Charity and Responsibility Begin at Home

Cal Thomas wrote:

"But using my definition of conservative investments and living within one's means, yes if that help comes first from family and neighbors. That is what Americans used to do back when we knew our neighbors and people didn't move so often."

Since people do move so often, what do you propose to do about it? What if help does not come first from family and neighbors? Will you pass a law forbidding people from moving? Ignore desperate people you are not personally acquainted with? Magically turn back the clock to a mythical time when Americans did not frequently move (which was never)? Note that during WWII when you imagine people knew one another, mobility was the highest in U.S. history, and the government was rationing food and making certain that everyone had enough. Those ration tickets went to everyone, including people who could not work. Your neighbors did not mind sharing the stamps because they got them for free. (You still had to pay for the food, but the rationing stamp was free.) At no time in our history was the nation more socialistic.

You have identified a problem and then turned away without offering a solution. The solution is to help strangers.

You call yourself a Christian, but you are not. I am an atheist and yet I am more Christian than you. Shame on you!

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/starhawk/2009/03/define_responsible/all_comments.html

Mrs JAcoby, thanks for Your help too.

Mrs Quinn, thanks for Your help.

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/adin_steinsaltz/2009/03/helping_those_who_are_impoveri/all_comments.html

LIMPSCOMB

You wrote, "I am an atheist and believe that Jesus was a man like all men. But I admire his love of all humanity and feel such admiration for it that I can do no less."

I hope that you do not take this the wrong way but I am going to say it anyway.

There are some "atheists" that are more "Christian" in the true sense of the word than some people who profess to be "Christian".

I have said this and similar things many times when I have stated that: God is a searcher of hearts and minds, not of religious affiliations or lack thereof and that it is important what one does and why one does it and what one knows.

Take care, be ready.

Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.

When you feed the hungry, clothe the naked, heal the sick you do unto me. I believe that is what the man, Jesus is supposed to have said.

A hungry person is a hungry person regardless of whether he lives as ant or grasshopper. (I'm assuming all know the story) If I have a large bowl of beans, what does it avail me to not share them? What pleasure can I get out of teaching the grasshopper a lesson, and what lesson does the grasshopper learn other than how cruel others can be?

Do unto others as ye would have them do unto you. Another of the man, Jesus' sayings.

I am an atheist and believe that Jesus was a man like all men. But I admire his love of all humanity and feel such admiration for it that I can do no less.

saints and merried people are present, we are together with saints and merried people.

Mr. Cal Thomas, i prefer saints and merried people to Quran and Bible.

Ahmet Necdet Sezer Hocam, ne olacak Alarko'nun isleri, pilav yerken kirildi disleri? ben azizleri ve evliyalari tercih ediyorum Kuran ve Incil yerine.

bu arada Boeing ucaklarda irtifa gostergelerinin arizali olmasi ve sekiz seferde iki kere olmasi neyi gostermektedir? Rockefellerler intihar mi etti uc kursunla 2001 yilinda demeliyiz? ya da gazetelerde ucak ve uzay haberleri niye cikmiyor?

bu arada, ordusu bu sekilde bilinen yakin asyali bir devlet var mi bilmiyorum. DAnimarka BAsbakanini NATO GEnel Sekreteri yapma teklifi zaten bir yol gosteriyor. Mesut Yilmaz da herhalde bir yerdedir ve yola cikmistir. simdi benim sorum Kemal Dervis ve Guler SAbanci ile birlikte mi calisiyor Ordu?

en buyuk Uskuplu de geliyor SAyin Ilker BAsbug, Onur Oymen'in Bursa'daki ofisinin yerini biliyor musunuz? Isil MAydaer afislerdeki gibi guzel bir kadin degil.

benim gozumde ordunun generalleri kardinaller, subaylari rahiplerdir. On Kasim'da Anitkabir'de gordugum subaylar Anadolu'nun duzeyine gore gorevlerinde bulunmaktadir.

so greetings to you, sir.

other than water crystals, www.hado.net, for the 60% of body "home" is water and how we treat each other is how we are,

other than water crystals, Mr CAl Thomas, what we intake and how we treat the intake shall be what we shall give and also what we have in the house and in our body and in our presence.

this is the main origin and reason and path of responsibility and this is the beginning of charity.

what you shall give to some one else in charity, shall be what you shall be able to intake.

if you can drink your urine, Mr. Cal Thomas, if you prepare your urine for you to be able to drink in the morning, then you shall have the connection and health.

in the world wars, in Germany, women washed the cloths with urine, like inhabitants did in ANadolu.

stomach is the second brain, there are cells in the stomach which are also in the brain. maybe it is store-mach or store-mag(netics) for the body.

"akli basina gelmek", to be mature, to be sane, is by means of this re-placement of brain and stomach.

ispanyollar zaten becerdi.

gotunden de bok getirtirim.

Guler SAbanci'nin agzina burnuna sicarim.

in Ikea Bursa, there is a photo on the wall, Smaland is the "Land that All Began, Home They Go"

make the wedding at home, King of Sweden. cook the meal on Your own.

Aysun Kayaci da Levilileri calissin,.

Turk Telekom, Devlet BAhceli, Urdun, Durmazlar A.S., Dogan YAyincilik ve SAbah Medya HAbercilik ve MAgazin ve Televizyon Dizi ve Sinema YAyim Sirketleri icin de talepte bulunuyorum.

Levent'teki Sabanci Center, Isbank Kuleleri, YUksek Teknoloji Merkezleri, Uludag Universitesi, Gebze Yuksek Teknoloji Turkcell Merkez ve SAbanci Universitesi, mobil iletisim sirketleri, Digiturk ve Koc uydu ve dijital internet ve televizyon yayini sirketleri cercevesinde de genisletmenizi saygilarimla.

tam olarak sorum su, goruntuleme ve dinleme cesitlerinde, dinlemege ve goruntulemege baslandiginda verilen tepkiler neler olmus?

mesela on saniye sonra, iki saniye sonra, hatta baslar baslamaz diyelim kizilotesi yonlendirerek dinleme ve goruntuleme yapildiginda kisi ve fertler uzerinde neler gorulmus ve baslamis ve kaydedilmis? alt ve ust katta oturanlar nasil etkilenmis?

uydu, yeryuzu tesla, kizilotesi, morotesi, mikrodalga, termal. bunu Aselsan ve Bilkent uzerinden gelecek raporlarla duyurur musunuz, arz etsem?

bu arada sayin Ilker BAsbug, dinleme ve goruntuleme cesitlerini, kullanilan enerji ve frekans boyu temelinde siralar ve etkilerini aciklar misiniz kamuoyuna?

by the way, Pepsi in Ikea Bursa delivers unclimited beverage for one unit of currency. they had offered to build a sugar factory for EAst of Anatolia.

why has King of Sweden, Kingdom of Michael, caused the Doughter suffer this much?

shall there be a European Union in 2010, King of Sweden His Excellency?

St Thomas and St Augustine were in Nicaea Bursa too. one moved to Arabia and India. one moved to Africa.

in the middle of MArch, in Medine, Ahmet prophet shall be visited for the day of birth of Ahmet prophet.

the company names are Ikea and Vestel.
in Ikea Bursa, the houseware, electronic houseware is from Vestel Denizbank.

nasilsiniz Devlet BAhceli? abim buralardaymis : )

St Philip, Breads in a BAsket

www.milliyet.com.tr/content/galeri/yeni/goster.asp?prm=0,533424&id=1&galeriid=5936#galeriStart

in Tunceli, Kemal Kilicdaroglu is known with sword. the houseware delivered by governor in the city is from the company which has given the houseware in the houseware company of Sweden.

and yesterday Recep Erdogan was in MAnisa.
and i have talked about Denizli.

King of Sweden has announced that the kingdom of Sweden, Kingdom of Michael, is not capable of supplying the budget to have an overseas wedding.

and the wedding of the Princess of Sweden, has been scheduled for 2010. and the second daughter is waiting for the first wedding.

>> The threat of an empty stomach is a great
>> motivator.

Right. When I was pregnant, sick, newly-widowed, and up to my ears in medical-related debt, your quote was one of the comments made to me by my mother and stepfather. It was their excuse not to even send their grandchildren a Christmas present.

In the end our poverty was a great 'motivator'. It motivated me to take the kids and leave the monstrous country the US has become.

I don't bother to visit my parents. They can damn well take care of themselves, and if they can't then that is their problem. That is what I told their neighbour who called to inform me of their suffering and their poor physical state.

You speak of 'hope'. The first hope that I knew came the day I arrived, when my new neighbour, a retired engineer and the only man in the village who speaks English, took my hand and said, 'Madame, you and your children are in France. You are safe now.'

At first the French government spent French money on us. But within the year I was paying taxes. Last year I paid over 100k Euros, money which will look after my fellow Frenchmen just as they once looked after my children and me. My oldest son will be a pediatric nurosurgeon within the year, and my next younger son is studying biochemistry. They were born Americans, but are now loyal to the country that took us in and gave us the care that was unavailable in the US.

You know nothing of real compassion.

Now I am in a position where I can give instead of receiving. I see in my children the gentleness and kindness, and none of that hard-nosed selfishness so common in Americans.

I can hardly believe this post is from someone billed as a Christian. I went back and looked through the Gospels. Nowhere did I see Jesus telling us to only help the poor that had acted responsibly.

Also, take a look at the early church in Jerusalem where all shared what they had, where there was no distinction between rich and poor and where the rich sold their land and brought their money to the Apostles so that it could be distributed to the church.

Has love of the free market system so blinded us to the need for charity? And how can anybody still defend a system that just robbed all of us blind?

If you see a hungry child, will you just pass by because he is hungry due to his parents' moral or financial failures?

Some people have been living over the heads, but a lot of people lost their jobs or commited the terrible sin of getting sick without having good insurance. I guess we should just throw the loosers on the streets while the rest of us feel smuch and self righteous about our good values, and wisdom... until we lose our jobs or get sick.

If a man is hungry because he acted foolish, is he any less hungry that the man who was victim of bad circumstances? Maybe we should make the poor wear lables at the soup kitchens to make sure that the foolish starve.

I guess that these slackers shouldn't eat, then.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26776283

In hard times, tent cities rise across the country
Since foreclosure mess, homeless advocates report rise in encampments

RENO, Nev. - A few tents cropped up hard by the railroad tracks, pitched by men left with nowhere to go once the emergency winter shelter closed for the summer.

Then others appeared — people who had lost their jobs to the ailing economy, or newcomers who had moved to Reno for work and discovered no one was hiring.

Within weeks, more than 150 people were living in tents big and small, barely a foot apart in a patch of dirt slated to be a parking lot for a campus of shelters Reno is building for its homeless population. Like many other cities, Reno has found itself with a "tent city" — an encampment of people who had nowhere else to go.

From Seattle to Athens, Ga., homeless advocacy groups and city agencies are reporting the most visible rise in homeless encampments in a generation.

Nearly 61 percent of local and state homeless coalitions say they've experienced a rise in homelessness since the foreclosure crisis began in 2007, according to a report by the National Coalition for the Homeless. The group says the problem has worsened since the report's release in April, with foreclosures mounting, gas and food prices rising and the job market tightening.

"It's clear that poverty and homelessness have increased," said Michael Stoops, acting executive director of the coalition. "The economy is in chaos, we're in an unofficial recession and Americans are worried, from the homeless to the middle class, about their future."

Hope is empty on an empty stomach