Spitzer's Woes: An Ancient Tale in a Modern World
The Question: What does the Eliot Spitzer scandal say about our public and private morality? Should he have resigned?
Yes, Governor Spitzer should have resigned. New York government would have been paralyzed and the media would have remained paroxysmal in its obsession with the story of one person, while six billion others also have lives to live.
What does his fall tell us about the state of morals in the United States? Ethicists urge that one should not make full-blown generalizations on the basis of single extreme cases. This is an extreme case. Step back from it and survey the scene, and you will find plenty of moral lapses and human faults and falls to inspire immeasurable whining, finger-pointing, and judging.
The question implies that this case might reveal something about the state of the present culture in contrast to that in other times. Optimists and moral progressives have little to cheer: we are not rising to new moral heights. But pessimists and crabby people who always think that earlier times offer no such cases need some history lessons.
To illustrate: much of Western moral language descends from the Greco-Roman world and its great philosophers. Most of the Greek heroes and gods and exemplars would make Governor Spitzer look like the head of his class at Sabbath School The Jewish-Christian heritage, to which I happily adhere and from which I would learn, offers sad cases on almost every page of the records.. The Gospel of Matthew (1:1-16) lists one version of the family tree of Jesus of
Nazareth, "who is called the Messiah." One of his great-great-great-etc. grandmothers in this telling was Rahab, the prostitute from Jericho. And among the males, Governor (strike that: King!) David lusted after a women whom, before he could marry her, he had to first turn into a widow by having her husband killed.
The sacred books do not cover up the flaws of people of power, but, in the case of the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament ,which are realistic in their accounting of what happened to them--usually worse than impeachment--also included stories of grace and love, gain and growth, restitution and reconciliation, which finally portrayed moral lives which remain worthy as examples and inspirations. Maybe some day Governor Spitzer can come back to the public world and play a positive role. He can't do that right now.
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Martin Marty
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March 14, 2008; 7:33 AM ET
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Posted by: Norrie Hoyt | March 15, 2008 10:39 AM
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Norrie Hoyt:
In certain areas of the country bootleggers and preachers have a coalition to keep the place dry. Guess why.
Prohibition made Al Capone who would have had a tough time making a living robbing liquor stores a baron operating an illegal liquor supermarket.
Did you notice how folks like Spitzer and Ted Haggard get caught in their own traps? Must be the difference in being the illegal operator and the customer.
You don't suppose Spitzer was getting a "rake" off that and/or other P-ring(s)? Making prostitution, and alcohol and drugs..., illegal increases profits and generally shuts out legitimate business-folk out limiting competition so he had every reason to do that if he was in on the take.
Interesting how the RC church said it was OK for French prostitutes to put their earnings on "the plate" as long as they were sorry of course.
Posted by: BGone | March 14, 2008 6:42 PM
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Thank you for posting an honest article.
Ms. Quinn ( the adulteress) and other sinners are throwing venom on the victim.
Posted by: DrCha | March 14, 2008 5:34 PM
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Why is prostitution considered immoral by some and made a crime for all?
For the same psychological reasons that drinking alcohol was considered immoral by some and made a crime for all during Prohibition.
The psychology of the bluenoses and prohibitionists has always been disturbed and suspect, as is the criminalization of these diverting activities.
Posted by: Norrie Hoyt | March 14, 2008 2:50 PM
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The sacred books do not cover up the flaws of people of power, but also included stories of grace and love, gain and growth, restitution and reconciliation, which finally portrayed moral lives which remain worthy as examples and inspirations.
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Exactly right! None of us can make judgments about the Governor's morals - "let him who is without sin". Yet everyone is gleefully jumping on his political grave.
One can hope that his family will ultimately forgive him and through that reconciliation grow in grace and love.
All of us will fail at some point to be moral and will need forgiveness. If his wife forgives him, that would be the best result of this unseemly display of public denunciation.
Posted by: Paul | March 14, 2008 1:48 PM
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It's not about the sex. Lots of people are stupid when it comes to sex.
It's about the crime. The Gov. of NY, a former federal prosecutor, knew he was committing a crime and did it anyway.
That's beyond stupid.
Posted by: E favorite | March 14, 2008 1:17 PM
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Hmmm, what was Mr. Spitzer's biggest mistake??
He did not become a Muslim. Had he, he could have declared his call girls his other wives and been above the law at least in the Islamic world.
Posted by: Concerned The Christian Now Liberated | March 14, 2008 12:22 PM
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Nonsense bgone. Based entirely on assumptions mostly unproven and you know what assuming does.
Posted by: Garyd | March 14, 2008 12:10 PM
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You can say that again, "This is an extreme case." Are you sure the, $4,300 a trick isn't nothing more than an advertisement for young ladies with an eye on business? The word "wh*ar" is most often heard on Wall Street in reference to financial deals -now take Bear Sterns for example. Of course there's politics and especially religion.
What's a soul worth? http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul tells us those willing to sell theirs and lead the multitudes to hell will be handsomely rewarded or is that just "The Jewish-Christian heritage."?
Get educated already. The fictional King David was based upon a real person, a woman named Mutemweya, Queen of Egypt and the mother of fictional Jesus who's story is based upon her daughter, a blasphemer claiming to be the son of Pharaoh, (see story of Lot and his daughters for ancestory of Jesus). Saying that Jesus came from the house of David is a gross understatement.
Posted by: BGone | March 14, 2008 11:37 AM
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yes indeed sexual immorality is as old as man and has innumerable defenders. None of this serves as an excuse for what Mr. Spitzer did. Mr. Spitzer engaged in an act of extreme selfishness. That his accomplises were willing changes nothing.
Posted by: garyd | March 14, 2008 10:18 AM
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BGone,
Thanks for your post.
I agree with you.
Regards.