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no one would have u

i totally agree i will never buy a dodge and i have no idea y ur caramel chocolate heaven isn't in safeway it is by far the best flavor ever created.

thank u 4 that creation

p.s. i wont buy a dogde if u put cch(caramel chocolate heaven) in safeway

b

In reading both the quotes by Albert Einstein written by Spiderman2 and Leo, it does appear most certainly that Albert Einstein was a "believer" in God, end of story.

Mr. Einstein would also agree that these qoutes are true,

Jeremiah 20:10, (10) "I hear many whispering,
"Terror on every side! Report him! Let's report him!" All my friends are waiting for me to slip, saying, "Perhaps he will be deceived;
then we will prevail over him and take our revenge on him."

Romans 12:19 (19) "Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,says the Lord."

Leviticus 19:18,(18)"Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD."

tst

Well,

Mr Spider, if you think you presented Einstein's
religious belief, looks like the following statements are a little more clearly expressed. He certainly wasn't religious the way you (want to) see him. Or, in other words: please do not claim him:

"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. (Albert Einstein)"

"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954)"

"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. (Albert Einstein)"

If it comes from the mouth an atheist, doubt it 100 %. Atheists claimed that Einstein was also an atheist. Straight from the horse's mouth, Einstein declared he is NOT an atheist.

"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God." (Albert Einstein)

As quoted in Glimpses of the Great (1930) by G. S. Viereck

I would suggest that Sept 11 2001 has nothing to do with our current war. I think that question has been settled, several times now? Does right-wing radio still have such influence?

"..in defense of our freedom and our beliefs."

Fred,

by the way, we're just as "Free" not to listen to your esteemed patriotic self-righteousness. If I never heard another "anti-American" claim again it'd be too soon. If I had my total "freedom," I'd export the likes of you to some island where you could run anything up a flagpole you wanted, and salute all day long.

I'm absolutely sick of your neo-con ilk that glorifies your "values" positions. Look where you've landed us these last 8 years.

"Renowned scientist Albert Einstein dismissed the Bible as a collection of “pretty childish” legends and belief in God as a “product of human weaknesses,” according to a letter to be auctioned this week.

Einstein, who was Jewish, also rejects the notion that Jews were God’s chosen people. "

So, you're weak, and childish, How do you justify as much Tim?

T,

Your article has so much truth, hope and honor for our brave defenders of the USA, mixed in with misunderstanding, unfounded and incorrect views of the Dodge brand. Not only has Chrysler paid my bills, (as well as hundreds of thousands of US citizens) this year, but also has contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to worthy charities and sponsored numerous global events (e.g., The Pentagon Memorial Fund, CY2006 grants of over $23.6M, MacArthur Memorial, employee family scholarships, environmental and ergonomic improvement contests, Special Olympics airplane pulls, United Way Fundraisers, supply of uniforms and food to hundreds of school children in foreign countries. . .). Chrysler is moving into the next generation of Lean Manufacturing in order to give customers what they want without causing other issues.

Now that Mercedes Benz has sold Chrysler to Cerberus Capital Management, I'm not sure of our future; however, I can still hold my head high knowing that W.P. Chrysler founded a company that takes every effort to give the people of the world what they ask for.

Anyone who criticizes the development of new and improved vehicles (regardless of the brand), and seems to try and undermine the tenacity of a company's management workforce to make safe, affordable and dependable vehicles, simply does not understand the industry.

I would encourage you to tour a Chrysler plant, visit the Tech Center in Michigan, meet the people who diligently strive to provide a safe, high quality, speedily delivered, affordable, comfortable and reliable vehicle that is not deleterious to the environment. Listen to the reasons behind the concept and development. Watch the prototypes being built and fine tuned, listen to all the dialogue that goes into world transportation issues and needs. If you would like to meet the people who are making progress in Chrysler, I would be happy to set up the date. I'm sure if you have detailed suggestions for how to produce the customer requested roomy interior, big engine, fast moving, fully loaded (heavy) truck, van, SUV or car that is affordable, I'm sure we will listen.

Take the commercial and marketing incentive for what it is and remember that we product development and manufacturing management, as well as the thousands of UAW workers, are trying to give you, and the rest of the drivers in the world, what you want. Practically very brand of vehicle, fashion, politics and religion is marketed and sold to people - not just Dodge. Sometimes the stratagems to keep employees and their families from ending up on the streets are less than ideal. I'm not saying that I agree with them, I'm just saying that Dodge is more than a brand name, it cradles careers, payments to the doctors, money for people to give to charities, food on the tables, thousands of US jobs, families struggling to pay their mortgage, people who support our troops in diverse ways ---it is a means to keep afloat.

PS I still love your articles, your passion and your zeal - even though this one struck a nerve.

How about making the GI Bill retroactive for those approximately 11,000 veterans who got screwed out of it?

The ones who were advised not to put money in the substandard Veterans Education and Assistance Program (VEAP) and who did not get the word from their education offices to quickly park $50 in VEAP so they would be able to get the MGIB.

11,000 veterans who gave their best but get NO education benefits because the military and Government are too cheap to include them. Because the military functions they trusted to inform them of the new MGIB didn't in order to save a few bucks.

How about doing something for those vets?

"The planet be damned, the troops be forgotten, the economy be ignored: buy a Dodge."
How crass of you, Tim, to condemn a company for being in business (participating in, by the way - not ignoring - the economy). By doing so, Chrysler supports many American families: its employees (through wages and benefits) and, hopefully, its stockholders.
In addition, Chrysler collaborates with Tata Motors Limited of India: Tata's all-electric Ace mini truck will be sold through Chrysler's Global Electric Motorcars division - how does that merit your anti-Dodge invective, "the planet be damned"?
I hope the "holier than thou" chord you seem to be striking in this article is not apparent in any future article you publish.

This item should be printed under a column heading. Ther's no "faith" here...so typical of the misinformation the Sally Quinn cohort pumps out.

I've been a frequent critic of Mr. Shriver, but I am totally baffled by some of the barbs on this page. Mr. Shriver wrote something with which I am in total agreement--that we best honor the spirit of America by taking positive, personal actions every day that contribute to the improvement of our lives, our children's lives, the environment, and foreigners who could use our help in causes like curing diseases. He reminds us that simply being vociferous consumers and spectators at parades is not what being an American is all about.

What in the world is there in that message that arouses such animosity?

I would call you a sanctimonious *******, but that seems to be against the rules here...

I can only remember one just war since Vietnam that merited your highfalutin' description of our ideals (and Vietnam doesn't count as one), and that would be our aborted operation in Afghanistan since 9/11. Maybe people deserve the misery of losing loved ones if they aren't going to stop believing in the tooth fairy every time the next president waves the flag and lies to them about how they're defending [fill in the blank--freedom? country? Whatever lie you like). People should start thinking for themselves and stop listening to this awful patriotic nonsense. Certainly devout Christians have a profound obligation not to take part in war unless it's brought to their doorstep.

If more people went about their day-to-day business, including selling cars, and ignored misbegotten romanticized patriotic rubbish, the world would be a better place, and not by any means shallower...

BOBG, thank you for speaking many of my opinions.

It appears to me we glorify blood and gore not to mention 'sweetheart deals for those who contribute to those who seem to enjoy destroying other countries including murdering them.

Many who self-identify as 'Christians' seem to be happy to engage in warmongering. Do they still think God is on our side no matter how we justify what is not justifiable?

I fervently hope we will abide by the 'Golden
Rule' beginning when Bush and his crew leave Washington, DC.

Yikes -- where did all you anti-Americans come from. At least a few seem to have come from another planet. If you don't like living here, the great thing about our country, which you don't seem to appreciate, is that you have FREEDOM! You can move anywhere you'd like. Go...no one's forcing you to stay here.

Why isn't there a Memorial Day for all the tens or hundreds or millions of non-combattants killed by all of the world's armies? How about all of the Mexicans, Philipinos, Japanese, Germans, Iraqis, Spaniards, etc. killed on behalf of this country in its pursuit of economic power?

As an Infantry draftee, served in Europe during World War II, I am saddened to hear how we should
remember those who died in combat by doing this or that. We were attacked by the Japs and Hitler was about to take over Europe, so World War II was a "just war". Then our govermnent decided to help France re-establish its Indo-China colony,so we donated 58,000 of our kids to that cause, which was impossible to win and wrong. Ditto the Korean mess, which was none of our business. Now the prize of them all was caused by the ignorance of those in our government, who should have known that, in every case where a strong force ruled a country with an iron thumb, keeping the fighting sides apart, that these sides would immediately starting fighting as soon as thumb was removed. If we want to honor our troop, KEEP THEM OUT OF NO-WIN WARS WHERE WE HAVE NO INTEREST! But when we must fight, make it a burden on all of us by reinstating the DRAFT and raising taxes to pay for it. That way, a constant pressure by the people will be on the folks in DC to make sure that we are asking our armed forces to do what is right and that we will all bear some of the burden. Also, make sure that the war is declared by Congress, not by a gung-ho President!

How about agreeing to pass a significant GI bill that not only offers educational benefits to returning vets but offers those same benefits to a member of a vet's family if the vet can't take advantage of them him or herself? Let's do something that not only honors our vets but does something substantial to make their futures easier and better! A little sacrifice from each of us, perhaps via an ear marked tax or a special fund akin to the campaign finance fund that anyone can elect to contribute to on the federal income tax return...

My friends all drive Dodges
I must make amends
Oh Lord won't you buy me
A Mercedes Benz

What! Dodge is Mercedes Benz? It's the other way around in reverse isn't it or did Gerry wise up and dump Chrysler? Still own Rills Royce do they? Maybe they'll finally manage an engine for those Messersmidts that can compete with a P-51 Mustang. It's Memorial Day. Remember that war?

All issues are economic. See you managed to slip in a little advertisement, "raising money" for really good causes. Putting bread on Dodge employee tables is a fairly good cause isn't it? How about those sales folk working today trying to make a living? In no time at all we'll be able to find starving children right under our feet.

One of the main (only) roles of government, as stated in the founding documents, is to defend its people. It's plain-- that is what our soldiers believe they are fighting and dying for.

Timothy Shriver is right to be sickened by the Dodge commercial. I agree wholeheartedly. But he misses the entire point of Memorial Day when he talks about how we should spend our freedom. He quotes Lincoln, but misunderstands why the our soldiers fought then and fight now. Our soldiers fight for America's security, America's concerns, America's freedom (which, at times, does involve the freedom of other countries and peoples).

Mr. Shriver asked us to imagine our soldiers in the Civil War and WWI fighting for the right to get a deal on a Dodge. That's a cheap juxtaposition. It is equally absurd to envision those same soldiers in both wars fighting so that the people of America could wait for their government to gather their resources to spend on acts of compassion around the world. Our soldiers in the Revolutionary War fought for freedom from a mother-ing government.

The truest thing Shriver said was something he didn't intend. "If our leaders won't direct that work, let's just do it ourselves." Atta boy! That's the whole point, Mr. Shriver. You, Mr. Shriver, have the freedom to gather people of like minds to do the things you think are important. I very much agree with several of your causes, by the way, and I do them through private groups of like-minded people who allow me to freely give instead of extricating money from me as governments will do.

But I'll talk out of the other side of my mouth, now. Our government does spend a great amount of money and compassionate effort around the world. Too much, a case could be made.

Getting back to our brave (and compassionate, with a few exceptions) soldiers. We went into this present conflict with the intentions of making our country safer by making the Middle East more stable-- a valid role of our government. A wonderful side effect, sanctioned by our government, has been the good work in many acts of kindness from our soldiers to the Iraqi people.

Is Mr. Shriver unaware of these things? Perhaps if he and other journalists were to report on the good things being done every once in a while, their writing could be an encouragement, instead of a constant indictment.

I get angry when I read a column like the one above, but I thank God-- and our soldiers that he has the right to say it.

The point of your article is well stated. I only wish more would pay attention and follow it.

Is it that much of a leap to feel that the best way to honor the sacrifice of those who serve our nation is to sacrifice some of the luxuries of our own lives?

It doesn't even have to be much. Go for a bike ride and picnic with your family rather than drive. Only purchase items you need and not the ones you merely want. Limit your intake of meat and/or highly processed foods. Turn off the AC and open all the windows in your house... there are so many things one can do this holiday to pay a real respect.

What a fascist.

Okay I'll wear a flag pin while I shop the sales.

No I won't.

when will we as Christians living in america wake up to the realities, hidden truths, and atrocities of the wars and conflicts we've been in. As a vet and reader of history, it saddens me that we can't see past our pride and self-righteousness. ("God bless America") proves my point.
How arrogant to think God is on someones side, or bless us and the hell with everyone else. It is time for us to go back through history and repent and make right what we have done as a country. Most of our problems, from the economy, race, religion, to politics, stems from how we have treated certain peoples and what we have done around the world in the name of so called DEMOCRACY OR HUMANITARIAN AID (policing)WHY do we have to be in 150 countries with over 700 militay intulations? CONTROL OF NATURAL RESOURCES, POWER, GREED, MILITARY BASE POSITIONING, POPULATION CONTROL = CORPORATE PROFITS...Have we not read and understood our constitution ? or read our founding fathers ? I think not, if we had we would not be in as many FOREIGN affairs or in as many wars and conflicts. I"ll leave you with a few quotes....READER ARE LEADERS.. "IF WE DO NOT SPEAK OF IT, OTHERS WILL SURELY REWRITE THE SCRIPT (history). EACH OF THE BODY BAGS, ALL OF THE MASS GRAVES WILL BE REOPENED AND THEIR CONTENTS ABRACADABRAED IN TO A NOBLE CAUSE...vietnam vet. or to the other view (spin)."WITHOUT CENSORSHIP(spin), THINGS CAN GET TERRIBLY CONFUSED IN THE PUBLIC MIND" gen. william westmoreland. and "THE HISTORIAN MUST HAVE NO COUNTRY" john quincy adams " TO STUDY FOREIGN AFFAIRS WITH PUTTING OURSELVES INTO OTHER'S SHOES IS TO DEAL IN ILLUSION AND TO PREPARE STUDENTS FOR A LIFELONG MISUNDERSTANDING OF OUR PLACE IN THE WORLD...(not over the world)paul gagnon. "WE HAVE TO FACE THE UNPLEASANT AS WELL AS THE AFFIRMATIVE SIDE OF THE HUMAN STORY, INCLUDING OUR OWN STORY AS A NATION, OUR OWN STORIES OF OUR PEOPLES. WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE THE UGLY FACTS IN ORDER TO PROTECT US FROM THE OFFICIAL VIEW OF REALITY. bill moyer READ "WAR IS A RACKET" BY GENERAL SMEDLEY D. BUTLER AND "LIES MY TEACHER TOLD ME" JAMESW. LOEWEN