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If we are looking at this from a Christian perspective, we should ask ourselves- " Just imagine Jesus Christ in Iraq with a uzzi machine gun killing people. That is right we can't imagine such a happening-"the solution departure and shame...

If we are looking at this from a Christian perspective, we should ask ourselves- " Just imagine Jesus Christ in Iraq with a uzzi machine gun killing people. That is right we can't imagine such a happening-"the solution departure and shame...

Garyd,

Yes, I am aware that according to Luke 22:35-38 Jesus is said to have encouraged his disciples to buy swords. But this is such an isolated incident that I doubt it's historicity and would argue that there would most likely have been a much more metaphorical meaning to it.

Hengle argued that what would have been called a sword would most likely have been a Jewish sword sword which was used against wild animals and robbers. It was considered so essential in Palestine that even the Essenes would carry one. Moreover, Luke claims that only 2 were given in front of Jesus and it is ambiguous as to what Jesus' last remark could have meant: "It is enough."

Frank,

The problem is not that Islam is such an overly violent religion, the problem is that people are pushed by society, by the world, by an invading nation, past the point of oppression so that they think that the only chance that their nation has is a resistance. Think about it this way: what must have happened to a person so that they trully believe that their only choice left is to strap a bomb on themselves and blow themselves up. I would say that this sort of belief does not come lightly and I think it is an insult to human nature to attribute it to the "70 virgins"!

Allan.

You are aware that among Jesus last acts upon this earth before his crucifiction was to make sure the disciples had swords?

Right on, J.D.

I couldn't have put it better myself, there is nothing good about "peace" through "violence" as the entire Jesus experience was all about. It just doesn't work, your entire section of a sociology of "revolution" in The Historical Jesus convinced me enough on this. Blood-shed is no way to solve blood-shed!

Allan.

Economics 101, Dealing with Shiites and Sunnis 101

Build a wall around Baghdad. Let the Sunnis (Saudis) and the Shiites (Iranians) have at it and then let the winners rebuild Baghdad. It will be our money anyway i.e. oil profits from US consumers.

Do the same for other sections of Iraq as needed.

Bukko in Australia: The US press does not report anything that happens outside Baghdad and Anbar province. That creates the illusion here in the US that the rest of Irak is a peaceful paradise. One must read non-US news sources to see the picture in the rest of Irak.

How do you reply to comments that are not based on facts?

"Concerned the Christian" -- where do you get the idea that "the rest of Iraq appears to be at peace"? Do you not read the newspaper stories on the site where you comment? Do you not see how 10,000 U.S. troops are currently attacking the province of Maysan, which had been turned over to Iraqi control in April? The U.S. army had to mount this punitive mission because the province had spun out of control. Do you not see the reports of carnage in Diyala Province? What about the ethnic cleansing in Mosul, where the Kurds are running out anyone who's not part of their ethnic group?

I could go on and on, but your statement indicates that you're blind to what's actually happening. That's the nature of a faithful Christian. Ignore what's real. Just believe what you want to believe, because you have faith it's true. Facts don't count.

Officially, if the Iraqi government were to ask us to leave, we would. Unofficially, they are an American puppet. The time has passed to divide Iraq into Shia, Kurd and disputed/Sunni zones (including Baghdad). The U.S. should withdraw from the disputed/Sunni zone and invite Syria or Jordan in to keep the peace, backed by international funds and authority. The US can then set up hard borders protecting the other regions from terrorism and crushing any sabotage in these regions. It is about the Oil after all. The action against the Sunni's is a distraction. They will never accept us as their liberator, since we killed their tribal chieftan (Saddam). As for the War on Terror - the argument that we must fight it there to avoid it here is essentially condemning the Iraqi people to be cannon fodder in our war. It is more likely that the War on Terror is gaining recruits that WILL come here because of the War in Iraq radicalized them. We should be in Western Pakistan shooting al Queda, not Iraq.

Speed123,

And there is no War (Police Action) against Terror? 9/11 did not happen? Sunnis and Shiites do not on a 24/7 civil war basis butcher each other in Baghdad yelling Allah is Great??

Speaking of seperation of the crazies, Concerned... how about you build a wall between yourself and your computer so that we dont have to but subjected to your irrational, sterotypical comments??

Again Iraq and Afghanistan and Somalia and the Phillipines are all about the War on Terror!! "Police Action Against Terror" if you want to be politically correct. Specific to Iraq, maybe a wall around Baghdad? Then leave it to the Islamic crazy Sunnis and Shiites to either live together or die in a butchery unseen before in an urban area. The rest of Iraq appears to be at peace because the separation of the crazy ones is already in place.

In the meantime, we should all support global freedom of religion something the liberal Muslim commentators on this blog do not support. This is very, very disturbing since it means they still follow the basic "koranic" desire for an Islamic world by any means.

You're going to get a lot of heat for that statement, but you're absolutely right.

Right on Dominic; finally something we can agree on!

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That was pithy.