Having Faith is Fine; Seeking a Theocracy is Not

The better question: Is it God's will for a Christian to lead a nation?

In regards to politics and holding public office, what are Jesus Christ’s teachings?
When Jesus was on earth, thousands of honest hearted people recognized, not just his greatness, but his concern for others. It’s no surprise that they wanted to make him king.
(John 6:10, 14, 15) 10 “Jesus said: “Have the men recline as at meal.” Now there was a lot of grass in the place. Therefore the men reclined, about five thousand in number…. 14 Hence when the men saw the signs he performed, they began to say: “This is for a certainty the prophet that was to come into the world.” 15 Therefore Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone.”
Jesus declined to get involved in politics.
Jesus' response was based on at least three factors: his Father's view of expressions of human self-determination, which include human rule; Jesus' awareness that there are powerful, hidden forces working against even the best human efforts at rulership; and God's purpose to establish a heavenly government to rule over the entire earth.
His Father’s view: The lamentable record of human self-rule confirms the truthfulness of Jeremiah 10:23: "I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step." History has proved that humans do not have the capacity to rule successfully without their Creator.
Jesus fully agreed. Independence from God was loathsome to him. "I do nothing of my own initiative," he said. "I always do the things pleasing to [God]." (John 4:34; 8:28, 29) With no divine authorization to receive kingship from humans, Jesus did not even consider accepting it. This does not mean, however, that he was reluctant to help his fellowman. On the contrary, he did all in his power to assist people to find the greatest happiness then and in the future. He even gave his life for mankind. (Matthew 5:3-11; 7:24-27; John 3:16) But Jesus knew that "for everything there is an appointed time," including God's time to assert his sovereignty over mankind. (Ecclesiastes 3:1; Matthew 24:14, 21, 22, 36-39)

Jesus kept out of politics because he was aware of powerful, hidden forces.
Satan, the world's secret ruler, the Bible tells us, offered Jesus "all the kingdoms of the world and their glory" in exchange for one act of worship. (Matthew 4:8-10) Jesus was offered world rulership—but on the Devil's terms. Satan could actually make such an offer because, as Jesus himself called the Devil, he is "the ruler of the world". (John 14:30). The apostle Paul described him as "the god of this system of things." (2 Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 6:12).
Jesus did not fall prey to this temptation. Jesus knew that the Devil does not have mankind's best interests at heart. He described Satan as "a murderer" and as "the father of lies and of all that is false." (John 8:44). A world "lying in the power" of a wicked spirit can never be truly happy. (1 John 5:19) But the Devil will not have this authority indefinitely. Jesus will shortly depose Satan and completely eliminate his influence.(Hebrews 2:14; Revelation 20:1-3).
A third reason why Jesus stayed out of politics is that he knew that at a future set time, God would establish a heavenly government to rule over the earth. The Bible calls this government God's Kingdom, and it was the main theme of Jesus' teaching. (Luke 4:43; Revelation 11:15) Jesus taught his disciples to pray for that Kingdom to come, for only under its rule will 'God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven.' (Matthew 6:9, 10)
Daniel 2:44 says, "In the days of those kings [ruling at the end of the present system] the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these [man-made] kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite." God's Kingdom will have to "crush" earthly rulerships because these insist on perpetuating the God-defying spirit of self-determination promoted by Satan back in the garden of Eden. In addition to working against mankind's best interests, those who strive to perpetuate that spirit put themselves on a collision course with the Creator. (Psalm 2:6-12; Revelation 16:14, 16)

Jesus always did things God's way. Instead of choosing an independent course and trying to prop up or improve the existing system of things by political means, he worked hard to advance the interests of God's Kingdom, the only solution to the world's ills.

God's Kingdom is the real key to a truly happy world, and the message announcing it is rightly described as good news.

In order to help people make an informed decision about rulership, Jesus commissioned his disciples to preach the "good news of the kingdom . . . in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations" before the end of the present system comes. (Matthew 24:14)

This is the message all true Christians should preach: God’s Kingdom is the only solution to the world’s problems.

I am a Christian who believes in the separation of church and state and an Obama supporter. When I responded to an anti-Obama email sent by a family member who is a pastor, this is his response:

I do not think that anyone here is accusing Hussien of being the anit-christ, but there are certain values that he holds that are clearly anti-scripture. McCain nor Obama are perfect - none of us are, but the standard of Truth, which is the Bible - NOT JOURNALISM, clearly defines what is right and wrong. Abortion - WRONG. Homosexuality - WRONG. Obama is without question on the wrong side of these issues - His voting record supports this despite what he says and what the left wing media tries to propose. When you cast your ballot in favor of a person that aligns himself with a policy that is anti-scripture, which means anti/against God, then you are sowing a seed in an area that you do not want to harvest. I cannot understand how a Christian can support abortion and homosexuality and be willing to be held accountable for the results. And you cannot seperate the man from his policies - they are inseperable. We cannot hide behind the excuse of: "Well, I'm voting for the man
and not the policies". That is impossible. God and His Word are one and the same. A man and his word/policies are the same as well.

The spiritual aspect of this election is the MOST important - not a side issue. The War, Health Care, Taxes and the Economy are the side issues. The Lord is far more concerned with the spiritual health of this nation than the current condition of our economy. A proper spiritual atmoshphere will promote a good economy and so forth....

But since you mention some of Obamas policies, such as , Socialized/Universal health care.... Yes, he says he wants to provide this, but so did Clinton 16 yrs ago. Somebody has to pay for this. That means higher taxes - this is irrefutable and undeniable. This is Obama's plan - HIGHER TAXES. Now you may not mind working harder to make less money, but I do. What will be the result of overtaxing corporations and the wealthy? They will simply reduce their expenses by cutting jobs and reducing their investments into this economy. Raising taxes has NEVER stimulated an economy and it never will. We have enough government intrusion into our lives as it is, we do not need government to be our saviour - THE POSITION IS FILLED. We are instructed by the Word that we are to take care of the poor etc. , but you would be hard pressed to say that it was the role of Govt. to do it. There are better and more practical ways...

These are not just opinions but facts. With regards to journalists, I'm not that sure that many, especially those on the left are interested in the facts, but rather promoting their opinions and agenda. Too much blood has been spilled to purchase our freedoms for us to forfeit them to our own federal government. In addition, a close inspection of our constitution will reveal that we are not a democracy, but rather a REPUBLIC by the people and for the people. We are not interested in a world view, We do not consider ourselves to be citizens of the world first, but rather AMERICANS and the true spirit of patriotism is COUNTRY FIRST. It is impossible, this side of heaven, to have the entire world love us, but it is very possible to make sure that the world fears/respects us. That is something that Obama will not provide. That is evident by his own loathing of the 2nd amendmant.

We vote for a platform that best conforms to the Word of God, not what my country can do for me. We need a person in the white house that will best lead us in a righteous direction in order for the blessing of the Lord to manifest. We need a person that will appoint judges that will oppose unrighteousness and judge according to our foundational documents - not legislate from the bench. We must have a president that will not raise the white flag and surrender to our enemies abroad. Are there better men than John McCain - yes, but McCain measures up to the Standard of the Word of God MUCH better than Obama.

We love you both, but cannot support or respect your current disposition concerning this election and the direction of our county. We would welcome open debate, but be prepared because I have the tendency to be intense and sometimes allow my passion and love for my country to get the best of me. I do not wish to offend, but I believe in calling a spade a spade. However; there is NOTHING that you could say that would sway Jackie and I from our position and I am sure that you feel the same - so it may be a mute point.

Have a blessed and wonderful day!

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I love digging for verses using a search engine and then assembling a train of thought based on a few key words. Here's a sample from the KJV containing words used to indentify things in everyday life, not just for ancients, but moderns also. What this does is extract terms for a logical argument.

Gn:18:25:
That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the

righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

(KJV)

DEU 28:47 Because thou servedst not the LORD thy god with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart,

for the abundance of all things;

Ps:34:19:
Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the Lord delivereth him out of them all. (KJV)

Ps:58:11:
So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous: verily he is a God that judgeth in the

earth. (KJV)

Prv:12:3:
A man shall not be established by wickedness: but the root of the righteous shall not be moved. (KJV)

Prv:14:12:
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. (KJV)

Lk:12:15:
And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the

abundance of the things which he possesseth. (KJV)

Mt:12:34:
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the

heart the mouth speaketh. (KJV)

Mk:12:44:
For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her

living. (KJV)

Mt:13:12:
For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not,

from him shall be taken away even that he hath. (KJV)

Lk:13:20:
And again he said, Whereunto shall I liken the kingdom of God? (KJV)

Mt:16:6:
Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the

Sadducees. (KJV)

Mt:16:7:
And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread. (KJV)

Mt:16:8:
Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves,

because ye have brought no bread? (KJV)

Mt:16:9:
Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many

baskets ye took up? (KJV)

Mt:16:10:
Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up? (KJV)

Mt:16:11:
How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware

of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? (KJV)

Mt:16:12:
Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of

the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. (KJV)

Mt:25:29:
For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not

shall be taken away even that which he hath. (KJV)

ROM 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive

abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ. )

CO2 8:2 how that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty

abounded unto the riches of their liberality.

CO2 8:14 but by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want,

that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality:

CO2 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there

was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted

above measure.

CO2 8:20 Avoiding this, that no man should blame us in this abundance which is administered by us:

LUK 21:1 And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury.
LUK 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more

shall your heavenly father give the holy spirit to them that ask him?
CO1 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
CO1 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same spirit.
CO1 12:9 To another faith by the same spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same spirit;
CO1 12:28 And god hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers,

after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
CO1 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?
CO1 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
CO1 14:1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
CO1 14:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the

edifying of the church.

EPH 4:8 Wherefore he saith, when he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts

unto men.

HEB 2:4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and

gifts of the holy ghost, according to his own will?
HEB 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts

according to the law:
ROM 11:29 For the gifts and calling of god are without repentance.
ROM 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let

us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;

TH2 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be

taken out of the way.

REV 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send

gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

REV 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the

earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the

abundance of her delicacies.

Welton and gang need to lighten up. A president cannot impose a theocracy. That would take a president, congress and the state legislatures. And if they agree to this its the will of the people (because they would be too spineless to do this without public support). This isn't going to happen anytime soon.

However I am concerned with your statement "In a democratic electoral campaign in a nation committed to religious freedom, there is no place for advancing partisan political claims in the language of or through the institutions of religion." If your are talking about the minute details of a tax bill, I would agree, but we cannot leave morality out of the issues of the day, and this inevitably involves religion. Are we to resolve the abortion debate absent religion? Can we make a decision on the death penalty absent a desire to seek God's will?

We will not agree on all things, and politics will taint religion, but I shudder to think of what politics would look like if religion did not taint it.

If there was a time when a theocracy was a peril in the United States it was long, long ago. That we are not one is not because of the vigilance of the ACLU, the Interfaith Alliance, or the Council for Separation of Church and State. In spite of crosses on public lands, plaques with the Ten Commandments on them in courthouses and "In God We Trust" on legal tender, we have muddled along with a separation well established.

What we have seen in recent years is a very public conversation such as in this column about an impending crisis based on what candidate does or does not say. Find something else to wring your hands about. While you're at it, have you considered that you are creating an atmosphere of perceived persecution that is partially driving the dialog on the conservative religious side?

If there was a time when a theocracy was a peril in the United States it was long, long ago. That we are not one is not because of the vigilance of the ACLU, the Interfaith Alliance, or the Council for Separation of Church and State. In spite of crosses on public lands, plaques with the Ten Commandments on them in courthouses and "In God We Trust" on legal tender, we have muddled along with a separation well established.

What we have seen in recent years is a very public conversation such as in this column about an impending crisis based on what candidate does or does not say. Find something else to wring your hands about. While you're at it, have you considered that you are creating an atmosphere of perceived persecution that is partially driving the dialog on the conservative religious side?

Again read the information on Sarah Palin at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin . The reference has what appears to be an accurate biography of Sarah Palin. There appears to be nothing in the information provided that she ever tried or would try to impose her religious beliefs on anyone. With respect to prayers in public schools, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_prayer.
an excerpt:

"United States
Main articles: Education in the United States and Religion in the United States

By the 1990s the courts began addressing prayer at school extracurricular with less clarity. Prayer in public schools is legal and one cannot go to jail for praying at school. While some courts allowed student prayers from the podium at graduation exercises, a federal appellate court in Houston ruled in 1999 that the recent controversy has revolved around prayer at school athletics events. Guidance was provided by the Supreme Court in Santa Fe Independent School Dist. v. Doe [2000] when it upheld a lower court ruling invalidating prayers conducted over the public address system prior to high school games at state school facilities before a school-gathered audience.

Those in favor of sponsored prayer in state schools publicly often say that "prayer" is forbidden in state schools. [1] Prayer is not and never has been forbidden. Regarding the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment, the courts have consistently ruled that students' expressions of religious views through prayer or otherwise cannot be abridged unless they can be shown to cause substantial disruption in the school.

Reinstatement of state-sponsored prayer has been attempted in different forms in a number of areas of the U.S. Some introduced a "moment of silence" or "moment of reflection" when a student may, if he or she wishes to, offer a silent prayer."

Sarah Palin's support of using Federal tax dollars to build two bridges to isolated towns in Alaska is disturbing. An overzealous governor trying to max out federal funding for her state? All governors appear to do that.

Wikipedia has excellent reviews on all the candidates. Read them. Become educated and then vote come November.

God’s will I would think would be to heal everyone. Back in the time Jesus saw that the wealthy were keeping all the protein for themselves and the poor and indentured servitude got only bread, a diet of which leads to severe malnutrition, biochemical malfunction and disease, so he was teaching them how to fish and make nets that they could get needed to eat protein and actually lift themselves from poverty. Therefore his will would be “The End of Disease” which you can read the steps and insight here.

There is no cure for disease, but there is a solution, the end of disease
http://intelegen.com/there_is_no_cure_for_disease.htm

You can also read the Fish Story Here
Sirius The FBI Agent and The Fish Company
http://iamblogging.net/Urgo/archives/2004/10/sirius_the_fbi.html

Obviously the people in positions of power are not doing God’s will because we would be implementing Universal Health not Universal Disease Care.

I have analyzed God's energy system design. Gas pipe lines are not his design.

He suspended a nuclear reactor overhead which distributes energy equally for free, all over the planet, effortless to use.

As I brought to our attention before:

In looking at the energy systems in the human body, and there isn't centralized production of energy, there is decentralized production of energy. Each cell has it's own energy production as should each house on the planet. We do need storage just like the ATP molecule in the body.

It's too bad that some don't have me by their side to duel against the fictions. I have this really cool sword ~Excalibur~.

GM is burdened by disease care costs it runs into the tens of billions. This is not good for America. It is time to implement Universal Health, not Universal Disease Care.

I also know about their internal accounting practices, and hence the need for transparency.

CCNL:

Palin has repeatedly endorsed prayer in public schools and teaching creationsim in science classess. That is imposing your religious beliefs on others. Apparently, you haven't though out what those actions would mean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin has what appears to be an accurate biography of Sarah Palin. There appears to be nothing in the information provided that she ever tried or would try to impose her religious beliefs on anyone.

Her support of using Federal tax dollars to build two bridges to isolated towns in Alaska is disturbing. An overzealous governor trying to max out federal funding for her state? All governors appear to do that.

Now we just have to get her educated about the flaws and errors of the major global religions especially Islam and Christianity!!

there are a lot of russian posts here.
i sure would like to know what they are saying.

mark

ANONYMOUS:

If you want to know the will of God, all you have to do is to read the bible.
Once you have done that, you will know his will.

How can that be a mortal sin?

mark

Renounce? That is an interesting word for the theists to use in their attempt to describe the atheists.

This is what they feel they would have to do in order to move from their current theistic state of mind to a perceived atheistic state of mind.

Look up some of the definitions of the word renounce:

"abdicate: give up, such as power, as of monarchs and emperors, or duties and obligations; "The King abdicated when he married a divorcee"

# foreswear: turn away from; give up; "I am foreswearing women forever"
# disown: cast off; "She renounced her husband"; "The parents repudiated their son"

I assure you, I have renounced nothing in this area. I never had any gods, any beliefs in spirits or ghosts or theistic doctrines of any kind. How could I renounce or cast off something which was never in me or on me?

I would never claim to understand why believers believe this stuff. I have opinions, but I know them for being opinions. We are never given the same respect from the believers though, have you noticed that?

They all seem to say they know why atheists are atheists. They look from inside their faith encrusted tunnel vision and imagine they can know what motivates someone who is fundamentally different from them.

I advise the faithists to consider a particular word if you really want to know - indifference. It is possible not to care about these gods you believe, to not even think about them outside of conversations with you.

As a Catholic, there is a word for humans claiming to know the will of God...Presumption, and it's a mortal sin.

If Republicans are truly opposed to abortion, where is the concern for parents whose jobs are lost to outsourcing, children born to poor people in crime-ridden ghettos, etc.!?

Religious people, especially those who never had a chance to view the world from outside their indoctrination, have never had to undergo the maturing process regarding ethics and morals that the non-religious pursue.
They have been handed their moral programming and just ate it as is.

As such they are incapable of perceiving any kind of moral structure outside of that process.

It's the usual religionist's complaint, that those who are not religious cannot be moral. From their limited abilities to perceive that which is outside them, this must be true.

Still, it is an infantile response arising from a mind which has never truly matured in this area.

Agapian said: "In this idea, atheism is defined as a total lack of spirituality and would be very rare, since the individual’s brain would be very nearly without consciousness." and

"There are a very large number of people from all political spectrums that renounce any spiritual awareness in the name of atheism so that they do not have to consider moral values on the way to power. Is such an atheist without values able to use political power for something other than himself?"

The problem with that argument is that it's predicated on a religious definition of the biology of brain activity. And an incorrect definition of atheism, which is a lack of belief in G-d.

As for people renouncing religion to protect themselves from moral values- that idea is patently ridiculous. There are far more people committing crimes who are religious, or who claim to be acting as agents of G-d, then there are atheists. Morality is based on the golden rule of do unto others. You'll note: it doesn't depend on a belief in G-d. It depends on treating others as you want to be treated and as such is the basic tenet of any society. For Jews, G-d weighs your good deeds against your bad deeds at the end and it is the treatment of your fellow human beings (and animals) that determine your fate.

You cannot claim only the religious can be moral- all you need to consider is a history of religious wars and crusades. Where is the morality of the Inquisition? Or the destruction of native cultures by forcing them to accept Christianity? Believers could claim they are simply "enlightening" non-believers to save their souls, but harm in the name of religious belief will never be morality or spirituality. By those lights, there are many atheists who are far more moral (and spiritual) than Sarah Palin and George Bush.

So Bill, you're saying a 6 week old cluster of cells should have the same legal rights and protections as a 6 year old child. I find that kind of thinking silly and rather offensive (me being an actual parent rather than somebody pretending to care about children).
However, as long as you're making that point, why don't you explain how the government can protect every "baby" from the moment of conception?

1) How will the federal government keep track of who's pregnant "from the moment of conception"?
2) If the federal government cannot know who's pregnant "from the moment of conception", how can those lives be protected?
3) How will the government be able to tell who aborted their "baby" and who had a miscarriage?

Gee, you seem awfully short of answers!
The church's position is about as useful as saying "all children should be loved" - it's nice, but it cannot be put into law. That's the difference!!!!
Better luck next time!

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We is an impersonal pronoun. I have recently wondered why the bride does not marry the best man, but is left with the groom. Theocracy is the definitive misinterpretation of theology. Man can't be god. Man only be like god. Impersonating god may seem foolish. god cannot impersonate man. The best god can be for man is the judge of man after the fact that man exists.

When god, lord, man word are confused in a mind, the language and the reality don't correlate.

A correligionist adheres to the same religion as another correligionist.

Anything "cratic" is a rule by the prefix.

Theocracy is rule by a god(s). Crassus was a name that played on this definition. If someone assembles, "Geocratic", it could possibly be used in strange logical contexts. And if we are kept down by gravity we may just as well say we are ruled by the Earth.

Rev. Gaddy,

I agree with you entirely. When our national leaders make decisions for the use of force based on whose "God" is on our side vs. rational situation assessments, this will lead the USA into real wars based mainly on "religious ideology". This attitude fostered religious wars in Europe for hundreds of years. We have already had this for the last 8 years. Does the country really want an unnecessary escalation of conflicts based on "theocracy"? I find Governor Palin arrogant for stating with such certainty that our troops in Iraq "are doing God's will". How does she know what is God's will?

The "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross" quote appears to come from Lewis' 1935 novel "It Can't Happen Here". But Lewis probably borrowed and expanded Huey Long's "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the American flag". K8 fan 11:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

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More Troopergate information in John Hosenball's Newsweek article. It seems the judge in the Wooten divorce case warned repeatedly that Palin's disparagement and that of her family could be considered emotional abuse. Three years later and at least two dozen calls, emails, etc. from Palin, her husband, daughter, and aides haven't slowed her down. Last week, she was still disparaging. The judge said that, after monitoring, he maintained the right to grant custody to the trooper and order him to move, with the children, to Anchorage. It will be interesting to see if this happens.

The trooper has guts though to stay in a state where Cheney with lipstick is the governor.

Will the rest of us have enough guts to say, "Eight is enough" to the possibility of another Bush/Cheney/McCain term, vowing that whether or not the Republicans re-name it God's will or dominion theocracy, fascism (complete with trashing of the Constitution, torture, and secret spying) is still fascism?

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The bishops said Biden was right to say human life begins at conception. But the church "does not teach this as matter of faith; it acknowledges it as a matter of objective fact," they said.

"Protection of innocent human life is not an imposition of personal religious conviction but a demand of justice," they added.

Exactly.

…Objectively, most of the body's individual cells are capable of perform metabolic activities characteristic of "life".

As long as the newly conceived human life resides inside the body of a mature and autonomous human female, then her decision to keep or terminate is a matter of personal/medical privacy that should be protected by the the U.S. Constitution (promoting general welfare and protecting privacy of persons, property and effects)

Obviously, if the “protection of human life” was the highest priority, then our government would not have the right to wage war and create "collateral damage" by destroying innocent life.

Until birth, mammalian offspring are not independent beings, but are dependent on their mother for life sustaining nutrients (i.e. Oxygen). This relationship is quite similar to the act of performing CPR.

I am unaware of any law, religious or secular, that explicitly states one person's legal obligation to breathe for another...Especially if it means that “the breather” would/could die or damage their physical/psychological health in the process.

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Sarah Platin is new to politics and that is a great attribute. Let us hew her newness into being a great vice president!!! We shall start by introducing her to the flaws and errors of the global religions. We know them well and soon shall she.

Onward and forward to a new generation of leaders!!!!

Третьяковская галерея
У нас Вы почерпнете множество полезных сведений о Третьяковской галерее, ее истории и экспозиции. Сможете увидеть фотографии Третьяковки. К тому же у нас имеется необходимая информация о прочих достопримечательностях Москвы, множество фотографий достопримечательностей Москвы. Фото экскурсии и прогулки по Москве. Очень большая галерея фотографий Москвы.
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C. Welton Gaddy wrote: "Thus in an election for a secular office, the religious beliefs of a candidate should not be an issue of concern. What should be an issue of concern is how a candidate's religious beliefs will influence the candidate's decision making and development of policy."

Please note the First Amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

This amendment was designed to prevent the imposition of a ‘state’ religion such as Islam and Catholicism, or even Cromwell’s Puritanism, because the Founding Generation of the 1700s was very much aware of the four hundred years of extremely vicious mixing of religion and politics all over Europe, Russia, and the Middle East. It was demonstrated beyond any doubt during that period that the ‘state’ destroys an individual’s formation of spirit rather than enhances it. Most of the spiritual endeavors of that period were forced to withdraw into monastic environments (ivory towers?) in order to exist.

The American Constitution sought to prevent this so that each individual could develop his own spiritual basis AS A NATURAL EXTENSION OF HIS EXISTENCE. It is only when that extension is re-incorporated into political or economic values AND imposed on others that the individual loses the spirituality. In this idea, atheism is defined as a total lack of spirituality and would be very rare, since the individual’s brain would be very nearly without consciousness. Those who find things wrong, justly, with organized religions aren’t exactly unconscious or unfeeling. But suppose you applied the First Amendment to interactions between people, not just between the state and people? That is, if you treated spiritual values as something not to be imposed at all, would it also mean that you didn’t judge someone by yours? On the other hand, if a politician was elected for a lack of spirituality (that is, judged on it), where would the nation be now? There are a very large number of people from all political spectrums that renounce any spitirtual awareness in the name of atheism so that they do not have to consider moral values on the way to power. Is such an atheist without values able to use political power for something other than himself?

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By the way, intestingly, two Roman Catholic bishops have correctly challenged Biden's comments on abortion here:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080909/D933GK981.html

"The bishops said Biden was right to say human life begins at conception. But the church "does not teach this as matter of faith; it acknowledges it as a matter of objective fact," they said.

"Protection of innocent human life is not an imposition of personal religious conviction but a demand of justice," they added.

Exactly.

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"Chickens coming back home to roost."
Who said that?

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Welcome to my world Mr. Gaddy.If McCain-Palin wins the white House my biggest fear will come true. we've seen how the Bush Administration has used evangelical Christianity for partisan politics. I can think of no more nightmarish scenario than to have someone like Palin in the white House, ready to impose her personal faith on everyone else. by the time they're done, the Constitution and the bill of rights will be 2 meaningless pieces of paper and I don't say that lightly or as hyperbole.

i find that when people of any faith say "with G-d on our side" they really mean, "I will wage war on everything you believe because only my G-d is right. Once we lose separation of church and state, we lose everything that made us a great country.

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