Is Obama the Messiah? People are asking these days and it's not so hard to understand why: the desperate throngs, the tears, the great awakening of a slumbering demographic. All that larger symbolism.
The emotional landscape of many American voters is calamitous of late -- frightened by our Babylonian war, unhappy with our President and depressed by the cleansing crush of the credit crunch -- so it's not surprising that the coming presidential election would take on a certain biblical coloring.
The Messiah question is a loud one coming from all corners. Even a blogger for Mother Jones, the hot heart of the far left, worries that the Obama-passion will be used for nefarious purposes by right-wingers, he himself writes "Barack Obama has a messiah complex and no one will convince me otherwise."
The salty 62-year old Chris Matthews of MSNBC puts the phenomenon of Obama on the good book scale, telling the NY Observer that "I’ve been following politics since I was about 5. I’ve never seen anything like this. This is bigger than Kennedy. [Obama] comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament. This is surprising.”
Timothy Noah has been on his "Messiah Watch" for over a year now for online magazine Slate though he says he doesn't suggest it is Obama that believes in himself as the second coming but rather "that a few excitable souls in the media bear the apparant conviction that Obama is the Redeemer."
And of course, in case you doubt how deep into the zeitgeist this has gone, the blog "Is Barack Obama the Messiah?" is bursting with visual evidence.
I turned to my friend Joel Stein, who wrote a column for the LA Times last week on Obamaphilia -- the notion that many, including Joel, have developed an unbecoming infatuation with the Senator from Illinois.
ME: So Joel, did it ever occur to you that it wasn't a crush you were experiencing with Obama but a religious revelation?
Joel: I'm pretty sure my feelings for Obama is a crush, but maybe it's a relgious revelation. I've never had one of those....
ME: Describe your feelings when you watch him.
Joel: When I see him, I actually don't feel great. I feel like I do at a comedy club, only instead of "Make me laugh, asshole" it's like, "Make me care." And then he does make me care. Which shocks me even more, because my guard is up. Dude is good. Like Dave Attell good.
ME: Do you think a messiah would work well as a president?
Joel: The messiah would make an excellent president. I had a photo above my desk at Time of Reagan campaigning for President, and he's standing on the bumpers of two parked cars with his arms out, just radiating. That's half the job, making people feel saved. And Obama does that. If you make people feel like you can save them, half of them are already saved. You've seen There Will Be Blood. You know how it works.
ME: Being Jewish, Joel, how would that messiah as president shake out for you?
Joel: Being Jewish, I don't feel good about feeling moved by any speakers. I'm programmed so I'm only comfortable if they're boring the crap out of me. Preferably in an ancient, unattractive language. My Mom, who's a huge Hillary supporter, keeps saying he's a preacher, which she means negatively. And it makes me feel uncomfortable from a racial perspective when she says it. But she's not entirely wrong. And I kind of like it. Maybe I'd like church.
ME: One last question -- your mom compares him to a preacher and says it's negative, and all these articles out there say coverage is too positive, and
you yourself worry about your girlish crush. So is it wrong to be so positive in politics?
Joel: It's scary to be positive about a politician. You know you're going to regret it because no President in my lifetime has ever even met the limited expectations I've had - and now I have huge expectations. It's like joining a cult or the PTL Club. You're going to have to explain your enthusiasm for the rest of your life when it all unravels. I'm sure someone was as passionate as I am about Obama about Richard Nixon.
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I am mor einclined to believe that Obama is the Antichris before I believe he is the messiah. Prophecy indicates a false messiah and let me tell you, he fits the bill. From his geneology to his speaking skills. They say the antichirst will come to power from hardly any experience, be foriegn, will not deny God, but will neither be a follower, will promise "peace and change" to a world torn between war...will convice MANY that he is godly and MANY will follow, except those who have studied and who accept the truth about what he is. Prophecy also indicates the antichrist as the "fourth beast"... kinda ironic that we are in the middle of the 44th presidential election... hmmm, Obama the messiah? Far from it... but Obama the Antichrist??? Yeah.. he gets my VOTE for that role!
February 23, 2008 1:22 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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February 21, 2008 10:02 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 21, 2008 10:02
Athena-
"Who's being fluffy now?"
Well.. reading your post- its Obama's resume. Is that all there is? Surely you can shake something more substantive out. If not- get ready for the Republicans to poke a hole in it.
February 20, 2008 6:51 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 20, 2008 18:51
Here's the answer, direct from the Congressman who had a "senior moment" on national TV.
So . . . That really happened.
On Tuesday night, after an important and historic victory in the Wisconsin Presidential Primary by Senator Barack Obama, I appeared on the MSNBC post-election program. “Hardball” host Chris Matthews (who is, it turns out, as ferocious as they say), began grilling me on Senator Obama’s legislative record.
And my mind went blank. I expected to be asked about the primary that night, or the big one coming up in Texas on March 4, or just about anything else in the news. When the subject changed so emphatically, I reached for information that millions of my fellow Obama supporters could recite by heart, and I couldn’t summon it.
My most unfortunate gaffe is not, in any way, a comment on Senator Obama, his substantial record, or the great opportunity we all share to elect him President of the United States.
Had I not lost my mind, here are the accomplishments I would have mentioned:
* Senator Obama’s fight for universal children’s health care in Illinois.
* His success bringing Republicans and Democrats together (a huge selling point for me in general) on bills such as the one in Illinois requiring police interrogations and confessions to be videotaped.
* His leadership on ethics reform in Washington (the bill that lobbyists and special interests are complaining about right now has his name on it).
* His bill to make the federal budget far more transparent and accessible to Americans via the Internet – we could use that openness in Texas.
* And his vital work with Republicans to lock down nuclear weapons around the world.
http://www.kirkwatson.com/media/whats-new/2008/02/20/msnbc-and-me/
But, it's much more intellectually lazy to compare someone to Easter candy than to actually look up what happened. Who's being fluffy now?
February 20, 2008 4:51 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 20, 2008 16:51
Athena
As I mentioned before- you have to squeeze the Easter candy hard before you know if it is filled with wonderful things or just hollow air.
Hard questions should not worry you -unless you are afraid of the answers..
February 20, 2008 1:07 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 20, 2008 13:07
Yeah, and Chris Matthews allowed a staffer of his to replace a picture of Obama with a picture of Osama Bin Laden. Come on. We expect immature stunts like that out of Fox Snooze, not a real network. Tweety needs to get over his man-crush on John McCain.
February 20, 2008 11:01 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 20, 2008 11:01
Chris Matthews finally asks a few hard questions
to the wrong person:
"Texas State Senator Kirk Watson (D-TX) learned a lesson in preparedness Tuesday night when he was humiliated on MSNBC. Watson was on to talk about his support of Senator Obama alongside Representative Stephanie Tubbs (D-OH), who backs Senator Clinton. Watson has endorsed Obama and writes glowingly of all the things Obama will do for the country, if elected.
But he was unable to answer Chris Matthews most basic demand: "Name some of his legislative accomplishments... name any..." A fantastically awkward mix of dead air, stuttering, laughter and repetition ensued, as Watson could not name a single one. Matthews laid off part way through, it seems at the demand of his producers, but came back around to lay a final blow at the end.
Watch what must be the most awkward clip of the night's coverage":
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/19/chris-matthews-humiliates_n_87493.html
February 20, 2008 7:26 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 20, 2008 07:26
With all due respect to Ms. Hoffman I think that to address the question she posits clearly I would need to know just who is wondering if Senator Obama is "the messiah" and what is the motivation ofr asking such a question.
The many people I speak with regularly are not pondering this and I'm a bit off put by even the thought that this is some how a serious inquiry.
So to help me understand what the question means please help me to become familiar with those who are asking it.
But I must admit that it is more than a bit amusing that some in the ether continually remind us that Senator Obama's middle name is Hussain and that his father was a Muslim while others out the in cyberworld are pondering the messianic implications of the Senator's appearance on the scene.
I can't wait to see what comes next!
February 20, 2008 5:38 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 20, 2008 05:38
SANDRA:
Nettiquete dictates that typing in capital letters is SHOUTING. You don't need to shout, we can hear you.
Advice to the Newbies: Learn the names of the retards and just skip them. There are some excellent contributors here. Mine for them like gold nuggets.
February 19, 2008 10:59 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 22:59
Paganplace - thanks for making my point but without the sarcasm.
February 19, 2008 6:28 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 18:28
"It is sad that the country is dumbed down enough to buy into this fraud; so far he hasn't said anything beyond "hope" and "change"."
Actually, the only dumbing down in this case is you parroting that soundbyte about a man who's voiced and stood up for his principles plenty.
But if a Democrat *speaks* these things, they get called a 'liberal elite out of touch with the people.'
Don't complain about the 'dumbing down.'
Smarten up.
February 19, 2008 5:38 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 17:38
" Birdman:
Your favorite candidate (put name here) is the only one who could possibly lead the nation in this time of crisis. All other candidates are fatally flawed."
Hardly. Hillary's my third choice, admittedly, but I still could fully-support her. I'm just of the opinion that her wonderful skills lie in doing well a way of doing the government's business that I'm fair tired of.
I've got a lot of respect for her and would supposrt her as a President, I just like Obama a lot more, on the issues as well as leadership issues I think are even more important at this juncture.... And I also liked Edwards a bit better than Hillary on the labor issues.
I think she'd be a great and competent President, but the fact is I don't see her emboldening the Democrats like we hoped they'd be when we finally got them back into the majority.
It's a good time to be a Democrat. No nose-holding whatsoever, whoever gets the nod.
February 19, 2008 5:35 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 17:35
It is sad that the country is dumbed down enough to buy into this fraud; so far he hasn't said anything beyond "hope" and "change". Of course the alternative is Hillary - God give us strength - this is what the Democratic Party offers us.
February 19, 2008 4:11 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 16:11
Your favorite candidate (put name here) is the only one who could possibly lead the nation in this time of crisis. All other candidates are fatally flawed.
Supporters of any candidate other than your chosen are clearly crazy, especially if they show "passion", as there can be no logical reasons (other than brainwashing) that anyone could possibly come up with to support any one else.
February 19, 2008 4:10 PM | Report Offensive Comments
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February 19, 2008 2:32 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 14:32
Oh, now they use Bush, the national embarrassment, as a reason to claim *Obama* has no substance?
(Bush went to Yale, btw,)
Don't blame Obama if the media greets *discussion* of detail with a yawn and claims one is out of touch and boring. It's not like it's that hard to find his positions on things.
February 19, 2008 2:21 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 14:21
SVREADER
So Obama is "Bush in sheep's clothing" because he talks about working together? I think that is about as silly as Obama-mania being a cult.
February 19, 2008 2:16 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 14:16
Barak Obama is the "Paris Hilton" of Politics.
He's a blank-slate that people project their fantasies onto.
Thanks to him and his supporters, there's a good chance we'll wind up with another "empty suit" and bypass the candidate with the vision and policy expertise we need as a country and a planet.
George Bush ran as "A uniter, not a divider" "someone who can change the tone in washington" "someone who can reach across the isle" "A man of Character" "A Harvard Man"
Obama's running on the exact same platform and is just as full of hot air.
Are we going to fall for the same old "con-job" again???
February 19, 2008 1:55 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 13:55
How very silly, if dangerous.
I think the Right are just in a panic cause after far too many years of saying the candidates liberals can get behind are 'unelectable cold fish' ...now we have someone that shoes energy and passion and really good leadership skills.
Just because he speaks well doesn't mean he's any less reason-and-reality-based.
It's not as though the Democrats fall short in the ideas department, but they seem to have long been plagued by some difficulty carrying a message across, particularly with a corporate media that would much rather talk about haircuts and personality than the substance of the issues...
Now they complain he doesn't speak like John Kerry.
The country needs these leadership skills most of all, ...along *with* competence and the good stuff he brings to the table.
Pardon if we get a bit excited about the guy, he's been a long time coming. :) But 'Messiah?' What's that, code for those Fundies who claim the Antichrist is going to be a black man?
February 19, 2008 1:15 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 13:15
Breaking news: Obama is a mere mortal not a saint. He still inspires a lot of people to vote, including the traditionally apathetic young demographic. As Athena noted, he does have a similar message to that of St. Reagan. He might even win back some former Reagan democrats and solidify a new generation of solid progressive voters.
February 19, 2008 1:12 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 13:12
James McBride asked his white mother, "What color is God?" She responded, "God is the color of water." He asked, "What color am I?" She responded "You are a human being.".....
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/02/11/barack-obama-the-color-of-water/
February 19, 2008 12:39 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 12:39
If Obama-mania is a "cult", then what do you call the worship of Saint Ronnie Reagan on the Republican side? I mean, the Republicans couldn't even wait until he was dead before they started naming things after him. Debates were held at his holy shrine...er... library and the Republicans were all fighting each other to see how many times they could invoke Saint Ronnie.
IMHO, Obama-mania is primarily among younger people, who are quite passionate about everything. It's a generational thing. I see this clearly in talking to my parents, who are strongly for Hillary. (I wasn't originally for Obama, but voted for him because my other choices were eliminated by the time that Maryland voted.) Ironically, Obama is using the same message as Saint Ronnie was - that Americans are down but not out, and we can do anything that we put our minds to. I think that seeing younger voters excited about the political process is a good thing.
To the Millennial Generation, race doesn't matter as much. They grew up idolizing Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Will Smith, etc., regardless of whether they were black or white.
February 19, 2008 12:38 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 12:38
A friend of mine emailed me a link to this column. What a waste of words it is too. "Journalmaism" light indeed.
February 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 11:39
Just another jew working the campaign to discredi Obama so Hillary, (whom the jews deteremine to be "airtight" on Israel, i.e.
cave into anything they want) can win.
Too obvious, too ugly, and it'll backfire.
In fact, many of us have wondered whether the
Israel first types figure they have taken over the US, and can do anything, prevail anywhere...
or if they're desperate.
The latter. And look forward to the whining when
anti-semetic feelings explode...for the war, for Wall Street, for the way the world hates us
History again.
February 19, 2008 11:38 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 11:38
If the Messiah is an Christen concept than I do not buy it that Obama is the Messiah. Far more likely he is Mohammad! Peace be onto you and death to all not, of the true faith!
February 19, 2008 11:18 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 11:18
With the exception of St Reagan for conservatives, most politicians don't measure up to the hopes of the voters. I don't see a cult, I see the political process. Right now, Obama is doing a good job of generating excitement among voters across a lot of demographics. Hillary has her rabid supporters as well.
February 19, 2008 11:12 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 11:12
Mr. Meacham and Ms. Quinn, your "On Faith" project has completely jumped the tracks with this article, which belongs under political commentary, not a discussion of God and theology.
February 19, 2008 10:21 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 10:21
Mr. Meacham, your "On Faith" project has really jumped the tracks with this article, which belongs under political commentary.
February 19, 2008 10:17 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 10:17
I see these comments and think a more appropriate question would be: How many people see Barack Obama as the Ant-Christ?
There are some truly demented Obama-haters out there. Claire Hoffman is all too willing to feed their madness, with her ill-timed, ill-considered and mean-spirited tripe.
I'm embarrassed for her.
February 19, 2008 10:09 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 10:09
Are we Americans looking for some kind of super-charismatic soul coming to magically solve our problems???
Hey America Super-man does not exist... he's not going to rescue us....
Obama is just a mirage that please our terrible lack of common sense... another kind of drug that promises its fake pleasures.... The rest of the world is laughing at us watching this show...
America let's vote a real president, it isn't time for games...
Pat
February 19, 2008 10:04 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 10:04
This is such a stupid topic. There is this Obama=Jim Jones thing going around that conservative commentators have gotten sick with recently.
February 19, 2008 9:53 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 09:53
I think all of this fervor over Obama...the crying, the fainting....is starting to become a little creepy.
February 19, 2008 9:39 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 09:39
Not only is it religious - it is ENTERTAINMENT modelled on the daytime talk show, evening news, and Hollywood tonight. Thanks Oprah!
February 19, 2008 9:23 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 09:23
Personally I feel that Obama would do a great job as president, and I endorse him.
But a Messiah complex? Please. Obama is just trying to turn us around before we hit catastrophe. Although not extremely similar, he might be this generations Theodore Roosevelt as president, what with all all his talk of changing the world, as Teddy Roosevelt did at the turn of the century.
February 19, 2008 9:06 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 09:06
Personally I feel that Obama would do a great job as president, and I endorse him.
But a Messiah complex? Please. Obama is just trying to turn us around before we hit catastrophe. Although not extremely similar, he might be this generations Theodore Roosevelt as president, what with all all his talk of changing the world, as Teddy Roosevelt did at the turn of the century.
February 19, 2008 9:06 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 09:06
From the op-ed pieces, the blogs, and comments like these, there's a lot of "religious" fervor and irrational argumentation used for and against Obama. We are being (as always) manipulated by a media that enjoys creating fights, even when there really isn't one.
In reality, Obama and Clinton are nearly identical in policy and position, and both have some limited experience. Obama has substantially more legislative experience, while Clinton has more experience with Washington and the white house. And either way, the democrats elect a very moderate candidate.
Those of you writing in all caps, or using idiotic expressions like "messianic" (for or against), or throwing out absurd hyperbole suggesting one has "no experience" or the other is "just a washington insider" are cheapening a debate on a complicated and subtle subject. If you honestly believe these candidates are so radically different that you (as a supporter of one) have the higher ground with which to viciously attack supporters of the other, you clearly aren't reading their positions on the issues.
Clinton is no more specific than Obama, and Obama is no more an "agent of change" than she is. Don't let the media and their spin characterize the debate for you ... go out to their web sites and their official statements and READ their positions and policy proposals. Look at their voting records. You will find you are choosing between two middle-ground candidates with few real differences.
For example: Both are equally vague about how they will handle withdrawal in Iraq, and both are equally specific about how their respective healthcare plans will work ... plans, incidentally that differ only slightly. Both have exactly the same position on issues involving same-sex marriage and civil unions. Even their disagreements about what kind of diplomacy to engage in with "rogue" nations amount to semantic variations of the same basic policies.
Both are spinning like mad, both are distorting facts and the records of their opponents, both are spending money like crazy, both want very much to be President. Both have cool-headed, rational supporters with good reasons for their support, and both have irrational mouth-foamers.
It's very easy and lazy to oversimplify and insult. Here's a clue that you've lost perspective: If you believe that those who support the opposing candidate cannot possibly have any good justification for their position beyond having been conned by the spin or the media, you've lost perspective. That's a silly false generalization.
To those holding such a view: Can we ratchet down the rhetoric a bit and restore some civility to this conversation? Extreme comments indicate (to me) a weakness in one's argument.
To the media: Can you stop running ridiculous stories like this one and concentrate on teasing out the subtle policy differences so we can make informed, rational choices? It's hard enough to needle out the differences between two candidates vying so hard for the center without the media creating false distinctions and riling up bloggers who somehow confuse caps-lock with a justified position.
February 19, 2008 8:56 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 08:56
Lunar eclipse . . . yeah, that's what it is. Is everybody ready? Okay, start howling. The question should be: Who's best qualified to become caretaker of this asylum?
February 19, 2008 8:32 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 08:32
It would be nice to view peoples various thoughts and feelings regarding this article without having to scroll through 8 miles of paranoid apocalyptic gibberish, fevered Clintospam and various other kinds of swill.
I´m with the reader far above who asked "Do you moderate this chat?"
Clean it up, people.
February 19, 2008 8:21 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 08:21
Obama would be as good a President as Deval Patrick as Governor of Mass. What more can we ask for?
One add'lt comment on just words.
MLK also said "not to judge a man by the color of his skin but content of his character". These words have largely remained as just words. An inconvenient truth I suppose.
There lies the whole issue of racism and the reason why African-Americans are only flocking to color without content.
February 19, 2008 8:12 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 08:12
THE JOKE IS THE POWER WILL NEVER BE TO THE PEOPLE. ALL OF THE OBAMA FANS WILL GO BACK TO STUDYING LAW SO THEY CAN GRADUATE AND MAKE LOTS OF MONEY AND THEN VOTE REPUBLICAN SO THEY CAN KEEP IT ALL WHEN THEY GET THIR FIRST LAW PRATICE.
THE PRESIDENT IS NOT A GOD... HE HAS TO WORK WITH CONGRESS... TO GET THINGS DONE. THE YOUTH OF TODAY HAS NOT BEEN INTERESTED IN POLITICS AND STILL WON'T BE AFTER THE FAD OF OBAMA HAS DIED DOWN AND THE SAME OLD POLITICAL RHETORIC BEGINS YET AGAIN IN CONGRESS IN 2009.
OBAMA IS HYPE. SORRY. LOOK AT THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO VOTE ON AMERICAN IDOL. THIS PACKAGING OF OBAMA IS THE SAME THING. DO YOU REALLY NOT THINK IT SUSPICIOUS THAT SO MANY REPUBLICANS ARE SWITCHING PARTIES TO VOTE FOR OBAMA? GIVING BIG SUMS OF MONEY TO HIM AS WELL. WELL, I DO.
SINCE WHEN DO CONSERVATIVES REALLY SUPPORT "THE MOST LIBREAL " IN CONGRESS FOR PRESIDENT?
IF SOMETHING SMELLS FISHY... IT PROBABLY IS. IT SMELLS LIKE CARL ROVE TO ME.
THE MEDIA IS SITTING PRETTY... TELLING YOU TO VOTE FOR OBAMA, BUILDING HIM UP AND TEARING DOWN THE ONLY CANDIDATE WITH A CHANCE TO WIN BACK THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE DEMOCRATS.
IT'S NOT TO LATE BUT ALMOST. IF YOU STILL HAVE PRIMARIES IN YOUR STATE VOTE FOR CLINTON AND DON'T FALL FOR THE MEDIA HYPE OF OBAMA...AGAIN..
February 19, 2008 8:03 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 08:03
THE JOKE IS THE POWER WILL NEVER BE TO THE PEOPLE. ALL OF THE OBAMA FANS WILL GO BACK TO STUDYING LAW SO THEY CAN GRADUATE AND MAKE LOTS OF MONEY AND THEN VOTE REPUBLICAN SO THEY CAN KEEP IT ALL WHEN THEY GET THIR FIRST LAW PRATICE.
THE PRESIDENT IS NOT A GOD... HE HAS TO WORK WITH CONGRESS... TO GET THINGS DONE. THE YOUTH OF TODAY HAS NOT BEEN INTERESTED IN POLITICS AND STILL WON'T BE AFTER THE FAD OF OBAMA HAS DIED DOWN AND THE SAME OLD POLITICAL RHETORIC BEGINS YET AGAIN IN CONGRESS IN 2009.
OBAMA IS HYPE. SORRY. LOOK AT THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO VOTE ON AMERICAN IDOL. THIS PACKAGING OF OBAMA IS THE SAME THING. DO YOU REALLY NOT THINK IT SUSPICIOUS THAT SO MANY REPUBLICANS ARE SWITCHING PARTIES TO VOTE FOR OBAMA? GIVING BIG SUMS OF MONEY TO HIM AS WELL. WELL, I DO.
SINCE WHEN DO CONSERVATIVES REALLY SUPPORT "THE MOST LIBREAL " IN CONGRESS FOR PRESIDENT?
IF SOMETHING SMELLS FISHY... IT PROBABLY IS. IT SMELLS LIKE CARL ROVE TO ME.
THE MEDIA IS SITTING PRETTY... TELLING YOU TO VOTE FOR OBAMA, BUILDING HIM UP AND TEARING DOWN THE ONLY CANDIDATE WITH A CHANCE TO WIN BACK THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE DEMOCRATS.
IT'S NOT TO LATE BUT ALMOST. IF YOU STILL HAVE PRIMARIES IN YOUR STATE VOTE FOR CLINTON AND DON'T FALL FOR THE MEDIA HYPE OF OBAMA...AGAIN..
February 19, 2008 8:03 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 08:03
Who moderates these posts? I want to read it but the trolls and idiots make it impossible.
February 19, 2008 7:42 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 07:42
It would be funny if he was the Messiah.
How many white people in this country would be Christians if Jesus true image was shown "Black Man" instead of being portrayed as white with blond hair and blue eyes.
Can you imagine the racist white people "Social and Christian Conservatives" bending down to pray
to an image of a Black Man. Jesus did have hair of wool and bronze feet.
LOL
Those are some seriously confused people.
Reminds me of the skit on the Chappelle show when the KKK most celebrated author was a blind racist who hated black people. One problem. Since he was blind he didn't know he was black .
February 19, 2008 7:34 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 07:34
THERE IS NO MESSIAH.
WHEN YOUR AROUND 9 OR 10 YOUR PARENTS SIT YOU DOWN AND EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT SANTA KLAUS DOES NOT EXIST.
I THINK YOUR PARENTS NEED TO SIT YOU DOWN AND EXPLAIN TO YOU KNOW ONE IS COMING BACK FROM DEATH TO SAVE YOUR PITIFUL ASSES EITHER.
GROW UP.
February 19, 2008 7:24 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 07:24
Anybody whose appeal can be described as "religious" is dangerous as hell.
We have the national media to thank for this phenomenon.
February 19, 2008 7:04 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 07:04
Sorry guys,
you hate them; but to be realistic, you are not any different from muslim jihadists. for atheists, the world turns into an unbeareble place. every single day, step by step.
February 19, 2008 7:01 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 07:01
Why are some people talking as if Obama and Opera
are evil?people always say they are not racist but they keep calling them all sorts of names.
people must come to reality
OBAMA is the 'prez' in waiting.
God has already accepted him.
HURRAY!
HURRAY!
HURRAY!
HURRAY!
February 19, 2008 6:56 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 06:56
"Johnny B. Goode:
After the revolution and reign of terror in France, the French discovered that they had cut off all their brains.
After the American revolution, after chucking out the Brits, we discovered that we lost the art of understatement and droll humor. Now all we get is hyperbole and slapstick."
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I resemble that remark!
February 19, 2008 6:56 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 06:56
Lois Laulicht: posted
Now tell me folks... Who is Messianic? Gov. Duval or Sen. Obama.
It certainly isn't Sen. Clinton, and Sen. Obama has never referred to himself as, nor implied that he was Messianic. On the issue of copying...
Clinton uses Obama's speech phrases without his permission all of the time. Examples include "Fired up and ready to go," "Bring our country together," "Yes we can," "We've got to turn the page on George Bush and Dick Cheney," and "Turn the page." She was running on "Experience" until Iowa and then she couldn't get "Change" into her campaign fast enough.
http://thepage.time.com/obama-release-on-clintons-languge/
February 19, 2008 6:53 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 06:53
The same Jehovah who ordered the Jews to kill the Midianites along with their women and their children, but to keep the young girl children as rape victims and sex slaves is certainly powerful enough to get Huckabbe elected. Just wait and see for the miracle.
February 19, 2008 6:34 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 06:34
Vote:
Deport John McCain all the way back to Panama YEA!:
VOTE:
Abolish ALL PRE-APOCALYPTIC old-time "iMPORTED" [Not-Made or Prophecied in Sweet Sweet U.S.A.) Pre-Apocalyptic 'Cottage-Religions" and competing religilous's in U.S. of A., not non-religio Industry's, NOW!!
Deport
ALL of the VATICAN 'PRE-APOCALYPTIC POLY-THEO Catholic Roman Empire "PEDAPHILE/HOMOSEXUAL-PRIESTS/BISHOPS/CARDINALS" & their SuperStupidStitious Man-Made (not genuine HOLY-COSMIC ECLATi made SYSTEM ) back overseas from whence they illegally Imported their 'CURSE & SIN(s)' into older U.S.A., but no longer into the "New APOCALYPTIC-AMERICA-NATiON" U.S.A of 100 States!!!!
Note:
This is the E*C*L*A*T*i-ON Prophecy! Please do not be in denial to self nor others! Tonks!
VOTE:
DEPORT ALL, Not-Made-IN-A*M*E*R*i*C*A, PRE-APOCALYPTIC old-time iMPORTED Religions, Not MEXICANS!
INstead
Unite MEXICO w/U.S.A for an Additional 10 States!!! As a Matter of fact, VOTE to Merge & Absorb All AMERICA upto & No Further than PANAMMA, ironically John McCAINS "Birth Place! "Imagine" (john Lennon; pbuh) 100 U.S. States?
Then
We can Say Good bye Middle East & Good Ridence!!!
Important:
The Chinese Zionist {MAO's et al} are in Mexico too & populated Mexico 10-fold in last 10 Years! Remember, the Chinese want to POISON Americano's Minds via their Dangerous/un-Healthy Products!!! So They [Chinese Atheistic/Zionists] must be kicked-out of there ASAP! Ya Ya!
Trivia:
Did ye knowth that Senator , wanabe Prez John McCain is a 'Dual Citizen of Panama & USA?
PS: Did you also know that John McCain & His Wife , are ALCOHOL Pushers & have lots of Blood on their hand for many Highway Car Crashes due to their Alchol Monopoly Biz in ARIZONA!?????
Please see these linko's on Cindy Lou Hensley the daughter of James W. Hensley, a wealthy Anheuser-Busch distributor from Phoenix, Arizona. McCain filed for and obtained an uncontested divorce from his wife in Florida on April 2, 1980 and promptly married Cindy on May 17, 1980.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm
Shame Shame John & Cindy McCAIN!! Kennedy's too!
So Vote: Deport John McCain all the way back to Panama YEA!
Ya Ya Yo!
February 19, 2008 6:08 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 06:08
A couple of months ago I heard one of the anchors on MSNBC describe Obamamaniacs in this way. He said, "If Obama told his audience to stand, they would stand, If he told his audience to sit, they would sit. If he pointed at one person and told him to move, he would move." That's a bit frightening to me. People kind of lose their own identities in situations like that, don't they? I'm not convinced that if he is elected that he can get people to give the same kind of money to help support universal health care, or education or the Iraq veteran who is living under a bridge watching all this money pour into the Obama campaign and asking himself, 'but what about me?'
February 19, 2008 5:22 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 05:22
This thread is utter garbage. Shameful. Low.
Did Obama claim to be a/the Messiah?
Did Obama's supporters characterize him as a/the Messiah?
Who is using his word other than self-serving vapid journalists seeking to manufacture a story about nothing?
This a really stupid piece, one any Christian or Jew should find offensive.
February 19, 2008 5:16 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 05:16
Now tell me folks... Who is Messianic? Gov. Duval or Sen. Obama. I truly believe the country can only deal with one at a time, or perhaps none.
Read Susan Jacobi book "The Age of Unreason"! Oops
Perhaps I shouldn't have given attributuion. Bad
form
February 19, 2008 5:14 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 05:14
After the revolution and reign of terror in France, the French discovered that they had cut off all their brains.
After the American revolution, after chucking out the Brits, we discovered that we lost the art of understatement and droll humor. Now all we get is hyperbole and slapstick.
February 19, 2008 4:23 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 04:23
SCOTT:
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
February 19, 2008 3:46 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 03:46
wut the... is the nation not gonna vote for obama cuz he's black? what the ____ is this nation coming to?
besides lincoln and kennedy, what good did the whites do in this world? hitler? castro?
shut up and give freedom and equality to america... for both blacks.. whites and other races.
February 19, 2008 3:40 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 03:40
PATTI O'REILLY:
I can see from your post that it's true. God gave the Irish whiskey so they wouldn't rule the world.
February 19, 2008 3:39 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 03:39
Muchisimas gracias por todos los commentos estupidos. Yo espero que la senora de usted, Senora Burra, esta bueno. Bienvenido a los Estados Unidos, peon. Cuidado! INS estan aqui.
February 19, 2008 3:34 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 03:34
give him a chance, at least he looks "different"
February 19, 2008 3:26 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 03:26
Every candidate has warts, foibles, whatever you want to call them. They are all politicians we vote for to represent us - they are not some Platonic ideal of governance, the second coming, the messiah. McCain has em. Clinton has em. And yes Obama has em. In the end most people will vote for one of the above, warts and all. I seriously doubt that most Obama supporters are waiting for the rapture but their is nothing wrong with their passion. I bet Clinton and McCain would kill for more supporters to zealously throng their rallies, fill their campaign coffers, and mark their names on the ballot.
February 19, 2008 3:22 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 03:22
MARK:
Oh, great! Now all the gays and druggies will vote for Obama and he's sure to win. You and your big mouth!
February 19, 2008 3:18 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 03:18
David Headman:
You didn't waste your school money. Excellent post. I finally found that dictionary I've been looking for. Thanks for the new words and concepts.
As an aside, Adolf Hitler. I once met a gentleman who watched one of the corporal's speeches. He said he didn't speak a word of German and yet he was spellbound. Now, THAT'S oration.
February 19, 2008 3:09 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 03:09
you people are sick
February 19, 2008 3:05 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Posted on February 19, 2008 03:05
Why is it that every time the political circus comes to town, we get stuck with the clown?
Chris Dodd and Joe Biden are FAR more experienced and nuanced on government and foreign affairs than Hillary.
Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul are more libertarian and progressive than Obama, and they are far more candid and radical (root cause) in their approach to fixing what ails us (IRS and Federal Reserve).
John McCain was a true American hero half a century ago, but being a torture victim is no qualification for the presidency. Oh, uh, he just reversed his principled position on torture and agreed that it's okay sometimes. His repu