Immigration Gets 'Churchy'

MAM:

The "HEALTHCARE-DEBATE" should simply Waite AFter the U.S. CENSUS 2010; This, not to distant "STATISTIC?" will have Majical outcomes/results & more Savings, for ALL Dear AMERICAN's (Legal & Illegal)!

And best of All: President Obama & CO., Will Be Re-Elected via a "LAND-SLIDE"!

Such is "Predicted, slightly Prophecied?" IF & only IF His Honorable Brother Slamin-Dunkin BAMA waits after the U.S. CENSUS-2010 gallops around the Blesseth Continent of U.S.A & FAMILY!

Meant "SANCTUARY" (City's)

upppps.

On "SANCUARY CITIES" and Protections of.

S.B.T.:

Example: Just because SECULAR protected places like 'NEW YORK CITYs" and their Authorities can locally protect Illegal human Aliens from "ICE" (the FEDS);

Does not mean that the "CHURCHES" (or Any) can compete [Market Share] for those 'knowingly being Illegal Mexicans, Ukranians, Chinese... and expect to collect their tithes 'Tax-Free'?

This is UNETHICAL not only IMMORAL acts! It's not like saving JEWS in Europe from the Holocausting Nazi's or harboring George Washington (May he rest in Peace) from the British or French et al.

Reasoning: A True Americanized and Authorized or respected THEOLOGIAN (Revvi, Immam, Priest...) CHURCH, SINOGOGUE, MOSQUE, TEMPLE or House or Stadium of Worships, living & enriching themselves off the U.S. Tax Payers via "THE 1913, 501(c) (3) LAW " must tell All Illegals of their Congregation or not, that

Being Undocumented in Righteous America is a CRIME (not against Humanity but) against Uncle-Sams intent like gods intent!

Yes, WE agree with blogger

"USAPDX"

Stay out of SECULAR BIZ!

Ps: But the most Righteous thing All U.S.A. Churches and their Theologians can do, not Hope, is to tell All known Illegal (or Confessing ones) that tell them illegals that They "MUST" (SHOULD is not good enough) to Participate , honestly in the up & Coming

"U.S. CENS-U.S. 2010" Then this will make the "Survey" Statistically most accurate and thus Each "COUNTY" , in All 50 States will bennefit; includes those Illegals; especially their Children!

Lately in places like Prince William County the law seems to dislike illegal immigrants just as much if not more than it dislikes homosexuals. I remember when the Amendment 1 passed with 60% of the vote, along with other laws to not recognize gay marriages and civil unions from other states. I thought the laws were redundant and mean-spirited. With the laws in PWC having illegal immigrants afraid to leave their homes for fear of being pulled over by police, discovered, and deported, it seems as bad if not worse. I think Arizona's state laws are even tougher.

I think part of the motivation is needless fear and ethnic cleansing of the signs and Latin music we Anglos aren't used to.

The rest of it is probably concern over more pressing matters such as crime (international terrorist gangs like MS-13) and the perceived cost to social welfare and schools and hospitals, although the immigrants also pay taxes withheld from their paychecks and often filed voluntarily (although they cannot collect Social Security benefits). Also that illegal immigrants would add to the number of uninsured needing to be covered under national health care, if only to check the spread of infectious disease.

Perhaps also the irritating fact that America is being taken advantage of under the current legal definition of the 14th Amendment.

THOES THAT PAY NO TAXES, WHY DO THEY SPEAK OUT ON POLITICAL ISSUES OR CANADATES? IT TIME THAT CONGRESS BRINGS THE 1913, 501(c) (3) LAW UP TO DATE AND REQUIRE ANY THAT FILE TAX EXAMPT FOR THE GIVEN YEAR MUST REGESTER WITH THE I.R.S. AS WELL AND NOT TO SPEAK ON ANY POLITICAL ISSUE OR CANDIDATE. THE PLUS 12,000,000 ILLEGALS IS A POLITICAL ISSUE WHO ALL OF THE ILLEGALS ARE IN VIOLATION OF U.S.A. LAW AS THEIR ILLEGAL EMPLOYEERS ARE. THE TAX PAYER PICK UP THE TAB ROGER. CALL YOUR CONGRESS MEMBERS FOR CHANGE!

There was a sermon a few months back making clear that we were to provide love and basic support (food, necessities) to anyone, including an illegal stranger. It aroused the passion in the assistant pastor (the pastor's husband), and his last words were sharp and directed apparently to some congregationalists whom he knew disagreed with the message.

Chris Marsh
Mt. Vernon Baptist Church
Arlington

Farnaz:

Working farms is hard work. In day's past it was standard practice for local (non-farm family) children to work farms during harvest for extra money or, part of the "unsaid conditions" for dating a farmer's daughter.

Taking up "a cause" contrary too stated policy , often will get you stoned or worst by community. Names like traitor and such. Sometimes the threat and actual force against family.

Book of James:
Tight Communities, protect families of husbands lost, in those actions.

I said this once before, on a cold,winter night,
Let's go!
It was a "one way ticket",but it was redemption.
Is that a sin?

If the situation weren't so tragic it would be funny. Illegal immigration comes about because largely Republican business owners demand right to work laws and immigration restrictions which encourage people working in the shadows. If undocumented workers were unionized, they would not be hired. If they could demand market wages and decent working conditions, there would be no demand for them.

Posted by: michaelbindner |
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This is absolutely the case. Any legal residents want to be migrant farm workers?

What say, folks? Cuz without them, we'd all be dead. Anyone on this thread wanna volunteer for the cause?

Jews have a very long history of caring for immigrants, beginning with the first great wave of Eastern European refugees from Russian Orthodox terror. Victims of Catholic, Lutheran terror, "Communist" (i.e., Catholic, Lutheran, Russian Orthodox) terror continued to be helped, and this remains the case today.
Fleeing Iran with my family, we were embraced by Jews who wanted to help us.

It is good to see that other religions have followed suit. What would not be good is for said religions to seek converts.

Oooops.

The Next-New "SANCUARY" and not New York City & CO.?

S. B. TootsyRoll, what-ever your-name-is;

Interesting!? "... Rests with faith communities ..." Hmmmmm.

If Mexico and some of Central America do turn into adobe thanks to global warming, about the only thing people can do about it is a) cut their birth rate because kids will die first in famine and drought conditions and/or b) mass population migration.

It has been suggested at dieoff.com that the United States can only feed about two thirds (200 million) of its people, at least without the input of petroleum. I am not sure if the United States could absorb a lot of people under very many circumstances.

It is clear it takes four things to sustain agricultural output: water, topsoil, energy (petroleum), and climate. We are poor stewards of fresh water, topsoil, and petroleum: the groundwater and petroleum are going fast, and the topsoil blows and washes away. At present we subsidize 10 calories of petroleum energy for each food calorie.

Climate is the one thing we have least control over. It could change because of anything: a meteor, comet, sunspots, supervolcano, thermohaline ocean currents, limited nuclear war, gamma ray burst, actual existence of a tenth planet in the solar system on collision course.....

But when population is increasing every day, just pray nothing disrupts agricultural output. Hunger is a poor way to die. Illness and war are not very nice either.

I don't like illegal immigration but I never thought about illegal immigration as a matter of life or death for the immigrants until I saw Earth 2100 on ABC about three months ago.

Lucy is the hypothetical baby born in 2009 and her life is told in a series of animations. By 2030 or 2040, she is an EMT, and Mexico is desert because of global warming. Mexicans have fled to the militarized American border for their very survival. There has been a shooting and she has been called to take the dead and wounded away.

Incidentally, Las Vegas is also slated to become desert as well as soon as those aquifers dry up. California can escape that fate by building desalination plants by the ocean. Mexico can't afford them, and Las Vegas is too far inland.

Has it happened already in Mexico? The Fire Next Time was an NBC movie miniseries in 1993 set in about the present day. Mexico (or Texas) was depicted as desert with wars over water.

Is it happening already in Mexico and are we refusing to see?

Look, I wish we could eliminate American unemployment. We came close during the second World War 1941-1945, when immigration was restricted between 1924 and 1965. We were forced to confront sexist prejudices and opened doors to women (Rosie the Riveter), and maybe also to minorities as well, at least temporarily while 14 million men were away in combat. I wish we could be forced to confront prejudices again and hire from our Native American reservations, our inner cities, Appalachia, the Pacific Northwest, every forgotten corner of America.

I wish we could be forced to rely on American labor, American raw materials, American manufacturing, American money (if any is left), American skills, and American ideas.

By the way, American includes lawfully admitted permanent residents and naturalized citizens, yes, even Hispanics.
This is not about ethnic cleansing, as I fear some people really want. Do some people really fear those street signs and that music? I don't. Ricky Martin sounds cool in Spanish. Now MS-13 constitutes international terrorism and should be a Homeland Security/Guantanamo Bay matter. For that matter so should the neo-Nazis.

Are we willing though, to stop illegal immigration even if it becomes a matter of life and death?

If the situation weren't so tragic it would be funny. Illegal immigration comes about because largely Republican business owners demand right to work laws and immigration restrictions which encourage people working in the shadows. If undocumented workers were unionized, they would not be hired. If they could demand market wages and decent working conditions, there would be no demand for them.