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Checmate!

Don't be so sure that Rove will not be part of a McCain administration. I would doubt it, but I would not be too surprised if it happened.

I'm also left wondering why you wrote this article Tim. What you said was eloquent, but what is sad is that it had to be said at all. An approach to leadership that is run on dogma with no analysis or consideration of change is doomed to failure. The Soviet Communist Party made that mistake and failed miserably. The Chinese Communist Party knew they had to change or perish as well and made the changes needed.

I think history will look back on this and wonder how we could have elected such a failed leader, twice. History will be harsh, but on the American people, not so much on Bush. He is just a symptom for an America that has no idea how its country is run nor cares. American apathy will be the verdict on how this all happened. Our children will shake their heads at us just as we shake our heads at the grandparents who voted for Nixon the second time, though they could say they were deceived by the lies. America knew what it was getting when it voted for Bush the second time.

Like in the Classic ‘Laurel & Hardy’ show would say, “IT’s Another Fine Mess You Got-Me into Alli! (almost crying).

--- "SAVE LiVES!

--- "SAVE FUTURE!

--- "SAVE EARTH!

--- "SAVE ENERGY!

--- "SAVE JOBs!

--- "SAVE The ECONOMY!

VOTE: "ECONoMiC MiGHT, Not MiLiTARY MiGHT!"

Pay'd For, By the American JOCKTANian-PARTY of

the "ECLAT{i}{ON}" Votary Assoc., 2012!

Please save us from those who wish McCstank and commpany to further break this country!! Please god save us from McCstank and company from sending another 200Billion (yes with a B) to a country that don't want us!, Please god save us from ALL REPIBLICANS, by casting them into the fiery pit 4EVER! Amen

Even Mother Teresa had a MAJOR failing. She denied painkillers to terminal suffering patients in the very foolish and cruel belief that Pain is God touching you!

Why is that so many people live every day of their life making tough decisions, working with people who make decisions and who's survival depends on seeing situations for what they and dealing with them... Yet, these same people, when it comes to politicians, seem to imagine that a proclamation of some imaginary moral high-ground or clear ignorance of changing circumstances is all of a sudden such a great asset.

It's important for people to remind themselves that even the President will be wrong sometimes, but that it's our job to encourage them (require them) to admit their mistakes and improve.

In this President's case, we rewarded him and his party.

If Obama's original plan of instant U.S. withdrawal from Iraq in 2007 had been implemented, the region would have plunged into chaos in 2008, instead of experiencing the relative calm brought by Bush's troop surge policy - one of many real changes Bush has made, Tim Shriver's statements notwithstanding. Bush has real "seriousness of purpose", Tim Shriver's statements notwithstanding. The President rightfully argues "for more drilling for more fossil fuels in the United States." Tim Shriver also wrote, "To most Americans, it looks more and more like close-mindedness" but, in fact, it is not a sign of closed-mindedness for one to review all the evidence on a particular issue and find it is not sufficiently convincing (i.e., beyond a reasonable doubt.) Tim, sometimes you have to say, "No" to the trendies who reflexively chant "Change is good!" without reflecting on ALL of the change's possible consequences.

"LORD, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or without clothes, or sick, or in prison, and not help You?"

Then He will answer them, "I assure you: Whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me either."

Timothy Shriver-

Please stop playing politics with your "rovian" posts.

This forum is on FAITH..

Why not use this space to raise awareness of women suffering under Islamism? Who else will speak for these women?

"Rahmatullah Naikzad of the Associated Press took this photograph of two unidentified Afghan women before they were executed by the Taliban on Saturday in Ghazni province, Afghanistan.

"They were taking pure and innocent Muslim women of this province to the Americans and other foreigners at the PRT [Provincial Reconstruction Team], as well as to local Afghans, to earn money through prostitution," an unnamed Taliban commander tells Associated Press Television News.

Sayed Ismal, a spokesman for the local governor, tells the wire service that the women were "innocent local people."

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/07/todays-photo-ta.html

There is MORE to this story. Anyone may go to google news and search the photographers name-

"Naikzad"

"If Obama's original plan of instant U.S. withdrawal from Iraq in 2007 had been implemented, the region would have plunged into chaos in 2008..."

IT'S ALREADY *IN* CHAOS. Do you ever think? Or just call Rush Limbaugh for your robotic right-wing talking points?

Idiot. The surge *doesn't matter* because the Iraqi constitution that *George Bush personally allowed* is a THEOCRACY, not a DEMOCRACY. It states within itself (GOOGLE an English copy and READ IT) that Islam is the ultimate authority.

That ain't democracy. Our soldiers are being maimed and killed, and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians MURDERED, by this war criminal administration. It's sickening that some Americans still support people who should be hanging from a gallows.

"Mother Teresa never changed her belief in the gospel but she was constantly praying for guidance, re-engineering her houses, making changes to the focus of their service, and modifying the way in which her sisters were offering care. She worked tirelessly to understand herself, her God, her role in the world."

Oh yes she did:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/25/2015008.htm

George W. Bush no repudiation of past positions, no chameleon-like shifts in positions?

How about when he ran for office and said he would never enter into war without an exit strategy?

How about his humble foreign policy and no nation building?

How about a redesign of military with emphasis on supermodern hardware and less international deployment?

He's done nothing but flip flop.

"Please god save us from ALL REPIBLICANS, by casting them into the fiery pit 4EVER! Amen"

Yikes! Talk about hate-filled words. I sure do feel sorry for all those "REPIBLICANS" -- what are "REPIBLICANS" anyway??

As my 10 year old son asked the other day,"why does George Bush hate everyone?" I don't know the answer to that but it appears to stem from his strong Christian faith. Christianity is just another wing of the Republican Party and it always will be. Like racists, right wing Christians will never change, they will just die out. In another 30 years, columns like this will be relegated to the "skinhead" sector of societies losers.

We know the Post wants to appeal to the dumb-asses out there and this was a good try. Unfortunately, this is an idea that has failed and it's time to shut this POS down.

Honestly, it is time to close down this ridiculous column. The Post, like all news outlets now, covets the "Fox News" crowd. Unfortunately, the Fox geezers are told every day about the Great Satan (the mainstream media). Either go all the way (e.g. give Bill O'Reilly and John Hagee column space) or go back to reporting to the smart people who used to read your paper.

I see that you just hired a WSJ re-tread to take the helm. Not good.

Bush may have been consistent in or before 2000, not having been concerned with national affairs, but as soon as he got into office the flip-flops began; on nation building and exit strategy (http://zfacts.com/p/136.html) and the reason for tax cuts ("it's the peoples' money and there's no chance of deficits; no wait, we need tax cuts to stimulate the economy").

How do Christian "faith convictions" justify war-making and imperialism? Jesus said "Resist not evil".

RAY tells us:

"As my 10 year old son asked the other day,"why does George Bush hate everyone?

RAY, if you love your young son take a few moments to consider what he has asked you. At ten he is still a child trying to figure out this world. He wants to know why the President of the country he lives in "hates everyone".

Consider what he has heard you say about Bush, Christians, and the state of the country/world where he too lives. You can't teach your child to model his thoughts on what you say. They will question. Don't treat your child as a receptical in which you vent your view of the world. They will rebel or face a life of bigotry.

For your child's sake, please think about it.

Tim, you never cease to amaze me. Your articles are packed with a punch. You intrigue and challenge the reader’s imagination, emotion, memory and occasional libido by your winsome and adroit approach: never resorting to opprobrious words or actions toward your irate readers. Your references to your family mark your passion for life and living it. You have an undeniable faith in your convictions. Your blog is a blessing to we who read it with open hearts. Those of us who pull statements out of context, and take offense to them, should open reread in the spirit of glasnost. We need to stop trying to prove what we think, and start learning from different perspectives. There are simply too many American boorish bigots these days that hear and read only what they want, and I refuse to be one.

I so agree with the theme of your article. Our leaders must be unchanging in their character, mission and ultimate purpose. If our leaders continue to be unchangeable in character, mission and ultimate purpose for this country (made up of many different and ever changing needs), it would follow that such leaders must continually change to remain unchangeable. Even God introduced covenants which He later removed.

If we didn’t need change to remain grounded, then why would we be electing a new president every four years – why not just leave him/her in office until he/she decides to quit (like China)? We don’t need a megalith that changes only as it crumbles to ruin, but a leader who will be more than a politician’s politician. Someone we, who don’t understand all the issue details, can depend on.

I’m a simple mid-western housewife, and I love this country. I will vote for the person whom I believe has immovable integrity, an indomitable spirit, a clear vision and mission, and agape love for all people. I will not vote for a person based on the rumors and articles sent as “forwards” through e-mail trying to change my vote. We have two candidates, both with good things to say. It is our right, privilege and duty to listen to what they have to say, and vote.

Tim, you never cease to amaze me. Your articles are packed with a punch. You intrigue and challenge the reader’s imagination, emotion, memory and occasional libido by your winsome and adroit approach: never resorting to opprobrious words or actions toward your irate readers. Your references to your family mark your passion for life and living it. You have an undeniable faith in your convictions. Your blog is a blessing to we who read it with open hearts. Those of us who pull statements out of context, and take offense to them, should open reread in the spirit of glasnost. We need to stop trying to prove what we think, and start learning from different perspectives. There are simply too many American boorish bigots these days that hear and read only what they want, and I refuse to be one.

I so agree with the theme of your article. Our leaders must be unchanging in their character, mission and ultimate purpose. If our leaders continue to be unchangeable in character, mission and ultimate purpose for this country (made up of many different and ever changing needs), it would follow that such leaders must continually change to remain unchangeable. Even God introduced covenants which He later removed.

If we didn’t need change to remain grounded, then why would we be electing a new president every four years – why not just leave him/her in office until he/she decides to quit (like China)? We don’t need a megalith that changes only as it crumbles to ruin, but a leader who will be more than a politician’s politician. Someone we, who don’t understand all the issue details, can depend on.

I’m a simple mid-western housewife, and I love this country. I will vote for the person whom I believe has immovable integrity, an indomitable spirit, and agape love for all people. I will not vote for a person based on the rumors and articles sent as “forwards” through e-mails trying to change my vote. We have two candidates with good things to say. It is our right, privilege and duty to listen to what they have to say, and vote.

Put nothing past McCain - Rove is and will continue to be part of McCain's covert management team. As successful as Rove was playing the role of Bush Team Terminator, McCain is not about to forego that kind of 'valued' expertise down the road - McCain is just as weak on real principles and fundamental character as Bush ever was.

Nasty republicans don't go away - they just go underground or hide out on the right-wing speaking circuit, waiting to be summoned for their particular talents.

Senior Bush to G W Bush 'you did the same mistake in Iraq that I did to your Mother that I did not pull out in time'

Dear Dr Shriver

Just in case you'd like to watch some video highlights (including that of the Stations of the Cross) of the Catholic World Youth Day 2008 currently underway in Sydney (on SBS Australia & BBC World Service links)

http://news.sbs.com.au/worldnewsaustralia/thousands_brave_the_cold_for_pilgrimage_552179

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7515079.stm

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