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Thanks, Brian. Here's my take on the issue:
http://friendsofjustice.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/the-devil-in-the-armor/

Alan Bean

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BarryFitz:
It may seem that some people think that a female could lead the U.S.A. It is the intention of Yahweh Jehovah that men be in authority over women and this has been in existence since the Garden of Eden. Non-negligent people will continue this dynamicism if they are truly non-negligent people. Since the creation of the Office of the Presidency, a woman has never held High Office. It is the intention of Yahweh Jehovah that the woman be the helper of the man.
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Maybe that's how your god does things, but it's not how my gods work. I'm not Christian, so I'm not bound by the gender roles set out by Paul.
My husband and I are equal in all respects - we both have jobs that bring in income, we both contribute to the household bills, we both cook, we both do laundry, we both clean, we both do yard work, we take turns being on top in bed.
And he has said on more than one occasion that I should run for public office. Unlike Paul, he isn't afraid of women. In fact, he finds women whose vocabulary is limited to "Yes dear" extremely boring.

and wife, is the WE-LIFE.

"alright, lets go on with letters to Ephesusians. shepherd is sheep herd, massiah is the group of teacher, husband is the house band.

so how shall they ride? how shall they move? how shall they have lessons? how shall they be in harmony? "

alright, lets go on with letters to Ephesusians. shepherd is sheep herd, massiah is the group of teacher, husband is the house band.

so how shall they ride? how shall they move? how shall they have lessons? how shall they be in harmony?

Williams Bush, i explained boron (burak) mineral and hydrogen. the agreement between Williams Bush and Recep Tayyip Erdogan for boron mineral
is not my trade. the money saved for third party, that is me, is not my money. it may be given to the women and children in Northern Iraq

i just drove attention to boron mineral and hydrogen other than petroleum and explained the religious heaven garden army of mageddo DAniel cases in Iraq

and i explained Burak mineral and Ahmet prophet

Ahmet prophet, because of Burak mineral, had been named as crazy and insane, today Pope VAtican and King Arabia are together. Syria and Israel have the common base, where Nizamiye Northern Iraq has been completed.

bu arada Suudi Arabistan Filistin ve El KAide'den sonra Recep Tayyip Erdogan, bu dostluk nasil gosterildi size Williams Bush ve Israil tarafindan, ogrenebilir miyim Recep Tayyip Erdogan?

i had granted the money here for copyright and patent in Washington Post OnFAith to children. i just want the debt in Rahmi Koc and Guler Sabanci closed.

one more time, one more item

Ahmet prophet, because of Burak mineral, had been named as crazy and insane, today Pope VAtican and King Arabia are together. Syria and Israel have the common base, where Nizamiye Northern Iraq has been completed.

bu arada Suudi Arabistan Filistin ve El KAide'den sonra Recep Tayyip Erdogan, bu dostluk nasil gosterildi size Williams Bush ve Israil tarafindan, ogrenebilir miyim Recep Tayyip Erdogan?

i had granted the money here for copyright and patent in Washington Post OnFAith to children. i just want the debt in Rahmi Koc and Guler Sabanci closed.

Williams Bush, i explained boron (burak) mineral and hydrogen
the agreement between Williams Bush and Recep Tayyip Erdogan for boron mineral
is not my trade. the money saved for third party, that is me, is not my money.
it may be given to the women and children in Northern Iraq

i just drove attention to boron mineral and hydrogen other than petroleum
and explained the religious heaven garden army of mageddo DAniel cases in Iraq

and i explained Burak mineral and Ahmet prophet

shepherd + e = sheep herd
church + ee = che ur che

earnestly dancing, Dick Cheney.

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It may seem that some people think that a female could lead the U.S.A. It is the intention of Yahweh Jehovah that men be in authority over women and this has been in existence since the Garden of Eden. Non-negligent people will continue this dynamicism if they are truly non-negligent people. Since the creation of the Office of the Presidency, a woman has never held High Office. It is the intention of Yahweh Jehovah that the woman be the helper of the man.

For Catholics, it is not a matter of whether women are worthy to serve as priests, because if that were the measure, we would have run out of priests after the Apostles. It is, however, a matter of following Christ's teaching as laid our in Scripture on the sacrament of Holy Orders. Pope John Paul the Great further explained this in his letter ORDINATIO SACERDOTALIS.

It has nothing to do with how the Church view women. The Church has had thousands of women saints, both married and professed, our greatest saint and advocate is a woman, the Blessed Mother Mary. JPII wrote a beautiful letter to women, about women, MULIERIS DIGNITATEM.

Women can and should serve in the Church. There is so much to do for the world that priests need help from both men and women, young and old. But the Sacraments, from which this work of the Church flows, is for men. If you have issue with that... talk to the Big Guy. He made the rules. We just have to follow them.

I'm not sure that I understand the meaning and intent of the claim, "the New Testament texts regarding women only apply to the church and not the secular world." As written, it seems to imply a dualistic morality and a dualistic theology, as if to say that Christian women are inherently different from non-Christian women in their very nature, or that God's intention for non-Christian marriage is fundamentally different from his intention for Christian marriage. Is this what the "leading conservative Christian leader" meant?

This strikes me as a very odd position to take. It also strikes me that none of the three alternatives you have suggested for tomorrow's women make very much sense. Then, again, perhaps I misunderstand you, as well. Here are my thoughts.

a) Does abandoning the approach of their parents to interpreting the bible mean abandoning their specific faith tradition to join another, perhaps similar tradition (like option c), or completely abandoning 2 thousand years of Christian biblical tradition for something else, entirely? Option b) seems to fit quite well with that way of seeing reality. What did you mean?

one more time, one more item.

the stack type of your article is "last in first out", Mr McLAren, thanks.

the language is vital and alive, the language is the inheritance. the interpretations are not the inheritance. if you educate your children with the language, they shall have the interpretation. in computer science, this is known as dynamic allocation.

my guess, they shall learn the language, the language that Bible had been printed, doughters shall learn how to bake breads and cakes, in lack of breads, whether in Izmir or in Israel, or both.

the first i had argued with Williams Bush was the Central Asia Oils. "how much oil does USA need for virtues and honour", not here in OnFAith but in Washington Post news comments account.

adimin israil, danimarka, fransa, osmanli, amerika icin ne anlama geldigini herbir bicak darbesi ile ogrenirken, derisi yuzulmus ve esen herbir ruzgarda aciyan ciplak etimle yururken, aldigin parayi dusunmez misin BAsbakan Denilen?

Williams Bush, thanks for I-Phones without MMS and Video, as we had discussed here in OnFaith, the heavy burden on the energy web and effects of these audiovisual packages.

the snow in Kenya reminded me the documentaries on NAtional Geographic where insects were climbing to top of the hills and collecting on their shells the vapour in the morning wind in the desert.

JApan or G-7 should make the experiments in the deserts and oceans, they should not harm humans. they all should give benefit and they may provide with the afforestation of Africa. in stead of war and threaten and warning, the equipment may be employed for peace and development. this is advanced, ahead of internet and computer science.

the several collisions which give a heat one hundred thousand times more than the heat of the sun and one billions times smaller than piece of dust. this is a dot matrix print and reminds the electric oven lighter.

Folks,
Brian McLaren opines:

"He believes that the New Testament texts regarding women only apply to the church and not the secular world. I find that line of interpretation very convenient for conservative churches, and impossible to justify theologically. "

Catholicism which represents the majority of Christians in this World disagrees with this man's opinion. So does Eastern Orthodoxy. So did most of Protestantism until the past half century or so. Protestantism has only gone over to a female clergy since its inability to attract and hold congregations has become so apparent.

In truth, Catholicism has always had far more opportunity for women religious through its congregations of nuns than Protestantism did until the recent past. Indeed, some of the greatest Catholic saints/religious were nuns such as Theresa of Avila and Catherine of Siena. For hundreds of years, though, the only thing a woman could do in the Protestant Church was to become the parson's wife.

Is there any better proof that the Bible was written by men than the exclusion of women from the highest office?

The convenient truth shall keep you free. Slavery is inconvenient. If you make somebody a slave you take away all of their value. Freedom is priceless, so we aren't the prisoners of our own price tags. Make your own luck and make your own love. Just don't try buying it. The harder you work, the more luck you tend to have. Love takes care of the rest, so sweet dreams do come true. Love is a battlefield.

"He believes that the New Testament texts regarding women only apply to the church and not the secular world. I find that line of interpretation very convenient for conservative churches, and impossible to justify theologically." Can you be more specific, please?

The role of the minister is vastly different from the role of a politician. Our Constitution specifies that government cannot promote religion and the concept of our government came along 2,000 years after theology. So what do you cite theologically that leads you to your conclusion?

I am one of those "daughters" that you speak of in your blog. In my lifetime I have learned that women should not serve as pastors, but over the years I have seen women serve as deacons. Just yesterday, I had the thought that maybe women should not hold leadership positions in church, but could in government. (It was by coincidence that I found your blog.) It does seem to me there is a difference, but I can't explain why that is. I have always learned that women should not hold leadership positions over a man at church. This does not apply outside of church to me, however and I'm thinking it may be because I've always kept the two seperate. I'm just muddling through all of these thoughts. I thought of the old testament and remembered the story of Deborah who was an Old Testament judge. God used her as a leader. I do not recall a woman as pastor in the bible, though. Maybe you remember an instance? At any rate, I have three small women that I am raising and do not want to teach them that they should be stay-at-home mothers and never aspire to be, say, president.

I mean *now* they want some 'separation of Church and State:' the difference that always is revealed, though, is they want this *inasmuch and only inasmuch as it gives *them and only them* an 'unassailable' and 'unquestionable' place from which to assault the rights of others on all fronts.

"Conservative religious leaders believe the New Testament texts regarding women only apply to the church and not the secular world."

Unless, of course, they want to use a woman of conditionally-granted privilege to try and apply their Church's demands onto the secular world with politics.

Remember that?

Two things to observe about Brian's post:
1) It's about him, not Jesus
2) His sheep suit is slipping, and the wolf is showing.

Brian you don't believe that the Bible is to be taken literally. And you've never tried to make a literal interpretation. To you everything is relative and to be taken in context with current culture. You have no credibility in this area for this reason. It is a joke for you to criticize anyone for anything they want to read into the Bible as if you know if they are right or wrong when you have taken a stance that there is no absolute truth in the Bible.

I guess a thoroughly postmodern English teacher is qualified to speak on the theological nuances of egalitarianism versus complementarianism in the church.

Wait! I get it! I am an egalitarian complementarian.

Whew!