Obama's Church of Contradictions

Lisa Miller is an absolute joke.

What Rev. Wright said was the whole truth, but white Americans only want to hear "partial truth."

Barack Obama now wants to address the race issue without offending whites. It's not possible.

What Lisa Miller does here and elsewhere is damn Rev. Wright without specifically saying what was so "offensive." Was it "God damn America"? Did that so offend Lisa Miller's sensitivities?

What was the context of that remark, Lisa? I know you don't have stones, but tell us, "What was the context?" Was it that God does not bless every drug deal or purse snatcher or anyone else who does evil? And hasn't the U.S. been guilty of evil at times?

So the Context, you moron, was that God doesn't just "bless" America because it's politically convenient. He also damns the evil that is perpetrated by a government that acts, not out of 'GOOD,' but out of it's own self-interest.

You white people just make me sick.

And if that's upsetting to you, that's how upsetting it is to read the kind of nonsense that Newsweek allows to be published in its pages under the guise of "respectability."

What garbage.

I'm not sure why people are so upset with what Rev. Wright said. He spoke the truth. I don't see what he said as being anti-American. You can love the sinner but not the sin. America has committed a lot of sins. That's just a fact, but I love America just the same.

It seems that Americans in general have trouble with being self critical.

I'm not sure why people are so upset with what Rev. Wright said. He spoke the truth.

Please ask Lisa Miller to appear again on FOX. I will be glued to the set! Where have you been hiding her? What a combo of brains and beauty!

Give me a break basically all blacks are suppose to think alike. What blacks are not capable of thinking for themselves, blacks need someone else to think for them? What church do the other presidential candidates belong too? Who is their pastor? Why do blacks always need a black leader? Who is the white leader? Nobody ever talks about that. It not like Rev. Wright was lying about what he said history books supports most of what he says. Lets be honest the whole world is watching and America is being exposed for the fraud it is. We can continue to focus on the man's race and church or we can do something to make America better world wide.

Give me a break basically all blacks are suppose to think alike. What blacks are not capable of thinking for themselves, blacks need someone else to think for them? What church do the other presidential candidates belong too? Who is their pastor? Why do blacks always need a black leader? Who is the white leader? Nobody ever talks about that. It not like Rev. Wright was lying about what he said history books supports most of what he says. Lets be honest the whole world is watching and America is being exposed for the fraud it is. We can continue to focus on the man's race and church or we can do something to make America better world wide.

No way will I give Obama the benefit of the doubt. How dare he speak to America on race. if I were to be at a church that the pastor started spewing hatred towards blacks and Jew's and America. It would only take ma as long as it took to get to the door, to leave. He was an active member for 20 years. Come on can any rational person think he does not share at least some of the veiws of Wright. Between the 2 pastors that are racsist haters and ties to anyone from the Weather Underground, my question is how did he become a senator? Very troubling he got this far.Its an example of how far left and radical some in this country are. I know there are radicals on the right too, I don't want either of them to be President of this great country.

It appears to be a common denominator among some cross accusations in the posts: your church (pastor, priest, rabbi, imam, minister, padre, etc.) have said worse things than mine.

All we are somehow related to a religion. Depending of your age, you have hear during 10, 20 or more years your religion leaders say those things.

Some agree with the preaching, other do not. Some keep silence, others react and say something. Others simply quit, but not before years and years of silence.

The first person that preaches religion to us is our mother or other significant relative, at an age that we even do not understand what this loved person is telling to us. No wonder why is tough to quit, but never is late.

Peace to all and best wishes.

JAC

Wow! you missed the whole point of the anecdote at the end, which is about the elderly black man joining the Obama campaign because of that little girl. The story was about mutual recognition between people, and it is from those moments of mutual recognition (and not a decision to vote or campaign for Obama), that we begin.

And speaking of mutual recognition, that is what we need to think about when we see videos of Trinity church members applauding those statements. Mike Huckabee graciously reached for that mutual recognition in an MSNBC interview.

Some will say, well, you wouldn't ask for mutual recognition if it was a white preacher saying he was unapologetically white, etc. But symmetry is not equivalence.

The kind of "sound bites" that we've seen and heard from Jeremiah Wright only serve to divide the races, not unite them.

Probably none of the current generation of whites have ever employed a black slave and would be extra careful to not appear in any way to be race-biased.

Churches like the one that Wright had pastored should really be encouraged to MOVE ON.

The Issue is Not Jeremiah Wright. The Issue is Barck Obama Running For President of USA, "Promising Change We Can Believe In", while a 20 year activist member of "A Black Power" Organization of Blach Nationalism and Liberation with anti-White Hate. The Black Panthers are members and active in his campaign.

Who do not see the hypocrisy and Contradiction in what Barak says?

Oh there "Reality Challenged", Malaysian Deflawer and Obfuscating Jihadist,

Hmmm, you noted "Some of us do damn our own countries for what we see as failing us, our hopes and aspirations".

And what failings in Malaysia have you damned? Hopefully these failings included the flaws and errors in Islam.

For some strange reason, you always forget these flaws in Islam so again the first four:

1. Believe in "pretty/ugly wingie" thingies and teach your children that such things really exist.

2. Believe that the long-dead Arab did actually talk to the "pretty Gabriel" in the "Gabe" cave and therein received the warmongering and anti-female passages now listed in the koran.

3. That Sunnis are superior to Shiites in all aspects of life.

4. That Islam is perfect and the koran inherently condones no sin even though the 24/7 800 year-old feud between Sunnis and Shiites give significant credence that suicides, assassinations, maiming, and murder are condoned by the koran. Having multiple wives also gives significant credence to the sins of lust and polygamy. The condoned treatment of these wives gives credence that the koran allows the sins of anger and greed.

Hiding behind imams and clerics blinded by 1400 years of brainwashing serves no purpose other than to secure a dishonest living for said imams and clerics.

Churchandstatewall: I absolutely agree with you 100%!

Nobody's suggesting that we overlook unsavory comments by Democrat's religious leaders.

I'm *demanding* that we STOP overlooking unsavory remarks by Republicans' religious leaders.

Huckabee got a virtual free ride by the "liberal" media for associating himself with people ten times worse.

Huckabee was also a serious presidential candidate.

If we're going to scrutinize Obama's religious ties, and the wicked things that some have reportedly said, I'm sick and tired of the GOP getting a completely free ride by the media when they sleep with the same sorts of dogs.

Churchstatewall: I agree that some Republicans consort with some pretty unsavory "religious" leaders, however, that doesn't justify overlooking those same issues just because the unsavory "religious" leader happens to be the 20-year "mentor and spiritual adviser" of a Democratic contender for the Presidency.

Wanna know how to get ourselves past the divisive comments of Obama's pastor?

Easy. Pretend that Obama is a Republican. Many Republicans attend churches that preach divisive hate week after week, and that doesn't seem to hurt them. In the "right" parts of the country, that actually gets them elected.

Sometimes, the candidate himself is a pastor in a hate-preaching religious sect.

Take former Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, for example.

Huckabee is a pastor in the Southern Baptist denomination. A very high official in the Southern Baptist Convention, Wiley Drake, has actively been praying for the DEATHS of certain religious freedom activists* -- and the rest of the leadership of the SBC refuses to repudiate him.

Here, we have a high official in the SBC issuing, for all intents and purposes, a death fatwa -- yet this hasn't been brought to bear against Huckabee's candidacy whatsoever.

Yes, indeed, the argument can be made that affiliation with a church can be considered a sharing of values. But the argument ONLY seems to be made when you're a Democrat.

If you're a Republican, your pastor or denomination can house the most vile, hateful leaders -- and nobody utters a word.

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* More info: http://blog.au.org/2008/02/19/the-diabolical-dr-drake-sbc-official-had-more-power-than-sbc-flack-admits/

Perspective: Wright's racism is not necessarily worse or better than any other racism -- it is all bad.

Since when is Jeremiah Wright's racism any different than the white racism we see scattered liberally throughout these message boards?? The flimsiest of rationalizations brings it boiling to the surface. Perhaps it's a good thing for Obama to get the ugliness out in the open fairly early on in the contest. You know it was always lurking in the shadows - two sides of the same coin. I doubt that Hillary will gain much from this, but McCain stands to gain considerably.

The swiftboaters have now got all the ammunition they need for their nasty PR work down the road, should Obama secure the nomination. The country stands to make another phenomenal blunder by conceivably electing McCain as a result of the usual 'dark elements' exacerbating the white fear factor yet again....first it was the fear of Al Qaida in your backyard, and now it's 'black separatism' that's the problem - the absurdity of it is only exceeded by the gullibility of the masses.......

Angela: Unfortunately, Cone did say all of the quotes listed under this thread. This is the basis of black liberation theology, which Obama's spiritual adviser has taught at his church for 20 years.

Alan, I pray that Mr. Cone didn't say that. Please tell me no. This is blasphemy and exhaulting one self above God; telling the potter that he is the clay. Really scary that such things are taught much less in the church. Also, I agree that if you're an African American, people expect you to be sympathetic to hatred. This country will never be free if we cannot get past the color of our skin. We are all human beings and should be respected as such. Also, is it expected that every White person who wasn't even born should be hated for their ancestor's mistakes and that goes for all races; We all have a sinful heritage. It's time to break the chains of slavery and bondage of the mind. Love God and our neighbor (black, red, yellow, white, purple).

God Bless...

Anon writes: "In my opinion Obama is now unelectable--and I am a Democrat."

I thought he took a huge step forwards with his speech because it was incredible and he actually spoke to us as if we were adults. And I'm a Libertarian. Funny how that works.

I feel there is too much hatred in America. I am a white American, but I have countless friends who are African-American. I don't hate them, nor do they hate me. People should be judged by the "content of their character", not by race. I get sick and tired of having to apologize for being born white and trying to live in peace.
Jack

In a set of "talking points" on the Trinity United Church of Christ web site, Wright proclaims himself an exponent of "black liberation theology." He cites James Cone, a distinguished professor at New York's Union Theological Seminary, whom he credits for having "systematized" this strain of Christianity.

Here is a quote from Cone, explaining black liberation theology:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

All of this is well documented and many find it very disturbing considering Rev. Wright's close relationship with Barack Obama and equally disturbing that Barack will not reject Wright.

You mentioned Cone as Wrights inspiration. I think the author of this article did a disservice by not letting the reader know more about him. To better understand the kind of black liberation theology which Obama has been soaking up for 20 years, here are just some of his quotes: (1) “To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." (6) "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Hello Jerry Hill,

I have no intention of interjecting in this thread, but....

You said : "How do you deal with the church and its remark, "Mother Africa" and its pledge to support it. Trinity is an African Church by mission."

It is held by scientists now that we all (human beings/homo sapiens) originated from Africa and migrated to every land on earth. Hence why not Mother Africa, the mother which gave birth to, and mankind sprang forth and multiply?

By the way, is there anything wrong with any church or secular organisation with a mission in Africa? Many Caucasian evangelical/missionary churches are actively operating in Africa. So is everyone from Bono of U2 to Bill Gates of Microsoft pledging and supporting various humanitarian aid programmes in Africa.

Why take on Trinity Church just because it is African-American, in pledging support to Africa? Jewish organisations do so for Israel. People of Indian origin all over the world do so for India too and sometimes refer to India as Mother India.

Is there anything wrong with Americans not from Europe to connect with, to remember and be proud of the heritage of their respective region of origin? Is not the religious and racial diversity of America a fact of life now? We all have dreams and hopes for our nations. Some of us may be frustrated that the ideals of our nations on paper is not translated into reality for us and thus angered. Some of us do damn our own countries for what we see as failing us, our hopes and aspirations.

By the way, for a wee glimpse on what Africans themselves think on how others think of and regard them, please Google up "How to Write about Africa" by Binyavanga Wainaina. I am sure it there for anyone who care to find and read it.

Thank you and best regards

"J"

Messiah,

Frankly, I don't care what color Christ is. I only know that salvation is in Him and in no other. I would just as easily bow before a black Christ as I would a Jewish Christ.

The best way to end racism is to be thoroughly apathetic about it. When I was a boy I had black, Filipino, Mexican and white friends. You wanna know what father had to say about it? Absolutely, nothing. No talk about the Civil Rights Movement or Martin Luther King. Nothing. Nada. Wanna know why? Because he frankly couldn't care any less, as long as they were good kids. That is how I was raised.

You see, I reject this idea of slavery being my original sin because I am white. Racism is an individual vice, not one that can be assigned to groups. Once you start assigning sins to groups instead of individuals, you perpetuate grievances indefinitely.

That is the problem with Jeremiah Wright. He cares way too much about what everybody's race is.

Providing we don't get blown up first,
the modern world will continue to move ahead,slowly,bit by bit.

Religion will eventually be discarded like an old snake's skin.
It will be left behind,to be studied in mythology classes at school.

People of the future will look back in amusement
at these superstitious times,
when intelligent well educated men would blow themselves up
believing a god in a fairyland called Paradise who will reward them
with everlasting life and bundles of virgins.
(And a president in the White House who believes
he talked to a god who advised him to invade Iraq.)

We have to have faith in a future without religion,
because while religion would hold us back,
forward momentum is unstoppable. Look at history.
Religion eventually gets out of the way, becomes marginalized, and dies.
But we may get blown up first if the religious wackos get
their hands on the big one; which is a definite possibility.

Reading some of these remarks you kind of wonder, have you been just sitting home all your life reading the news and sipping tea!! There was nothing racial that was said by Pastor Wright what he has spoke about is the truth that has been going on in this country and what is still going on. We are still the first to get fired and the last to be hired. Over 70% of black americans are in the poverty level. We have had the most on death row, 80% of the prisons are black. As a young black man I remember going into department stores and being followed around. What is wrong at looking at things that you wish you could have. It does not mean your going to take it!! Getting on a ellevator a white woman got off before her stop because we were alone etc. etc. It goes on and on but you get the idea and I still hear the "N" word being used.
So Sen. Obama is in a church with a Pastor who talks about the issues that deal with the problems of the nation. With issues that deal with black americans and our existence. Which one of you have not heard a family member or close friend speak about blacks in a negative way and are you still friends with them? You condemn the words but not the person, its your friend. You can agree to disagree!!!!

Reading some of these remarks you kind of wonder, have you been just sitting home all your life reading the news and sipping tea!! There was nothing racial that was said by Pastor Wright what he has spoke about is the truth that has been going on in this country and what is still going on. We are still the first to get fired and the last to be hired. Over 70% of black americans are in the poverty level. We have had the most on death row, 80% of the prisons are black. As a young black man I remember going into department stores and being followed around. What is wrong at looking at things that you wish you could have. It does not mean your going to take it!! Getting on a ellevator a white woman got off before her stop because we were alone etc. etc. It goes on and on but you get the idea and I still hear the "N" word being used.
So Sen. Obama is in a church with a Pastor who talks about the issues that deal with the problems of the nation. With issues that deal with black americans and our existence. Which one of you have not heard a family member or close friend speak about blacks in a negative way and are you still friends with them? You condemn the words but not the person, its your friend. You can agree to disagree!!!!

"Liberation Theology" did not originate in the Black churches in America.. It came from Latin America and has evolved into a Marxist ideology.

The Black Pastors and Christians I have known for over twenty years want NOTHING to do with this sort of "liberation".

They lead and attend multi-racial churches and work hard to improve the lives of ALL American people.

Please don't judge all Black American Christians by Pastor Wright and his congregation..

Reading some of these remarks you kind of wonder, have you been just sitting home all your life reading the news and sipping tea!! There was nothing racial that was said by Pastor Wright what he has spoke about is the truth that has been going on in this country and what is still going on. We are still the first to get fired and the last to be hired. Over 70% of black americans are in the poverty level. We have had the most on death row, 80% of the prisons are black. As a young black man I remember going into department stores and being followed around. What is wrong at looking at things that you wish you could have. It does not mean your going to take it!! Getting on a ellevator a white woman got off before her stop because we were alone etc. etc. It goes on and on but you get the idea and I still hear the "N" word being used.
So Sen. Obama is in a church with a Pastor who talks about the issues that deal with the problems of the nation. With issues that deal with black americans and our existence. Which one of you have not heard a family member or close friend speak about blacks in a negative way and are you still friends with them? You condemn the words but not the person, its your friend. You can agree to disagree!!!!

How do you deal with the church and its remark, "Mother Africa" and its pledge to support it. Trinity is an African Church by mission.

I must say I'm somewhat alarmed to hear that Newsweek was unable to find a black scholar or preacher who could see anything wrong in preaching racial divisiveness -- or anything wrong in a preacher telling his congregation that their government invented AIDS to kill black people, etc. I went to a black church for a while in college -- but when during black history month I started hearing sermon after sermon about how evil all white people are, rather than sermons about something like, say, Jesus and the way to live a Godly life, I realized it wasn't the place for me. I'm horrified to know that apparently all black churchgoers are supposed to become racist conspiracy theorists on Sunday mornings, not just the church I went to (which I had hoped was an anomaly).

I also question Obama's judgment -- that he'd not only closely ally himself but also choose to have his children subjected to such vitriol, things he now admits are wrong (guess he's not black enough to accept them entirely). Would someone with that kind of judgment be a good leader of the country? Of course, several journalists (black and non-black) have suggested he just joined that church to improve his "blackness" qualifications... It's alarming when either he's a corrupt political manouverer, just like Chicago politicians throughout history, or he actually agrees with all of this (as apparently, according to this article, black people are supposed to). Either way, he's not living up to his promise of post-racial hope and unity.

Barack Obama's gave one of the most powerful political speech in recent politic history.
The topic happened to be on the racial issues. The speech was inspirational, described in details the modern racial issues from an historical perspective, and will help unit more
americans: not all americans, but more. He laid a big step in the good direction. I would like to hear this type of speech (inspirational, historical and unifier) more often from politicians. I think that Obama would be a great president. He has already a positive impact on America and elsewhere in the world, serving as role model for many people, independently from the race, gender and religion.

Oh mighty Clinton, dost thou lie so low?

I pray there will be a healing between both groups. There are other issues that this nation is guilty of That this country deserves God's Judgement like abortion,abandening God, immorality, idoltry, etc . At the preaching of Jonah to Ninevah to Repent God spared that City. Pastor Wright I think it is better to Pray for this country to come back to God and for healing among our people. Like Abraham he negotiated with God if there are 50-10 rightous people will He spare the city of Sodom and Gamorrah? For the sake of the rightous Lord Please spare us. I can't remember which state was, Was it Virginia that made a public repentance to the Black citizens for the slavery?
I miss my brothers and sisters I've met at some of the COGIC churches in Chicago, Sister Pierce especially who went to Heaven a while back.
We need to stand in the midst of crisis. What can we do to get our economy back on track? If we don't work together, how can we heal?

Well,i just go by what Jesus revealed to me.[santus];He said the blind lead blind and they will fall in a ditch.He said Woe to you who laugh for you shall mourn.He said those who make wages will be toubled!!;Now turn on your tv and watch all the people who trusted in money mourning?The world taught you to cherish material things,but quess what God said,"Do you seek great things for yourself?Do not seek them,for behold,I will bring adversity on all flesh"!!;This is happening right now!!!;And to the person who said his friends would never hire a black person again,you just proved Rev. wright's statements to be true!!!;So,this is why God said"What the world despises I will use!!" AMEN

And God was looking down upon the pulpit and upon His child who was spewing hatred from the stands, under His name, in His church! And He said, 'Son, you and all those who partake of your fruits shall be punished for abusing My just cause. The hatred that you spew in private shall be brought forth. You shall give to Me your community's only real hope, its only real chance. And I shall keep that hope until you purge yourself of the bitterness.' And so it was done!

notice how in his eagerness to be black, not just "half-white", obama doesn't even flinch before throwing his poor white mother and grandparents under the bus at every single opportunity:

* "...and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe." - obama
* "...I might have written a different book—less a meditation on the absent parent, more a celebration of the one who was the single constant in my life." - obama

he should have given his "healing" speech to his church when he first heard their hatred, and saved us his lecture!

If all you have seen of Rev. Wright is the clips being shown on YouTube, I suggest that you go to http://www.tucc.org/ and read about Trinity UCC church. Be sure to watch the video of the white woman who is a member of Trinity UCC. Of course, it's much easier and intellectually lazy to get your opinions from the talking heads on TV rather than use "the Google" to look things up for yourself.

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with Trinity UCC in any way. I do not live in Chicago, and I am not a Christian. I am an Obama supporter, but mostly because I don't like Hillary.

And God was looking down upon the pulpit and upon His child who was spewing hatred from the stands, under His name, in His church! And He said, 'Son, you and all those who partake of your fruits shall be punished for abusing My just cause. The hatred that you spew in private shall be brought forth. You shall give to Me your community's only real hope, its only real chance. And I shall keep that hope until your bitterness goes away.' And so it was done!

I don't believe that we need a racist and a liar who is pro-abortion in the White House. Farewell Mr. Obama.

I don't believe that we need a racist and a liar who is pro-abortion in the White House. Farewell Mr. Obama.

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You Ms. Miller - are a sickening white racist. You allow whites to be racist - yet Scandalize Reverand Wright for speaking the truth.

What about Jerry Falwell and all of those white pastors for whom racism is status quo and unchallenged by the likes of you?

Are you so cynical as to deny that hate begets hate?

Reverand White's viewpoints don't emanate from an abyss - they are a reaction to white racism.

I am a white man. I am not rich by corporate standards, but I am most certainly rich by black inner city standards. Let me tell you a little bit about my rich white man story.

My grand father immigrated from Scotland to the plains of
Saskatchewan, Canada.The government had offered land in the vast outback to those who could cultivate it. It was three days buckboard ride from the nearest settlement. What you cultivate you keep. You also get near arctic winter. You get the shelter you make. You get the food you provide. The first year you have until winter to go from windy wilderness to shelter and provision. The one you can count on is yourself. The thing that you will count on or die is your character. If you think it wasn’t like this, you are wrong. This is as true as black slavery.

My grandfather did not own a slave, and did not even know about slavery, except back where he came from, which was a land of difficulty, for him. Many have known difficulties. He did not realize that, even unknowingly, he already had his foot on the black mans neck. How or why he chose the black man out of all those closer to his own world that he could have held down, I just don't know. Plain bad luck for the black man. Imagine where the black man could be today, if not for my grandfather.

My father was born prematurely when my grandmother fell off the corral fence. It was hard to keep him alive. There was no one to help.

They came to the United States of America because happiness could be found here by a man with character, for himself and his family.

My father served his country in a humble yet noble capacity. His career was with the United States Coast Guard. A military organization. His job was to save lives even at the risk of his own, and he did. He saved even black lives, and his life was saved by a black man. He did not know that his foot was on the black mans neck. It was bad luck for the black man.

I am sixty years old now with grandchildren. I have ridden on the black mans neck, and held him down, beyond all others, for the sake of my grandchildren, who have no other way through this life (that we all briefly wrestle). They could not make it without the unique stepping stone necks of the paralyzed blacks.

I suppose it is pure bad luck for the black man. The white man made the United States of America. They came in waves. Each wave was persecuted by others. The Chinese were slaves of the railroad. The Japanese were somewhat disliked during and after after WW2. The Vietnamese were or enemies. The illegal immigrants gladly take any work they can. There has always been a line to kill Jews. Where are these people today in the United States of America? They rise, they contribute, their children profit, they are guided by character. They don’t know that they have their foot on the black mans neck.

Bad luck for the black man I suppose.

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March 18, 2008 10:18 PM

Very interesting article, Lisa to see how other Black churches view the statements.

Sad to say in reading the comments you can tell who is white and I guess bringing up the KKK makes it a bit obvious.

Some people will never change or believe in the process of change and are so quick to judge and label people. No one is perfect. I'm not and none of the commentators are either. Obama's a liar and they have neve told a lie or broken the law by speeding? I am also certain that they all have a friend, peer, family member who is racist esp. from the older generation when America was filled with racial inequality. My parents remember being told that only blacks sit in the back of the bus but they could sit in the front or going into a restaurant and being turned away b/c "we don't serve Mexicans here." Note: they aren't Mexican but have a dark tan from working in the sun.

I guess because our culture has diminished personal responsibility, we cannot believe that Obama or anyone else can totally disagree with a friend, family member, etc. A good friend of mine has a brother who went to jail, does that make him bad b/c of guilt by association? My uncle doesn't like white people because he was put in an intern camp (prison) while his son fought in WWII for the U.S. My best friend is white and I have a ton of friends who are white, black, yellow, brown, etc. I don't share the same view as my uncle. But, I also did suffer as he did.

The critics should go to a minority church, live in the hood, walk a mile in the shoes of those they judge so quickly and their mind will open to a new world. There's a much deeper message in Obama's speech that escapes simple minds.

Very interesting article, Lisa to see how other Black churches view the statements.

Sad to say in reading the comments you can tell who is white and I guess bringing up the KKK makes it a bit obvious.

Some people will never change or believe in the process of change and are so quick to judge and label people. No one is perfect. I'm not and none of the commentators are either. Obama's a liar and they have neve told a lie or broken the law by speeding? I am also certain that they all have a friend, peer, family member who is racist esp. from the older generation when America was filled with racial inequality. My parents remember being told that only blacks sit in the back of the bus but they could sit in the front or going into a restaurant and being turned away b/c "we don't serve Mexicans here." Note: they aren't Mexican but have a dark tan from working in the sun.

I guess because our culture has diminished personal responsibility, we cannot believe that Obama or anyone else can totally disagree with a friend, family member, etc. A good friend of mine has a brother who went to jail, does that make him bad b/c of guilt by association? My uncle doesn't like white people because he was put in an intern camp (prison) while his son fought in WWII for the U.S. My best friend is white and I have a ton of friends who are white, black, yellow, brown, etc. I don't share the same view as my uncle. But, I also did suffer as he did.

The critics should go to a minority church, live in the hood, walk a mile in the shoes of those they judge so quickly and their mind will open to a new world. There's a much deeper message in Obama's speech that escapes simple minds.

Race or church was less a factor until Obama focused on race and church in South Carolina and a few other state inorder to achieve a large African American base vote. It was his decision to focus on race and church. Now that the electorate is focused he'd like to lecture them on race. Obama is not colorblind. He's color opportunistic.

Nicely written, thoughtful, thank you.

I don't see how Wright is really any different from any other fire and brimstone preacher. I happen not to believe in an angry god, but plenty of Americans white and black do believe in this god-- and that's the God he was speaking of. It's really not any different than my white fundamentalist grandmother who read to me revelations when I was 7 years old. Hateful stuff, that. But she was the sweetest person I've ever known.

Race is the sleeping monster in this country.

Nicely written, thoughtful, thank you.

I don't see how Wright is really any different from any other fire and brimstone preacher. I happen not to believe in an angry god, but plenty of Americans white and black do believe in this god-- and that's the God he was speaking of. It's really not any different than my white fundamentalist grandmother who read to me revelations when I was 7 years old. Hateful stuff, that. But she was the sweetest person I've ever known.

Race is the sleeping monster in this country.

There is no doubt that there is racism in the "white community" against blacks. But Jeremiah Wright makes it clear that there is racism in his life and church against whites. Neither is any good.

Wright's statements that HIV was invented by the Federal Government for use against blacks, is a simple paranoid rant. This man may have done good works in his career, but teaching fear and hate is no Christian virtue. Taking God's name in vane from the pulpit to damn America is no Christian virtue either. All racists, Christian or not, and of all colors, need to repent of it.

Perhaps Barack Obama can bring the issue to the point where people of good will can openly discuss the full dimensions of the racism problems in America. He has repudiated Wright's bad statements and I hope he can return to his positive and hopeful campaign message. It is much needed.

"Black Americans have set themselves back by decades for their stance on this issue. You've awakened a sleeping Giant"

What are you going to do? Enslave us again? We are like cockroaches; WE SURVIVE EVERYTHING. We can make war or we can make peace- it's a choice.

Messiah, the weevils of delusion have gobbled your brain. Have you written your own dribble dribble, two legged sickness that you are? Bizarre!

Katie -

Your comment was VERY offensive, reeks of underlying hate, and has no place on these boards. I am NOT an Obama supporter but that was totally out of line!

Lisa - I am continuing to keep my finger on the pulse of all these comments. You TOTALLY hit a home run with this story! My hope is that you will continue to stay focused on this throughout the rest of this campaign. We need responsible journalism and up until now, have barely seen it. THANK YOU for providing something factual and worth reading I.e raw and undisputed data!

We should lynch them? Oh the good ole days.

The following passages are from Dr. Raphael's book Jews and Judaism in the United States: A Documentary History (New York: Behrman House, Inc., Pub, 1983), pp. 14, 23-25.

"Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave auctions were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated.

"This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the 'triangular trade' that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750's, David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760's, and Aaron Lopez of Newport in the late 1760's and early 1770's dominated Jewish slave trading on the American continent."

Yes Craig, we are getting a better idea of what the black church experience is like. This has been a huge eye opener for Non-Black America. Blacks want to blame White America for every problem in their life. I feel sorry for successful blacks because they become outcasts for even considering moving to a white area of town and having white friends.

I had an interesting conversation with two friends that own businesses yesterday, between the two they have over 125 employees and probably average $18 per hour for entry level jobs. Both of them told me they will never hire another black person again. Until yesterday, I'd never heard them talk negatively about African Americans. They are shaken by the "In your face" stance by Black America's refusal to condemn Pastor Wright's controversial sermons.

Most Non-Blacks that go into the voting booth for the general election will not cast their vote for Obama. Black Americans have set themselves back by decades for their stance on this issue. You've awakened a sleeping Giant.

First of all,Jesus was black[genealogy of Jesus[matthew1[8],2chronicles21[16];So was king david and soloman!!;In genesis 15[13-14],God told abram that his decendants[black people]in the usa would suffer in a land they did not know!;The webster dictionary defines ethiopia as a black person!!!;Also in 2chronicles is a example of 9/11:Not placing God first above everthing!!!
Jesus said you can't serve God and money,either you love one and hate the other!![isaiah19[10]:Now you know why your money is funny!!!;You made it you're god,and thought it would save you from the wrath of God!![foreclosures] So,if you have a problem with a black person being the head and not the tail,tell you're kids not to celebrate easter,because they will be worshipping a black man's resurrection!!!{sadducees[black people who collaborate with white rulers to maintain their favorable status!!};Jesus called them cowards!!!

At first, Obama said he didn't hear Wright's racist comments. If he did, he said he would have a direct conversation with Wright about it (which is a blurry statement by Obama - what does he mean by "conversation"?). And now, Obama says that he did hear racist comments by Wright. Liar, liar. Why said "didn't hear" and now says "did hear"? Liar at his best. Yet, Americans are buying this. Americans think Obama is sincere. If a white person does that to you, do you call it sincere? It reminds me of the 5 different comments he made about NAFTA to the Ohio people.

Why don't we have Polls that ask: Who is more racist, Obama or Hillary? I bet u that 70% Americans will think Obama is more racist, after the revelation that Obama has been a Wright's member for more than 20 looooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggg years, married his wife under Wright's so-called "blessing," and baptized (I still wonder if it was a holy baptize or an unholy baptize) his two daughters (poor girls - they might later regret that they were baptized by an unholy racist Wright). If one disagrees with the pastor on a major social issue (racist sermons are a major issue), one cannot and should not listen to the pastor; what Obama should have done at least 15 years ago was to find a different pastor to listen to. The truth is: Obama failed to reject Wright in those 20 or more years while actually honored Wright with his commentary in his book "Audacity of Hope." The main tenet of Wright was about doing everything for the black community, black families, black schools, black...., black..., blackkk. Also, Wright instills hatred of America in his followers. Talk to his followers and you will see. They all want to burn down this nation (the U.S. of course) and set up a new Black-Powered government: government by the blacks, for the blacks, of the blacks, and with the blacks.

Until recent events, I thought he was someone who may not be so quite biased.

As a white guy, hearing that these sentiments are mainstream to this extent, and being passed onto the youth that are supposed to break down these barriers, is quite disturbing.

If only his affiliation to this type of old school mentality werent true..

What a sad loss. I really hoped he was someone who would be able to focus on the economics of the country instead of race. Cart before the horse people....

Rev. Wright is an agitator and his words frighten many white people, but can anyone with a reasonably functional brain deny that what he describes still exists in our country? Just read this blog and you'll find the haters out there, still vigorous in their hatred, still active, still spewing bile, except now they can't quite bring themselves to spew the N word-- it's no longer acceptable, except in private, among their own circles--only the underlying hatred is still acceptable. So instead, they do what the Klan and even the closet bigots do when they want to appear "civil." They attack character, they make sweeping statements without evidence that "he's just no good" when in fact what they're saying is "his color terrifies me, and in my fear I'll find whatever means I can to tear him down." It's sad. Pitiful. A stain on our great nation.

Rev. Wright isn't the point; he's a distraction, a brilliant, angry man who has chosen to stir the hearts and restore the dignity of a beaten-down people, a mission that sometimes requires drastic means. If it isn't your church and isn't your issue, it isn't your business.

You don't have anyone in your circle who's ever been over the top? Should we judge you by your dim-witted uncle or your racist friend? Not that that uncle or friend is comparable to a man who has dedicated his life to lifting his community. The Trinity Church community is not yours to tear down. Unless you walk in the shoes of a man who couldn't even use a "white" drinking fountain in his adulthood without being BEATEN for doing so, in AMERICA, you have nothing to say. Nothing that is, unless you're a cynic or a hater and desperately need another reason to revile, without any foundation except for your hateful preconceptions, the accomplished black United States senator who is just so much smarter and better and less cynical than you that it hurts.

Read Sen. Obama's speech with an open heart and an open mind. In it he negotiates, with remarkable compassion, the complex, fearsome state of race relations in America. I've ever heard it more brilliantly described. He does it with hope and grace, so much so that this white boy from Northern Arizona wept when he read it. I wept with sadness for how much remains undone and with hope for what we might become, with the right leadership and direction. This is a great man with a clear vision, a man with love in his heart who is also a realist and, potentially, a leader of historic proportion. I just pray that hate doesn't over-run him. If it does, we all will lose.

"Obama was sitting quietly in church while his pastor denounced America and spewed racial epithets. Why didn't Obama find this reprehensible and unacceptable and find another church?"

He answered that he said he has heard racial language from his white grandmother but he still loved her. He didn't walk out on her.

Is Obama one step closer to something like
Michelle O said -- first time in her life …

Nice article, Lisa.

Great article and thank you for it.
We need a better idea of what the black church
experience is like..and why. Obama's speech today made my family (in LA) very grateful for his wisdom and willingness to impart that..in serious measure...like someone who could/should be the next President of the United States. His braveness this morning with his own written words...words not finished until 2AM in the morning..was inspiring as well as helpful, and, imo, guarantees Barack an even greater respect as the Presidential frontrunner going forward from here.
Thank's again for your article,
The Doerge Family

Obama, his supporters and Wright apologists spend all their effort explaining why it is ‘understandable’ for Wright to speak this way. All of these reasons are based on the historical inequality and oppression of ‘blacks’ and their suffering in America at the hand of ‘whites’.

However take this does nothing to explain Wright’s virulent anti-Semitism (Judeophobia). The Jews were not involved in the slave trade. It is this ‘unexplained’, recurrent and rabid racism in his ‘preaching’ that clearly indicates a darker current of thought. The hatred of Jews espoused by Wright’s movement cannot be excused away by reference to ‘black’ history. Obama has not explained the reasons for White’s anti-Semitic (Judeophobic) rants either. He wants to skate over it and ‘move on’.

If you find yourself characterising all of a ‘people’ or ‘race’ with any quality, you are being racist and intellectually retarded. This is why racists lost the wars of slavery and also the Second World War; and this is why people are so concerned about the effect 20 years of White’s preaching has had on one of the three potential candidates for President.

Great article and thank you for it!
We all need a better idea of what the black church
experience is like and why it is such. Today's speech made us very grateful for this remarkable young man who could/should be the next President of the United States. His braveness this morning.. with his own written words on little sleep has guaranteed him great such respect going forward.
Thank again for your good article,
The Doerges

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Obama's Church of Contradictions
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LETTER TO SENATOR BARACK OBAMA
Montreal, February 20, 2008
SENATOR OBAMA ,
The whole world has its eyes on you, on The United States Of America and its people.
Everyone expects you to be democratically elected and see that something happen in America.
In March 1983, one of humanity's most famous spokesmen, Pope John Paul II, came to our country - 'Haîti' - and loudly proclaimed what each and every one of us had been whispering:
'Something must change here.'
Today, more than ever, a lot of people of The United States of America stand up, longing for something and working to make something happen.
And, like in March 9, 1983, beloved Haiti, History - (which from then and now on rests in thy hands) - tells thee: "it is now time to let people speak to thee of love!', let's say today': 'Go thou America ahead and show us thy true countenance in a positive light.' It is up to everyone to play his or her part in order to let thee regain thy mark of excellence !"
With this letter, I am communicating with You, Senator Obama, and with the whole people of The United States of America.
You offer this country what it takes to be a 'Wonderfull Land.' Yes, let us say 'with a great people living together.'
Go thou, America, go ahead, following in the footsteps of one of thy sons who is now becoming one of thy statesmen.
With this in mind, Mr.Obama, to whom else could I entrust this letter sent to his Holiness Pope John Paul II when he set foot on Haitian soil for the first time, as well as its acknowledgment by the Vatican?
That letter to Pope John Paul II is intended to draw attention to the problem posed by anti-Black discrimination and its negative repercussions on the advancement of scientific progress in the West, and more precisely in the realm of Optics.
In the Western world, according to Newton's widely accepted theory, white is considered to be the synthesis of all colors. Actually, the opposite is true. White constitutes the analysis or 'visible' decoding of light or color, whereas black is its synthesis or 'invisible' composition.
In other words, darkness or blackness and, we might add, "Black Holes'"- a scientific misnomer designating invisible stars or 'Black Suns' - are a source of energy and light.
That basic raw material of light energy culminates, in its most radiant form, in the neutralization of all the colors of the spectrum in the form of so-called "white light."
Therefore "absolute blackness", the absorption of all the colors, is a divisible component of light. Needless to say, Newton's theory gives only a partial interpretation of the notion of light, by excluding black. Our contribution aims at demonstrating that the black color is not only an integral part of the color process, but its true synthesis. Light is therefore shown to be a divisible whole comprising an intensity or color scale in which black is the invisible or 'absorbed' form of the energy in question.
Allow me, Senator Obama, in order to support my statement concerning Black Holes and radiation, to pose a question asked by Hubert Reeves, Doctor of nuclear astrophysics and Scientific Consultant to NASA:
What would have become of the Sun, if it were plunged into a high temperature radiance like the one that existed at the beginning of the Universe? [our translation]
Instead of emitting light, it would absorb it and, in the end, it would be completely reabsorbed into the cosmic fluid.
The cosmic fluid is what, due to an "optical mistake", is called "darkness" or the "blackness of space". We are talking about the electromagnetic flux, that immeasurable ocean in which the planets and stars are bathed, like the sea which links all the continents together. Darkness is thus "The Sea of Space."
"What would have happened if, instead of an ordinary star like the "White Sun", a Black Hole or "Black Sun" were injected into that primordial radiation?
"According to Einsteinian Physics, a Black Hole is a place where gravity is so formidably intense that nothing can escape it, not even visible light. Such a hole should suck in and absorb radiation and increase its own mass: E=MC2, always."
"But after Einstein came Bohr, Heisenberg, and Quantum Physic. From then on, nothing was the same as before.
"The Einsteinian version of the Black Hole is equivalent to a statement that the matter inside the Black Hole is definitely there to stay, in that volume of space. Let us quote Hubert Reeves: "Such an absolute statement is thus contrary to the "Quantum spirit", affirming that nothing is definitely localized in one place. There is always a probability of escape. If the enclosing wall is too high, a tunnel will be dug; if the prisoners are patient, they will escape. One has only to wait. [our translation]"
"According to that principle, Black Holes "evaporate." Matter constantly escapes as radiation. Black Holes "shine!" Their surfaces behave like those of any body heated to a certain temperature and that radiation endlessly feeds that marvelous "Cosmic Fluid" which, wrongly and in bad faith, people keep calling "Darkness."
Nigra sum "sed" formosa. Yes, but should we not say instead, I am black "and" comely? Darkness, which is both source and vehicle of light, does not have to defend itself for being the beautiful and infinitely discreet raw material of the Universe. Darkness is the "Mother of the Universe."
Also, beautiful and discreet art thou, Haiti. Discreet, yes, but never outshone! Just like the Black Virgin who inspires and sheds her love on thee from the hilltop and even beyond Cité Soleil (Sun City).
Our purpose was to offer a more constructive approach aiming at correcting the abusive traditional, so-called scientific, theories of Optics. That is why, we wrote to that authentic witness to the signs of this age, His Holiness Pope John Paul II, the prophet of the new era.
Congratulations to You, Sir, and congratulations to the people of The United States Of America, for having made it possible for this day to mark the beginning of a "New Era of Hope !"
Lucien Bonnet
PLease, SEE :
LETTER TO POPE JOHN-PAUL II
in 'BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca
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WESTERN UNIVERSALISM
"Color cannot be understood except in relation to the person who perceives it," physicist Pierre Demers wrote in the Foreword to this book entitled "BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !". He clearly confirms the relevance of this essay. First of all, in fact, we thought it would be useful to consider the civilizational (politico-religious) attitude of the West toward the Blacks, before pointing out the deficiencies of present-day science, which is predominantly Western, in its perception of the Black Universe.
The Western political attitude toward the Blacks has for many centuries been determined by the perverse ruler-servant, master-slave, exploiter-exploited relationship. In order to normalize its policy of enslaving Blacks, Judeo-Christian civilization went so far as to use Christianity to legitimize what today we generally call "crimes against humanity", such as the racist slavery peculiar to the West. That situation was facilitated by the fact that the monotheistic religion, which had originally been universalist, soon limited its horizons to the boundaries of the Western world, while the other peoples — which it thought it had attracted — seemed to find themselves there in spite of themselves. Some might wonder whether the abandonment by the West of Christian universalism does not explain that inability of Judeo-Christian civilization to adopt a universalist attitude, not only in the political but also in the scientific realm.
As a matter of fact, present-day science, dominated for a few centuries by the West, can hardly claim to be "universal", since it is so deeply affected by the Westerners who perceive it. These people have — as we all know — lost any authentically universalist dimension. Did they not, by using and misusing the Bible, attempt to prove the superiority of Western Whites over Blacks and other colored peoples, limiting there too the vast universalist horizons of science to the very boundaries of the West? Everything seems to indicate that science is no longer universal; it is "Western", with all the consequences that implies for humanity and, in particular, for the Black world.
In other words, the Western approach, the Western way of thinking, is far from being scientific, neutral and objective; it is subjective and distorting. Such subjectivity and distortion manifest themselves still more obviously, as we have seen, in the realm of colors, and more specifically when dealing with the concept of "black". One must therefore bring into play the social sciences — history, sociology, psychology, psychoanalysis, political science, etc. — to understand that Western handicap. Indeed, as soon as it has to deal with "black", Western reasoning vacillates, making room for the irrational and its array of fantasies.
The author of the Foreword to this book, a physicist, under went a conversion in 1974, where by he would from then on wholly devote himself to the study of colors. He says that he has been attracted more and more strongly by the multidisciplinary and deeply human nature of the study of colors. He states that the "rational comprehension of colors cannot have the necessary depth, unless all the sciences are called upon: chemistry, biology, physiology, physics, and mathematics”. He even insists: “Once more the human aspect intervenes. Man is both the creator and the necessary vehicle of all sciences. It is doubly true that there is no rational knowledge of color outside of mankind." He thus admits, as we do, though in a roundabout way, that the present understanding of colors leaves much to be desired. Is it not strongly influenced by the dominant contemporary civilization, polluted so long by prejudices against peoples of color, especially Blacks?
Such a serious Western handicap obviously hinders the forward march of universal science as well as that of all mankind. Both are victims of a racist — and therefore anti-scientific, selfish and limited — vision of the world. The case of Haiti, to use an example with which we are very familiar, is a symptom of the non-universalistic attitude of those who rule the world — the Westerners. Although it may still be possible to scientifically correct the erroneous vision of "blackness" fairly quickly, it is much more difficult to improve human behavior from one day to the next, since mentalities evolve rather slowly. In the meantime, we cannot help being aware that the West keeps dragging around its heavy burden of anti-Black prejudice, and that attitude is detrimental to both the Western and Black worlds.
Has not the West, in its relations with the "peoples of color", always supported rulers who are docile slaves to itself, but tyrants to their own peoples?
Be that as it may, like present-day science, whose universalism is now quite questionable, does not the reality of Western world politics distance itself from universalism to plunge into a quasi-particularism aiming only at the promotion and supremacy of the White world?
It is right to quote the universalist Greek philosopher Anaxagoras, who states that "the visible opens our eyes to the invisible". Science, just like color, cannot be understood outside of the person who perceives it.
Lucien Bonnet
PLease, SEE :
"LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON"
in "BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !"
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca

Interesting Dana you should consider a career in fiction. Near as I can tell the only difference between Jeremiah Wright and the Grand Dragon of the KKK is the color of the skin of the people they hate. The lies they tell to support their equally odious positions are different only in subject matter not in their degree of separation from the truth.

Obama is a member of a Black version of the KKK, he only lies better.

He is a member of a so called church that preaches hate, segregation, and believes white people are the devil. If he was white every single member for the DNC would call for him to step down…

I'm struck by the fact that no one has yet to recognize or acknowledge how white people have used religion to promote and justify their own hatred towards people who are perceived as different. For centuries, white people used the Bible to justify the Crusades, slavery and colonialism the world over which was far more destructive, divisive and deadly than anything that has come from Rev. Jeremiah Wright's pulpit. Dr. King spoke about the white church hiding behind the safety of stained glass windows instead of confronting injustice in their community and country. He also wondered what kind of Christians worshipped behind those same windows and then went out to burn crosses, bomb and lynch human beings. Think about the ugliness and hatred many white priests and pastors have promulgated for thousands of years before pointing a finger at the Black Church and having the temerity to say that it, rather than white America, has explaining to do.

In Obama’s words: We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she's playing the race card or we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies

Does that mean Both Clinton AND McCain are playing race card?
So far who got more than 85% votes from a single ethnic group?

This whole race, religion talk suddenly becomes the top subject in what is supposed to be a campaign for a new Predident of the USA.

Obama, as far as I am concerned would do better on a street corner influencing the young and those who cannot decide for themselves who and what they are. This speech has no place in a campaign for President, No matter what your beliefs are, the issue is not religion the issues are who can be the best President for the USa and the citizens of the USA.

I do not believe one darn thing this man says, and he is only speaking because of secrets that he has been hiding and have come to the surface.

He displays self importance and never talks about what the real world is to millions of people hurting . A complete waste of people's time and dreams. Lets hear what he is proposing politically, for our economy, oil prices health insurance, and how to stop the killing of our young people and let him keep his personal beliefs where they belong. Not in the Media!

Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright

Why is it that when society's prominent people in power at government levels are allowed to have freedom of speech about anything they want? When a Mayor of Chicago years ago issued a order shoot to kill, and there were no big headlines! In addition, when his son was running for Mayor, the media did not make a big issue out of this. This was really a horrific statement, ("Shoot to Kill"). There have been other occasions such as, the "Hurricane Katrina" sega. They were setting curfews for some people and not others, they shooting to kill some who did not keep the curfew and allowed others the liberty to travel as they pleased.

Rev. J. Wright is only telling the people the truth about what is happening right now, and what has happened in the past. The minister is historically correct.

We need to stop trying to paint a picture of someone as being racial or bad. How can we make statements about something, that we don't know nothing about? There is a difference between speaking evil/untruths and practicing evil deeds, than speaking truths and practicing good deeds.

Better yet, if the media would spread good tiding instead of bad, then the world would be much better.

I know you will not pring this, but I will write anyway!

Thank You,
Dana

Great speech; it made me cry. I have never heard a politician express the rage and anger of the black community so openly; our story has never been told so openly. There were several spots in the speech where I said there goes the white vote then I remembered Obama is giving America his ture authentic self and some of it will be a bit salty but it is up to us to grab the opportunity he is offering. My daughter's bestfriend is a little white girl named Shelly; they love each other like sisters (they are both 8 years old). She has this little white girl for a friend AFTER she was told by little white girls at her previous school that Barbies were not for for little black girls. She hold no animosity about what happened, because when she met this little white girl who shared her interest and sweetness, she was willing to accept her as an individual. I know I for one am so ready to address issues of race and how they operate in our society so we can move on to our more perfect union. I am heartened by the young people who are willing to make our country better than the generations that have come before it. America has a singular opportunity to move past our divisions by acknowledging the hurt and seeking true equity in all things. Part of me certainly wished Obama would have come out and did the politician thing you know said whatever it took to get elected. The end would justify the means but when I voted for him I knew I was voting for a different kind of politician and that requires an authenticity/integrity that is not always expedient. I am so proud of his courage.

Only Blacks can talk and benefit from race issue. Whites can not talk. If you talk, you will be labeled as racist. The FACT is IT WAS Obama WHO invoked MLK, and then he benefited from 85%-90% Black voters. Now his 20 years pastor backfires. So he has to talk again to benefit him again. Smart Politician outsmarts American People. From the speech, he says the ANGER IS REAL. It can conclude that he knew his pastor racial comments before, but he claimed he did not know before. He lied. He said Rekzo only raised $150,000, now he said Rekzo raised $250,000. He lied again. Can any one believe his house deal and donation with no favor in mind for Rekzo. Maybe so, maybe not yet, But one thing for sure, if this thing not came out, Rekzo would have favored from him, just a matter of time and timing.
Can anyone accept huge money from someone without offering something back? I need a DREAM to have someone give me some money for free.

About race in American, I want ask a question to everyone: If a Black, a White, an Asian American, they have the same SAT scores, what do you think WHO WILL GO TO COLLEGE AND HAS SCHOLARSHIP, if only one of them will be awarded?
The answer IS ?

Politician As Usual.

Only Blacks can talk and benefit from race issue. Whites can not talk. If you talk, you will be labeled as racist. The FACT is IT WAS Obama WHO invoked MLK, and then he benefited from 85%-90% Black voters. Now his 20 years pastor backfires. So he has to talk again to benefit him again. Smart Politician outsmarts American People. From the speech, he says the ANGER IS REAL. It can conclude that he knew his pastor racial comments before, but he claimed he did not know before. He lied. He said Rekzo only raised $150,000, now he said Rekzo raised $250,000. He lied again. Can any one believe his house deal and donation with no favor in mind for Rekzo. Maybe so, maybe not yet, But one thing for sure, if this thing not came out, Rekzo would have favored from him, just a matter of time and timing.
Can anyone accept huge money from someone without offering something back? I need a DREAM to have someone give me some money for free.

About race in American, I want ask a question to everyone: If a Black, a White, an Asian American, they have the same SAT scores, what do you think WHO WILL GO TO COLLEGE AND HAS SCHOLARSHIP, if only one of them will be awarded?
The answer IS…?

Politician As Usual.

What is most shocking about Wright's remarks is not that they were racist, but that they were so profoundly ignorant. Speaking self serving lies to power is not speaking truth to power. The U. S. Govenment did not invent AIDS as a tool to commit genocide against people of color, Jesus was not a black man in a land ruled by whites, nor was his argument with the Romans. Furthermore, the Romans were not Italians. This imbecile apparently knows nothing of European history between the fall of the Roman Empire and founding of the modern Italian nation. What Bible is he reading? His rhetoric had but one end and that was to confirm and support the self rightous, ignorant predjudices of his audience. There seems to be a segment of the African-American population that believes that no matter how brain dead their cultural beliefs, no matter how revolting their behavior, it can be rationalized by the fact that their ancestors were brought to this country as slaves. In other words, they are convinced that they have a right to permanent victim status. People who believe this are capable of anything without the slightest twinge of conscience. They are a class of sociopath. Would they prefer that their ancestors, who suffered much, had remained in Africa, so that instead of Americans, they would now be Africans? In which country would they like to reside? They are all hell holes. It is impossible to satisfy their needs or to insulate them from the consequences of their stupidities. Rather than believing that, as individuals, they can transcend racial stereotypes in concert with others doing the same, they wrap their individual trashiness in victimhood. Black skin, in this country, is a dubious indicator of race. Victimhood, however, is an condition that stains clear to the bone.

I am black, and I will no longer support obama.
For Rev. Wright to think the things he does is just amazing. If Rev. Wright think the US is so bad, then he should move.

“I think if a person is a prophet and he’s not seen as ever crossing a line, then he has not told the truth as it ought to be told.”

OMG they view this Preacher as a prophet!?!

Well, between this and Obama flat out saying that in order for this country to move forward we need to address these issues, he pretty much summed up his 4 years in office as a Civil Rights guy. Not Economy, not foreign policy..Because thats pretty much the only thing he will have time for between kissing butts around the world and trying to run for re-election.

By the way, I wonder how all those special interest groups, funding his campain, got him to say it with a straight face every time he brings it up. If it werent for them he would have no primary season or a political career whatsoever.

Because American's have a tendency to not know their own history nor what goes on in many churches every Sunday, they are shocked by pastoral judgment of ethical attitudes and behavior and historical events and government policy. The United Church of Christ, the descendant denomination of the one of the earliest churches of America has been critical of the status quo since the beginning. Congregational churches fostered the attitudes about the Divine rights of individuals versus the conventional "Divine right of monarchs, led to the American Revolution. One Sunday a pastor gave a stirring sermon denouncing British policy in America culminating in his tearing off his robe to reveal a continental army officer uniform and called for drummers to beat to the signing up of recruits to fight the British. Abolition and emancipation issued from Congregational pulpits and pews. Congregational ministers and lay persons marched with MLK in Selma. United Church of Christ pastors often preach sermons critical of US history and policy including slavery, genocide, internment, nuclear holocaust, failure to address the holocaust or rescue Jews during WW11...the list goes on. The church's job is not only to address issues of personal salvation and individual spiritual growth but also to hold all institutions of society to God's standard. This often leads to the conclusion that certain events are the result of God's negative judgement on institutions or the society that supports them. Abraham Lincoln was well within this "preaching" tradition when he asked if it might be possible that the Civil war would not end until "every drop of blood shed by the taskmaster's lash was atoned for by blood shed by the sword."

This same tradition was evident in the statements by some Christian Fundamentalists that 9/11 was God's judgement on a secular society. Rev. Wright's statement about "chickens coming home to roost was also in this tradition. Is this ever appropriate? As questions of course. No one can make a categorical statement about what God's hand might be in any event or what God's motivation might be in any circumstance. No one knows the mind of God. But the tradition of the judgement and condemnations of Old Testament prophets and of Jesus cannot help but cause us to question what might be the will of God in significant situations. So was Abraham Lincoln right about his surmise, or the Fundamentalists or Rev. Wright? That is up to you to judge. Congregationalists (the United Church of Christ) have always insisted that it is your responsibility before God to make choices about your responses about what you hear. If you were a loyalist during that 18th Century church service/recruiting session, you would have vehemently disagreed with what your pastor did, but would have been unlikely to abandon your church which was spiritual family to you.
As a nation we celebrate MLK, yet are we aware of his highly critical remarks concerning racial attitudes or the attitudes toward the poor or government policy during the Vietnam war?
The tradition goes back to Alexis de Tocqueville and his affirmation that "America is great because America is good"...and America is good because "righteousness blazes forth from its pulpits." The America represented by the scribbling and chattering classes has no patience for those calling into question America's automatic assumption of goodness. Too many claim an automatic "God Bless America" forgetting that both the song by that name and the national hymn are both prayers. They entreat the Deity to crown the "good" of nature's blessing with our obedience of brotherhood.
The hymn pleas for God to "Amend America's every flaw and to confirm its soul in self-control." As Karl Menniger asked, "Whaterver Became of Sin." Whatever became of openness to a call to national repentance?

I think it is sad, in this country, that people vote based on speeches like this one.
Ginger M. talked about it bringing her to tears and what would we do to J.F.K. or M.L.K. right now?
J.F.K. would be construed as unfit for office.
M.L.K. would be considered a radical, maybe a person of "change", but too biased toward one race.
Tearful drawing speeches are nice, but they have nothing to do with whether a person can run a country, as it should be run, for ALL the people and with little racial bias.
Obama is good at picking his words for his speeches, but has proven that he isn't the person that he has proclaimed himself to be.
In this week, he waited longer than the norm and then said that he wasn't at those racially biased and anti-American sermons.
Today it's a different story.
What's that mean?
More than likely, he found out that he is on some video, or some people are going to come forward and say that he was there.
Many people who voted for him in the primaries will not be voting for him in November, due to this and other issues that have come up with him since they cast their ballots. Remember that many of his voters are first time voters. They are not as forgiving as people with more life experience.
He hasn't much of a chance of being elected anymore.
He, always, wants to "move forward" when confronted on things that are messing up his campaign.
I'm not against that.
We should all "move forward" and he should lead in that move by stepping out of the Presidential race.
Then, maybe, we can "move forward" to the final two candidates who have the ability to be elected.
+SW->

Part of education for all Americans to black church-going Americans beliefs, is to tear away the illusions regarding the racism of blacks towards others, including other blacks. There seems to be racisct inclusion, i.e., Farrakann, by Wright. I don't believe I've heard him award a prize to a Rabbi.

Lisa I don't understand all the tap dancing. Obama's has 20 years of bad association. The issue at hand is very simple: He has to (or supporters like yourself has to)reconcile the uniter-good-judgement image with his long time support for the hate-filled church.

A question that hasn't been asked is this..What would the response have been from the colored population if Clinton's minister or McCain's minister had said such racially charged statements.. I do believe that it has had an affect on Obama's family considering what his wife stated regarding being an American.
I used to be a Democrate, I am now an independent and will vote for McCain. I also come from a mixed background.

Wright is still a very rude person and has seriously damaged Obama.

"NEWSWEEK phoned at least two dozen of the country’s most prominent and thoughtful African-American scholars and pastors, representing a wide range of denominations and points of view. Not one person would say that Wright had crossed any kind of significant line."

And...OJ was found NOT guilty.
Same thought process going on here guys!

Ummmmmm....great article..what?!?!?! Please explain to me again how we brought 9-11 on ourselves and that it's an acceptable issue to higlight racial divide in our country. Ridiculous. No worse...sad.

I'm a firm believer in the philosophy that you "are a product of your environment." You can't escape it no matter how hard you try. Now we come to find out that Obama was sitting quietly in church while his pastor denounced America and spewed racial epithets. Why didn't Obama find this reprehensible and unacceptable and find another church? Why only now "denounce" the racial onslaught by his pastor? Because he is now running for President. Obama still refuses to reject outright this person because he says "I can't separate myself from the man just like I can't separate myself from my white grandmother" You're right,Obama. You can't. And the hate your pastor has in his heart is carried on in one of his flock. You. Although I am a Democrat, under no circumstances could I EVER vote for your for President...EVER.

To be honest, I don't really care how this kind of talk (bigoted and racially divisive) is supposed to rally the African-americans (AA's) to church or whatever goal the preacher had in mind. It just can't do any good for anyone that is listening to it, unless they think it is good to create divisions and anger. To be in America at this day and age is a blessing no matter who you are (European, Asian, African, Middle Eastern dissent). All people who are here should be proud of the good that happens here, and work to improve the vast short-comings of our nation to work for a better tomorrow. There is nothing hopeful about words that damn or diminish a civilization.

To be honest, I don't really care how this kind of talk (bigoted and racially divisive) is supposed to rally the African-americans (AA's) to church or whatever goal the preacher had in mind. It just can't do any good for anyone that is listening to it, unless they think it is good to create divisions and anger. To be in America at this day and age is a blessing no matter who you are (European, Asian, African, Middle Eastern dissent). All people who are here should be proud of the good that happens here, and work to improve the vast short-comings of our nation to work for a better tomorrow. There is nothing hopeful about words that damn or diminish a civilization.

If white people only knew how powerful and pervasive is the hate for them in the black community, they would be in constant fear of leaving their homes.

I think obama is racist!!! I mean look at his wife. She is just now for the first time proud to be an american, that is so sad but makes so much since. She hates america until the day that her husband has a shot to become president. The fact that this pathetic man has any chance at running this country makes me sick to my stomach. We need to stop electing people like we vote for american idol. This is not a game!!! If he can sit in that church for more than 20 years and have the kind of relationship that he has with that man....Then you would have to say he shares the same views as that racist preacher of his. If he didnt wouldnt you think he would pick a different church that fits in better with his "american loving views"?

I grew up with a Lutheran minister for a father. His words in the pulpit did not reflect his behavior at home. He was far from an ideal religous leader- and far from an ideal father. But I, now being 38 years old, can see how that experience has helped shape my view and my belief and faith in GOD. I dont resemble my fathers words or behavior. Hes my example of what not to do. But its still part of me and Im thankful for that. It has given me wisdom.

I am not going to try to pretend to know what Obama has chosen to take from his Pastor and what he has decided to leave. I hope that he has more wisdom than Wright.

Miller wrote:

"How is that presidential hopeful Barack Obama, a member of that church for two decades, could fail to anticipate how terrifying Wright would look to the rest of the world?"

Oh please, most of the rest of the world agrees wholeheartedly with Reverend Wright's views on American foreign policy. That is how out of touch white Christian and Jewish America, including its reporters like Lisa Miller, is from the rest of the world.

Do you really have no clue about how most of the world views our occupation of Iraq or Israel's occupation of Palestine? Get real.

Lisa is SPOT ON here! Did anyone see Wolf Blitzer's report on The Situation Room today with Larry Elder?

Lisa's report goes a little further then the interview between him and a Rev. from the same denomination as Senator Obama's. In essence, we should try to stay away from what we are trying to be delivered from. If this Pastor married Senator Obama and his wife, baptized his two children, and then first says that he never witnessed any ranting or anti-American rhetoric, is simply not telling thr truth. As of today and after his speech, we know that to be the case. I think his campaign has done as well as it has due to the willingness of the media to place him on a mantel. let's talk about contrast between him and Hillary Clinton ON THE ISSUES. Let's remember that it is HIS campaign that does NOT want a re-vote in MI or FL. Aren't those voters being disenfranchised? I thought he was for ALL Americans?

Our Preacher preaches the Love of GOD, not racial hatred on Sundays.
So why is that we (non-African-American) have to look the other way when an African-American pastor preaches racial hatred at Sunday church.
Is it not the same religion hatred that is preached in the middle east?

Our Preacher preaches the Love of GOD, not racial hatred on Sundays.
So why is that we (non-African-American) have to look the other way when an African-American pastor preaches racial hatred at Sunday church.
Is it not the same hatred that is preached in the middle east?

How was this different from his other stump speeches? It addressed a new topic in the same way he's draped everything he discusses, in generalities and hyperbole. Nowhere did I hear a suggestion of taking responsibility for supporting and even exposing his children to the divisive beliefs of Rev. Wright for 20 years. In a campaign he himself has framed around judgement he refuses to acknowledge how bad a decision it has been for him to stand by those who propagate radical racial views.

Sen Obama can preach about ending divisiveness all he likes now but his failure to address it in his life and with the congregation he spent most of his adult life in speaks volumes about how deep his convictions are. If he refused to tackle the very issue he claims to hold paramount to all others in his community why would anyone believe his speech today?

Sen Obama simply uses race and high ideals as tools to serve his political interests. This speech was just another creative use of playing the race card to meet the ends that benefit him.

Healing should have started at home and two decades ago Mr. Obama.

Too bad his speech did not denounce the pastor. Saying "I can no more disown him then disown black america"...what???
I now believe Clinton is correct... Obama does think you can fix everything with a speech. She had him pegged from the start.

Now we can see why Obama''s wife hates America and calls Americans "sloths" and says we are all "mean". They are disgusting and he should never be President of a country he apparently has so much disdain for.

If he didn''t pick up something from his insipid preacher over 20 years of going to that church it is apparent his wife did.

To bad we had the media pushing their own agenda for so long and only now are we finding this out.
The democrats will never win the white house back now.

Nobama 08!

its funny how white ppl try to remedy past discrimination. first we cant generalize negros as being ignorant, uneducated, rapists and murderers. then we're gonna generalize all black males as going through the same experience.
i'm blown by how many white ppl from the suburbs treat me "better" because they have taught by society that as a black male i must have had certain experiences. i didn't grow up in ghetto, i didn't grow up in a broken home, and i really dont face racism against me. i went to the university of maryland, my credentials weren't that good at the time, so yea u can assume some affirmative action was there. but in my day-to-day interactions it seems ppl treat me extra nice either cuz they are afraid of me cuz i'm blacz or afraid of being "racist" to a black male.
well, ill tell u what, i dont want this preferential treatment in day-to-day interactions. other minorities dont get this treatment, females of any race dont get this preferential treatment, and i definitely didnt do anything to deserve preferential treatment. and again, u're just seeing race and my color in treating me "better."
some ppl i talk to say, they cant do that because black "leaders" such as al sharpton and rev. wright keep bringing up race. but ill say to u, stop listening. only a small percentage of the black population sees al sharpton and jesse jackson as representative of their views, but anytime there is a black "victim" the white media comes to them for a statement. if u're tired of hearing of race, stop listening to the ppl who are the instigators or are inciting racial tension when it isn't there.
btw, i am a black male, second generation from haiti.

I think it works both ways. Your comments show how polilitics took "The State" into "The Church". Maybe the simpliest explanation is the best postulate for entertaining the scientific inquiry ? Following that line of reasoning maybe Obama found it necessary to separate his personal church from state.

I know let's go inside McCain's Church. Let's go inside the Clinton Church. Let's not learn from the failure of the Roman/Catholic Empire.

Let's use religion to gain financial support. Let's promise kickbacks in the form of Faith-Based Welfare to win votes. Let's show some real charity by turning our back to the majority of the populus catering to our "friends". Reminds me of having a drunk uncle still in the family but best not to visit with him.

I wonder why over the last 20 years he never made the same speech to his church congregation? Are white people going in to black neighborhoods and telling them to develop a dysfunctional, violent culture with lousy schools?

It seems the only reason he is pandering to whites now is because he needs their votes. Considered in the context of Michelle Obama's recent comments, his speech doesn't hold water.

The first thing he will do is raise taxes on the white people to help out the 10% of unemployed blacks. Any white person who thinks that Obama could care less about them is deluding themselves. He is a Trojan Horse.

Racism in any color is ugly.

This is hard to step over. I can't step over these words in my own world how can I overlook this in someone that will represent my world in the bigger world.

Inevitably, someone will point out that the words fall into what is more inline with a prejudice views. Ok.

Prejudice in any color is ugly.

How sad and upsetting that people are so brainwashed and unwilling to listen to a candidate's tear-invoking speech. My God, if Martin Luther King or John F. Kennedy were alive today, you'd probably throw him under the bus exactly the same way you've thrown Obama into oblivion.

You don't deserve people like Obama running this country. Instead, you deserve McCain - someone who will give you his promised 100 years of war and will continue to live in denial about the problems we are stuck with.

Thanks for your "insightful" writing. It's 5 minutes of my life I will never get back.

I think this is the same as Mccain attending KKK rallies. Someone show me a difference.

Words are important.

Rev. Wright is entitled to his words. The people attending these sermons are entitled to and desire these.

How someone hears words is not under the control of the speaker, but only the lisener.

Hearing and listening are two different things. Hearing the word "Japan" means WWII to my mother (over 80) and Hybrid cars to myself. She is not wrong.

In Amercia we are allowed to decided for ourselves what the words mean. We listen and intrepret.

Because one group believes these words to be acceptable should not imply an alternative point or intrepretation as wrong. In fact it should be encouraged in our melting pot.

Thank you for taking the time to research the issue, and do some honest to God REPORTING. How refreshing and insightful. I truly wish there were more like you, on TV and in the newspapers. Why don't you start an association or something? You would have more of an audience than you could imagine.

Did she hear the speech? Almost as dismissive as Hillary!

In my opinion, Obama did not hit the home run needed to either diffuse the Wright issue or salvage his candidacy.

The Reverend Wright’s statements go far beyond the racist, and include condemning America as intrinsically corrupt (“God damn America”), to speaking from the pulpit just days after the 9/11 attacks and blaming the atrocity on American policy.

Reverend Wright is also on church video tape simulating sexual intercourse FROM THE PULPIT while screaming that President Clinton “screwed” blacks “the same way he screwed Monica Lewinski”.

Obama promised yesterday, as he ducked reporter’s questions about Wright at a PA press conference, that he would answer everything about Wright and his relationship to him.

But aside from offering slavery and “Jim Crow” as an excuse for Wright’s bitterness, and repeating the same disavowal of non-specified remarks by Wright he has been parroting since the scandal broke last week, Obama offered nothing new. Nor did Obama explain which SPECIFIC comments by Wright Obama was aware of and PRECISELY when.

Obama’s candidacy is a fraud. He promises the new politics of reconciliation, but his wife Michelle admitted she has never been proud of America until 2007 and hates corporate America. God knows what Obama says in private moments with Wright, his wife, and former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers (who told the NY Times in 2001 that he does not regret the bombings) about the country he seeks to lead.

In my opinion Obama is now unelectable--and I am a Democrat.

You can bet that the Republican's are producing their 'swift-boat' Obama ads as we speak.

In my opinion, Obama did not hit the home run needed to either diffuse the Wright issue or salvage his candidacy.

The Reverend Wright’s statements go far beyond the racist, and include condemning America as intrinsically corrupt (“God damn America”), to speaking from the pulpit just days after the 9/11 attacks and blaming the atrocity on American policy.

Reverend Wright is also on church video tape simulating sexual intercourse FROM THE PULPIT while screaming that President Clinton “screwed” blacks “the same way he screwed Monica Lewinski”.

Obama promised yesterday, as he ducked reporter’s questions about Wright at a PA press conference, that he would answer everything about Wright and his relationship to him.

But aside from offering slavery and “Jim Crow” as an excuse for Wright’s bitterness, and repeating the same disavowal of non-specified remarks by Wright he has been parroting since the scandal broke last week, Obama offered nothing new. Nor did Obama explain which SPECIFIC comments by Wright Obama was aware of and PRECISELY when.

Obama’s candidacy is a fraud. He promises the new politics of reconciliation, but his wife Michelle admitted she has never been proud of America until 2007 and hates corporate America. God knows what Obama says in private moments with Wright, his wife, and former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers (who told the NY Times in 2001 that he does not regret the bombings) about the country he seeks to lead.

In my opinion Obama is now unelectable--and I am a Democrat.

You can bet that the Republican's are producing their 'swift-boat' Obama ads as we speak.