Women as Leaders Anywhere a Challenge to Partiarchy Everywhere
One of the most frequent challenges I get from young Muslim women feminists is that with so many dire problems facing Muslim women today, the desire for female imams seems like a minor issue. My response to them is that women's leadership in the pulpit cuts away at all the patriarchal assumptions that underlie differential treatment of women, whether it be in the mosque, the home, academia, the business world, or the halls of governance.
The social construct of most Muslim cultures, and the currently favored understanding of gender relations in Islam by many Muslims is one of complementarity. That is, they believe that Islam views men and women as complimentary in nature and function.
This construct is predicated upon the notion that women are more emotional and less intellectual than men (emotion being defined as those emotions women traditionally display more than men -- sentimentality, compassion, sadness -- and not including those that men traditionally display more often than women -- anger, pride, etc.) Women are seen as more frail and to be "taken care of" and led by men. Women's bodies are sources of temptation and chaos.
These beliefs justify husbands having utter authority over their wives, even to the extreme of allowing him to punish a "recalcitrant" wife by beating her. (Surveys have shown that both men and women in countries such as Egypt consider recalcitrant acts to be such "horrible" things as burning dinner, or not providing tea in the morning!) Since the man is the authority in the family, custody issues are often summarily decided by giving the children into his sole custody.
Beliefs that men are uncontrollably attracted to women's beauty are used to justify everything from requiring women to cover themselves in encompassing garments, to denying them education, jobs, or even the right to leave their homes unaccompanied. The desire to control women's sexuality (and thus, indirectly, men's) leads again to laws requiring veiling, as well as female circumcision and restrictions on women's mobility.
Notions that women are more emotional and less intellectual or logical has led to them being barred from leadership, not only of nations, but also in the business world... relegating them to "women's" careers such as teaching or nursing, while the men are principals, doctors, lawyers, etc. Even now, female doctors are referred to as "lady doctors" in many Muslim countries.
In one bold swoop, a woman delivering the Friday sermon and leading the prayers undermines each one of the assumptions that leads to gender discrimination. A woman who writes and delivers sermons must be learned and inspiring -- a natural leader. Her congregation is able to concentrate on her words and her message rather than her beauty. She is not a man's responsibility, rather she is taking responsibility for shepherding men's souls, the most important undertaking in this world from a religious point of view. She is an adult and a full member of society in the most complete meanings of those words.
Many of the young women I speak with argue that it is enough to have women religious scholars. I disagree. As long as women are excluded from any position, then it will be possible to justify excluding them from every position. If a woman is incapable or ineligible of leading the community in the most holy and sacred of duties, it is far easier to justify keeping her sisters from leadership in the mundane world, whether it is prohibiting her from leading a nation or driving a car, getting an education or a job. It is easier to justify discriminatory practices in divorce and custody cases. It challenges cavalier attitudes towards domestic violence, FGM, and honor killings.
If, on the other hand, she is an equal in the pulpit -- the most important position in society according to the religious point of view -- it is becomes difficult to deny her leadership in politics, business and the family. It is more difficult to justify denigrating or prejudicial treatment by husband, family or society.
One of the reasons I embraced Islam was the fact that the Qur'an, as I understood it, allowed for women's equality in all spheres. It posits complete spiritual parity. (see 4:1, 4:124, 16:72, 3:195, 16:97, or the famous 33:35 which reads: "For men and women who are devoted to God - believing men and believing women, law abiding men and law abiding women, men who speak truth and women who speak truth, men who are steadfast and women who are steadfast, men who are humble and women who are humble, men who give charity and women who give charity, men who fast and women who fast, men who keep chaste and women who keep chaste, men and women who remember God often - God has prepared for them forgiveness and a rich reward").
And it posits equality in the mundane words, from the usage of zauj to refer to both husband and wife, or describing them as protecting garments for one another (2:187), to verses which discuss men and women both receiving their wages (4:32), to verses which praise the Queen of Sheba for her wise leadership (27:23-44), or the mother of Moses for her wisdom and perseverance in face of her husband's recalcitrance. (66:11)
The Prophet's own example, from taking political counsel from women and men alike, to commanding Umm Waraqa to lead the prayers in her neighborhood and appointing a muezzin (caller to prayer) for her, also points to a society in which equality is at least the goal, if not the practice.
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Vote: EC{lat-arian Party for Gridarian Democracy & Trans{finite Prophecy Here We come! :
Att: L A Z A R U S @ 6:08 PM ;
"Synergetic-less Split-Minded Psychosis or Double Standard Psychosis & or Religio Jealousy Psychosis & or "Pre-apocalyptic Syndrome ye Surely Hath!
September 7, 2008 6:49 PM
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Response to Anonymous: “ Anonymous:
Many times I have heard from the pulpit how some Christian's like to pick some scriptures here and there to live by. You know, like Home Town Buffet. Putting yourself out there with a hodgepodge answer leaves some of us wishing you would just keep it to yourself. There is a question I have thought about during this run for the White House, what candidate would be able to stand up to the "Churches" qualifications according to Timothy 3:1-13. Verse two eliminates one candidate already.
September 7, 2008 5:18 PM
Att: A N O N Y M O U S @ 5:18 PM;
Which Timothy: 1 or 2?
September 7, 2008 5:29 PM
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Defend, Love & inherit holy Cosmic nebula-made space-ship earth, not tenach,bible,quran,gita:
Att: R A V i T C H, The Normal:
iNteresting: Me 1st Marriage (out of 3; hence "i" believe in Marrige between a real Mavorite-Mr, & a real Sporade-Ms) was to a "Primitive Baptist" who was 17 , and who got Preagnant by straddling my back & neck holding me back! & "i" was [inexperienced] 21. Yes, We have a 'Red-Head born in Atlanta, Ga., at the time.
Note: Suppose "i" did Pull Back? Thanks to me Ex, Then "i" would never had had a Son. And if ye think about, that 'Pulling-out' or even Comming via Condom" that that is tantamount to, maybe an ABORTiON!?? My Son Potentiate would of wound-up on his mothers belly or spent in a condom!??? What a Waiste of HEURiSTiC/a/o's {Souls] aye??
Ps: For this Reason, the "CLERGY(s)" & their Congregants/Assperants of America Should Refrain & Stay the heck away from SECULAR MORALiTY!
DO-NOT involve ye Biblical Morality (tautology) in the Secular SEXUAL-RiGHTs business! And not via gender 'Preferential", or Sex 'Orientational', but in the BED ROOM too ! And
Please Divinity Degreed Evangelicals_Nationals & Followers & similarly selfserved & situated folk, in Americ; Stay the Heck away from SECULAR GOVERNMENT Biz!
Hence the APOCALYPTARiAN's CREED:
"Modern [SECULAR] Morality is Superior To Any Biblical [Theocratic] Morality!"
Note: Mr. R. A. Mohler et al; Please leave ROE Vs. Wade Alone. It does not need Fixing! It is O.K., Besides, your Prez/Boy-BUSH did not overturn Wade. And Ye Voted for him, Why???
Revelation: If ye want, Please make it illegal to Ejackulate outside of a vagina with NO Condoms! Or to Masterbate!!! Remember, this is murder too, if ye wanna get Mystical about it!!! OR
Let You & Family & Parishoners, Congregants , Big mouth Activists, Adopt, Support & care for ALL, Every & Any Baby Born (mongaloids too) , in America, that is NOT WANTED!! And while ye are it it Mr. Mohler et al, Ye all can Also Support all the Parentless & Homeless Here & Abroad Too! But No 'Faith Based , Tax Payers, Handouts, Intitiatives money either.
Hint: And Ye Church gets ZERO "Faith Based Initiative Help!" As a matter of fact: Vote to Abolish them 'Executive Branch issued & STATE Usurpationed "Faith Based Initiatives" Today.!
note: Apocalypticaly Speaking: O.U.R. "GENE-POOL" Count is Cosmically Limited, even unto , the "real END-OF-TiME", in +/- 2.2/3.3 Billion Years from Today!
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Oh, Something additionaly interesting:
"OBAMA" means the 'Blessed One" [Similar]. But
"AL-ABAMA" {were my 1st American "JO{KTAN}" childs, Mother was Born, Auburn/Opelika, Al.) means "EC{LAT}i" Chosen-Blessed" people too!
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Hear Ye Hear Ye, O' Sweet Sweet Americ, U.S.A. is TRULY (opposite of MYTH) now ONE!
HALLALUYA! Praise the Hol{i}-NO-Men & No-Wo-men!
Vote: Marriage is between a Real Man & a real Woman, not a Mr. & Mr. or Ms. & Ms.
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Thank-A-Schame!
By: {j}{o}{s}{e}{v}{z}{DOT}Us:
September 7, 2008 4:30 PM
======= R. Mohler Jr. (6th).
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On: Ec{lati-on, "Harmonic Convergence of A new-age" via the U.N. World-Faith Exchange body
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Please see this wiki linko "i" forgot to post at "September 7, 2008 11:52 AM".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_Convergence
Excerpt: "..The Harmonic Convergence is the name given to a world-wide esoteric-religious event which took place on August 16 and August 17, 1987. The event was centered on a number of "sacred" places throughout the world from Stonehenge to the Golden Gate Bridge where individuals calling themselves "light beings" gathered in an attempt to usher in a new era.
The date of the Harmonic Convegence was based to some extent on the Mayan Calendar with some consideration also given to European and Asian astrological traditions. The chosen dates have the distinction of marking an alignment of the planets of the solar system."
AND
http://home.att.net/~ag2kh/HarmConv.htm
Excerpt: ".. The Harmonic conversion is a trigger for an incredible spiritual re-birth on our planet, involving the whole planet, bonding to mother Earth for a major spiritual surge. I'm not sure how its going to happen, whether it's going to be the Rapture effect, whether it actually happens during August, or whether seeds are sown for a gradual change over the next few years. Something is happening, we're all right in the middle of it, we have to think about the family of man and that is what the age of Aquarius is all about..."
---- E N J O Y! H A L L A L U Y A! Praise The Hol{i}-No-Wo-Men!
Thankyou Great great great great Grand-Ma/Pa-Milkmon Galaxy! Thankyou Great Great Great Ma/Pa-NEBULA! Thank You Great great Grand-Ma/Pa-SOLOAR/Sun! Thankyou Great-Ma-Pa-Earth(s) of Many!
---- By: {j}{o}{s}{e}{v}{z}@Us:
O.rdained R.elationship M.inister [ORM}, Revelator & Defender of the 'Holy Cosmic Feeler Faith, aka 'Ho-Co-Fe-Fa' System; a belief like a religion, yet better & a Lover of "O.U.R.-B.O.T.", ala the Holy-Cosmic Bible, aka "O.ne U.niversal R.eligion B.ook O.f T.rans{Finity}"
September 7, 2008 12:41 PM
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Anonymous:
Apocalyptically Speaking that, It's not SARAi Palin's turn to be Americas "2nd Lady!" If any. Yet that honor should've goneth to Sister Condaleeza Rice as MCcains vp mate! Not SARA!
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Please keep in mind that Prophetically spaketh, that a "..WOMAN [Hillary Clinton] will Lead Humanity to Glory...", unto HEALiNG OF NATiONS, Global Peace & many more GOOD TiDiNGs. Not SARAi Palin. Or False/imposter wannbe Copy Cat. So this Freudiand Bhaviour by John Sneakaroo Mcain is a FALSE Prophecy! This includes Geraldene Ferrara (not meant to be). like a 4 Year Purgatory, It s BIDEN's time to be V.P.! wait unto 2012+!
Note: in our "O.ne U.niversal R.eligion B.ook O.f T.rans{finity" [O.U.R.-B.O.T.] philosophy, that "EC{LAT-ARiAN-ity" , via OUR Holy Cosmic Feelers Faith [Ho-Co-Fe-Fa System], a belief, like a religion, but better, does say that "It Will be the WOMEN's Turn to Lead the MEN...!"
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Note: Biblically Revealing (opposite of Secret or Hidden from Us) and Speaking [yes, "i"m giveth a Sermon on Cyberspace via WAPO here this Sunday & will continue too every week] THAT
acording to Tenach's Novel-Star & 1st selfserving Rabbi or REV., Mr. MOSES (who had a Cosmic Given Divinity Degree?) that his (not OUR) Biblio Character, Madam 'SARA', not Condaleeza, aka Sister of Mr., eponymous Rabbi, Abraham
pimped-out his own flesh & blood to Kings. Hence, Biblically Speaking, 'HOW' JUDEO-JU's & JUDEO-CHRiSTS & JUDEO-ISLAMICs hath accumilated their Wealth, to enforce their (not OUR) Drunkin Racist Noah Storys and ViA the "SARA" PROSTiTUTiON Storys. Hence
'WHY" SARAi, at first blush, could 'not bear' child by her own Brother ABY (1/2 or not). Because of Too much coochypooing! by pimping Sara around with them non-Circumsized kings, Royalists, Shieks. Wow, Talikin Bout the MOTHER OF HARLOTS! Wow! Forget Babylon!
iF YE not believe "i" , then please see Any imported Pre-Apocalyptic Judeo-Ju, Judeo-Christ religious Bible book, starting @ GEN:12:10. (This was 'how' justified the Prostitution of SARA by Abraham) according to god Player (not O.U.R. G-D). AND
Please see Any imported Judeo-Christ/Judeo-Ju biblio @ GEN:12:11. (Before entering AEGYPT, Abe sais to his sister, " I know you are Beautifull...) And
Please see Any imported Judeo-Christo/Judeo-Ju Biblio book @ GEN:12:12. (Abe said, "When the Aegyptian MEN see you , don tell them I am ye Brother, but instead ye Husband. Wanting you for themselves (Arab Menatlity), they shall KiLL ME, but they will keep ye ALiVE..") AND
Please see any imported Judeo-Christo-Judeo-Ju biblio @ GEN:12:13, @ Gen:12:14, Gen:12:15-16.
Note: According to the ABRAHAM NiGHTS STORY's, via That MOSES, the Ex-CON, Fugitive & Murderer & Novelstar & god Player of all such Bollixing storys, FREUDiANTLY slipped & finally penned (never Cosmically):
@ GEN:12:17 Jealously saying,
"The LORD OF THE JUDEO-JEW(s)..
[aka ex-Pagan Meloch/Chemosh/AMEN/AMON Child & Adult Sacrifdicers] ...
Plaqued the PHAROAH [like PREZiDENT G.W. Bush] and his PALACE [CONGRESS] with great Plaques , 'BECAUSE' of SARAi, Abrahams Wife!
--- iNCAMERA(secret):
@ EXODUS:20:5 & DEUT:5:9, that According to 1st JUDEO-JEW Terrorist ,a Rabbi YAWEH loving, Mr. god player MOSES, did FREUDiANTLY Slip & wrote?,
"I" your-Lord-god (not 'O.U.R. G-D) am a JEALOUS god!" (not OUR G-D). AND
According To Mr. Rabbi JESUS the Judeo-Ju, turned into a Judeo-Christo does admitt ,
in any bible/Tenach @ 2-CORiNTHIAN:11:2, , aka IICor:11:2-kjv et al;
Reveals (opposite of secret/hidden) saying, ""I" Am JEALOUS over YOU with 'godly' (not 'OUR G-D') JEALOUSY!"
Hence: At that Point, that JUDEO-JU(s) & JUDEO-CHRIST(s) & their Armys, include Judeo-Islamica ARMY, are No Different From JUDAiSM [aka PRE-Apocalyptic zionism, instead of APocalyptic-ZiONiSM!].
Remember: There is a night & Day Difference between "Us" 'EC{LAT-ARiAN' Nationals or 'JO{KTAN'-ians {aka Uniters} aka "EC{LAT-i-ON(s)" , aka APOCALYPTARiNA(s), but Prefer to be called HUE{MATE}'s on, Hol{i} Cosmic, NEBULA-Built, Space-Ship Earth(s);
NOT/NO/Zero are We, Apocalyptarian(s)Nationalis, related to them PELEG-ian Nationals (aka HJudeo-DiViders or Judeo-War Mongers on Space-Ship Earth; which We Apocalyptarians must DESTROY) :
If Ye Not/No berlieveth "i" then, please see any Biblio @ LUKE:12:51 & LUKE:14:26, not Bible(s), not Quran(s), not Git(s), Kangyurs, not Tench(s), Scruti's etc..!
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Ooopppssssaaadizy: Almost Forgot:
Hereunder is a REvelation, aka Apocalypse via Prophecy, who's TiMe is Cometh for All to see:
Please keep in mind this other Big Big FREUDiAN-SLiP-OF-GENuINE-PROPHECY , that them JUDEO-NiCOLAioTAN's (jealous enemy's of Us EC{LAT-Arian Nationals of America 2013+) sliped & wrote & sang @ JOHN:5:46-47,
"..had YE believeth in (MOZEUS who personally knew Father Adam & his siter Eve) ) him ,then Ye Would hath believed ME (JEZUES; who also personally knew Mr. Moses) , ..but if ye do-not-believe in 'HiS' (not O.U.R.) writings, then how? can ye believe MY {Jezeus) WORD(s)?"
iMPORTANTo: All of Them, so called LEADERSHiPs
[them "Biblio/Teanach/Quran/Gita/Tripitaka/Scruti.." BOLLiXERS, aka Word-Merchants, aka Situational Lyers, aka Doer's & Denyer's...]
Proclaim? that that Very Same Judeo/immam/Priest or Rabbi JESUS Krishna Yashua (whom hath a Cosmic Divinity Degree?, like his MOSES) to be the
'The-ONLY BEGOTTEN-SON' of the LEALOUS Bible/Quran/Tenach/Gita God
@ (i.e., JOHN:3:16) et seq.. BUT,
But, Mr. MOSES, JESUS's highest MENTOR/GURU/RABBi/iMMAM/PRIEST .., Freudiantly slipped & said,
"Thus saith the LORD/YAWEH of JEHOVA of ALLAH of KrISHNA of BUDDHA.., iSRAEL/JACOB is 'My' S-O-N, even 'MY' 1st-first-BORN"!!!!!!"
iF ye do not believe "i", then please see any bible/Tenach
@ EXODUS:4:22 et seq!!!
--- Note "HUE{MATE" Kinds Potentiates, Not HUMAN-kinds anymore: THAT,
According to Ye 'iNFiXUS-BOOKS" [Pre-Apocalyptic , man-made; Tenach, Quran, Gita/Tripitaka/Kangyurs etc..] THAT,
APOCALYPTiCALLY Speaking: We are at the 'promised' MiLLENiUM cross-roads, called the 'Ec{lat-i-on's "HARMONiC CONVERGENCE OF A NEW AGE" Dispensation!
Explanation: According to The Ec{lat-Arian "NEW-SONG", aka the AMERiCAN Made & Prophecied "O.U.R.-B.O.T., @ Sub-Section:3.1-3.14", and according to a 'Legend' of
the AZTECS, a god (not our G-D) known among Them as the "QUETZALCOATL" of 'WiSDOM' & 'PEACE' , set-up an AZTEC-CALANDATE begining in the Judeo-Christ Calander Year 843, That
Called for 22 periods of 52 Years each, amounting to '13' DiSPENSATiON(s) of HEAVEN, followed by '9' Dispensations of HELL. So
the 1st Period of such a HELL started with the invasion Of MEXiCO by CORTEZ in the "A.D." Year 1519 of the Judeo-Christo Dating Systen(s) ; AND
the last Period of such HELL concluded at Dawn, AUGUST.16th.1987, A.D., Thus 'Dawning' Space-Ship EARTH(s) with an APOCALYPTiC SUNRiSE!!!!!!!
interestingly, please see APOCALYPTO , a Movie, by Prophetic , "'Ec{lat-ion' Potentiate" Brethren Mel Gibson (note: He is not/N/zero anti-Judeo JU, Judeo-Christ, nor judeo-islamic, nor Judeo-hindu/buddhist.. Hater). So,
And this is what the JUDEO-CHRiSTS-ians call it, A.P.O.C.A.L.Y.P.S.E, Meaning R-E-V-E-L-A-T-i-O-N from the SOURCE Of The Universe, aka EPONYMOUS EC{LAT + "i" = Life/Photons Awareness! So,
And this is what the JUDEO-iSLAMiCS of the EARTH (Musloms or Muslims), the NEW-AGE is to Become the 'Fullfilment' of the Z.i.L.Z.A.L predicted in their Scriptures/Suras (aka Westerly spelled Quran/Koran). note: ZiLZAL is tantamount to a 'SHAKiNG' of the World through beliefs of THE-PEOPLE , HUE{MATE's}, in connection wiuth their (not our) Creator! So,
And The HEBREW scripture/Pasuk Name for the Apocalypse & Dispensation Era is T.i.K.K.U.N, meaning the 'MENDiNG' of Relation-Ship(s) between Apocalyptic HUE{mate's, not Preapocalyptic Human's, & their god for the HEALiNG of The Nations World Wide! So,
And the HiNDU Scriptures (Stanzas) bear the name B.H.G.A.V.A.D, meaning the B.L.E.S.S.i.N.G through which the Prophets of god 'Move-On' to Fullfill PEOPLE-WiSE; and so, this "NEW-AGE" {EKClat-arianity} is the Hindu/Buddhist BHAGAVADiA!aka KINDULA.
iMPORTANT: Pre-Apocalyptically computed, that via Mystical ASTROLOGiCALLY thinking (not ASTRO-NOMY like in our Equonoxal Allignment knowlege) this "NEW-AGE" (via the world "interfaith-Nation"s) also marks the EARTHs shift from the impinging of the PiSCEAN-AGE (Pre-Apocalyptarianity) upon Us To the impinging of the AQUARiUS-AGE (Apocalyptarianity) upon Us, the END OF THe M.A.Y.A.N. calandate and the Begining of the M-i-L-L-E-N-i-U-M!
PERSUANTLY, "EC{LAT-i-ON"s [Apocalyptarian Nationals] , not "EC{lat-i-OFF"s [Pre-Apocalyptarian Nationals], WE HUE{mates can identify the thinking of OUR Humanity , before this New "iNSiGHT & PATTERN RECOGNiTiON" became the 'Starlight/photonics/Synapse' of O.U.R. Brains (Frontal lobe) and
"T.R.A.N.S.{F.i.N.i.T.i.Z.e.d" OUR ability to Space-Forthly fathom ANY Flaws in O.U.R-FAiTH {New-Song} , such as those compromising the 'OLD-STORY' of our Primitive Ancestor's (MEMETiCs as Progenators of OUR Gene-Pool) , as "PRE-APOCALYPTiC"! aka NiCOLAiTAN(s)!
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Paid For: By the U.S.A., 'JOC{TAN'-Eberu-Race ON Holy Cosmic NEBULA-Built Ma/Pa Earth! Not, No, Never via any PELEG {Dividers} Eberu Race Story’s anymore.
We , EC{LAT-i-ON's are a Prophecy Whose "TiME" (via Holy "TEMPERATURE") is Cometh, as Promised Us & as INHERiTENCE for ALL on this Holy Cosmic NEBULA-Built Ma/Pa-Earth(s) not via Quran(s), not Bible(s), not Gita(s) etc..!
Soo, Good Riddence Old-time Religions, competing & Hassling over a Name For their god (not O.U.R. G-D) as if be a genuine SYSTEM! Nice knowing YE SATANS/JiNNs/KALi/Durga...!
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H A L L A L U Y A! Praise the Hol{i}-NO-MEN & No-Wo-Men!
- From Jacob J....Z
(O.rdained R.elationship M.inister {ORM} & Revelator & Defender, of the "HOLY-COSMIC-FEELER(s) FAITH" {Ho-Co-Fe-Fa} , [A Belief like Religion, but Better thats based on TRUTH, opposite of MYTH system(s)] and a CRUXOLOGIST & BIOMENTALIST of the "O.ne U.niversal R.eligion Book of TRANS{FINITY}" (YE Immortal REALiTY on a Hol{i} Cosmic Move awareness). aka "OUR-BOT."
September 7, 2008 11:52 AM
======= R. Mohler Jr. (4th)
Beware Of Them NiCOLAiTAN(s) [ Them Divinity acting, enemys ], Amazing () No Grace!
Hark! "SECULAR-Morality" is Superior to any BiBLiCAL-morality, if Any!
Goodbye [Forever] All, Every & Any of ye Pre-Apocalyptic SuperStupidStitious PLURALiSTiC lovin , competing for a name for a [man-made] dead god system, instead of [innate] “ O.U.R. G-D“, aka E{CLAT + i = LiFE/Photon awareness, aka religio TRUE (opposite of MYTH) "SiNGULARiTY" religio SYSTEM!.
note: Only The Satan/Jinn/Devil/Kali/Durga wants [Plurality] aka "DiViSiON" of competing religion(s)/god(s). Tantamount to "PLURALiTY" of.
Please see, any, holy Bible @ LUKE:12:51. So,
RAbbi JESUS lovers Worship [Evangelicals Armageddon lovers] WAR/DiViSiON, instead of EKCLAHT! Hence
Why We ,EKCLAHTARiAN's Nationalis
(each a unique Frontal-Lobe Hue{mate}, aka A CiTiZEN/DENiZEN of O.U.R. Holy Cosmic NEBULA BUiLT Ma/Pa-Earth(s))
are all called "KHATAN"ians, aka "JO{KTAN' Nationals" of AMERiCA SpaceForthing & FutureBounded for the Prophecy of 2013+!
Note: Thee Cosmic UNiVERSE is our O.U.R. & innate & real 'Constitution' via "IT"s own 'CLAUSES' arising [for Us] from "IT"s very own LAW(s) OF NATURE. Something to Magnify, uphold & make Honorable unto real END OF TiME (via TEMPERATURE not clock) +/- 2.4/3.3 Billion Years from Today!
Goodbye Grand-Ma/Pa SOLOR-SUN!
Goodbye Ma/Pa GEOiD-EARTH!
Goodbye Sister LUNA/MOON!
Goodbye Brethren MARSHiN-MARS!
Goodbye Cousin Liquid-TiTAN! Etc!
-- HELLO , Hello another ESCHATOLOGiCAL POSSiBiLiTY MOMENT of the O.U.R. awareness via the DUE-TO-BE-[again] Hol{i} Cosmic Placement Machine, working Us in another World again!
Note: We "MAGMAPERCOLATED" via the "OCEANiC-MEGA-PLUME-WOMB" & We are immortal "HEURiSTiC/a/o"s (SOUL) that Eternally , Yet still MIMETiCally , 'Planet-Hop' to other-Worlds, as we appeared in the Past placements, the Current & thence the Future again via the "Non-Gravity Place" of the Holy Cosmic "5th Dimension of the Hol{i} 9th "TiME" (Through the MEDiUM of O.U.R. MiRACULOUS Holy 'TEMPERATURE' awareness, not clock nor space time thinking)
GATEWAY To something from Nothing & nothing to something! aka via O.U.R. "HOLY COSMiC-MiZAN OF THE UNiVERSE" {BALANCEng Act/Purpose} similar to Universal CONSERVATiON OF PARiTY, via Hol{i},Absolute HOT & absolute COLD, "TEMPERATURE" mixing, aka real "TiME", not Clock/space, balancing!
This is YE genuine MiRACLE Apocalyptic song & story, not Tenach, Bible, Quran, Gita, Kangyur etc.. Pre-Apocalyptic song storys!
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iMAGiNE: No more Hasling over a NAME FoR a manmade 'god(s)' instead of "O.U.R. innate G-D" Hence EKCLAT, the Not-JEALOUS & thus FEARLESS Hol{i}-NO-MEN! nor NO-WO-MEN!
Goodbye Bollixed Evilgelical Church's, Synogogues, Moaques, Temples, Places of Organized Worship etc.. & their Nationals!
Goodbye Judeo-JU's!, [Rabbi MOZEUS]
Goodbye Judeo-Christos! [Rabbi JEZUES]
Goodbye Judeo-Islamics! [Trader MUHAMMAD]
Goodbye Judeo-Hindus! [Poet VYASA]
Goodbye Judeo-Buddhists! [Prince GAUTAMA]
Goodbye Hethens! [Sons & Daughters of the Mother Of HARLOTS of Babylon}
Goodbye Pagans, Wicaanss, Witches, Shamans , Queers et al! [Sodom & gommorah vile folks].
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A P O C A L Y P T A R i A N i T Y!
[Thee final Religion() of All Religion(s)].
A Religion like, who's 'TiME' (via hol{i} 'TEMPERATURE' awareness , not man made clock thinking ) based on TRUTH (opposite of MYTH).
Fact: We "HUE{MATE}-kinds, not HUMAN-unkinds, are together forever with "SOURCE-ONE" (Eponymous 'EC{LAT' + "i" = LiFE/Photons Awareness) and that We are Students Forever, of "IT" (G-d), and We Hue{mate}s never graduate!
How about You?
WHEREFORE: Magnify, Uphold & Make Honorable the "O.U.R.-B.O.T." [the Religio of Everything before the Science of Everything]. The Last Wonder of the religio Song & Storys! A NEW-SONG, coming from All YE OLD-SONG storys!
Therefore: "Like A Caterpillar TRANSMUTEs into a Butterfly.." Tantamount to saying: "Once "i" was Lost, but now "i" am Found!" Hence, Never again say AMEN/AMON/AMEEN, instead Sing:
THANK YOU Great Great Great Grand-MA/PA Holy Cosmic Ma/Pa GALAXY Built-NEBULA, like OUR Grand-Ma/Pa Solor/sun SYSTEM was BEGOT of Many!
Most iMPORTANT: O.U.R. G-d, is neither-A "He"/him/his nor a "She/her. Simply sayth G-D is an "IT" being "iTSELF" in and of Us All! A genuine Birth awareness as Miracle & not/Never is "IT" an insane Biblical Sin/Curse Birth Story!
NOTE: Then, All them Judeo-Evangelical Christo Kids, are Born in Cursed/Sin story; , never OUR: Us 'EC{LATARiAN' -- NATiONALiS's MEMETiCs (posterity) of America!!
Remember: We Hue{mate}'s are All SON(s) & DAUGHTER(s) [MEMEtic's] of the Creator of Apocalyptic Hol{i}-PHOTON awareness , not Pre-Apocalyptic un-holy Biblical light Song & Storys!
V O T E: Sacred Marriage is between a real Man {MAVORiTE} & a real Lady {SPORADE}, never by a Man & a Man etc..!
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HALLALUYA! Praise The Hol{i}-No-MEN! [never is nor was nor can "IT" or "iTSELF" be, a HE or a She incarnate!
Praise the HOL{i}-Cosmic Fiat Lux! Not Beyond GENiSiS:1:1,2,3.
W A R N i N G:
W A R N i N G:
W A R N i N G:
Never Go Past or Beyond GENiSiS:1;1,2,3. Never! Or YE (you & World) will be BOLLiXED!
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Submitted: By the JO{KTAN} Eberu Race of AMERiCA & the 'EC{LAT-ARiAN' PLORETARiATE MOVEMENT 2013+.
For third time Originally Poste SEPTEMBER, 6, 2008, 6:34PM, but Jealously Deleted by Satans in wolfs Garb.
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Something on 'Organized Religious Leaders' acting as Religio Mafiosos Chiefs in USA:
Att: A N O N Y M O U S @ 12:19Pm.Today.
Interesting: Ye saith, ".. Why the double standard on the sanctity of life?
Why: Because Apocalyptically Speaking, and as mentioned, so so many times on WAPO, that Them 'Anti-Abortionist(s), i.e., EVANGELiCAL, aka Evilgelical(s), aka Jealousical(s), All Hath
"DOUBLE STANDARD PSYCHOSiS" & "Pre-Apocalyptic Syndrome" & or "Religious Jealousy Psychosis."
iMPORTANT: The 'Average' Evangelical, like Richard LAND & Albert Mohler , & similarly situated on 'onfaith'here that , all hath acute "Synergetic-less: Split Minded Thinking!"
They are Satanicaly Driven via Bible @ LUKE:14:26 & need a Rude awakening; even by using force if need be. And Driven by allthem RAbbi JEZEUS Lovers @ LUKE 12:51 (Evangelicals Churchs against Secular STATE/FED/Gov, and or Non-Evangelicals!
Their (not OUR) "imported" [un]godly Books , aka Bibles, Qurans, Gita, Tripitakas, Scrutis.. & also their (not OUR)so called "Religion" are "NOT MADE , nor Propheceid here, IN AMERiCA!"
They are an Insult to O.U.R. intelligence & a Direct & Indirect THREAT to Us "Apocalyptarian Nationalis", aka each is being a unique DENiZEN/CiTiZEN, justly for a TiME, on Holy Cosmic, Ma.Pa NEBULA-BUiLT, Space Ship Earth(s), of Many., aka S.S. GAiA, S.S. GEOiD, S.S. TELLUSng something.
Point: It is Time to Remove All of Their United States
[CHURCH(s) Encroaching on (willfull or Not) SECULAR/State Business, Modern Morality issues etc.]
'I.R.S. "Tax-Exempt Status's" (a SECULAR 501c3 Privilige, not a Right), starting with Rick WARREN's 4-Saddleback Churches in California, U.S.A. for attempting to stage a TELEvangelical Coup D Atat of OOU SECULAR Government in Sweet Sweet America; and for a Church Abstructing Justice via Anti U.S. SUPREME COURT [secular[ Biz!! and other , so called, Leagal Beaver Reasons!
PS: Let them So-called 'Anti-Abortionist' & their Organized CHURCH based Institution(s),aka diaquised as not for PROPHET, but PROFiT Business's, take care , or adopt ALL, EVERY & ANY wanted or unwanted 'BABY SYNDROMED" Child. This
includes Prividing Care for Sara Palins 5th Baby! Howq about thiose Poor moms with defective babys?
Note: These selfserving EViLGELiCAL , Anti-SECULAR & Anti-Abortionists, should foot the support, Costs, Expenses & or Bills therefrom, to ALL Mothers (re-godless) who bring about a wanted or 'unwanted' Hue{mate}. And Hello anti-Condum Vatican Church too!??
Note: And WE must make sure Them Evangelicals will recieve ZERO, nada , tax payed Hand-Outs, via any "Faith Based initiative" Moneys.
Vote: Reverse & Abolish Reagans/Clintons/Bush's "Faith Based Initiatives" EXECUTiVE Order(s)! THAT is what's Broken & thus needs a Prophetic FiXiNG 1st, et al! And
Vote: Fortwith to Legally REmove ALL, Every & Any thing that looks like a "CHURCH, or Religious, ESTABLiSHED" in OUR STRUCTURE OF THE Federal/State GOVERNMENT" and to
not/Never Allocate/Appropriate any Tax money's to Any Religio Member/Leadership there from: (Church(s), Synogogues, Mosques, Temples..). They must be left to fend on their own.
Specifically : PRiSON Chaplains, MiLiTARY Chaplain(s), Chuck Colsons PRiSON MiNiSTRiES , Evangelical Church owned or sponsored Private Prisons in U.S.A. etc,..et al..!
Fact: Evangelicals hold & Share, between themselves, 70% of the GNP in U.S.A! Talking about Pork Barrel, best interest etc..! Sham & Schame!
iNCAMERA(Secret) as long as that annual $2 Billion so called "Faith Based Intiatives" stays on the Presidential Bush's Executive order, That these CHURCH Leaders will 'ENRiCH Themselves & then use some of that money to Promote therir Agendas! Like re-Introducing 'Intelligent Designer Rabbi JESUS, the Creator Story's, etc..!
Note: These Religio Satanic Pre-Apocalyptic Mafios'o Leaders, will do anything (includes Lying, Trickery, Cheating, bribing, curruption..) to Promote & Enforce their (not OUR) Most EViL STORY EVER TOLD, aka the "DRUNKiN Racist NOAH Story's" et seq!
Like a Cancer, We need to Kill Their 'Imported Religion ([man-Made] SYSTEMS, competing & Hassling for a name for 'their god', instead of 'OUR [innate] G-D').
Goodbye JERUSALEM!
Goodbye VATiCAN!
Goodbye MECCA!
Goodbye CANTERBURY!
Goodbye HELLENiCS!
Goodbye TiBET, NEPAL, ARMiSTAR etc..
Goodbye PAGANS, HETHENS, Wiches, Wicaans, Shamns, Voddoists..
H E L L O: NEW YORK! The Cradle Of 'EC{LAT{ARiANity}, a 'Holy Cosmic Feelers Faith. (Ho-Co-Fe-Fa) is Prophetically Borneth! And the Center of the O.ne U.niversal R.eligion: B.ook O.f T.ransfinity" (O.U.R.-B.O.T.), aka The Hol{i)-Cosmic-Bible!
Vote: For "The Religion of Everything, before the Science of Everything."
Vote: For the "SiNGULARiTY" of All Pre-Apocalyptic PLURALiSTiC Religio as Belief or Faith Based, System(s) on Space-Ship Earth Today!
A Apocalyptic genuine MONO (innate) G-D System(), never again a Pre-Apocalyptic PLOYTHEistic (man Made) as if TRUE (opposite of MYTH) god System(s).
--- VOTE: i.e., To illegalize All 'iMPORTation' [not made in America] of the KiNG James Version {a monopoly owned by QUEEN of England & Canterburys} un-holy Bible(s) & all ritual Paraphenelia & their (not OUR) Accessarys.
-- Remember the "'EC{LAT{ARiAN' CREED"
"MODERN-Morality (APOCALYPTARiANiTY) is Superior to ANY BiBLICAL-Morality (PRE-Apocalyptarianity) SYSTEM!"
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Sponsored by the "JO{KTAN}" Nationalis Party U.S. Of A." & by the "EC{LAT}ARiAN MOVEMENT" for Gridarian Democracy & Trans{FiNite} CiCiLiZATiON, 2013+!
Originally posted September 6, 2008 3:27 PM, but JEALOUSLy deleted.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2008 11:15 PM
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happy Ramazan!
happy everyday!
Happy G-D Hunting!
Allah Karim!
Posted by: oooppsssadaisy | September 7, 2008 6:00 PM
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Hello Rabbi T A Y L O R, et al:
interesting!
in Shalllah!
Posted by: Ma ha bar? | September 7, 2008 5:59 PM
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Not going to make a difference, as long as you follow a man who stole the childhood of a 6 year old girl.
Posted by: ross | September 6, 2008 5:53 AM
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JESUS WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER
Posted by: Kwaayesnama | September 5, 2008 3:50 PM
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party archy? by women as leaders? lovely.
here is the graphical language exercise for TOEFL, for the party in these eight years! i have already a bluetooth ear headset.
www.sabah.com.tr/haber,C0753B67C37A47DB9BE9FF6DED1B3AF8.html
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Posted by: sthumblewidecircle | September 5, 2008 11:27 AM
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What is this challenge to Partiarchy you're talking about?
Partiarchy?
Do you mean, maybe... Patriarchy?
While an easy error to make, having it so blatantly visible in the title of the article greatly undermines the credibility of the writer as well as that of the Washington Post especially since I doubt it was the author who made the error.
More likely the hourly employee who put the article on the website.
Posted by: Strangebrew | September 5, 2008 9:56 AM
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I've got a real problem taking what this woman has to say; particularly when she is dressed as ordered by males in Islam. Please note the headcovering.
palin's unfitness as second-in-command has nothing to do with her gender, only her lack of any meaningful experience and the poor decision-making she has used while obtaining the small amount of experience she does have.
Posted by: spike59101 | September 5, 2008 8:11 AM
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"As long as women are excluded from any position, then it will be possible to justify excluding them from every position."
Exactly. When I read Taylor's description of most Muslim cultures, I am overcome with sadness for the women who live under that oppression. I cringe at imagining my daughters growing up in such a culture. One can argue whether the Qu'ran requires or opposes the oppression, but that's irrelevant to the fact that the oppression is wrong.
Posted by: Tonio | September 4, 2008 3:16 PM
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QUR'AN, HADITH AND WOMEN
http://www.csss-isla.com/IIS/archive/archive.php?article=2008/february.htm
Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:12 PM
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You (Pamela) embraced Islam because of a few scattered morsels that you were fed concerning equality OF WOMEN in Islam.Why do you not address the issues were women are regarded as possessions and being deficient in intelligence and being of much lower standing then muslim men.Pamela...you have to examine the whole package and accept the whole package..not pick what agrees with your sesibilities and disregard what is unpalatable to you.You have to take a step back and look at islam with a CRITICAL eye..You have to be honest to yourself-----are you.
Remember belief is accepting something as being true without PROOF
Posted by: IAN | September 4, 2008 10:23 AM
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Pam, Pam, Pam,
You noted: "One of the reasons I embraced Islam was the fact that the Qur'an, as I understood it, allowed for women's equality in all spheres. "
Time to reevaluate your choices in life.
Start by reviewing the synsopsis of Islam 101:
Mohammed (Mahound in Sir Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses) was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/ hallucinating/ plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" aka "pretty, wingie thingies" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.
This agenda continues as shown by the assassination of Bhutto, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/ mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, and the Filipino “koranics”.
And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.
Current crises:
The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder
Added reading material- Ayaan Hirsi Ali's autobiography, "Infidel".
"Thus begins the extraordinary story of a woman born into a family of desert nomads, circumcised as a child, educated by radical imams in Kenya and Saudi Arabia, taught to believe that if she uncovered her hair, terrible tragedies would ensue. It's a story that, with a few different twists, really could have led to a wretched life and a lonely death, as her grandmother warned. But instead, Hirsi Ali escaped -- and transformed herself into an internationally renowned spokeswoman for the rights of Muslim women."
ref: Washington Post book review.
three excerpts:
p. 47 paperback issue:
"Some of the Saudi women in our neighborhood were regularly beaten by their husbands. You could hear them at night. Their screams resounded across the courtyards. "No! Please! By Allah!"
p.68:
"The Pakistanis were Muslims but they too had castes. The Untouchable girls, both Indian and Pakistani were darker skin. The others would not play with them because they were untouchable. We thought that was funny because of course they were touchable: we touched them see? but also horrifying to think of yourself as untouchable, despicable to the human race."
p. 347
"The kind on thinking I saw in Saudi Arabia and among the Brotherhood of Kenya and Somalia, is incompatible with human rights and liberal values. It preserves the feudal mind-set based on tribal concepts of honor and shame. It rests on self-deception, hyprocricy, and double standards. It relies on the technologial advances of the West while pretending to ignore their origin in Western thinking. This mind-set makes the transition to modernity very painful for all who practice Islam".
p.309
"Between October 2004 and May 2005, eleven Muslim girls were killed by their families in just two regions (there are 20 regions in Holland). After that, people stopped telling me I was exaggerating."
Posted by: Concerned The Christian Now Liberated | September 3, 2008 2:12 PM
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O'Victoria, O'Victoria, O'Victoria,
Word has it that your husband smacked you up the side of the head when he caught you reading Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book, Infidel. True or false??
The following excerpts from the book substantiate Islams views of women:
p. 47 paperback issue:
"Some of the Saudi women in our neighborhood were regularly beaten by their husbands. You could hear them at night. Their screams resounded across the courtyards. "No! Please! By Allah!"
p.68:
"The Pakistanis were Muslims but they too had castes. The Untouchable girls, both Indian and Pakistani were darker skin. The others would not play with them because they were untouchable. We thought that was funny because of course they were touchable: we touched them see? but also horrifying to think of yourself as untouchable, despicable to the human race."
p.309
"Between October 2004 and May 2005, eleven Muslim girls were killed by their families in just two regions (there are 20 regions in Holland). After that, people stopped telling me I was exaggerating."
p. 347
"The kind on thinking I saw in Saudi Arabia and among the Brotherhood of Kenya and Somalia, is incompatible with human rights and liberal values. It preserves the feudal mind-set based on tribal concepts of honor and shame. It rests on self-deception, hyprocricy, and double standards. It relies on the technologial advances of the West while pretending to ignore their origin in Western thinking. This mind-set makes the transition to modernity very painful for all who practice Islam".