Obama's Opportunity in Cairo

A good positive article by Mr. Feisal Abdul Rauf. The five pillars of Islam will support this sharing.

Hmmm, it appears Farnaz has finally read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's autobiography, Infidel i.e. compare Farnaz's latest comments to those of Ms. Ali's:

"Thus begins the extraordinary story of a woman born into a family of desert nomads, circumcised as a child, educated by radical imams in Kenya and Saudi Arabia, taught to believe that if she uncovered her hair, terrible tragedies would ensue. It's a story that, with a few different twists, really could have led to a wretched life and a lonely death, as her grandmother warned. But instead, Hirsi Ali escaped -- and transformed herself into an internationally renowned spokeswoman for the rights of Muslim women."
ref: Washington Post book review.

four excerpts:

p. 47 paperback issue:

"Some of the Saudi women in our neighborhood were regularly beaten by their husbands. You could hear them at night. Their screams resounded across the courtyards. "No! Please! By Allah!"

p.68:

"The Pakistanis were Muslims but they too had castes. The Untouchable girls, both Indian and Pakistani were darker skin. The others would not play with them because they were untouchable. We thought that was funny because of course they were touchable: we touched them see? but also horrifying to think of yourself as untouchable, despicable to the human race."

p.309

"Between October 2004 and May 2005, eleven Muslim girls were killed by their families in just two regions (there are 20 regions in Holland). After that, people stopped telling me I was exaggerating."

p. 347

"The kind on thinking I saw in Saudi Arabia and among the Brotherhood of Kenya and Somalia, is incompatible with human rights and liberal values. It preserves the feudal mind-set based on tribal concepts of honor and shame. It rests on self-deception, hyprocricy, and double standards. It relies on the technologial advances of the West while pretending to ignore their origin in Western thinking. This mind-set makes the transition to modernity very painful for all who practice Islam".

Faisal,

How good to see you. Perhaps, you will explain to us how an ancient population of 80,000 Egyptian Jews became fourteen?

Can you tell us why Egyptians of Palestinian ancestry cannot get an education? Are deprived of rights of citizenship?

Might you discourse on the plight of the Coptic
Christians?

On why the epitome of evil, Mubarak grows fatter and fatter while Egyptians literally starve to death? How it is that he is grooming his despicable son to replace him?

Might you explain why Egypt continues to shoot down Sudanese refugees or turns them back to Sudan? Why said refugees are still being taken into Israel, despite the ongoing protests of Ethopian Jews, many of whom were tortured by the Sudanese and do not wish to live among their torturers?

Isn't Egypt big enough to accommodate a few fleeing Sudanese?

Can you tell us, Faisal, when Egypt will end female genital mutilation once and for all? When it will end honor killings?

Can you tell us how the Muslim Brotherhood is doing these days?

Might you inform us as to why Egypt steadfastly refused to allow aid to flow from Egypt to Gaza during the recent war? This, despite Israeli entreaties? Would not agree even after the war ended until Israel guaranteed it would make policing the border its top priority?

Would a few Gazans fleeing Hamas have been so difficult for Egypt to accommodate?

Faisal, can you tell us when Mubarak will stop using his government owned newspapers to demonize Jews so as to distract the people from his evil and the suffering they've endured from it?

When Mubarak will stop arming terrorists, who have murdered little girls on the streets of Tel a Viv?

People want to know, Faisal. Perhaps, the next time you visit, you might inquire.

Feisal,

This is your lucky day. We are here to save you from 1400 years of Islamic brainwashing. Are you ready??

Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

"1. Belief in Allah"

"aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc." should be added to your cleansing neurons.

"2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gib Gnab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "creationist".

"3. To believe in the existence of angels."

A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/devils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hittites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ugly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as fairies and "tinker bells". Modern devils are classified as the demons of the demented.

"4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."
Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels/"pwtfft"s to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the uneducated masses in line. Today we call them fortune tellers.
Prophecies are also invalidated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

"5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."

Mohammed spent thirty days fasting in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic violence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallucinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

Accept these five "cleansers" and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

Analogous programs are available for Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Pagans and Baha'ists.

Mono discusses the following heading:
"CAIRO VS THE DELUSIONISM OF GRECO/ROMANISM."

Why not be more forthcoming about what you mean. Knowing a lot about your culture you are saying that your ideology is the "real" thing while western civilization is a “delusion”. A culture is judged by its fruits. What are the fruits of your culture? I tell you. Ignorance, illiteracy, poverty, corruption, and all pervasive impotence in all fields of human endeavor. You and your ilk are good at criticizing the West yet you risk life and limb to escape your failed societies to get to their shores. That should tell you who is the "real" and who is "deluded."

APPROACHING ,
MECCA,JEURSALEM,AND CAIRO.

THE ABOVE CENTERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT THEOLOGICAL AND IDEOLOGICAL CENTERS OF THE WORLD.

THE ABOVE CENTERS ARE THE PLACE AND GEOGRAPHY OF ALL DIVINE REVELATIONS TO MANKIND,

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF TONS OF BOOKS,LITURATURES,ARTS AND STRUCTURES,THE ABOVE CENTERS ARE CENTERS OF KNOWLDGE AND HISTORY FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO AMEND AND REVIVE HUMAN CIVILIZATION

THE ABOVE CENTERS MAY NOT BE SO ADVANCED IN TECHNOLOGY BUT SO ADVANCED IN THOUGHT AND LIBERTY ,COMPARE THE ABOVE CENTERS TO THE DELUSIONISM OF GRECO /ROMANISM OR THE FADEING WESTERN CIVILIZATION IN ORDER TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE.

THE ABOVE CENTERS NEED TO BE APPROACHED THEOLOGICALY AND IDEALOGICALY BUT NOT ALL SECULAR.

COMEING TO THE ABOVE CENTERS NEED,

1-A GOOD PEN .
2-A GOOD THICK LARGE NOTEBOOK
3-A GOOD HUMBLE HEAD AND HEART

OBAMA WILL DO THE AMERICA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD A GREAT FAVOR IF HE CAN MAKE THE BALANCE BETWEEN BOTH SIDE OF THE WORLD,
1-THE SCRIPTURE SIDE
2-THE HUMAN SECULAR SIDE.

CAIRO VS THE DELUSIONISM OF GRECO/ROMANISM.

MECCA ,JEURSALEM AND CAIRO ARE VERY IMPORTANT ADVANCED THEOLOGICAL AND IDEOLOGICAL CENTERS OF THE WORLD,(COMPARE THE ABOVE CENTERS TO ATHEN OR ROME OR THE FADEING WESTERN CIVILIZATION IN GENERAL TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE.

APPROACHING THE ABOVE CENTERS REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING,

1- A GOOD PEN AND A PENCEL (DO NOT FORGET YOUR GLASSES)
2- A GOOD LARGE THICK NOTEBOOK
3- A GOOD HUMBLE OPEN REFINED HEAD AND HEART.

THE ABOVE CENTERS ARE THE PLACE AND GEOGRAPHY OF ALL DIVINE REVELATIONS TO MANKIND ,THOUSANS AND THOUSANS OF TONS OF BOOKS ,LITURATURES,LINGUISTICS,ARTS AND STRUCTURES,.

THE ABOVE CENTERS ARE GREAT PLACES OF KNOWELGE AND HISTORY FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO AMEND OR REVIVE HUMAN CIVILIZATION.

THE ABOVE CENTERS NEED TO BE APPROACHED THEOLOGICALY AND IDEOLOGICALY ,THE ABOVE CENTERS MAY NOT BE SO ADVANCED IN TECHNOLGY BUT SO ADVANCED IN THOUGHT IF YOU COMPARE THE ABOVE CENTERS TO THE DELUSIONISM OF THE WESTERN CIVILIIZATION THAT NOT ONLY WESTERNERS SUFFER FROM BUT ALSO THOSE MUSLIMS WHO ARE FOLLOWING THE TAIL OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION .

OBAMA WILL DO AMERICA AND THE WEST A GREAT FAVOR IF HE CAN TALK TO BOTH SIDE OF THE ABOVE CENTERS,
1-THE SCRIPTURE SIDE
2-THE HUMAN SECULARISM SIDE.

The background information that the President needs to be updated with is that Egypt of today is a far cry from the Egypt of the temples and pyramids, of Ramsees and Cleopatra. It is a static society that rotates around itself and going nowhere. Everybody is against everybody else. The Islamists against the government and both are against the Christians, and off course the Jews, and now against the Shiites , the Quranics, the Bahais and the Ismailies.
They have provisions in their constitution for freedom of speech and religion, but the former is abrogated by the so-called martial laws and the latter by the Muslim clergy.
Fifty years ago Egypt and South Korea had the same population numbers and the same GDP. Now South Korea’s GDP is more than ten times that of Egypt’s and the gap is growing by the day.

Err. Oops. That was a mis-post, meant for another thread :) Too many windows open...

OldAtlantic:

"Surrender yourself to the LORD, and wait patiently for him." Psalm 37:7.

All 3 Abrahamic faiths hold to this philosophy.