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Posted on March 18, 2008 11:51

Anonymous:
Nice try George. The real pink elephant in the bedroom is that many men are lousy in bed--believing that it's all about their "release". Maybe your wife, when she's done cranking out your crotch fruit and washing your skid-marked undies out, would agree.

March 18, 2008 11:44 AM
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You are right about George's comment. Often times sex for women is nothing but a waste of time and a one-sided event for the man.

Hell, majority of men don't even know the anatomony of the women's sexual body parts to appropriately satisfy her.

But if they are married and sex is a problem there is not an excuse for the man to severe the marriage bond by cheating. Let them go to counseling to try and fix the problem.

A woman should readily make herself availble for sex with her husband, but again sex will become boring very fast if the man only gets satisfied.

This snippet is from 2004.

"Some day a female politician will be caught with, well, her pants down. I wonder how America will react to the cuckolded husband, gazing calmly at his cheating politician wife.

Maybe when a man is put through this humiliating ritual, the polls will show that America doesn't like seeing a wronged spouse biting his cheeks at a very public press conference. And when the polls show it doesn't work, I suspect it will end."

I think the author is exactly right. When it comes to a man standing by his philandering wife, it'll be a cold day in hell before we see it happen. Colder still to EXPECT it as some sort of marital right.

Just for grins, can anyone think of a woman in a similarly powerful position (politics, business, what-have-you) where she cheated and her husband stood with her for the media glare?

I can't, perhaps others can?

Personally, I don't think any husband would. Too much self-respect.

That is a separate issue from whether or not the couple stayed married, by the by.

I agree with you whole-heartedly. I wouldn't have stood by him. That had to have been the most humiliating, embrassing experience of her entire life. I pity her, but she should have known better than to let him make her share in his shame. She did nothing wrong. She shouldn't have stood their and taken a public beating JUST by standing there. Family or no family, women need to start standing up for themselves. If she was the one who had cheated, do we think Eliot Spitzer would be standing at her side. No. Probably not.

I agree with you whole-heartedly. I wouldn't have stood by him. That had to have been the most humiliating, embrassing experience of her entire life. I pity her, but she should have known better than to let him make her share in his shame. She did nothing wrong. She shouldn't have stood their and taken a public beating JUST by standing there. Family or no family, women need to start standing up for themselves. If she was the one who had cheated, do we think Eliot Spitzer would be standing at her side. No. Probably not.

"What he did was wrong but..."

That's not an apology, or even a pretense of an apology. That's an excuse (note the use of the word "but", another one is "just")--is it one that you have used, or will be needing to use?

It's also called dissembling.

1. to give a false or misleading appearance to; conceal the truth or real nature of: to dissemble one's incompetence in business.
2. to put on the appearance of; feign: to dissemble innocence.
3. Obsolete. to let pass unnoticed; ignore.
–verb (used without object) 4. to conceal one's true motives, thoughts, etc., by some pretense; speak or act hypocritically.

Nice try George. The real pink elephant in the bedroom is that many men are lousy in bed--believing that it's all about their "release". Maybe your wife, when she's done cranking out your crotch fruit and washing your skid-marked undies out, would agree.

What makes ppl think they have right ( and may be moral/intelectual superiority) to advice??

Men are not perfect but to be with a prostitute is rather unforgivable. Did it ever dawn on him that he might bring home something that even Ajax or bleach wouldn't wash off. I wouldn't have been standing by his side. That is one he would have done on his own. He didn't need help to mess up the lives of his wife and precious daughters and he didn't need help to stand up there and admit to wrong. I think he was only sorry he got caught. He probably grew up with his Daddy's money getting him out of trouble and probably thought that he was way above fault in this also.

Men are not perfect but to be with a prostitute is rather unforgivable. Did it ever dawn on him that he might bring home something that even Ajax or bleach wouldn't wash off. I wouldn't have been standing by his side. That is one he would have done on his own. He didn't need help to mess up the lives of his wife and precious daughters and he didn't need help to stand up there and admit to wrong. I think he was only sorry he got caught. He probably grew up with his Daddy's money getting him out of trouble and probably thought that he was way above fault in this also.

Men are not perfect but to be with a prostitute is rather unforgivable. Did it ever dawn on him that he might bring home something that even Ajax or bleach wouldn't wash off. I wouldn't have been standing by his side. That is one he would have done on his own. He didn't need help to mess up the lives of his wife and precious daughters and he didn't need help to stand up there and admit to wrong. I think he was only sorry he got caught. He probably grew up with his Daddy's money getting him out of trouble and probably thought that he was way above fault in this also.

What he did was wrong but the reality is that she probably wasn't giving him sex at home, and she might be beautiful in your eyes, but she's not what she was when she married him. i mean the pink elephant in the room is that women are supposed to have sex with their husbands when their husbands want--if they don't, then their husbands are just balloons filling up with love juice--it's just a matter of time. I believe some women know this but still for whatever selfish reason refuse to screw their husbands--then they throw up their hands when the inevitable happens, and collect alimony. Women are so sanctimonious about how their husbands are supposed to be good and sex outside of marriage is unacceptable, but if wives would spend some more time on their backs, their husbands would spend less time on the prowl. So get off your high horse, sally. get out of the office and into bed, make babies, take care of your husband emotionally, then you'll see less straying. Or if you want to work, just keep it in moderation.

Is the male miscreant ever to be forgiven by his spouse, and if so how, and after how much time passes?

Is the male miscreant ever to be forgiven by his spouse, and if so how, and after how much time passes?

Is the male miscreant ever to be forgiven by his spouse, and if so how, and after how much time passes?

Rather than criticize Mrs. Spitzer for "standing up there" with her husband, we should let her make her own decision. Obviously, she loves her husband.

How does anyone know that for certain? George Sutton, do you have some inside knowledge that you wish to share? Or are you simply jumping to a conclusion?

I agree with Sally on one thing--Eliot should stand (finally) protect his family by standing up there ALL BY HIMSELF. I think it is the height of cowardice to hide behind his wife's skirts.

What was she thinging?

why am i up here
how emabarrassing
i'm gonna kick his a** when this is done
how do i explain this to the girls?
how do i explain this to my family?
why should i explain it?
dang 22!?
what does she have i don't?
wait he is bald!
i don't need him!
ok, i'll stay for a minute because i have invested a chunk of my life into him and his
LOOK OUT WORLD HERE I COME!!!

she'll be ok! :)

"Once, just once, wouldn’t you love to see the politician up there at the lectern sweating bullets, apologizing for letting down his wife and family …. alone?

Yes.

Put on your silk undies and face the consequences of your crappy behavior like an adult.

I'd feel the same way if it were her.

I think it is a lot of nerve for Sally Quinn to be questioning what any other woman would do in these cases of infidelity. It comes down to this - it's none of her business!

We all know how Sally Quinn got to where she is and it wasn't from talent or brains!

The daughters are the ones who concern me most. Men may start hitting on them because they are the offspring of an overweening, philandering father. Silda Spitzer should NOT stand by her man. She should leave him, and take her daughters with her

Watching Ms. Spitzer, all you could think about was the Taliban? Watching the Taliban, what do you think about? American Idol?

Sheesh...

Perhaps she is keeping him BECAUSE she has 3 children. Children need a father. Period.

As far as Hillary, she doesn't care about Bill's affairs. She was ticked off because it would mess up their career and quest for power. That is, she was mad he was dumb enough to get caught. Also, in all likelihood, she's a lesbian. Have you seen the Indian model that lives with her full time?

I think that leaving is easy to say, but less easy to do. As these things unfold they get more complex. Your mate has a weakness perhaps not known until he reaches a level of status where new opportunities and stresses arise. He/she yields to less than moral behavior. He/she is humiliated. You are kind of numb and in shock. The nightmare keeps unfolding. As time moves on you who were "done to", can now be expected to "do some doing". Everybody expects you to do what they like to think they would do. What you want to do, however, is not yet clear. Things like feelings of love, words like "in good times and bad", a sense of the needs of your mate, his/her family, your kids- empathy and pity for those you know like no other . . all conspire to generate conflict. The last thing that you are ready to do is something hasty that you will regret later, that will compound the problem. Each person, each marriage will have to find their own way through this.
Furthermore, sometimes sex with someone else is not world-ending. But in an over-sexed, Calvinistic, immature culture thirsty for tittilation and watching people squirm emotionally, like our own, we have a way of making it worse than need be. As a society we generate much more sex and drama than we can handle, and this perpetuates tragedies such as this one.

Why did all these women do it? "Stand by their man"? That is the reason so many dislike Hillary. She sends the message to young girls and women that women are inferior and must be syncophants to men for their existance. She is today running with his shadow! For as a former first lady she would not be qualified for the presidency of the United States were it not for her role as subserviant.

They wanted the power....at any cost!

I think she was a fool to stand up with him. The only reason he is "sorry" is that he is sorry that he was caught. Otherwise his little escapades would still be going on.

The rich and luxuriant American pornographical industry inundates the whole world with porno films which satisfy the most excentric instincts and fetishes of all kinds of sexmaniacs around the planet. But, more than ever, surges of puritanisms still remain in America.
they may be the descendents of the puritans pilgrims. The American puritans seem to accept that a president they elect send thousands of young soldiers do die in an ignominious war. Those puritans face as normal that tenths of thousands of innocent foreign cildren, women and old men die victimized by "intelligent" bombs the president they elected (and re-elected) ordered to be launched in their countries. By rationalizing that the war would bring economical benefits for their country. But it seems that those puritans do not forgive a president, a governor, a senator ou any other incombent commists adultery. Mrs. Silda Sptzer had demonstrated to be a woman of great valor by standing by the side of her husband in the most crucial hours of his life. Her husband had commited some grave errors, sexual miscondact behaviours, a "sexual indiscretions". Mrs. Sptzer is living through "rainy and cloudy days". But these cloudy days will bring many sunny days and many starry nights. It is just a matter of time. When Mrs. Silda, at night, in bed, she will be certain thatshe will not sleep with a man that had commited war crimes. Her hesband did send four thousand of young American soldiers to die in an ingloroius war. Her husband did not give orders to kill tens thousands of innocent children and innocent civilians of other countries. Mrs. Sptzer husband did not disable any men, neither women or children. He had had only many "indiscretion acts of love". Which the puritans do not accept...Neither forgive...

john bailo says-

John Bailo:

Bottom line: it's always the chicks who control these things. Clearly, Silda took a look at herself in the mirror, noticed her newly thin figure and said, "why am I stuck with this old bald guy". Meanwhile, her accomplish (you girls all gang up on us), Ashley Alexandra Dupré, is looking to advance her singing career. So, Silda rolls over, lets things happen, and the next thing you know it, she's got the upper hand. She can walk away from Elliot, take his dough and marry the pool boy. Meanwhile Ashley gets her own CD. All Elliot gets is a bunch of unpaid VISA charges for wanting a little nooky.

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so, john, this has happened to you?

All you do is judge other people and you get paid for that? sheesh! thats a terrible way to earn a living!

Sally Quinn, you are so right!! These men get away with murder because we women let them. It's something you never get over, even if you try to forgive. Looking back, I'm no so sure that I would marry. It's not worth the agony.

Bottom line: it's always the chicks who control these things. Clearly, Silda took a look at herself in the mirror, noticed her newly thin figure and said, "why am I stuck with this old bald guy". Meanwhile, her accomplish (you girls all gang up on us), Ashley Alexandra Dupré, is looking to advance her singing career. So, Silda rolls over, lets things happen, and the next thing you know it, she's got the upper hand. She can walk away from Elliot, take his dough and marry the pool boy. Meanwhile Ashley gets her own CD. All Elliot gets is a bunch of unpaid VISA charges for wanting a little nooky.

I don't think he did it because he could, or out of arrogance. I think he did it because he's a male and men are not monogamous. He might also need extreme stimulus.

FROM:
FRIENDS OF HOLY COSMIC SPACE-SHIP EARTH

The Dali Lama & his International Religio Mafioso, "MONK's-ARMY", ALL have Blood On their hands!

Now this in Tibet & recently in Burma!!!!!????

How many more innocent lives shall one sacrifice for you, Mr. [un-Holy Bald-Head] Lama???

Where are you 'WAPO-Moderator' Mr. Dalai Lama?

Forsake BUDDHISTism! Dismantle them!

Forsake BUDDHISM! Forbid them Entry!

Please do not allow them "ASYLUM" Immigration Status in U.S.A.!

The Dalai Lama should be jailed & never allowed contact with the outside world!

THEY SHOULD MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA!

Boy do you have it backwards lady! Here you are talking about how we indeed have not "come a long way" because of women like this- I think the only thing hurting women in this situation is a woman like you, who presumes to know anything about what women in this situation are going through. Instead of standing beside your sister, trusting she is making the right decision for HER and HER family, you blast her. That's where women lose- when we attack each other. Shame on you.
Furthermore, as a woman who has had this happen to her, I can assure you that we are not the pathetic, weak creatures which you portray in your article. It takes a lot of strength to pick yourself up, and work EVERYDAY for YEARS to put your life and family back together. Pathetic is the person who judges the victim. Shame, shame on you.

ms. quinn:
i couldn't agree with you more...the agony on ms. spitzer's face is palpable...she's already been profoundly humiliated. why stand up there and humiliate herself more? no one is fooled by it.

if i were to marry a high-profile person and he betrayed me similarly, i wouldn't stand up there while he announces his sins--would YOU?

The reason is MONEY !. Wives hope that by standing by their husband, he will not loose that
money making job. Sure she could go back to that prestigious post she had, but that means long long hours of hard work and having all over again to put up with many arrogant co-workers and bosses.

I find the whole assumption that she (Silda, whoever) is humiliated fraught with assumptions that the woman defines herself in relation to a sexual relationship with her husband, and that she is necessarily diminished by his sexual conduct of which she had no knowledge. I find this a primitive way of thinking that equates all women who are married with the sort of people who get into bar brawls about sexual jealousy. Certainly, she is shocked and embarrassed, but not necessarily out of primtive feelings of sexual possessiveness. For Silda or other high powered wives, there is damage to a common enterprise, and there is the sudden knowledge that a person with whom you are allied has not been forthcoming with you about all the possible exposures to which he is subjecting the enterprise. Now, in the matter of why the person stands there, I guess I would admit the logic bears a relationship to the assumptions most people make about the shape and meaning of a marriage. Beyond that, it's very hard to read all the text and subtext of the ritual, but simple readings based on an idea of humiliation along the lines of primitive clashes over sexual ownership in confined quarters are forced at best. They impose meanings from the past that fit only poorly the far more complex partnerships in the present day of compartmentalization of so many features of personality. Her being there is not necessarily sexist, although it's related to sex. The readings of the sort suggested by Ms. Quinn are sexist.

What I find interesting is all the angry attention focused on what in essence was a VOLUNTARY act engaged in by two consenting adults. Whether Spitzer was married is a secondary issue.

The relationship we have as individuals to the state is NOT voluntary. All of the involuntary and violent acts of aggression committed or condoned by Mr. Spitzer while he was pretending to be Governor and/or a DA far outweigh his consorting with prostitutes.

No, instead of complaining about the fact that the state is STEALING their money, a VIOLENT and NON-CONSENTUAL act and the basis of Sptizer's TRUE criminality, instead people complain about the one VOLUNTARY act being publicized by the media that this criminal has engaged in.

And by the state's own rules, should he go to jail?

I can guarantee you, dear reader, that won't happen. Yet, if it were any one of us mere peasants, it certainly would.

It is the height of hypocrisy.

Hey Sally are you reading all these comments? I am wondering about this comment feature of washingtonpost.com. Do the reporters read the comments? I think they should, otherwise we readers are being asked to interact without getting heard. This is an interesting forum but a little one-sided if we don't get to hear your reactions.

The marriage vows most of us take call on us, in part, to stick together "for better or worse." While adultery is wrong, our vows should not be abandoned in favor of what is easy.

Silda standing with Elliot is love, confusion and and grief. Hilary staying with Bill was ambition and future planning. Support Bilary for co-president.

I never could stand by husband when I learned that he betrayed me...not only that, he was a thief and liar in a lawyer's suit. I left him and moved far away. He avoided child support and pretty much ruined my life. Now, the kids are grown and have their own children. They love their father and sometimes, seem to favor being with him over me. Would I do it over again? I'm not sure. I'm alone and have struggled for income for the past 40 years.

It seems you can take the woman out of the burqa, but it is proving far more difficult to take the burqa out of the woman.

How about Mrs. Kobe Bryant? Another sad victim.

While I can empathize with the agony of the violated wife, I am astounded that she would stand next to her powerful husband Elliot Spitzer, enabling him to further the public humiliation on herself and on her daughters as mere hangers-on and not as members of a self-respecting family. In typical Hillary-esque fashion, she too committed sati by throwing her Self into the funeral pyre, all the while insisting that he too not step down, possibly hoping that the last vestiges of political power, or the greed for it, would serve her as well.

Silda Switzer's actions were public ones. She will take other, more painful and decisive actions, in private. Her daughters know the difference between her public role as political wife and the private woman who is their mother. Silda Switzer's courageous choice to stand in public, while extremely difficult, protects her family's right to deal with this tragedy in private. We have not "come a long way baby" if we turn the figure of condemnation away from the true culprint.

Silda may be preserving her daughters financial
inheritance, astutely, letting her man not be
visibly available for future dalliance.

John said "Why does it not seem to occur to anyone that she may have encouraged her husband to utilize a prostitute?"

Are you kidding ? Just another liberal Democrat trying to cover for his party which is on deep trouble as we see it now eating it's own young .

Barry

Thank you ! The women should hold their own news conferences , alone and announce the divorce proceedings along with a lawyers request for STD testing on the cheating husband . Why can't these gals get a backbone ? It is embarrassing to know that so many wives are doing this . They did get a fine example from Hillary who went as far as saying
"It was all a vast right wing conspiracy".

Barry D from Texas

Why does it not seem to occur to anyone that she may have encouraged her husband to utilize a prostitute?

Dear Betty K: Thanks thanks thanks......

Norrie Hoyt, Spring Rain and Richard T. Lee good to see some decent humans.

Arun Gandhi to my knowledge is a humble and honest man. He might have made a mistake. The PARASITE went after him and got him fired. She will have her judgement. However, I pray for all her victims.

She belongs to 3rd rated gossip not Faith column.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Betty K- You could NOT have mirrored my sentiments more accurately! When is the Post going to wise up, Ben Bradlee being alive or no, to his Hamptons society matron gossip-monger wife actually being pawned off on the Post's long suffering readers as an actual "journalist?" When is this nonsense going to stop? Oh yes, Sally Quinn can GOSSIP-SHE'S VERY GOOD AT THAT-THAT'S ALL SHE CAN DO THOUGH, AND TO GIVE HER ANY SORT OF PLATFORM THAT SUGGESTS OTHERWISE JUST SHOWS YOU HOW LOW THE POST HAS SUNK IN ITS JOURNALISM STANDARDS (NOT THAT IT WAS EVER VERY GREAT IN THAT AREA ANYWAY) AND THAT THE POST ENGAGES IN RANK DISGUSTING NEPOTISM TO MAKE SALLY QUINN FEEL GOOD, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY FROM HER PERSPECTIVE TO MAKE HER FEEL "CREDIBLE."

BOB WOODWARD, ARE YOU LISTENING?

Srini D Balan and PRIYA,
Thanks for your posts. However, do not expect much reason over here.
Peace.

In defense of Sally Quinn, you gotta admit this: even if she has no morals, at least she has no shame!

Amen to your article -- What Was Silda Thinking. You said exactly what I thought.
--Anne

You know there is one thing these women did do that Hillary Clinon did not. They did stand together with their husband when they ackowledged the truth. Hillary was there when her husband lied. And she lied for him as well when she claimed it was a "right-wing conspiracy". No Mrs. Spitzer did not need to and probably should not have stood next to the Governor but at least she was there when he did do the right thing. Stop comparing these women to Hillary. She knew he was lying because of his history and she stood next to him when he lied. She's a liar as well!

Can you please write about your own two marriages and your own exemplary conduct so that we can learn how to conduct ourselves and become good virtuous people. Pretty please!

Sally Quinn making any sort of judgements on Mrs. Spitzer or any other woman suffering similar emotional trauma is truly disgusting. The arrogance she reveals in her writings and television appearances knows no bounds. I have read and watched you make a career out of mercilessly judging the actions of others one way or another and take some perverse pleasure in kicking people especially when they are down. If you really want to understand faith and religion, you may want to start by seriously examining what you have done-beyong cultivating the "right" people, acquiring mansions, wealth, the right connections to keep you in your rarified world, tell everyone how loyal you are, and hosting A-list parties with the "beautiful" people. You have done a tremendous amount of damage to people with that sewer of a mouth and your poisoned pen. Please stop, it's enough. And to the management of the Washington Post-please find a graceful way to get rid of her now because you know it's only a matter of proper timing after her husband passes that you will finally show this shameless human being the door once and for all.

Quinn says, "For young girls, it says this is an acceptable role for women -- to be lied to, cheated on, disrespected and humiliated in public/ You take it and must still be supportive. because that is what is expected of women. For boys, it says it’s okay to lie and cheat and dishonor your family, and you might grow up to be a senator or a governor or a president. You can get away with it."

Those statements apply to any famous man or woman who publicly commits adultery. Fortunately, we know that no one in the DC media establishment has ever done that. If they had, mentioning it in these comments would doubtless be considered a prohibited "personal attack." I gather that it is not, however, a prohibited personal attack to impugn the motives of Silda Spitzer without knowing anything about her side of the story. Shame on the Post for publishing this (but, of course, no shame on the writer for writing it, lest that be considered a personal attack.)

Sally Quinn,

You write columns criticzing others, but you don't seem to understand that:

Blood and families are thicker than polemics and abstract doctrines.

Your feminist doctrines are irrelevant to a woman in distress.

You have no human sympathy or kindness.

You are not qualified by any of your personal attributes to write the columns that you do.

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Get a life, but, before you do, try to understand people's real lives.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, correct? In light of the question you pose to Silda Spitzer, I would like to know what you were thinking when you moved in on Ben Bradlee when he was still married? Isn't that a violation of the tenets of every faith?

The response of the media and public to Ms. Spitzer's appearance is perhaps more interesting than Ms. Spitzer's trangressions. I don't see a political woman standing by her man; I see a courageous and intelligent MOTHER, woman and spouse who is probably going through more emotional turmoil every minute than many of us have in a decade. We should respect her courage and have empathy for her difficult position, rather than project our expectations upon her.

Ms. Spitzer, you do what you think is best for you and your family, and you should know that most Americans hope you and your children will come through this with strength and dignity. Don't worry about what people think of you.

I repeat: the ugly, catty, self-righteous, incredibly judgmental and above all arrogant and inaccurate post by Sally Quinn merely underscores her utter unfitness to be called a "journalist" in any shape or form. Yes, indeed, she DID break up the former editor of the Wash. Post's first marriage, now didn't she? But that was OKAY, BECAUSE IT WAS SALLY QUINN DOING IT.

Sheesh! I have NO respect for this woman, and she is allowed to write such tripe, yet, the whole controversy about Arun Gandhi having to resign from his position as President of the Peace Foundation, SOLELY because Sally Quinn was afraid of Jewish opposition to his words, which were interpreted by some, (certainly not by all of us, those who can use their brain, that is!) as anti-Semitic. But oh no, stupid, shallow Ms. Quinn saw to it that he got fired from his position, because she is nothing if not ultra PC-and terribly afraid of "offending" some delicate egos out there. For shame! She would NEVER be allowed to write for any major newspaper except her husband's PURE AND SIMPLE! Her blog on Silda Spitzer makes one cringe with embarassment that Quinn can actually call herself a human being, much less a "writer!"

the anonymous comment at 5:15 was me, i forgot to type in my name.

elizabeth6-this is the only comment in response to you, when you said mccain is a stand-by-his-woman man. all of my other comments were directed at mrs. bill quinn.
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i said----elizabeth6-

using mccain as an example of a 'stand by your woman man'?
mccain? oh, you mean the one who didn't stand by his other wife cuz he was having an affair with his current wife, cindy? that mccain?

geeeeeeez
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elizabeth6:
DMAC
That was a statement of fact. I leave morals for the experts to sort out. I do not have the credentials. Do you?
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statements of fact is what i was agoin' for.......were you referring to when he 'helped' his wife cindy with her drug problem by hiding it under the rug, made sure she wasn't charged with many felonies, like anyone else would have, and not even checking her into rehab? that time he 'helped' her?

i don't recall mentioning morals, but we could. and i don't think you need credentials for morals, just a little common sense, a few golden rules and compassion usually is all you need to get in the door.

i came on here to comment about sally quinn being a hypocrite, not john mccain, you're the one who brought it up, and what i said is true, a statement of fact, as you say.

so, if you're referring to some kind of knight in shining armor act that he did for his wife that i am not aware of, i would love to be informed and educated.

i