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Signs & Wonders: Sharon Stone's Bad Karma


Sharon Stone in a Dior ad. (Des Jenson - Bloomberg News)

In today's Signs & Wonders, I offer you an image of Sharon Stone.

To look upon Stone is to marvel, for she represents much of the glory and luxury of American society at the start of this new millennium: a stunningly beautiful, sexy fifty-year old woman who looks half her age (but better!), who's identity and career is her own, who is a firecracker and a philanthropist and who has an opinion on world events.

Tis that last wonderful trait though that has gotten Ms. Stone in a world o' trouble, with her comment last week that the devastating earthquake in China was karmic retribution for the Chinese government's treatment of Tibet.

Ms. Stone is coming from a world where you and I live, that is a world where news is served up to us daily on flat screens and crisp newspapers delivered quietly to our door. We use that information given to us to form opinions about the world and governments and events, and how they are connected and what they mean. It is our right to do so, it is a luxury to be engaged in such a way.

But then Ms. Stone said this last week at Cannes:
“I’m not happy about the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans because I don’t think anyone should be unkind to anyone else. And then the earthquake and all this stuff happened, and then I thought, is that karma? When you’re not nice that the bad things happen to you?”

Like many readers of Under God, Stone obviously has formed an understanding of the divine mechanics of the universe. Like many these days, she's using karma as a term to justify an understanding that everything happens for a reason. That's totally cool when what's happening is you're hot and you've got a Dior campaign, but it's not cool when you're saying a natural disaster that is reaching a death toll of more than 68,000 was deserved. I offer Stone, in all her glory, as a warning lesson to all of us who take in the world's news as an abstraction and think we can know the logic of divine justice. We can't.

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Comments (551)

Anonymous:

it's really stupid for her to say those words..
chinese government did nothing wrong!!
she said that without noticing the truth..

stupid..

George:

Sharon Stone is typical of most Hollywood Celebrities; out of touch with ordinary people and the world at large and prone to fad religious cults like that of the so-called Dali Lama - a man who misses his 1000 room palace and who's more concerned about lining his own pockets from gullible rich people. Perhaps it's Sharon Stone's karma to be a hasbeen b-movie star.

sloppyjournalismwon'thelp:

"Instead, the Japanese sought to light some candles in China rather than curse the darkness that could be arguably attributable to misguided China's policies. Most laudably, Tokyo responded instantly to Beijing's surprising request for Japan's Air Self Defense Forces to fly relief teams and equipment into the province of Sichuan. This was the first time since 1945 that Japanese military aircraft landed on Chinese soil."

This is day-dreamming, the japanese defence dept. imagined this, they use their own "free media" fabricating this "invitation" to enlarge and push their progress in "national mormality", which is important to their national self-esteem. they started from the very beginning to cheat on themsleves and japanese common people, the air force official lied to the reporter, the reporter issued "offcial said chinese invited our air force", like a "Ponzi scheme" and to the end Chinese authority allowed them fly NO air force plane "to China since 1945".

Chinese people allow russian, korean, even amrican air force to transport aid materials to the disaster area, but no Japanese, everyone but japanese.

This california "columnist"'d better be responsible to whatever he is saying in his articles. since to Americans, most of whom know no foreign languages, half of senates and congressmen have no US passport and never been abroad, English media seems the only way to provide them truth regarding the outside world. if a journalist made any small misinterpretation(intentedly or not), the mistake would amplify and propagate to the mass, and I believe, american's unique ignorance to the actual world is the root cuase of Iraq war and whatever your greedy and foolish behaviours in this "supposed to be peaceful" world.

Sloppy journalism won't help.

sloppyjournalistwon'thelp:

"Instead, the Japanese sought to light some candles in China rather than curse the darkness that could be arguably attributable to misguided China's policies. Most laudably, Tokyo responded instantly to Beijing's surprising request for Japan's Air Self Defense Forces to fly relief teams and equipment into the province of Sichuan. This was the first time since 1945 that Japanese military aircraft landed on Chinese soil."

This is day-dreamming, the japanese defence dept. imagined this, they use their own "free media" fabricating this "invitation" to enlarge and push their progress in "national mormality". they started from the very beginning to cheat on themsleves and japanese common people, and to the end Chinese authority allowed them fly NO air force plane to China since 1945.

Chinese people allow russian, korean, even amrican air force to transport materials to the disaster area, but no Japanese, everyone but japanese.

This california "columnist"'d better be responsible to whatever he is saying in his articles. since to Americans, most of whom know no foreign languages, half of the senates and congressmen have no US passport and never been abroad, English media seems the only way to provide them information regarding the outside world. if a journalist made any misinterpretation, the mistake would amplify and propergate to the mass, and I believe, american's unique ignorance to the world is the root cuase of Iraq war and whatever your greedy and foolish behaviours in this "supposed to be peaceful" world.

Anonymous:

Reply to Song:

What awake the world is how Chinese people behave in this incident. They are ridiculous.

Song:

Wow...Sharon Stone really brave to speak out what she thought. Her speech really awake the whole world like earthquake. I pray and hope that people will be more close and respect each other regardless of races, looks & religions.

Peace and Love

Anonymous:

Chinese people who are suffering as result of quake, deserve sympathy and support from world body.

Chinese officialdom is a different matter.

The shame Chinese officials are suffering today as a result of losses and suffering of people as a direct rsult of earthquake may not be a result of Karma.

Howevr, the ridicule that Chinese officials are suffering today can be attributed to their Karma.

For who knows the countless times Chinese officials have ridiculed less fortunate souls of their country and the even less fortunates of world at large.

words of wisdom:

Seattle times By Tom Plate / Syndicated columnist

The Hollywood Squares do China

LOS ANGELES — So now it's Sharon Stone. Before her, it was Steven Spielberg. And before him and her and it sometimes seems now and forever there was Richard Gere.

These are America's High Pontificators the Hollywood Squares of the world situation. They like to offer their special wisdom on what China is doing wrong, especially in Tibet. They like it so very much when people all over the globe actually take them seriously and listen to them. And they especially like it when China takes them seriously by getting furious with them.

As for us ordinary Americans — well, whatever would we do without the Hollywood Squares?

Stone, looking rather fetching, we must admit, in her skintight leopard dress at the Cannes Film Festival, offered the Cannes crowd this in-depth analysis of the tension in Tibet: "I'm not happy about the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans because I don't think anyone should be unkind to anyone else. And then the [Sichuan] earthquake and all this stuff happened, and then I thought, is that karma? When you're not nice that the bad things happen to you?"

Wow, what a great thought! Stone has this new theory that earthquakes are caused by bad government policies. Now please — and you know who you are — stop laughing. It is just theoretically conceivable that she is right. If she is, let us consider for a moment the enormously consequential implications.

For example, I live in Southern California, also known as Big Earthquake Country. We all sit around our pools, barbecues and Jacuzzis waiting for the Big One. We assume that some day it will come. While we're waiting, we smoke or drink different things to ease the pain of the future shocks.

But maybe just maybe if we had better government policies, we'd have fewer quakes here? Maybe if we pulled out of Iraq and finally improved our public schools and were nicer to immigrants.

If this is the case, then why are the Hollywood Squares wasting their advice on China and its earthquakes. What about California and our earthquakes?

If Sharon and for that matter Steven and Richard would just for once turn the focus and policy brilliance on what America is doing wrong karma-wise, then perhaps we can avoid having to endure Mother Nature at her meanest old witch worst.

I mean, why go through what the poor Chinese have had to endure these past few weeks?

In addition to warmly welcoming Stone's advice about counterproductive karmic government policies here, I'd like to widen that invitation to all the Hollywood Squares who have advice for foreign governments.

My advice is this: Maybe we Americans ought to work harder to get our own backyard in really good shape before we start nagging faraway neighborhoods about their shortcomings.

Look at Japan. It is most interesting that the Japanese, who actually live in China's neighborhood, managed to resist the temptation to hurl stones at China as Sharon did. Perhaps that's because many Japanese, unlike many Americans, have really good memories. They vividly recall their own Kobe quake of 1995. They recall that they reacted very poorly then — about as ineptly as the U.S. government reacted to Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

Instead, the Japanese sought to light some candles in China rather than curse the darkness that could be arguably attributable to misguided China's policies. Most laudably, Tokyo responded instantly to Beijing's surprising request for Japan's Air Self Defense Forces to fly relief teams and equipment into the province of Sichuan. This was the first time since 1945 that Japanese military aircraft landed on Chinese soil.

This is not to suggest that Hollywood's High Pontificators are cheap to dish out the charity. The whole world's heart has been touched by the tragedy. But as an editorial on the Taiwan Journal, the official weekly newspaper out of Taipei, put it: "Political disagreements and contentions between nations were relegated to the back burner as human survival prevailed over all other contending issues." Like China-rival Japan, even Taiwan — officially dubbed a runaway province by Beijing — lost no time in coming to China's aid.

The fact of the matter is that the Hollywood Squares are just too quick to dish out unwanted advice and judgments, and sometimes at the worst possible time. Sharon, of all people, should recall the New Testament warning (John 8:7): "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

UCLA professor Tom Plate lives in Beverly Hills, not far away enough from the huge San Andreas fault.

anonymous:

I'm not buddhist, but i think it's not useful to fight bad karma with bad karma.
Take it as a koan, which is Japanese and means public case. We harvest what we seed - that's karma.

Sharon Stone:

Anonymous, you are sore shXt loser. Pathetic.

you'r:

government brainwashed idiot.

Anonymous:

Reply to FREEIRAN:

OK, if you want to talk about the Iraq war, let's talk about it.

Saddam Hussein is a crazy man who raised two wars against Iran and Kuwait in a decade. If no one stops him, he will raise another war again in the future. Apparently, the Iraqi cannot stop him. So capture Saddam is certainly a right thing to do.

Of course, this righteous thing is costly to Americans. Each American paid around US$600-$800 to the Iraq war. Also, it was poorly executed by the Bush administration, damaging the international image of America and let anti-America to have excuses to discredit America.


You said, "you just pick whatever that best serves your argument,..." This is the whole point of arguing, stupid! Whatever the evidence I bring out, they best serve my argument. And I am proud of the fact that you admit this.

You said, "indeed, your arguments persuade and satisfy no one but yourselves." No, they will persuade lots of people who read this forum. Yes, lots of people. It is you and the Chinese patriots who failed to persuade the readers because you cannot bring out the best against my points.

Anonymous:

Reply to "Always on top".

(1) You said, "...viciously attacking another reasonable message". Tell me which the Chinese's messages are reasonable. Most of them are unreasonable and biased towards their own interests. They are selfish.

(2) You said, "This guy obviously is manning this forum day and night and making sure his hateful rant is always on top." What we can see here is that some Chinese patriots vandalized this forum whenever someone posts unfavorable messages against Chinese's recent behavior. This vandalizing behavior is certainly hateful.

(3) You said, "individual actions can't be used to attack a whole ethnic group,a whole region, let alone a whole country."

When Chinese blamed the western media for their bias, they forget that it is just some individual (the CNN reporter) who holds such an extreme view. But anyway, they blame all of the western media and say they are all biased.

When Chinese blamed the Tibetans for stirring up troubles during the Olympic torch passing, they maintained that it is just some individuals in Tibet who wants independence, as if these people can be ignored since they are minorities. Have Chinese ever conducted a survey to see how many Tibet want independence? If they dare to do so, they will find out most Tibetans do not like Chinese in Tibet.

The anti-foreigners opinions in China is so unanimous. If you ask a Chinese, you will hardly find someone who say Chinese or the Chinese government is wrong. Perhaps those Chinese who dare to say other Chinese are wrong were labeled as anti-Chinese (汉奸) and get killed already.

(4) You said, "Let's ignore this little guy and focus on the issue." You Chinese, of course, want people to ignore any message against China. Instead of arguing, all they know are just to "eliminate" the opposite views. Wanna to kill me?

Tibetan in Exile--we need money!:

Tibetan in Exile--we need money!:

Yes, our Holiness gets all the attention and money (though not from Sharon Stone) from your governments. But what about us who actually do the shouting, grabbing running around in costumes and waving? Sure we are born in the west and never been to China. But that is not the point. The point is that we need the Tibet issue to survive.

The recent events really helped us a lot with more financial support. But is this enough? Certainly not! We have about 30000 Tibetans living in the US. But we have hundreds of local organizations. They are getting very little money. For example, our "Free Tibet" local chapter in Utah only has a budget of just over 400000$. Why so stingy? I think the British is a little more generous. The Germans and French are talking tough but the money doesn't show. Those are peanuts. We get our lion's share from the US.

So please help us. We are really afraid that you will forget us after the Olympics are over. Please!

This Ma Jian is not that Ma Jian:

I think the Human rights Ma Jian was messed up in one of the post. The guy who does those things in the post is not a basketball player.

The Ma Jian who is in the human rights camp is a exiled writer who wrote: "Red Dust"; "Beijing Coma" etc.

Always on top:

This nameless guy is full of hatred towards Chinese. Yet he dares to say that he cares about the human rights of the Chinese people and viciously attacking another reasonable message.

This guy obviously is manning this forum day and night and making sure his hateful rant is always on top. This technique is the same as the Tibetan in exile on every forums in the US, knowing that many people will only read a few messages from the top.

One thing we should do is to avoid categorically attacking Chinese or Americans or any group of people. We should be aware that individual actions can't be used to attack a whole ethnic group,a whole region, let alone a whole country. Let's ignore this little guy and focus on the issue.

FREEIRAN:

"If you saw your neighbor beat up their children every day, a man with a good heart would certainly report the incidence to the police and social workers in order to save the children. "


FREE IRAQ!
when you report the Iraqi events to the police, and found the police itself is the neighbor and iraqis are beatean up by the police everyday in the police dept., you didn't get it, moron.

police? how pathetic is that.

As per you guys, Tibet was never a part of China, how come it become China's child?

you just pick whatever that best serves your argument, indeed, your arguments persuade and satisfy no one but yourselves, Stupid.

if you still don't get it, try to call the police next time when US invades Iran(heard scheduled in August), see how foolish are you "American people".


In fact, american people are not foolish at all, they are against the war, in the meantime are hunger for the iraqi oil filling into their cars, or they have to face $10/g gasoline one day!

FREE:

FREE GUANTANAMO!

Anonymous:

Reply to einbischen frieden:

6. You said, "these are all for the chinese to think about.....hope others focus on their own lives".

This "none of your business" attitude is foolish. Someone is helping you, but you don't even admit this and blame him.

No one, including Americans, wants to care about your Chinese business. But there are serious problems in China, and emotionally and politically, America and other developed countries have no choice but to intervene.

(1) Emotionally, no righteous person should ignore the fact that the Chinese government mistreated their people. It is not only about the human rights and the freedom of speech; it is also about the corruption in the Chinese government, the bad economic policies, the lies about economic data and social problems, the injustice due to unsound legal systems and one-party system, etc.

If you saw your neighbor beat up their children every day, a man with a good heart would certainly report the incidence to the police and social workers in order to save the children. Likewise, when America saw that the Chinese government mistreated their people each day, Americans, with a stronger moral sense than Chinese, try to give Chinese people a hand. But this plain good heart were often meticulously defaced by Chinese conspiracy theorists.

(2) Politically, if the Chinese people were not doing good, it may cause instabilities and problems to the world. Chinese people are funny: they think that people all around the world are biased and have no good intention towards China. (by contrast, those self-centered Chineses would not think about how biased their opinions about foreigners are, and what kind of good they did to other countries). This nationalism may turn China into something like Nazi Germany in World War II in the future. Therefore, the developed countries such as the US have no choice but to intervene China, hopefully helping this troublesome country back on the right track.

majian'sfan:

Are you real "Ma Jian"?

I am a basketball fan. I want your signiture! please leave it on this board, I mean, please type "Ma Jian" from your keyboard, that will work.

As a fan of yours, I have an idea to share with you.

Since you are so successful supporting FLG, democratic movement, Tibet, Xinjiang, Taiwan... each and every kinds of chinese dissidents in the western world, and made money from writing stories appeasing whatever americans' appitite. Why not broadcast online your experience in the West in a format of series articles, you know, you can write the mechanism how did you do in appeasing and satisfying american readers, politicians and whoever westerners living on mxxxxxbating their superioirity as "being a westerner". How the dissidents live in this civilized West and how "enlightened" people treat them, which is, of course far better than the Chinese did.

My suggestion is you firstly try to write it for free, weekly, for 3 to 4 weeks, grab lots of readers. Soon some publishing guys will come asking you sell them your stories exclusively, they will be definitly from Chinese side, since now in China, the publishing industry is booming, and the sale is always good, it will sell in much larger quantity than your book sold in the West, I garantee you make more money from Chinese readers. Don't worry about the authority, they would be glad to see you tell the chinese what happened while you are in the West as a dissident and how the western propaganda is cooked.

This book is targeted on the Chinese market, in the meantime, you can still write and sell stories about how bad China is for your western audience, which is your basic reader group and income source, then in both channels you could be a popular figure, a cultural icon, more celebrated than you were as a basketball star. You even could make a big fortune from this, which is obviously better than your condition now doing anything for whatever gives you money.

Ma Jian, I never thought I could meet you, though online, it was a pleasure talking to you. Hope you'd be doing good.

majian'sfan:

Are you real "Ma Jian"?

I am a basketball fan. I want your signiture! please leave it on this board, I mean, please type "Ma Jian" from your keyboard, that will work.

As a fan of yours, I have an idea to share with you.

Since you are so successful supporting FLG, Tibet, Xinjiang, Taiwan... each and every kinds of dissidents in the western world, and made money from writing stories appeasing whatever americans' appitite. Why not broadcast online your experience in the West in a format of series articles, you know, you can write the mechanism how did you do in appeasing and satisfying american readers, politicians and whoever westerners living on mxxxxxbating their superioirity as "being a westerner". How the dissidents live in this civilized West and how "enlightened" people treat them, which is, of course far better than the Chinese did.

My suggestion is you firstly try to write it for free, weekly, for 3 to 4 weeks, grab lots of readers. Soon some publishing guys will come asking you sell them your stories exclusively, they will be definitly from Chinese side, since now in China, the publishing industry is booming, and the sale is always good, it will sell in much larger quantity than your book sold in the West, I garantee you make more money from Chinese readers. Don't worry about the authority, they would be glad to see you tell the chinese what happened while you are in the West as a dissident and how the western propaganda is cooked.

This book is targeted on the Chinese market, in the meantime, you can still write and sell stories about how bad China is for your western audience, which is your basic reader group and income source, then in both channels you could be a popular figure, a cultural icon, more celebrated than you were as a basketball star. You even could make a big fortune from this, which is obviously better than your condition now doing anything for whatever gives you money.

Ma Jian, I never thought I could meet you, though online, it was a pleasure talking to you. Hope you'd be doing good.

gokillyourself:

"5. If I were you, I will kill myself for saying these stupid things."

-then go kill yourself, Stupid.

Anonymous:

Reply to einbischen frieden:


1. You said "the chinese know what are human rights". The point is not that Chinese people don't know what are human rights; The point is China *do not have* human rights.

2. You said "they also do not need to listen to people from thousand miles away, and who have never visited china to tell them how to live." Failed to listen is a common problem among Chinese. The meaning of the word "China" is "the center of the world", because they do not respect people around the world. No wonder why China was so lag behind technologically and culturally in last several hundreds years. And when I learn about these types of comments from people like you, I feel that China will not catch up the world for another 100 years at least.

3. You said "when some americans are judging others' "bad human rights record", they forget their human rights violation in Iraq. they also forget why martin luther king was assasinated in the 1960s." At least, the US did not violate the human rights of their own citizens. The Martin Luther King is about the civil rights, not human rights. Civil rights is somethings that is even higher than human rights. When the US and the west get done with human rights, they begin to talk civil rights, etc. When Chinese people said "Tibetans do not have right to talk about independence" This is lack of civil rights for Tibetans. When China doesn't even have human rights, how they can have civil rights? Probably another 100 years, I think.

4. You said, "i suggest some americans find some more sensible things to do". This indicates Chinese people are ignorants---all they know is work work work, and never tried to improve their mental and cultural qualities. Tell you what: Chinese culture sucks, the western culture rocks. Chinese has produced nothing to enhance the mankind in the last 500 years. If China disappeared from the earth, the modern world would not be too different.


5. If I were you, I will kill myself for saying these stupid things.

robertaP:

Sharon Stone’s comment about Katrina.

News Reporter: Did you hear know about the typhoon in New Orleans?

Stone: Of cause I have. You know, it’s very interesting about that since first, I’m not
happy about the way USA treats the Iraqis because I think anyone should not be unkind to
anyone else. And so I am being very concerned about the election of the next president
of the US and A, because we had not being nice to Saddam Hussein, who is a good friend of
mine. And Katrina typhoon ,and all the stuff happened, and I thought, is that Karma?
When you’re not nice that the bad things happen. And then I got a letter from the Iraqi
Foundation that they want me to go and be helpful. This made me cry. And they asked me if I
will write a quote to that, and I said I would that it was a big lesson to me, that
sometimes you have to learn to put your face down and be a dog to the person who aren’t
nice to you. And that is a big lesson to me.

RIGHTS!:

IRAQIS, DON'T BE ENSLAVED BY AMERICANS!

STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!

Anonymous:

Reply to georgeB:

You are wrong. Chinese people should apologize to Miss Stone for misinterpreting her comments---she didn't say that the earthquake victims deserve to die; it is some Chinese patriots who meticulously accuse her of saying this.

Basically, the furious Chinese patriots like you hate every foreigner for no reason. If those Chinese losers are not doing well in their own country, they should blame their government, or not someone else.

Don't try to present the 1.3 billion Chinese people; I know some Chinese people do not agree with you.

GENOCIDE:

STOP THE GENOCIDE IN IRAQ!

THEYREVIL:

STOP EVIL AMERICANS DESTORYING IRAQI CULTURE AND RELIGION!

STOP STUPID AMERICANS!

BRINGTOJUSTICE:

STOP AMERICANS KILLING IRAQIS

AND

BRING TO JUSTICE THE KILLERS!

makelovenotwar:

MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!

freeiraq!:

FREE IRAQ!
FREE MIDDLE EAST!
FREE THE WHOLE WORLD!

Somebody:

The Dalai Lama can be reborn anywhere he wants to be. He has already stated categorically that if Tibet is still under the thumb of the evil Chinese government, when the time comes for the 15th Dalai Lama to be born, he will be born OUTSIDE TIBET. So the Chinese government cannot "identify" a new Dalai Lama (as if they even understood the process by which this is done)without the whole world knowing that he is a fake, chosen by the Chinese government to be a tool to help enslave the Tibetan people even more.

Remember what happened to the real Panchen Lama? He and his family are in prison, if not dead. And the Chinese government "identified" another child and claim that he is the real Panchen Lama. Everyone knows that this is a lie.

The REAL 15th Dalai Lama will be born to a Tibetan family in exile and will be the leader of his people both inside and outside Tibet, until the Chinese government stops its evil suppression of Tibetan religion and culture. The Tibetan people will never accept a Dalai Lama chosen by the evil Chinese government. Tibetan culture will survive, in spite of the best efforts of the racist Chinese.

einbischen frieden:

just can not understand why many people here relate a horrible disaster with the policies of the chinese governmenet. and even about the chinese policitcs back to the 1960s.

i also do not think most americans are very interested in the chinese politics.
the critics are perhaps two groups.
one is chinese exiles who bring every dirty story to the States trying to find some helps to take revenge.
the second group is the real americans who have been brainwashed by sources with specific purposes day after day, year after year about the "evil chinaman".

i saw an american young man yelling at the chinese students in Duke Univeristy, " human rights are essential!"
this kind of teaching is not necessary for the chinese. the chinese know what are human rights. they also do not need to listen to people from thousand miles away, and who have never visited china to tell them how to live.

when some americans are judging others' "bad human rights record", they forget their human rights violation in Iraq. they also forget why martin luther king was assasinated in the 1960s.

when the chinese think about the united states, it is a just country which is a pacific ocean away. what is happening in that country actually has nothing to do with their busy everyday lives.
similary, i suggest some americans find some more sensible things to do, instead of living in a " i do not like china" delusion.
tibetans, falung gong, taiwanese, the list goes on...... these are all for the chinese to think about.
i know this is not easy, because some people are earning money from "fundation this and foundation that" for their everyday bread through hating china. but hope others focus on their own lives.




georgeB:

sharon stone insincere apology(first she denied that she ever spoke about this karma incidence(it was recorded),then she accused the Dior apology without her permission,Chinese will not forgive her & will continue to boycott her in her financial dealings & any others associated with her) came after a week later of her evil acusation of chinses deserved this deadly earthquake. Ask the victims & the dead(70,000, 20,000 missing,370,000 people badly injured) whether they will accept apology or forgive stone. scores of children became parentless,homeless,mentally devasted, parents became childless.There are so much pain and suffering has been involved. Donation from Overseas Chinese & Chinese embassy in Paris sent nearly 3000 tents via airbus A380 arrived in quake area 5/31/08 for the tibetans suffered the quake in Aba area. Majority of tibetans in China considered themselves tibetan chinese & do not want to separate from China. Their lives have improve tremendously(there are lots of school,hospitals,roads,(railway carry lots of fresh foods,vegetables,fruits reduce 70% in price) compare to when dalia lama(lots of poverty,corruptions) was ruling that area. tibet is self rule by tibetans with the central government supply of funds.There are always a few trouble makers in every racial group & they cannot detate policy for the majority tibetans whom they want to remain with China.
Jerk Sharon Stone:public enemy of all mankind.

You stupid old jerk You deserve nothing but the darkest hell! You gained your fame by exposing your body and having your jerkover and over again. Nothing in the universe is as ugly as your jerk heart.

We don’t accept your apology, and we definitely don’t need your pathetic help! Do the world a favour, keep your jerk out of our sight! The territories of China don’t welcome jerk like you! Your movies will neverbe allowed in cinemas in China, so you were not famous there.Now over 1.3 billion people in the world will hate you to the bone from now on. Your lousy movies will never show in China. Thousands of souls of the earthquake victims suffering will haunt you in your dreams, until you break down, you obsolete unscrupulous jerk!

From a furious Chinese
On behalf of a nation with a population of 1.3 billion who will not forgive you for your evilness.

A NEW DALA LAMA is COMING:

Basically, the current 14th Dala Lama knows he is dying. The next 15th Dala Lama will be recognised within the land of China. That will be the end of those a few thouthands people associated with 14th Dala Lama, as they have to give away their luxry life and further more become back peasants (thankfully not slaves anymore). That is why they raise their dirty activities, cause they must do now, time is running out, before 14th dala Lama dying.

I guess next stratagy of those thugs could be to stop Dala Lama institution so that they can hold their priviledges. They are just thinking about their own selfishly. I wonder how those dumb hollywood stars cope with 15th Dala Lama. Hey this is the spirit of Tibet. Obey it!

Anonymous:

Reply to the comments on June 4, 2008 11:04 PM.


I should have noticed that some Chinese people simply don't know what "reasoning" is. So let me tell them how to reason.

If you don't agree with someone's opinions, you cannot label him as your enemy first and say all of his comments are malicious. This just shows how unreasonable you are.

Instead, you should find some evidence against his statements. For example, if you don't agree with some of the opinions in this forum, show us the following:

(1) "Chinese people intentionally misinterpreted Miss Stone's remark" is false---show us Miss Stone had ever said the victims in the earthquake deserve to die.

(2) "The recent Chinese patriots are as bad as those red guards in the Cultural Revolution" is false---show us they have not physically or emotionally attacked people (e.g., Miss Wang at Duke University).

(3) "The Chinese government lied to their people." is false---show us the information in the Chinese media have never been tampered by the government.

(4) "The western media would not lie to you..." is false---show us some events in which *most* of the western media have made up some stories *themselves* and lied to the people. Notice that this excludes the situations in which the information sources (e.g., the Bush government) lies to the media---in these situations, it is not the media's fault because they simply verbally copied the original information from the sources.

(5) "The bad guys in the Chinese government tried all sorts of tricks to avoid the monitoring of their behavior in order to stay in power" is false---show us that they haven't suppressed the opposite voices and rejected the ideas such as "the separation of powers", which has shown to be very effective in monitoring of the misconducts in the government.

(6) "Don't say you helped Tibet a lot; you are exploiting Tibetan" is false---that is, show us that the helps offered by Chinese have no selfish intention.

(7) "The modern Chinese history is full of shXts caused by your government" is false---show us the historical tragedies such as Cultural Revolution and "1989 Tiananmen Square massacre", etc were not due to the evil minds in your government.

instarx:

Another star brought back to reality. I've seen it again and again - a star, politician, or CEO has had their ego fed to the point that they think whatever comes out of their mouths is wisdom. How many hangers-on had agreed with Ms. Stone or shook their heads in agreement when she spoke this stupidity in the past? They know who butters their bread.

Eventually one of these insulated geniuses speaks out in public and is amazed to find out that not everyone is a yes-man.

Anonymous:

Reply to the comment on June 4, 2008 10:58 PM:

When I attack the behavior of Chinese people and their government, I have never labeled myself as a member of Falun gong, Tibetans, or Taiwanese, etc.

The freedom of speech is free in the west; it is not necessary to fight for any resource in order to openly comment about the misconducts among Chinese people.

If western people hear about comments against their misconducts, they will reason with you; if Chinese people hear about comments against their misconducts, they will find ways to attack the commenter's personality.


Anonymous:

Reply to the comments on June 4, 2008 4:31 PM.

Miss Stone didn't blame the victims; she showed her sympathy to the victims in the earthquake too.

But her remarks also showed her sympathy to the Tibetan people who suffered from the oppression of the Chinese government. Even if you don't agree with her sympathy towards Tibetan people, don't misinterpret her remarks and say that she blamed the victims in the earthquake, in order to attack her personality.

attack China for money:

Falun Gong just lost a law suit in CA. They will mess up every Chinese new year parade in major cities. But San Francisco banned them. So they filed law suit and lost. They were ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars of legal fee. I guess they need to raise more funds now. But don't worry, Li Hongzhi lives in penthouse in Manhattan and owns several other places. These guys are magic fund raisers thanks to their ferocious hatred toward China and the Chinese people.

attack China for money:

One of the financial support sources for these Falun gong, dissidents, and Tibetans is from Taiwan. The 100 or so dissidents formed 40-50 organizations and fighting for resources. You will understand why one of them is on this forum attacking Chinese relentlessly. See the following link.

http://zonaeuropa.com/20050912_3.htm

walter chang:

as a chinese, i do wish the existence of a karma god, who constantly oversee this world with his just. however, in reality human being in this cruel world gets more furious, chinese, japnese, western people, jews, arab----, you name it, all feel the karma god keeps his distance to us! then some people tricks in to play god! this is my plane view.

Anonymous:

1)Sharon Stone is entitled to give that comment.
2)Chinese people are entitled to hate her for that comment.
3)Dior is entitled to pull her ad out of China.
4)Dior is entitled to keep her ad outside China.
5)Chinese people all over the world are entitled to stop buying Dior for its continued association with her outside China.
6)Americans, Europeans, Japanese etc are entitled to whatever opinion they have about that comment of hers.
7)One thing for sure, she stands to lose over $50 million for her comment. That is karma."

Paul:

I may have been so so wrong but Karma was the first thing I thought that came into play when i heard about this disaster. I don't wish harm on anyone or any culture but i sometimes think the universe has a very cruel and un bias way of balancing things out.

please understand this is only a thought and i deeply apologize if i am offensive or just plain stupid in any way.

Ms. Stone is an idiot:

Yes the chinese government is 100% corrupt, run by children of the red guard. Yes the Chinese are ruled by a murderous, authoritarian government that is polluting, stealing, and profiting from the deaths of those who use the products it's paid-off inspectors and bribed local political officials can spew into the food supply.

However, the average Chinese citizens are honorable, hard working, and deserve respect and assistance like any other human in trouble.

Sharon Stone's classless remark is right up there with Jerry Falwell's comments about 9/11.

Blaming the victim - nice touch

Anonymous:

The Story of Tibet and her Greedy Neighbor

Ancient Tibet is a weak country. To prevent the invasion of Chinese, Tibetan paid tributes to Chinese and let them use their resources. At first, peaceful Tibetan wanted to befriend this neighbor. But what they don't realize is that this neighbor is a rogue: after conveniently taking advantages of Tibetan for such a long time, they start to forget that Tibet is not theirs.

Now Tibetan wants to stop this relationship, but Chinese blames Tibetan for dividing their "own" country. What kind of asXhole Chinese are!

What this stories teach us is that NEVER NEVER treat Chinese too friendly and give them any advantage; once they get used to the benefits you give them, they forget who you are. When you stop giving them the benefits, they say you are bad and bite you.

To all greedy Chinese: If something is not yours, don't touch it; it will cost you.

Sharon Stone:

To Anonymous:

You are fuXking sore loser!

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