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I wonder if Senator and Mrs. Obama's children were in church when the Reverend Wright was denouncing America, saying that 9/11 was "the chickens coming home to roost," that our government distributed the AIDS virus to the African-American community, and all of the other statements that sound like the ravings of an insane man. I hope that they would not expose their children to such anti-American ravings.

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March 18, 2008 10:18 PM

Well Tim,i am surprised you did not cast your moral opinion on New Yorks fallen govennor,any advice for a man who clearly abused his position of power.To the naked eye he appeared to be the perfect husband and father,makes you wonder.

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Jackie Endres says, "Jeremiah Wright exploded over the infuriating comment made by Ferraro!!!!"

Where on earth did you get that idea?

Please take note -- Wright's comments were taken from a DVD made of sermons he has preached over a period of years. He is now retired. As far as I know, he hasn't made any comments about Ferraro. If he did, I'm shocked I haven't heard them yet.

Have you? Please provide your source or stop saying such things.

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Obama the Audacity of hope? When he has prayed at the Alter of racist hate for 20 years! If elected President will it be Audacity for Revenge. No white Politicians would survive a day if they attended a church of hate for this Nation and Blacks for 20 years. Obama needs to withdraw and take his strange wife to Kanya where they can direct their hate at other tribes!

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There can be no Doubt that Obama and his wife are both Racist & American haters. After watching videos of their preacher I have lost all respect for Obama and anyone the attended that Church or still supports Obama. If any white had belonged or attended even one sermon of a church that spews that kind of hate they would be vilified by everyone, and rightly so. Michell was being honest when she said for the first time in her life she was proud of American. Because for all of her life she has hated American and most of its White Citizens! Obama belonged to that church for 20 years yet he does not share those views? That is beyond belief! How can he expect any one intelligence enough to vote, even a left wing loony to be that stupid? We have to get away from this double standard where it is ok for blacks to do things way over the line esp. ones that would be be President! It is very scary to think that someone that supported that preacher and went to that hate filled church for 20 years may be President! After watching those videos I can very easy see where Obama may well be a Muslin with a secret agenda for this Nation when elected! One thing for sure it is hard to see how anyone that listen to the venom spewed out from that so called preacher for 20 years can be a Christen! If Obama gets elected after this he will have did a better con job on the American public than any President in History even better than the Moron in the WH now.

Blacks need to start taking some personal responsibility for high rate of high school drop out, sexual promiscuity, children born out of wedlock, , absence of male parenting/role models, drugs, crime, incarceration, AIDS, and lack of personal responsibility instead of playing the victim hood game and blaming everyone else for their plight! Until that time there will always be hate mongers & race baiter,s to use them and profit from their plight like the Rev. Wright, Rev. Jessie Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton as well as 10,s of thousands of White and Black Politicians. In fact the whole Democrat party! Hands outs, instead of a hand up, is the means of keeping Blacks down and economic Slaves! Keeping Blacks as an race of victims instead of a race of achievers is in the best interest of Black preachers and Democrat politicians! Blacks will never be lead to the promise land by hate mongering Preachers like Rev. Wright or by bottom feeding Politician that wants and works to keep Blacks in the Ghetto on Welfare, and voting Democrat!

You know, there is a point to be made here. In my 42 years, that's my age, in this country, born and raised, everytime a minority, in my younger days minority meant "black American", spoke against ethnic injustice or highlighted, his or her words were controversial. I remember hearing a local newscaster refer to Spike Lee's movies as controversial. This same time, if a white American made comments regarding race or ethinicity, those comments were regarded racist. Now Pastor Wright was way the heck out there. My Congolese wife even says his words are unforgiven and inappropriate. I, as a black American who experienced prejudice and racial slurs here in the United States, do not condone the Reverend's words but understand why he could say them. Bottom-line is Senator Obama did not say them and it is hard to believe that he would, would agree with them, or tolerate them considering he has a little bit of everything in him. It would be like spitting on his ancestors graves. It was sad to read comments on here where those who use to support Senator Obama, a true agent for change, are not any more. Oh well, I can understand how you feel. Those words would not be appealing to me either though again, Senator Obama did not say them. I really don't think the Senator had time to visit the church that much and it was a church base for him and his family when they had time. But, hey, what can you say. I just wanted to drop my comments on this entire issue. As I told my wife last evening, there are generations of Americans who went experienced inequality on both sides, white and black people. Those generations have not healed yet, hopefully ours will. You don't have to forgive Reverend Wright but you should really think about forgiving Senator Obama, he did not utter those words and if we don't forgive him for ASSOCIATING with a could be racist, then the healing will not start. I think any one who has listen to all of the candidates, except those who defiantly support a candidate, know who the real agent of change is. If you don't, your ears were closed and your mind is made up. It is definitely not politicians who have been in office for years, they would have done something or stimulating some change by now, don't you think?

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The only reason Obama is running for president was the response he received to one speach he made as a young Senator or while he was in the Senate race...can't remember. Yup, it was a good speach. After that speach, he was deemed a Democratic Prodigy...a man of the future. He got lucky once, and his fame spread...kind of like that Dupre call girl that serviced former NY Governor Spitzer...she's an overnight success and I 'm sure she will now get a record deal. And don't kid yourself people. Obama's race has worked out in his favor over the past few years (I can't fault him for that though). Compared to Rev. Jesse Jackson, he's a saint...but his reverend certainly isn't. This is one of those things that he had no idea would come back to haunt him because he never dreamed a few years back he'd be running for President. If he knew he would be running, he would have high tailed it out of that church after first hearing such politically disastrous (and despicable in my opinion) comments by Rev. White. The fact that he stayed, and in fact considers the man "family" speaks volumes and makes me wonder what other skeletons Obama has in his closet. If any are as damaging as this fiasco, then he is definately in trouble.

LittleDoc writes: "Right down the drain."

So he's going to bring us up out of the drain and then send us back down again? That seems like a lot of extra work.

I have not read all of the comments posted, but I think this fiasco is ridiculous. If Senator Obama considers himself a spiritual man; a man of independent thought and stout character then I am fairly confident he can weather this nuisance. What separates man from beast is free thought and discerning intellect. I think most of you agitators give others too much credit for the influence of one on another person's life. It isnt necessarily absurd to think one person can wield influence damming (see Jim Jones) or inspiring (see Dr. King); however we are ultimately responsible for OUR own actions. And all of this is an issue when there is starvation in the richest country, when thousands are losing their homes and jobs. Where is the humanity in this matter? Find some of significance and I might move this issue up from the bottom 10th to the bottom 20th on importance.

The measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. Thank you Dr. King

Obama defends Pastor Wright's hate filled sermons as "fierce criticism" of the US. This is nonsense. Obama is showing his true colors by tap dancing around the truth to get in office. B. Hussein Obama does not love this country that he is so consumed with leading. Rather, he will say anything to get into office so he can try and change this great country into his twisted vision of he thinks the country should be. And since his vision has been shaped by the hate filled likes of Wright it is not hard to imagine where Obama would take us. Right down the drain.

Jeremiah Wright exploded over the infuriating comment made by Ferraro!!!!

After the long history of the black being in hell then to have some one say that Obama wouldn't be in the position if he wasn't black the floodgates came down and the anger spewed forth aftger three hundred years of being treated like maggots.

As if black conferred special favors for Barack Obama in this campaign. It is hysterically ironic.

Jeremiah Wright exploded over the infuriating comment made by Ferraro!!!!

After the long history of the black being in hell then to have some one say that Obama wouldn't be in the position if he wasn't black the floodgates came down and the anger spewed forth aftger three hundred years of being treated like maggots.

As if black conferred special favors for Barack Obama in this campaign. It is hysterically ironic.

Great speech that had some hard truths mentioned. However listening to an occasional racist statement by a Grandparent (who you can't choose), and choosing to attend a church where the leader obviously despises the US government, and by extension the US, is totally different. Obama has been disqualified from becoming president (20 years of subliminal brainwashing). He seems like is a likable guy, but to run the country you must be a true believer in the US (warts and all).

I think Mr. Shriver and most whites are reprehensible for insinuating that Reverand White's words were hateful and even more incendiary than the hate and venom that springs forth from many white conservatives and their pastors in the Religioius Right.

Mike Huckabee is a racist baptist Minister who defended the Confederate Flag -

White Conservatives regularly - as they are doing now with Obama and his Pastor - use racism in order to win elections

They visit Bob Jones University - insinuate that African-Americans are intellectually inferior - etc.

Whites and many Jews have no love for the black American Community - Reverand White has merely responded in kind - he's told the truth -he has acknowledged that racism exists ni America.

What is so wrong in saying God Damn America?

Whites would try to silence persons who speak out against racism in America

Yet they act as if Reverand White is even more hateful than Mike Huckabee - or Jerry Falwell?

This whole thing is sickening.

Forty years ago the Civil Rights movement was hijacked by hate-spewing demagogues who drowned out the voices promoting the dignity of all men and national reconciliation.
These past 40 years have seen the U.S.A. revise its federal and state laws with the aim of making racial discrimination against non-Caucasian people illegal.
Unfortunately, many of those who might have been able to take advantage of these changes were and continue to be convinced by such demagogic voices to not participate in the common culture of the U.S.A., and, instead, to self-segregate themselves (using, among other things, a culture of victimhood, racial animosity, and pride in academic illiteracy), thus ensuring to this day the existence of a permanent underclass identifiable by race.
We Americans must repent of this sad detour that, tragically, was not sufficiently opposed due to both the political correctness of the 60's and 70's cultures and "white guilt".
We need to make real the 1963 dream that each of us judges any other by the content of the other's character, not the color of the other's skin.
Wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air? Political Correctness would evaporate. And on that clear day, we'll be able to see forever.

I've never seen such outrage over someone speaking the simple truth. Oh.. wait.. this is America. Nevermind.

Everyone has someone who they care for, who may at times say or do the wrong things. It doesn't mean we throw them under the bus. Wright's statements, while inflammatory, need to be understood in the context of half a millenia of slavery and Jim Crow.

Obama seems to be saying to those who would use this to attack his own character, "Get over it."

Once again, Obama's confident virtue shines like a beacon for all of us to see.

Bravo, Obama

Jeremiah Wrights words are shocking to white America because they are the truth. Its called HATE because too many white people want to ignore the FACTS stated in Rev Wrights comments. Calling Rev. Wright's language HATE is the root of what he was saying.
White men, who are grew up in or are direct descendents of White men who lived and developed in a racially divided America, are in control the media and how much of Rev. Wright's message was delivered. They have turned what black Americans have to go through into our own fault if we say anything about it. Racism still exists.
His language and the affirmation of his congregation is HURT from white America's constant denial that too many (not all) of their own still harbor "oppressive" attitudes. We will only be a country united when these speeches are made in WHITE churches as well. God Bless America.

Lots of folks think the media is biased against their candidate or some other nonsense.

The only thing the media is biased about is circulation and ratings (or, in the modern era, page views).

Sex, religion, and race incite great disagreement among us, and therefore increase readership or viewers. The only thing that could make this even more ludicrous is if Obama had to denounce Britney Spears.

But while we lemmings sit here in the muck reopening our festering wounds and making money for big media, we ignore the bigger issues at play in our nation.

After all, what's more interesting? Replaying the 60s Civil Rights Movement and the bigotry, veiled or otherwise, that fueled our parents' and grandparents' rage, or debating the merits of mandating that everyone purchase health insurance vs. merely mandating that the insurance companies provide affordable and accessible health insurance and letting Americans make their own choice regarding coverage?

The issues in this election are laid out for us to examine. They do not involve a crazy Pastor who has been disavowed. They involve the future of this country. We are at a crossroads.

Wake up.

Lynn says: "There is nothing he can say today that will excuse him sticking around this beast for 20 years."

Well, that's pretty definitive, isn't it? Thus, my questions below are not addressed to you, but to people who are a little more open than you.

So, to these other people:

- Would you consider changing your mind if you heard another tape, perhaps two or three times as long as the original 30 second clip of Wright, that showed him to be mellow and compassionate?

- Would you reflect on people in your life who you stick by because you love them and they’ve enhanced your life, even though you disagree vehemently with some of their views and on occasion they’ve embarrassed you greatly?

- Will you acknowledge that sometimes the media distorts things and that after you get other information, you change your mind?

I hope there are many people who are willing to think about these things, rather than close themselves off the way Lynn has.

Also love the "bubble has burst" talking point. Keep it up, Clintonites. The only thing the Clintons and Bush's know how to do is foment Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.

I can only pray American sees beyond the FUD in 2008...

Uh Bud,
The cause of the September attacks were terrorists bent on killing Americans--policies don't murder people. Killing thousands of people is not justified because a group of Arabs do not like our policies. And with regard to Israel, most of us in America do not believe they are "corrupt".

It is this "Reverends" angry, nasty tone lashing out at other victims of society that detracts from any truth he may be speaking. But lets look at his praise for the vile anti-semite Farrakhan. I can only take from that that Wright too hates Jews. Yes, slavery is evil. Yes, racism still exists. But isn't it about time people were constructive about addressing these issues? Making nasty remarks about another oppressed people (the Jewish people) is not way to rise up or help your people rise up. This Wright person loses all credibility. And Obama should be ashamed being a member of his church for 20 years.

What is truly amazing is what the people who post here claiming that Wright told the truth have to believe. That the US Government gave drugs to black folks to turn them into addicts? That it invented the AIDS virus? That the people killed on 9/11 got what was coming? What interesting minds they must have.
I suppose that it takes all kinds.Certainly anyone who believes this man's crackpot conspiracy theories and shares his ethical judgment belongs no where in public office.Much less the Oval one.

I am an Obama supporter (Gave money, voted for) and believe he will be the president to represent my views and help our country.

I grew up in Brooklyn NY with lots of African Americans. I have seen terrible things whites have done to blacks and visa versa (I have been mugged by African Americans many times). There is no way I can understand what its like to be African American.

I know that what the reverend said is what is felt deeply and truly by his flock and others. For me he is speaking their truth, a black truth, not mine or yours, but theirs.

He has that right to speak and NOT be persecuted. As a Jew many rabbis speak pejoratively about Arabs, they have that right to do so though I may not agree.

I am voting for Mr. Obama and not his preacher. Though they are close and have a bond that does not meant they are one in the same. Guilt by association is strange when Mr. Obama shows no evidence to support the upsets felt by this reverend.

Judge not least ye be judged seams to fit this moment for me. I don't have the black experience to judge that what this reverend was saying.

OMG, here we go again with right wing media, and the WashPost keep going at it again, try for WM distraction, we are so worry about Obama's preacher and forgetting what the republicans have done for the past 7 years, I have not seing the outrage over the lies bush told us to start this war that cost us over 850 billion dollars, I did not seing the Post examining Mccain's Health care plan and social security plan.

Comical that with all the real issues out there worth discussing (2 days from now being the 5th anniversary of the Iraq War and botched occupation, close to 20% of Americans without access to affordable healthcare, an economy in the tank, and rampant cronyism and corruption in government), that everyone is focusing on this circus sideshow.

Look, they're politicians. They do things to get elected. They all do. You don't think there are skeletons in John McCain's closet? I've been on the Hill, and I've seen his temper up close and personal. He is at times emotionally unstable. You would think that a 70+ year old man would be able to control his emotions, but at times he can't. Lots of his colleagues think he's nuts. Personally, I think he's an honorable man who has been to Hell and back in his lifetime and I forgive him his foibles because I see the greater goodness in him.

Senator Clinton refuses to disclose her basic financial information, nor that of her husband. The Saudis have donated millions to the Clinton Presidential Library and have personally ferried him on private jets to/from Saudi Arabia for speaking engagements to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. The NY Times reported this late last year. But the Clintons refuse to disclose their tax returns or the donor list to the Clinton Library. Why? Folks, this is truly important information that has to come to light! The Clintons are bought and paid for by foreign governments, corporations, lobbyists, and special interests.

Obama has this nutty Pastor in his background. The nutty Pastor that doesn't beg questions of whether or not Obama is suited to be President, but whether or not he has a secret "Black Supremacist" agenda. Race is the one constant undercurrent in American society. It is inevitable that the first black man with a legitimate shot at the Presidency has to answer questions as to whether or not he is a threat to the predominantly white aristocracy of this country.

Take the tin foil hats off, people. Reverend Wright is merely the forcing function. Barack Obama does not have a secret agenda. He has merely arrived at the point that all of us knew he eventually would.

He now has to answer the fundamental question: "Does a black man deserve to be President of the United States?"

His bubble has burst and it is a shame. At least for a little while, we were led to beileve that this man was different. That he could really take us in a new direction of coming together. Oh how we wanted to believe! We all want a better world and nation and latched on to the dream he presented to us. Now that reality has set in (or been exposed), I am so very, very sad.Yes, some white ancesters years ago did horrific things to blacks. But until the present-day blacks can forgive and let go of their anger (as a good Christian should), nothing will ever change. The whites who voted for Barack proved that they have a different attitude today and can look beyond race, but it all came tumbling down because certain blacks could not do the same as they continue to cling to their unforgiving, hate-filled and even anti-American attitudes.I couldn't believe that the Barack Obama who had so inspired me could be associated in any way with the poisonous, hateful speech of the Rev. Wright. It was also disheartening to watch the clapping, cheering and high-fiving of the so-called "church" members after some of the most offensive comments by himI really thought that maybe there was finally a wonderful role-model for black youth and even all youth that is so desparately needed today. I guess that leaves us with Bill Cosby who has been brave enough to "tell it like it is" and put responsiblity where it belongs (with each of us individually, black and white) instead of playing the "blame game". Barack, you gave us a dream and now you have taken it away. I know that I am not the only one who is sad, sad, sad, and so, so, sorry.

Mr. Shriver

"A hidden affinity for a harsh and ruthless preacher..."

First you offer a subjective and unsubstantiated attribution about Pastor Wright's character as "mean-spirited and divisive" and "harsh and ruthless".

Then you suggest that Barack Obama must either repudiate the man based on your attributions to *your* satisfaction because not to do so is sufficient proof that he is guilty of the same sins. You further suggest that he must have a "hidden affinity" (overtones of secrecy and perversion?) or Mr. Obama couldn't possibly have bonded with Pastor Wright in the first place. You express your hateful attributions as though they are generally understood and accepted without question.

This is exactly the process whereby people and groups are marginalized and demonized. It's an evil process that ignorant and intolerant people have always used to justify not only everyday discrimination, but terrible, terrible crimes against other human beings. This is how the holocaust became possible. This is how the Rwanda massacre and ethnic cleansing in the Balkans was possible. This is what fuels the murdering in Darfur and the middle east.

If anyone should be ashamed of sowing divisiveness, mean-spritedness, and harsh ruthlessness, sir, it is you.

The sad thing is that McCain did the right thing and stepped up to defend Obama's character. Hillary was silent.

If Hillary steals the nomination, I will not only happily vote for him, I will work for him and contribute to his campaign. His politics aren't exactly mine, but at least he is a decent man with character.

All I can say is I attend a predominately black church and if I ever heard my pastor speak that way I would walk out and never come back...

Why do the Post and the Kennedy's insist on being the defenders of the Obama campaign? Mr. Shriver is offering all kinds of advice to Obama: "Obama has to..." "Obama must..." "He needs to..." "He must..." "I hope the Obama campaign..." "Obama must realize..."

I don't see the Post defending other candidates the way they defend this one.

His very close 20 year relationship with a "Pastor" that spews hate is embarrassing to say the least. If this was any of the other candidates, they would no longer be in the race. I used to think that the excitement of this Presidential race was constructive. But now it has reached a point that is destructive for the country. His speech today should be about withdrawing from the race to salvage what he has left.

His description of his relationship with his Pastor is just the latest example of Obama changing his story to suit his audience. The public is not buying it. He has changed stories on other issues: NAFTA, public financing, relationship with REZCO, using other speeches, money from special interests, etc. Then when someone dares to criticize his inconsistencies, they are charged with racism. It reminds me a little of the GWB administration calling people unpatriotic for criticizing them. His campaign has been playing with the race issue from the beginning:

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304

The deception has become the pattern.

Enough is enough. There is no credibility left. Please stop defending him.

There is nothing wrong or flawed in Jeremiah Wright speaking the truth of America's problems and what has been viewed as wrong but never changed. He just has the confidence to speak it and ensure that those congregants who trust him for knowledge are given a snippet of whats really going on in our country.

Until we stop burning down ALL churches, businesses, allowing (and accepting) racially divided groups to spread a message of hate in America. Sending our jobs to overseas factories to making a bigger profit. Building more jails and prisons instead of improving our colleges and moreover, choosing to criticize a pastor for speaking his mind on issues of Americas ills; we will NEVER be a better America.

Thousands of people have written about the errors of Jesse Jackson, Bill Clinton and others over the years. Lets think of how George Wallace refused to change and was celebrated for speaking out. Bull Connor for his outward misuse of force on people and the many catalyst for division in America.

Whenever Americans accept that there is a divisive line that has been in place for years and HONESTLY work for change, we will be better. This is doing more to continue to divide rather than include.

There is nothing wrong or flawed in Jeremiah Wright speaking the truth of America's problems and what has been viewed as wrong but never changed. He just has the confidence to speak it and ensure that those congregants who trust him for knowledge are given a snippet of whats really going on in our country.

Until we stop burning down ALL churches, businesses, allowing (and accepting) racially divided groups to spread a message of hate in America. Sending our jobs to overseas factories to making a bigger profit. Building more jails and prisons instead of improving our colleges and moreover, choosing to criticize a pastor for speaking his mind on issues of Americas ills; we will NEVER be a better America.

Thousands of people have written about the errors of Jesse Jackson, Bill Clinton and others over the years. Lets think of how George Wallace refused to change and was celebrated for speaking out. Bull Connor for his outward misuse of force on people and the many catalyst for division in America.

Whenever Americans accept that there is a divisive line that has been in place for years and HONESTLY work for change, we will be better. This is doing more to continue to divide rather than include.

Reminds me of a meaningful quote:

"All our visitors bring us happiness, some by coming and some by leaving."

You can't be angry and stay put to benefit anytime you can. Barack Hussain Obama and his "desciples" keeping an eye like a hawk or vulture on anyone makes a mistake, slips, falls or comments about him and his, quick to call everybody who disagree a racist, but when it comes to their own "try to justify it." He does not know that Wright made those speeches? Wow, what about what Angry Lady Michelle said?

What is the difference between what Farakhan, Wright, and Michelle Obama said? Nothing but the same that they admire the same man and he admires them.

The denial and condemnation of Farrakhan's endorsement didn't come until forced to, same with the Wright's comments, we just waiting to hear what he says about Michelle's comments.

Nothing but the sheeps of the same flock of racism and pointing fingers at others.

Than you.

There is nothing he can say today that will excuse him sticking around this beast for 20 years. Sorry, you can try to invoke the name of Falwell and Pat Robertson, Geraldine Ferraro, whoever, but the fact remains that this is the pastor that he chose for his children to listen to and be mentored from - give me a break - he is a fake.

I think that you have to give Rev. Wright a pass on the comments about 9/11. I mean, look at the date - 9/16/01. There was a LOT of heated rhetoric being flung around in churches that day. How are Rev. Wright's comments any more offensive than Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson's, blaming 9/11 on Gays, Feminists, and Pagans? I am sorry for your loss on 9/11. But, you have to step back and look at things from a different perspective.

Pat Harris:

Those who of us who may not like the tone and words he used but are sympathetic to his message and anger - love our family, our community, our country, and Earth.

I think we must change our foreign policy to cure the root cause of what happened on 9/11.

Your comments mirror mine and those of my husband. We voted for Obama in the New Jersey primary. If we had known about Obama's membership in Rev. Wright's church we would have voted for Hillary. His rants about 9/11 are infuriating to those of us who love this country, and unbearable for those of us who lost a loved on in the terrorist attacks.

Colorado Kool aid asks: “Why did the church choose THESE comments for their video if it was ‘out of context.’"

You’re a little confused – it was the media, not the church, that chose those particular comments – and I’m hoping you can guess why. The church published an entire DVD of the pastor’s complete sermons given over a period of years. Then the media went through them, picking out the inflammatory parts. If there were more inflammatory parts, you can bet the TV clip you’ve seen repeated a zillion times would be a lot longer.

Williego46 says: “he [Obama] lacked the political savvy to realize that even if he agreed with the reverend, he needed to pretend he didn't.”

I see no indication of pretending. Nothing in Obama’s speeches indicates that he agrees with the video clips we’ve seen of Pastor Wright. Just the opposite, in fact. Does it occur to you that the pastor has heard Obama’s speeches and sees how different the tone and content are?

Bud:

Even if you end up disagreeing, you need to go further back than 9/11 to understand what Rev. Wright is saying about 'corrupt foreign policy'. You will need to consider Western Imperialism, the Ottomans, the Arab-Israeli wars, the negotiations over Jerusalum, the West Bank, and Gaza, the oil industry, the arms industry, World War I and II, US and western foreign policy in the Middle East, and that is not a complete list.

He's not saying something that isn't out there. For more on that point of view, I suggest reading Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn.

I watched more of the clips on Rev. Wright and the thing that bothered me was his 'damning' not the content of what he said. It bothered me like Falwell when he used similar words.

Not what he said, but how he said it.

But I understand his anger...

Regarding the comment: "The flare-up over the hateful words of Barack Obama’s minister, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., dominated the news cycle this weekend."

I fail to see how rightly pointing out the country's past moral failings - many of which continue today - is in any way 'hateful.' If your diagnosis is cancer, is the doctor who told you about it also 'hateful?' You cannot cure what you cannot name.

And how hateful would you suppose are slavery, lynchings, Jim Crow, segregation, denial of voting rights and institutionalized racism?

How hateful was the Tuskegee syphilis "experiment"
How hateful was Bull Connor and his dogs?
How hateful were those fire hoses turned on peaceful protesters?
How hateful was the assassination of Medgar Evers? Of King?

Am I hateful to bring these unpleasant historical facts to your attention? Cry me a river.

Let's live in the real world, folks.

"He also said the September 11 attacks were the result of a corrupt U.S. foreign policy."

Um, gee, I really hate to burst your bubble here, but they were ......

I am waiting for one person to come forward with proof of Obama talking in any way with hate or bigotry. One person. You all think that if anyone knew anything they would not come forward?

My pastor, parents and neighbors were Christian, I am not. So their words did not attach themselves to me.

terra

I want to know if this pastor talked this stuff all the time...why then are there 6 years between the clips that add up to less then 30 seconds? Has anyone LISTENED to them? I had an argument with another poster in another forum...he called the Pastor a lier for saying Black Men were used for experiments, given Syphllis. Then given placebos instead of meds. It is true, it happened.

An unfair justice system that gives black men longer sentences for the same crimes a white man does..

We did bomb 400,000 people and even today cancer and mutated babies are the result. We did that...and this country is not run by rich white men? It's not???

Obama's mother was white, his grandparents raised him...they were white. First the whistpers that Obama was Muslim. because his father came from Kenya...but his father was Atheist. His mother spiritual not religious. No Obama was not Muslim. But now you have to attack him for his pastor. Make up your mind, you hate him because of his Muslim religion or the truth his pastor says...or is it his race? Well..if it is race, just vote for the white half.

And for you people that claim Pastor Wright an anti semite...Jews and Muslims are semites. People throw that word around alot, and have no idea what it means.

Who can forget the Rev. Billy Graham’s unfortunate conversations with Richard Nixon and H.R. Haldeman about the Jews? They made anti-Semitic jokes, talked about which reporters were Jewish and how reporting had deteriorated since more Jews had become journalists. Nixon complained (on tape) that the Jews had a “stranglehold on the country” and Billy Graham responded: “If you get elected a second time then we might be able to do something.”

Did anyone repudiate Billy Graham?

Bill Crystal from the NYT made a claim that he was able to prove that Obama was in the church on July 22 when one clip came from. Except he was in Florida talking to La Rza at the time. Cyrstal had to appologize today, He had got the news from Newsmax. Gods...he should know Newsmax is not the place to get truth.

You people can not be saying stuff that you know is true. All I can say is prove it. For the stuff you are saying.../prove it.

Until you do you all are just bigoted, racist liers.

Why not have clips from each week...why have clips from the pastor 6 years apart? Over 27000 mineuts and all that came from it was 30 seconds?Can anyone think? Or does being spoon fed garbage for all these years of the Bush gang warped your reasoning?

How about all those White pastors that Damned New Orleans because of gays...or Damned New York because of the ACLU, Gays and us Pagans? How about the pastors that claim America is damned for abortions..How about Fred Phelps, that go to soldiers funerals and say God is happy when a soldier dies? What no rage over that? Why, cause Phelps is white?

No where has Rev Wright preached white hatred...he said America was ruled by wealthy whites..and it is. Are you all wealthy? Is it not the owners of corporations that run us? Is it people that are loseing their homes getting bailed out or that Bear and Stearns for Billions. Now are you mad because the Pastor w