Desmond Tutu
Nobel Peace Prize winner and human rights advocate

Desmond Tutu

Tutu, the first black African archbishop of Cape Town, was awarded the 1984 Nobel Peace Prize for his contribution to the cause of racial justice in South Africa.

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We Live By Faith, Not Certainty

I am surprised at the flurry of discussion and concern about this aspect of Mother Teresa’s inner life, because spiritual teachers have long taught about the dark night of the soul. St John of the Cross spoke eloquently about this phenomenon, that in many ways it was a common occurrence, God seeking to wean us away from the consolations of God so that we would turn our hearts towards the God of consolations. Even Jesus in a way experienced this desolation when he cried out on the Cross, ’My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?’

Mother Teresa wonderfully was no plaster cast saint. She has helped to affirm many who are passing through this period of desolation and dryness when God seems so remote. St Theresa of Avila after one such bout cried out in frustration to God, ’No wonder your friends are so few given how you treat them!’ My regard for Mother Teresa has been enhanced.

Doubt can be an integral part of faith, when the evidence is never so overwhelming, so incontrovertible. St Thomas is our patron Saint for doubters. We live by faith not by sight and frequently the evidence does not make the leap of faith redundant.

God bless you.

By Desmond Tutu  |  August 29, 2007; 7:09 AM ET
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I think what is important is being missed here is a very simple concept. We live by faith, because the truth is that life is uncertain. I do not believe that we know very much at all except that we are all going to die; sinners and saints. If we acknowledge it or not, we all live by faith; either faith in ourselves, or faith in something greater.

For certainty is state of knowledge, and we tend to act as if; we make assumption daily, we allow ourselves unearned liberties, and we take the most precious gifts for granted. The truth is that we don't know if we will awaken when we lay our heads down to rest.

Of life's certainties, we are all promised a return to dust. We like to believe in the feelings of certainty (security) which generally are just that, feelings. We don't like to think about what is actually certain, however our belief or or avoidance of belief in the actuality of creation does not change the truth of it.

When we think we know, we aren't thinking. Wisdom is the faith in the truth; the innate uncertainty (doubt) of our knowledge and daily continued existence. We discern our sense of knowledge by testing the underlying doubt of our beliefs.

We acquire wisdom when we understand that of our own human devices, we can only infer truth by the removal, or absence of doubt. We can't pin truth down, we can only corner it.

Therefore it is wise to understand to claim certainty of truth, to claim knowledge, is claim to be the Author of truth, a fool, or worse a liar.

One may only claim knowledge when a belief is known with surety to be truth. Ask any honest scientist, and they will tell you that what we believe we "know" at best we really only have a satisfactory sense of certitude. This certitude being what has past available measures of doubt.

We usually determine our sense of certainty (our rightness) emotionally, however intellectually, we determine our sense of certainty by testing the certainty of the uncertain.

To put it another way, we test our beliefs by stripping away our assumptions that our beliefs are truth, and by testing the falsity of our beliefs.

The important thing to take away from this is that if we as mere humans are certain (meaning that we "know" truth) then we are hopeless, for certainty leaves no room for hope.

Let us not be arrogant and so certain; let us be thankful, let us be wise. Let us test our fears and doubts, let us test our sense of self-assurance, and surety; so we may not despair. Let us not be hopeless, let's be humble.

This is why we live life to the fullest by faith, in the hope of a dawn, so we may rejoice in the breath of a new day. Let us trust on faith in the words of knowledge, wisdom, and promise of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus, whose words and actions have never given us reason to doubt Him.

Posted by: Moshe | November 15, 2007 1:35 AM
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I think what is important is being missed here is a very simple concept. We live by faith, because the truth is that life is uncertain. I do not believe that we know very much at all except that we are all going to die; sinners and saints. If we acknowledge it or not, we all live by faith; either faith in ourselves, or faith in something greater.

For certainty is state of knowledge, and we tend to act as if; we make assumption daily, we allow ourselves unearned liberties, and we take the most precious gifts for granted. The truth is that we don't know if we will awaken when we lay our heads down to rest.

Of life's certainties, we are all promised a return to dust. We like to believe in the feelings of certainty (security) which generally are just that, feelings. We don't like to think about what is actually certain, however our belief or or avoidance of belief in the actuality of creation does not change the truth of it.

When we think we know, we aren't thinking. Wisdom is the faith in the truth; the innate uncertainty (doubt) of our knowledge and daily continued existence. We discern our sense of knowledge by testing the underlying doubt of our beliefs.

We acquire wisdom when we understand that of our own human devices, we can only infer truth by the removal, or absence of doubt. We can't pin truth down, we can only corner it.

Therefore it is wise to understand to claim certainty of truth, to claim knowledge, is claim to be the Author of truth, a fool, or worse a liar.

One may only claim knowledge when a belief is known with surety to be truth. Ask any honest scientist, and they will tell you that what we believe we "know" at best we really only have a satisfactory sense of certitude. This certitude being what has past available measures of doubt.

We usually determine our sense of certainty (our rightness) emotionally, however intellectually, we determine our sense of certainty by testing the certainty of the uncertain.

To put it another way, we test our beliefs by stripping away our assumptions that our beliefs are truth, and by testing the falsity of our beliefs.

The important thing to take away from this is that if we as mere humans are certain (meaning that we "know" truth) then we are hopeless, for certainty leaves no room for hope.

Let us not be arrogant and so certain; let us be thankful, let us be wise. Let us test our fears and doubts, let us test our sense of self-assurance, and surety; so we may not despair. Let us not be hopeless, let's be humble.

This is why we live life to the fullest by faith, in the hope of a dawn, so we may rejoice in the breath of a new day. Let us trust on faith in the words of knowledge, wisdom, and promise of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus, whose words and actions have never given us reason to doubt Him.

Posted by: Moshe | November 15, 2007 1:33 AM
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My feeling is that accepting doubt, rather than fearing it, is a part of having a mature faith. God gave us eyes to see with, ears to hear with, legs to walk with, and an intellect that questions, analyzes, and challenges. Ignoring these gifts is no less hurtful to God than it would be to a parent if their child refused to open a lovingly given birthday gift. Just as we see, hear, and walk, we must question, analyze, and doubt. In the end we chose to believe, not because we know, but because it is better to believe that the glass is half full, and because wearing the lens of faith allows us to better see all of the beauty that is possible in the world.

Posted by: rumicat | August 30, 2007 10:21 AM
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As Abraham was leading his son Isaac (who was carrying the wood for his own sacrifice) from the ass and towards Mt. Moriah; Abraham was being obedient to an instruction God had given him.

Abraham, deemed righteous because of his faith, stated to his servants, "Stay here with the ass, I and the lad will return."

This kind of faith in God (soon to be confirmed by the placement of a ram, caught in a thicket/a substitute) indicated no doubt or fear and demonstrates for all of us faith that does not come from sight.

Abraham did not question God.

Posted by: Silence Dogood | August 30, 2007 8:45 AM
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As Abraham was leading his son Isaac (who was carrying the wood for his own sacrifice) from the ass and towards Mt. Moriah; Abraham was being obedient to an instruction God had given him.

Abraham, deemed righteous because of his faith, stated to his servants, "Stay here with the ass, I and the lad will return."

This kind of faith in God (soon to be confirmed by the placement of a ram, caught in a thicket/a substitute) indicated no doubt or fear and demonstrates for all of us faith that does not come from sight.

Abraham did not question God.

Posted by: Silence Dogood | August 30, 2007 8:43 AM
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Dear Bishop Tutu,
Thank you for your blessing. It is a treasure to me. (My grandmother and grandfather came to Texas from the Isle of Man and were members of the Church of England.)
While I have not yet read the article in Time Magazine quoting from Mother Teresa's letters, the reports of their contents come as no surprise.
Several years ago, I obtained a book of letters of St. Therese of Lisieux and read them carefully. They were such a delight. I felt I got to know her as a person through her letters. St. Therese went through a similiar experience of having no feeling of God's presence. It was especially difficult for her when she endured the last stages of tuberculosis and the terrible suffering that disease inflicted upon her body.
I have ordered the new book of Mother Teresa's letters when it is released and I look forward to getting to know her as a person, as well. I am so glad that her request that the letters be destroyed was not followed.
Her life-long spiritual heroism, the letters may well reveal, is that she had a firm and strong will to adhere to the road she believed God had invited her to take, despite the many discouragements and setbacks she encountered on the way. To rise each morning and continue to do the work of developing her hospices and hostels for the most underprivileged among us when they were ill, to remove them from the horror of the streets, (I can't imagine the filth, the insects, the roving animals, which would have increased their misery in their illnesses), to bring them into shelter, to clean their bodies, clothe them, feed them and show them kindness when they were in misery or dying, and to constantly inspire others to do the same and to persevere in that calling is admirable. It is doubly so, when you consider that God didn't give her much of a sense in her interior life to reward her for her hard work and loyal faith.
Forty years ago, I had the privilege of meeting a few of her daughters and to work with them for a weekend. They were an amazing young group of women. We were working in a kitchen, cooking dinner and I remember, out of the corner of my eye, catching a glimpse of a shining light that emanated from the face of one of the sisters as she worked. It was only momentary, but I saw it. I was so surprised. (I remember thinking that it must have been that special trait which provoked artists to put haloes around the heads of saints in paintings.)
This spiritual dryness is a very hard trial for these saints. People don't understand how difficult it makes everyday life for them.
I believe it is a step in spiritual maturation which some people endure. They usually do not discuss it with anyone but their most intimate friends.
It is one confirming sign of a developing holiness and closeness to God.
Tonight, CNN covered the 2nd anniversary of the Storm Katrina in New Orleans and the lack of progress in rebuilding the city. They still have hundreds of people sleeping out in the open across from City Hall because they have no place to go. Some of the homeless have jobs but can't afford the inflated rents for the few rooms or apartments available. I can't imagine what that is like, month after month, out in the weather. There is a need for Mother Teresa's army of kindness even in America. A sad commentary on our society.

Posted by: Judy Allen | August 30, 2007 3:46 AM
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Jacob,

As your god I command you to stop writing ridiculous rhetoric. No one reads them because they do not make sense. Ya Ya.

Posted by: Eclat i | August 29, 2007 10:25 PM
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Venkant -- I think understand what you are saying, but I don't think having doubts automatically translates into hopelessness. Or perhaps I missed your point entirely. Food for thought :p
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As to your other point, why the assumption that atheism is the next big step? I've all but abandoned any trace of organized religion, but I am far from being an Atheist.
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Jacob, good god man, how do you have time to type all of that? Seeing such a mass of text punctated frequently with caps and paragraphs starting with

"Reality: a/k/a your & OUR TRANSFINITY; Only the Eclati-on(s) of Holy Cosmic Feeler(s) Faith"

tends to make myself and others not want to read what you are writing, and hence tends towards your message being ignored.

Posted by: J. Balough | August 29, 2007 7:09 PM
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Jacob Stop it.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 4:49 PM
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Hello again Mr. Tutu, et al;

Here is a quick & Concise "live-Search" link on Momma Teresa & some of her favord words like,

"A clean heart is a free heart. A free heart can love Christ with an undivided love in chastity, convinced that nothing and nobody will separate it from his love."

http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Mother+Teresa&FORM=MSNMH3


Happy every Day & Happy Labor Day!

May Eclat preserve & Protect Momma Poppa Space-Ship Earth/Gaia/Tellus and by many names.

Example: The creator begott the "FIAT-LUX" and the "NOX" when "IT' (by the Nonjealous & thus Fearless G-d/Allah/lord/Yawah) said, "Let there Be Photons" and there was Light (Photons). And Then there was released the Sound first & the Sound begott the Bang & the Bang follows the Photons & this begot, in a point in TIME (temperature not clock or space time) and Place the Invisible/Dark Energy & invisible/Dark Matter. And

this TIME via Absolute Hot & Absolute Cold Holy Cosmic Mixing Job via Lord/Eclat, a/k/a the WARMTH OF ECLAT coalesced ITSELF (G-D stuff) or condensed, in MIRACLE never Sin, into OUR Mother/Father NEBULAe mega-Plume-Womb. And

this Nebulae begott "OUR Star-System" of many when the Holy Cosmic Photons & Plasmatics appeared as one in mist form from being in essence form! And

IT came to pass that this holy stuff had, via the Holy & great Zirconian Shaft evolved & ITSELF appeared, in miracle & zero sin (Pre-Baptised & Pre-Confirmed so to speaketh) into the OCEANIC-MEGAPLUME-WOMB. And

As this TIME had balanced ITSELF, hence Life, in turn had Forms that Coalesced & condensed into what WE are Today via the MAGMApercolation in the fact that "Life Is a miracle & Zero Biblical Sin!

Hence, via Nature man made Modern Morality is In and Biblical Morality is Out! Secular Government is much more superior to a Biblical Government! WE do not need Pre-Apocalyptic Man Made, never was they G-d Made, to Be Good nor to Do Good work! Heck, Even MAZDA the Zoroastrian was right when he wrote:

"Think Good, Say Good & Do Good!"

Important: Sex is never a Sin! Sex is in fact not LOVE! And Coochy Poochy is How we Got here. So there is zero sin in being biblically "Naked" (contrary to the anti-Civilization biblical drunken Noah story/Myth curse(s) et al) nor Born!

Note: ALL of Todays five Major Pre-Apocalyptic Religion(s), Faith(s), belief(s) & their G-d System(s), INSTEAD OF ECLAT/G-D, are in fact All POLY (more than one) THEISTIC (Supernatural/Diety's/Heaven/Hell/Multple Angel(s) or as G-d(s) system)! So;

All ABRAHAMIC/DHARMIC/VEDIC religion, Faith & belief Systems are in fact POLY G-D(s) worshippers! There is zero MONO-THEISM in ANY of them! I am I right Your Honorable Desmon TUTU et al?!

Reality: a/k/a your & OUR TRANSFINITY; Only the Eclati-on(s) of Holy Cosmic Feeler(s) Faith, Belief or as a religion System (like Prophet Albert Einstein Prophecied, correctly, and Said will come some day to Humanity) & under the "G-d-Made & Man-Made" OUR-BOOK is genuine Mono faith and "IT" is about US, being together Forever With SOURCE-ONE (CREATOR of the Fiat-Lux, not Mr. Moses Let there Be Light).

We appear, out of the MAGMApercolation because We are in the Holy Cosmic WARMTH & HEART bEAT of Eclat/Lord/G-D/Almighty and by many names becaus G_D did not want to be LONELY. Hence We appear in IT via ITSELF as Eternity Avoiding Loneliness in and of US-ALL. This is LOVE & Miracle & Zero Biblical Man made Sin & Myth systems!

Important: In Eclati_on Philosophy, from the DUE-TO-BE holy Cosmic Miracle Machine or Genesis mentioned above , that OUR EPESTIMOLOGY and towards OUR ONTOLGY , that ALL HUMATES posses, in their "Frontal-Lobe" a immortal HEURISTICa/o (Eternal Soul) that Coalesced & Condensed ITSELF again, at the Holy Flash Point of the BIOFINITE creation of the UTERO.

"Sure, the Picture is in my eye, but "i" am also in the Picture.." By: Jacques Lacanese. Hence:

All humates , when they die, have to leave their 'Biocarbon based bodys behind on earth to "recycle", and that our unique "Heuritica" (female)/o (male) is again on the Holy Cosmic Move and that the ESCHATOLOGICAL possibilities of OUR selves is endless! As in Thermo "Dynamic" thinking, that Eclati-On(s) Heuristica's/o's never was created nor can ever be destroyed!

Yes! In Eclati-On, not Eclati-off, Philosophy We came from the past, via eternal Planet Hoppings Phenomona & miracle (Zero Sin to be born or reborn) and possesing another frontal Lobe (G-ds omnopresent Heuristical Holy Cosmic Safe deposit or temporary Vault so to speaketh) in such a SYSTEM OF MIRACLES never sin via sex or Birth.

Note: Eclati-ons, have had Many Parents from Past! OUR Gender never ever Changes! Today, in Miracle & Zero Sin as usuall, we have One Mom & one Dad that is a CHIRALITY represented in our MEMETICS. And We appear due to the Photon Essence that , in Utero Coalesced US into this Photon Mist form & our immortal Heuristica captured in a frontal lobe for a TIME! And

In The Future & Beyond We will have More Loved Ones (in our eternal Planet Hopping Journeys) to enjoy each TIME around. Note: Our Heuristica/o never returns to Earths Dust To Dust story's. only your Carbon Based Jackets so to speaketh.
BIRTH & DEATH are MIRACLES ALL IN ONE! SO;

Enjoy each other now! Innate "Modern Morality" Is The truth & the genuine Way, never Man Made Bibliomaniac Thinking on How WE got here [G-d made "Mrs. Eve" via a Holy Scapil , thus causing a Holy Cosmic "C-Section" on "Mr. Adam. Not to mention the Vestil Virgin Vogue Holy Cosmic Penis "Mr. Jesus" creating Story, And more Stale, not Dynamic, Old Song, man made, instead of G-d/Eclat Story's!

BEHOLD: A new Age Of Faith Exchanging is come & healing Of Nations & Global peace and more Good Tidings is Near! All this will only be made possible via the G-d Made & Man Made , via an international joint Theological Venture, to establis/construct/creat the OUR-BOOK, created in th U.N. by mandate as mentioned Seq Passim and on this bloggs since March 2oth.07!


Please See "Parliaments Of The World's Religions" at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_the_World's_Religions And;

Please Note your excellency, that This is not like the Eclati-On(s) U.N. Mandated "WORLD FAITH EXCHANGE" for creating "The Book Of OUR" or OUR-BOOK, under the International VOTARY ASSOCIATION (via Internet) of the GRIDARION DEMOCRACY movement!

Vote For: One Universal Religion Book! a/k/a OUR-BOOK! All Nations & their Inhabitants, a/k/a HUMATES, will Have a Free Copy of the holy Cosmic "O.U.R.-BOOK" via the United Religious "Peoples-Exchange". After Three Generation Max, All or Most Humates will be totaly Different then their previous Generations. And these Future Bound (never Backward bound thinkers, like Al Quada et al) and Space Forth Active Kids will Laugh at our Era!

But they will be greatfull?, to Us All, Includes you too Mr. Desmond Tutu, et al. Ya Ya! The world Will Change Foevere PEOPLE-WISE!

Note: The OUR Book also acts as a HUMANITY DOCTRINE for ALL, in genuine Equality, To Uphold & Make Honorable. They will live on the moon, with Holy Cosmic father/Mother Nature "Eclat" a/k/a an "IT" & not Mr. Jesus et al also known as "Him/Her" or them!!

Praise The Lord!

Ooops. Even though the Solution To Pollution Is Evolution, yet Procrastination is the Theif of TIME, that The Most important Next Step During the creation of the OUR-BOOK, is that the world needs to Control "People Population Explosion" before Humates can find a Solution To their Polution Problem! And

All Humates Must Surrender their old Songs Pre-Apocalyptic Infixus Books, that are the real Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) and exchange them instead for the New Song, a/k/a Book Of OURS! You are Catterpilar, like believing Mr. Jesus walked on H2O (not holy Water) thinker Mr. Tutu . And

as an Eclati-on mon, I am a Butterfly thinker who used to be a Caterpillar! There are those who see and those who do not. Mother teresa et al, saw & now begining to see otherwise!

Knowledge in TRANSFINITY philosophy Wins , hands down so to speaketh, the reality non Myth Story's game, if any!

Note: In Eclati-on Philosophy, the APOCALYPSE/REVELATION (opposite of TRUTH), as prophecied via all five Major religions Today, that the End of OUR Grandma/pop Sun/Solor will also Die when the Hydrogen starts to get spent, this is expected in 4 Billion years! And It is Predicted that OUR Milky way Galaxy will "Merge" Collide with OUR neighbor, the Andromedia Galaxy in +/- 3 Billion years.

IMPORTANT: Life, as WE know It, never Ends, according To eclati-on Philosophy. And We know that Many religions think about their fates & have many differing Eschatological possibilities! Acsually Christians & Muslums/Mosloms/Moslems both agree on a Heaven. And the Judaic think different about heaven. Not Say Hindu & Buddhas similar too!

But Eclati-on's know that , after Closly reading the JUDEO-CHRISTIAN-ISLAMIC Books, & also the VEDIC-BUDDHA Books, that the Milleniums has already Passed around 10 A.D. when Islam Closed their Books proclaiming, "Muhammad is The Last Prophet.." [Similar wrote]. So BEHOLD!

G-d Consents but Only for a Time. IT is TIME!

Note: Any One Who Disagrees with any of the Five Major religions will be called a "ANTi-Christ, or Anti-Muhammad, or Anti Moses, or Anti-Hindu or Anti-Buddha, or anti-Seikh et al!

HARK: Hear O' HUMATES of Space-Ship Planet Earth, Uphold & make honorable, Until This world Goes Poof, the Holy Cosmic OUR-BOOK! The UNIVERSE is OUR genuine CONSTITUTION & THE Law(s) of NATURE is OUR CLAUSES to Follow innately!

Remember, Always be aware that LIFE=PHOTONs is a miracle & never was being born naked via Coochy Poochy a biblomaniac sin! Is Miracle Superior to Sin? Eclati-Ons Do Not Know what biblical Sin is nor what biblical Supernatural celestial Heaven is!

All five Major religions have a Holy "MANNA" story so to speaketh. And this is about "Food For Thought" especially for our humate Leaderships, that will be needed, when the World will need IT (g-D) the MOST! Note: MANNA literally means "WHAT IS THIS" Please See:

Old/New testaments respectfully @ Josh; 5:12 [Hidden Manna] , Rev: 2:17 [Heavenly bread] and; Holy UMMA @ Quran/Koran 2:143; and; Holy KARMA @ Geeta/Gita/Bhagavad 6:47 et seq.

P.s. All Five major religions Infixus Books also , miraculously agree that there is a Source-One creator, By many names, who said, "Let there Be Light/FIRE/Photons etc... a/k/a FIAT-LUX. And many more agtreements. It is these "DEEPER-PROPHECY'S" that the "OUR-BOOK" will behold, record & defend till death due us part! And;

Please see how All Five Major religions, beliefs & faiths all agree on "GRIDARION-DEMOCRACY" for healing of nations & World Peac e & more Good tidings @

Old Test @ Isia 1:18, New test @ Mathew 20:16, and;
Book Of MORMON @ 29:26 and; Holy Geeta @ 3:21, and their Upanishads @ 4.4.5 and; the Glorious Quran/Koran @ 42:38-39. But;

The Problem is ALL five major religions have a , man made & Zero G-d Clause, that Shuts-Out All Non Believers! Example: The Quaran @ 2:161 & 8:12; and in the Holy Geeta @ 18:66 ["Forsake all religions] in the Old & new testament too.

Hark: "Salvation" [you make your own according to Eclati-on believing] is not of the Jews nor Muslums nor Christians nor hindu's nor Buddhist et al, neither is "Repenting" for ones Sin(s), if any! Salvation, so to speaketh arise from the ECLATARIANS!, a/k/a APOCALYPTARIANS a/k/a ECLATi-On's!

Ah, life is so beautifull with Eclati-ons & not the Eclati-Offs! Let the Battle begin! Praise Eclat + "i" in a System Of Miracles & never Sin!Ya Ya!

Posted by: Ja Joz | August 29, 2007 4:40 PM
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Faith in An Evil God?

Yes, we realize that usually faith and doubt co-exist in our human hearts.

"I have faith that I will win the Nobel Prize. I doubt that I will win the Nobel Prize" is the most human of vacillations.

Of course, this fact regarding faith in God says *nothing* about whether God actually exists, or, if She does, which of the many choices She really is (Krishna, Allah, etc).

What Theresa realized at many levels is that, as a Catholic, she had faith in an omnipotent, omniscient God who allowed the vast unwarranted human suffering that she encountered on the streets of Calcutta. Did her faith in a God of Evil waver? Wouldn't all of ours?

Many can't reconcile the hypothesis that such a God exists with the reality they see in the Calcutta's of that God's world. And if God allows such Evil when She can prevent it, isn't She evil too?

Posted by: Henry James | August 29, 2007 4:32 PM
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Amen

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 4:28 PM
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It still seems strange that Mother Teresa harbored these doubts and yet was sure that, if there was a God, it was the specifically Catholic church version, and that God does not approve of abortion. How did she know that was God's viewpoint rather than her own, if she did not feel the presence of God? There are versions of Christianity that do not regard abortion as immoral in and of itself.

She seems a strange combination of doubt and certainty, aside from her good works.

Posted by: More doubt | August 29, 2007 3:46 PM
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Jesus' cry of "My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?" was moment of doubt that showed that Jesus was both fully divine AND fully human.

The key word being moment. Even momentS.

Mother Teresa's "moment" lasted the last few decades of her life. And her doubt was not of the variety of "why has God forsaken me at this my hour of need," which can indicate enduring belief in God but feeling abandoned at the moment.

Mother Teresa did not feel God's presence for decades. Obviously, I don't mean physical presence, and this doesn't mean God has to "prove" His existence through miracles. But, although they may waiver, people of faith find God as real to them as the person standing next to them.

Who or what is God if you cannot have a relationship with Him? Merely a creator? An absentee landlord?

I think these are important questions that don't negate Mother Teresa's good works.

Posted by: mizbinkley | August 29, 2007 3:41 PM
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Mr. Tutu comments were well put. We do indeed live by faith. If Jeasus at a point in his life, cried out to God, "my God My God.. why have thou forsake me".. who are we not to feel doubtful at times.

Well said and I agree.

Donovan Stewart

Posted by: DONOVAN STEWART | August 29, 2007 2:33 PM
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Mr. Tutu comments were well put. We do indeed live by faith. If Jeasus at a point in his life, cried out to God, "my God My God.. why have thou forsake me".. who are we not to feel doubtful at times.

Well said and I agree.

Donovan Stewart

Posted by: DONOVAN STEWART | August 29, 2007 2:33 PM
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Mr. Tutu comments were well put. We do indeed live by faith. If Jeasus at a point in his life, cried out to God, "my God My God.. why have thou forsake me".. who are we not to feel doubtful at times.

Well said and I agree.

Posted by: DONOVAN STEWART | August 29, 2007 2:32 PM
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Saw this in a movie somewhere and I think the statment about sums it up - without doubt, faith would be unnecessary.

Posted by: Wayne Andrews | August 29, 2007 2:15 PM
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Saw this in a movie somewhere and I think the statment about sums it up - without doubt, faith would be unnecessary.

Posted by: Wayne Andrews | August 29, 2007 2:15 PM
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I think it is great that someone who was so concern about the well being of people who live in poverty would commit their life to making others better. We live in a time where everything revolves around power and money. Life is no longer considered at is best when we have the minimal neccesities provided. Mother Theresa know matter what she wrestled with within her inner being did something about the convictions in her spirit. There are many people who talk talk talk,I am sure these people mean will but to actually do something dwindles the number of persons who give up comfort, for suffering. Mother Theresa get my vote for sainthood. There are not a lot of people who would even come close to attempting to do some of the things she have done.

Posted by: Theresa E Ellis | August 29, 2007 2:00 PM
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Pablo:

Exactly what was the point of your post?

And where were you for the earlier questions?

You would have loved the banter we all had going.

Posted by: Russell D. | August 29, 2007 1:40 PM
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Archbishop Tutu gives us an excellent apology for the phenomenon of the dark night of faith. A Carmelite could not do a better job. No doubt Mother Teresa was familar with the works of these Spanish saints and the more contemporary Thérèse of Lisieux.
Its easy enough to mimic what we read and not even be aware of it. What's missing from Mother Teresa's confessions is the mystic hallmark of humor that comes from observing one's ego and poking fun at it.

Posted by: sebocd | August 29, 2007 1:36 PM
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"God seeking to wean us away from the consolations of God so that we would turn our hearts towards the God of consolations."

Thank you, Archbishop. With one sentence you solved my own deepest confusion.

Posted by: Campbellite | August 29, 2007 1:33 PM
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I found this interesting. How do people keep faith if they don't understand the source of their conflict? It seems that not understanding only leads to more dispair because one cannot see a way forward to end the conflict that is causing them such personal, moral and ethical concern.

Dr. Paula Wilson
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Posted by: Paula Wilson | August 29, 2007 1:15 PM
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Yes, she should be honored for her works. But one should not disregard the faith that drove her works. She did those good works because of her faith. So she should just as much be honored for the faith that inspired her works

Posted by: Krikor | August 29, 2007 1:08 PM
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"But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you all have knowledge. I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth. Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also" (1 John 2:20-21).

Posted by: Pablo | August 29, 2007 1:07 PM
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I also am in complete agreement with Archbishop Tutu. Ecclesiastes, after all, "The Preacher", says in its refrain, "All is vanity..." We are reminded of our humanity and mortality by the human doubt experienced by any one of us, whether labeled, from our life of works, "saint" or "sinner".

Doubt is the hallmark of consciousness, which in turn is the hallmark of humanity. Without doubt, there would be no need for faith or reason to overcome it. We would be instead robotic machines; not human beings. We would not need saints to inspire us to do better. We would be perfect unto ourselves.

To presuppose that "saint" means earthly perfection in all respects is to presuppose that there has never been any human being truly a saint. It is to presuppose that saints are inevitably mystical creatures during their time on earth, without any of the normal lesser foibles accompanying humanity. Such a belief will only lead to disappointment in finding and recognizing the clay feet of any mortal during his or her lifetime, indeed inspiring the search for it on the belief that all human beings have imperfection. Such an approach is thus truistic in its premises. It negates that any human being may be called a saint, and thus presupposes that there are no saints, only sinners.

Such an approach may lead then to a form of cynicism, negating good works, despising charity toward our fellow human beings on the premise that to supply truly good works, one must be perfect, and if not perfect, then a "hypocrite" supplanting what should be left to the only perfect being, God, to accomplish. And in further consequence of that view, life itself becomes a kind of roulette wheel of good fortune or bad fortune, and those suffering bad fortune must be left to their own bad fortune, without aid or comfort from their fellow human beings.

The consequence ultimately to humanity for that view, however, would over time be a very profoundly dark one--hopeless. In a world increasingly hurrying apace, increasingly insensitive to suffering, as we are informed increasingly of suffering within the world, we need also increasingly to countervail that inevitable numbing of sensitivities by instilling public awareness of figures who inspire hope and courage and charity toward others without the expectation of financial gain.

Such figures in the past century as Gandhi, the Dalai Lama, Pope John-Paul II, Martin Luther King, and Mother Teresa inspire us, as frail individuals running apace to maintain our daily schedules, to pause and appreciate the poetry of life and the great and good feeling achieved mutually, one to another in our own individual lives, in helping a fellow struggler, if only momentarily, in this peculiar enterprise in which we find ourselves--life and mortality.

As John F. Kennedy said, "We are all mortal..."

Mother Teresa was no exception to this supposition; but her consistently dedicated public works on earth were so exceptional as to be beyond mere mortality, not only directly, but in the inspiration to others. That, it seems to me, is a definition of a saint.

Posted by: John Elkins | August 29, 2007 12:49 PM
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Mother Theresa should be honored for her works, not her faith.

Does Archbiship Tutu believe that one needs faith in order to do good works? What is made of atheists who do great works?

Posted by: Seattle | August 29, 2007 12:48 PM
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I agree with Archbishop Tutu. Thank you sir for clarity and eloquence in delineation. Sister Teresa's request for nondisclosure should have been honored. Yet in raising this perhaps more will hear and heed the call to be Holy as the work or saving grace continues to abound.

Posted by: Philip Orticke | August 29, 2007 11:55 AM
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Dear J. Balough, the question is not whether Mother Theresa did great works or not. We all know and sckowledge that she did. The question stems from the burden of doubt that she carried: did she spend her life thinking hers was a hopeless persuit?

We need organized religions out of our lives first before we transistion to atheism.

Posted by: Venkat | August 29, 2007 11:53 AM
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I admire Mother Teresa greatly for her actions in setting up an organization to help poor people.

But if even she finds it difficult to generate a faithful attitude, and people like Bishop Tutu recognize that it it does not exist naturally or come "from the consolations of God" but is an attitude consciously adopted, then the enterprise fails on epistomological grounds: there is no external evidence for God's existence (as Tutu and many others come close to acknowledging) and little consistent personal experience, even among the saints, to justify the conclusion that faith is warranted. All that remains are large religious institutions that ask us to believe and become adherents. These large religious institutions have access to the minds of many of our children from an early age and influence them to believe without ever having to demostrate why.

Posted by: Josh | August 29, 2007 11:38 AM
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Thank you sir,

All that Mother Teresa's doubts prove is that she is human. They in no way diminish the validity of her faith or the goodness of her work.

Posted by: J. Balough | August 29, 2007 11:17 AM
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