Glenn Beck's generic God

Beck's god is Lucifer. You can tell because he LIES constantly.

First of all, Mormonism is the most pathetic excuse for a religion. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can tell that it is a load of bull. Also, anyone who has read the Old/New Testaments know that the Book of Mormon can not, and should not exist. The days of prophets are over and yet this Joseph Smith man comes in and rewrites one of the oldest religions just to benefit himself.

Also, why are all the ridiculous, uneducated Republicans, who call themselves followers of Beck, offended when people compare him to the Taliban. Anyone who watches two seconds of his program with hear him rant without end about how Obama is like Hitler. So get your panties out of a bunch and get over it. He can dish it out but can't take it.

Glenn Beck is a pathetic excuse for a man who is just a puppet for Fox News. Him and Rush are just in it for the big pay checks. Neither man knows his facts and constantly make false accusations of the left in order to induce panic and grab attention of the listeners. Not to mention that Fox doesn't even label Beck's show as a news show... He is merely a program of opinions...

John Hagee? Isn't he the one that believes that Adolf Hitler was a distant descendant of Esau? Black-robed regiment indeed- right behind the brown shirts!

Glenn Beck's "Generic God" is the same "God" that most in Christendoom worship which is the God of this World who by the way has a name and it's not Big "G" God it's Satan or Lucifer. Funny you work for the Washington Post and you aren't intelligent enough to discern that God (whether spelled with a capital letter or not) is a title and not a name. The heavenly father's name is Yahweh and the savior's true and only name is Yahshua (meaning "Yahweh the savior" or "Yahweh is salvation"). He truly was Yahweh manifested in the flesh for the purpose of the redemption of mankind. Now Glen Beck has had a spiritual transformation - he does not know himself what has happened to him. Yes, he may have ONCE been blind but he now sees - which is the same journey of the Apostle Paul. Like Paul he has been known to persecute Yahweh's true chosen people which are the Black People of the United States read Deuteronomy 28th Chapter - no other group of people fit that description. Now for those that think they believe in a big "G" God - they will now be tested to see if they believe the scriptures. Everyone can recognize a sinner but can we recognize when one has been translated in their heart and mind. I knew what was happening to Glen Beck before he did. Many will doubt the transformation but Yahshua cares nothing about what we think - our thoughts are not Yahweh's thoughts and neither our ways, Yahweh's ways and thankfully we have a heavenly Father that does not think like a carnal-minded man. We are his creation and when he wants to have his way with us -he will. So ready or not Yahshua (via the holy spirit) will begin showing up in a lot of folks that noone expected him to - it would be best that we each pray for true spiritual discernment before we pass judgment on anyone and make the same mistake when he showed up 2,000 years ago and crucify him afresh. HalleluYah!

I am a pragmatic independent and any rational person with sufficient education is wary of Glenn Beck. That said, the first posted has a point -- where is the transcript of Beck's speech so we can make our own judgment? Where is the list of who spoke other than Beck and Palin? Thanks.

Glenn Beck's generic God

"The story of America is the story of human kind. Five thousand years ago...God's chosen people were led out of bondage...Man first began to recognize God and God's law. The chosen people listened to the Lord. At the same time those things were happening, on this side on this land another group of people were gathered here. And they too were listening to God," said Beck.

As he spoke, two Native Americans appeared behind him to stand next to a rabbi. They were followed by a white preacher.

Facing these three individuals with arms outreached, Beck said, "God's chosen people, the Native Americans and the pilgrims."

Beck omitted all of God's "chosen people". Black Africans were here before the Pilgrims. So, there should have been one black American with arms outreached. Would have made it a bit more inclusive since they were chosen by God wittingly or unwittingly to be in this new land. So if the premise is true, then God chose blacks also. I guess Beck either didn't know that, simply forgot, or it was by intent and design.

A cursory scan of the comments posted reveal a common trait of the left - baseless, vitriolic, ad hominem attacks devoid of any factual foundation whatsoever. Of course facts and informed arguments are trivial nuisances to the liberal 'progressive' mentality of today. Just character attacks selected from the ala carte menu of pejoratives including Hitler, McCarthy, Racist, Bigot, etc. These apparently are worthy substitutes for the left as opposed to cogent and rational thought processes. Beck is denounced as being a liar, a demagogue and an evangelist of hate - but none of his accusers can inform their indictments with anything other than malignant slogans. The majority of the posters reveal not only the shallowest of intellects, but demonstrate a first grade level of literacy as well. Collectively nothing more than a bunch of parrots in a cage repeating sound bites from the idiots they venerate.

GordonShumway1 appears to promote an eclectic revision of Christianity. At least, he is full of criticism of the predominant sects of that faith as "tainted by paganism".

Gordon, the whole "christ" notion (even the word is from Greek), a god creating mankind from dirt and divine self-sacrifice (Prometheus), virgin birth... are all common elements derived from Hellenic paganism. The great flood stories in the Bible are likely adaptations of Babylonian pagan myths (Gilgamesh, etc)... nearly every biblical story has a pagan predecessor.

There IS no One True Religion. They are all attempts on the part of man to deal with his own world, to intercede with natural forces he could not understand. And they all contain some element of fraud and deception, as all have been exploited by the priests/mullahs/shamans to seek and maintain status, wealth or power... some were even contrived for that very purpose.

It's interesting to read so much hateful and racist speech coming from the democrats and the socialists who claim (wrongfully) that the right and the tea party are hateful and racist. Your outlook is tainted by what YOU are in your heart. Instead of constantly trying to tear down and belittle others, how about trying to do something positive to change things, other than simply complaining,pointing a finger and shouting hate all the time.

Beck is out doing something he believes he is right and has gained a great following of like minded folks. What are you doing other than taking cheap pot shots at Beck. How many folowers do you have? Well, there ya' go.

Nobody wants to listen to your complaining butt. Get a job.

Beck is a talk show host with distinct opinions. Folks can choose to listen, or not listen to him. For the same preachers who are questioning his religion, where is their voice on: 1) the demise of public education; 2) the high unemployment rate — and what they are doing about it; 3) high teenage pregnancy rate — and what they are doing about it; 4) the increasing homeless numbers; and a biggie — 5) the decline of morals throughout the US; 6)the decline of those attending church in the USA????

Good, bad, or indifferent, Beck is filling a void that has been created by the pseudo leaders in this Country. He is -- as a minimum -- sharing some fact that folks should have learned in school and church, BUT DIDN'T! WHY?

Sounds like we have some preachers with a lot of time on their hands!

Beck’s “generic God” is actually no further from Biblical truth than are the majority of other flavors of “evangelical Christianity”, especially including that of John Hagee, Richard Land, etc., who have mindlessly accepted the Roman Catholic Church’s paganized God/man “Jesus Christ” as their bogus Savior, precisely as is prophesied in the Hebrew Scriptures and in the New Testament.
His given name was Yeshuah of Nazareth. “Yeshuah” means “salvation” or “deliverance” in Hebrew. “Jesus” means nothing in any language. “Jesus Christ” is nothing but an Anglicized version of the alias assigned to him by his executioners, the Romans.
Whether left, right or center, Jew, Christian, Muslim, or “other”, it is the carnal nature of mankind to arrange ourselves into pyramidal organizations. This recent Beck phenomenon is merely the first visible manifestation of an antithesis to the NWO push for hegemony. It will succeed in nothing but radicalizing the political extremes of this society, and setting the stage for the prophesied cataclysm called in the Bible “the Tribulation”, “the time of Jacob’s trouble”, or “Daniel’s 70th week”, which would seem to be imminent.
But my Lord Yeshuah described what is our only proper “arrangement” before his Father: “I am the vine and you are the branches”. Beware of the “solutions” of men.
FYI, Yeshuah of Nazareth explicitly DENIED that he was God (John 17:3), as did the Apostle Paul (1 Cor. 8:6; Eph. 4:6; 1 Tim. 2:5), and implicitly, ALL of his other Hebrew disciples. In fact, if he had been God (capital G) there would have been no reason for his existence, since he could not have died for our sins, and not one human being would have any hope of eternal life in the absence of such physical human death, according to ALL of Scripture.
The Truth seeker’s only logical goal in the face of all this is to hack our way free of the entangling deceptions of pagan philosophy that have ensnared hundreds of millions of Christians, Jews, Muslims, and “other” alike over the past 2,000 years, and to rediscover that “original faith which was once and for all given to the saints” - Jude 3.
Details on request. Gordon P. Shumway --- ru12@gmx.com

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”
-Sinclair Lewis

Of course Sinclair was wrong. It will be the same Darwinian anti-Christs and Jew haters that Hitler's National Socialists were. And like before, will be aided by Islamists.

"Beck deftly avoids the myriad warnings of our founders about protecting government from the grasp of religion."
I would like to see what your talking about, as everything I've seen has been about protecting religion from government.

All of a sudden this racists sick jerk found God?
Using every false method at his disposal, MLK, Native Americans, etc..This sick charlatan makes Elmer Gantry look downright benign.
Are there that many racists and diminished capacity citizens out there???
There were more people of color on the stage than in the audience.
The one constant in his message is LACK OF TRUTH AND HONESTY.

I can not believe the comments on this page. Let me address some of them.

TO: DRJILLS1 - comparing Glen Beck to the Taliban
and
RCBAKEWELL - "Pitty the poor Afganis who face Taliban fundamentalists authors. But they are not alone. We face Beck and his parroting minions."
and
ANGRIESTDOGINTHEWORLD1 - " The cruelty of war as (did you mean is??) a super power stomping on the heart of what I view as even more religious people ( 5 times a day, month of fasting )"
...what are you people thinking!!!!! Comparing Beck or any one of these people to the Taliban is just absurd. When have any of these people cut off someones head, murdered anyone, held down a child while someone crushed it with a car, beat maimed or murdered women and children? Are you really that blind? Is this your definition of peace?

ALSO, STAN8509 " promoting fear of ethnic groups" Is that all you can come up with? Which ethnic group are you referring to? I herd no one promoting fear of any ethnic group. Not Beck, or the Black preachers that spoke, or the American Indians that were there. Who are you talking about here? I must be missing that part.

It seams that anyone who disagrees with Obama and his administration is called a Bigot or a racist. Is he not half white? Is it not the right of an American to disagree with someones beliefs or policies without being a racist?

It seams to me that the only racists are the ones condemning the view points of the Christians. Since when did the atheists and the "Non Christians" have more rights in this country then the Christians? I am so sick of being persecuted for my religious beliefs. This country was founded on the principal of freedom of religion, and the only religion that is not free to express them selves is Christian. They do not allow Christians to have prayer groups in schools now, but the Muslims that go to my children's school are allowed to have their prayers. What is happening to this country and the people in it. You people really scare me! God Bless the people who are not afraid to stand up for Christian rights.

Beck is indeed a false prophet and those that follow him are equivalent to the rats that followed the "PIED PIPER"! But for Faux News, there would be no Beck,period! And Faux News is but a well oiled propaganda machine,financed primarily by two foreigners, Murdock and the Saudi Arabian. Who by the way is muslim; which also by the way, is from the land of most of the 911 attackers. And least we forget, Osama Bin Laden also is a Saudi. But at the behest of Faux News, there is a big uproar about the so-called Mosque near GROUND ZERO? What is wrong with this picture? It's been said before,"you can fool some of the people all of the time- BUT......."! Wake up people! In this case, the Shepherds are wolves, and they see you literally as sheep, or as "bp" referenced working folk, LITTLE PEOPLE; to be used and manipulated as the Fat Cats see fit!!!

I thought his rally was well needed. It was true- Americans have strayed from the Lord. In the bible it states "no work-no food" and it mentions giving money to a few- the ones rewarded were the ones that invested.. God was a Republican! Facts are facts- read your Bible! Politicians would better themselves if they followed suite!

The Declaration of Independence in pertinent part: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. "

Glenn Beck is right on.

Actually, "a God who appears in nature and from which one draws universal truths" is precisely what our nation's founders believed in. Consider the references to God in the Declaration of Independence. There are four: "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God", man's "Creator", "the Supreme Judge of the World", and "divine Providence". All can be considered "generic" in the sense that they avoid referring to specific scriptures or what might be considered sectarian doctrines. But they seem to reflect considerable thought about the nature of God's role in the affairs of men.
Beck, on the other hand, seems to give little thought to such, instead talking about "faith" and "honor" in ways that don't really say anything specific. If that is what Parham means in complaining about the "generic" nature of Beck's invocation of God, then he is correct. But the problem is not the lack of reference to specific scriptures or doctrines, instead it is the apparent lack of any but the most superficial kind of thinking.

Glenn Beck is a nasty ignorant racist egotist. A complete tool. A false prophet and a gatekeeper of truth and dissent for a lot of people who might actually be able to improve things, if they had not been waylaid by this phony. I am not surprised anymore that so many Americans in particular don't see that someone as shallow and phony as Beck is a fraud, but if you don't see that he is a stupid little tosser, I don't see much point in trying to tell you why either. The level of stupid is beyond bothering with in some forums.

You sir, are exactly the kind of person that Beck is trying to warn people about and I suspect that's what really bothers you. I find it interesting that you espouse a point of view that Beck is wrong in his interpretation of scripture yet you offer no evidence or site no Biblical reference. It is people like you who pervert gospel to push your own social and political agenda. Proof of that can be seen in the fact that you feel the need to point out the mostly white crowd at Beck's rally. If I ever heard that type of divisive language being said in my own church, I would leave and found another congregation.

You are right about one thing however, and that is that God does call for protection for the poor in the form of community. And if you had listened to Beck's message rather your own deluded opinion, you would have understood that was the heart of what "Restoring Honor" was about. Faith, Hope and Charity. Helping others because we have a common bond, a commandment from and commitment to God, as we are all children of God... not because the government takes it from us to give to the poor. That's not charity. And how do you measure the merit of a man when his so-called good deeds are forced upon him? That is why God bestowed us with free will. So that we could choose to follow him and be charitable to our community. And anyone who tries to pervert the gospel in the manner that you are in order to further a political agenda, is quite evil.

Beck clearly has a different historical perspective than the average person today. There seems to be two strong opposing viewpoints to his message: on the one side, some see him promoting an early American "God fearing" attitude toward life, and say that's OK; on the other side, there are those who's "religion-fearing" attitude is what drives them, and they naturally fear his message. In any case, the U.S. looked a lot different to our Founders, many of whom did in fact use Moses, and other religious symbols, for ideas about democracy and government. Note, for example:

http://www.moses-in-history.com

Rev. Parham: Social Justice is a code word for Redistribution of Wealth.

The Left I see are now attributing it to Jesus.

However, this is what Jesus said:

In the parable of the talents (Matthew 25:24-30) He condemned the failure to productively use one’s God-given talents—whether many or few, exceptional or ordinary—by having a lord take money from the one who had the least and give it to him who had the most, thereby increasing economic inequality.

The Lord’s mission was to redeem us from sin, not to redistribute our property or impose an economic equality on us. In fact, the Almighty explicitly declined to undermine property rights or preach economic equality when he told the man who wanted Jesus to tell his brother to share an inheritance with him, “Man, who made me a judge or divider over you?” (Luke 12:14).

God gives us the talent, freedom and unalienable rights to have the opportunity to achieve but he does not hand it to us. It must be earned.

Charity to help others who have misfortunes should be given from ones heart not demanded by a government entity.

Communities since the inception of our country have pitched in to help one another without the "government demanding us to do so."

Don't cloak the redistribution of wealth in Jesus' name. God judges us as individuals to use our talents and be charitable of our own free will.

And America has always had the most charitable of people witnessed by 9/11 when donations kept pouring in to help those who were in need. Same with Katrina when people were donating food, water, clothing, money and their time.

And to think that the Government with all the boondoggles would be redistributing the nation's wealth. It would be more like squandering the nation's wealth. There have millions of dollars unaccountable from the Stimulus and TARP funds and I'm supposed to trust them to redistribute the wealth? I think not.

Why attack the man? Because they are scared to death of him. If he is all that they say he is, why bother with him? Just enter glenn beck on the news page of google and tons of blogs come up from the looney lefties. A lot of them really are ignorant as to what Beck is all about, they just parrot what other people say. The ones that do know are scared to death! They cannot refute anything so they just attack. They are like the high school miscreants who make fun of the good kids while the good kids grow up to be successful and they just become losers themselves.

Thank you sdavis for doing your homework. Glenn Beck is an idiot. He like Limbaugh cannot say any thing much. He is trying to perfect his craft of stroking the bigots and stoking their fires so he can make the ultra bucks. Is this his America? You betcha!

Glenn Beck is one of the most evil men to ever rise to prominence in white America. Wrapping himself in the bible and the flag, Glenn Beck pretends to know God's will and like every demon preacher he is willing to provide his interpretation of God's will to anyone who will listen. And, it's obvious that those who listen are people incapable of thinking for themselves. For certainly if they were able to engage in rational thought, they would immediately reject the nonsense Glenn Beck is spewing from his mouth just like the other matter that spews from the other orifice in his body. The fact of the matter is one is just as worthless as the other, and America better wake up before these people gain real power because at that point violence will become the only alternative left to fight the Glenn Beck's of the world.

Glenn Beck is one of the most evil men to ever rise to prominence in white America. Wrapping himself in the bible and the flag, Glenn Beck pretends to know God's will and like every demon preacher he is willing to provide his interpretation of God's will to anyone who will listen. And, it's obvious that those who listen are people incapable of thinking for themselves. For certainly if they were able to engage in rational thought, they would immediately reject the nonsense Glenn Beck is spewing from his mouth just like the other matter that spews from the other orifice in his body. The fact of the matter is one is just as worthless as the other, and America better wake up before these people gain real power because at that point violence will become the only alternative left to fight the Glenn Beck's of the world.

Robert - Thanks for a nice and insightful piece.

This author misses the point that Beck is making. Perhaps some of the viewer's observations are correct, perhaps the author is another member of liberation theology. Many people try to undermine the concept of God because it is necessary in order to destroy the American way of life.

"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

Robert Parham reveals what he is by his reference to "social justice." Parham may call himself a Baptist, but his true theology is Marxism. His thinly disguised criticism of Beck's generic God is not a plea to observe biblical purity, rather it is a secular "new age" argument for extending socialism to religion. Parham is quite obviously a liberal proponent of biblical truth just so long as it can be advanced to enhance materialistic social engineering. His God is much worse than generic, instead it is "ethics" viewed independently of any particular denomination or theology. Parham is a type of post modern theologist without a whit of biblical conviction. Instead, he uses his belief system to decry nationalism and any urge to return to the literal absolutism of the common people of the 18th and 19th centuries. His kind prefers relativistic morality based on setting and circumstances. His real criticism of Beck is hidden in the fear that people might return to an absolute standard of right and wrong. Parham sees more merit in a watered down version of fable and parable supported ethics based on vague biblical references. He doesn't like any identification with that "old time religion." He is far too sophisticated and suave for all that nonsense. To see God in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution is very threatening to a materialistic Marxist. After all, religion is the opium of the masses, which is just another way of saying it is feel-good medicine for the ignorant. Parham would no doubt snicker in secret at those who actually believe the Bible.

One commenter asked, Why attack a man...." Well, that's because that's what too many Protestant ministers do. They even attack each other's particular sect/denomination. There's an old saying something like "Get two Baptists preacher's together and you have a schism". Maybe that's not word perfect, but you get the idea. Not only are there so many Protestant sects/denominations, but just the Baptists alone have a lot. Nit picking, back biting, hate mongering, despicable behavior has always been part of the Protestant movement ever since they split off the Catholics and John Calvin burned Miguel Servet (Michael Servetus) at the stake for for his doctrinal heresies, and Protestant colonist, under direction of their ministers, murdered so-called witches---and so the witch hunt continues.

God bless Glenn Beck. Maybe some intelligent Rabbi, priest, or minister will write about what the message really was.

I cannot believe the post of stanxxxx, comparing Beck to Hitler. I don't know if it's crossed any of your minds, but Obama, his administration and the ridiculous excuse for congress is definitely beginning to remind me of Nazi Germany. We are on the verge of a class warfare as Germany was, and you saw what happened when the Germans "redistributed the wealth".

I am sickened by the terrible rhetoric from both the author as well as many of those that commented. Why attack a man when all he has done up to today is inform of where the country started, from both black and white leaders and how far we have drifted. I have come to realize the attacks are only because liberals want to lessen the negatives that they have created and want to deny. For those that aren't intelligent enough to think on your own, this event pulled together all religions so be careful when you bash it, since someone you know or love may believe and you bash them as well. I wish nothing but the best for you. God Bless America which even includes you closed minded liberals.

Take this man very seriously. Beck is a master of disinformation, particularly when addressing those whom he knows and knows that he knows have no book learnin' worth much. A liar of this caliber wants to abolish the Republic and freedom not only of thought, but to think! Get rid of either and the other is doomed. To this date, I don't find an adequate counter offensive, just a titter and quotes, obviously from Jefferson. But that won't make a dent in his gig. It's the gig we have to attack, and as yet, we don't know how. Here we have the American version of the Taliban in our midst, and we can't neutralize them. But one way, I don't know if it's effective, but one way is to establish standards of fact and opinion, decorum and freedom of expression, and stick by them. In fact, I think any standard at all will offend the likes of Glen Beck. For him, religion is license, and freedom is chaos. Perhaps we can convince others (not him) that he's wrong.

The recent Beck/Palin/God rally in DC should strike fear in the hearts of anyone who recalls other circumstances where a charismatic numbskull was able to whip up an audience with lies and hate tinged with religion and nationalism. Let's see....somewhere in Europe. Let's not forget that Adolf Hitler was ELECTED by the German people, fueled by hatred/fear of a particular ethnic group. Not saying that Beck is another Hitler, but it seems like he is mindlessly (???) laying the foundation.

Beck and his followers are extreme and extremely scary, but I have to commend him on his theatrics it's obvious there's lots of money backing the new conservative Messiah!

Why would anyone cover that event as though it was a real event. All he was missing was a big tent and some snake oil.

It was bought and paid for by a number of different people with money but especially with the FOX network behind it. It was a commercial for the already rich Beck, Palin and their sponsors and if you're not smart enough to see through his theatrics then you're as looney as Beck himself.

Beck is more crazy like a fox (pun intended) and laughs all the way to the bank and you all know it.

He reminds me of Senator McCarthy except with a much larger money machine behind him and far more theatrical! This could be made into a broadway show.

Good_angel, no one is doubting most of the founding fathers were Christians of one kind or another.
It is the claim that ALL of the founding fathers were good conservative Christians which is so easily disproven in the historical record.
Few of the founding fathers were as fiery as Patrick Henry in his rhetoric, but rather all recognized the need to build a society where all religions could thrive, and that the government must not favor one religion over another.

(heck,up to that point catholics & protestants got along about as well as today's Muslim Shiites & Sunni's. There's just nothing new under the sun....)

The argument that Thomas Jefferson was anti religious couldn't be more false, he was an Anglican. While in office he attended the Anglican Church regularly, he frequently quoted the bible in his notes and private letters, He passed pro-Christian legislation and dated official documents "in the year of our Lord, Jesus Christ". His views about separation of church and state, in my view, are blurry. He was explicitly christian during his years in public office.. but decreasingly so after his years in office, eventually questioning Christ as a deity.

Thomas Jefferson's lack of faith in the traditional Christian God is well documented. He certainly may have had faith in a 'high-power', but it was certainly not the Jesus preached in conservative churches. (He even cut & pasted together a version of the New Testament which he considered more authentic--without the miracles)

To those that believe Christianity was not our founding belief, there are dozens of quotes from the people that won our freedom. Here is one from Patrick Henry:

"It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions but on the gospel of Jesus Christ." - Patrick Henry

There is nothing obscure about that statement. As a man that lived at the time of the founding of this country and fought bravely for our freedom, he states clearly how and by whom our country was founded.

And even more:

The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

John Hagee, a man who preaches Christ crucified was at this rally? a rally whose theme fall very short of the biblical revelation of God and our salvation through Jesus. America, your nation's preachers have failed you. You are being sold a bridge to no-where. Don't believe me? read your bible!

Thomas Jefferson quotes and dates of the quotes.

Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.

-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

What is it men cannot be made to believe!

-Thomas Jefferson to Richard Henry Lee, April 22, 1786. (on the British regarding America, but quoted here for its universal appeal.)

Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.

-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom

I concur with you strictly in your opinion of the comparative merits of atheism and demonism, and really see nothing but the latter in the being worshipped by many who think themselves Christians.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Richard Price, Jan. 8, 1789 (Richard Price had written to TJ on Oct. 26. about the harm done by religion and wrote "Would not Society be better without Such religions? Is Atheism less pernicious than Demonism?")

I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Hopkinson, March 13, 1789

Mr. Beck and Ms. Palin did us all yet another favor on the 28th: They told us what they think. That, of course, opens up their logic and beliefs to scrutiny where they inevitably fall apart.

Mormonism was founded by, I am sorry to have to say it, another con-man: Joseph Smith. Simply indulge yourself with a 15-minute due-diligence using Google to read up on just how farcical this religion is. Now reflect on how absurd it is to have a recovering alcoholic Mormon TV show host channel God and tell us all what we need to do to restore our honor as a nation.

"It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks, claiming to be priests of Jesus."

- Thomas Jefferson

As we all know, there's one born every minute.

It is not about Beck's God. It is about Beck still in the recovery process from alcohol and drugs. Beck is now in the 13 step process of making himself into a God - a recurring theme when man learned to expand his greed through manipulating his fellow man via a fearsome God and ignorance of people. Some call these people religious men but really they are middle men profiteers. You find these people all over the place in times of war, financial down turns - wherever they can turn a profit via religion amalgamated with fear. There slogan is always the same - "We are losing our freedom." "We must return our honor." (where these profiteers) during the Bush-Chaney years) And, people like to believe all their fictitious crap. It is said if you repeat the same old thing over and over again, people believe the fiction is the truth. The next step, after the aging process takes hold on Beck, he will be in the 14 step program of building bronze statues of himself so no one will not forget Glen Beck when he returns to his carbon base and is not resurrected.

Beck is a false ' prophet ' blending piety, nationalism and veiled corporatism into a brew of one size fits all neo - fascism.
Pity the poor Afghanis who face Taliban fundamentalist authoritarians. But they are not alone. We face Beck and his parroting minions.

Beck's rally was for the restoring of integrity and honor back to government service. Beck's religion was only brought up since people were questioning Obama's . Obama has never exhibited Christian values. He lied about bills, hid the bills, gave fraudulent numbers on bills, double talked, bribed for votes, and used every trick in the book to pass bills no one wanted.
God used a mormon to bring this country together that day to say we need to get politicians to answer to the people they serve and not think of themselves as some elite ruling class so much better than anyone else. God used Paul who used to persecute and kill Christians and became the most faithful of servants. God can use the most unworthy and change them for good.
But Beck is but one man. The movement is so much more. This is far greater than that. Never in my life have I witnesses people this upset with the radical agenda of Obama. In my little sphere of influence, I am seeing an outrage over the health care take over and the lousy economy. People are past steamed. They have just had enough. My die hard Democrat sister in law just became a Republican. I would compare that to this granny scaling Mt. Everest without oxygen.

Belief in God that grants us our rights and liberties and an organized religion are not the same thing. Baptist or otherwise!

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”

-Sinclair Lewis

Beck deftly avoids the myriad warnings of our founders about protecting government from the grasp of religion. This nationalist phenomenon is a persistent scourge of American politics. It's nothing new. Neither is the vulnerability of so many to fall for such stupidity.

minima wrote:The term "judeo-christian" wasn't around when Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence (and he never uses the word God in that document). What you describe is a REVISION of history.

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Apparently minima is as uneducated as anti-Christian. Thomas Jefferson signed hundreds of documents using "In Christ's Name" above his signature. Here are three different places in the Declaration of Independence referring to God:

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights

And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence

glenn beck is a wet brain.

The GOP doesn't have a recognized leader because then the nation might ask them exactly what they intend to do about the mess eight years of the last GOP reign did to this poor country. I hear endless criticism, complaints, and "no's" from the Republican Party, but not one idea out there to tell America what are their plans? Haven't heard one yet. How will they give us jobs? Solve the health care problem for millions of Americans, protect social security and medicare (not privatize, personalize or "phase it out"?

Glen Beck strikes me as a modern-day Josef Goebbels. He ought to wear more brown and black shirts, but that would make the comparison too easy.

Is anyone's GOD better than another? GOD is just an IDEA crafted by morons. These morons come from all religions and each claim to know all about GOD(which is an idea, not a fact). I can PROVE GOD does NOT exist. If I punch you in the face, it will hurt and GOD will NOT stop it from happening. Believe what you will. Pain, Suffering and Death are the REALITY. GOD is NOT!

Someone actually listened to Beck's speech? Amazing! Beck worships himself. He is his own god.

Sounds more like a Nuremberg Rally than a prayer meeting. They'll ultimately go too far--but so did Hitler--and look what it took to stop him.

Living in Southern California, the home of the "Religion as Theater" practices of places like the Crystal Cathedral, I recognize Beck's Disney Revival. Come on! Who doesn't love Jesus, and Donald Duck?? And American history, as told by Golden Books?

Hold your rallies, and have a good time. There is no reason to exclude these good folks from the national conversation. We may, however, need to expand the national curriculum, with some remedial courses.

that is where he loses me... the cruelty of war as a Superpower stomping on the heart of what I view as even more religious people (5 times a day, month of fasting).

The founders specifically tried to protect freedom of religion. Christianity is the safe haven for all religions as it teaches and embodies tolerance and charity.

Mr All-ham enters into his parsing of all things Beck with a corrupt heart. I don't care what Beck or Mr All-ham preaches, if it doesn't line up with Jesus' Gospel then it's wrong.

Good Angel -- do you know why Maryland got its name? What about Pennsylvania? And what did the Puritans think about church and state? The term "judeo-christian" wasn't around when Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence (and he never uses the word God in that document). What you describe is a REVISION of history.

The reason the Republican Party is a joke is people like Glenn Beck & Sarah Palin .... It's hard to believe people actually believe these idiots. They've both become wealthy by bashing anyone that draws attention to themselves. All you Republican morons keep paying for their books & mailing them contributions, you're keeping the Democrats in power. Oh BTW, who's the leader of the dysfunctional Republican Party, do you boys have a leader ?

Facts?? We're talking about the faith-based reality crowd here. I believe therefore, it's true. Facts are things that liberal scientific secularists use to confuse people who believe in The Bible. Facts??

Just what we need... another God-driven zealot telling us how to live and what to believe. Kinda reminds me of some other nutcases in the Middle East.. the Taliban-something?

Another anti-conservative, anti-Beck, anti-TEA Party, anti-Palin diatribe by a loser leftist. As for the comment by DH1953 that the Founding Fathers tried to establish a permanent separation of church and state, that is totally false. The Founding Fathers only prohibited Congress from establishing a religion. There is no document created during the founding of this country that requires separation of church and state. Only some rulings from liberal judges trying to write laws by decrees even came up with that idea. God was a solid part of the founding of American and the papers created by our founders. This country was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs. Not Islamic, Hindu, or any other religion.

The Beck bashing at WaPo continues in the aftermath of the triumphant rally on the National Mall. Notice anything missing in WaPo's coverage of the rally.... Something pretty obvious? How about: NOTHING OF THE ACTUAL RALLY WAS COVERED BY WAPO and other main stream media. How about a full list of events and agenda? How about notable speakers and attendees? How about a transcript of the wonderful speeches and statements? Even the left wingers here MUST be wondering what is going on here--the silence is deafening, forgive the cliche. All you hear is that the rally was "pretty big but much less than the MM March" or whatever, that Palin spoke (so it must have been just about bad right wing politics), that Alveda King spoke (but she's the "black sheep" of the King clan, after all), and on and on. Sickening. Come on left wingers, this phony reporting must also rub you wrong; it's ok to say so.

If you want to see the America that Beck is urging to take back the country by embracing christianity, you need only read his followers’ comments on this site http://wp.me/pNmlT-mI which is critical of Beck. They are completely blind to facts presented to them if they are contrary to their beliefs. It is scary to see the hold he has over them despite him offering so little substance or truth. Worse, many are Tea Partiers who are supposed to worship the Constitution, yet they have no problem with Beck preaching religion as a prerequisite for governing while the Founding Fathers tried to establish a permanent separation of church and state.