God Will Let Me Know God

It's a great achievement for Islamic leaders and scholars as well as Newsweek and the Washington post to present this imperative opportunity for inter cultural and global philosophical dialogue. What's important is that by exchanging our ideas and comments regarding inter religious relations and world events that affect our views of each other as fellow human beings. Since the advent of humanity, We strove to make sense of the world we live in and the lives we've experienced. Worldwide curiosities to learn the true nature of life and our universe is an exceptionally rare virtue upon life on Earth. In other words, we're the only known species on the planet who've pursued to unravel these great mysteries and developed written philosophies based upon our understanding of the world around us.
One such philosophy that lasted throughout the ages of humanity is commonly known as religion and spirituality. Ever since our early belief in the Sky God and the God Mother from ancient Pagan times, we vigorously pursued to unravel the truth about our most profound questions. As any educated person would know that religion and their core beliefs or faith have evolved over time. Paganism, Monotheism and Polytheism have been influenced by humanity as these great philosophies have influenced our perceptions and decisions in life over the ages. Over time humanity has embraced diverse religious faiths and spiritual convictions that continue to influence our behavior in our times and most likely beyond.
What's vital for humanity's progress and even survival is to know the true nature of faith itself. To understand the true origins of faith. But most of all, is to accept the truth for whatever it may be. Each one of us will learn the absolute truth once we die. But until that time comes for anyone of us to depart this world, we really don't know the answer to God's existence nor do we have the absolute truth in regards to the true nature of God. Besides if we did possess the truth, there would've been only one religion on Earth with no diversification of any way, shape of form. There would only be one holy scripture written throughout human history.
Considering one's religious faith to be absolute, while considering others to be false would be ethnocentric at best. While collectively searching to unravel the mysteries on nature, life and the universe through sincere reasoning and serious research would be enlightening at its worst. Most importantly, we must accept the fact is that none of us have conclusive evidence to confirm our core beliefs and there's always an immanent change that our most cherished beliefs could be wrong. Our greatest challenge would be to tolerate the truth no matter what it may ultimately be. With such an open mind, we would be able to overcome any future discovery that would contradict our faith regarding the true nature of life, spirituality and divinity.
Humanity does have the ability to achieve such a social achievement. However, it's solely up to humanity and not any other entity or groups of entities to decide our destinies. Each one of us has a choice to make; either hopelessly engaging into meaningless inter cultural conflicts or combine our scientific and cultural gifts to thrive into an enlightened global civilization that could ultimately expand beyond our solar system. The choice is yours, and the time to make it is now!

The kingdom of BGONE is a mudocracy and is the kingdom of the TROLL DOLLS. God's kingdom is real. BGONEs WEB SITE brings confusion upon the earth (Rev 12:9).

BGONE and JOZEVZ..are 2 peas in a POD

Words of no sense...

Read Josephus, et. al. ....all are more coherent than the above 2 put together.

evidences you are looking for are all around you. everything in this universe is explaining him us. but our life here,i believe, is an exam to pass to Heaven or Hell. and for this reason His existance is not (and must not be) too obvious, and verifiable by any empirical methods, to see and realise the truth.

evidences you are looking for are all around you. everything in this universe is explaining him us. but our life here,i believe, is an exam to pass to Heaven or Hell. and for this reason His existance is not (and must not be) too obvious, to see and realise the truth.

Dear David,

You stated the following: "If (God) is real, then by all standards of cognition and evidence that we know its existence should be provable. Otherwise the entire concept is meaningless and you are just talking jibberish..." It seems to me that one of your underlying suppositions here is a form of the Verifiability Criterion of Meaning. Simply put, this states that a proposition, or sentence if you will, "God exists" for example, must be empirically verifiable in order for it to have any meaning and, thus, a truth-value. If it's not verifiable, then it's meaningless and neither true nor false.

The problem with this view is that the presupposition itself is not verifiable. One cannot empirical verify its truth or falsity. Thus, since it fails to satisfy its own criterion, we have no good reason to buy into it. Thus, what you say about God's existence is also not true. We need not be able to -prove-, in any sense of that term, his existence in order for the proposition stating that he exists to have meaning.

Cheers,
Dave

Emmanuel

Please get a grip on yourself. Everybody knows that there is no proof of a God or a supernatural world.
That's why believers are required to have Faith.
If God was a known entity,if his existence was known,then there would be no athiests,and everybody would worship the same God.
And nobody would need to have Faith,would they?
Not only is there no proof,Emmanuel.It gets worse.
There's not even any evidence.
All you got is Faith.Take it or leave it.

The Moderate said:

Atheist experiments of Nazism (guided by Frederick Wilhelm “God is dead” Nietzsche)

This is a false statement. Nietzsche died in 1900 and guided no such thing.

The Moderate and Sam sound the same - it's the other belief system who caused the wars.

Humanities desire to control resources causes wars, not belief systems.

PGR, you are correct. I would add that we might as well ask the generic question, "why do people die." For time and cause does not matter. Infinity divided by any life span still equals infinity. You are eternally dead no matter how this comes about or when. There is a biblical answer as to why we die, but the Bishop is oblivious to even this part of the Scripture. Bishop I believe it is on page 2 or 3. Can you read?

The relevant question is not really why we die (of cancer or anything else) but what happens to us when we die. The woman does not even understand that this is the question to be asked. Is this a classic case of the blind leading the blind? You be the judge.

We can only exercise choice over what happens when we die. I know that my salvation is through our Savior Jesus Christ and that he is God's gift to us, for those who seriously want to consider the really important question, "what happens to me when I die." Not that I am after my personal salvation in a selfish way but if someone offers you the winning ticket to the $150,000,000 lottery why not take it. That is what God has done and this is the good news. God is infinite so there are tickets for all of you guys out there and much more. Why do people die of cancer? Who cares.

To say that there is no proof of God is a very distasteful statement by a leader in a main Christian denomination. To say faith is no proof is to contradict the apostolic message that "Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things of unseen. But without faith it is impossible to please God, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." Epistle to the Hebrews 11 v1 and 6.
As for children dying of cancer, in my line of work I see this sadly too many times. But it wonderful to see hope in eyes of these wonderful children and their parents often sustained by their faith in God's providence whatever the outcome. They surely have the proof of faith that there is God and the power of faith that moves mountains.

No wonder the Episcopal is such a mess with leadership like Jane Dixon. This equivocating, wimp of a Christian is exactly why that denomination is in trouble. The legacy you leave, Ms. Dixon, is a divided church on the brink of collapse. As a Bishop you share the success or failure of your organization. Congratulations on creating a spiritual Enron and then patting yourself on the back because you can ask God any question you want and he is big enough to take it. What have you done for Him? Bankrupting a major Christian denomination is not exactly the definition of success. If it were Enron you would be in jail but because it is a church, you are safe.

Katharine Jefferts Schori, the head of the church, who probably gets your support has answered the following question: Is belief in Jesus the only way to get to heaven? Her answer,
"We who practice the Christian tradition understand him as our vehicle to the divine. But for us to assume that God could not act in other ways is, I think, to put God in an awfully small box."

Oh boy, here we come with the small box. How creative. Consider that God defines the box and he makes the rules and so nobody can put God in any box, small or big. He defines his own space. Here is what God says, if you are interested: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me." - Jesus Christ.

If anyone does not believe this, then they should not be in a leadership role within a Christian Church, including Ms Schori. You can not lead without subscribing to the doctrine of your founder, Jesus. Otherwise, you stand for nothing. Which pretty much is the impression left by both Ms. Dixon and Schori. Until there is a leadership overhaul at this denomination, things will only get worse. Just my prediction but one that I would put a very high probability on.

To Sam: God Himself became the mediator between God and man, which is part of the Divine Plan that God came up with long before anything material or spiritual was created. Guess what, once we are all in the Kingdom of God or the Kingdom of Love, call it whatever you want they are both saying the same thing, you will see that God actually does know what He is doing. So many people are in for a tremendous surprise, actually everybody. We have free will, whether we like it or not, I for one am glad that God came up with a Plan that includes everyone, just like the bible has been twisted by people, so has what christianity actually is. God wins Total Victory, satan loses, a tie is unacceptable. Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

PGR:

78 died in Baghdad today and we know for a fact that God was behind that killing. The 78 are now in hell while the suicide killer is in paradise with Allah,, so they faith.

You don't suppose Allah is a Devil, http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul Is Allah a big Devil, the Lord God of Hell, Lucifer, or is He just a little Devil? In either case they are all dead regardless of their ages.

Was God just visiting at Jericho or *in on it*?

God is either real or it is not. If it is real, then by all standards of cognition and evidence that we know its existence should be provable. Otherwise the entire concept is meaningless and you are just talking jibberish, as Dixon is here.

Religious discussions really bring out the fruit cakes over there don't they? (Over there being in United States.) Blind conviction in the face of mounting empirical evidence is the ultimate folly.

"Why do innocent children die of cancer?" My answer: do not expect God to agree with simplistic societal mores. How do you know who is innocent? What is the difference in the death of a 10 year old vs. death of a 100 year old? Death by cancer or death by bungee-jumping? Being born head-first or feet-first?

Is Ms. Dixon's god the same god that told George W. Bush
he had been installed by Divine Providence and that God
wanted him to invade Iraq and cleanse the world of Evil
by using the swords and shields of the U.S. military? Did
that same god tell Bush to employ torture when most of
the civilized world had put aside that dark satanic art? How
do we know that the god Ms. Dixon claims is not guilty of
informing many megalomanic criminals and despots that
their cause is just? How do we distinguish between false
prophets and authentic messengers of the Almighty? How
do we protect ourselves from the charlatans who claim they
"know God" then proceed to scam, fleece and bamboozle us?

Actually, Ms. Dixon if God wishes to make your acquaintance He will do so in no uncertain terms. It will turn your whole life upside down. And radically change the way you view the world.

If he does not nothing you do will change his mind.

The kingdom of God is a theocracy is the kingdom of God. God's kingdom is hell. Religion brings hell up to earth.

It AIN'T God Bush talks to, http://www.hoax-buster.org/sellyoursoul It's a supernatural being though, the one that would be God, Lucifer.

Heaven is democracy is heaven. Heaven is without religion. It's a peaceful place without Devil worship.

Calling Devil God does not make Devil God but does make Devil happy. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and passes through churches, temples, synagogues and mosqes where the great harvest of souls takes place. The big money goes to those who lead the multitudes to hell.

BGONE I THINK YOU HAVE THE WORD DEMOCRACY CONFUSED WITH THEOCRACY! HA AHA HA.

Jane Dixon
Excuse me ma'am. There is proof of god's existence.
The president of the United States of America talks to him. What greater proof than that do you need?

Atheist doctrine of total war? Your misguided view of religion is busting out all over. The ****godless communist*** have had the bomb for over a half century and still haven't used it. How long will the first jihad to get one wait even though it means he will die too? Nazis were/are devout worshippers of nordic gods. Hitler was divinely guided just like Osama.

Stick to checkers. Chess will blow what little mind you had to begin with.

If the Russians or other former USSR state ever uses the bomb it will be on Muslims, one local brand or the other.

Religion and democracy are mutually exclusive for relition will forever establish the kingdom of God here on earth. Who will run the kingdom while we await the return of Jesus, Muhammad, Joseph Smith, who's next, to the claim the throne of God?

I agree with The Moderate. If religion no longer existed in our world there would still be war and injustice. For man's evil desires craves power and wealth! I don't really think it's fair to blame religion and atheists for War!

Napoleon didn't conquer for faith he conquered for power and world domination!

As long as evil men seek world domination there will always need good men and women to bring balance and justice to the world.

"The only thing necessary for the truimph of evil is for good men to do nothing," - Attributed to Edmund Burke.

Dear Begone:

The illusion you see is your own reflection. The reality is that Saddam was not about religion. The Ba'th party was modeled on the Nazi party. It functioned using a ruthless patriarchal patronage system enforced by an iron fist, just like the Roman Empire. The Shi'ites were an oppressed ethnic majority and they struggle to avoid going under the power of that fist once again. Now they struggle on more even terms rather than light infantry against a combined arms team including air, armor, mechanized infantry, and chemical weapons. When you compare religious communities to perfection and you find them wanting. When you compare them instead to the the Atheist Carnal Pits of the of the Gulag and Treblinka, you see something else entirely.

The wars of the Middle East are not fundamentally religious wars. They are ethnic ones. Solve that, if you can, and the religious issues will resolve themselves. As ugly as they are, these conflicts pale compared to the Atheist doctrine of Total War. Why? Possibly because they are to some degree restrained by their belief in God.

I will try to not spoil the illusion.

Innocent children die to get to heaven, the ultimate goal. Guilty jihads die for the same reason. Innocence or guilt doesn't count, only faith counts.

Dear Sam,

I am sorry to see that someone has really has fed you a lot of malarkey. I guess this kind of stuff has been circulating on campuses for decades in postmodern history departments. You seem to imply that a harmonic convergence of peace, love, and understanding, will somehow occur if only we all give up on the idea of God. But as you must know, the great Twentieth Century Atheist experiments of Nazism (guided by Frederick Wilhelm “God is dead” Nietzsche) and Communism (guided by Joseph “Death solves all problems” Stalin, who murdered tens of millions in the name of creating the “new Atheist/Socialist man".) racked up a greater butcher bill in a single Century than all the religious wars of throughout history before then. The tragically, the Twentieth Century shows that Man is even worse without God than he is with God.

As a member of the same church as Bishop Jane Dixon, who wrote the paragraph above, I must tell you that people who lived two thousand years ago do not impose their will upon us. Still, we believe that the ancient wisdom is not irrelevant to the present world. This is because we still face problems of poverty, intolerance, and man's cruelty to man, and the even an ongoing slave trade (euphemistically called “trafficking in persons” because we cannot bear the more honest designation of “sexual slavery”).

The message of Jesus Christ is as radical now as it was then:

As to living together, he taught that we all are the children of god, and each of us is sacred.

As to discrimination and Apartheid, he taught that in Christ, there is no male or female, nor slave nor free.

As to hatred, he taught us to love our enemies, offer the other cheek.

As to hunger: he said “Feed My Sheep.”

As to wars and bloodshed: he chose to die on The Cross rather than lead his people into war.

You may be assured that Jesus did not lead us to murder millions, we his fallen creatures failed him and murdered millions. No one who persecutes another in the name of Jesus Christ truly follows him. But those who rejected Him murdered in tens of millions or hundreds of millions.

Does God need mediators between himself and his creatures? No, but he does need Saints here on Earth like Bishop Desmond Tutu, Pope John Paul II, Mother Teresa, Saint Francis, and all the others.

I must tell you that some decades ago I thought as you now think. I feel much better now that I try to walk with God. Not perfected. Not righteous, Not superior. But better. And that makes all the difference.

Peace

Why should anyone waste his time thinking of religious teachings that were behind major differences and a great deal of bloodshed in our world.Why should people who had lived more than two thousand years ago impose on us what they did or what they thought during their old ages.
During our life span,we need to live together as human beings without descrimination, apartheid, hatered,hunger,wars and bloodshed.
Unfortunately,we will never achieve such goals as long as we still believe in hand -made fairy tales that had already led to the murder of millions of people in our world.
The major question is,Does God really need mediators between himself and his own creatures.