On Faith: AIDS, Condoms and Dogma

"Sailmaker:
The Catholic Church teaches that it cannot interpose itself between one's own conscience and God. In this matter and others, do what most Catholics do in America: consider thoughtfully what the Church has said, and then act as one's own conscience dictates. In the end, my own soul will have to duke it out with Jesus over the disposition of my ultimate salvation, not with the Church."

Right you are, Sailmaker. Many Catholic theologians once taught that, based on an apparently long historical precedent. The Pope (JP Deuce) removed them all or forbid them to teach in Catholic universities.

As to being anti-Catholic – Duh! But when the last two and one half Popes trashed the consensus from the Second Vatican Council of John XXIII, weren’t they being anti-Catholic, since that is the ultimate authority of the Church?

Sorry, Zygotes are not people. If they are, then God is the great abortionist, since the great majority end up being miscarriages. No rational person can equate an abortion – spontaneous (i.e. God-given) or not – to the horrible death of a human being from AIDS.
But I take that comment to mean that you agree that that the Roman Catholic prohibition on the use of condoms to prevent disease IS genocide, just not the greatest one in your opinion. Plus, I am totally confused as to what using condoms – possibly one of the most powerful tools to prevent unwanted conceptions that are likely to end in abortion – have to do with abortion. No one is even talking about abortion here.

Incidentally, there is a long-held Catholic theological position, just like the right to individual conscience, which taught that human life (and the supposed infusion of the soul) began at quickening, that has recently been suppressed, just like the right to individual conscience.

Are the pro-condom people saying that the end – saving millions of lives – justifies the means – using a piece of rubber that hurts no one? First, the means is harmless and does not need to be justified. Second, yeah, saving millions of lives does justify that. Assuming that the end can never justify the means is just a short cut way of not thinking, or trying to wash your hands of the moral responsibility to make choices.

And yeah, I do understand the church’s purported rationale for opposing contraception (although I think that Rae had it right and it is a modern rationalization for a primitive understanding of biology): Procreation equals co-creation. A man and a woman in a Christian (i.e. Catholic) marriage procreating engage with Christ, as they are united in Christ, in an act of co-creation with God like that which God the creator performed when he created the world. Anything that frustrates this purpose is profane. Sorry. That pretty myth doesn’t outweigh the deaths of millions.

And no, no one is saying the RC Church created AIDS. It is merely responsible for helping spread it and causing the infection of innocent men, women, and children of infected women. (For that matter, if condoms also prevent the spread of AIDS to non-innocent men and women, I am all for that too. Is someone saying that they deserve to get AIDS because they committed a sexual sin? Then how about their babies?) The person who grows the dope is to blame for drug addiction, as is the person who takes the drugs. Does that mean the middle man, who is “merely” the dope dealer, is innocent because if the user didn’t use, there would be no problem?

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