Obama: No Miracles on Race

grandsons of Ahmet prophet were tortured for 12 generations to cease His prophecy and ancestry. He had praised the 12 sons of JAcob, and He is from Israel Jacobsons.

Russia shall be protected.

50 millions of Russians had died in II World War. BArack Obama has scheduled a meeting in front of Hitler's Building in Berlin. in Kosova are lyme insects after Anadolu.

of Sirbia, Radovan Karadzic has been captured in a bus after 13 years. special thanks to Federal Reserve One Dollar.

4. Ural Mountains shall be free
5. Ural languages shall be comprehensible

6. America, CEntral Asia, Arabia, Africa had been shot, Pasific Land had collapsed
7. asteroid belt between MArs-Jupiter, the planet shall be remembered.

8. United Kingdom was the Center of Council in Atlanta.
9. flu, warned by Independent UK, fatal for 50 millions, 3G?.

10. Tolstoy, Christ-ropher Plummer

from Avalon,

one single drop of rain, your salty tear became blue ocean

one tiny grain of sand turning in your hand a world in motion

you're out beyond the furthest morning star close enough to hold me in your arms

adonai, i lift up my heart and i cry, my adonai, you are the maker of each moment, father of my hope and freedom, oh, my adonai.

one timid faithful knock resounds upon the rock of ages

one trembling heart and soul becomes a servant bold and courageous

you call across the mountains and the seas, i answer from the deepest part of me

from age to age you reign in majesty and today you're making miracles in me

1. end of slavery
2. constitution of USA
3. end of civil war

Zion JErusalem Agartha Temple, Psalms, TEmple under Egypt Pyramids, Agartha.

miracle is in the story and the magic combination with permission and contribution of King and Queen to the dance, Professor.

Kenya, Portugal, Arabs, Ottomans, British procterate, India, PAkistan, Goodyear, General Motors, Toyota Motors, Coca Cola, PricewaterhouseCoopers, United NAtions, World Trade Towers, Churchill.

Kenya, Desert, Seth, HAthor

Agartha, "may everyone be free and happy", GLADIO, LAdy Gaia, NATO, World WArs, ADONAI.

Barack Obama
Belfast "Béal Feirste
Mouth of the River FArset"

Narnia, C.S.Lewis
Obamania

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Nairobi, Archenland, Nairobi river, "the place of cool waters", largest city in Africa,

Kenya

A poor choice is no choice.
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As with previous articles, Ms. Thistlethwaite has hit the nail on the head. Without sarcasm and with scholarly aptitude, she has given me something to think about. As a Southern Baptist who proudly sported Kennedy bumper stickers and parked in front of my church in 1960, I am still amazed at the negative comments that come from many of my faith tradition regarding Catholics. Personally, I already sense a thawing of relations between blacks and whites in my daily activities. I have always been a friendly person, but I see the optimism in black eyes now as they look me straight in the eye and exchange the plesantries of the day. On a recent visit to Chicago, I was particularly impressed by the willingness of black men and women to assist me when I was lost.

Unfortunately, I have also noticed that the tone of the McCain campaign has gone decidedly negative. I do understand that Republicans have a lot to lose in this election. They may actually be faced with an America that desires that more than the top one percent have opportunities for real achievement as well as financial success. Also, to have an America that is that shining city on a hill, we are going to have to pay to repair our drastically outdated and worn infrastructure.

Obama is the right (black) man for this time in our history. If life does not start showing some improvement during the next four years, I feel that Bush's eight years are the reason.

“Obama isn’t closing the divide on race”, reads the accusing headline.

Obama and his minister have set race relations back decades. My first thought when I saw the Rev. Wright video was, "Well now. So that's what they really think about whitey."

They get what they give.

Come on now Susan, nobody really believed the hype that Obama was:

A - A new kind of politician
B - A "post-racial" candidate
C - A uniter rather than a divider
D - An African-American
E - Special in any way

Nah, you're right, millions of people did believe all that crap. Now they're disappointed, lol. You know my son was sobbing the other night because his big brother kept insisting that there was no Tooth Fairy. I reassured him that there is most certainly a tooth fairy and to prove it she will buy his lost tooth for a dollar, providing he dries his tears, puts it under his pillow and thinks happy thoughts.

The "differing opinions on race" will disappear when the baby boomers die off and leave the rest of us alone. Then if we want to know about racist and "racialist" stuff we can read about it in history books and don't have to hear see that garbage in our newspapers.

Some weeks ago I gave a tour of multicultural Brooklyn, New York to two French Moslem journalists of sorts for the US State Department's International Visitors Program. While showing them some African American areas, one of them asked “Is America ready to elect a Black President?” I confidently replied that America wasn’t ready, but noted emphatically that “America” doesn’t elect the President -- the electorate (a much smaller group) does. For example in 2004 about 60% of eligible voters voted and George W. Bush got half of that or about 30% of eligible voters; only 62 millions votes from a population of about 300 million; about 20% of the total population. So if only a fifth of America wasn’t racist Obama could win. Hope comes in small packages.

Some weeks ago I gave a tour of multicultural Brooklyn, New York to two French Moslem journalists of sorts for the US State Department's International Visitors Program. While showing them some African American areas, one of them asked “Is America ready to elect a Black President?” I confidently replied that America wasn’t ready, but noted emphatically that “America” doesn’t elect the President -- the electorate (a much smaller group) does. For example in 2004 about 60% of eligible voters voted and George W. Bush got half of that or about 30% of eligible voters; only 62 millions votes from a population of about 300 million; about 20% of the total population. So if only a fifth of America wasn’t racist Obama could win. Hope comes in small packages.

To Keith, who wrote:

"As a child growing up on the East Coast, I never understood the contempt shown by so many Jews for so many blacks."

As a Black man who grew up in the late 60s and 70s, I feel obliged to resort to a bit of history. During the Civil Rights era, Jews (who were also targets of racism in the US) contributed heavily to that movement, provided jobs and credit to blacks and supported many black causes. Then along came Black nationalists, Elijah Muhammed's brand of Islam which spewed hatred towards whites, jews, and Christians, and other minor movements. This had the effect of directing hatred towards Jews by blacks, especially in large urban areas. No one that I can remember ever gave Jews the credit they deserve for the massive financial contributions, marching and other support during those times. In many cases The pro-black movements, particularly The Black Muslims, did great harm to post civil rights Black-Jewish relations. It would do well to remember that no group has been as maligned, marginalized, or persecuted throughout world history as the Jewish race (the numbers don't lie), which put them much in common with black Americans since the Industrial Revolution. As a black man who lived the times, it is my opinion that we should change our attitudes toward the Jews in this country, and recognize the great efforts put forth by them to help blacks in dire times. This is not to say that some whites did not to contribute; however, I may address their contributions at another time. This is about responding to your remark about Jews and Blacks.

I'm still wondering how an ordained minister and president of a seminary is entitled to use her office for political purposes (she's also a member of Trinity United Church of Christ). Thistlethwaite supported Obama and trashed Hillary Clinton throughout the Democratic primary, and she continues to use her platform at "On Faith" to campaign for Obama.

Thistlethwaite and Jeremiah Wright are in the same category: two ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ who ignore the constitutional mandate of separation between church and state and use the pulpit to support their candidate who, until recently, was a member of the same church.

I'm still wondering how an ordained minister and president of a seminary is entitled to use her office for political purposes (she's also a member of Trinity United Church of Christ). Thistlethwaite supported Obama and trashed Hillary Clinton throughout the Democratic primary, and she continues to use her platform at "On Faith" to campaign for Obama.

Thistlethwaite and Jeremiah Wright are in the same category: two ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ who ignore the constitutional mandate of separation between church and state and use the pulpit to support their candidate who, until recently, was a member of the same church.

Obama self-annoints himself as a uniter. He claims that uniting the races is in his DNA. He claims to be "post-racial."

Yet he has forged friendships or otherwise affiliated himself with some of the most openly racist and hateful people in the United States. His campaign has directed a spotlight on the extreme degree of black racism in this country. Many of his supporters are virulent and aggressive haters who are using their hatred as a battering ram to demand votes for the "post-racial" candidate.

His one fairly tepid speech on race came about only because his candidacy was under fire due to his long time association with Jeremiah Wright. It was no attempt to "unite" or to invoke post-racialism. Rather it was an attempt to save his imperiled campaign.

That campaign has made us all more aware of how much racial hatred still exists in America. We all knew that a few isolated, illiterate rednecks were racists. But I think we've been stunned to learn how many otherwise intelligent, well-educated blacks are clinging to hatred and contempt. It has now become a mantra that the only reason not to vote for Obama is racism. We've read reports of intimidating and illegal behavior occuring at caucuses. There were threats of rioting if Obama wasn't given the nomination. Clinton supporters switching their votes to McCain rather than Obama are being labeled as bitter old white women. And all of this hectoring is either vigorously supported, or ignored by the media.

Obama's candidacy not only fails to live up to its promise of post-racialism, it serves as a catalyst for an extreme - and entirely self-righteous - form of racism that is stronger and more prevalent than anything America has seen in decades. Obama should be held accountable for his inability to deliver, even moderately, on the vast and sweeping abilities he is laying claim to.

The tone of the NYT aritcle is indicative of a way of thinking among many in America that somehow there must be one African American that will rally the nation to a place of racial equity. It is a simplistic and naive impression that all minorities (not just African Americans) require the services of a deliverer and that White America needs to feel completely comfortable with and African American "leader" to accept and treat the rest of us with civility and fairness. It is this type of thinking that leads every reporter to Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson when looking for "the Black perspective" on almost an issue. I posit that no African American "leader" or any other prominent citizen of a minority population will be able to convince WhiteAmerica that we are just as patriotic, just as hard working etc. I believe that it will take the "leaders" of White Americans to make the greatest contributions in reaching these types of goals.

The NYT article and the New Yorker magazine cover are just 2 more indications of a major part of the chattering classes obvious lack of true understanding of the concerns of minorities or how the press itself is conplicit in perpetuating myth or setting up false conflicts. It is my belief that there were no minorities (especially African Americans) in the discussions when these two obviously ludicrous examples of journalism were being discussed by the publications and until minorities are fairly represented in the newsrooms and editorial boards of the nations "premiere" news outlets we will continue to have this type of drivel and veiled contempt heaped upon a growing segment the population.

Remember Colin Powell, Condoleesa Rice, Tiger Woods, Winfrey Oprah et al.

America is long ready for a biracial President. Sen Obama is half white and has had a white upbringing. Don't forget that.

Senator Obama should be judged on his works past and his policies for his presidency. Don't endow sainthood on a politician and expect him to part the Red Sea. Choose a good leader America can be proud of. Judge him by his work in his first term before deciding to give him a second chance. Simple.

Let pastors do the pastoring. Keep Church and State separate. The Constitution demands it. Politicians would always be tempted to misuse religion as merely one more piece on a chessboard. A presidential campaign is about the race for the most powerful office in the world. It is naive to forget that and bestow a prophet's or messiah's halo on a politician. It is up to the voting public not to give any politician a chance to misuse religion or religious symbols.

The NY Times poll may have wrongly and prematurely placed the onus for healing the racial divide on Obama, but part of the fault for this lies in Obama's attempt to characterize himself and his candidacy as "postracial" (i.e., beyond existing racial divisions). Obama has lost no opportunity to call other people divisive while simultaneously portraying himself as someone who brings people together. The point of the poll: he's not bringing different races any closer together than they already were, and for the foreseeable future, most likely won't.

I so agree with you, Susan Brooks, about the NYTimes article. For the first time that i can recall reading that newspaper, i thought "wow, there's the lede more than halfway through the article." Next i wondered where the editors were when it was time to check out articles destined for page 1! Of course, the main finding was where both black and white voters agreed.

However, i don't agree with the readers posting before me, that it was necessarily a bias or prejudice of the reporters that caused the emphasis to be placed where they did. It seemed more like naive expectation that Obama could make inroads this quickly on age old belief systems and that it is, in fact, his responsibility to do so.

In 1987-88, great damage to races relation was done by Rev. Al Sharpton by groundless accusations of racism to prosecutor Steve Pagones and others in the Tawana Brawley case. Now Rev. Jessie Jackson is doing damage to races relation.
Seems like Reverends are doing the damage.

HILLARY MAY BE ANTICIPATING A DIFFERENT OUTCOME AT THE CONVENTION

The Democratic convention is not over and done with.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-clintons-presidential-campaign.html

My only comment - please do not keep trying to post your comments because there is a slight delay.

Yes, the world must be set right immediately by listening to your wisdom, but we need see it only once to attain enlightenment.

As a Jew growing up in Brooklyn, I never understood the hatred of so many gentile blacks for Jews. You're right the African American gentiles are out for blood. What else is new?

Bravo Professor! Rarely have I read a more insightful series of comments addressing the difficult issues affecting this nation's reluctance to deal with this latest of racial dilemmas. The proiblems the Obama Campaign will encounter in the months leading to his eventual nomination in August, will spell the difference whether this nation is prepared to cope with the reality of his candidacy, or reject it simply because of his ethnicity. I welcome the breath of fresh air your review offers, and only hope they contribute toward a resolution to this national tragedy.

Next headline: "Obama isn't lowering the US divorce rate."

Very insightful editorial! I agree that it is absurd to expect a sea of change in such a short period of time. On the other hand, I am convinced that America's perceptions on race, on the larger front, are beginning to change. At least this is my sincere hope. I also find the comparison to JFK compelling as I have, from the beginning of Obama's presidential bid, associated the young charizmatic senator with the former president. They seem to share the same ability to reach out to the American people and appeal to a large and diverse segment of the population. What I like about Obama (and what I think most liked about JFK) is that he makes me feel like I can believe him, and that I can believe in him. I hope he lives up to my, and his own, expectations.

The fact that Senator Obama is always described as a "Black" candidate, shows how race is still a factor in America. If we must use a label, the correct label is "Half Black - Half White" candidate.

Your article is quite illuminating and right on the money about the unrealistic expectations of some people even the New York Times about Barack Obama's ability with regard to ending racism in America. They seem to think his race will simply operate magically to end racism and if that does not happen then it's his fault. There can be no doubt that America has gone a long way toward righting racial wrongs if Obama's selection as a nominee of a major political party is any evidence. But there is still a long way to go. And without doubt, if Barack were to lose the election it would be terribly disconcerting to many Americans, black and white who can not stand another 4 years of Republican presidency. But the loss would be especially more traumatic to blacks who have necessirily invested in this election so much emotionally to the extent that their hope of a changing America would be set back fatally.

Whaw!! A liberal from Chicago telling me how great the future will be with Obama. That is such a huge surprise...

Once again, Ms. Thistlethwaite rises above the MSM pundits to provide the most grounded, thoughtful, fair and reasonable analysis I've yet read on race and Obama.

Instead of despairing over the hyperbole elsewhere, I must remember just to repair to this, her website.

As a child growing up on the East Coast, I never understood the contempt shown by so many Jews for so many blacks. But you're right, racism is very much alive and well, and the New York Times is competing with the New Yorker for the most racist mainstream media publication in this election year. The Zionists are out for blood.

Thank you. That was exactly what I thought when reading the NYTimes article. He's leading because he's a great candidate and the Republicans have damaged America with flawed policies based on a bankrupt ideology. We need pragmatic solutions not religious adherence to dogmas of politics past. Obama's ability to inspire young citizens to take ownership of their country was enough to get my vote. I just pray that enough of us are ready to elect him and start healing the world rather than placing the world in further jeopardy under McCain.

For United States-based Conservative Christian Talebans Senator Barack Obama has that foam-in-the-mouth methamphetaminian bipolarity in his very existence. His presidency will shatter the myths and channels that makes racial divisions so financially rewarding.. These Terri Schiavo dejects for whom decency has become an alien concept, Obama is at once a "20-Year Rev. Jeremiah Wright Christian acolyte" as well as a Muslim; He is ultra foreign affairs novice who somehow is foreign because his personal affairs had roots in foreign lands; He lacks judgement even when his judgement on Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan have been proven right-to-the-point-of-prophetic; Obama is a flip-flopper even when he had been announcing that "a different type of politics" means that each side must exit their entreched position to find common ground. AS A BLACK MAN IN AMERICA WHAT THE LAST SEVENTEEN MONTHS HAVE TAUGHT ME IS THAT THE PROBLEM OF THIS COUNTRY IS NOT WHITE AMERICANS OR BLACK AMERICANS. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN AMERICA IS NOT RACE BUT THE LAZY, GOSSIPY, SCANDAL-ADDICTED LAZY MAIN STREAM MEDIA THAT WOULD RATHER ECHO A LIE THAN CHALLENGE POLITICAL LEADERS TO RETRACT OR STAND BY THEIR FUTIVE STATEMENTS BASED ON FACTS.

Thank you. That was exactly what I thought when reading the NYTimes article. He's leading because he's a great candidate and the Republicans have damaged America with flawed policies based on a bankrupt ideology. We need pragmatic solutions not religious adherence to dogmas of politics past. Obama's ability to inspire young citizens to take ownership of their country was enough to get my vote. I just pray that enough of us are ready to elect him and start healing the world rather than placing the world in further jeopardy under McCain.

Thank you. That was exactly what I thought when reading the NYTimes article. He's leading because he's a great candidate and the Republicans have damaged America with flawed policies based on a bankrupt ideology. We need pragmatic solutions not religious adherence to to dogmas of politics past. Obamas ability to inspire young citizens to take ownership of their country was enough to get my vote. I just pray that enough of us are ready to elect him and start healing the world rather than placing the world in further jeopardy under McCain.

For United States-based Conservative Christian Talebans Senator Barack Obama has that foam-in-the-mouth methamphetaminian bipolarity. These Terri Schiavo dejects for whom decency has become an alien concept, Obama is at once a "20-Year Rev. Jeremiah Wright Christian acolyte" as well as a Muslim; He is ultra foreign affairs novice who somehow is foreign because his personal affairs had roots in foreign lands; He lacks judgement even when his judgement on Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan have been proven right-to-the-point-of-prophetic; Obama is a flip-flopper even when he had been announcing that "a different type of politics" means that each side must exit their entreched position to find common ground. AS A BLACK MAN IN AMERICA WHAT THE LAST SEVENTEEN MONTHS HAVE TAUGHT ME IS THAT THE PROBLEM OF THIS COUNTRY IS NOT WHITE AMERICANS OR BLACK AMERICANS. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN AMERICA IS NOT RACE BUT THE LAZY, GOSSIPY, SCANDAL-ADDICTED LAZY MAIN STREAM MEDIA THAT WOULD RATHER ECHO A LIE THAN CHALLENGE POLITICAL LEADERS TO RETRACT OR STAND BY THEIR FUTIVE STATEMENTS BASED ON FACTS.

For United States-based Conservative Christian Talebans Senator Barack Obama has that foam-in-the-mouth methamphetaminian bipolarity. These Terri Schiavo dejects for whom decency has become an alien concept, Obama is at once a "20-Year Rev. Jeremiah Wright Christian acolyte" as well as a Muslim; He is ultra foreign affairs novice who somehow is foreign because his personal affairs had roots in foreign lands; He lacks judgement even when his judgement on Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan have been proven right-to-the-point-of-prophetic; Obama is a flip-flopper even when he had been announcing that "a different type of politics" means that each side must exit their entreched position to find common ground. AS A BLACK MAN IN AMERICA WHAT THE LAST SEVENTEEN MONTHS HAVE TAUGHT ME IS THAT THE PROBLEM OF THIS COUNTRY IS NOT WHITE AMERICANS OR BLACK AMERICANS. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN AMERICA IS NOT RACE BUT THE LAZY, GOSSIPY, SCANDAL-ADDICTED LAZY MAIN STREAM MEDIA THAT WOULD RATHER ECHO A LIE THAN CHALLENGE POLITICAL LEADERS TO RETRACT OR STAND BY THEIR FUTIVE STATEMENTS BASED ON FACTS.

Glad to hear Susan Brooks's opinion because I had the same argument with my friend at the dinner table last night. The New York Times article was just absurd. Yet, presumptive President Obama, I hope, will be truly instrumental for reconciling ugly racial divide in this country and taking it to a new era of mutual forgiveness, love and appreciation.

things will never change or at least not in my lifetime

Unfortunately, regardless of how the election turns out, many will view the election based on race, not on what the men say or what they stand for.

I believe that most white voters who vote for Obama will do so, for his ability to encourage and speak a message that means different things to each listener - and are far different than what he really proposes to do. unfortunately, most won't take the time to find out what he really means or plans to do. The plans have only barely been revealed - most have no substance - yet.

Unfortunately, most voters don't vote after looking at all the facts. Most voters don't pay close attention until, just before the election and then vote on rumors or who's in their party, what they've heard, not the facts.

Many voters don't have a decent education, many can't really read. Many are blue or no collar, medium or low-income - with a bunch that also don't pay taxes, but can vote because of their age and where they live.

This election is partly counting on that, and working with simple branding, that looks good, feels good - but has no real structure to support it. Yes, with either candidate we'll get change. Hopefully, we'll get the change we want & need, not simply change for the promise of, or sake of, change.

Race relations were progressing in this country until Blacks, themselves, in their desire for glory took the stage. The racist Reverend White and the low-life Jessie Jackson have called whites' attention to the Black hatred that still exists against them.

I don't think Wright or Jackson want Obama to win.
They're jealous of his youth and the spotlight he has taken from them.

Damning America, castration and the n-word do nothing to impress me with Black "Reverends" or those who jump up and down and cheer them on Sunday.

It is interesting but this is a huge move in the right direction and I think everybody will acknowledge that. Right now, it is less about race and ethnicity than who is the better candidate and I believe that Obama is the leader we should elect. Please visit WHYOBAMA08.ORG and encourage us and support him!

Anyone, black or otherwise, who looks at Obama and says, "That's a black man," is a racist. I don't really care what context. If you are a US citizen, you should be educated enough to know that race is irrelevant.