Enemies and How to Fight Them

has anybody checked the instruction book?

God is on the dollar bill, if you have one he is easy to find. Keep looking.

1st God isn't on everyones side.

2nd if the plans fail God wasn't in it.

3rd history isn't a blank slate. There is almost nothing new out and about. The most you get is variations on a theme. See what has been done in the past. If it didn't work then it likely won't work now.

If you are considering voting for Obama checkout Jimmy Carter's policies and examine rapidly rising unemployment rates, interest rates, and inflation rates. Two of the three were in double Digits and the other was climbing fast. Also Check out Britain's economic woes under pre-Thatcher labor. Then try to explain to anyone why you thing this country needs to under go such a profoundly disastrous experience.

To answer this question, you would have to remain quiet... Allow me to explain: If both candidates proclaim their divine mission to the world, then allow their actions to stand for them... "...Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do (james 2:18b)."

You stay busy and there's no time for second guessing. "I was given tremendous responsibility that not only involved the war effort and government property, but people's lives." Knox said, "Our decisions had a direct effect on their safety. We had to make many decisions and there was no second guessing. We were too busy to be afraid." An old friend.

I became fearless long ago and there are still ships on the water, better to save women and children first. Keep busy, we are all deciders.

Good question, since they should have to address the problem of God being on everyone's side.

If I thought I'd get a sensible answer, I'd ask how on earth anyone can be religious at all.

Good question, since they should have to address the problem of God being on everyone's side.

If I thought I'd get a sensible answer, I'd ask how on earth anyone can be religious at all.

Take a look at our future if we do NOT wake up and address this situation:

http://islam4uk.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkQTZlnW62g

The recent Pew poll indicates that less than 1/3 of Americans now believe in the
exclusivity of their church: that salvation can be attained only in their theirs. That is a healthy trend as it enables people to begin to look to solve problems in association with others
rather than blindly following a dogma of their denomination. In turn, when they experience the dogmatism of others there is not the same emotional content or possible jealousy in response to the fanatical aggression of theocrats.

That achieved, people will look to ways of winning people’s hearts rather than expecting
brute force alone to be the only response. People then understand the use of “soft power”
in addition to the enforcement of appropriate legal remedies. Problems are created either
when people or nations want to employ law only when it advances their interests or when
they also have used “Divine Right” as a justification for their own aggression.

Islam and Sharia Law based Jihad and death for apostacy come to mind.

Quran does teach, at least in a few verses, that a non-believer in Allah is an enemy of a Muslim.

Focus on human rights and all Gods have to submit to them.

Tough question, but the answer is to do what is right. The death and destruction spewed out by our Islamist enemies (for instance) will eventually pall on the populace and they themselves will be outed and routed (Inch'Allah). YOu really can not keep people from killing by killing them, not in this context. It is a hydra - cut off one head and a) create a martyr, b) two grow in its place.
The truth will win in the end. Unfortunately and Amazingly our government has forgotten how to tell the truth and insists on "spinning" everything to such an extent that everyone in the world except the spinners and conjurers recognize their spin as hogwash. I don't think we'd know the Truth if He walked up and introduced himself.

Let them act according to their higher power. As long they are only affecting themselves, let them be. But when their higher power tells them to do something which negatively affects us, then it is time for us to act according to our higher power: survival. (I mean this universally as Americans, not as a Christian.) So let them do as they please, just so long as they know to expect the same freedom of conscience from our end.

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"It's really an easy equation"

DON'T--

You may want to try life on another planet...

That's a great question to ask anyone who believes their actions are directed by "a higher father."

ah, Sharon Thomas, we hear what you say, and we do indeed see that many of you are harmless and wish no evil upon those who don't share your beliefs.

It's nice to know that you exist among the believers, it gives me the slim hope that I have that we can survive the presence of divine authorities, bot "real" and imagined.

I don't care if your god exists or not, it's not my problem and it certainly isn't interesting to me. What does concern me are the traits and behaviors of those possessed by blind faith, how easily led they are by those sufficiently charismatic to gather them together into mobs and throw them at the unbelievers or the even more hated wrong-believers.

It's really an easy equation. If there are none who believe in divine authority then there will be no enemies who claim it.

To "Don't"

I'm not your enemy; nor do I claim to impose my own belief that there is a true God on you or anyone else. If invited to speak what I believe or to look into the many faces of injustice, I too have the right and sometimes even the imperative to speak. Power and those who seek power have nothing to do with me. I've lived in that world and I want no part of it. People tearing each other apart and destroying others to achieve their own agenda(s). Why would any sane or moral person want to be part of that? And to use a claim of following divine orders to do so is sickening to me.

I don't feel the need to fight with you about any of this, I understand that I may not convince anyone else by my words, but they are my words and my experience to express.

My greatest desire is that my time on earth will be defined by these words, "He has shown thee oh man what is good, and What does the Lord require of thee, But to do justly and to love Mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God."

Can't say I always live up to that high standard, but it's my main goal.

By what standard is a previously perceived peaceful religion judged to have become a death cult? When is a religious ideology considered no longer acceptable within the bounds of American culture?

Answers, please?

"the only possible way to prevent them from destroying you is to destroy them first"

Well Barg-

History proves that is the time-tested method to ensure the survival of your civilization.

Really, Mainstream Baptist, you are making an invalid assumption here - that your enemies are going to respond well to your good intentions.

This is merely an equal and opposite reflection of the foolishness we see running our country today, for them it's shoot first and don't answer any questions after. They have a least taken on the facade of reality, many of the enemies you describe haven't even that.

A general policy of "be nice to everyone" is as ineffective a policy as "just shoot everyone."

There aren't any easy answers, situations must be handled with intelligence and a clear focus of what one wants to accomplish. But there are some people out there who cannot see reason in any form, blinded by religious mania the only possible way to prevent them from destroying you is to destroy them first.

That is a very sad truth.

I prefer to describe the struggle with adversaries as "facing" them rather than "fighting" them.

Our political adversaries would be less inclined to violence if we would refrain from responding in kind and thereby escalating the level of violence. Instead of fighting them, we need to "face" them and engage them in open and honest dialogue to settle grievances and press for a just resolution of our differences.

Robert Pape's book "Dying to Win" clearly demonstrates that there is a strategic logic to suicide terrorism. We can either fight this logic or face it. If we face this logic, we will have to modify our foreign policy in ways that will reduce the grounds for violent conflict and promotes conflict resolution through non-violent means.

Dr. Bruce Prescott

"those who most claim to be the only ones who follow that truth have done the most to discredit to the true God."

If I am to understand Sharon Thomas, your method to defeat the enemy claiming divine authority is to have more divine authority yourself?

If you make any claims about a one true god of any sort, you are doing just what the question is asking.

I suppose since you understand The One True God, and perhaps being a compassionate and decent sort of person yourself, you can look upon the false believers and the pseudo believers with some willingness to forgive their errant ways - but it sure as sounds like the same story to me.

The unbelievers watch all of you in your self-destructive mutual hatred and wonder if our humanity can survive even the best intent of the believers.

Extremely good question with depth that disallows easy answers. Perhaps our Jewish scholars/brothers could help us here. From a non-theologian, simple follower of Jesus; my simple answer is you can't defeat an enemy who believes they are acting on divine authority on a global level. It can only be done on an individual level; there are no fast or easy solutions.

On an individual level; we must each search out the truth of God through scriptures and prayer to counter falling prey to propaganda and others political agendas. Beyond that; we must speak the truth in love where we hear falsehood. Those who love truth will hear; those who love only their own twisted version of truth will cling to what they think they know. After speaking the truth in love; we must then live in that truth and walk in integrity. This is where those of us who claim to be followers of the true Christ can learn from Ghandi's example. And Dr. Martin Luther King's example. The end result will be persecution and perhaps even death, at least of one sort or another. Reputation almost certainly. Are we really willing to walk in what is required to stand for the truth of God, vs. those who are so absolutely think they are acting under divine authority? It seems to me that time and a willingness of true followers to suffer becauses the masses will be enticed by the easy way, is ultimately the only way to defeat those who are convinced that they alone act under God's authority. It has to come down to the individual stand.

This is not to say that Republicans alone have fallen prey to the incidious culture of lies; but the current U.S. administration has done so much to turn the very idea of absolute truth on it's head and in the process have used naive Christians for their own purposes; that unless the American people wake up in seeing the results of all the lies they have been fed; I can only see persecution ahead for the true church. The lies and words of a false gospel have attached themsselves to all who go by the name of Christians. I believe we have a mirror image of this in our brothers and sisters who believe in the true Allah. If those who hold the real truth, keep silent, then those who state by words or actions that they alone know God or Allah's will will prevail. It's up to us individually to either stand and suffer persecution or keep silent and allow the lies to prevail in the global universe.

With respect to the previous commentor, throwing out the baby with the bathwater is not the answer. There is ultimate truth and there is ultimate divine authority, but by it's very abuse; those who most claim to be the only ones who follow that truth have done the most to discredit to the true God.

You have to buy some more diving authority, if you have more divine authority than your enemy then you win.
And get it from a good dealer too, with good customer support and 24-7 online help.

How do you fight an enemy that believes it is acting according to divine authority?

Makes me wonder-

How do you address the adherents of a religion who believe their divine laws supercede our constitution and ask that their beliefs be respected and accommodated by all Americans?

Most humans believe in divine authority of one sort or another. Aren't most enemies then going to claim divine authority?

From the wiki: Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or gives loaded messages in order to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the cognitive narrative of the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda.

What better mechanism for propaganda than religion? Attach your message to their blind faith, assert sufficiently well that to deny their message is to deny the faith ... and the sheep volunteer for the slaughter.

The only way to defeat the appeal to divine authority is to defeat the notion that there is any divine authority.

Good question. Dubya scares the crap out of me, too.