The Economy: Between Cynical Fear and Penitent Hope

The Money Changers gives some interesting perspective

Then and now.

http://coinage.me/coinage_the_money_changers.htm

L.Kurt Engelhart:

"Morality can be expressed simply by the saying . . "
Your morality perhaps. There is no universal morality. Correct me if I am wrong.

"we must all hang together or we will hang separately."
How does that apply to other scenarios, say the sinking of the Titanic. Are those that did not 'hang together' and drown immoral? Are those that escaped Europe before the Holocaust immoral for not staying and 'hanging together'?
"Those who would exploit any resource for their own benefit, without regard for the needs of others like themselves, are immoral, and have the capability to bring all of us to ruin"

The weakness of that statment is the word 'exploit'
If I eat a bananna, that is purely for my own benefit. But have I exploited that bannana?

In fact the logical extension of your thesis is that I really should just go ahead and die, get out of the way of everyone else since everyone else is more important than I am. There is no 'I' in morality is there?

It is a mortal sin to lend money for interest.
You are not a Christian if you do so.

L.KURT ENGELHART

You wrote, "Morality can be expressed simply by the saying, "we must all hang together or we will hang separately." Hanging together is the essence of morality.", hanging together has absolutely nothing to do with morality.

"Hanging together" might be nothing better than mob rule. Pure democracy can also be nothing but mob rule, if the majority does not care for the minority, they can squash them and they would be telling the truth saying that it was democracy in action, would they not?

You went on to say, " Those who would exploit any resource for their own benefit, without regard for the needs of others like themselves, are immoral, and have the capability to bring all of us to ruin.", THE NEED OF OTHERS LIKE THEMSELVES.

What about those that are not like "themselves" or should they be ignored or looked down upon or just simply thought of as sub-human.

As long as anyone has a us vs them attitude concerning any other human being be it: nationalistic, form of government, religion, race, or whatever, there will be exploitation, don't you think?

Have you ever heard the phrase, We're Number 1, well for someone to be number 1 in that way, means that all the others are less than number 1, does it not?

By the way, America was not set up as a democracy but as a republic form of government, as I said earlier pure democracy can degenerate into mob rule, and I am not speaking of a benevolent mob rule, very quickly given the right set of circumstances.

Morality comes from within because it cannot be forced on someone from outside, that is coersion.

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

Morality can be expressed simply by the saying, "we must all hang together or we will hang separately." Hanging together is the essence of morality. Those who would exploit any resource for their own benefit, without regard for the needs of others like themselves, are immoral, and have the capability to bring all of us to ruin. This is a lesson that cannot be learned in one lifetime, maybe not even in several, but it is a lesson that any educated and experienced human being knows well. What we have not yet learned is how to deal with the immoral among us when they have achieved great power, and can no longer be held morally accountable. Democratic government is the treatment we have been experimenting with.

--- Let the Bush's, Chaneys et al, and Bankers Swallow & Loose. Not Tax Payers & Home, Condo, Coop Owners!

--- ABOLISH 'CREDiT SLAVERY" & their Credit Slave Owners in AMERiCA & World NOW!

Explanation:

The first misconception that most people have is that the Federal Reserve Bank is a branch of the US government. IT IS NOT. THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS A PRIVATE COMPANY.

Most people believe it is as American as the Constitution. THE FACT IS THE CONSTITUTION FORBIDS IT'S EXISTENCE. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to create money and regulate the value thereof, NOT A BUNCH OF INTERNATIONAL BANKERS!

Today the FED controls and profits by printing WORTHLESS PAPER, called money, through the Treasury, regulating its value, AND THE BIGGEST OUTRAGE OF ALL, COLLECTING INTEREST ON IT! (THE SO-CALLED NATIONAL DEBT). The FED began with approximately 300 people or banks that became owners, stockholders purchasing stock at $100 per share - the stock is not publicly traded) in the Federal Reserve Banking System. They make up an international banking cartel of wealth beyond comparison.

The FED banking system collects billions of dollars in interest annually and distributes the profits to its shareholders. The Congress illegally gave the FED the right to print money through the Treasury at no interest to the FED.

The FED creates money from nothing, and loans it back to us through banks, and charges interest on our currency. The FED also buys Government debt with money printed on a printing press and charges U.S. taxpayers interest. Many Congressmen and Presidents say this is fraud. Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks?

The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: 1. Rothschild Bank of London 2. Warburg Bank of Hamburg [ROTHCHILDS] 3. Rothschild Bank of Berlin 4. LEHMAN Brothers of New York 5. Lazard Brothers of Paris [ROTHCHILDS] 6. Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York 7. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy 8. GOLDMAN, Sachs of New York 9. Warburg Bank of Amsterdam [ROTHCHiLDS] 10. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York.

Intellectual Credits to: http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t61457.html

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The 1st Signs of Americas Woes [Depression], was when 'The BANKERS' sold-off, or 'Spun-off' the Commodities EXCHANGES & then the Various Stock Exchanges (Electronic or Not) who found themselves in "I.P.O.'s (Initial Public Offerings), just like the Companies that they Made 'MARKETS" in & at!

iMPORTANT: Bamkers make Money (Brokerages) Either during BOOMS (Up, BULL) & or BUSTS (down, BEARS)!

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iNCAMERA (Secret) The OIL CARTELs of Earth Threatened the U.S. Reserve via G.W. Bush & Chaney & McCain, that They Will CHANGE or Switch 'PETRO-DOLLAR" Currencys with someone Else. Possibly Both or a Mix with The Russia (RUBLE) & the European (EURO). Or a Third Currency.

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REMEMBER & Never Forget: The vPrez Dan Quale & Bush's & John McCain's "KEATiNG-5 'Savings & Load [Commercial Loans] Scandals"!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

REMEMBER & NEVER Forget the "ENRON" Evangelical Scandal!

http://en .wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron

REMEMBER & Never Forget Todays BUSH's, CHANEYs, McCains, .. Quazi Gov & Private "FREDDiE Mac & Fannie May" Home Mortgage Scandal. Note: The KOREAN (South) DEVELOPMENT BANK is the Culprit in America!

http://www .annaly.com/ie/ffmfaq.html

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ATTENTiON, R.E.P.U.B.L.i.C.A.N.s:

GOOD Bye For the next 20 Years! Good Riddence McCAiN/Palin!

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Note: A DEMOCRAT is like a MOTHER (not Palin) when it's time to take over the Households (America) most daminding Chores. And

A REPUBLiCAn is like a FATHER (not McCain) When it's time to take over the Housholds (USA) most Demanding Chores! And

A LiBERAL is like a AUNT or UNCLE when its time to take over the Houses Chores!

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A Prophecy Whose Time Is Cometh:

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- VOTE: Abolish 'CREDiT SLAVERY" & Incarsarate their Slave Owners Today!

VOTE: AMNESTY To All Mortgage Problemed Home Owners , not Illegal Aliens 1st!!!

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