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Eboo Patel

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U.S. Reaching Out to the Muslim World

A few weeks ago, Obama made a big statement by conducting his first interview after taking office with Al-Arabiya, an Arab TV network. In the interview, he said: "My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy...But ultimately, people are going to judge me not by my words but by my actions and my administration's actions."

And this is the part that I hung on to - Obama's desire to reach out to the Muslim world is not a rhetorical gesture, but a concrete initiative. And he's making it happen already.

On Wednesday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton traveled to Jakarta in Indonesia as part of an effort to honor the hard-won democracy of the country and to include the oft-neglected region of Southeast Asia. She said: "If you want to know if Islam, democracy, modernity and women's rights can coexist, go to Indonesia."

Yesterday, Gaza had three American visitors - Senator John Kerry, (chair of the Foreign Relations Committee), Rep. Brian Baird, and Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim in Congress. It has been more than three years since the last American government official visited Gaza, and about nine since the last American legislator set foot there. It seems like Obama wasn't kidding around when he promised greater outreach to the Muslim world.

Moreover, the activity so far corresponds with several recommendations from the US-Muslim Engagement Project Report, published in September 2008 through a partnership between Search for Common Ground and Consensus Building Institute. Two of the report's recommendations are to "elevate diplomacy as the primary tool for resolving key conflicts involving Muslim countries, engaging both allies and adversaries in dialogue" and "Improve mutual respect and understanding between Americans and Muslims around the world." The U.S. has a long way to go in making these recommendations reality, but these early trips are a start.

In his inaugural address, Obama promised the Muslim world that America would extend a hand; I hope what we have seen so far is just the beginning.

By Eboo Patel  |  February 20, 2009; 9:53 AM ET  | Category:  Religion & Leadership , Religion & Politics , Religious Conflict
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"In his inaugural address, Obama promised the Muslim world that America would extend a hand; I hope what we have seen so far is just the beginning."

Oh gee, will that mean beheadings, female genitalia mutilation, old men marrying prepubescent girls, beating of women for any reason?

Yes, Imam Obama bring it on, bring it on! We want more of that here in the land of the free!

Posted by: bbennett1 | February 26, 2009 2:40 PM
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Are the hindus any different?

The answer is big NO. They are extremists and till today exists in indian society in the shape of RSS and other such outfits.
The history too shows such roots.
"April 30,1908 the first bomb to take British lives was thrown by khudiram bose in bengal.....killing to british women travelling in a closed carriage.
The british newspaper pioneer, demanded the arrest of all "terrorists."
Further
The miltants trained to fight in east pakistan in 1971 was trained by the indian government- This the real face to hindu machoism, how anyone can claim that the hindus are a "innocent" species.

Posted by: SPARK1 | February 26, 2009 12:28 PM
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HSNKHWJ,

Truth will always defeat your vitriol. Facts defeated your name-calling. Your anger and hatred of Hindus arising from supremacist attitudes is obvious to anyone reading your diatribes in contrast to statements of facts.

It is quite revealing that you have not been able to respond to any FACTS about Hindus, but can only repeat the same baseless insults.

Muslims who pretend to be "moderate" such as yourself need to reconcile that facts and reality contradict your supremacist belief system. Only then will you start finding inner peace. I hope this helps.

Posted by: clearthinking1 | February 24, 2009 5:04 AM
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Clearthinking:

You are a Hindu zealot. In your zeal to promote "How Hinduism is great", just, and peaceful, you ended up hurting the image of Hindus and that of India.

People of sincere faith do not start attacking other faiths and other people. If you did not start attacking Muslims rhetorically, all the facts about Hindus would not have come out.

Hinduism was a mystery to most Americans. Now they know that Hindus of India are known for urine drinking, burning brides alive for the sake of dowry (It is never enough), burning widows alive in the name of sati, painting homes with cow dung, selling bottled cow urine as a soft drink, killing Mahatma Gandhi, genocide of Muslims in Gujarat (2002 riots), lying about the causes of those riots, burning Christian churches on Christmas day in 2007 in Orissa, burning down Christian churches from Orissa to Karnata, and not allowing Sonia Gandhi to become Prime Minister.

Next time you embark on this journey of rhetorically attacking momotheistic religions, think twice. Now you realize probably that giving up dentistry was not a good idea.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 23, 2009 10:22 AM
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Clearthinking:

You are a Hindu zealot. In your zeal to promote "How Hinduism is great", just, and peaceful, you ended up hurting the image of Hindus and that of India.

People of sincere faith do not start attacking other faiths and other people. If you did not start attacking Muslims rhetorically, all the facts about Hindus would not have come out.

Hinduism was a mystery to most Americans. Now they know that Hindus of India are known for urine drinking, burning brides alive for the sake of dowry (It is never enough), burning widows alive in the name of sati, painting homes with cow dung, selling bottled cow urine as a soft drink, killing Mahatma Gandhi, genocide of Muslims in Gujarat (2002 riots), lying about the causes of those riots, burning Christian churches on Christmas day in 2007 in Orissa, burning down Christian churches from Orissa to Karnata, and not allowing Sonia Gandhi to become Prime Minister.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 23, 2009 10:19 AM
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Sweet words lofty statements and mal-intentions is sheer hypocracy and hindus are masters in this art. There history is full of expliotation of the poor and deprived innocent people that is the reason the people of india always welcomed foreign invaders.

On this blog troubling by taking the cover of charter of human rights is another example of hypocracy.

Islam gave this charter 1415 years ago and the proof is the Last Sermon of Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

Below is a part of It.

“There is no God but Allah, the One; He fulfilled His promise and granted victory to His bondsman (Muhammad PBUH), and He alone routed the confederates (of the enemies of Islam). O’ People! Listen to my words, for I do not know whether we shall ever meet again and perform Hajj after this year.
1.O’ Ye people! Allah says, ‘O’ people We created you from one male and one female and made you into tribes and nations, so as to be known to one another. Verily in the sight of Allah, the most honoured amongst you is the one who is most God-fearing.’
2. There is no superiority for an Arab over a non-Arab and for a non-Arab over an Arab, nor for the white over the black nor for the black over the white except in God-consciousness.
3.All mankind is the progeny of Adam and Adam was fashioned out of clay.
4.Behold; every claim of privilege whether that of blood or property, is under my heels except that of the custody of the Kaaba and supplying of water to the pilgrims, O’ people of Quraish, don’t appear (on the Day of Judgment) with the burden of this world around your necks, whereas other people may appear (before the Lord) with the rewards of the hereafter. In that case I shall avail you naught against Allah.
5.O people of Quraish! Allah has put an end to your conceit and there is no room for you to be proud of the accomplishments of your forefathers.
6.O’ people! Verily your blood, your property and your honor are sacred and inviolable until you appear before your Lord, as the sacred inviolability of this day of yours, this month of yours and this very town (of yours). Verily you will soon meet your Lord and you will be held answerable for your actions.
7.Take heed not to go astray after me and strike one another’s necks.

Posted by: SPARK1 | February 23, 2009 4:32 AM
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Let me remind you that social injustices and discrimination exist in all societies, especially poor and developing economies. That does not mean that they are not making rapid progress.
Let me remind you that you are again using rare events or unusual behavior to rationalize you supremacist Islamic beliefs. This is in the face of obvious and overwhelming facts about the extent of discrimination in a Hindu nation like India versus a Muslim nation like Pakistan.
Let me remind you that Pakistan was 40% Hindu 60 years ago, now it is 1%. The number of minorities in all Islamic nations -whether Coptic Christians in Egypt or Zorastrians in Iran or Hindus in Pakistans or Jews in any Islamic country - seem to be mysteriously diminishing.
Let me remind you that the percentage of Muslims in India, US, Canada, and European nations has been stable in the same time, not rapidly diminished.
Let me remind you that I have stated verifiable facts, and you only knowingly list infrequent or exceptional behaviors. This is typical behavior of a prejudiced and supremacist mind.
Let me finish with quote from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights: "All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood."
Can you name any Islamic nation that this reminds you of? Any nation where women, Jews, Christians, Hindus have been treated as free and equal in dignity and rights?

Posted by: clearthinking1 | February 22, 2009 9:54 PM
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HSNKHWJ,

Let me remind you, my supremacist Islamic friend, that the Indian Constitution written by Hindus DOES guarantee equality. The only exception (surprise!) is the muslims who demanded special rights because they are so special (supremacist males).
Let me also remind you that the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan specifically promotes Islam above other religions.
Let me remind you that most Islamic nations do not have constitutions or democracy.
Let me remind you that Women (half of the human beings in any society) have very limited rights in most Islamic societies.
Let me remind you that women such as Sonia Gandhi and Indira Gandhi are respected leaders.
Let me remind you that the current President of India is a Woman.
Let me remind you that the previous President of India was a Muslim, supported by the BJP.
Let me remind you that in most constitutional democracies a foreign born citizen like Sonia Ganddhi is prohibited from holding the highest office.
Let me remind you that in the U.S. Constitution it is expressly stated that the President must be born in the United States of America. This is not discriminatory, it is just rational.
Let me remind you that the U.S. Constitution describes a black male as 3/5 of a human being and may be owned as a slave. The constitution was later ammended.
Let me remind you that PEACEFUL AND TOLERANT SOCIETIES MAKE PROGRESS, like the U.S. and India. Intolerant societies deteriorate and fall behind like Pakistan and most Islamic nations.

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Posted by: clearthinking1 | February 22, 2009 9:52 PM
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Clearthinking:

Let me remind you and the readers that the very first article of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states:

"All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood."

My question to you is: In Hindu society, are all human beings born free and equal in dignity and rights? Is Hinduism compatible with the very first Article of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Hindus of India are known for urine drinking, burning brides alive for the sake of dowry (It is never enough), burning widows alive in the name of sati, painting homes with cow dung, selling bottled cow urine as a soft drink, killing Mahatma Gandhi, genocide of Muslims in Gujarat (2002 riots), lying about the causes of those riots, burning Christian churches on Christmas day in 2007 in Orissa, burning down Christian churches from Orissa to Karnata, and not allowing Sonia Gandhi to become Prime Minister.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 22, 2009 4:58 PM
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Clearthinking:

Let me remind you and the readers that the very first article of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states:

"All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood."

My question to you is: In Hindu society, are all human beings born free and equal in dignity and rights? Is Hinduism compatible with the very first Article of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Hindus of India are known for urine drinking, burning brides alive for the sake of dowry (It is never enough), burning widows alive in the name of sati, painting homes with cow dung, selling bottled cow urine as a soft drink, killing Mahatma Gandhi, genocide of Muslims in Gujarat (2002 riots), lying about the causes of those riots, burning Christian churches on Christmas day in 2007 in Orissa, burning down Christian churches from Orissa to Karnata, and not allowing Sonia Gandhi to become Prime Minister.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 22, 2009 4:57 PM
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HSNKHWJ,
Your are misinformed and see facts as disinformation.

For example, you have facts and logic completely backward about aryans and nazis. Please study the history of the Nazi and Aryan movement in Germany. You will easily realize that this supremacist movement started after Sir William Jones created the idea of an aryan invasion in 1786. The swastika used by the nazis was borrowed in the 1800s from the Hindus who have been using it for ovr 7000 years, and it is a mirror image. So, to trying to make a connection between a linguistically based theory from 1786 about an aryan invasion 7000 years ago and the Nazi regime in germany is simply illogical.

Mahatma Gandhi was not alone in his nonviolent struggle. He literally had tens or hundreds of millions of followers. Godse was am exception. It is interesting that you choose to pick out rare and sometimes trivial exceptions to support you thesis that Hindus are just as violent as Muslims.

Christians have a peaceful existence in India inspite of their perpetual tendency of proselytizing and supremacist attitude. Sonia Gandhi is the most powerful politician in India and is Christian. Her son Rahul Gandhi is an aspiring PM candidate and is a Christian. Several defence ministers have been Christians. Christians are 1-2% of the population of India, similar to Pakistan. Can you imagine similar opportunities for Christian politicians in Pakistan? The fact about Hindu tolerance is obvious.

Your argument about skin color reveals that you don't have training in biology or science. Read the recent news about how rapidly skin color can change in humans. Our current knowledge of human skin pigmentation and changes argues against your thesis. Here's a link: www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100057939&ft=1&f=1007

I have mentioned before, the only time Hindus have reacted violently has been in self-defence. For example, after the Godra train burning by LOCAL muslims, they reacted. After LOCAL Sikhs killed Prime Minister Gandhi, they reacted. After LOCAL Christians in Orissa killed a Hindu leader, they reacted. Otherwise, minorities of all types have lived in peace among Hindus for thousands of years. It is no accident that Zorastrians survive only in India among Hindus and not in their homeland. Jains, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jews, Christtians, Muslims, Atheists have a refuge among Hindus.

Exploiting and trying to take advantage of the generosity of these tolerant and peaceful Hindu people is inexcusable.
SATYAM VIJAYTE !

Posted by: clearthinking1 | February 22, 2009 2:21 PM
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Clearthinking,

Sharia law is about as primitive as there is. The liberals will be sorry for accepting tolerance and multi-culturalism.

I wonder what liberal women will think when they end up wearing burkas.

Posted by: mmm1110 | February 22, 2009 1:43 PM
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Obama is right that America is not an enemy of Muslims, but he forgot the other half of the equation. Muslims are an enemy of the United States of America. The only solution to the Muslim problem is for the U.S. government to launch nuclear strikes against the Middle East. Obama is too much of liberal to see the real solution.

Posted by: mmm1110 | February 22, 2009 1:38 PM
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Clearthinking:

You and your fantasies:

The only non-violent person among Hindus was Mahatma Gandhi. And he was killed by a violent Hindu, Nathu Ram Godse. Is this trivial?

Violent Hindus burnt down Christian churches in Orissa on Christmas day in 2007. Is this trivial?

Violent Hindus also burnt down Christian churches in 2008 from Orissa to Karnataka. Is this trivial?

The North Indians speak the Indo-European family of languages while Tamil, Telgu, Malayalam, and Kanada belong to the Dravidian family. Is this just a matter of interpretation?

You deny the aracheologically proven fact that the Indus Valley Civilization was Dravidian and not Aryan. Why do the Hindus of North India paint swastika (an Aryan and Nazi symbol) in the walls of their temples? Why is the skin complexion of North and South Indians different?

Believing in Vedanta is one thing but spreading disinformation is an entirely different matter.
SATYAM VIJAYTE !

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 22, 2009 9:33 AM
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A new history by Stanley Wolpert tells us how in 1908 in calcutta two white ladies were murdered by bomb blast in their carriage by hindu extemist and terrorist. The british governemtn first time use the word of terrorists for them at that time while condemning the attack.

Further the minorities lives in a state of fear in India and I myself witness this in Mumbai after roits in the muslims areas of Mumbai.

Posted by: SPARK1 | February 22, 2009 7:43 AM
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HSNKHWJ,
It's amusing to watch you try to claim that Hindus are not peaceful and tolerant, especially when compared to Muslims. Good luck with that one.

Your mastery of trivia is revealing. You have the usual muslim obsessive compulsive disorder which comes from a primitive yet supremacist religion. You need to put others down with trivial facts to maintain your supremacist beliefs about Islam in the face of obvious and overwhelming data.

Your trivial knowledge and reference to the aryan invasion theory and South Indians is also amusing. South and North Indians are Hindus, so I am not sure what your point is. Also, there is no archeological evidence that demonstrates the existence of "Aryans". This is an old theory created by Sir Willian Jones in 1786 based on his interest in linguistics. DNA studies have shown that haplotypes such Y R1a are prevalent throughout India and are have the highest density in Kashmir - higher than Ukraine and the Russian Steppes. So, "aryan invasion" has no basis in archeology or molecular biology. Historical linguistics is a field of interpretation and not science.

Now, back to the real problem: the intolerance and violence which is prevalent in Islam.
Experiments in political science are difficult, but Pakistan and India are a rare example. People of the same DNA and genes that share common languages, rituals, and cultures (e.g. Punjabi, Sindhi, etc..) are separated by religion. In just 60 years, there have been clear results.
India (based on Hinduism and Vedanta) is a tolerant, pluralistic, vibrant, nonaggressive democracy. Progress is seen in politics, economics, education, etc... India has had Presidents who are Muslim, Hindu, Dalit, female; Prime ministers who are Sikh, Hindu, female; Defense ministers who are Christian, Hindu, Sikh; powerful politicians are even Italian Catholics like Sonia Gandhi. More progress needs to made in many places in Indian society, but even in America Blacks had very limited rights till the 1960's and now Obama is president. TOLERANT, PEACEFUL SOCIETIES MAKE PROGRESS.
In contrast, Pakistan has become an increasingly intolerant and violent society. Pakistan used to have 40% Hindus, and now it is only 1%. The culture of Hindus of tolerance and peacefulness has made even Muslims in India relatively peaceful when compared with dominantly Islamic nations. What a difference an advanced culture and philosophy like Vedanta can make in people so similar as Indians and Pakistanis.

Posted by: clearthinking1 | February 21, 2009 3:31 PM
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Clearthinking wrote:


The caste system among Hindus originated after Aryan invasion. Aryans were the victorious and they treated different people differently and could exploit the underprivileged of the time. The caste system has persisted till this day.

Don't give your deceitful statement: "Hindus are peaceful" people. America and the world knows better.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 21, 2009 10:18 AM
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Clearthinking wrote:

"Hindus are a peaceful and tolerant people. Hinduism and it's philosophical source Vedanta have led to a tolerant and pluralistic society, and it has been the source of ideas like unity, meditation, yoga, ahimsa (nonviolence), vegetarianism, and respect for all living things. Hindus believe in nonviolence,...."

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That Hindus are peaceful and tolerant people is what you would like the world to believe. But this assertion is not supported by facts.

The only non-violent person among Hindus was Mahatma Gandhi. And he was killed by a violent Hindu, Nathu Ram Godse.

Violent Hindus burnt down Christian churches in Orissa on Christmas day in 2007.

Violent Hindus also burnt down Christian churches in 2008 from Orissa to Karnataka.

Hindus invented terrorism. Nearly 3000 years ago the Aryans invaded India committed genocide of the natives of India-- the Dravidians. Many Dravidians escaped to the South. Tamils, Telgus, Malaylam, and kannada speaking people are the original inhabitants of India.

They established the Hindu caste system by treating different groups differently. Caste system is still alive in India and is the major factor in politics there.

In 1984, a Hindu established a Hindu cult in Oregon and tried to commit the first incident of bioterrorism in America by poisoning food with salmonella in restaurants. They wanted to prevent ordinary Oregonians from voting. They wanted to capture power.

Don't give your deceitful statement: "Hindus are peaceful" people. America and the world knows better.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 21, 2009 10:04 AM
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Clearthinking wrote:

"Hindus are a peaceful and tolerant people. Hinduism and it's philosophical source Vedanta have led to a tolerant and pluralistic society, and it has been the source of ideas like unity, meditation, yoga, ahimsa (nonviolence), vegetarianism, and respect for all living things. Hindus believe in nonviolence,...."

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That Hindus are peaceful people is what you would like the world to believe. But this assertion is not supported by facts.

The only non-violent person among Hindus was Mahatma Gandhi. And he was killed by a violent Hindu, Nathu Ram Godse.

Violent Hindus burnt down Christian churches in Orissa on Christmas day in 2007.

Violent Hindus also burnt down Christian churches in 2008 from Orissa to Karnataka.

Hindus invented terrorism. Nearly 3000 years ago the Aryans invaded India committed genocide of the natives of India, the Dravidians. Many escaped to the South. Tamils, Telgus, Malaylam, and kannada speaking people are the original inhabitants of India.

In 1984, a Hindu established a Hindu cult in Oregon and tried to commit the first incident of bioterrorism in America by poisoning food with salmonella in restaurants. They wanted to prevent ordinary Oregonians from voting. They wanted to capture power.

Don't give your deceitful statement: "Hindus are peaceful" people. America and the world knows better.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 21, 2009 9:55 AM
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Clearthinking wrote:

"Hindus are a peaceful and tolerant people. Hinduism and it's philosophical source Vedanta have led to a tolerant and pluralistic society, and it has been the source of ideas like unity, meditation, yoga, ahimsa (nonviolence), vegetarianism, and respect for all living things. Hindus believe in nonviolence,...."

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That Hindus are peaceful people is what you would like the world to believe. But this assertion is not supported by facts.

The only non-violent person among Hindus was Mahatma Gandhi. And he was killed by a violent Hindu, Nathu Ram Godse.

Violent Hindus burnt down Christian churches in Orissa on Christmas day in 2007.

Violent Hindus also burnt down Christian churches in 2008 from Orissa to Karnataka.

Hindus invented terrorism. Nearly 3000 years ago the Aryans invaded India committed genocide of the natives of India, the Dravidians. Many escaped to the South. Tamils, Telgus, Malaylam, and kannada speaking people are the original inhabitants of India.

In 1984, a Hindu established a Hindu cult in Oregon and tried to commit the first incident of bioterrorism in America by poisoning food with salmonella in restaurants. They wanted to prevent ordinary Oregonians from voting. They wanted to capture power.

Don't give your deceitful statement: "Hindus are peaceful" people. America and the world knows better.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 21, 2009 9:52 AM
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HSNKHWJ,

You can rant, deflect & mock. But violence is serious for mature people.
Hindus are a peaceful and tolerant people. Hinduism and it's philosophical source Vedanta have led to a tolerant and pluralistic society, and it has been the source of ideas like unity, meditation, yoga, ahimsa (nonviolence), vegetarianism, and respect for all living things. Hindus believe in nonviolence, but they also believe in self-defence. Muslims, Sikhs, and many others have misunderstood this at times, but they eventually learn the lessons needed to live together in a society.
In Gujrat, the riots were in REACTION to the horrible murder of Hindu pilgrims by burning alive innocent women, children, and men by LOCAL muslims. When Pakistani muslims committed acts of terrorism like Mumbai, there were no riots. This is because Hindus are peaceful and reasonable. Also, Muslims in India are learning their lesson like the Sikhs. Sikhs with the support of Pakistani Muslims committed horrible acts of terrorism in the 1980's. They have now learned their lesson and are behaving as civilized members of society. The forgiving Hindus have even allowed a Sikh (2%) to become their Prime minister less than 20 years after Sikh terrorism. Can you imagine any Muslim country allowing a 2% minority Prime Minister soon after that same community participated in terrorism and asassination of a PM? No, only Hindus have such tolerance and understanding.

In general, Muslims in India have learned from Hindus how to live in a civilized manner. In contrast, muslim majority countries have no democracy or tolerance of minorities. Muslims in India have been Presidents, movie stars, tennis players, CEO's, cricket players etc... Meanwhile, Pakistan has gone from 40% Hindu to 1%, and is a failing state. Female muslims in India have more rights than in Muslim nations.
There are no known Al queda members from the Indian muslim community. This not a accident. It is the result of a millenia old Hindu culture which has allowed minorities such as muslims to have more political rights and economic oppportunities than is possible in Muslim countries.

Denying, covering up, and justifying violence is not the solution. Address the problem of Islamic terrorism and violence directly, for the sake of your daughters, sisters, wives, and mothers if nothing else. Finding small flaws in Hinduism may be fun, but it will never explain of correct the violence in Islam.

Posted by: clearthinking1 | February 21, 2009 12:19 AM
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FOR CLEARTINKING:

WhizNews
India to launch cow urine as soft drink
cow '9504' after she was milked on a farm in Stellenbosch
(Sasa Kralj/AP)
Welcome to your new vending machine...
Feb 11, 2009

Jeremy Page, Delhi
Does your Pepsi lack pep? Is your Coke not the real thing? India's Hindu nationalist movement apparently has the answer: a new soft drink made from cow urine.
The bovine brew is in the final stages of development by the Cow Protection Department of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), India's biggest and oldest Hindu nationalist group, according to the man who makes it.
Om Prakash, the head of the department, said the drink – called "gau jal", or "cow water" – in Sanskrit was undergoing laboratory tests and would be launched "very soon, maybe by the end of this year".
"Don't worry, it won't smell like urine and will be tasty too," he told The Times from his headquarters in Hardwar, one of four holy cities on the River Ganges. "Its USP will be that it's going to be very healthy. It won't be like carbonated drinks and would be devoid of any toxins."
The drink is the latest attempt by the RSS – which was founded in 1925 and now claims eight million members – to cleanse India of foreign influence and promote its ideology of Hindutva, or Hindu-ness.
Hindus revere cows and slaughtering them is illegal in most of India. Cow dung is traditionally used as a fuel and disinfectant in villages, while cow urine and dung are often consumed in rituals to "purify" those on the bottom rungs of the Hindu caste system.
In 2001, the RSS and its offshoots – which include the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party – began promoting cow urine as a cure for ailments ranging from liver disease to obesity and even cancer.
The movement has often been accused of using more violent methods, such as killing 67 Christians in the eastern state of Orissa last year, and assaulting women in a pub in Mangalore last month. It also has a history of targeting foreign business in India, as in 1994, when it organised a nationwide boycott of multinational consumer goods, including Pepsi and Coca Cola.
The cola brands are popular in India, now one of their biggest markets, but have struggled in recent years to shake off allegations, which they deny, that they contain dangerous levels of pesticide.
Mr Prakash said his drink, by contrast, was made mainly of cow urine, mixed with a few medicinal and ayurvedic herbs. He said it would be "cheap", but declined to give further details about its price or ingredients until it was officially launched.
He insisted, however, that it would be able to compete with the American cola brands, even with their enormous advertising budgets. "We're going to give them good competition as our drink is good for mankind," he said. "We may also think of exporting it."

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 20, 2009 10:30 PM
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Clearthinking: Did you read this article in HINDUSTAN TIMES?

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/Print.aspx?Id=e39183c8-2d68-48a3-b44d-e900fca3f7da

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 20, 2009 10:12 PM
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Just a few months ago newspapers in America reported that in a town in the Midwest (near Chicago), an Indian man had married a woman of different caste. The man was from a lower caste. The father of the girl was furious. He burned down the apartment ofthe young couple. She died.

Every now and then India's newspapers report young brides are burned alive in India for not bringing "enough" dowry.

Reports also surface from India, sons pushing their widowed mothers on the pyre in rituals called Sati. The widows are burned alive in sadistic way.

In Gujarat, India, fanatic Hindus are selling bottled cow urine as a soft drink.

Cleartinking: PHYSICIAN HEAL THYSELF.

Posted by: hsnkhwj | February 20, 2009 10:06 PM
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Eboo,
On Feb. 5, I wrote the following to you about justifying violence and beheading, prior to the wife beheading in Buffalo, NY.

"The issue you have chosen to write about is a very serious one. Many people around the world have given it a lot more thought than you have. The violence due to Islam is very real and painful for a lot of us.
Your approach to the problem of religious violence seems to be as an apologist for Islamic violence by calling it extremist or fringe. I know you want to believe that because of your identity confusion issues as an Indian muslim growing up in America.
Sadly, violence is at the heart of Islam. In almost all cultures today, children are taught to cherrish cute little lambs. In Islamic cultures, even children are taught to rejoice as lambs are ritualistically and religiously decapitated slowly, as their warm blood squirts everywhere, eyes full of terror, and voices squealing for their mothers.
Enough! Eboo. Enough warm and fuzzy statements. Enough deflections and obfuscations. Enough pretending that violence is not part of the core of Islam. You fool no one, but yourself.
You provide cover for some of your fellow muslims who have violence and hatred in their hearts, but they have you as their confused Indian apologist to provide cover. THIS is your crime.
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Posted by: clearthinking1 | February 20, 2009 9:36 PM
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Eboo,
On January 31, I wrote the follwing to you. It seems prescient given the wife beheading in Buffalo, NY last week by a Pakistani-American Muslim.

"The Muslim world should be the real target of your intrafaith dialogues for tolerance and peace. Make Islam less violent, and you will have done humanity a great favor.
Help Muslims reject violence for real. Just saying Islam is a religion of peace to other faiths will not work. For example, take concrete action like prohibiting the beheading of animals when celebrating Islamic festivals. This will lead to less beheading of humans (muslim and nonmuslim) in the Islamic world. Its not so hard if you are honest.JANUARY 31, 2009 8:42 PM | REPORT OFFENSIVE COMMENTS"

Posted by: clearthinking1 | February 20, 2009 9:27 PM
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Which "muslim world" is the US reaching out to?

Indonesia - recently passed a fatwa against yoga. Yes, you read that correctly. Can a religion be more intolerant, primitive, supremacist, and insecure?

Pakistan - Agreed to Sharia law to supercede their constitution in Swat. Poll: 76% of muslims in Pakistan want sharia. If your jaw doesn't drop, you don't know how primitive sharia law is.

Iran - nuclear weapons and elimination of Israel. Enough said.

Afghanistan - Taliban terrorism. Throwing acid on young girls because they want to go to school.

U.S.A. - "modern and moderate" muslim beheads his wife in Buffalo, NY.

Eboo writes: "Improve mutual respect and understanding between Americans and Muslims around the world". Key word is MUTUAL. A supremacist ideology like Islam cannot demonstrate mutual respect. So lets see if the yoga-banning "muslim world" that Eboo writes about can show MUTUAL respect.

Posted by: clearthinking1 | February 20, 2009 9:17 PM
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