Benedict Should Reject Pius

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Interestingly: Even Though Lesbians claim that Their Behaviour is 'safer' than a Man Homosexual relationship THAT

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MOZEUS or JEZUES or MUHAMADZEUZ

VYASAZEUS or GAUTAMAZEUS,

PAGAN-ZEUS’s, WiCCAN-ZEUIS’s etc..??????? BUT,

MOZEUS or JEZUES or MUHAMADZEUZ or

(zero G-d ITSELF)

So, is it the "MESSAGE" as PROPHECY or is it the (cannot be and/or) thee PROPHET like Mr. Carbon Based ( ....)

VYASAZEUS or GAUTAMAZEUS, PAGAN-ZEUS’s, WiCCAN-ZEUIS’s etc..???????

Ye should be reluctant to call ye selves a JUDEO-Christ/JU/Islam etc. or VEDiC Hindu/Buddha etc!

or JEZUES or MUHAMADZEUZ or

God ITSELF MOZEUS

So, is it the "MESSAGE" as PROPHECY or is it the cannot be and/or Prophet like Mr. Carbon Based zero

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Another thread destroyed by the madman.

Bloggers, read "Hitler's Pope" by John Cornwell, a man so dedicated to his Catholic faith that he was given access to the Vatican archives, where he found the scandalous material for his book.

Mr. Elie Wiesel, Shalom Adon!

Looks like reports of your death are greatly exaggerated, and I'm very pleased. Such a mensch!

Perhaps you should explain to the readers that Pope Pius XXII made an unholy pact with Hitler, who outwitted him on the agreement. "Hitler's Pope" didn't care about the lives of Jews as long as Catholics were saved harmless.

Keep up the good fight. Mazel tov!

Read about Pius (Cardinal Pacelli's) collaboration with the Nazis.

As James Carroll said the other night,
He may not be a war criminal,
but he was no saint.

Mr. Wiesel's answer had nothing to do with the question. In any event, he is on the losing side on this one. The Vatican is going ahead with the beatification process of Pope Pius XII and no amount of unsubstantiated criticism is going to stop it. He was a great man--no one did more to rescue Jews than he did. Pius was a "Righteous Gentile."

Dear Mr. Wiesel,

I am hopeful you will not read these posts, even if it means missing the Passover Greetings, since I'm sure you have received more than enough of them.

As you know, it isn't that there aren't any decent Catholics or Christians in the universe. It's just that very few of them seem to find their way to this blog.

I hope you come to this post first, that is, if you do choose to read the "comments." Another option is to just scroll down until you see Passover Greetings and good wishes.

Observer12

Mr. Pope

Happy Passover to you, sir. G-d bless you and your family.

What an ignorant answer! Someone not American or Catholic shouldn't even be asked this question-much less someone who persists in believing the nonsense against Pius XII.

Dear Mr. Wiesel,

Chag Pesach Sameach to you and your family, and many, many more to come.

With gratitude,
Jack

Dear Mr. Wiesel,

Chag Pesach Sameach!!

Baruch HaShem for having given you to the world, sir.

Barbara

Leonard - welcome to the caustic drivel. You've done your part. Brotherly sentiments are no cloak for sarcasm. We need more than uppity criticism and sanctimonious platitudes these days.

Ethnocentric translation:

Is it good for the Jews???

A wonderfully irrelevant answer to a marvelously asinine question.

how in the world will abandoning efforts to confer sainthood upon pius possibly reapir rifts in the catholic community?

your answer bears no relation to the question-

Oy vey.. too much contrived ignorance and willful blindness indulged in by the posters to these threads. You may enjoy writing and posting but who enjoys reading the caustic drivel that flows here?

No one ever heard?!

-Who is the bravest hero?

The answer is:

-He who turns his enemy into a friend..

The Pontiff is just another guy in fancy clothes - believe him at your peril. He's a front man for a major political organization, nothing more nor less. Bestowing sainthood on preceeding popes, however undeserving, is merely the performance of a political and bureaucratic function - preserving the unbroken continuation of an ancient authoritarian and monarchical hierarchy with a very spotty track record on human rights.

The Papacy has fallen short on many occasions when humanitarian compassion should have been the preeminent concern. This is certainly true from ancient to modern times. As a modern Pope, John XXIII stands out as a rare and singular Pontiff with true ecumenical leanings - a liberal among ultra-conservatives you might say. Quite a contrast from Benedict indeed.

In the past, the Popes (sainted and otherwise) were busy expunging heretics by burning them at the stake - whereas Pious XII was merely guilty of larely ignoring the greatest atrocity of man against man in modern times. His preoccupation with Russia and communism were said to be one reason why he took the low road with his faint hearted opposition to the Nazis.

For this he should be sainted?? And where exactly were the requisite miracles required for sainthood??? Sainthood seems a bit overrated these days.........

Chag Pesach Sameach, Mr. Wiesel.

G-d bless you.

Ilan

RIP, eh?

You do get very angry when someone points out your hypocrisy, don't you little Ilan?

Ha!

PS - you, Ilan, would have made a great Jacobin or "know-nothing" with your anti-clerical zeal...

I have a feeling that your propaganda has nothing to do with defense of Judaism - a beautiful religion that Catholics owe our existence to - but, rather, to militant secularism and hatred of the Church.

Good luck to you - your likes (Jacobins and know-nothings) have been at it for 2000 years with no success.

Would that be the Christian (and Catholic) apartheid govenment, the one for which Ruth Fuerst gave her life, via a catholic bomb?

So, now, the German Christians, Catholics are nativists? It's not just Jews and Israelis you hate, but your co-religionists, as well?

Do you also hate the thirty-seven African nations who continued to trade with South Africa throughout its regime? Do you hate the American catholic Senate? The American christian House of Representatives? Etc.

Sorry, I'm bored.

Get over yourself, you arrogant fool.

RIP

I am not going to your Nativist German propaganda site...

However, I would recommend that you research Israel's lone support for the apartheid regime of South African during the early 80's - since you are so concerned for diplomacy and (nuclear) accords.

Speed123:

Did you read the concordats, I mentioned? When you have, then comment.

I can't go on all night posting to your various pseudonyms. Either you do want to understand, or you don't.

If and when, you get to the site, let us know.

I see your irrationality has caught up with you and your weak arguments, Ilan...

I am sure this will stoke your anti-catholic bigotries...

Also, as for concordats, the Vatican is a "state" - and similar to the role of Israel - its primary role is to secure the protection of Catholic citizens with governments across the globe...

Does the US have diplomatic relations with less than equitable states? Does Israel (South Africa in the 80s comes to mind)?

Why do you single out the Catholic state for criticism? I think I know why...

I rest my case.

"Get thee gone, Satan!"

And, RIP

The arrogance...the hubris...!

You, Ilan, are the anti-Catholic bigot...who uses selective history, propaganda, and falsehoods to slander and entire people.

And your own words describe your anti-catholic attitudes and bias:

"You know nothing. You have read nothing. You want to know nothing. You speak offensively and arrogantly regarding a man (Pope Pius) whose shoes you are not fit to shine."

Atone for your sins before you call on the sins of others...

To answer your first question, the answer is No. He has done much more than author Night. Ask the Kosovo Muslims, for example. What he has done would take a tome.

For insight into the falsehood about the "rescue," go to Concordat Watch, a German (not Jewish) site.

(Click on the tab at the right, Israel. After that, you might want to read about the Vatican's Concordat with the Ivory Coast, and its wretched dictator. You can read the full concordat.)

My problem with you is not that you are christian, catholic, or something else. My problem is that you are an ignorant fool, as you demonstrate here. You are a bigot.

You know nothing. You have read nothing. You want to know nothing. You speak offensively and arrogantly, on a first name basis, with a man whose shoes you are not fit to shine.

Get over yourself.

"You do not belong in the same universe with this man, Eli Wiesel."

Is this because I am not jewish?

I know this man, author of "Night," and I know that he is not worthy of slandering the remembrance Pope Pius - a man who did all that he could to help those in horrible circumstances during a horrible war.

Ask the Israelis about the 820,000 trees planted in the name of Pius - for is actions in saving the lives of Jews persecuted across Europe.

Rewrite history on your own time and account for your own sins.

Happy Passover, Mr. Wiesel--der Mentsch!

"Der mentsh trakht, un Got lakht"

Jake

My name is Ilan. As for pigs in a sty, you have said it. Try to read the entire post, as I read it.

Do you understand, do you know the identity of the person to whom you are speaking?

You do not belong in the same universe with this man, Eli Wiesel.

Lillian writes: "...to speak to pigs in a sty is generous."

Are you calling the other posters - who disagree with Elie's preposterous demand - "pigs"???

Typical....

Happy Passover, Mr. Wiesel. G-d bless you and your family.

B'ezrat HaShem, many more!

Liora

Happy Passover, Mr. Wiesel. May HaShem bless you for all the gifts you have given to the earth.

A joyous, happy, healthy Passover, Mr. Wiesel.

בעזרת השם
Many, many more.

Farnaz

A joyful Passover, Mr. Wiesel. G-d bless you and your family. For Tikkun Olam, sir, we are grateful and deeply indebted to you.

Serena

A happy and healthy Passover, Mr. Wiesel. God bless you.

Mr. Wiesel,

I pray that you do not read these comments. If you do, recognize to whom you speak, sir.

For someone of your unique stature to speak to pigs in a sty is generous, but unnecessary. Give yourself some well deserved peace.

Leave the fray for younger men like me. Your struggles have not been in vain. Your truths have been heard. Your kindnesses have been felt. Even those from Kosovo who are here now, remember you coming to them in the midst of the fray.

Have a peaceful and beatiful Passover. May G-d be with you, Eliyahu, now and always.

Ilan

'Odem yesode meofe vesofe leofe' -

Beyno..lveyno iz gut a trink bronfn.

Biz hundert oon tzvontzik, Elie Wiesel.

Benedict needs to do a whole lot more than to stop the canonization of one undeserving pope. He needs to come to grips with the flaws and errors in his and all religions.

For those that have not seen the synopsis of said flaws and errors in contemporary religions:

1. Abraham founder/father of three major religions was either the embellishment of the lives of three different men or a mythical character as was Moses, the "Tablet-Man" who talked to burning bushes and made much magic in Egypt.

1.5 million Conservative Jews and their rabbis have relegated Abraham to the myth pile along with most if not all the OT.
simpletoremember.com/vitals/ConservativeTorah.htm

2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a mamzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). Analyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, On Faith panelists) via the NT and related documents have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hittites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics. earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

For added "pizzazz", Catholic/Christian theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

3. Luther, Calvin, Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley et al, founders of Christian-based religions, also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immaculate conceptions).

4. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/ plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" aka "pretty wingie thingies"and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

This agenda continues as shown by the assassination of Bhutto, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, and the Filipino “koranics”.

And who funds these acts of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

5. Hinduism (from an online Hindu site) - "Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centered and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’."

The caste/laborer system and cow worship are problems when saying a fair and rational God founded Hinduism."

6. Buddhism- "Buddhism began in India about 500 years before the birth of Christ. The people living at that time had become disillusioned with certain beliefs of Hinduism including the caste system, which had grown extremely complex. The number of outcasts (those who did not belong to any particular caste) was continuing to grow."
"However, in Buddhism, like so many other religions, fanciful stories arose concerning events in the life of the founder, Siddhartha Gautama (fifth century B.C.):"

Archaeological discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart from the legends we know very little about the circumstances of his life. e.g. Buddha by one legend was supposedly talking when he came out of his mother's womb.

Bottom line for the Benedict's perusal: There are many good ways of living but be aware of the hallucinations, embellishments, lies and myths surrounding the founders and foundations of said rules of life.

Hey, at least Christopher Hitchens posted more than one sentence.

"Does one begin with communiques from priests begging for help, describing the scale of the horrors to said Pope?"

Should the pope have sent his non-existent legions to fight Protestant Germany?

Hitler specifically called the Catholic Church an enemy of the state which "seeks to destroy us."

Do you think under, the circumstances, the pope could have done anything other than enrage the Germans further and cause the mass slaughter of Catholics residing within Nazi territory...

700,000 Jews were saved in Italy by the Church - btw!

Catholics helped where they could, to say otherwise or to overemphasize the influence of the Church is to falsify history and deal in anti-Catholic canards...

It is almost incredible to me that the discussion of canonizing Pius XII continues, given the mass of evidence against him as a responsible leader during the Shoah, so massive that there is no way of even beginning to present it here. And it began to come to light during the genocide.

Does one begin with communiques from priests begging for help, describing the scale of the horrors to said Pope? Does one move on the the nazi clerics within the Vatican, who protected fleeing nazis from facing justice?

The beginning would probably be Susan Zucotti, Under His Very Window.

Canonizing this man, blinding themselves will not do the Catholics any good. They place themselves in far more danger than they place Jews. The imperil their God-given gifts of the capacity to understand, to distinguish right from wrong, to exercise freedom of choice.

Hey, the WAPO posts the garbage from Hitchens so what can you expect?

As for elli, come on, enough with the "demands" on other people and how about a little introspection yourselves.

I can't believe that a newspaper like the Post would allow the kind of obscene garbage that appears from the one poster who responded to Elie Wiesel. Isn't there a promise above that profanity and inappropriate comments will be removed from this site?