Give the Gift of the Divine Feminine This Holiday
I count myself fortunate to be a child of many kinds of mothers and fathers when it comes to my spiritual life, both traditional and scholarly.
There was my immediate family of course, most specifically my Italian mother and grandmother who took charge of my religious education, stewing me in the Catholic tradition like the canned tomatoes that went into my mother’s sauce: Without much thought they just dumped me in and at the very start I was quite bitter.
When I was very small God was a bowler and definitely a he. During the worst of all summer thunderstorms when I huddled between my mother and father under the protection of their flowered bedspread, my father comforted my childish fears by explaining away each clap of thunder as “just God bowling” and every particularly loud, rolling crack as God bowling a strike.
In addition to his turn as a star bowler, God was invoked often and in a myriad of ways in my family, sometimes as kindly and loving, more often than not as a sort of Santa-figure who knew when I was naughty and nice and would act accordingly in response to my actions (hence the rather bitter beginning).
Though my parents passed on the richness of the Catholic tradition, with its stories, sacraments, pomp, and, most important to me, its thousands of saints that intercess on our behalf, as I got older my vision of God-as-watchful-old-man-in-the-sky became paper thin—so much so that as soon as my intellectual curiosity was piqued about life’s Biggest Questions, my child’s He-God disintegrated as quickly and painlessly as author Philip Pullman’s Authority-Angel at the end of The Amber Spyglass.
And I was left, at least for a good while in my college and twenty-something years, an atheist.
I have nothing against atheists per se, aside from now holding a strong belief that being an atheist is an extraordinarily difficult task: the diversity of theological interpretations of the divine—once you begin to wander among them—really narrow the possibilities for true atheism (sorry Mr. Harris) (editor's note: Sam Harris is another "On Faith" panelist.) Once you begin to talk of love, justice, and the dignity of human bodies, and when you move beyond exclusive notions of an all-powerful, male authority-figure God, you begin approaching what more recent theologians like Sandra Schneiders, Sallie McFague, and Dorothee Soelle (my academic mothers) understand as God, or more specifically, the feminine divine.
It was through these scholar-mothers (and my professors who introduced us) that my vision and relationship with God/dess was nursed back to health, and eventually encouraged to flourish even by my old-fashioned Catholic mother. She was simply thrilled to discuss God-as-she with me, just as long as I had re-opened the possibility of a relationship with the divine in my life.
So I learned quite late in my real mother’s life—though still rather early in mine—that God could have been many things when I was growing up. I just didn’t have the benefit of knowing the many possible and rich interpretations of my own faith’s vision of the divine—at least as varied in number as there are Catholic saints to pray to—until I went to graduate school for a Ph.D. in Religious Studies.
And now as a young woman scholar of religion, I am responsible for quite a good number of older children—college students, mostly young women—a large number of which are truly lost when it comes to their faith lives, and most of all, their relationships with God.
But they perk up when I ask them to set aside Old-Man-Gandalf in the sky for a moment, to then teach them about the many, alternative visions of the divine that come right from within the Christian tradition they are often so eager to forget. We begin considering new metaphors, feminine metaphors: a woman’s body-as-God, one that could take many forms: old, thin, plump, girlie, grandmotherly, of any possible ethnic background, among other particularities. And in these new possible “divinities,” many of my Women’s Spirituality students begin a relationship with this She-God they’d never before known they could consider.
We do not have to pass on a tradition to our children uncritically, and likewise, we do not have to pass down only a traditional notion of God.
I hope I am an example to my students—a “parent” of sorts—who has gone from believer to atheist and back again, and as a result, has something of value to pass on to them that most often goes un-discussed outside the halls of academe: the many possible divine interpretations lurking across theological discourse, most especially the feminine ones, because they are the ones that empower my beloved student-daughters.
Perhaps a conversation about the feminine divine might empower your daughters (and sons) this holiday season. I suggest interested parents start by reading Sandra Schneiders’s brief, accessible Women and the Word as a primer. And don’t worry: while the goddess may be old hat in Eastern traditions, the Divine-She fits right in with Judaism and Christianity, too.
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I have never read such explicitly misogynistic hatred directed at a woman. Some of you - "LAURA especially - go to great lengths to demean this accomplished woman.
If you think you are defending Catholicism, think again. You are merely showing that you take harmless contemporary theological speculations and reacted to them as bigoted, hate-fulled people. Hate in the name of Christ - my God, what a tragedy! But such hatred is nothing new, is it? History has taught us to beware of your kind - you persecute as if YOU were assigned by God to judge others. Go away.
To the person who is implying that, although God does not have male genitals, he is somehow essentially male - go away. What is WRONG with you that you insist God must be male (and therefore superior to female)? Are you that insecure that you need the Diety to back up your value?
To those of you who take select verses from the Bible to beat up, condemn and hate other people - go away.
Professor Freitas, I am deeply sorry that you are exposed to such hatred & disrespect simply because you are a woman who dares to study and spead about theological questions.
Thank Whatever S/He Is that most people have an understanding of the value of your work. But reading this has increased my fear for us women should the haters ever again achieve the power to silence us.
I also love the writings of Dorothy Sollee - one of the idiot haters has no clue that she speaks much about the suffering of those who choose to feel compassion for "the least of these." Do these haters ever read the actual words of Jesus, for God's sake!
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I have never read such explicitly misogynistic hatred directed at a woman. Some of you - "LAURA especially - go to great lengths to demean this accomplished woman.
If you think you are defending Catholicism, think again. You are merely showing that you take harmless contemporary theological speculations and reacted to them as bigoted, hate-fulled people. Hate in the name of Christ - my God, what a tragedy! But such hatred is nothing new, is it? History has taught us to beware of your kind - you persecute as if YOU were assigned by God to judge others. Go away.
To the person who is implying that, although God does not have male genitals, he is somehow essentially male - go away. What is WRONG with you that you insist God must be male (and therefore superior to female)? Are you that insecure that you need the Diety to back up your value?
To those of you who take select verses from the Bible to beat up, condemn and hate other people - go away.
Professor Freitas, I am deeply sorry that you are exposed to such hatred & disrespect simply because you are a woman who dares to study and spead about theological questions.
Thank Whatever S/He Is that most people have an understanding of the value of your work. But reading this has increased my fear for us women should the haters ever again achieve the power to silence us.
I also love the writings of Dorothy Sollee - one of the idiot haters has no clue that she speaks much about the suffering of those who choose to feel compassion for "the least of these." Do these haters ever read the actual words of Jesus, for God's sake!
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Bravo. There is indeed great room for discovering the Sacred Feminine hiding inside our great traditions.
In my studies and writings I find it very important to differentiate between biological sex (male/female), gender (societal norms for what is accepted behavior as man or a woman) and the Sacred Feminine Principle and the Sacred Masculine Principle (both are aspects of Source, The One).
Perhaps because as humans we find ourselves divided in two sexes, we have divided the Divine, and it seems, played favorites depending on which sex happens to be in charge.
Truthfully, both men and women are in desperate need of the Whole-ly Spirit, the truest, deepest understanding of the Divine Force behind all of life; one that balances reverence for the physical and the spiritual, the rational and the intuitive; one that is both transcendent and immanent. Perhaps then we will find some sense of collective inner-peace and live up to the promise of having been created in the image and likeness of the Divine.
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Bravo. There is indeed great room for discovering the Sacred Feminine hiding inside our great traditions.
In my studies and writings I find it very important to differentiate between biological sex (male/female), gender (societal norms for what is accepted behavior as man or a woman) and the Sacred Feminine Principle and the Sacred Masculine Principle (both are aspects of Source, The One).
Perhaps because as humans we find ourselves divided in two sexes, we have divided the Divine, and it seems, played favorites depending on which sex happens to be in charge.
Truthfully, both men and women are in desperate need of the Whole-ly Spirit, the truest, deepest understanding of the Divine Force behind all of life; one that balances reverence for the physical and the spiritual, the rational and the intuitive; one that is both transcendent and immanent. Perhaps then we will find some sense of collective inner-peace and live up to the promise of having been created in the image and likeness of the Divine.
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Donna,
I want to know how you think you're going to get tenure at a Catholic college with the sort of mindless nonsense you've written? All you are is a still-rebellious (and proud of it) little girl, who's still thumbing her not-very-pretty nose at the "man." Grow up.
Posted by: Laura | January 30, 2007 3:31 PM
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Victoria wrote:
"in regards to ms. freitas, it is hardly an endorsement of her capacity to have anything valuable to spiritual inquiry- if she had to wait til she got to graduate school to discover that the Creator contains within it the obvious feminine principle."
And yet most people had to wait for Dan Brown to tell them so.
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G-d is.
We do not have the words to describe G-d. Words such as 'man' 'woman' 'father' and 'mother' cannot describe G-d. They are too small.
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Since there is no pronoun for god- the Qur'an is written with the male pronoun but it is clearly and definitively accepted among all muslims that ALLAH is non-gender specific. It is this aspect that gives the Qur'an its truly consistent and egalitarian ideology. God is not human and is not limited by sex or race or any of the other categories that humans use to differentiate themselves- so the deeper and abstract message contained within are what we preoccupy ourselves with.
in regards to ms. freitas, it is hardly an endorsement of her capacity to have anything valuable to spiritual inquiry- if she had to wait til she got to graduate school to discover that the Creator contains within it the obvious feminine principle.
also, you let others tell you that you have something of value to impart- when you proclaim it about yourself- you negate the proclamation itself.
Posted by: victoria | December 16, 2006 7:08 PM
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since there is no pronoun for god the quran uses the masculine pronoun but it is clearly understood that ALLAH is non-gender specific, also non racial- or any other category that humans distinguish each other with- because ALLAH is not human- which gives the quran its egalitarian features and allows for its' great deep and abstract instruction not possible when god is limited by physical characteristics.
peace
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MATT tells us: We have to choose whether to believe that the words of the Bible are purely mankind's thoughts, or whether they are God's (this is the same with other Scriptures). Even if we believe the words are God's, we have to trust that human authors wrote them down correctly,
Ann replies: Hi, again, Matt.
Where in the Bible itself does it tell us concerning God's words that "we have to trust that human authors wrote them down correctly"? I've never heard that it says that anywhere. Before science was given to us, the Bible said (and still says) that the Sun rose. But now we know that is not literally true.
It seems to me that you want to believe the Bible is all literally true, but that it speaks only analogously at other times. I don't see how you can have it both ways.
If Ihave misinterpreted what you're saying and you don't think it is all literally true, then how do you tell the difference between its literally true statements (e.g., Paul was converted) and those which you think aren't literally true?
Ann O.
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MATT tells us: On the other hand, God is Spirit. Whoever noted that God doesn't have a body was correct. This leaves us with a question: What does it mean that God teaches us through the Bible that he is masculine? I'm going to leave you with that question, but I can tell you that the Bible is not trying to say that God has male reproductive organs. Do other possibilities leave you confused? Well, if so, don't decide that God is feminine or gender-neutral just so that you don't feel so confused. If you care about the truth, you have to actually search the Scriptures to see what they are trying to teach us about God by calling him "him."
Ann O. replies: I'm glad you see that calling God "Father" AND pure spirit presents a problem if you take "Father" literally. I only ask why if God doesn't have female characteristics He is referred to as "like a mother hen". It seems obvious to me that the Bible says He has female characteristics. In other words, talk about God is very special, and we'd do well to *all* be humble when we try to fathom His meanings. To paraphrase you,if you care about the truth, you have to actually search the Scriptures to see what they are trying to teach us about God by saying "He" is "Wisdom" ("Sophia", i.e., a female). In other words, He/She is *both* a masculine and a feminine Spirit. No, He is not a woman. But neither is He a man (except that Jesus is).
The analogy of calling Him "Father" is just as much an analogy as the analogy of calling Him "Sophia". Perhaps you need to search the meanings more carefully, and perhaps He has sent Ms Freitas to help you :-)
(Thanks, Ms Freitas. Some of us do understand what you're getting at, though we don't agree with it all.)
Ann O.
Posted by: Ann O. | December 16, 2006 12:31 PM
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There have been several good points made throughout this discussion. 1. At some point, each of us must choose to trust others. We have to choose whether to believe that the words of the Bible are purely mankind's thoughts, or whether they are God's (this is the same with other Scriptures). Even if we believe the words are God's, we have to trust that human authors wrote them down correctly, and that scholars through the centuries have done their work in translation work, etc. 2. What we believe Scripture teaches makes a difference in the way people live. 3. People may go too far in their application of religious teachings - for instance, I am sure that at some points in history women have been given the short end of the stick because of a Judeo-Christian view of God as masculine.
I would like to make another point. The fact that humans misapply their beliefs does not mean their beliefs are wrong. Despite claims above, the passages that suggest a "feminine" view of God are using feminine imagery to communicate his attributes, not his gender. The Bible consistently refers to God as masculine in normal narrative writing. On the other hand, God is Spirit. Whoever noted that God doesn't have a body was correct. This leaves us with a question: What does it mean that God teaches us through the Bible that he is masculine? I'm going to leave you with that question, but I can tell you that the Bible is not trying to say that God has male reproductive organs. Do other possibilities leave you confused? Well, if so, don't decide that God is feminine or gender-neutral just so that you don't feel so confused. If you care about the truth, you have to actually search the Scriptures to see what they are trying to teach us about God by calling him "him."
Posted by: Matt | December 16, 2006 12:35 AM
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There have been several good points made throughout this discussion. 1. At some point, each of us must choose to trust others. We have to choose whether to believe that the words of the Bible are purely mankind's thoughts, or whether they are God's (this is the same with other Scriptures). Even if we believe the words are God's, we have to trust that human authors wrote them down correctly, and that scholars through the centuries have done their work in translation work, etc. 2. What we believe Scripture teaches makes a difference in the way people live. 3. People may go too far in their application of religious teachings - for instance, I am sure that at some points in history women have been given the short end of the stick because of a Judeo-Christian view of God as masculine.
I would like to make another point. The fact that humans misapply their beliefs does not mean their beliefs are wrong. Despite claims above, the passages that suggest a "feminine" view of God are using feminine imagery to communicate his attributes, not his gender. The Bible consistently refers to God as masculine in normal narrative writing. On the other hand, God is Spirit. Whoever noted that God doesn't have a body was correct. This leaves us with a question: What does it mean that God teaches us through the Bible that he is masculine? I'm going to leave you with that question, but I can tell you that the Bible is not trying to say that God has male reproductive organs. Do other possibilities leave you confused? Well, if so, don't decide that God is feminine or gender-neutral just so that you don't feel so confused. If you care about the truth, you have to actually search the Scriptures to see what they are trying to teach us about God by calling him "him."
Posted by: Matt | December 16, 2006 12:35 AM
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i just read ms. freitas post again, and i try not to make judgements (personal anyway, but honestly- this is a really silly post. what is the criteria to be a panelist here? luckily people managed to have an intelligent exchange in spite of its inane ...
im too bored to finish
Posted by: victoria | December 14, 2006 11:41 PM
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Burton: Seventh-day Adventists don't refer to God as "Jehovah" -- not unless they're using the King James Version, anyway.
Could you have confused us with Jehovah's Witnesses?
Posted by: Greg Brothers | December 14, 2006 3:16 PM
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ANONYMOUS says: If you are a Christian and read this, it is clear that Jesus refers to God as "the Father". He also referred to God as "Abba, Father", our very dear and loving father. He should know, better than us. Better than any one else that has ever lived. He is God and was with God, before He came to this planet.
Ann O. responds: My point was that there is a very long tradition within Christianity which recognizes God as *both* male and female, father and mother, and it is based on the Bible itself. God's "gender" isn't a matter of either-or, it's a matter of both-and.
ANONYMOUS: Nearly all of these references, yours and mine, use the words "like", "as", "like as", or "such as" which are clear clues that the writer is going to refer to one object to decribe another. It does not mean the other object is the same and the one being referred to. These are metaphoric constructions. You interpret prophesy using these same principles.
Ann O: Of course they're metaphors. And so is "Father", unless you think that God the Father also has a human body, complete with all the parts that Jesus had. But that denies that He is pure spirit. And it makes you the heretic for being so literal minded.
ANONYMOUS: Do not listen to the opinions or philosophies of man. Listen to Christ, and Him alone.
Ann O." What do you mean "listen to Christ"? I can't, and neither can you. He's gone. All we have are the Scriptural quotations, and those require interpretation.
We aren't born knowing what those words mean, so how do we interpret them?? By trusting that the scholars are translating Him right, and, further back, we are dependent on Matthew, Mark, Luke and John *telling* us what He said. There is no such thing as "just listening to Christ". Every interpretation is dependent on the interpretations of others -- all those scholars through the centuries who made varied translations of the original Greek, which in turn were quotations of Jesus -- or *interpretations* of His words.
This is why so called "literal" interpretations of the Bible are themselves subject to error. We're all dependent on other people's interpretations of what we believe to be Jesus' own words.
Ann O.
Ann O.
Posted by: Ann O. | December 13, 2006 11:30 PM
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Hi John, first off, thanks for the little education. I understand and concur with what you write about male dominance in religion. But two wrongs don't make a right. Promoting a female version of God is just as wrong as promoting the male version. The right thing to do would be to promote a gender neutral view.
John, you ought to stop reading too much into what I write. First you imply that I am a religious nut (I am an atheist) and now you suggest I am a male chauvinist. What gives you the impression that I am condescending towards women? The "spokeswoman" comment? Puhleez - let's have a sense of humor OK? (for Gods sake! sorry Godess' sake!! :-)).
We need to stop quibbling about an unproven God's unknown gender or the number of angels on the head of a pin and instead focus on poverty, equality, liberty, disease, education, etc. etc. Peace!
Posted by: AB | December 13, 2006 10:57 PM
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AB: I can understand your not being familiar with the very well-established role (even centrality, to a degree) of the subjective and narrative in modern feminist theology--that may not be as commonly known outside the field as it is within it--but your argument about discussing gender and the divine at all being "silly" strikes me as awfully naive. As other people have already pointed out in these comments, and as hundreds of scholars have noted, there really can't be any question about the fact that men's power across the centuries has been hugely bolstered by, if not in some cases derived from, the notion of a male divine (with man made in His image). Would discussing gender and the divine be silly and meaningless were there no history and repercussions of viewing the divine as exclusively male? Maybe, but that's obviously not the world we live in.
Your condescension towards women ("sorry, I mean spokeswoman," etc.) indicates, like your post itself, that you don't realize or take seriously the power of words and images to influence perception and power. But those things matter, AB, and my suspicion is if you think about it a bit, you'll realize just how much they do.
Posted by: John Stanley | December 13, 2006 4:08 PM
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John: There is a logical fallacy in your "Favorite remark" remark: Religious nuts like to attack Donna. AB attacks Donna. AB must be a religious nut.
Anyway, I was referring to right-wingers attacking academics. If academics are more humble, more scholarly and more in pursuit of truth, they can better stand on their ground when attacked. To me this God-gender discussion is so shallow in philosophy - first of all we don't know whether a God (atleast the version espoused by major religions) exists. Even if it exists, does it necessarily require a gender? Doesn't it occur to you as completely silly, any discussion of its gender? Her whole article is so colored by her personal upbringing and education, whereas objective reality requires a point of view that is not tied to ourselves. She also makes the argument that the field is "narrow" for atheists because of all the different interpretations of the "divine". So basically if one is walking around and finding garbage all around, one better take the garbage because that is more common? Is that a scholarly argument? Sorry I went a little too harsh in my previous email. I am no expert in this field and seek no recognition. I am just commenting on Donna and her article. I am not insecure as you suggest (I have a Ph.D. as well but in a scientific field, and no, that does not make me feel very secure and I don't usually flaunt it at the first opportunity). Peace!
Posted by: AB | December 13, 2006 12:32 PM
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I'm always struck by how much fear and hatred ideas like Freitas's can elicit from "true believers" on faith-oriented boards. Why so filled with rage, Anonymous 5:48 and AB? Is your faith (or intellectual self-esteem, AB!) that fragile? It's obviously not Freitas's piece, which is neither revolutionary nor particularly controversial, that's setting you off. (Unless of course you've had your head so buried in the Bible that you haven't looked up in about 40 years, in which case her ideas must be shocking! Of course, then you'd likely have better absorbed its messages of kindness and peace, so that can't be right....) :) So what is it, really? Is it that a woman expert (who looks to be a relatively young woman, to boot) in religious studies is so threatening? Or is it some sort of frustration at not being recognized as an expert yourself? Your insecurities are showing more than you want them to.
(Favorite remark: after attacking Freitas, AB says that she is the type "religious nuts" like to attack. LOL.)
Posted by: John Stanley | December 13, 2006 11:56 AM
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Ann O:
I care not for Medieval writings or for mystics. We have polluted our faith because we listen to such witchcraft. Babylonians believed in the Mother and Child religion, but it also has nothing to do with Christianity. Its revival in so called "christianity" is another way for our enemy to deceive us.
Since you and your sources seem to know the Bible, let me challenge you with this verse:
John 14:9 - Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? If you are a Christian and read this, it is clear that Jesus refers to God as "the Father". He also referred to God as "Abba, Father", our very dear and loving father. He should know, better than us. Better than any one else that has ever lived. He is God and was with God, before He came to this planet.
God is referred to in many ways in the Bible. He is called a "all consuming fire" yet we do not refer to Him as such. He is also the "cloud by day" and the "pillar of fire" by night. We do not call him a cloud. Nearly all of these references, yours and mine, use the words "like", "as", "like as", or "such as" which are clear clues that the writer is going to refer to one object to decribe another. It does not mean the other object is the same and the one being referred to. These are metaphoric constructions. You interpret prophesy using these same principles.
To take clear metaphoric references, such as the ones we have listed, and refer to them as fact to describe the gender of God is wreckless and heretical. You would do well to re-evaluate your position. Do not listen to the opinions or philosophies of man. Listen to Christ, and Him alone.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 13, 2006 10:24 AM
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Once religious scholars and laiety have fully discussed the gender of God, perhaps they will take up another worthy issue: How many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
Posted by: E. Favorite | December 13, 2006 10:18 AM
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I believe we were all created spiritually prior to our physical creation. In this sense we literally have two sets of parents. One divine from our spiritual creation and one set of mortal and imperfect parents. In this sense we are all truly brothers and sisters. The nature of God question is the most important one in the scriptures and in order to have strong faith (the kind which can transform all of your desires to righteous good actions), one must truly understand and get to know their Father in Heaven! God, Christ (Jehovah) and the Holy Spirit all have important roles in our Heavenly Fathers plan for his children. The fact that God calls us His children says that we also have a Heavenly Mother. We don't have a definitive answer as to why She is not directly mentioned in the Bible.
Posted by: Todd Martin | December 13, 2006 9:52 AM
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Donna, you're full of yourself and empty on scholarship. OK, you went for a "Ph.D. in Religious Studies", Wow, a P..H..D!!! We really needed to know that right? (forget the fact that your description says "Assistant Professor" which would imply that. Maybe you're still gloating about your Ph.D.). And secondly why should people "worry" if the godess concept is old hat in Eastern religions - are your readers so bigoted about Judeo-Christianity and so xenophobic that they need to be reassured that the godess concept fits well in JC? You are the classic academic type that religious nuts love to attack. Thank god you're not an atheist spokesman (sorry, I mean spokeswoman).
Posted by: AB | December 13, 2006 9:40 AM
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Yet another thing using religion to divide and exclude. How ridiculous to fight over the gender of God. Who cares other than raging feminists or reactionary religious extremists?
Posted by: Roy | December 13, 2006 7:44 AM
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FATHER MOTHER GOD:
Mary Baker Eddy had no essential quibble with what you have written. She is good. (Please excuse a deific pun.)
Posted by: Bill Brattain | December 13, 2006 7:33 AM
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My guess is that the force that created this universe is not so provincial as to have a gender.
The Bible was written by men and they probably decided that God ought to look like them. Had the situation been reversed God would be a female.
I really do consider it the height of egoism to attach something as earthy and temporal as a gender to the creator of the universe.
Cheers,
E.B.
P.S. If God looks like a guy, well then guys must be better than gals, right? Isn’t that really what the entire flap above is over?
Posted by: Eric Blair | December 13, 2006 6:42 AM
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there is both feminine and masculine aspects of god in islam- it seems gong into the female camp is just the other side of the pendulum- the middle way is the most egalitarian- i dont usually state things in absolutes- but im sure no one can disagree with this.
Posted by: victoria | December 13, 2006 1:21 AM
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Donna Freitas wrote: "I have nothing against atheists per se, aside from now holding a strong belief that being an atheist is an extraordinarily difficult task: the diversity of theological interpretations of the divine—once you begin to wander among them—really narrow the possibilities for true atheism (sorry Mr. Harris)"
Actually the more religious views out there the less likely does any of them seem to be true.
Posted by: Anat | December 13, 2006 12:10 AM
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Let's not forget Ashera:
http://www.theology.bham.ac.uk/guest/Ancient%20Israel/asherah.htm
Posted by: Anat | December 13, 2006 12:07 AM
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Believers believe one thing and atheists another - they are functionally the same. Become buddha-like: believe nothing, simply observe and be present in the present moment as fully as you can. Observe very carefully, without thinking. Then things will take care of themselves and all will be well.
Posted by: Norrie Hoyt | December 12, 2006 11:54 PM
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ANONYMOUS ASKS: Since when does a feminine "divinity" fit within Judaism and Christianity?
Hi, Anonymous,
God is often referred to in female terms in the Bible. Here are some instances (thanks to a friend):God's mother-love for his child is faithful and unconditional: God
knows what it is to carry a child in the womb, to cry out in labor,
to give birth (Is. 46:3-4; Dt. 32:18; Is. 42:13-14); God's
attachment to his child is just as strong as any nursing mother's
(Is. 49:14-15); her tender compassion (Jer. 31:20) moves her to
carry her child at her breast and comfort him (Is. 66:12-13), and to
stand by her child all the days of its life. The psalmist envisions
God as mother (Ps. 131:1-2), as mid-wife (Ps. 22:9f) and as mistress
of a household (Ps. 123:2), an image echoed in the Wisdom literature
(Prov. 9:1-6). God's Wisdom, personified, is feminine (Wis. 7:25-
8:1). Wisdom shares in the divine attributes, and appeals to the
faithful disciple to embrace her as bride and mother (Prov. 4:6-8,
Sir. 15:2; Wis. 8:2) ; she can satisfy the heart's desire. God is referred to as "a mother hen" (Mt. 23:27) and is often referred to as "Wisdom" ("Sophia", a woman).
Medieval writings, including mystical ones, often wrote of God as motherly. See the English woman mystic Julian of NOrwich, for instance.
It seems that the further away in time we get from the events of the Bible the weaker this tradition becomes. Sigh.
Ann O.
Posted by: Ann O. | December 12, 2006 11:45 PM
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My Catholic childhood was so full of the Saints, male and female, we never worried about what sex God was. I think if I had children, I would continue my family's tradition of calling on different Saints for different matters. For example, Saint Lucy for my eyes, Saint Anthony for success in school. The Saints encompass both sexes, so must God, I figured, and still do. James
Posted by: james | December 12, 2006 11:14 PM
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The bible says man was mad in God's image. So God must posses both masculine and feminine.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 12, 2006 10:48 PM
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Ms. Freitas, I find it interesting that you think a feminine deity can fit with the Christian tradition. Jesus refers to "God" as "Father" in almost every instance; I doubt this was a mistake on his part. Of course, I think you know this and probably have rebuttals prepared. Academics are good at confusing the issue.
What I am more interested in knowing is why, after thousands of years of women worshiping a deity who identifies himself as masculine, you don't feel like you can identify with God as a man. Sarai, Miriam, Rahab, Naomi, Ruth, Deborah, and Mary seemed to have no problem with God being masculine. My wife, my two mothers, and all four grandmothers have no problem with it either.
Is there something in your life that has caused you to mistrust a male God? Maybe the solution to this is to not redefine God, but to find healing by shaping yourself to him, not the other way around. THAT is much more in keeping with the Judeo-Christian tradition.
Posted by: J-P | December 12, 2006 10:04 PM
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What we give our hearts to and have faith in does not follow an external rule book. We are spirit that has taken form in a body. We are unique expressions of a divinity who loves diversity. The form our deity takes will help to make us feel safe and provide refuge to our troubled minds. It can be male, female, father, mother, lover, child, teacher, benefactor, friend etc. and needs to be a form our minds can make sense of. With the access to information and travel we are being made aware of the many different ways people have of paying homage to what sustains their lives. To expect everyone to believe in any one concept of divinity is cruel. Our heart leads us towards what our soul wants and it is out of the silence that this guidance comes. In our sleep we surrender to the form that feels safe for us and when we awaken we are revitalised ready to deal with what we have been given life to achieve. We are but waves in this vast ocean where some have more of an impact than others but ultimately we all must merge back into the ONE.
Posted by: pearl Finn | December 12, 2006 9:09 PM
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With all due respect, the author you sounds like another poorly trained Catholic(it's the great sin of our church, moderate spirituality). It always leads to disinterest, especially among the brightest.
Catholics who are not saying rosaries daily as a means of passionately experiencing transcendental meditation, doing penance, IE suffering, have no business seeking God outside of the faith. Give the Catholic faith a shot.
The Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, and the Holy Spirit or Helper are certainly bridges over the troubled waters of Oedipus angst that separates females, or males for that matter, from a personal vision of a remote and cold Grand Divine Patriarch.
I hope the author returns to the faith thru our Mother Mary, as many others have done. In fact, feminist and author Beverly Donofrio (Riding in Cars with Boys) wrote a book about her conversion to mystical Catholicism: Looking for Mary: (Or, the Blessed Mother and Me)
I love how she begins the book:
by "Six years before I landed in Bosnia, the Virgin Mary was no more than a dim memory, another fairy tale from my childhood...
Posted by: frank | December 12, 2006 8:54 PM
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If the divine, whether male, female, both, or neither, is all the omni's that most in our culture like to categorize the divine as, then I feel that we should be listening to each other's journeys, ones like Donna Freitas', to learn about all the different ways that we diverse humans experience him/her/it. A truly omni-god is too big to be strictly defined by only one person's, or one billion people's, perspective. The One, if there is just one, must, by definition, encompass the all.
Posted by: Angela | December 12, 2006 6:28 PM
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What is it with us? Anyone who can type and put together two sentences is now an authority on God, the divine, and the history of the world? Since when does a feminine "divinity" fit within Judaism and Christianity? Since YOU said it does? Or since these other feminine theologists say it does? You have just dismissed thousands of years of teaching with a single sentence. And just because you can name-drop authors does not mean you have the facts at your disposal. Please give us your arguments either in Greek or Hebrew that prove the feminine gender of God. Do you really even understand what a theology professor is? Religious studies hides behind the notion of theological studies. I say your title should be Assistant Professor of Gibberish.
I only have two things left to say to you. First, I am so thankful that you will never teach me, any of my friends, my children, any of my friends children. You should not be teaching anyone, anything. Secondly, please do not comment on anything theological again. Go back to watching your Lord of the Rings DVDs and leave the serious theologians alone. They have a hard enough time defending the faith as it is.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 12, 2006 5:48 PM
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So, what is the point, Donna? Do you now construe "God" as a woman instead of as a man?
Do you teach your students that the term "God" did not appear in any equivalent language form in the original scriptures? Do you teach them that the original name was "Yahweh," the ancient Hebrews' version of the mail deity who creates everything, a story that is found in all primitive religions predating Judaism and its "Christian" version by possibly as much as 20,000 years? Do you explain to them that "God" was and remains the early Catholics' substitute for "Yahweh" once the Catholic fraternity (there were no women) became predominantly gentile and wanted to divorce the omnipotent creator from a "Jewish" religion? Do you explain to your students that the only remaining division of so-called "Christianity" which retains in any form the original name "Yahweh" is that of the Seventh Day Adventists, who Anglicised it to "Jehovah"?
If you do not teach your students these basic facts, what do you teach them about "God"?
You might also explain to your students that every one of the billions of times cheap politicians have concluded a claptrap speech with "God bless America," in effect what they have said is "Yahweh bless America."
Posted by: Burton H. Wolfe | December 12, 2006 5:08 PM
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From my perspective, most of Western religious doctrine seems to devalue the feminine, from defining the divine as male to accusing the female of bringing sin into the world. Feminist writer Judy Mann wrote that the doctrine gives males a false sense of superiority and entitlement. They grow up thinking that they are little gods who can do anything they want to females. This isn't just the Abrahamic religions, as anyone who has read the Pandora myth from ancient Greece would know.
I have two young daughters, and I'm encouraged by Ms. Freitas' exploration of the feminine divine in the Christian tradition and in other religions. My wife and I haven't taught much religion to our girls, except for the Phyllis Root children's book "Big Momma Makes the World." But we don't want to define deity as exclusively feminine, either, because that may end up devaluing the masculine. Does Ms. Freitas have any book recommendations for parents whose children are not yet school age?
Posted by: Tonio | December 12, 2006 5:00 PM
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What an interesting and cool approach to broadening a child's view of the divine! Great article. Of course, as Prof. Freitas alludes to, introducing kids to the idea of a "Divine-She" can do even more than expand their views of and potential relationships with God. Indeed, if men's self-respect has for centuries been bolstered by the idea of having been created "in God's image," then surely the equally workable idea of a feminine divine might help girls and boys alike grow up treating women with the respect, and even reverence, to which they are entitled.
Posted by: Mitch Warner | December 12, 2006 4:55 PM
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It's interesting, this struggle over the gender of God. Why would a real God have a gender anyway? Reproduction? 'Tis a puzzle.
Posted by: Cayambe | December 12, 2006 4:50 PM
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