this woman sitting down at a table with putin?

Yes I can! The question is why you're having such a hard time. Is the skirt making the picture too fuzzy?

Q. Sarah, are you at all concerned that Global Warming will cause Polar Bears to go extinct in your lifetime?

A. Of course I am. They're really great on the Barbeque.

I think we need more "inexperienced" politicians in Washington to shake things up - look how well the "Experienced" ones have done for us. At least she has run an organization other than a Staff and a Campaign. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. I am looking forward to what she has to say.

'"Probably Governor (Sarah) Palin of Alaska, because she's a person of strong faith," Land said. "She just had her fifth child, a Downs Syndrome child.'

It's very nice, but sounds like a show window VP. Obviously she won't be involved in any real decisions (if elected). That leaves us with McCain who is just a puppet of senator Lieberman.

No, thank you!

IMO, the best vote this time is NO VOTE.

"The sun revolves around the Evangelical church" - Copernicus
"I forgive you" Jesus
"From Evolution to Extinction in one swift move" Darwin
"Ho.. Ho.. Ho.. Mary Christmas" Santa Claus (To the Democrats)
"Nothing can travel slower than the speed of a republican mind" Einstein
"Is she available for a shoot"? Hefner
"I am 97% accurate when I say that this is a great choicd" - Flush Dingbaugh
"Let her ring my freedom Bell .. hehe." Sean Cannotbe
"Are you serious" Jon Stewart

Obama touts his mom as a christian woman from the heartland.......what baloney......he does say she was a great influence in his life.....one of the few things I believe that he says.....however she was an atheist, marxist opposed to the values of the heartland that Obama is trying to tie himself to....I believe she was a strong influence in his life and that is why he attended Wright's church for 20 years.....remember Marxists do not care for the working class.....they just see the working class as a tool to use to get their way...WANT SOCIALISM----VOTE OBAMA!

Ignoring the facts does not change the facts.

1) The GOP does NOT have the first woman on a presidential ticket.

2) Being Pro-Life and Pro-War is a hypocrisy (Palin)

3) McCain has trailed in the polls from the start. He has tried negative ads and now a rather unknown Republican woman on the ticket to swing voters. Understandable since talking about his positions on the issues will only alienate the majority of voters.

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

"I am Catholic and I am voting for Obama! And a woman! I think that people who are voting for this little pair needs to see what she is really about... like check out the article about how she was or is under an investigation with something to do about her ethics?! This country doesnt need another person in power with an ethics problem!"

The "ethics problem" stems from her sister's divorce from a man who threatened to kill her father and tazzered her son. In the divorce he signed papers stating his records could be released. Now he's mad his records got released. Before you use all of your !'s, cut the Democrat outrage and actually look into the story. Sorry to burst your bubble... Besides, with as many sketchy people that Obama has associated with, I wouldn't bring up ethics. Anyone who can be connected to that many sketchy people can be concluded to be sketchy himself.

McStain has once again proved that Obama/Biden is the best man for the job...the old perv should be embarrassed by his motives...pathetic at minimum!
EIGHT IS ENOUGH!! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!! EIGHT IS ENOUGH!! Obama's SO right, he really DOES NOT GET IT...or the American people...bye bye George W. Bush! HELLO Obama/Biden!

'"Probably Governor (Sarah) Palin of Alaska, because she's a person of strong faith," Land said. "She just had her fifth child, a Downs Syndrome child.'

It's very nice, but sounds like a show window VP. Obviously she won't be involved in any real decisions (if elected). That leaves us with McCain who is just a puppet of senator Lieberman.

No, thank you!

IMO, the best vote this time is NO VOTE.

Many white American electorates are immature, ignorant, selfish, racists and still live with racist mentality and practice racism which is considered as one of the greatest sins in Christianity. These so called secular Christians get filthy drunk with alcohol, gamble, womanize, make illicit love, women dress as little and tight as possible, expose their bosoms, legs and curves to solicit males, make love in public places, carry condoms when they go to church to pray with their girl friends and mistresses, young girls as young as 10-12 give birth to illegitimate children, there is rampant incest, pornography and child molesting amongst these Christian which is so shameful.

There is nothing to be proud of being a Christian and a hypocrite.

McCain dumped his disable wife to marry a rich woman and that is totally against Christianity.

Sara Palin seems like a fantastic choice. I usually vote Democrat but I am frustrated by the DNC, Obama, and the media. Besides, if all blacks (95%) can vote for Barack, why I guess we women can simply vote for one of ours. That's what I'm doing in any case.

The fact that John McCain would make such a reckless choice for VP really confirms the theory that this man has no respect for America, Women and the office of Commander and Chief. It is truly an insult to me as an American to see him give so little consideration to his VP select; to reduce his selection to guns, abortion and a fear of gays is outrageous!!! I am sick and tired of the direction this country is going and in the words of Obama- "8 is enough!"

I am mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore! I am officially on the bus to change. Women better wake up in this election!

Anyone who speaks of Palin's inexperience and endorses Obama is either a fraud or a moron. She's done more to facilitate change in 2 years than Obama's done in a lifetime. You can degrade Alaska, Christians, or even women all you want, but that's a fact.

Old John only picked Palin so he could have yet another woman half his age sitting at his feet complimenting him.

who cares about recession and rising costs of living, as long as i get to keep my gun and force my will unto others, everything is fine by me.

ewowoee

Good point Leon: The wind was taken out of Obama's sails with this.

I don't support Obama or McCain, but this is a homerun for McCain.

He showed his willingness to step out of the box as a maverick and choose a woman VP. Conservative independents will eat that up.

The VP selection may have a lot to do with motivating your group to get out and vote and demotivating your opponent's group, not just trying to swing the undecided.

Hillary got kicked to the curb for the nomination and the VP slot, in favor of old white guy Biden. Hillary supporters won't vote for McCain because of the Palin VP selection, but might stick it to Obama by just staying home on election day.

Palin though motivates evangelicals to go to the polls and vote for McCain whereas they might have stayed home. They certainly wouldn't vote for Obama.

If Palin turns out to be a good debater, the election will be another Bush-Gore squeaker, in favor of McCain.

How dumb is Obama? An Obama/Clinton Dream Ticket would have been INVINCIBLE!

No way McCain could have come close to beating that. But no, he had to have Biden. Now McCain picks a smart, articulate, Woman and I'll bet Obama loses because of it. He dissed Hillary and gets what he deserves.

"Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever;
wisdom and power are His.
He changes times and seasons;
He set up kings and deposes them.
He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning.
He reveals deep and hidden things;
He knows what lies in darkness,
and light dwells with Him."
Daniel 2:20-22

When it comes to Obama, on the matter of VP. please remember that: on day after he won sufficient delegates, he had a "Secret Meeting with Hillery and we don't know what they talk about it. Besides that
Hillery is not a follower "She is a LEADER"

Praise the LORD because Obama is awake and doesn't have to be reading someone else ideas and taking credit for that,like McCain does. And Obama is not thinking of destroying, invading or killing innocent people just because the have different point of views.

Bush says that he is Christian, and he gets drunk and lies all the time and always like Adam, when he told GOD, the Woman you gave me made me eat that fruit... He is always blaming others for his mistakes and failure's He never recognize his mistakes

Viva Obama The Next President of the United States Of America and my Brother in Christ!!!

As a PUMA- I am pleased with Sarah Palin. She is one tough cookie, who has the ability to think on her own and go toe to toe with the power brokers.

She became Governor of Alaska and immediately sold the "private jet" on eBay for a profit and found other jobs for her family's "private chefs". Her husband cooks for her family. You go- girl.

She has my vote.

"The Republicans now have the first presidential ticket to include a woman."

-The first presidential ticket to include a women was the Democrats in 1982 when Walter Mondale selected Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate. Instead of the word THE, did you mean to write THEIR?

re: old dude:

"religion does not belong in politics." Typical zionist, or morally bankrupt hogwash-speak. This country's "politics" had and continues to have religion as it's basis. All you Zionists and your atheist, ex-Christian victims can cry about this all you like, but so long as there are Christians in this country (which coincidentally was also founded by them) then you will never be able to purge it's Christian faith no matter how much you take control of the media and spread your immoral message.

Our current times also show that with politics and religion it is not an either-or situation. They can be "separate" in name just to calm all you outcasts down, yet both religion and politics continue to be equally valid.

The strongest choice McCain could have made for VP was Colin Powell. The next-strongest choice would have been Condi Rice. One assumes he didn't pick them because he needs desperately to shake off anything that has to do with gw bush.

His choice of Palin is disastrous in so many ways. Where does one start? Inexperience? Not familiar with the issues and wrong on the ones she is familiar with? Resurrecting the age issue for McCain? Reinforcing the bad judgment issue for McCain? Solidifying the idea that McCain has a bad temper/mean streak and picked Palin in part so he could rub Romney's nose in it?

Palin is a lily that came without gild. McCain has handed the election to the Ds.

Obama is a phony moron. No further explanation necessary.

pat:
I am sick of these men in their crumpled suits, spouting the same hot air, she will make a fresh and fun ticket. McCain-Palin-08

//

Yes indeed. While Iran goes nuclear, while the dollar disappears, while oil runs out and while China take over leadership in the world, that's what we need. Fresh and fun.

A PUMA??? I thought you were referred to as "cougars." ;-)

Okay...okay...back to your regularly scheduled serious topic of discussion.

Thanks John!

You just gauranteed an Obama victory!

I am a woman and I will NOT vote for John McCain because he chose a woman to be his vice presidential running mate.

I will vote for those who will make the best decisions about the issues we face as a nation. To me that is clearly Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

We have serious work to do. It is going to take solid and intelligent leadership to repair the mistakes of the Bush administration. We cannot afford to vote for McCain and Palin because, if you look at their records, and not at their claims as mavericks, they have supported more of Bush's poor decisions than opposed them. It is time to have courage and vote for those who will consider what is best for our country, and not for those who are like us only on the surface.

I will not have my life spelled out by a woman.

you all should have been aborted.

McCain simply chose a woman to be his Vice President simply to encourage Hillary Clinton supporters to vote for his Republican ticket. Plain and Simple Politics-- "get me into that office, and here's my ticket!" What other reason is there?

So...

Hillary has more experience than Obama
Biden has more experience than Obama
McCain has more experience than Obama
Palin has more executive experience than Obama

Hillary told us Obama doesn't have enough experience to be POTUS and Biden said he isn't ready to be POTUS.

Now you have Obama and Biden trashing another woman in order to get to the WH.

«"religion does not belong in politics." Typical zionist,»

Total retromingent garbage.

Religion DOES NOT belong in politics. It doesn't belong anywhere. It's a man made imaginary construct for weak willed people looking for answers under any rock they think they can find them.

The real story isn't Palin. The real story is Obama/Biden and Gustav. But Obama/Biden will bring significant and meanigful change to America, while Gustav just threatens to be a replay of Katrina and the failed policies of Bush/McCain era. So is Palin. Sorry John. We just don’t buy it. We want real change, not a farce.

WATCH THE VIDEO OF McCAIN INTRODUCING PALIN !!
HE IS BLATANTLY STARING AT HER BODY !!!
THIS IS THE GUY YOU WANT IN THE WHITE HOUSE ??

HAH HA HA!

"Viva Obama The Next President of the United States Of America and my Brother in Christ!!!"

REALLY?

Just a reminder of Obama's twenty year spiritual mentor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQWuQVE6sw

Obama's pastor & his Anti-American sermons!
Blames America for 911, calls the U.S. the "U.S.- of KKK - A"!! Obama agrees focus should be Africa. SEE VIDEO FOR YOURSELF!

FINALLY! People are getting to understand more about Obama and his connections! WARNING! If you thought about voting for Barack Hussein Obama ~ see this video! (And my others)

Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. is Barack Obama's pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ of Chicago ~ the church that Barack has belonged to for 20 years! Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

Conservative, religious, old white men with hot chicks FTW!

Joe Biden is the Catholic person I want one heartbeat away from the presidency.

So many people are so confused. It really is amazing. So many rely on the black-is-white theory. The Christians are really the evil ones. The Americans are really the oppressors. Big business is really running everything. Treating people like the adults they are only shows you don't care about them. And this refusal to understand the realities of abortion and the realities of war in a dangerous world is odd. You take some false high road, seeking to justify your support for aborting unborn human embryos and fetuses by comparing it erroneously to a willingness among most of us to defend ourselves and our allies against aggression in the world. Please devote some time to straightening out your pretzel minds.

RE:
McCain's Choice Inspires Evangelicals
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LETTER TO SENATOR BARACK OBAMA
Montreal, February 20, 2008

SENATOR OBAMA ,

The whole world has its eyes on you, on The United States Of America and its people.

Everyone expects you to be democratically elected and see that something happen in America.

In March 1983, one of humanity's most famous spokesmen, Pope John Paul II, came to our country - 'Haîti' - and loudly proclaimed what each and every one of us had been whispering:

'Something must change here.'

Today, more than ever, a lot of people of The United States of America stand up, longing for something and working to make something happen.

And, like in March 9, 1983, beloved Haiti, History - (which from then and now on rests in thy hands) - tells thee: "it is now time to let people speak to thee of love!', let's say today': 'Go thou America ahead and show us thy true countenance in a positive light.' It is up to everyone to play his or her part in order to let thee regain thy mark of excellence !"

With this letter, I am communicating with You, Senator Obama, and with the whole people of The United States of America.

You offer this country what it takes to be a 'Wonderfull Land.' Yes, let us say 'with a great people living together.'

Go thou, America, go ahead, following in the footsteps of one of thy sons who is now becoming one of thy statesmen.

With this in mind, Mr.Obama, to whom else could I entrust this letter sent to his Holiness Pope John Paul II when he set foot on Haitian soil for the first time, as well as its acknowledgment by the Vatican?

That letter to Pope John Paul II is intended to draw attention to the problem posed by anti-Black discrimination and its negative repercussions on the advancement of scientific progress in the West, and more precisely in the realm of Optics.

In the Western world, according to Newton's widely accepted theory, white is considered to be the synthesis of all colors. Actually, the opposite is true. White constitutes the analysis or 'visible' decoding of light or color, whereas black is its synthesis or 'invisible' composition.

In other words, darkness or blackness and, we might add, "Black Holes'"- a scientific misnomer designating invisible stars or 'Black Suns' - are a source of energy and light.

That basic raw material of light energy culminates, in its most radiant form, in the neutralization of all the colors of the spectrum in the form of so-called "white light."

Therefore "absolute blackness", the absorption of all the colors, is a divisible component of light. Needless to say, Newton's theory gives only a partial interpretation of the notion of light, by excluding black. Our contribution aims at demonstrating that the black color is not only an integral part of the color process, but its true synthesis. Light is therefore shown to be a divisible whole comprising an intensity or color scale in which black is the invisible or 'absorbed' form of the energy in question.

Allow me, Senator Obama, in order to support my statement concerning Black Holes and radiation, to pose a question asked by Hubert Reeves, Doctor of nuclear astrophysics and Scientific Consultant to NASA:

"What would have become of the Sun, if it were plunged into a high temperature radiance like the one that existed at the beginning of the Universe? [our translation]"

"Instead of emitting light, it would absorb it and, in the end, it would be completely reabsorbed into the cosmic fluid."

The cosmic fluid is what, due to an "optical mistake", is called "darkness" or the "blackness of space". We are talking about the electromagnetic flux, that immeasurable ocean in which the planets and stars are bathed, like the sea which links all the continents together. Darkness is thus "The Sea of Space."

"What would have happened if, instead of an ordinary star like the "White Sun", a Black Hole or "Black Sun" were injected into that primordial radiation?

"According to Einsteinian Physics, a Black Hole is a place where gravity is so formidably intense that nothing can escape it, not even visible light. Such a hole should suck in and absorb radiation and increase its own mass: E=MC2, always."

"But after Einstein came Bohr, Heisenberg, and Quantum Physic. From then on, nothing was the same as before.

"The Einsteinian version of the Black Hole is equivalent to a statement that the matter inside the Black Hole is definitely there to stay, in that volume of space. Let us quote Hubert Reeves: "Such an absolute statement is thus contrary to the "Quantum spirit", affirming that nothing is definitely localized in one place. There is always a probability of escape. If the enclosing wall is too high, a tunnel will be dug; if the prisoners are patient, they will escape. One has only to wait. [our translation]"

"According to that principle, Black Holes "evaporate." Matter constantly escapes as radiation. Black Holes "shine!" Their surfaces behave like those of any body heated to a certain temperature and that radiation endlessly feeds that marvelous "Cosmic Fluid" which, wrongly and in bad faith, people keep calling "Darkness."

Nigra sum "sed" formosa.

Yes, but should we not say instead, I am black "and" comely?

Darkness, which is both source and vehicle of light, does not have to defend itself for being the beautiful and infinitely discreet raw material of the Universe. Darkness is the "Mother of the Universe."

Also, beautiful and discreet art thou, Haiti. Discreet, yes, but never outshone! Just like the Black Virgin who inspires and sheds her love on thee from the hilltop and even beyond Cité Soleil (Sun City).

Our purpose was to offer a more constructive approach aiming at correcting the abusive traditional, so-called scientific, theories of Optics. That is why, we wrote to that authentic witness to the signs of this age, His Holiness Pope John Paul II, the prophet of the new era.

Congratulations to You, Sir, and congratulations to the people of The United States Of America, for having made it possible for this day to mark the beginning of a "New Era of Hope !"

Lucien Bonnet

PLease, SEE :
LETTER TO POPE JOHN-PAUL II
in 'BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca

LINKS (JANUARY 12, 2008)
UBC astronomer makes first map of dark matter
CTV.ca - 11 Jan 2008
For the first time, a team of UBC scientists have mapped the elusive "dark matter" in a supercluster of stars in the night sky.
New map lets scientists 'see' dark matter CBC News
Astronomers get best look yet at dark matter surrounding galaxies The Canadian Press
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NEW LETTER TO SENATOR BARACK OBAMA
Laval, Canada, August 28, 2008

SENATOR OBAMA,

‘It is in adversity’, I was going to say in ‘darkness’, that one recognizes true friends.

Energy of the Sixties tested, confronted by Todays’s Energy crisis, what does Science hold for us in this field at the crossroad of the third millennium?

Each of us should express solidarity, according to his means.

My contribution, apparently futuristic, refers, Senator Obama, to an inexhaustible source of energy, which one should tame now.

In a book with limited publication, translated in English for the needs of the cause, entitled ‘BILL A RI And There Was Light’, addressed during his last American election campaign to President Bill Clinton who acknowledged having received it, I dared to tackle this subject.

It’s like to say to you, Senator Obama, that in the exceptional circumstances in which we live today - in the point of view of energy - no exploration in the mid or long term, by the american expertise , of an additional source of energy, at the same time safe and profitable, should not be ruled out.

There is no witchcraft at all involved in all that, Mister Obama. In spite of my Haïtian ascent and my carefully phrased remarks. It is undoubtedly so when a taboo should be broken through. A taboo of magnitude, Sir, I admit it. A ’scientific’ taboo, seldom encountered.

‘ The taboo arises as a negative categorical imperative,’ affirms Roger Caillois.

It is not saying little. Especially when it is a question of adequately correcting the theory of Newton on light and colors.

However, at the dawn of the twenty first century, to denounce this taboo, to reverse it, should I say, what an asset! Moreover, at the same time the multiple taboos grow blurred which surround another phenomenon of the highest scientific range, the well known phenomenon under the abusive name of ‘Black Holes’, synthesis of light and colors. Indeed Newton, in good faith undoubtedly in his time, really reversed the interpretation of the phenomenon of light. He took the part for the whole ! So much and so well that today like yesterday, the visible appears so much more tempting. Physicists say it: ‘ninety to ninety nine percent of the matter of the universe (Grosso Modo - said here roughly by Lucien BONNET - for more precisions see "LINKS" or "GOOGLE") is made up of a dark matter, invisible, which generates, propels and surrounds the visible, like the sea surrounds the continents’. Scientists such as Stephen Hawking affirm it. The Hubble Telescope confirms it. But theoretical Optics is stagnant.

My intervention, here, Senator Obama, would mean that. It is possible to use another form of energy. By decoding the Black Matter.Without a play on words. Theoretically initially. While ‘returning the elevator to Newton’ - without a play on words. By the Act which consists in making an AMENDMENT TO THE LAW OF NEWTON ON LIGHT AND COLORS.

Presently, why should we take the result instead of the cause?

— Objectively and in a pragmatic way, how not focussing on the new synthesis?

Consequently, what a liberation !

At the threshold of the third millennium, let light live, invisible by synthesis, visible by analysis !

‘Synthesis and analysis are two wings of the same bird, the rythm of the universe’s heartbeat, tamed inside the infinitely small having mass. Successively contracted and deployed. In the benefit of humanity.’

One small step for Man, one giant leap for Mankind - I also said myself - in ‘ BILL A RI and there was light !… ‘

Unfortunate, yes, but how much a convenient Energy crisis if I dare say, which invites us to explore other avenues, other concepts and, therefore, other resources so far neglected.

Invitation to go from the invisible to the visible and vice versa. Taking advantage of the sequence of colorless and colored luminous speeds. In order to better understand the Universe. Where Law and Order prevail. Just like in Democracy !

Energetic formula with a unique character !

In the name of Science and Technology, vapor is being reverse !

A winning formula !

In The United States Of America.

By The United States Of America.

For The United States Of America and abroad !

With you today, Senator Obama, I repeat this sentence - since 1972 and 1978 - that is to say forty years old, but always, in my opinion, carrying the same message that I wish more and more positive for the years to come, in the third millennium, as I said since 1972 and on April 10, 1978, in a Letter to Doctor Carl Sagan:

‘On the cosmic scale as on the terrestrial scale, darkness or blackness forms an integral, sine qua non part, of color and light pocess’.

Is it still broad daylight
in the shadow of the black sun?

Yours truly,
Lucien BONNET

PLEASE SEE ‘Bill A Ri And There Was Light !’
IN: http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca

heck yeah, so what if mccain has a bunch of houses....obama lives in a million $$$$ house and so does his former pastor wright.....you really think they care about the poor.....yeah.....as long as the $$$$$$$$ keep coming in.....want to live in russia......vote obama!

Great choice! I sure here a lot of braying on here and other forums. Well, until all the facts on this woman are in I suggest the the party of the JackA$$ keep the braying to a minimum. Barack Obama has has never managed a Dairy Queen let alone a country. I think if you have to pick a VP who is stronger and more experienced than you to be credible you have real problems. I predict women with common sense will vote for her in droves. Obama, you in some trouble son!

After criticizing Obama for alleged inexperience, McCain chooses Sarah Palin as his running mate? She's a nice enough lady, I guess. But she's not even remotely qualified.

McSame has another thing coming if he thinks Hillary supporters will jump on his bandwagon!

First of all is Hillary going to sit there like a potted plant? Think how she is feeling right now...if I CAN'T go to the white house, then SHE is NOT going to the white house! I think a cat fight is coming and I can't wait!

Secondly, she stands for everything Hillary does NOT stand for. Come on girls, let's not get brainwashed. She is NOT Hillary!

McCain you think women are idiots and that we'll fall for this pitiful attempt to lure us into your awaiting arms.

EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK! Ever hear of it?

It's funny that McCain would come out with this pick today. It only magnifies the things that Obama spoke about in his speech last night.

One side is pro choice and the other isn't so let's come together and do something about preventing unwanted pregnancies.

Why can't we support the 2nd amendment and keep AK47s out of the hands of criminals?

Obama speaks of change and making things better, the other side keeps carping on the same stagnant philosophical differences.

But the real issue is what wasn't mentioned here, it is that Palin came out in an interview and admitted that the Republican party is corrupt and it needs to be cleaned up. Why would we willingly vote for an admittedly corrupt party? How about they clean up their act first so we can worry about cleaning up what they have already screwed up. I've also seen the notes about her being investigated as well. So between McCain and the Keating 5 and her well they are just gonna have a party now won't they?

So we have the ticket, "Beauty and the Beast". Nice.

McCain, who if he wins will be the oldest president, and his VP with two years experience. Nice.

The Republicans just tossed out the "Obama doesn't have enough experience" argument - I wonder if they'll continue to be blind to their own hypocrisy.

Ms. Palin will not long remain the Republican candidate.
She is currently being investigated for abuse of power.
Apparently she fired a Commissioner who refused to fire a State Trooper who was divorcing her sister.

This is a shame.

Republicans need to reassert their assertion that they respect the rule of law.
To nominate a candidate based on her record of anti-corruption, only to find that she is corrupt herself, is an embarrassment.

Cut her loose and start again.

go read some more fairy tales and tell others how to live their life.

face it, you are basing your life on fantasy and in the end there will be nothing for you.

this country is on it's way out and it is all your fault.

With the current abuse-of-power charges against this Hillary wannabe, Palin is a perfect choice for John McSame and his plans to continue the Bush/Cheney abuse-of-power style of governance. "The Grand Old Party ain't grand anymore, it's just old".

Explain to me how Obama has any more experience than Palin?

All Obama has done is "act presidential" for the past year, so everyone has come to think he's presidential material. He certainly has not accomplished more than Governor Palin.

So, for everyone freaking out over her inexperience, get some perspective! She's a governor, not a senator. Guess what the background is of most presidents?

Governor.

Way to go!

A vice president should certainly be more than just a pretty face or a certain religion or gender to win over votes. Biden was picked because he has much experience in all areas and if something were to happen to Obama, Biden would be ready to lead America. Palin, however, lacks all experience. She's a nobody!

I just wish people would realize the turmoil the country is in and the future we face. Economy should be the number one thought on all Americans' minds. Just because you are wealthy or live in a town where people are not struggling does not mean it's not real. I am a 22 year old senior college student going to be nearly 100 grand in debt when I am finished spending roughly 600 dollars a month on gas. McCain wants to offer us no sort of energy/gas tax breaks to offset the steep incline of oil. A friend of mind recently had to quit her job to take care of her ailing because she could not afford to have anyone or any facility to help. Uphill battles middle America faces. Look at the top wealthiest people in the country.. Hell look at the top 1000 richest people in 2007 it was 1 billion dollars got you on that list. In 2008 you need 1.3 billion dollars to be on that list. That is a 30% increase. The rich keep getting richer. These are not people creating jobs for you either. The people getting richer are Wall Street guru's who got together to invest in another company. They then horde their earnings instead of starting companies that create jobs. You think after billionaires made their first
1 billion dollars, which is far more money than any individual needs in 50 lifetimes, they needed to retire. NO. They make money to say they can make that much money its a competition. And I know that's America and that is how we do it but at some point it has to be regulated the slightest bit to give money back to the people that really built this country. Trickle down economics is not working at the moment. I am not saying it doesn't help but it simply isn't working currently.

And please stop thinking of Gender or Race for this election. McCain lost to Bush and most of the country hates or at least realizes what a bad job he is doing. And now you want to vote for a lesser man/off spring of the same administration.

Just please look at the greater picture and the greater good of the country. We can not afford another 4 years of disastrous economics which McCain has quoted Economics is his weakest area. Come on you swing states muster up the courage to take back our country and help the people you see on a day to day basis and the ones you do not.

OBAMA/BIDEN!

No Brad they won't because just like the evangelicals they are blind to their own mirror.

hey ms. clinton if you come over from the dark side and join the Republican. One day you might just vice president

McCain's senility is on display. With him and this woman in the White House, they'll have to bring back Karl Rove to manage.

I fear that Steve in Scottsdale is correct-
At McCain's age I would have hoped he would have made a choice of an individual who is competent to run the country in his absence. I feel he has made a grave error with this choice.
Every candidate makes these choices with concern for the votes they can bring in. However, to make a choice based *only* on that is irresponsible at best.
Sad.....very sad!

OBAMATACTICS

Bill Clinton was called a racist...
Hillary was run over...
Pennsylvanians were called bitter...

Some have reminded us how ninety-five pecent of blacks are voting for Barack. At least they are unified! As a Hillary supporter and a woman, I say let's go for it ladies! Vote for Palin and set up the race in 2012.
Hillary vs. Sara - assures a female president, but only if McCain wins this election.
A vote for McCain is a vote for women.

A time-worn proverb says, "Those whom the gods would destroy they first make mad". No doubt, a few of the knuckle-dragging beer swillers will applaud the choice, but the pathetic attempt to exploit the supposed "army" of disappointed feminists serves only to show the bare face of desperation. If this is the kind of wisdom we can expect from McCain I'll stay home and listen to replays of his complaints about Obama's "inexperience". Does this mean he'll get no Xmas card from Romney now ?

Obamaniacs-

Better quit fretting and simpering like a quivering girly man over McCain VP Selection.

There be rough waters ahead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZqcMNA1DGI

Okay,here we go again,The Republicans declared "We now have the first Republican woman vp nominee"not the first woman vp nominee.Maybe you should have been paying attention to Geraldine F. earlier when interviewed..To about no God crap in politics, this country is gonna beg God to be in politics when we look up and see a nuke warhead coming at us,guess what, its gonna be toooo late.Being a member of NRA is important because the constitution says that she and any non-felon has a right to bear arms.Again, I say, when terrorists open fire on cities again in our country(since Slick Willie let them gain so much ground under his 8 year watch and GW inherited his mess,and don't forget Rwandan genocide,also under his watch,do I need to go on?)you are gonna wish you had 10 guns with plenty of ammo.As far as Armageddon, it's coming the day America turns on Israel, and then you are gonna run next door to that Jesus freak you've cursed for years and guess what, they won't be there because they'll be raptured and you'll be left behind and as far as Jesus not carrying a gun, he didn't need a gun and still doesn't, He's God and he is coming back with a sword in his mouth with his army and yes, this time He will be mad and we'll have Armageddon.For fun, read Revelations,what has already taken place and what is to be, it may surprise you to know that Obama is so slick and charasmatic, he actually fits the description of the Anti-Christ. Now I didn't say he is...so don't get nuts on me. Only God(Jesus)Holy Spirit.they are all the same, knows how this will play out. I don't want anyone left behind, but we are spiraling,but my God is still in control!!!

"I am mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore! I am officially on the bus to change. Women better wake up in this election! "

Certainly, Obama people are a group of hate and anger ones. And mad ones too.

But do not try to destroy everything.

american evangelicals and all persons of faith are charged with considering issues that affect the larger family of humankind, a consideration that most of the world currently feels is greatly and deeply lacking. if you disagree with this, or feel that it is not significant or that america gets a pass on it behavior globally for the past eight years, and that the nearly universal loss of standing of the country under the current administration is mere petty foreign grousing -- than there is little point in continuing to read this. but if the current us posture and need for making amends seems a reasonable need, then the choice of a friendly local governor who is loving to her children and popular and charming and even who appeals to pro-life consituencies, and is doubtless a good egg, but who no serious person can feel has the experience to deal with the currently ravaged and dangerous world, a world far far less stable than that of even a cravenly 'balancing' cipher-choice like dan quayle, then those persons of faith must ask themselves seriously what kind of loving of their neighbor, in the largest sense, they are really participating in when supporting this choice. ditto for mccain himself.

I'm a lifelong Democrat who's voting Republican for the first time in her life. This VP choice cements it.

if 90% of Alaskans like Palin then we should all shut up and give her a chance and not just regurge the rhetoric of our party.

Don't let the Dems trash another woman...

The selection of Mrs. Palin as partner to McCain ranckles on the Liberals because the Republicans now have a unified team. The issue of Palin's gender is second to her ethical stance, anti big government, pro-drilling and pro life policy. She is also a very strong woman, something the Democratic Party ( not to be confused with many Democrats) cannot tolerate.

As to Mrs. Palin's credentials, as Governer of Alaska she has had to deal with international transportation issues ( ever heard of Canada?) and international trade issues ( how 'bout that Russian fishing fleet). Remember, experience isn't just gathered in office, rather in all of life. She has been to Iraq as often as Obama, but not as a rock star, as a person --- . The vice presidential debate will be interesting. Biden is in a battle with Sarah Baracuda, and believe me, He will remember THIS one.

There's not Failin' with Palin.

McCain just handed the election to Obama on a silver platter.

You want me to vote for a 73 year old man and his pick for VP is someone I've never heard of and apparently has 2 years of being a lap dog for the Bush administration? No thanks.

Say it with me: President Obama

You expect me to believe that the person "one heartbeat away" from the presidency should be a person I've never heard of?? I'm sure McCain will attempt to "introduce us" to this person, but I pay close attention to politics and this choice is a blatant pandering job. Just weeks ago he was saying that the most important job of the VP is to check the daily health of the president. Last I checked McCain's health was an issue in this election.

Like I said, McCain just handed Obama the election on a silver platter.

See you in 2012

Yeah the only real change Obama Binladin is going to realy make is that he would be the first black president, that he is against this countries values. AND raising TAXES to pay for health care. But all of you who vote for Obama Binladen are the ones who want to sell out your country. I would Vote for GEN. Colon Powell before obama if he running for president to be the first black man in office.

This has effectively taken the experience issue off the table. If the Dems waste their time pointing out HER inexperience, it only allows the Reps to contrast Obama with McCain. If the Reps bend their pretzel logic, as some already are, that she has 'executive' experience, not just legislative experience, then they have to face the criticism that she was the mayor of a town of less than seven thousand and has less than two years of experience as the governor of the 47th ranked state, with less than .22% of the nation's citizenry, and, if I'm not mistaken, a part time state government.

This is a straw horse--there is a sharp divide on the issues and the way the two candidates and campaigns are conducting themselves. If people are unable to discern the difference and make a reasonable and intelligent choice without the misrepresentations and vitriol that seem to abound on both sides, we do a disservice to the process and our country.

I am extremely proud and profoundly distressed by the political process of this great country--when did civility become extinct?

I believe in God out of fear, which is why I believe in McCain. The terrorists are going to attack us again sooner or later and all we need to be on edge, expecting death around every corner, just like McCain. I'm glad McCain picked a God fearing Evangelist to bring up the slack, because, God knows, our interpretation of the universal being of existence is the Right one. Anyone who thinks otherwise hates America and hates freedom and should be silenced slowly and expensively. Do not let other cultures influence you! They are merely tricks of the Devil!

What 70 year old wouldn't want a 40 year old hot babe to cruise around in his newly acquired Airforce-1 jet?

It is well that John McCain has selected a thoroughly obnoxious woman to be his vice presidential running mate.

Sarah Palin hunts and fishes and opposes abortion. She is an alleged "soccor mom" and a right wing Christian Evangelical.

She represents everything in this society that is wrong with it--everything that I abhor--everything that has fueled Bush's eight years of aberrant misrule.

Though McCain's choice is obviously as cynical as Sarah Palin is unfit (he hopes to pull away a few disaffected Hillary supporters), let the dichotomy remain clear:

Sarah Palin v. Joseph Biden as a possible leader of this nation in a worst case scenario.

Palin lacks every possible qualification that Biden possesses.

Now, I trust--nay, I pray (you Christian Fundamentalists have no corner on prayer) that Barack Obama and Joe Biden do not begin to track to the right in an effort to counter Palin's appeal to Fundamentalists. Gore tried that approach in 2000 and it did not work. Kerry tried it in 2004 and it did not work.

Stand strong and resolute, Obama and Biden.

Call a spade a spade. Speak the hard truths that
Americans need to hear if their nation is to be saved.

Let the ignorant, the reactionary, the greedy, the selfish, the "Amurka first" crowd of born againers and Republican greed hounds--depart from your ranks. They would have been appealed to by McCain in the end anyway. You can't court them. You don't need them. Do not prostitute yourselves.

I believe enough intelligent Americans will exist still in November to elect Barack Obama so that he may begin to implement the changes in America outlined in his brilliant acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention August 28.

America cannot afford four more years of warmed over Bush policies in a McCain-Palin administration.

Such would be a nightmare and a disaster for our nation. We have been through enough since 2000. Four more years of the same would be wholly unacceptable.

Enough is enough.

D. Grant Haynes

People can compromise on prinicples and find common ground.

This cannot be said about ANY religion. People will not compromise if they feel they are letting God down or that God is watching them or that God will punish them.

That is why religion has killed more people than it has ever helped.

"Some have reminded us how ninety-five pecent of blacks are voting for Barack. At least they are unified! As a Hillary supporter and a woman, I say let's go for it ladies! Vote for Palin and set up the race in 2012.
Hillary vs. Sara - assures a female president, but only if McCain wins this election.
A vote for McCain is a vote for women."

Ummm...doesn't this sort of presuppose McCain doesn't make it through his term or decides not to run for President a second term? What exactly do you know that we don't? ;-)

Abortion is not a political issue. It's a life issue. If the laws were reversed, abortions would be performed illegally. To stop abortion, we need to invest in our education. McCain or any other republican will do nothing to change Roe v Wade, because republican candidates need it as an issue to gain votes. I am a devout christian and I am tired of being used and abused by the Republican Party. GW is the worst president in our history. Obama is a once in a lifetime leader. I am praying GOD will help us all understand the importance of making the right choice, because only then can we stop the senseless killings of our unborn children. Education! Obama is our only hope! Invest in America's future instead of America's wealthy elite!

For those who want to cite that African Americans voted for Obama because he is black, that is very ridiculous and insulting. Basically you are saying that black people don't have the intelligence to vote based on the issues and the person that they feel will help them.

Why is the race of the candidate that an African American votes for an issue? Have people not voted for white men for many years and no one ever said it was because they are white? If you are annoyed that black people are supposedly only voting for Barack because he is black, why are you not equally annoyed that white people are NOT voting for Barack because he is black? That is wayyyy more ridiculous. In this day and time where racial equally is not close to existing (ask my children who are called very nasty names at their school even in 2008)it will never exist when people say ignorant things like that. I have voted every election since I was 18 years old. I am almost 40. Oh and I voted for plenty of white men, and it was'nt just because they were white.

In my opinion she is a good choice and I think is time to stop the personal attacks to people.We are talking serious business and I think if a person is well educated and have some government experience it is. look at the Clinton presidential era, he was not the candidate for those looking "experience" in a candidate but look at his legacy, the same happens with Kennedy in the 60's.

In addition I want to say that no one in politics represent the Christian evangelicals in USA. I am a moderate evangelical and I am for Obama / Biden because it is my conviction after analyzing several facts. Pat Robertson, James Dobson or any other religious leader are not a fair representation of the American christians, they are only representing their personal interests groups, not Christ church which is compose of people from all color, race, background. And again, I am a moderate christian who thinks we need to rebuild among other things the way Christianity is show to all people where sometimes it looks like we Christians are supporters of only one party when the opposite is what is really true.

I also respect anyone that choose to vote for McCain and Palin for what they are and not because they belong to certain party that try to rob the identity of His church.

Moises FG
Fort Lauderdale, Florida

hasn't it been too long without a woman in the whitehouse?

would we be in this mess if there had been?

Obama ran over Hillary to win the nomination!

If McCain wanted a woman VP, Kay B. Hutchinson was available. A governor? Mitt Romney, who has actually done something in office, including dealing with the politics of health care. McCain's candidate cannot be compared to Hillary. Guarantees a slogan ridden, vacuous campaign at the time we can least afford it.

Yuck! Are you kidding me? What sexism! Will women vote for a woman just because she's a woman? What about whats best for the country?

hahahhahahhahaha!!!

it must be nice to have no grasp of reality and live in world of fantasy.

if i lived in your world i would have unicorns and puppies that never grow up.

raptured. haaha, you miss are an idiot.

connie:

Okay,here we go again,The Republicans declared "We now have the first Republican woman vp nominee"not the first woman vp nominee.Maybe you should have been paying attention to Geraldine F. earlier when interviewed..To about no God crap in politics, this country is gonna beg God to be in politics when we look up and see a nuke warhead coming at us,guess what, its gonna be toooo late.Being a member of NRA is important because the constitution says that she and any non-felon has a right to bear arms.Again, I say, when terrorists open fire on cities again in our country(since Slick Willie let them gain so much ground under his 8 year watch and GW inherited his mess,and don't forget Rwandan genocide,also under his watch,do I need to go on?)you are gonna wish you had 10 guns with plenty of ammo.As far as Armageddon, it's coming the day America turns on Israel, and then you are gonna run next door to that Jesus freak you've cursed for years and guess what, they won't be there because they'll be raptured and you'll be left behind and as far as Jesus not carrying a gun, he didn't need a gun and still doesn't, He's God and he is coming back with a sword in his mouth with his army and yes, this time He will be mad and we'll have Armageddon.For fun, read Revelations,what has already taken place and what is to be, it may surprise you to know that Obama is so slick and charasmatic, he actually fits the description of the Anti-Christ. Now I didn't say he is...so don't get nuts on me. Only God(Jesus)Holy Spirit.they are all the same, knows how this will play out. I don't want anyone left behind, but we are spiraling,but my God is still in control!!!

The maverick is a pandering hypocrite!

What gall.

Obama just won the election.

Lol @ father Tex. Very good

GOOD JOB TO TERRA BIT, COULDN"T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!

instead of arguing of these upcoming elected officials, we ought to consider ourselves. Does this nation turn around because of Mcain and Obama or does it turn around with us. Do we believe in killing unborn children, do we believe in holding on to ignorance in racism, do we desire to give a good future to our children, do we agree with that phrase on all our currency that says, "In God we Trust". I know that i need to take a strong look at what i believe is right above hoping i'm voting correctly. This nation is heading in a downward spiral and its not because of clinton, bush, mccain, or obama. I need to spend less arguing and more time changing my own life and pray that the officials who are soon to be elected will lead us in the right direction.

McCain is insulting to women everywhere.

This pick is a joke.

Republicans just threw away the election.

Wow, what a bunch of vicious jerks.

I wasn't very excited about the VP selection until I heard about Sarah Palin. She seems very interesting and has a great, however short, track record and has nothing to be ashamed of.
I'm excited about what she's done and who she is as a person.

Somehow, people who have never heard of her are instantly prepared to make crude, vicious comments about her.

The Democratic party claims to hold the high ground on diversity, but I guess it's only on their terms. Obama/Biden only promises to drag America to their Left. The same OLD left philosophy of Stalin and Mao. God help us if they succeed. I'm not going to make crude comments about those idiots, but I do care about their plans for our country.

"WATCH THE VIDEO OF McCAIN INTRODUCING PALIN !!
HE IS BLATANTLY STARING AT HER BODY !!!
THIS IS THE GUY YOU WANT IN THE WHITE HOUSE ??

HAH HA HA!"

Another Obama's political gay? Why watch McCain when Palin is on spot?

We can't afford Obama's slogan ridden, vacuous campaign.

Palin in '08
Hillary in '12

McCain should have just picked his multi-millionaire trophy wife.

At least he knows he can shove her around.

Another neocon lapdog just a heartbeat away? No way.

"....As a Hillary supporter and a woman, I say let's go for it ladies! Vote for Palin and set up the race in 2012.Hillary vs. Sara - assures a female president, but only if McCain wins this election. A vote for McCain is a vote for women."
posted by Lisa Deland

Lisa, have you lost your MIND?!!! You would want this country to be so dangerously positioned in this volatile world and our economy to continue on this collision course with a depression just to have a woman presidential match-up in 2012?

Have you READ what McCain's positions are on women's issues? You are willing to plunge your sisters into more darkness for 4 more years just to have a showdown between two females in 2012?

THIS IS NOT A TV REALITY SHOW FOR GOD'S SAKE!

This is the REAL WORLD and frankly I am ashamed to be associated with other Hillary supporters who would be turncoats and support McCain for this reason. Hillary is bigger than that, and you should be, too.

Get OVER IT, and let's move forward. I have, and millions of other Hillary supporters have, too. This is too serious to turn this into some junior high clique power struggle.

Sarah Palin brings a wealth of experience in government at the local and state level having served in many fields. Those who are critiquing her lack of experience will never have a fraction of the experience she already has.

Everyone please stop fighting...I'm f***ing serious..

It is about time we had the elite (not elitists) in power. One of the best predictors of success at work is the type and quality of education.

Take a look at the educational resumes:

McCain:
United States Naval Academy, Annapolis.
Class rank: Fifth from the bottom, 894 out of 899

Obama:
Harvard Law School
Editor Harvard law Review
JD from Harvard magna cum laude (latin for "With great honor")

Biden:
JD Syracuse University College of Law

Palin:
BA in journalism from University of Idaho

although he has picked a fundie freak, don't forget that he is still john mccain and he still has some big freaky thing growing on the side of his face.

It is about time we had the elite (not elitists) in power. One of the best predictors of success at work is the type and quality of education.

Take a look at the educational resumes:

McCain:
United States Naval Academy, Annapolis.
Class rank: Fifth from the bottom, 894 out of 899

Obama:
Harvard Law School
Editor Harvard law Review
JD from Harvard magna cum laude (latin for "With great honor")

Biden:
JD Syracuse University College of Law

Palin:
BA in journalism from University of Idaho

The article forgot to mention how relieved BIG OIL will be to have another friend in the White House - just in case McCain falters in carrying out the Bush oil legacy. It's too perfect with Palin and her husband both having major longstanding interests in oil and petroleum. Any McCain funding concerns will sure be looking up with all of that Exxon Mobil $$$$$$$$$ to back this team up. Genius!

Palin in '08
Hillary in '12

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In a nutshell......she is qualified as Governor (women or not) of Alaska and will help the Conservative ticket. She has more experience than Prince “no plan” Obama. Don't hop on the bandwagon and vote for him because he’s created a visual smoke and mirrors show last night. (Insert pathetic weeping sounds) Who truly knows the man behind the Curtin?

Our Gov. isn’t our savior it is people like Sarah Palin raising families and continuing the value structure this country was build on. Change is good......when it’s responsible change!

Stop this blogging nonsense right now or burn in hell

Obama says there are 57 states?

They teach that at Harvard?

4V4 I You believe in god. But why would you believe in anything out of fear? As Frederick the Great observed many years ago, “ god is on the side of those with the biggest cannons. Unless we Americans start believing in ourselves and our ability to build a better country and world, god won’t come to your aid. Why would you vote for a candidate out of fear, when you can vote for a candidate who represents hope? Obama does. Think about it!

McCain just lost the election. This pick would be hilarious if it weren't so insulting to women.

I've always wanted to meet Sharon Osbourne.

To John H. You this about religion how??? Just to clarify one point, God will not punish you because He loves you. You will punish you. He gave us free will, and you can exercise it to your benefit or detriment. That, sir, is up to you. Lucifer, the most beautiful angel in Heaven had free will, Eve and Adam had free will. Not following the rules, condemned them, not God. Besides, take a look at the Jesuits, a good deal of modern science and medicine can be attributed to them. Did people kill in the name of religion, you bet your seet boots they did. But those were people with personal agenda, and that includes certain Popes, ministers, Rabbis, etc. But by and large, you are wrong, the formalized religion we all seem to crave has saved more lives then all the abherrant religious idiots in all of history have sacrificed.

"For those who want to cite that African Americans voted for Obama because he is black, that is very ridiculous and insulting. Basically you are saying that black people don't have the intelligence to vote based on the issues and the person that they feel will help them."
by Ms Rainy

Memo to Rainy:
You need to look up the words procapita. Afterwards, study the "African American" voting statistics in races where a black runs against a white. Polling on Obama suggests that approximately 95 percent of blacks support him. Why do you think that is true? Try being honest.

Obama says there are 57 states...

And who was the last student Harvard Law School flunked out?

when can we start shipping all the evangelicals in this nation back to hell?

I created a country for the separation of church and state. Duh!!

just curious, but what exactly is the relationship between being a true believer and being a member of the NRA? I don't recall reading anything in the bible about carrying heat, though I do remember lots of stuff about JC's softer side. but then the evangelicals also seem to think that the bible preaches against taxes too.

Yeah well you wont say it but i will.....OBAMA IS THE ANTI CHRIST...I felt that way since the day He first fit his big-ole-ears on my TV. But yeah I feel that If anyone would Turn there back On Israel It would BE A MAN with a terrorist sounding name, one without patriotism to his country, and sombody who will change the rules as the game is played.... AND THAT IS WHY WE CANNOT HAVE OBAMA AS THE LEADER IN THIS COUNTRY. HE IS EVIL..HE IS THE DEVIL AND HE HAS PEOPLE FOOLED

May God have mercy on US all if Obama gets it.

I created a country for the separation of church and state. Duh!!

I disagree with CHAD comments and other people here because I think they are too prejudice.

I think that McCain election for running mate is great and represent a new face of the old School Republican party. But because she is a woman and have five children it does not mean I need to vote for her. She, I think is a very nice candidate and I think McCain catch everyone out of balance by choosing her. She have what it take to run for such position but, it does not means she represent a motivation for the evangelicals of USA. The same I think is true about some religious leaders we do have in our country.

This or any election is not about religion or personal position but about what is best for the USA and I think our country is in very bad shape right now and needs some real leadership to help restore trust and relationship with other countries around the World. We need other people / countries to help USA to come back again as a World leader.

If you think we are the strong leader we were some years ago please check by yourself the position of the dollar against other currencies (NZ dollar, GBP, EU, Canadian Dollar, Australian Dollar) and then let's talk about the real thing.

Also I think is time we tell leaders like James Dobson, Pat Robertson and other alike that they do not tell us how we vote and that we do not need to follow their personal religious agendas that are more divisive than looking for the unity of all Christian and citizens of our great nation.

Jesus church is from people around the World with different backgrounds, ideas, color, race, etc.

MoiseFG
Fort Lauderdale, Florida

In a nutshell......she is qualified as Governor (women or not) of Alaska and will help the Conservative ticket. She has more experience than Prince “no plan” Obama. Don't hop on the bandwagon and vote for him because he’s created a visual smoke and mirrors show last night. (Insert pathetic weeping sounds) Who truly knows the man behind the Curtin?

Our Gov. isn’t our savior it is people like Sarah Palin raising families and continuing the value structure this country was build on. Change is good......when it’s responsible change!

"in a nutshell......she is qualified as Governor (women or not) of Alaska and will help the Conservative ticket. She has more experience than Prince “no plan” Obama."

Miss Wasilla has served less than two years as governor. She's been mayor of a small town. She may have many virtues, but she is clearly not more experienced than Obama. Nutshell, indeed.

This is for all republicans and Democrats that are worry about Sarah Palin taking over the presidency. Iwant you all to know I am a 73 year old senior citizenand I don't planing dying in the next 4 to 8 years and if I do,she will have more experience learning the job as VP than Obama would as the president.Beside she deosen't have the baggage Obama does.

Most of you supporters never heard of Palin until 20 minutes ago. Now you love her, support her and want her a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Marvin. Brother I have been where you are. It ain't real. It's all in your head. And it was all just in other peoples heads when they decided to kill for it.

Religion is the ultimate obsessive compulsive disorder.

Its interesting to me that Republican strategists view women as an uninformed, homogenous, and self-interested group. They think that the pick of Governor Palin will attract the disaffected supporters of Senator Clinton. A meager review of her resume shows that shes anti-choice, connected to the biggest oil firms in the world, and totally inexperienced. And Mccain supports think that women wont see through this smoke screen they are creating to try and win female voters, by putting a wolf in sheeps clothing (in this case a skirt) on the ticket. It just reinforces how disconnected Senator McCain really is with reality.

TB:
Ok first you said that you were voting for Obama and them you went on a rampage about Obama, and my use of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, First of all you are not too bright,and cannot check your writing before you send it out. You are a registered voter?? (scary) You obviously secretly like Obama!!! Speaking of sketchy, this whole current administration is beyond sketchy as well as many former presidents.
I love the way conservatives value things that have nothing to do with them. They disapprove of abortion, although half of them cannot have one, they disapprove of homosexual relationships, although half of them are involved in one. They love the republican party although the party is not thinking about them because they are only concerned with other people like them, super rich. Good job backing folks that could care less about you.

And I go for Obama / Biden because to me they are the real deal.

Sorry for those Christians (as I am one)that think Obama represent the evil or is not a right candidate.

MoisesFG
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Come on over and join the Republican Party and get away from the past and all of the failed dreams of that other party.

Pandering to Clinton voters is the last straw.

I'll never vote for McCain or his inexperienced neocon lapdog.

Way to lose the election, grandpa.

When John Mccain first won the Republican nomination for President, I was concerned that while he was a war hero like Bob Dole, he would fail for the same reasons. The selection of Palin is brilliant. She is strong, decisive and smart. At least she can build her resume in the second position, unlike Obama who will do it on the job as President. I have run a number of corporations and it is alot harder to make the tough decisions every day as manager than it is to just sit on an elected board and just vote and leave, or just criticize someone else's decisions and actions. There is alot more involved than either teaching a law class or being a community activist and organizer. Election Over. McCain=53% Obama=46% Others=1%

I never heard of this lady until 10 minutes ago but I support her and she will be ready to lead if McCain dies.

So, John McCain picks a woman. What a farce? Is that change, real change? Didn’t Fritz Mondale do that decades ago? Get real John. Real change is more than a cosmetic choice. It has to be rooted in conviction. As Lincoln might have said, you may be able to fool some of our women some of the time, but you won’t be able to fool all of them all of the time.

Obama just won the election.

Thanks, see you in 2012.

"This is the REAL WORLD and frankly I am ashamed to be associated with other Hillary supporters who would be turncoats and support McCain for this reason. Hillary is bigger than that, and you should be, too."

Hillary is a seasoned politician. Obama is not.

He and his wife and mentors are a clique of America hating far-left freaks who are showing a veneer of acceptability and underneath they are vipers. America is seeing through these deceivers.

The Clintons see through them. Did you listen to Hillary's speech at the convention. She said not a word of personal affinity or support for the Obamas. She and Bill did only what they had to.

I am voting for McCain.

rljmsilver:

And John McCain has been a CEO?
I missed that on his resume.

Lewis,

The republican party is the representation of the most ugly things that happens to our great country today. Unless you are a millionaire or own oil wells I do not see the point in your comments.

MoisesFg
Fort Lauderdale, Florida

i wanna know where in the bible does it say you have to be deaf, blind, dumb, completely intolerant, and ridiculously self righteous to be a christian?

Yes I am the anti-christ but keep it under your hat.

This would be great except that no one has ever heard of her and John McCain has a history of degrading women, including his wife.

Congrats Dems.

attacking another woman? writes "if 90% of Alaskans like Palin then we should all shut up and give her a chance and not just regurge the rhetoric of our party.Don't let the Dems trash another woman..."

So you're saying a female candidate is too weak to take the heat and is somehow going to stand up to Putin or take out Bin Laden? From what I saw of the convention, the Democratic Party honored Senator Clinton, they didn't trash her.

Randy N writes "Explain to me how Obama has any more experience than Palin?"

The experience argument is silly in either case. Both Bush presidents, Carter, and Nixon had a lot more experience than Obama or Palin. All 4 Presidents were disasters.
George Will said, in regards to the 1988 campaign "Mr Dukikis said the election wasn't about ideology but competance, than proceeded to run an incompetant campaign"
The test for President is securing the nomination. Senator Obama came from behind against a candidate with greater name recognition and tons more money and won. He won using a better strategy and better tactics. He has certainly passed any test needed to be qualified for office. Ms. Palin, on the other hand, has proven she can be elected governor of Alaska and she hates polar bears. I guess she will get Stephen Colbert's vote.

Mark the Shark says "I predict women with common sense will vote for her in droves. Obama, you in some trouble son!"

You really don't know much about women, do you? You think women will vote against their interests to support a failed beauty queen because she lacks a y chromosome?

Hillbilly girl writes "I'm a lifelong Democrat who's voting Republican for the first time in her life. This VP choice cements it."

I've been hearing variations of that line since the 1992 elections. What you are is a lifelong Republican who lacks any kind of imagination. If you voted for Kerry, Gore, and Clinton, but suddenly NOW you're coting Republican, I'll eat my aging cat with curry sauce. My money say's you're a liar.

"Hillary is a seasoned politician. Obama is not."

Wow! A seasoned loser?

The entire book of Job.

In 1993, McCain had a cancerous mole removed from his shoulder. The mole was diagnosed as melanoma, the most serious form of skin cancer. He had a recurrence of skin cancer in 2000 and surgery to remove two melanoma lesions, one from his left temple and the other from his left arm.
He was a POW in a Vietnamese prison camp for more than five years and still suffers from multiple injuries as a result of the experience, including a broken right knee that is now arthritic.
McCain had a procedure to treat an enlarged prostate in 2001. He smoked until age 45.

Think about Ted Kennedy. One day he's the grand leader of the democratic party, and a few months later he's so weak from chemo that he can barely make it to the podium for a speech at the convention. If Palin/McCain are elected, it's very likely the same thing will happen to McCain, and he won't be able to finish out his first term. President Palin will take over. Can we really afford to elect Palin/McCain, with the likelihood that someone with no experience one the world stage would be in charge of our country at this critical point in our history?

This is of course the real power of the Palin choice and also the weakness. Once everyone gets past their surprise McCain picked a women the reality will set in that he kowtowed to the extremists in his party and picked someone WAAAAAAY to the right. There is nothing moderate about Sarah Palin. Most of her views are extreme right wing.

I guess the guy below forgot all about WACO.

MoisesFg:

Lewis,

The republican party is the representation of the most ugly things that happens to our great country today. Unless you are a millionaire or own oil wells I do not see the point in your comments.

MoisesFg
Fort Lauderdale, Florida

August 29, 2008 4:57 PM | Report Offensive Comments

John H. Be very careful telling me you have been where I am. You have no idea where I have been, suffered ( or not) or learned ( or not). Those who do not believe in religion ( just to let you in, I have been agnostic - a non-position, and atheist - you know, those guys who know God better than anyone?) and Prostestant, and am now Roman Catholic. Free choice, ya, know. It's up to me to make my own mistakes - I don't want help doing it, and only need God's help to recover from them.

I pray for you and all like you, that your time in Purgatory will be short. BUT as to the message of the day, "Ther ain't not Falin' with McCain/Palin.

Wow.

Maybe she was the most qualified candidate that would accept. I wonder if she can spell "potatoe".

You GOTTA BE KIDDING ME! WOW, doe's McCain actually think America is going to buy his horse and pony show? He might as well as throw in the towel now and concede the run for the White House to Obama right now.
Here's further proof that the Republicans have no "Ace-in-the-hole" candidate, and that most who supported Bush policies all have blood on their hands. These bloodstains cannot be washed away...not even by a Christian conservative. Using the lords name as a shield, to reach the White House is a strategy that will no longer work, even on those with the weakest minds. There are over 4,200 US soldiers killed in this unjust and illegal war. God will not shield those responsible for this crime. Real Christians see right through McCains "last-ditch" efforts, and reject him for taking part in such a low-brow insulting effort.

"I'll eat my aging cat with curry sauce."

eeyeww marc- you better salt that stringy meat down.

i live in the south and loads (and i mean every lifelongdemocrat i know) will be voting for mccainthis year. they view his record as acceptable (mccain is friends with the democrats in the senate that they've loved for years) and absolutely disdain obama. these are older voters and they really really don't trust him.

bon appetite!

Just the fact that so many folks on this discussion thread are making such crude remarks about Palin probably means that they realize what a brillant selection McCain made. It great to see how this has really sucked the air out of the Obama gas bag in such a short period of time. Now the real fun begins.

It saddess me to see Hillary Clinton supporters turn their back on the democratic party. Let us not be sour losers and do what's right for this country. We shouldn't vote for Palin because she shares our same sex organs. We supported Hillary not only because she was a woman but because she stood for what we believed in. This woman is the complete opposite from Hillary, she is pro life, against gay marriage, supports drilling in the Alaska wildlife refuge...Hillary was a strong leader that shouldn't be compared to Mrs. Palin.
I'd rather a man be in office that will fight for my rights than a woman that will do nothing for me.

In all honestly if we took a time to research Obama, one would notice he's agenda is exactly that of Hillary's and Joe Biden has done more for women's right then mccain or palin ever has or will for that matter.

let us vote for the person right for the job not who's personality we enjoy more.

Marvin with a resume' like that you are only proving my point.

In the beginning, I put to death an ancient universe to make room for the creation of our young universe. And it was good.

This universe violently created and spread matter throughout it's cosmos, condensed into galaxies, solar systems, and orbs of mass, one of which, you know as Earth.
And it was good.

Conditions of the placement of Earth allowed energy to condense into individual beings, eventually creating you, Man.
And it was good.

Man developed a sense of awareness, importance and wonder and created God in his own image. Then, another man created God in his own image. Then, another. And another. Then, one Man killed another Man over his presumption of God.
And it was bad.

Bruce, I think your comments are without fundamental and base just in your emotions, your opinion express anger.

When I read those comments, I think about the 50's and 60's when you couldn't express what you wanted even if you have common sense, because as soon as you opened you mouth the FBI was conducting and investigation on you and you might be called Communist.

Now the Good LORD, made a dream come reality, all men and women are EQUAL and we have a decent human being who happens to be African American, for whom some Greater than You and me Die and forgive his sins, Please read John 3:16 ( I assume you believe in GOD since you mention his enemy) Please remember, that we you talk bad about one of GOD Children, you are offending HIM

I Pray for THE LORD, to give you peace on mind and love in your heart because of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

GOD bless the Whole World

PALIN AND HER HUSBAND BOTH WORK FOR AND REPRESENT THE OIL COMPANIES.

GOOGLE THEM BOTH AND IT'S ALL THERE IN THE NEWS IN BLACK AND WHITE.

AND THAT SEEMS TO JUST GO UNNOTICED. I DON'T GET IT. IS ANY ONE ELSE OUT THERE HAVING A HARD TIME PAYING FOR THE GAS JUST TO GET TO WORK?

I'M AMAZED AT THIS CHOICE. AND SHOCKED THAT THE PEOPLE WOULD EVEN CONSIDER IT FOR A SECOND.

That about sums it up

This woman supports teaching creationism in the schools, she wants to tear up the Alaskan wilderness, and she has absolutely no experience whatsoever. And she is a heartbeat away from the presidency? This is an unbelievably bad choice. I'm switching to Obama as of today. McCain is just too much of a risk.

Yup this race is over! Thanks for playing..

Obama by a landslide..

Jen

The Clinton's are bye bye Miss American pie...

I LIKE TO WRITE IN ALL CAPS SO PEOPLE WILL LISTEN TO ME!

lets face it people, we are a nation divided. and the sooner us rational people can divide from you fairy tale loving nutjobs the better.

You mean you find is crazy that when we die pappa wil take us all into his big house and love us and hug us. And we can live forever with family members we can't stand?

Melanie Strong,
Are you kidding me, there has NEVER been a African American or Partially African American candidate come this close for president and you think that has NOTHING TO DO RACE??? Do you really think that it is a coincidence that every so-called qualified person to be President up to this point has been white? So there is no one of any other ethnicity that could have been qualified to run the country? (Obviously some of past and present Presidents were not qualified either)

There are some people that voted for Barack because he was black but there were plenty more that voted against him for the same reason regardless of whether they will outright admit it or not. All these years white people voted for white candidates period that is why we have only had white presidents. Do you really expect African Americans to vote for a man that voted against MLK Holiday for 16 years. All MLK and African Americans wanted was equality and McCain voted against this holiday many times. There are people on this website calling Obama fags and all kinds of names and he has never done anything to any of these people. And this is suppose to be a Christian site. That goes to the maturity of people, and they will probably be the same ones that will need healthcare, or government foreclosure assistance or many of the other things he is working to help people on. John McCain voted against raising minimum wage numerous times, yet he has 7 homes and you feel that he is there for you, yeah right. I don't need to look at procapita reports, I can look in the mirror...

"civil war now. :
lets face it people, we are a nation divided. and the sooner us rational people can divide from you fairy tale loving nutjobs the better."

Bill Ayers- is that you again??

Read the Constitution about no religious test for holding office. Once again McCain played Dobson and Robertson's choice.

Republican John, you are making a wise choice. McCain is sucking up to extremists and putting someone with zero experience and questionable judgment a heart beat away. And he's 72. That is irresponsible beyond words. A patriot? or an opportunist.......

Everyone that thinks Barack does not know how many states there are in the US are probably the same ones forwarding the emails saying he is a muslim. A bunch of uneducated pathetic nitwits. Put your education up next to Baracks and see who most likely would know how many states there are in the US. Don't make yourselves look foolish by starting another baseless rumor.

all you self righteous,rich, white hypocrite conservatives....time for damage control ! start saying what a great choice she is! a true conservative ! lookout obama ! Hah!
you're gonna lose this election now, you prejudiced, warmongering elitist cowards.

That's the typical GOP candidate for you- always sucking up to the wingnut base that lives in fear.

But this isn't 2004. This time around, Americans have seen the Republicans trash the country for eight years, and they are sick of it. There aren't enough whackos to outvote the rational, decent Americans out there, and this is why Mc Goo is going to get hammered.

Obama/Biden '08!

Responses are slowing down. Guess everyone is leaving work.

Get in those cars and go home

Biden is going to slay her in the VP debates! I saw her being interviewed regarding "Troopergate" and she sounded like she was giving her student council speech. COOL.

"Biden is going to slay her in the VP debates!"

Bad idea. Thankfully Biden is savvy enough not to sacrifice his longtime political career on the altar of Obama's presidential dreams.

McCain just LOST THE ELECTION!

American won't vote for someone who they never heard of to be one heartbeat from the presidency.

Reading some of these comments I see that many Americans are still clueless. You never heard of this woman and now you LOVE her, support her and will swallow it hook, line and sinker.

This woman supports offshore drilling in Alaska, is under investigation by the state ethics committee, and is known as a neocon lapdog.

Thanks, grandpa, you just threw away the election and the republican party for the next 20 years.

Pander much?

Grandpa McCain just made an unknown "hockey mom" his choice to be next in line after he dies.

America will never vote for this ticket.

Pro life, pro oil, pro neocon.

I like her! Alot! But I'm still a R voting for Obama because I believe he will actually do what he says about compromise and working together on things all Americans care about. The GOP candidates seems to just puppets with the strings getting pulled by the same people who have had reign over these past disastrous years. I guess I'm still burned about how the whole "compassionate conservative" thing played out. Fool me once, you know the rest. Obamacan for Obama!

Anonymous writes
"I'll eat my aging cat with curry sauce."
eeyeww marc- you better salt that stringy meat down."

Hey, I make a mean curry! Cooked in yogurt and cream, with lots of garlic, ginger, cumin, corieander and tumeric, even the toughest mean is good.

"i live in the south"

Me too - been in North Carolina since 88. Republicans have been taking a solid South in every election since 1980. Obama is far better organized than McCain. Here in NC the Rebublicans have just opened 3 offices. Obama has had at least 12 campaign offices since before the primary and they are very active. Many Southern Christians are totally against women being in leadership positions (look up the Southern Baptist Convention sometime).

"and loads (and i mean every lifelongdemocrat i know) will be voting for mccainthis year."

They might not vote for Obama, but I also wonder how many will want to spend $5 in gas to support McCain.

" and absolutely disdain obama. these are older voters and they really really don't trust him"

Yeah I know some people over 70 who have trouble with Obama, pretty much over his race. I think the overwealming turnout among African Americans might carry theday, or at least force McCain to spend millions to defend "safe" states.

BTW, somebody commented that McCain was staring at Palin's rear. I was just watching a replay and McCain does make many lenthy, appreciative stares at Palin's bottom while she speaks. When that gets properly edited and put on Youtube, Cindy might be tossing some frying pans McCains way!

I just googled

Bill Ayers

-Leader of the 1960s and 70s domestic terrorist group Weatherman
-"Kill all the rich people. ... Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents."
-Participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972
-Currently a professor of education at the University of Illinois

Born in 1944, Bill Ayers, along with his wife Bernardine Dohrn, was a 1960s leader of the homegrown terrorist group Weatherman, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society. Characterizing Weatherman as "an American Red Army," Ayers summed up the organization's ideology as follows: "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents."

In his 2001 screed, Fugitive Days, Ayers recounts his life as a Sixties radical, his tenure as a Weatherman lieutenant, his terrorist campaign across America, and his enduring hatred for for the United States. "What a country," Ayers said in 2001. "It makes me want to puke."

Ayers was an active participant in Weatherman's 1969 "Days of Rage" riots in Chicago, where nearly 300 members of the organization employed guerrilla-style tactics to viciously attack police officers and civilians alike, and to destroy massive amounts of property via vandalism and arson; their objective was to further spread their anti-war, anti-American message. Reminiscing on those riots, Ayers says pridefully: "We'd ... proven that it was possible -- we didn't all die, we were still there."

A substantial portion of Ayers' book Fugitive Days discusses the author's penchant for building and deploying explosives. Ayers boasts that he "participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972." Of the day he bombed the Pentagon, Ayers says, "Everything was absolutely ideal. ... The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them."

On another occasion, Ayers stated: "There's something about a good bomb … Night after night, day after day, each majestic scene I witnessed was so terrible and so unexpected that no city would ever again stand innocently fixed in my mind. Big buildings and wide streets, cement and steel were no longer permanent. They, too, were fragile and destructible. A torch, a bomb, a strong enough wind, and they, too, would come undone or get knocked down."

All told, Ayers and Weatherman were responsible for 30 bombings aimed at destroying the defense and security infrastructures of the U.S. "I don't regret setting bombs, said Ayers in 2001, "I feel we didn't do enough."

In 1970, Ayers' then-girlfriend Diana Oughton, along with Weatherman members Terry Robbins and Ted Gold, were killed when a bomb they were constructing exploded unexpectedly. That bomb had been intended for detonation at a dance that was to be attended by army soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plan been successfully executed. Ayers attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, "tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too."

After the death of his girlfriend, Ayers and his current wife, Bernardine Dohrn, spent the 1970s as fugitives running from the FBI. In 1980 the two surrendered, but all charges against them were dropped due to an "improper surveillance" technicality. Ayers' comment on his life, as reported by Peter Collier and David Horowitz in their authoritative chapter on Weatherman in Destructive Generation, is this: "Guilty as sin, free as a bird, America is a great country."

Notwithstanding his violent past, Ayers today does not describe himself as a terrorist. "Terrorists destroy randomly," he reasons, "while our actions bore ... the precise stamp of a cut diamond. Terrorists intimidate, while we aimed only to educate."

In Fugitive Days, Ayers reflects on whether or not he might use bombs against the U.S. in the future. "I can't imagine entirely dismissing the possibility," he writes.

In the mid-1990s, Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn hosted meetings at their Chicago home to introduce BARACK OBAMA to their neighbors during his first run for the Illinois Senate.

In 1999 Ayers joined the Woods Fund of Chicago, where he served as a director alongside BARACK OBAMA until the latter left the Woods board in December 2002. Ayers went on to become Woods' Chairman of the Board. In 2002 the Woods Fund made a grant to Northwestern University Law School's Children and Family Justice Center, where Ayers' wife, Bernardine Dohrn, was employed.

awww hell...why did he go and do that? hows the hell we gonna beat them damn liberals now? shoot, what we need is another george wallace to teach these socialist, n***er lovin, tax and spend sons of b's a lesson. I sure am gonna miss the george and dick show.

haha. she has a retard kid.

maybe we will have the first retard in the white house. oh wait, forgot about gw.

LOL

I cannot believe this

The choice wasn't about courting womean. It was about sealing the deal for the evangelicals. They come out in droves to support their causes. They had reason to doubt before. Now they do not.

If you recall, their turnout helped Bush against all odds and left the media scratching their collective heads. Will be the same this time.

How is my hair look guys?

This just in from Rueters:
Obama and Biden have announced a victory party for tonight. The event will be held somewhere in Alaska.

WOW-

Obama's childhood mentor Frank Davis friend of his white grandfather.

His twenty plus year spiritual mentor Jeremiah Wright.

His friends and neighbors Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.

Even his wife Michelle...

Barack Obama has spent his life surrounded by Haters of America and Americans.

does this mean i get to keep my guns?

Republicans must have been inspired by McCain's decision. Rove is already promoting Governor Palin of Alaska to the media. A lot of us Democrats thought of Geraldine Ferro who was the Democratic Nominee for the Vice President with Democratic Presidential candidate Walter Mondale back in 1984. Geraldine Ferro is the complete opposite of Governor Palin of Alaska on the issues. Geraldine Ferro was a pioneer that made it possible for Hillary to run this year and almost win. Hillary Clinton on the issues is the complete opposite of Governor Palin of Alaska. In the media the Republican strategists are trying to paint Joe Biden as what in contrast with Sarah Palin? They should know better. His mom also taught him about honor and decency which is lacking in the relentless Republican attack ads.

Sarah has enough on her plate already. Mitt and Rudy tripped over McCain's 7 houses. I'm sure that Sarah will find a answer to McCain's Seven Houses? Of course he already helped her by stating that he only lived in Four. Recently McCain stated that the economy was fine. I just went to the store and cooking oil double in price. The issues are so much more with clear contrasts between the Democrat and the Republican party.

With Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska McCain has run to the right. Classic Rove trademark that won him two Bush terms. We respect Gov. Sarah Palin. Congratulations to John for picking her. But this race is still about the issues.

McCain has supported Bush over 90 percent of the time. This election cycle Writer Steve Benen has already documented 75 flip – flops by McCain running for President.

Jukebox John keeps changing his tune by Steve Benden – McCain now up to 75 flip – flops
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops

The issues are what the voters care about. The Democrats will show the contrast between both Parties and the Candidates Obama and McCain.

The real debate will be between Obama and McCain.

What a pathetic and transparently pandering choice. She's Dan Quayle in an empty pants suit.

Obama/Biden, Al Gore, Bill Richardson, Susan Eisenhower and 80,000 supporters energized and inspired us watching them on TV. Yes we Can!

Democrats and Obamacans courting all Republican and Independent voters -

The Chantay's - Pipeline (Lawrence Welk Show)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09C8clJaXo

Dean Martin & John Wayne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd5xBDdG9UI

Elvis Presley - Love Me Tender
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZBUb0ElnNY

Matthew 7:7

Obamacan's - “The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry.” William F. Buckley, Jr. quote

Vote Obama/Biden '08

what is all this about a woman v.p.? no way man, nooo way. go bake some cookies honey, stay the hell out of politics. seriously.

RD says:
" she is both an environmentalist and ..."

Say what? Check this out:

"Last week, Palin’s administration announced plans to pay a $150 'incentive' (a.k.a. bounty) for each wolf killed in specified management areas - provided that shooters turn in the dismembered leg of each wolf they kill.

If this doesn’t produce the results they want, she’ll allow state officials to use helicopters to track down and kill wolves. Given the speed and efficiency of helicopters this action could very well boost the numbers of wolves killed."

Some environmentalist!

All I see from the libs here are catch phrases and slogans, no actual points being made. I saw a few hippies mention destroying Alaskan wilderness, which just proves you know nothing about ANWAR and just want to spit back what you've been fed by the media. Palin is going to destroy the Dems.

Dead wolves mean our planet will overheat AMIRITE???

Wolves are not the environment, numbnut.

Oh McCain! Just pick someone to please the Evangelicals?

Amen. God help us and our country! When are the Evangelicals going to learn how to vote and not only look at abortion and gay issues? Didn't Jesus say many times that we need to help the poor brothers/sisters,...? He didn't ask people if they are gays or sinners before He helped them. He also told us not to judge others! We are not God and have no right to judge others.

The Evangelicals voted to have Bush twice and isn't it bad enough for the country???

And you people called me stupid.

I really didn't want to vote for Obama. I thought McCain was the better choice. I could live with his being a Republican. But his pick of Palin seems to be his way of distancing himself from the RINO label, and embracing the religious right even tighter. Thus, my vote will be for Obama. Sorry, John, I liked you. But someone who apparently isn't merely against abortion personally, but doesn't believe in any abortion rights, and who agrees with teaching creationism, goes against anything I could vote for. I hope the Talibangelicals get slapped silly in November with an Obama win.

It's over for McCain this election. It's so sad that his choice is geared, not to intelligently bring this nation back on its feet, but rather a cheap ineffectual ploy to simply get elected. Again his poor judgement once again shines through. The "Songbird", as he was nicknamed by his fellow POW's, all pretty much feel that he should not be that close to the "RED BUTTON".
It's clear he sees the world through the prism of of a PSTD combat warrior and the world as the grand theater of operation. In his view, getting elected is tantamount to a promotion over all armed forces. His view of the world is a military one. We have generals and admirals well schooled in the art of warfare, ready to be called upon by the President,at any time. The President of the United States is not elected for the very singular purpose of waging war. If that were the case we would be electing a General this election cycle. We need a president with perspective and exceptionally good judgement. One that can balance a much needed domestic agenda as well as recognize how and when to use the most powerful destructive force on the face of the earth, the the United States Armed Forces. John McCain is clearly detrimental to America. His mentality would reinstate the draft and shift America to an even greater war footing. If you would like a 1933 Germany, McCain's your boy. Keep in mind, thoughts create. You create what you fear. The politics of fear have worked well for the Nazi's, as well as the republican party.It's time to end that ploy. America, do not buy into fear. Keep in mind it was a Democrat, FDR who uplifted our nation to the tune of winning 4 presidential elections. Why? because he cared about the common man. Thank FDR for social security and a host of other much needed programs which put and kept America going strong. Thank God Bush and Cheney were not on the scene back then. No Social Security, No unemployment benefits, No Veterans
Hospitals,not to mention they may have lost ww2 while completely drenching themselves in riches.
We are at a crossroad today. Nixon,Bush,Cheney and McCain or FDR, Kennedy and Lincoln. This election is a no brainer! The people who would vote for McCain/Palin, need their children drafted and used as cannon fodder in the hope that this faulty gene pool could at least be diminished. Only a complete ignoramous could vote for further beatings. We need an America with vision,compassion and hope. Christ or Darth Vader choose your destiny.

When did being a lifelong member of the NRA become a qualification that was appealing to the evangelicals?

Seriously, is owning a gun that important to Christians? The logic (or lack thereof) is scary.

Hey Alaskan,

only slogans? catch phrases? We know Palin and her husband are in the pockets of big oil. Every economist, (and McCain himself) acknowledge that immediate drilling might (key word there big guy) save us a few pennies a gallon in about 10 years.

This acknowledges the main point by Barack's campaign. Nobody wants the same ole sh t . The stuck in the 80s and 90s thinking of right wingers will get the whole country in deeper crap.

How can ANY christian support an unindicted criminal abuser of official office and power for ANYTHIONG... Let alone VP of the US!?!

This woman pressured and then fired a good man - a chief of police - who refused to break the law and fire her sister's ex husband from his job as a state trooper because it was ILLEGAL TO DO SO!

..Then McCain picks the unindicted criminal for VP- a 70yr old heartbeat-away from the oval office - and the NEO-CON evangelicals cheer.

Christians are not supposed to be criminals even if they are forgiven!

Why do I suspect Godly Christians will be apalled when they learn the truth about Palin?

McCain's decision provides insight into his Presidential perspective, as does his generosity in congratulating Obama last night.

Palin demonstrates a commitment to the values woven through American culture especially the need for reform -- a true son of Teddy Roosevelt, Fightin Bob LaFollette and that earlier generation of reform Republicans.

Palin also gives hope to those pro-life Catholics the Dems drove out of the party and Reagan welcomed into the GOP.

I was not looking at that woman's rear end while she was at the podium today. The liberal media did something to the video to make my eyes look in the direction of body. I love my wife and would never pick some chick as a vice president just cause she's hot looking, and I'm desperate for votes. I want to be clear about that.
Her breasts and the long legs that lead up to her round bottom had absolutely nothing to do with my decision on picking a hot looking, bimbo who likes moose stew and guns.

Melanie Strong says:
"You need to look up the words procapita."

Ummmm, that might be hard to do since it's only one word and an entirely imaginary one.

10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don't):

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1

2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."2

3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3

4. McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."4

5. The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.5

6. He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.6

7. Many of McCain's fellow Republican senators say he's too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."7

8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8

9. McCain has sought closer ties to the
extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."9

10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10

Tom says:
"Does anyone pay attention to the last name of democratic candidates :
"Obama Biden" is very close to:
"Osama bin Ladin"
if change "b" to "s" and drop few words."

Now there's a really relevant issue on which to base an intelligent vote.

And he can't even write a coherent sentence.

Sarah Palin - What are her qualifications? She has more experience than BO. That alone makes her qualified.

Found a free & cool campaign graphic download at http://www.geocities.com/cons_piracy_08/ .

I just want to say that I respect John McCain for choosing Governer Palin as his running mate. I've read some of the comments posted here about his choice of of an attractive white woman as his V.P.
And to this I say: What's wrong with that? She looks fine to me. Real fine as a matter of fact.
As a black man, I can appreciate a fine looking white woman working for me, taking care of my business and handling my...well, I digress.
John, you are the man.

Barrack, thank you for your post.
I knew if anyone could appreciate this chick as a V.P., it would be you. Did you see the way I was checking her out when she was speaking? Damn ! Let me tell you brother, baby got back!
Listen B, holler back later on. We can't trust this site. I got some pics from cell phone I want to send you.

Peace out,
John

Allright J-Money, I'm a give you a shout later on.

Keep it real,
B-Dog

Anybody seen the movie "Hustle and Flow."
Terrance Howard was nominated for Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role
for: Hustle & Flow (2005)
McCain has Terrance beat by a long shot. After Mrs. Palin's speech they might as well played the theme song "It's hard out here for a pimp." Mrs Palin and women are being used.. period.
Woman deserve better treatment and need to be respected, not used.

Papa Ray of west Texas posted @ August 29, 2008 2:59 PM
“I know that I will have to vote for Sarah after I tell my Sweet Sarah (my granddaughter) that a lady with the same name as her is going to be our Next Vice President of these United States.”

Hummm! I guess if you need a lame reason to support Senator McCain this is as silly as anyone could imagine.

Why would Newsweek/WashPost begin the article with the statement about Gene Weingarten's criticism (masquerading as critique)? Would it be the Post's objectivity or their sense of professionalism insulating them from bias? What does that "introduction" have to do with the rest of the article?

Sarah Palin did not abort her child even if she knew beforehand that the child has Down Syndrome. What a character.

Pam, on the other hand, told us she aborted or exterminated her dogs because of slight imperfection.

I hope the liberal left can see what kind of character they have. It's DARKER THAN BLACK.

what the hell is going on? where am I? who's this chick sarah? a black man in the white house? i'm going back to sleep.

Stan O posted @ August 29, 2008 3:25 PM
“She's a good choice in that conservatives now have a higher comfort level with McCain. This clear out some of the apathy many conservatives feel about McCain and actually get them to the polls to vote.”

If Governor Palin gives conservative republicans a higher level of comfort with Senator McCain he is in big trouble with GOP voters!!!

I was fairly impressed with McCain even though his TV ads were quite dishonest and his nose-hairs quite distracting. This cheap attempt to attract the "must have a woman in the White House" crowd, is an INSULT. O'Bama '08.

McCain tried to please our "modern high priests" who are ready to crucify even Jesus again if He comes back here and doesn't agree with them on abortion or gay union issues.

No wonder that many, many of us run away from the churches since they called themselves Christian leaders but not living with what Jesus taught or just chose some items to fit them for money and power!! We don't want to go to the same "heaven" with these haters.

To the comedians out there making false posts using Obama, McCain and Reagan's names, this is not a joke!
Politics is serious buisness, and we don't want or need people who think it's a joke to post in this forum.
There is nothing amusing about political debate. Mr.Obama and Mr.McCain are trying to stick with the issues and work on solving America's problems and we don't need your absurd comments poking fun at this process.

Aaron posted :
“If she's supposed to attract Clinton PUMA voters, McCain might”

Clinton PUMA voters is hype and a myth created by rove and the liberal MSM, it’s laughable.

Lee posted:
This Catholic is voting for McCain. Pope John Paul always says defend life of the unborn child.

Who’s defending 4400 dead service men and women?

Mr. Administrator,

I thank you for bringing the sanity back to this forum. All this talk about womens butt's and blackey versus whitey has no place in a political forum.

Barack Obama

Mr. Administrator,

Ditto.

John McCain

what?

I was a Hillary supporter, until she knuckled under and endorsed that fraud Obama, despite knowing what he is. She put her political career and that pathetic Democratic Party ahead of her country. Even if Obama had picked her as his vp, I would not have voted for him, although I would have gladly voted for her as president, before she endorsed him. Now she has proven to be a political coward, I will never vote for her, not in 2012, not ever. DEMOCRATS4MCCAIN/PALIN!

He gives TRUE meaning to McSAME.

Palin is being GROOMED for the NEXT election!!!!!
Keep your eyes glued on her, DOGG!!!

Following her response to a foreign policy question during the Vice-Presidential debates, the race will be OVER!!!!!!!!

The next chief Republican strategy is going to be to pit men vs. women.

testing

I think Obama should divorce his wife and marry a white woman, pronto.
Let's see McCain top that!

test

The fact the James Dobson, upon learning the news had some sort of revelation or orgasm--redundant for Evangelicals, should inspire the Obamaites to heroic efforts to end this reign of error the last eight years.

Love all these paid RNC bloggers claiming to be democratic or progressive women who will now vote for McCain. Please, don't insult our intelligence. Nobody believes it for a second. Let's see some poll results about how those voters are affected by this. They'd rather have no woman at all in office than an inexperienced, anti-choice right-wing lapdog. This was a absolutely toxic choice for McCain and I've heard from a friend whose father is an lifelong Republican that this is it, he won't be voting for McCain.

Just more science fiction pablum to feed the masses...what a joke..

Haven't had a chance to truly learn much about the VP choice yet, but given what I've heard. . .

It certainly makes more sense that Obama's choice. How exactly does Joe Biden signify change? Is he suddenly going to stop voting for legislation being pushed by his high power lobbyist son? Maybe Obama has been impressed by the sweeping changes brought about by the Joe Biden/democratic controlled Congress lately? (And by sweeping changes, I mean passing legislation that has absolutely no impact on anything)

At some point, Obama's beautiful and energetic orations will become stale and repetitive and people will search for true answers. At that point, Mr. Obama will be exposed for the Warren Harding clone that he is and the voters will leave in droves.

She's no mother. A mother with a 4 month old that has Down's syndrome doesn't have the time to run a state, much less our country.

http://www.poketee.com/john-mccain-and-sarah-palin-tee-shirt.html

Most of the people posting here are stinky trash of low class, period!

The GOP and the Dems are, as far as I can see, equally craven. Obama picked Biden, an old school money driven player to help him gain legitimacy, and McCain picked Palin because she helps his image with evangelicals and women.

There is no integrity in either of these choices, just as there is no integrity in our (rigged) national elections.

Is Palin a good choice for McCain politically? It's too soon to say. At this point all comments and articles are speculative.

The thing about the liberal left is they know when the right are stimulated they get the vote out and the republicans win. There will be many once they see this women in action aganist old Joe they will be impressed. she stopped the boondoggles in Alaska senators build bridges to no where to bring money into their area.I wonder if she has a list of the number of bridges Biden might have made over 36 years.Once this initial flurry of critism about her qualifications and they see her in action watch out.

The thing about the liberal left is they know when the right are stimulated they get the vote out and the republicans win. There will be many once they see this women in action aganist old Joe they will be impressed. she stopped the boondoggles in Alaska senators build bridges to no where to bring money into their area.I wonder if she has a list of the number of bridges Biden might have made over 36 years.Once this initial flurry of critism about her qualifications and they see her in action watch out.

Palin is a MILF...who wouldnt want her in the white house. or we can look at biden for four years. brilliant move...if the dems loose this...they should grab a spatula and practice...welcome to macdonaldsm can i take your order. and by the way, how the hell is obama going to stop offshoring jobs? that is communism...and 4% unemployment is phenomenal...

"you're voting for Sarah Palin because she has the same name as your granddaughter? How inspiring. How educated. How not suprising." - Can I use your phrases for those naive chicks who support Obama because in their eyes he is good looking and sexy, and many who won't vote for Clinton simply because "she's not beautiful"? Think before you write so it won't backfire on you!

"Pam, on the other hand, told us she aborted or exterminated her dogs because of slight imperfection. "

You lying little sleazeball - I never said anything of the kind, and you know it.

How do you sleep at night?

Oh my. So, she has the endorsement of Richard Land, one of the most unsavory lunkheads in the fairyland known as Evangelical Christianity. The Republican Party has sold it’s soul for a mess of pottage, to borrow a Biblical aphorism, and are busy kicking down the gates of Hell on behalf of “decency” and “rightiousness.”

"There are also sometimes mismatings - "oops" breedings, as in the classified ad that offered puppies whose "mom is a pure-bred Lab, dad is a curly-coated, high-fence jumper."

I haven't had one of those, but there is a "morning-after" injection for such cases, and I would not hesitate to use it."

To be exact- dog breeder Pam said she would destroy pups who had no imperfect other than she is not genetically pleased with them.

Right Pam?

Yes, Sarah! is an inspired choice for both the religious freaks and the dopes. And she is as qualified as George W Bush. That turned out pretty well.

Palin teaches creationism in Alaska schools. Of course evangelicals are excited about one their delusional own denying scientific facts.

amazing! when one considers all the truly important issues facing this country, from the war in iraq to impending economic chaos, the born aginners are fired up by madam palin's firmly held belief that any woman who presumes to take dominion over her own body should be jailed. good god!

mencken once observed that no man ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the american public. mccain is betting he was right.

Great. John McCain learned that you can't win an election without the tight-ass whitey vote. This is proof that the Republican Party is controlled by the religious right. Doesn't matter if he picked a woman or a man as long as the one he picked is against abortion, loves guns, and hates everyone else. Just remember: McCain lost in 2000 because he wouldn't bow to the religious right. Maverick, my ass.

Wow...I didn't know Elaine from Seinfeld was even interested in politics.

Yada, yada, yada...I'm still not voting for McCain.

this 'good christian' is about as good as Dan Quayle...total pandering to the right wing holier than thous in the far right wing.

Oh they don't want universal health care but if by some miracle it comes to pass, they will be the first to sign up and say 'gimme'

That's what these people are all about.

"Wow...I didn't know Elaine from Seinfeld was even interested in politics.

Yada, yada, yada...I'm still not voting for McCain."

O My God that is awesome!

Leave it to a creepy old perv to choose a MILF as his running mate. Watch Bill Clinton beg to sign up for the National Security Advisor job!

The Last Warrior, John McCain’s last calling and Gov. Sarah Palin

“We will win in Iraq war, even I lost this election, and we need to win, not a retreat!”

The Vietnam syndrome haunted a lot Wiseman, scholars, old and new necons, generals and old soldiers. Especially John McCain, a former POW. Hero should win his name and medals in war not in the “Hanoi Hilton Hotel”-a tortured prison camp! Unfortunately McCain, the bravest McCain was the five-year in the prison camp McCain! I understand why McCain does not want to be General. He wants to be President of United States America! The POW history haunted him!
A great possibility is that he wants to clear his POW humiliation. He is warrior!! Like his Grandfather, Father, a real warrior, heroes but never a POW!

I respect Senator McCain. Unfortunately, this time McCain’s opponent is Preacher Barack Obama (PBO)! PBO knows how to talk, talk like Martin Luther King, He can dance, he can preach! He can give you dream: Change! No one cares he can delivers real change or not!

I like John! After the most suffered 8 yr under Mr. Bush’s Administration. Even the former necon Francis Fukuyama declared in Australia it is bad enough! Republican Party does not deserve 4 more years. The majority of Americans feel it, see it! You name it: the choice of the wrong Iraq war, the astronomical deficit- 9 trillion and more to come, recession economy, house bubble and heavy foreclosure, use taxpayer money to reward the wall-street risk taker in the name of too big to fall! Oh!! We never forget the name, Katrina, Katrina! The latest, Russia humiliates us in the Georgia incident. Putin knew we are in post and weak American era! Whose fault? Of course not John McCain’s. But McCain again has to be POW of Bush!

I like John McCain, but not the major media guys in MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NYT, NBC, WASHTINGTON POST…. Including some pundits in FOX AND WSJ. Most of them made a lifetime of mistake, to support Mr. Bush’s Iraq war. Now they need to compensate their mistake, they favor Preacher Obama to save their sins- to sell their souls to Bush, Cheney and the high school kid named Karl Rove! “How stupid! I AM! Save me, feel me Preacher Obama! Please be our President!”

Most the recent poll shows it is a closed race, however the major media guys and pundits do not agree, they thought this year is Democrat, POB year. After POB picked the seasoned and 36 yrs congressman, Joe Biden as his VP, they favor POB even more, some of the pundits may cry privately while POB delivers his acceptance speech in the 84000 people attended Invesco Field of Denver. POB again used his preaching skill, promised to change health care, education, national policy, economy…. etc., you name it, you got it! However how to deliver them, remain to be seen and most of policies are too good to be true! Most pundits love it! The Harvard professor turns Pundits of CNN loved the speech very much too! Masterpieces! The attendees danced and cried! What a show! It was bigger than John F Kennedy in the half –emptied seat in Los Angeles Memorial coliseum in 1960. The night of August 28, 2008. Preacher Obama became GOD in Denver!!

Until the Last warrior of Vietnam, McCain picked a lady from no where, (The pundit said, not me! Lady Palin is very famous in Alaska!), named Sarah Palin, the Governor of Alaska on the date of Aug. 29! This pick first shows Sen McCain who has the quality to be the Commander in Chief of America! To my personal humble opinion, Gov. Palin is self-made legend from grass root. A common good bigger than Sen., Hillary. It is very hard for a female politician survived in the BIG BOYS CLUB in Alaska. In the club,they have the ruthless and steely Uncle Ted, cunning and lofty Frank Murkowski and the more moneyed Tony Knowles. Gov Palin out played them with a reformed agenda and no- corrupted policies (at least until now!) A mother of five came from a grass root and humble family, no Yale and Harvard just Idaho University education. A small town mayor, then Governor, finally the Vice-president of the GOP! Gov. Palin deservers it. If the less experienced and no executive experienced Preacher Obama qualify to be a president! Gov Palin no way, no how not qualify to be a vice-president and just in case of The President of United States!

Now the ball game is totally changed, POB has the good side McCained Joe Biden. The former navy officer has the good side OBAMAED Palin! To my humble opinion, the race from now on is even and slightly favor to Sen. McCain. It is because he uses a very breakthrough strategy, a female and capable, a fresh Washington outsider turns VP to counter the Change of Preacher Obama and most importantly she may rally the 18 millions supporters of Sen. Hillary!

In Chinese military terms: to surprise your opponent and attacked his unprepared weak front! McCain almost out of anyone’s expectation deploys Gov. Palin to the front of the battle, scaring the Democrat, choking the major media, surprising his opponent, Preacher Obama at all!

Congratulation! My dear Commander in Chief, John McCain! In choosing Gov. Palin, this may bring McCain to White house! To me McCain and Palin at least have 51 to 52% chance to beat the 49 to 48% of Obama-Biden ticket in a statistical dead even race!

The fact that the lady from Alaska didn't abort a Downs child entitles her to absolutely nothing. Many of us who support abortion rights would not make a personal choice to abort a Downs child.

In fact, her using this child as an election issue & bringing the child out before cameras shows an essential tackiness & cheapness of character totally unbefitting anyone who claims the name of Christian.

Johnny isn't the first old buck to check me out, and he won't be the last. At least he's well preserved, a hero, and such.

When I get a moment to myself, I like to check around me every now and then. (So, what? It gets cold up here.) But just so nobody worries, I don't care much for soft middles, sagging butts, stringy arms, spindly legs, etc. Maybe it's just me. I don't know.

I like 'em hard in all discernible locations, and that's the gospel. Check out who I'm checking out.

"To be exact- dog breeder Pam said she would destroy pups who had no imperfect other than she is not genetically pleased with them.

Right Pam?"

Wrong, as usual, A__. I would not "destroy pups", but I would prevent an unwanted (by me) pregnancy from ever happening. There's a very large difference. A morning-after shot neither distresses the mother (she doesn't even know anything's happened), nor the "puppies" (they don't have nervous sytems - or much of anything else).

When you breed dogs, the idea is *not* to produce as many misbegotten offspring as you possibly can. It *is* to breed responsibly and produce the best quality, healthiest puppies possible, and no more of them than you need to carry on your lines or can find excellent homes for.

You are a fanatic with a one-track mind.

As a woman, am I supposed to be thrilled or impressed that a woman was picked for VP?

The depth of reasoning behind this pick seems to be 'one skirt is as good as another.'

New World Order 1988. America wanted change after 8 years of Reagan so an 18 point gap developed in the polls. Geo H W Bush and Lloyd Bentsen were known quantities, not much to think about: a career office holder and a silver haired Solon. Dukakis and Quayle were the question marks. Those lips, those eyes; did the light of G-d's understanding shine strong in either's eyes, and who's lips were more carnal? America is a nation of profilers and it's the danger signs America is on the alert for. Whatever his faults (and who doesn't have some) Quayle was bright and lively, his eyes shone and his smile was better than what Dukakis could show. No danger there. In my opinion, Dan Quayle is a dangerous oppressive aggressive maniac devoted to an apocalyptic cult; he manages his appearance, his demeanor, his vocal tone to create a semblance of good which cannot be practically faulted by profilers. Yeah, well duh, f*gs can do that too.
Clerical authority, whether sectarian, ecumenical or secular psych all say seeing is believing. Quayle delivered the win in 1988 following a tired 2 term incumbent.

Creationism taught as science in our children's classrooms just joined the Republican ticket. I'm so ashamed for America.

Wow !! A Washington maverick and a State Reformer.

Now that's change I can believe in

Not only that but a dynamic women

Creates the audacity to hope

Move over Matthews .... I feel a tingle running up my leg

TIRED OF THE WAPO POOPAGANDA AND WANT TO HEAR ABOUT PALIN FROM SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HER? GO HERE:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/what-is-mccain-thinking-one-alaskans-perspective/

heck yeah, so what if mccain has a bunch of houses....obama lives in a million $$$$ house and so does his former pastor wright.....you really think they care about the poor.....yeah.....as long as the $$$$$$$$ keep coming in.....want to live in russia......vote obama!

you can find people who don't like santa claus and santa's mother was no communist... obama keeps saying his momma was a christian from the heartland...Stanley Ann was an atheist and proud of it......kinda like hillary being proud of everything but being a wife to slick willy!

With all these negative posts about Palin from these cool aid drinking socialists I think the DEMs are scared.......what's new!

McCain/Religious Vagina '08

Yippie. Here comes the evangelical '00 '04 disaster again.

Stupid, stupid people.

Diana Wright writes: "In fact, her using this child as an election issue & bringing the child out before cameras shows an essential tackiness & cheapness of character totally unbefitting anyone who claims the name of Christian."

I agree, but you have to admit that that child is the perfect poster kid to represent the Republican party and their supporters.

Mareen said "Shattered Economy"

What shattered economy? It is for the greedy lenders and buyers who wanted something they could not afford. Unemployment is still very low and things aren't easy but who said they were supposed to be? Life is not easy on this side lady, and Obama is not going to make things easier...no matter what his telepromter tells him to say.

Think I am picking on Nobama? List one legislative achievement he had that does not include renaming a post office? You can't can you? Change is nothing. Reform is what we need.

What experience does she have to be President other than pandering to neochristians with creationism, delusional denial of global warming and a record as a shill for big oil?

If there were ever any doubts about McCain's cynicism, hubris, or lust for the Presidency at any cost - here's all the proof you need.

This is truly a hollow man that would lead the nation. Incredibly, half the country supports this joker - and we thought folks were tired of Bush. His mindless legacy lives on in McCain......

she does not chug beer....will never make it to the white house

Diana Wright writes: "In fact, her using this child as an election issue & bringing the child out before cameras shows an essential tackiness & cheapness of character totally unbefitting anyone who claims the name of Christian."

I agree, but you have to admit that that child is the perfect poster kid to represent the Republican party and their supporters.

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Unfortunately, the Democrats are showing their true colors. It's okay for Obama to parade his family around on stage, but it's not okay for Governor Palin to have all of her children with her on such an important day in her life?

Well if you have a problem with Governor Palin loving her down syndrom baby boy as much as she loves her other children, then that's your problem. ButBarack Obama is your man then, because he was not moved when a nurse testified before the Illinois State Senate about a down syndrome baby boy who survived a botched abortion only to struggle for his life for 45 minutes with no one offering medical care to keep him alive. Obama voted against a bill (three times!) that would have granted the right to medical care to babies who had the audacity to survive a botched abortion.

pontificator:" This is truly a hollow man that would lead the nation. Incredibly, half the country supports this joker - and we thought folks were tired of Bush. His mindless legacy lives on in McCain......"

With the sad state of affairs that our country is in and with the imminent fact that the USA may be facing a third world war in the future, you do not want a "novice" at the helm making judgment calls about our entire nations safety.

Obama is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a liar, falsifying his way to fame. There is still a "great deal" of racism prevalent in the United States and Obama and his wife are a part of it as evidenced by their "long term" continual support of the church they were full fledged members of for over 10 years.

Now, are you going to tell me that a so called Harvard educated man couldn’t make the distinction about the church he and his wife supported and were members of for more than a decade was racist?

He has a very questionable background in terrorism, criminal activity, and racism and is not fit to be in a political office period let alone the presidency.

McCain is the better choice and has my vote.

I love how the Evangelicals preach love, respect, and helping thy neighbor but if said neighbor is gay, for pro-choice, or believes in true science over religion in classrooms they don't count. What a contradiction.

Human's are the cancer of the Earth. We consume, destroy, and kill each other. We make up our own Gods and oppress other humans that don't believe in the same God. How many Gods are there anyway? What I don't understand is how so many people lack this simple common sense.

In all the millions of years has there been another species on this Earth who has done more to destroy their own home? Destroy their own species? And make up their own Gods with which to fight, war, and destroy over? Does this really make sense to you? Do you really believe that your God is real but that person's God isn't? I can't even grasp this concept. All humans are is a breading Earth cancer. Like a disease that invades our own bodies.

Get over yourselves. Face the facts. Humans are nothing more then what they've made themselves into in their minds. We're a cancer, a disease of the Earth. Too stupid to even understand that basic fact. Yet they think all life is under them, and their personal Gods are their savors. How can a reasonable, common sense human brain think like this?

It is almost like McCain set out to find a poor, female version of Governor George W Bush.

We have had 8 years of Christian Fundamental Governor from Texas George W Bush in Washington DC. He was a wildly popular governor in Texas before he came to washington and screwed the country up.

Now we have a proposal to send another Christian Fundamentalist Governor from a state even farther out west, also popular in her home state. Some how this poor female version of GW will take us away from the GW administration?

The Democrats are mad because the Republicans have nominated someone with not a lot of qualificiations and experience. That was their idea first! I hear Biden may get a sex change to even things up! Perhaps he won't have to get any more hair transplants when those female hormones kick in.

NE Patriot said "How can a reasonable, common sense human brain think like this?"

You appearently hate both God and your fellow man so you clearly belong in the Democratic Party with the rest of them wanting change but have a problem defining the term.

What do you propose past killing ourselves? If we evolved from rocks (as you seem to believe) and there is no such thing as true good or evil, then what do you care what we do since we are just a happy accident anyway which scientists can't seem to reproduce.

Dormant cancer cells live through the host body and do no harm. They actually work with the body doing normal cell work to help the host body survive. When a cancer cells become active they seek out and destroy a particular areas within the host body. They consume other cells and will even destroy other fellow cancer cells in order to gain a foothold in the area it wants. Once enough cancer cells consume the host body the body dies, killing the very cells that became active and did the initial destroying. It's a cycle that ends it's own self.

When a human is born on it's host body, the Earth, they grow and seek out areas of this host body to consume and use. Many humans are dormant and live on the host body without doing too much harm. Many times they will work with the host body to help other humans grow and survive. When a human becomes active enough though it will seek out areas on the host body and destroy it, destroying other humans in the process. When enough of this happens the host body or it's surrounding bodies will wipe out the infected body's disease and start fresh.

This cycle continues for billions of years. Unless of course the human can figure out how to become airborne. In which case it will seek out other host bodies within it's universe with which to consume and destroy off of. Once the human figures out how to jump from host to host and survive it becomes a serious airborne disease that may never stop. Destroying other humans and other host bodies until there's nothing left to consume and destroy.

Is this really what your God had in mind?

I'm neither Dem or Repub or anything else. I'm a small human who's just watching it's fellow humans act like the disease they are. I'm perfectly okay with that though. I'll live my tiny existence on this Earth, happy and doing my thing. Living my life by my guidelines. Not some God's guidelines. I'm smart enough to understand what's right and wrong. Then I'll die and flicker out like a candle. Like I was never really here, except for the small footprint of consuming and destroying I did on my host body while here. In the grand scheme of things my life, as all human life, won't really matter. I'm fine with that too. What's scary for the rest of the host bodies out there is we've started to become airborne, starting in the 1960's.

to Audacity of Democrats--check your facts. Obama did not vote against providing medical care to babies born alive. That is a smear that has been corrected over and over---some people just don't care to hear the truth. There is a law in Illinois that would have provided the medical care in spite of the legislation, but that legislation was never meant to become law. The provision you are probably referring to was placed into a larger piece of legislation, just for a wedge issue like this. The republicans created that just to be able to say someone voted against this issue. It's misleading and the worst hypocracy---but it works to upset folks who won't check the facts, or choose to think the worst.

People who are against McCain and his VP choice
remind me of a 2 yr old that lost it's sucker. Waaaaaa,sob. If you want a rollercoaster ride in CHANGE--vote for the Ringling Bro,s circus clown,
Obama. He will make you wish for a quick death to get over the hell he is going to CHANGE you with!
Who will be the minority then,sucka!

And this was the one year I thought the Christians, and especially the Evangelicals might really embrace a broader Christian agenda of helping the poor, taking care of the least advantaged and the planet. That was too much to hope for--it's back to a two-note agenda of abortion and fear. That's why, as an Evangelical, I will vote with the Democrats----who more than the Rep. react and behave much more like Jesus teaches. Abortions were down when the Democrats provided education and support for women who chose to bear a child, and put it up for adoption rather than terminate that pregnancy. They went up during the Bush-Cheney years, and would continue to go up under McCain because he will do nothing to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies, or support women who chose to bear that child. The answer is just outlaw abortion. That makes sense. Just as it makes sense to give 90% of the Republican tax breaks to the wealthiest top 2%, and nothing to 100 million working Americans. Republicans, you will need to own that when you have to give an account of what you did while on this earth.

" Jay:

"The Democrats are mad because the Republicans have nominated someone with not a lot of qualificiations and experience."

In which alternate universe does about eighteen months as a governor of Alaska, and dealing with corruption allegations while having another baby count as 'a lot of experience?'

Especially since apparently Obama didn't have enough, not so long ago, and while Republicans don't seem to be considering that Mccain's age and ill health mean that if this ticket were elected, there's a considerable likelihood he wouldn't be able to serve out his whole term.

No, he's hoping to just get the Religious Right vote with his recent panderings, pretend he can steal the Dem's thunder about a 'historic ticket' and point out the Assemblies-of-God-raised 'model conservative Christian woman' oil industry darling as a placeholder for the 'Moral Values' he's not shown, himself.

She's very popular in Alaska, (And who wouldn't be, after the morass of Republican corruption they've had up there in recent years) but she's an empty pantsuit down here, for the most part. Who is she? Does she have a voting record?

Now we need some *substance,* not just telling the radical Right (or letting them believe they're getting) what they want to hear.

This move represents pandering to the 'base,' and little more. We'll see what she has to say for herself, I suppose. But after all the attacks on Obama on the very basis he's supposed to be 'unqualified,' even though more experienced than her, you have to ask, 'Is she really ready to be President,' come down to it?

Not to let a little question like that bother anyone.

NE Patriot, That was impressive response!!! It was almost verbatim from the movie Matrix.

Agent Smith “You move to an area. And you multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Humans beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet...and we are the cure.”

Do you have an original thought yourself? So I have my Bible and you have yours. Yours just happens to be called the Sci-Fi Channel.

PaganPlace,

Please list one legislative accomplishment of Nobama besides the renaming of a post office that qualifies him for anything????

Don't rant about Bush. Just answer the question.

Holy crap, another evangelical nut! We've been patient for eight years with these idiiiotic people. ENOUGH! NO MORE.

The Flintstones were not historical fact!!!

Maybe her light experience would be forgivable if she had compelling ideas, and was more than a pretty face and empty pantsuit waiting to be told what she thinks about the issues.

But to not even have an opinion or stance on major issues- that is not only unforgivable- it is terrifying for one that may be a heart attack away from the presidency.

Frightenong and irresponsible.

Out of 22 listed issues- Palin has
NO ISSUE STANCE YET RECORDED on 10 of them.
And 2 of the are the same opinion.


Here is her opinion on both abortion AND Civil Rights _(its the same opinion)
"I am pro-life and I believe that marriage should only be between and man and a woman. I am opposed to any expansion of gambling in Alaska."

Is it too much to expect her to think of a different opinion for Civil rights?

Education? Fully fund K-12 and support funding of early education.

Stance on crime?
Fully fund the death penalty.
That's comprehensive.
Not at all like the lifelong committment to police officers anf firefighters deomonstrated by Biden.

And no opinion at all on Iraq, or, as she said last year- she has no interest in Iraq.
But she has a son who is going to be deployed in 2 weeks- and signed up a year ago-

Any mother whose son was headed there would at the very least have an INTEREST in the subject, let alone a politician.

Doesn't one have to have at the very least an interest in the issues to be able to reform?

Well, McCain has only met her once- so in a short time we'll see if the bloom fades on the rose in this arranged marriage.

So, folks, look at her stances on issues(although half are empty- and the imprtant issues we face arent even listed)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Sarah_Palin.htm

Jay- the most comprehensive and sweeping ethics reform bill to hit Washington, which is what propelled him to the forefront.

I never saw the whole Matrix movie but that line actually makes a lot of sense. Seems like I'm not the only one who making the correlation here.

To me our virus like nature sounds a lot more viable then believing that a human walked on water, healed the sick with a wave of his magic hand, and turned water into wine. In all of human existence I've never seen another human do such things. I've seen viruses destroy bodies many times. Sounds a lot more natural to me as well. Like I said, I'm okay with that.

What I'm not okay with is having someone who believes their views and personal choices should be forced into my life to the point where I can't make my own decision to get an abortion if needed, marry someone of my own sex if I wanted, or have my child taught the truth in current science rather then stories of magic in a book written thousands of years go by other humans.

Common sense tells me that one seems more viable then the other. Is your God story right? But the Jewish guys God story wrong? Why is that? Because it's you and not him? That makes a whole lot of sense. Human narcissism is what I see.

You misjudge Sarah Palin because you are unfamiliar with Alaska.

She grew up in Alaska with its extremes of seasons and had no problem getting up past midnight to hunt with her dad and then making a full day of school and competitive sports after.

She took down the "good old boys" of her own party in Alaska, while raising four children and pregnant with her fifth child.

Just because she has managed to do all this And retain a youthful appearance does not mean she's a fluffy do-nothing.

Sarah Palin is smart as a fox and as tough as steel. Watch her and see.

Yes- Palin has limited executive experience- but she has an impressive number of accomplishments in her short political career. She will make an able VPOTUS.

Just compare her to the Democratic candidate. Obama has no executive experience and has spent the bulk of his years as a Senator not legislating- but running for POTUS. He has no place in the White House until he can show us substantial work and quits hanging out with the anti-American crowd.

He gives a good speech as long as someone else wrote it for him. Without a script- he can barely manage a full sentence without pausing and saying uh..uh.. And he still can't handled himself in a public role. This is a no-no:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bdl-wXB9do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMqrc3k4kPQ

" Jay:

"PaganPlace,

Please list one legislative accomplishment of Nobama besides the renaming of a post office that qualifies him for anything???? "

Just one?

Keeping his soul? :) Not waiting for a majority, or a 'veto-proof' one to stand on the principles that inform at least half of this nation?

Or you want something more concrete, of a sudden, right?

Opposing this disastrous, ill-advised, and terribly-executed war.

That's up there.

And, no, she doesn't have sufficient experience. I'm sure she's a very admirable woman. The fact she's had the means to have five kids and get into office on the heels of a major period of Republican scandal and screwup by being 'just folks' and religiously-correct doesn't mean she has any rights or equality in mind for the *little guy, (or gal, in this case,) either.

She's one of the few who have been rewarded for right-wing 'religious correctness,' and has *no* history as a public policymaker for America, never mind real executive experience.

This is probably just McCain's way of trying to a) steal the thunder of the historic Democratic ticket with a false image of 'feminism,' (ie, obey the Fundies' dictates and maybe you'll be rewarded by the oil industry to prevent the real change regular folks so desperately need) ...and b) hope for a 'single issue' campaign based on a 'Just Say No' approach to anything involving the abortion issue. Have lots of puppies. Someone with a private plane can afford to.

(Yes, I realize that planes are more practical in Alaska, that doesn't mean everyone *gets* one. )

Palin is Cheney on steroids, period. Palin is the sort of "true believer" who thinks public schools should force kids to learn creationism and believes women should be forced to raise the children of the men who rape them. She has already demonstrated she is happy to abuse her power. On taxation, she prefers to shift the cost of government from the well off to the working class (she cut property taxes and raise sales taxes as mayor). A "President Palin" would be much worse than four more years of Bush policies. The 30 Years War was started by "True Believers", people who thought they needed to fight a war to protect the Church. In the end near 1/2 the population of Germany was dead, and Spain forever lost it's status as a Great European power.

McCain/Palin is a horrible ticket. Experience doesn't enter into it, character does. McCain is willing to play craps, gambling the future of the USA on a running mate he neither knows or agrees with on issues.

Of course the media that treated Senator Clinton terribly will be nice to Palin, cause anytime she's critisized she'll no doubt play her "mommy card" to justify any outragous thing she says or any illegal thing she does.

OBAM-UH IS NOT READY FOR THE WHITE HOUSE-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNdO8Nl_x-o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThEAO0lt4Dw

What is really astonishing is how quickly republicans are rolling over on their backs and basically abandoning McCain in favor of this totally unknown variable.

While I was excited about Biden's nomination, I didn't enthusiastically jump off the Obama boa, because I realize that he is the POTUS nominee- and has a strng and substantial graps of the gravity of that job, and what is necessary to drag us our of the debacle of a lied into war- economic recession, health care ememrgency, housing scandal- that are the REAL issues we are concenred with.

The fact that the Repubs so willingly abandon their candidate for a woman who, however cute she is- has no stances on the most pressing issues facing America-
(hey, I'm not a vpotus- but even I have an opinion- why? because I actually THINK about them!)
shows how depserately little there is to defend McCain, or even present him in a viable manner.

Is anyone better off than they were 4 years ago?
I'm not, you're not, and none of our neighbors are.

Bush the father left us with a 4 TRILLION dollar deficit-
Inflation rates are the HIGHEST they have been since 17 years ago-
o yes- again when Bush the father left office-

Don't forget, McCain was also on the short list to be VP for Bush the father.
(Dan Quayle was cuter, sound familiar?)

With somoene so entrenched in the old boys network- who guarantees MORE OF THE SAME FAILURE OF THE PREVIOUS (PRESENT) ADMIN-
you want us to buy that old flea-bitten dog?

GIVE US A BREAK!
You can parade all of the baracudas beuaty pageant winners you want in front of us-

This country is tanking economically-
And you want us to accept one of the Keating 5 as a reformer?
O Yes, McCain has led us alright- no one in America knew what a government bailout was before he and his cronies used our taxpayer dollars to give to their buddy- Keating.

You all must think we have the attention spans of flies-

LET'S NOT KEEP FAILIN' WITH PALIN!

I can't find any reference to her saying that she had been advised to abort her child, prior to James Dobson saying it yesterday. Can anyone else find a direct quote from Gov. Palin on this subject?

Anybody seen the movie "Hustle and Flow."
Terrance Howard was nominated for Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role
for: Hustle & Flow (2005)
McCain has Terrance beat by a long shot. After Mrs. Palin's speech they might as well played the theme song "It's hard out here for a pimp." Mrs Palin and women are being used.. period.
Woman deserve better treatment and need to be respected, not used.

Like I said-

You misjudge Sarah Palin because you are unfamiliar with Alaska:

http://dwb.adn.com/front/story/8489684p-8383460c.html

You don't know her. Unless you speak out of fear- wait until you know her to judge her.

Every working woman in Alaska appreciates how capable she has been running our state.

notsogreatscott:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/us/09down.html?pagewanted=all

great article on parents learning they are pregnant with a child who has DS. everyone should read.

"You misjudge Sarah Palin because you are unfamiliar with Alaska"

She managed a quarter of the population of Brooklyn NY and her husband is a union worker for BP. She wants to drill for oil in her home wildlife reserve (to save many 10 cents on gas over a ten year period while her husband gets paid), she wants to force religion into schools and into peoples lives, and she feel like we should all think like her, be NRA gun touting, God fearing, creationists.

She should focus on her personal views and keep her oppressive stance on abortion, gay rights, and conservative values in her own family. She has no right to tell someone else what they should do with their genitals, fetuses, or their thoughts on science and religion. What's right for her is only right for her. But you religious nut bags want to stick your views in everyone's life while our country goes down the sh*tter. Get your lopsided religious views out of my life. I don't want it. It's not your place to say what I can do with my love life, my pregnancy, and what my children learn. Stop forcing your views on us. They're sh*t. Keep your magic stories in your own home or with your own kind.

So, let me make sure I understand your reasoning Rebecca-
Palin put the jet of the former occupant on E-Bay.
Did she actually sell the jet at a profit but really, WHO CARES???

I am supposed to trust the governing of the most powerful leader of the free world, because his VP nominee PUT AN AD ON EBAY?

Yes, I do have some fear- go look at her site posted previously-

NO OPINION ON- FREE TRADE
CIVIL RIGHTS
EDUCATION
THE WAR IN IRAQ (or even a cursory interest- maybe the only mother I've ever encountered with that level of apathy)
CRIME
THE ECONOMY
HEALTH CARE
GOVERNMENT REFORM!

GOVERNMENT REFORM! ISN'T THAT HER STRENGTH???

HOMELAND SECURITY
JOBS
TAXES
HEALTH CARE
SOCIAL SECURITY
FOREIGN POLICY
IMMIGRATION

here is what she has an opinion on-
agaisnts ALL abortions- even in the case of rape and incest- (no one has asked but I do, what about in the case of the health of the mother?)

FOR THE DEATH PENALTY
NO GUN CONTROL

She's just a li'l Bush in a dress-

And your comeback is - she can put an item on Ebay?
Not even that she sold it successfully-

Well, I feel so informed now.

"I don't want it. It's not your place to say what I can do with my love life, my pregnancy, and what my children learn. Stop forcing your views on us. They're sh*t. Keep your magic stories in your own home or with your own kind."

If you are this frightened by Sarah Palin- you are going to completely lose your mind when McCain is president and Palin is VP. Join a support group or something and see if your doctor will tweak your meds. Get off your computer and get a nice quiet hobby like stamp collecting or scrapbooking.

Good luck.

I wonder Rebecca- if you lived in New York, or Los Angeles- if you would have such a high opinion about Palin.
I guess it seems assured if McCain gets elected, and his VP is from Alaska- your corner of the world will benefit.
But other than your own personal benefit- what other reasons do you have to support Palin, and why should everyone else support her?

Looking in on *this* exchange:

""I don't want it. It's not your place to say what I can do with my love life, my pregnancy, and what my children learn. Stop forcing your views on us. They're sh*t. Keep your magic stories in your own home or with your own kind.""

"If you are this frightened by Sarah Palin- you are going to completely lose your mind when McCain is president and Palin is VP. Join a support group or something and see if your doctor will tweak your meds. Get off your computer and get a nice quiet hobby like stamp collecting or scrapbooking."

Yeah, there's a nice domestic policy as regards more than half the US population: 'If you don't like my aggressive and coercive Assemblies Of God agenda, drug yourself up and get a nice Betty Crocker hobby.'

What I don't understand is how can someone be against abortion but for the death penalty, guns that kill people, and dragging out a war that's killing thousands of brave Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens? How does that even make any sense?

You can't abort a life that can't support itself to begin with, but you're for killing grown ups and citizens of another country. Think of this double standard on the most basic of terms. It's so typical of Religion. Love for all! (Except gays, pro choice individuals, the poor, minorities, and anyone else who doesn't think like us!) It's almost stone age thinking.

Lets ignore what science has been telling us and continues to tell us, and rule and ruin people's lives because some basic minded humans wrote a book about their own God and human savors thousands of years ago. Fear God and you will be saved! A God we created. Because humans are the end-all save-all to the Universe. Come on????

Well, Victoria, and others... Don't get me wrong about my opinion of Alaska. My default plan in high school was to go for military pilot training and then head off somewhere like Alaska to be a bush pilot.. Too bad health and Republican agendas about what girls were capable of didn't seem to agree... Frankly, a little proper health care at the right time, and I might have been with the Coast Guard or Forest Service.

But hey.

There's a difference between wanting a firearm when you actually might run into bears or otherwise be on your own, ...and wanting to translate that into more AK-aks on the streets of poor neighborhoods, a la the NRA.
That goes both ways, but...

I wonder if *she* knows that.

She's female, but anti-feminist. She's chosen to be very 'pro-life' in her own life, but, *she's had the option to have five kids.*

She had a kid with Downs' Syndrome. Well, she wants to put someone through that, OK. She could buy em a Yale degree, too.

She wants to impose that on people who *don't.*
That's not 'feminist.'

And, yes, she's pro-corporate. Oil industry corporate. That does mean money in Alaska.

Big money.

Let's talk policy.

Anonymous - nice link, but not germane to the question of whether she ever really said she was advised to abort the child, or James Dobson and Richard Land made it up.

This was a great gift for the Democratic Party. This will be great material for the late night talk shows and the political cartoonists. Can't you see it with Sarah and her assault rifle and lifetime NRA credentials. This is what the Republican Party thinks the American public will buy into? The Republican Party either thinks the American public are idiots, or this party is. This is the party that truely believes that only certain chosen ones should be in a position of leadership. Only white, Christian, conservative, creationist thinking people. If you are well educated, you need not apply. Let's hope the colleges can turn out enough thoughtful people to turn this comedy that is John McCain into nothing more than a footnote in history.
To my knowledge those that have the test that informs them of carrying a Downs Syndrome child are simply told the options, they are not advised to have an abortion.

Here is an article outlining some of Palin's work as governor in Alaska.

Her accomplishments far far outstrip Obama's. When you pair her ability to get the job done with John McCain's long term experience in bringing people together- they are going to be hard to stop in November. (Sorry about that you frightened Obama faithful who are venting your fear pheromes here.)

I'd invite you to post Obama's accomplishments but its already been noted in this thread that he has none.

"In 2006- Sarah Palin became both the first female and youngest governor in Alaskan history at the age of 42.

She had previously gained statewide attention as a gutsy maverick unafraid to speak truth after whistleblowing on ethical violations by state Republican Party leaders during her time on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.

But the mother-of-five combines her soft looks with a keen grasp of the issues and a formidable campaigning style.

A strong social conservative and a staunch supporter of gun rights, she is hugely popular in Alaska — a poll published last month showed her approval rating at 80 per cent.

Mrs Palin is strongly pro-life — typified, observers say, by the fact that her fifth child, born in April, has Down's Syndrome. The Palins also have teenage son, Track, and three young daughters, Bristol, Willow, and Piper.

She also opposes same-sex marriage, but has often sympathised with the concerns of gay community about discrimination and has implemented legislation ensuring equal benefits for same-sex couples.

After running her gubernatorial campaign on clean government, Mrs Palin has successfully pushed through an ethics Bill as well as shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans. She is a spending hawk, having slashed the state's construction budget by $237 million - the largest cuts in Alaskan history.

After taking office, she followed through on a campaign promise to sell a Windward II jet purchased on state credit. Placing it on eBay three times, she eventually sold it to the highest bidder for $2.7 million.

Mrs Palin's energy stance dovetails nicely with that of Mr McCain — promoting resource development while also taking steps to address climate change and environmental issues. She has recently announced plans to create a new sub-cabinet group of advisers, tasked with reducing greenhouse gas emissions within Alaska.

An Alaskan through and through, Mrs Palin grew up with a love of traditional outdoor pursuits. As a child she regularly got up before dawn to go moose-hunting with her father and is still a strong believer in gun ownership. She is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association.

Before entering politics she had a number of unconventional jobs including sports reporter and commercial fisherman, the latter alongside her husband Todd, who is a Yupik Innuit. Todd is a four-time winner of the Tesoro Iron Dog, regarded as the most grueling snowmobile race in the world."

"She had previously gained statewide attention as a gutsy maverick"

New Rule:

McCain's campaign doesn't get to use the word 'Maverick' until he re-reverses all those 'maverick' positions he so strongly took until he decided to rebrand himself for the Religious Right vote.

I mean, seriously. I used to have some respect for McCain, admittedly some of it filed under 'benefit of the Doubt,' ...but it was bold of him to stand alone against the rest of the GOP to, as someone subjected to Communist torture and conditioning for five and a half years, absolutely refuse to condone the United States of America torturing prisoners... Until a preacher asked him to say the opposite.

'Maverick?' Still cattle, apparently.

Re-branded and all.

Like McCain, Palin believes that oil drilling is the only solution to our energy problems. “I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can’t drill our way out of our problem,” she says. She supports more drilling in protected areas of the Outer Continental Shelf and the Alaska Natural Wildlife Refuge, once attacking McCain for his “close-mindedness on ANWR.”

But the Department of Energy believes that offshore drilling “would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030.” Moreover, about three-quarters of all the oil in public lands in the continental U.S. are already open to drilling – and yet only one quarter of this oil is under production. Opening the Arctic Refuge would cut gasoline prices by two cents in 17 years. For that, Palin would destroy the home of America’s native polar bears. Not even T. Boone Pickens still thinks we can drill our way out of this crisis.

Palin rejects clean renewable energy that is an alternative to oil. Earlier this month, she claimed that “alternative-energy solutions are far from imminent and would require more than 10 years to develop.”

Alaska has become the “poster state” for the threat of global warming as the climate gets hotter and dryer and sea levels rise. More than 100 towns are vulnerable due to eroding sea lines. Polar bears are threatened by the melting ice floas, and this month bears were spotted swimming as much as 50 miles offshore.

Nonetheless, like many other oil champions, Palin is skeptical of global warming. During her gubernatorial campaign, she said she was unconvinced about how much human emissions contribute to current global warming trends. Palin also opposes listing our polar bears as a threatened species because it could require action on climate change.

As Carl Pope of the Sierra Club says, “No one is closer to the oil industry than Governor Palin.” Sarah Palin has taken positions that would ensure a continuation of the Bush-Cheney energy policies. She supports drilling everywhere and ignores the need for binding reductions in global warming pollution even though her state is melting. The continuation of these policies will continue higher energy costs, more severe hurricanes and droughts, and despoiled natural treasures.

She's a religious nut bag who believes her thoughts and lifestyle should be everyone's thoughts and lifestyle. Enough said. All set. I'm neither Dem or Reb. Thanks.

"Tim:

Here is an article outlining some of Palin's work as governor in Alaska."

Tim: Your cut and paste jobs seems to have missed this paragraph:

"However, Mrs Palin is not entirely free of scandal. She is currently under investigation by the state legislature for possible abuse of power surrounding the dismissal of the commissioner for public safety, Walter Moneghan. Mr Moneghan alleges that he was fired because he was reluctant to sack a state trooper who was involved in a bitter divorce and custody battle with her sister, Molly McCann. The governor is said to be co-operating with the investigation, which is being overseen by Democratic State Senator Hollis French."

Funny how you managed to get all the text before and after....

Add this to the list of Sarah Palin's accomplishments-

Annual Governor's Picnic in Alaska

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKc2FK1HZso

You don't know Alaskans yet-

Governor Palin: pregnancy won't interfere with duties

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkYT0HFAxXw

Rebecca- obviously you don't know me on these boards-

I willnot do your thinking or homework for you- ESPECIALLY when it involves passively watching TV-

If you can't bother to use your own brain and reasoning to make an articulate point-

Don't try phoning it in with youtube.

WE CANNOT DRILL OUR WAY OUT OF THIS ENERGY MESS-

First- we will not even see the first drop of oil for FIVE YEARS
2nd- It will go straight into the global market-
not into american tanks-
3rd- we ALREADY HAVE unused areas to drill
4th- It will only CONTINUE DEPENDENCE on big oil and the foreign markets
5th- IT IS MORE OF THE SAME

trillions of dollars in debt-
highest inflation rates IN 17 YEARS
a nominated VP who RAISED SALES TAXES on her tiny town of 8,500- what a sneaky way to get aronud rasing taxes-

and your rebuttal is a PICNIC VIDEO???

PUHLEEEZE!!!

Despite your incredibly provincial take on this NATIONAL race, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt to make your case Rebecca.

So, I'll give YOU some homework- why don't you go find for us Palin's stance on issues like the Iraq War, foreign policy, the economy, health care, and energy RENEWAL that predates 2 days ago.
good luck!

This article was a complete waste of time. Gov. Palin gets admiration from evangelicals! Hell, this is the group that held and in some cases still hold, respect and admiration for the failed president that still occupies the Oval Office(when he is not on vacation somewhere). Please...the only thing you have to do to get support from the religious reich is say you are pro-life, you love jesus, you hate Darwin and guns are in the bible. If you do it well enough they will send you money too.

I did not realize 'til this article that membership in the NRA was a tenet of Evangelical Christianity.

I do think the VP pick was a good one for McCain, though.

vote for my man obama, whose mother had great influence on his life, his on words, about the only words he says I believe.......his mother was an atheist and a marxist and this influence led him to wright's church.......i don't think he was sleeping for 20 years......want socialism......vote obamalinbiden!

I think you're on to something here. I should have done this a long time ago. I need money, and a little power and oppression of others doesn't hurt the ego either. If I play it up right I could probably milk the angelical public for a ton. They've been milking me every day since 2000 when prez Monkey Bush took office. They owe me. And they owe every other rational thinking American who can decide for themselves what's right and wrong in their human existence. Those good people who do not need some ghost story to live their lives by.

Now these book followers want to keep going down this path in the hopes that some stupid laws will prevent abortions and gays getting married? Are you kidding me? That's all they care about. They sell their "souls" (whatever that means) everyday to some book. What's a nation of non-believers struggling to survive matter to them? As long as they get their God fearing laws passed. Millions of people making a decision based on two or three laws built to oppress and force their views on Millions of others.

They'd change their tune real quick if it were Momma bin Laden sitting in the free clinic waiting for her doctor to abort lil baby Osama. Tell me they wouldn't. Or if their daughter were rapped by an evil man and got her pregnant. Or in the case of Dick(head) Cheney and when he found out about his daughter coming out of the closet. The tune changes real quick for these people. A group of followers for life until their oppression comes back on them.

I wish no ill will on anyone. I've been a decent human since I can remember. All on common sense, not on the "good-book" sense. But when they start wishing their misguided will on me and other who don't want to be oppressed then it's only fair to voice back and call a spade a spade.

These people claim our country was founded on "good christian values". A fact we know is not true. They disregard real science in favor of stories and past scriptures of super hero men. Human men that did super human things. Things we've never seen and have never been proven. I'm sorry but my common sense just can't jive with that. Keep it in your home and in your own family. Don't tell me I can make my own choices about my life, my pregnancy, who I can marry, or a child learns in a public school. Religion has caused enough human suffering and death. Do we really need to keep down this road? America is worse then I can ever remember it. Deeply divided with great animosity for each other. Enough is enough. This is beyond just presidents and politics. Humans are conditioned almost beyond repair.

"monel:

.... Please...the only thing you have to do to get support from the religious reich is say you are pro-life, you love jesus, you hate Darwin and guns are in the bible. If you do it well enough they will send you money too."

Good for Palin to get elected governor of Alaska. Of course when it was thought that Obama would pick the governor of Virginia, Karl Rove said that Kaine had only been governor for 3 years, Virginia was a small state, and his time running the city of Richmond didn't count because Richmond was a "small town".

Tim claims that Palin has a "keen grasp of the issues" yet she has no opinion on any national issue other than if your wife is raped you get to raise your the rapists kid. Wow, talk about pro-family.

Palin seems to have little going for her than ambition and her looks. Her level of education is far, far below Obama's. She couldn't get admitted to the schools Obama went to, let alone get a scholorship. No doubt when she is asked tough questions she will hide behind her kids, playing the "how dare you question the mother of a baby with down's syndrom".

McCain care's less about our country's security than in getting his swollen old rear end into the WH. I have more respect for Dubya at this point - Rove, Cheney and Dubya were right - McCain has become a kiss up and a coward.

Victoria is not inspired by Sarah Palin's many accomplishments.

Is it that she prefers the work of women like wife of Obama's friend William Ayers- Bernadette Dohrn?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voBBx9EaEGA

I'm still waiting to see Palin's accomplsihments-

Attmepts at distracting by attacking the opposition, is still an absence of credible actions-

Give us a laundry list-

So far we have,
Pagaent winner
Athlete
Can work an ebay website-
Friend to big oil
friend to NRA
Is capable of procreating.
Mayor of town of 8,500
Governor of Alaska for 1 1/2 years-

the first 7 of the 9 are not accomplishments that garner admiration of intellect

give us some distinction, a quote- anything!

We are open and waiting-

Evangelicals inspired by Palin. What a surprise. Objectively rated as the least prepared Vice Presidential candidate in American history.

But they don't care. They don't see any problem with what has happened over the last 8 years either. They are part of the 15% who think the country is going in the right direction. They still adore George Bush. And they are useful idiots, who the Republican party takes advantage of every four years. Very like trained dogs - when you give them the signal, they obey. This is not all evangelicals mind you, but they know who they are. But we are not going to just stand there and take it - this a promise. We will stop you from damaging our beloved country beyond repair.

.......

Sarah Palin -- this hockey mom, moose hunter, gun-toting Tom Boy is a direct insult to all the mothers of our country.

Next we will elect Britney Spears, deploy her to active duty tours in Iraq, and remark how she is so couragious because she performed night after night in front of millions of people a decade ago and learned to shoot a gun.

So far we have vague allusions to a greatness that never manifest with accomplishments.

And claims of popularity as a substantial reason to lead the free world.

This isn't high school. Winning a beauty pagaent, being a great point guard on your basketball team- are not a sufficient resume.

Again- no one has a word to endorse that acutal candidate.
Physical porwess does not equal good judgement.

Apparently Rebecca and others could not find any stance on issues- because one does not yet exist.
You are advocating for a pretty empty pantsuit who is being told as we speak what she will think about issues she has had no interest in.
That is not a leader- that is more of the same.

"Evangelicals inspired by Palin. What a surprise."

Bill if you are right and the evangelical vote gets behind the McCain/Palin ticket---

The 4th day in November is gonna be a sad day in Mudville for the Obama people.

jerry writes
"Victoria is not inspired by Sarah Palin's many accomplishments."

Losing a beauty contest and procreating are "accomplishments" but they hardly make leadership material.
I look at her public policy stances and see a lot I don't like. Her stance on abortion is extreme. Maybe if your wife was raped by another man you'd want to have your wife carry his kid to term and raise it, but a lot of us wouldn't. Forcing kids to learn "creationism" in public schools is akin to force kids to learn "demonology" instead of "psychology" because "we should teach both sides". As mayor she cut a property tax (aimed at the well to do) and raised the sales tax (aimed at working class people), which is bad public policy. She is a supporter of big oil, but otherwise has no public policy positions. She has abused the power of her office, which I think we have had enough of with Dick Cheney. Maybe you'll tell us what her policy positions are, or why you like the ones we do know about, but I doubt it.

"Is it that she prefers the work of women like wife of Obama's friend William Ayers"

Ayer's isn't a friend of Obama. Are you ignorant or a liar? In either case, why take anything you have to say seriously ever again? If McCain/Palin is such a good ticket, why is your only argument to tear down Obama? Perhaps because you know that McCain/Palin is a pretty poor ticket?

Game set and match, baby!

Governor Palin signed Senate Bill 4 at the Governor’s Annual Picnic in Anchorage. Senate Bill 4, passed during the special session, creates the Senior Benefits Program. Eligible seniors may receive up to $250 a month based on their income.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKc2FK1HZso

Has Obama done anything equivalent?

Well, Obama is a Chicago kickback artist- and he did manage to funnel money to Wright and Phleger's churches after he was elected. And he sent a grant of over one million $$ to the hospital where his wife worked (they in turn tripled her salary).

Anonymous writes "Governor Palin signed Senate Bill 4 at the Governor’s Annual Picnic in Anchorage. Senate Bill 4, passed during the special session, creates the Senior Benefits Program. Eligible seniors may receive up to $250 a month based on their income."

Key phrase being "Eligible seniors may receive up to $250 a month based on their income"

Eligible?
May receive?
up to $250/month?

No indication how generous this is. Given the rise in fuel prices, that paltry amount could leave seniors who heat with oil or gas freezing.

Nice try!

"After her husband won a U.S. Senate seat in 2004, Michelle Obama's professional life began to come under scrutiny. An online video said she received a pay increase of $195,000 just months after her husband was sworn in.

Obama was promoted to a vice president at the University of Chicago Hospitals; her salary nearly tripled, from $122,000 to $316,000 a year."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93535521

“Ms. Obama’s income from the University of Chicago Hospitals, where she was a top administrator until going on leave, more than doubled when Mr. Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004.”

"Just a few months before he joined the presidential race, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) co-sponsored a little-noticed proposal to require the Pentagon to spend $2 million on brain trauma research for soldiers wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The beneficiary of the Aug. 2, 2006, earmark from him and Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) was undeniably close to home: the University of Chicago, where his wife, Michelle, worked as the university hospital's vice president for community and external affairs."

ALL OBAMA'S CHICAGO FRIENDS WHO GOT A PIECE OF PIE:

http://politicalmavens.com/index.php/2008/06/09/obama-funding-of-cronies/

On the issue of faith and evangelicals I am wondering since God didn't see fit to smite Obama in Mile High Stadium are they going to vote for him since Gustav is going to damage the Republican convention? What they prayed for is happening to them, is it because God is angry at their hateful pursuit of Obama and his family?

The selection of Palin is an insult to the intelligence of every American voter - particularly women.

McCain had already locked down the base - the abortion voters - where are they going to go? Why Palin?

Do they honestly think that Clinton supporters will fall behind a ticket with McCain and his abyssmal record on womens issues? Couple him with a far right wing abortion extremist as vp, and independent and centrist women will not just walk, but run away from the McCain - Palin ticket.

Women were looking to Clinton as a proponent of womens issues. Palin is the antithesis of Clinton. Those votes won't come. In fact I believe the reverse will be true. He has insulted the intelligence and the accomplishments of women by selecting Palin - and that anger will translate into votes for Obama.

I think this was a rash political decsion that reflects poorly on mccains judgement and the level of seriousness he has on this election and the issues. I'm insulted that he honestly thinks that the American electorate will buy that Sara Palin is qualified to step in as president if necessary.

Maybe someone should tell McCain that this selection was for the vice president of the United States, not the Waskill, Alaska school board.

The latest zogby survey begun Friday afternoon and completed mid-afternoon today shows McCain/Palin at 47% compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1547

Pollster John Zogby: "Palin is not to be underestimated. Her real strength is that she is authentic, a real mom, an outdoors person, a small town mayor (hey, she has dealt with a small town city council - that alone could be preparation for staring down Vladimir Putin, right?). She is also a reformer."

I don't particularly enjoy the policies of Bush being continued four more years. But when I see so much venom about Palin coming from Democratic pens,
I really wonder if I want these hateful Democrats to run the country...

Has the idea of "respect for fellow Americans" totally gone out the window? Democrats complain about Swiftboating, but they seem to be champions at it.

A pity for the country, which needs more unity and less hatred.

My two cents as an outsider:

People claim to be non-partisan and fair, yet all assessment of Senator Obama is filled with favoritism by Democrats/leaning towards Democrats. It is understandable Republicans after eight years of some unwise politics are not exactly popular and it is in the nature of the voting public to want change, any change, change for the sake of change. For that reason alone Senator Obama will win the election. He will also win the election for another reason - the US *wants* to make history by electing a black president. It is a great symbolic gesture. His blackness is only symbolic to a great extent because Senator Obama is not the typical black American of slave extraction who can talk of a rag to riches personal journey. He is the son of a single white mother who happened to have a child by a privileged black African man and was raised by white well to do grandparents. His white grandmother, who was vice president of a bank, for whom he was only one two grandchildren, isn't exactly what most black Americans have. Those who complain that Senator Obama has lived a privileged life and cannot really identify with the black American suffering, *from his personal experience* are right. He grew up in Hawaii where mixed race is common and his father as the only black overseas student from Africa was exotic rather than inferior. Living as the son of a white American woman and stepson of an American qualified well to do native Indonesian is also a privileged place to be. Attending an almost all white, expensive school in Hawaii, supported by well to do grandparents is again not an example of struggling in society, especially considering Hawaii is multiracial and being a "hapa" was not a shame.

Electing a black president is sure to give the US a great image boost around the world. Other black international representatives - Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice.

All that said, the merit of Senator Obama's election campaign promises can be judged only after he has actually taken office and has proved himself. He and the Democrats well deserve to be given a chance to prove themselves. But it is not fair to give credit to Senator Obama in advance, and to criticize Senator McCain and his pick of VP in advance.

Senator Obama has many admirable qualities, the greatest of which is his ability to inspire. But due credit must be given to a hero behind the scenes who first came up with the idea Senator Obama was the man who could be made to an inspiration - David Axelrod, the ex-mediaman, business, and political consultant who has the genius to market a person like a product. Without David Axelrod, it might never have occurred to Senator Obama to have the kind of audacity of hope that he did. There is another David, another genius working behind the scenes for Senator Obama, David Plouffe, the campaign manager, who masterminds a grassroots vote and money collecting strategy, so that Senator Obama has literally millions and millions of dollars at his disposal through donations of the smallest amounts from millions of supporters.

Senator Obama has been presented in the best light possible, his strengths highlighted and his weaknesses played down. That is politics 101.

That is precisely why Senator McCain and his VP pick must be treated with fairness. To play down their strengths and highlight their weaknesses is political rivalry 101.

I have some concerns about McCain’s choice for Vice President Mrs. Sarah Palin. Is is obvious that she is pro life, and with 5 children she either wanted a big family or does not use birth control. She is still young enough to conceive you know, she still has some years to go before menopause. Now, my guess is that she does not use birth control, which is fine if that is what she believes in. My concern is this; what if she becomes pregnant while she is in office? What if McCain became ill or dies? After all he is 72 years old, it could happen. Will she have to go on maternity leave? If she becomes pregnant will she want to breast feed her new born in between meetings? What is her stance on motherhood? Is she a mother first and a Vice President second? Or vice versa? Will she have a play pen in her office while she meets with government officials and heads of states? What if the baby cries? Or she goes into post partum depression? Are these questions out of line or legitimate concerns for my country?

Maria McClain
Tampa, FL

I have some concerns about McCain’s choice for Vice President Mrs. Sarah Palin. It is obvious that she is pro life, and with 5 children she either wanted a big family or does not use birth control. She is still young enough to conceive you know, she still has some years to go before menopause. Now, my guess is that she does not use birth control, which is fine if that is hat she believes in. My concern is this; what if she becomes pregnant while she is in office? What if McCain became ill or dies? After all he is 72 years old, it could happen. Will she have to go on maternity leave? If she becomes pregnant will she want to breast feed her new born in between meetings? What is her stance on motherhood? Is she a mother first and a Vice President second? Or vice versa? Will she have a play pen in her office while she meets with government officials and heads of states? What if the baby cries? Or she goes into post partum depression? Are these questions out of line or legitimate concerns for my country?

The typical bias in action in the previous post.

Governor Sarah Palin has managed her life as a career woman while raising FOUR children, without feeling the need to abort any child to pursue her career. She did not want to abort a child with Down's Syndrome in a world where women abort healthy children for convenience. It must be seen as her strength as a woman, rather than the other way around.

Judge her skills based on what she has done with the power she had. If she has managed her little power well, she will manage her big power when she is given that power. On a national stage she is only VP, not the President. Presidents and VPs have an army of advissers behind them who help them make decisions; they are not frontline foot soldiers engaged in war who must make split second decisions on their own. Senator Obama and Senator Biden have their army of advisers too.

In the days of monarchy sometimes children suddenly found themselves on the throne forced to "rule" their country after their fathers were killed in battle or uprisings. They managed because advisers did their jobs. That is what advisers are there for.

It is the same in democracies. Political advisers and speech writers do the bulk of brain work behind the scenes of a politician.

Seventy two is not an age when people are expected to die of old age. As to dying of sudden illness or accident, even a forty year old can die. The criteria of sudden death holds good for *all.*

So the Palin selection was done strictly to energize the evangelical base...Ok, same old gop hooey.

Obama has also done some energizing too - but he's energized a nation. Let me know when the McCain - Palin ticket is able to draw 85,000 enthusiastic supporters to any campaign related event.

I'll bet Obama's nation trumps McCains base.

Are these guys that dumb? They are praising her for not aborting, when she knew her child would have down syndrome. I am wondering she and her husband are so stupid and horny that they do not give a crap if they bring a child with down syndrome. When it is well know that pregnancies when the woman is in her 40s is fraught with such results. Couldn't the dumb husband have vasectomy and this horny woman couldn't have her tubes tied? Or haven't they heard of the pill or raincoat. Did they think this was god's gift and their fornication had nothing to do with the pregnancy? How dumb is this Grandpa Munster? Isn't there no one else in the grand old party who is conservative enough to attract enough jesus crowd come home? When I hear this kind of crap, is when I am ashamed of being an American.

Women do not get pregnant very often after the age of 44. Even among the very young, after child birth there is usually a natural safe period of about two years. Among the married in the pre-contraceptive era, when no one felt a need to limit pregnancies, one would notice that children are usually two years apart.

Secular said-

"I am ashamed of being an American"

We agree. I'm ashamed you are an American too.

Maria McClain, as a woman you must know that contraception can fail and does in many cases. The high rate of abortions in spite of widespread use of contraception is proof of it.

If you, as a woman, choose to say Governor Palin should have aborted her child because it had Down's Syndrome, that is a different matter. Many women love their sick and handicapped children. All women know that the embryo/fetus in their womb is their growing child. Many women choose to love them even if the children are not perfect. Have you a problem with unconditionally loving mothers?

On the abortion issue as Christians, Senator Obama and Governor Palin couldn't be further apart: one staunchly pro-abortion as the right of women, voting against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act three times as Senator of Illinois, with the reputation of having humiliated a nurse prolife activist on the Senate floor, and a woman who remained a career woman with four children and recently carried to term a fifth child, she could have aborted because of Down's Syndrome, yet accepted and loves unconditionally. That is a powerfully moving story of a mega woman and mega love.

For some people, especially those who are horrified by the abortion for convenience mentality of the vast majority of modern women, it is edifying to know that unconditionally loving mothers still exist, women who are strong enough to love ALL their children and still pursue a career.

The political campaign, in order to be assessed fairly, must be viewed thus:

Experience and achievements of Senator Obama

Experience and achievements of Senator Biden

Merits of policies proposed by the Obama-Biden team

Experience and achievements of Senator McCain

Experience and achievements of Governor Palin

Merits of policies proposed by the McCain-Palin team.

Since Senator Obama and Governor Palin are both young, compare the skills needed to be a Congressman vs skills needed to be Governor.

This link is to a transcript of a Q & A session on Sarah Palin, hosted by WaPo, where questions were taken by an Alaskan journalist who has followed her career. Interesting reading.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/08/29/DI2008082902052.html

For Tim, Jerry, and others who have opined that Barack Obama has never accomplished anything, here is an excerpt from his biography on Biography.com (I encourage you to visit the site and read the whole thing). I think you will find plenty of accomplishments in it:

Obama entered Harvard Law School in 1988. In February 1990, he was elected the first African–American editor of the Harvard Law Review. Obama graduated magna cum laude in 1991.

After law school, Obama returned to Chicago to practice as a civil rights lawyer, joining the firm of Miner, Barnhill & Galland. He also taught at the University of Chicago Law School. And he helped organize voter registration drives during Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential campaign.

Obama published an autobiography in 1995 Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance. And he won a Grammy for the audio version of the book.

Obama’s advocacy work led him to run for the Illinois State Senate as a Democrat. He was elected in 1996 from the south side neighborhood of Hyde Park.

During these years, Obama worked with both Democrats and Republicans in drafting legislation on ethics, expanded health care services and early childhood education programs for the poor. He also created a state earned-income tax credit for the working poor. And after a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.

In 2000, Obama made an unsuccessful Democratic primary run for the U. S. House of Representatives seat held by four-term incumbent candidate Bobby Rush.

Following the 9/11 attacks, Obama was an early opponent of President George W. Bush’s push to war with Iraq. Obama was still a state senator when he spoke against a resolution authorizing the use of force against Iraq during a rally at Chicago’s Federal Plaza in October 2002.

"I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars," he said. "What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne."

"He's a bad guy," Obama said, referring to Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. "The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him. But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history."

"I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U. S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences," Obama continued. "I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda."

The war with Iraq began in 2003 and Obama decided to run for the U.S. Senate open seat vacated by Republican Peter Fitzgerald. In the 2004 Democratic primary, he won 52 percent of the vote, defeating multimillionaire businessman Blair Hull and Illinois Comptroller Daniel Hynes.

That summer, he was invited to deliver the keynote speech in support of John Kerry at the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston. Obama emphasized the importance of unity, and made veiled jabs at the Bush administration and the diversionary use of wedge issues.

"We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states," he said. "We coach Little League in the blue states, and yes, we've got some gay friends in the red states. There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq, and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the Stars and Stripes, all of us defending the United States of America."

After the convention, Obama returned to his U.S. Senate bid in Illinois. His opponent in the general election was supposed to be Republican primary winner Jack Ryan, a wealthy former investment banker. However, Ryan withdrew from the race in June 2004, following public disclosure of unsubstantiated sexual allegations by Ryan's ex wife, actress Jeri Ryan.

In August 2004, diplomat and former presidential candidate Alan Keyes, who was also an African American, accepted the Republican nomination to replace Ryan. In three televised debates, Obama and Keyes expressed opposing views on stem cell research, abortion, gun control, school vouchers and tax cuts.

In the November 2004 general election, Obama received 70% of the vote to Keyes's 27%, the largest electoral victory in Illinois history. Obama became only the third African American elected to the U.S. Senate since Reconstruction.

Sworn into office January 4, 2005, Obama partnered with Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana on a bill that expanded efforts to destroy weapons of mass destruction in Eastern Europe and Russia. Then with Republican Sen. Tom Corburn of Oklahoma, he created a website that tracks all federal spending.

Obama was also the first to raise the threat of avian flu on the Senate floor, spoke out for victims of Hurricane Katrina, pushed for alternative energy development and championed improved veterans´ benefits. He also worked with Democrat Russ Feingold of Wisconsin to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress.

Thamks Pam- that really was an enlightening insider perspective.

ANON- "Since Senator Obama and Governor Palin are both young, compare the skills needed to be a Congressman vs skills needed to be Governor."

I'm assuming you think that Obama is a congressman. He is a Senator.

There are 435 congressmen and women divided by the various state districts.

There are 2 senators from each state- 100 total.

Each state has 1 governor.

This is your PSA, so, the more you know...

For those who complain that the demcratic supporters are close-minded about Palin-
I keep asking you for your input-

No youtube please or wikipedia-
I think no one does it because the laundry list would be so dismally short in print.

VICTORIA:

ANON- "Since Senator Obama and Governor Palin are both young, compare the skills needed to be a Congressman vs skills needed to be Governor."

I'm assuming you think that Obama is a congressman. He is a Senator.

There are 435 congressmen and women divided by the various state districts.

There are 2 senators from each state- 100 total.

Each state has 1 governor.

August 31, 2008 12:59 AM

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Thanks for info.

One Governor and two Senators per state.

So Senator Obama is one of two Senators from Illinois and Governor Palin is the only Governor of Alaska.

VICTORIA:

This is your PSA, so, the more you know...

August 31, 2008 12:59 AM

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PSA = Prostate Specific Antigen?

Corrected:

Women do not get pregnant very often after the age of 44. Even among the very young, after child birth, there is usually a natural safe period of about FIFTEEN MONTHS. Among the married in the pre-contraceptive era, when no one felt a need to limit pregnancies, one would notice that children are usually two years apart.

August 30, 2008 10:58 PM

It would be noticed in the pre-contraceptive era when women married young, they did not usually have more than four to six children. There were only very few exceptions to this rule. They might have had three or four miscarriages or a couple of stillbirths at most. Back alley abortions were sought out only in cases when women became pregnant out of wedlock or in obvious cases of cheating wives within wedlock.

So there seems to have been a natural contraception at work which limited the number children a woman bore during her years of fertility.

Miscarriages and stillbirths is loss of pregnancy due to natural causes before and after the 20th week respectively.

Governor Palin may not stand much of a chance politically against the strong Obama-Biden team. But she could use the opportunity to make a strong case for prolife at a national level in the short time that she will remain in the spotlight.

A woman who combined career and motherhood without aborting her children and accepting a child with Down's Syndrome makes for a powerful woman. She could add more value and power to career women who are prolife.

PSA=Public Service Announcement-

That's why the internet has a limited usage.
One have to accept what someone else thinks is important for one to know, instead of using one's own memory, and reasoning and making one's own connections.

I'm not blaming you personally- or implying anything about you Anon- it's just my own observation-

PSA's are those commercials where a celebrity or someone else will come on and say things like 1 in 4 people who have AIDS don't know that they have it- or something like that.

When I see that one, I always think- if THEY don't know that they have it- how does anyone ELSE know that they don't know? :)

VICTORIA:

PSA=Public Service Announcement-

That's why the internet has a limited usage.
One have to accept what someone else thinks is important for one to know, instead of using one's own memory, and reasoning and making one's own connections.

I'm not blaming you personally- or implying anything about you Anon- it's just my own observation-

PSA's are those commercials where a celebrity or someone else will come on and say things like 1 in 4 people who have AIDS don't know that tshey have it- or something like that.

When I see that one, I always think- if THEY don't know that they have it- how does anyone ELSE know that they don't know? :)

August 31, 2008 1:57 AM

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Victoria, there is a simple rule with regard to using abbreviations even among people who know exactly what the other is taking about. The first time it is used one spells out the full form first. PSA stands for many things, unlike HIV/AIDS.

How does one work out statistics about one in four not knowing they have HIV/AIDS? If hospital records show that one fourth of the patients diagnosed with HIV/AIDS had been diagnosed when they sought treatment for illnesses they did not associate with an HIV infection or in a routine medical check up without any illness at all. HIV infection remains dormant for a long time, sometimes even years. Sometimes patients are diagnosed with an HIV infection only after they have progressed to the stage of full blown AIDS.

If Governor Palin makes a science based case that abortion is killing of innocent, voiceless, defenseless children growing in their mother's womb, and it is not about getting rid of a clump of cells or a parasite, she will have done a great service to young women who have not yet bought the pro-abortion propaganda.

There are two other cases Governor Palin can make convincingly because of her own life: women can combine children and career; women can love children who are not perfect. Abortion is not the only option.

ANON- One takes it into context-

Saying 'This is your PSA- the more you know-'

You could pretty well assume I was not giving you your prostate specific antigen-
also- the more you know is the slogan used on PSA's.
The reasoning you use for how anyone could determine such a statistic would make the information obsolete- or with an indeterminate expiration date-

it would not reflect what we know now- but what we surmise from past diagnoses.

That is another interesting subject for another time. Statistics on AIDS in particular reflect what was- notoriously so. Not what is.
for exactly the reasons you stated.

I'll assume that last post was yours.

What, exactly about having a child with Down's Syndrome makes a woman powerful?
I have overcome a greater stigma than that by far- by a much greater degree of personal sacrifice and the same decision-
but it doesn't qualify me to lead the free world.

And it just wouldn't be possible for her to get an abortion- even if it were her fervent desire.
She is in the public eye- and notably and vocally anti-abortion- even for rape victims.

Where in the world could she find a doctor to give her an abortion- without having to killhim afterwards?

I tell you from experience- it is not that big a deal. Especially when you have a nanny- babysitters, brothers,sisters, husband and a staff on call to help you and a support system with unlimited resources at your disposal.

NOT having an abortion does NOT make you qualified for anything other than taking care of babies.

I think about this like I do McCain' service-
How could he have possibly made any other decision than the one to stay?
The Admiral, his family, his entire social structure would have been destroyed-

Certainly it was noble of him to decide to stay- but should we imagine it was entirely altuistic and without any other considerations?

If his sense of loyalty were so overwhelming and singular- it would extend into all aspects of his life-
but it didn't. He left his crippled wife and 3 kids.

Don't get caught up- are we supposed to imagine that it is really so special to just be loyal and prove it by walking through the fire?

What makes true honor is the consistency of it-

Are we realy as a people so degraded that we look at this behavior as something so out of the ordinary?
I know people who have made extraordinary sacrifices and made extraordinary decision knowing full wlell that those decisions would remain a secret between them and their god.

Powerful woman? For having a baby?

Greg M. Epstein is a Budhhist + Transcendentalist movement organizer & Conspirator, not Ju:

Schame, SCHAME discusting ScHAME on Harvards so called Rabbi Epstein, et al, the judeo-Ju-boy, playing the Devils "Secular + Huminista advocate card.

Hello {world}:

Harvards Mr. Epstein & Ms. Eck hath jealously hijacked the American Word 'SECULAR' (an Apple) and added (+) the American word 'HUMANiST' (orange) and thus Satanically "hiding" his/their "BUDDHiSM" & "TRANSCEDENTAL MOVEMENT" conspiracy in America & Elswhere!

Remember: SECULARiSM is the Religion of Everything , before the Science of Everything, and Zero, Nothing HUMANiST-ic About "IT"!

Preapocalyptic Jealous Split Minded Psychotic, F O O L S!

PS: As told Ye, Ye [NEWS CORP. et al] are Being Suid! Soon After Labor Day!

Amazing () No Grace! Happy Every Day & Happy god hunting!

Originally Posted August 31, 2008 3:06 AM

Richard says of Obama:
"He gives a good speech as long as someone else wrote it for him."

You could use a writer yourself. But you're wrong about Obama - he writes his own speeches.

The PBS commentators during the convention talked at some length about this.

ONe more thing that sort of repulses me about McCain.
Where is Bridget?

Bridget who? His Bangladeshi (Bengali) adopted daughter- you know, the one he and Cindy lied about Mother Teresa imploring them to take?

There is not even a family photo of her. Go look- 2 photos of her on the net-

Why- with all of these family values, is she not on the stage- ever?

It's a shame.

Palin is a member of Feminists for Life of America -- a venerable but little known pro-life group that focuses on the pro-woman reasons for opposing abortion.

http://www.lifenews.com/nat4237.html

http://www.feministsforlife.org/who/aboutus.htm

ANON_ I'm not going to do your homework for you-
read the article, and pick out what is relevant and chronicle it.
Obviously, if you don't care enough about it to offer it's contnets in a coherent way- do not imagine that I am going to do your caring for you.

lazy lazy brains and people

Victoria:

Powerful woman? For having a baby?

August 31, 2008 3:13 AM

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Becoming the youngest female Governor of Alaska at age 42 while being the mother of four children means nothing to you? Governor Palin did a wee bit more than having babies, IMHO.

I cannot believe you ANON-

YOU ARE SO LAME!!
I went to the second site- and THE FIRST PLACE YOU GO TO REGISTER AND GET IN IS TO GIVE YOUR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION!

You cannot get into the site otherwise-

pugh- eck- DISGUSTING-

Pam:

Richard says of Obama:
"He gives a good speech as long as someone else wrote it for him."

You could use a writer yourself. But you're wrong about Obama - he writes his own speeches.

The PBS commentators during the convention talked at some length about this.

August 31, 2008 3:18 AM

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It is not without reason that Senator McCain complains of biased reporting in the US.

It was UK media that first gave a little more realistic reporting about the makers of Senator Obama, and revealed the role of David Axelrod behind the scenes, the man who crafted most of that great speech in 2004 which launched Obama's national political career.

It is a well known fact politicians have speech writers. It is simply not fair to highlight speech writers of Senator McCain and pretend Senator Obama never got any help from speech writers.

Politics and political rivalry 101.

It is okay to support Senator Obama as a skillful politician, but it is naive to paint him as a demigod.

Victoria:

Senator McCain admitted to his moral failing during the Rev Rick Warren interview forum, his failed first marriage. His first wife granted him divorce. "The settlement included two houses, and financial support for her ongoing medical treatments due to her 1969 car accident; they would remain on good terms."

His first wife has forgiven him, so is there any point in strangers holding a grudge.

Senator McCain entered politics only AFTER he was married to his second wife, who is still with him. So his personal life was known when he entered politics as long ago as 1982 and does not need to be raised 26 years later.

Pam:

Richard says of Obama:
"He gives a good speech as long as someone else wrote it for him."

You could use a writer yourself. But you're wrong about Obama - he writes his own speeches.

The PBS commentators during the convention talked at some length about this.

August 31, 2008 3:18 AM

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A couple of weeks before DNC reporters asked David Axelrod what they could expect from Senator Obama's acceptance speech, and he said that one could expect Obama to bring back themes of inclusiveness and unity.

NOTE, David Axelrod did NOT say, "You should ask Senator Obama because he writes his own speeches and I have no way of knowing what he is going to write about!"

This is a political campaign, the race for the most powerful office in the world and Senator Obama has an army of advisers behind him. He had appointed an experienced team of three to pick the right VP. That is how politics is usually done.

Why be in denial of it? There is nothing to be ashamed of in being a smart politician.

To Victoria:

Are you sure you are referring to this link?

http://www.feministsforlife.org/taf/register.htm

Here's a question for Sarah Palin. If a presidential candidate selects someone he has met only once, someone unqualified even to be governor much less vice-president, what does it say about the presidential candidate? Is he putting ambition before love of country, judgment, and ethics?

Oh and golly gee whiz, the prayers of those rightwing nut jobs were supposed to bring torrential rains to Denver. Whoops, they missed.

Victoria, your comparisons are most amazing.

You don't find it admirable that Governor Palin chooses to have a child with Down's Syndrome, yet your pro-abortion stand finds it perfectly logical for women to abort healthy babies.

Having a child with Down's Syndrome is a lifetime responsibility. Almost 90% of children with genetic defects get aborted, so it does take an exceptionally courageous woman to carry her pregnancy to term.

You have no complaint about the strongly pro-abortion stand of Senator Obama and the fact that he voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act three times.

You are looking desperately to undermine Senator McCain's bravery as POW. Does one choose torture as POW and possible death at the hands of an enemy for some abstract family honor which is of no use to the person concerned after their death? People choose life instinctively whenever they can.

Are you doing this because Senator Obama cannot boast of anything like that?

I'm merely trying to be fair to Senator McCain and Governor Palin.

I have no vested interest in the issue. I think the Obama-Biden ticket is a powerful one and they will win the election and do US proud. Therefore all the more reason to be fair to Senator McCain and Governor Palin.

Victoria, if Governor Palin had wanted to abort her child with Down's Syndrome she could have done in any number of ways without having to kill the abortionist or giving her abortion away to anyone.

Abortion is legal in many countries you know and abortionists are not necessary expected to ring The New York Times or The Washington Post to inform them that the Governor of Alaska just aborted her child because of Down's Syndrome.

Do give credit to the authenticity of Governor Palin. It may seem unbelievable in a world where even aborting healthy babies is considered a "right."

To all those on this blog and elsewhere, I wonder whether their views would change if they heard (as many have suggested) that her 4-month old boy is not her child at all, but rather the child of Palin's 16-year old daughter.

Another lie being manufactured by the pro-Obama supporters. For shame!

New Boston Yankee:

To all those on this blog and elsewhere, I wonder whether their views would change if they heard (as many have suggested) that her 4-month old boy is not her child at all, but rather the child of Palin's 16-year old daughter.

August 31, 2008 5:16 AM

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Anonymous:

Another lie being manufactured by the pro-Obama supporters. For shame!

August 31, 2008 5:41 AM

New Boston Yankee:

To all those on this blog and elsewhere, I wonder whether their views would change if they heard (as many have suggested) that her 4-month old boy is not her child at all, but rather the child of Palin's 16-year old daughter.

August 31, 2008 5:16 AM

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Anonymous:

Another lie being manufactured by the pro-Obama supporters. For shame!

August 31, 2008 5:41 AM
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Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin Gives Birth to Down Baby Despite Abortion Pressure

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
April 22, 2008

Juneau, AK (LifeNews.com) -- As many as 80 percent of unborn children diagnosed with Down syndrome become victims of abortion, but Alaska Gov, Sarah Palin didn't let her child become a statistic. Palin, who has deeply-felt pro-life views, gave birth to her fifth child this week and the baby was diagnosed with the condition.

On Tuesday, Palin confirmed her baby, named Trig Paxson, has Down syndrome.

"Trig is beautiful and already adored by us," Palin said in a statement LifeNews.com obtained.

"We knew through early testing he would face special challenges, and we feel privileged that God would entrust us with this gift and allow us unspeakable joy as he entered our lives," she said.

'We have faith that every baby is created for good purpose and has potential to make this world a better place. We are truly blessed," the 44 year-old governor added.

Trig was born on Friday, one month before his due date, and he weighed 6 pounds, 2 ounces.

Pro-life advocates heaped praise on Palin about the news and said she and her family made a courageous decision to keep the baby.

“I can't help but remember Governor Palin’s campaign slogan ‘Take a Stand,'" Debbie Joslin, the president of Eagle Forum Alaska told LifeNews.com.

"Her choice to value life in a very personal way speaks volumes and gives those of us in the pro-life community in Alaska cause to believe that we truly do have a pro-life leader in charge of our state," she said.

"When so many in our culture have chosen to devalue the lives of those who face special learning disabilities, Governor Palin shines as a great positive role model," Joslin added.

Billy Valentine, a pro-life student leader who worked on the presidential campaign of Sam Brownback, was equally excited.

"Thanks be to God that Gov. Palin is pro-life and the baby wasn't one of the 80% of Down syndrome lives that are aborted each year," he said.

"Say a prayer for Gov. Palin and her family and thank God that the baby is blessed with a pro-life family," Valentine added.

The Palins have four other children including Track, 18, Bristol, 17, Willow, 13 and Piper, 7.

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Source: http://lifenews.com/state3150.html

Vote Obama/Biden - keep fundamentalists out of the White House at all costs!

Congratulations to New Boston Yankee. I was wondering who would be a big enough fool to float a lie on a Faith board. NBY is that fool.

I watched that rumor float the seediest parts of the internet all yesterday. The left has colossal overwhelming fear of Sarah Palin. Knowing nothing about her- they hated her and wanted to get some real dirt on her life.

When someone floated this lie. There was a frenzy of searching for pictures etc. It turns out- the plot of this rumor was stolen from an episode of a recent TV soap opera where a leading character's daughter gets PG and she wears a fake belly and claims the child is hers to cover up for her daughter. Liberals are so lame- can't you make up your own lies?

Its like the poster who parades herself on this board as a devout Muslim- yet is an avid abortion fan who spends her days rumor mongering on this board. Yesterday she tried to pass that the child the McCain's adopted is actually McCain's lovechild. Yes- the McCains have sheltered their adopted child and she is not often seen- but its because of your lies about her and what sleezeballs like you yell at her when she is seen publically..

Obama's devout believers will need help when he fails to become president just months from now. They are already showing a tenuous hold on reality and a really nasty habit of having public tantrums when things don't go their way..

Of course evangelical leaders were elated. After all, "She's a virtual lifetime member of the National Rifle Association¨... -- what more could evangelicals ask for?

Carry a carbine for Christ.

Of course evangelical leaders were delighted. After all "She's a virtual lifetime member of the National Rifle Association..-what more could you ask?

Carry a carbine for Christ.

The truth is old Grampa Simpson is just not intolerant enough for Dobson, Robertson, Craig, Haggard, Swaggert, DeLay, Hannity, O´Reilly, Limberger, Stevens, Vitter et. al. so Palin fits the bill.

With all the problems with Palin, it certainly seems counterproductive and stupid to make her kid(s) an issue. Attacking somebody's child, or spreading rumors about how they got the child is a Republican tactic that normal American find disgusting. As Presiden...I mean Senator Obama would say "We're better than this!"

Interesting that Alaska is pretty much a state that's on welfare. They get tons of money from the federal government. 80% of their budget comes from oil companies, so being governor there has got to be like playing a game on "super-easy". Praising Palin for balancing a budget would be silly. Every "Alaskan" gets a (welfare)check from the state government based on how much oil money the state gets, so even the biggest loser in Alaska can depend on that kind of state welfare to keep afloat.

I'll give her credit for being a tough woman who took on the oil companies to ensure the state got a better share of the profits. Democrats who underestimate her brains and toughness will be in for a surprise. Biden no doubt knows this (I hope).

The fact is Palin is far out of the mainstream, and if one is going to attack her, there is plenty of ammo. Her naked abuse of power disqualifies her. Her stance on abortion puts her at odds with the vast majority of Americans. Pushing creationism (and Demonology next one supposes) in the public schools is a big black mark.

Please folks, leave her kid alone. If you have to pick on her family, pick on her wimpy looking, whipped husband. Clearly she wears the pants in that family. I get the impression that he says "Yes dear" about 1245 times a day.

People who love the Palins - well, Alaskans in general, and then there's snow-mobilers, dog-sledders, oil drillers, Big Oil companies, and of course gunlovers galore headed up by the ubiquitous NRA - I almost forgot the creationists and pro-lifers. She's a right-winger's w*t dream alright......

It would be hard to snow mobile or dog sled in Washington, D.C. They already have cooks in the White House, so what will Master Palin do then?

I see lots of Alaska excursions in their future. C'mon folks - she belongs at PTA meetings. Is this really the person our country wants helping to shape America's foreign and domestic policies? The second in command?? In fact, she's to the right of McCain with her politics, if that's possible.

Just an absolutely bizarre nomination, all things considered. The lowest common denominator is never quite low enough for McCain and his gang - they've outdone themselves this time.

Here's your choice - the Dark Ages with McCain, or the Age of Enlightenment redux with Obama/Biden. It's just that simple......

Marc Edward:

With all the problems with Palin, it certainly seems counterproductive and stupid to make her kid(s) an issue. Attacking somebody's child, or spreading rumors about how they got the child is a Republican tactic that normal American find disgusting. As Presiden...I mean Senator Obama would say "We're better than this!"

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Here a "genius" who concludes Republicans are attacking their own VP candidate, governor Palin. Cult worship can do these things to a man's logic.

Whoever 'Anonymous' is sure seems to be a pious, holier than thou sort of person. But, one that is also spineless for being 'Anonymous'. Oh, and FYI,
did any of you know that the very day before McCain's pick of Palin was made public that someone using the name of one of Palins kids visited Wikipedia and made wholesale changes to the 'fact's' that Wikipedia had previously had about Palin? The changes were all to glorify Palin in bucket fulls of praise. Then I see the same burnished remarks copied and pasted here by supporters of Palin.
Who is zooming who?

To anonymous,
I never suggested that Mrs. Palin should have aborted her down syndrome child!
Read my comment again please! I was just wondering when she gets pregnant in office, how will she handle it?
Regarding McCain's chances of falling ill or dieing during his presidency, have you ever heard of dementia and at what age it normally starts to happen in men?

Reply to Maximina- when I go to church, that is catholic church I rarely see couples with more that 2 or 3 children. Could it be that they are on birth control? or using the rhythm method? My guess is that they are on birth control or the father has had a vasectomy. How hypocritical of them. If you are going to be a pro-lifer start at home! And start pushing out those babies by the dozens!