Thank God For The Atheists
I give thanks to God for the 21% of atheists who affirm their belief in Her or Him, and I am blown away by the holiness of such people who manage to pray once a week. In fact, I think that I aspire to being one of them (though with a bit more regular prayer).
Of course the quick response to such a finding is that American atheists must not be a very bright group if over a fifth of them say that they believe in God. Don’t they know what the word means?! But in truth, they may be way ahead of many of us who count ourselves among the faithful.
Perhaps what this twenty-one percent is expressing is their awareness that the categories of both “faith in God” and “atheism,” as both are commonly used, are too narrow to capture the complexity of that which they believe and that which they do not. It seems to me entirely reasonable to deny the existence of the old man in the sky which most people have in mind when they use the word “God”, affirm belief in something/someone, and accept that one may as well use the word that most people use when they want to talk about something which is, almost by definition, beyond human language.
The disbelief of these atheists sparkles with a holiness that in Jewish tradition has been the hallmark of none less than the biblical Abraham and the great Moses Maimonides. It was the latter who insisted that no positive statements could be made about God because they would constraint an infinite being to finite language.
According to Maimonides, one could not speak of God as great or merciful or anything else that relied on human experience to understand. One could only affirm the existence of a god who was beyond all measure and comparison – in other words, One who is truly infinite.
I appreciate that praying to such a god, especially in times of need, crises, or pain can be almost impossible. At least I find it so. I want that loving presence, that perfect parent in the sky who hears my prayers, notices me and my family, etc. But I also know that if such a God exists, He or She has a funny way of listening to some of us and failing to notice others!
Abraham knew that long ago, which is why the Bible’s first monotheist is also its first atheist. It was Abraham who heard God’s plan about destroying Sodom and argued that doing so failed to meet the criteria of good judgment; that if God was the most righteous, He should act more justly! In effect, Abraham was willing to deny God’s godliness if He didn’t measure up to Abraham’s understanding of justice. While that might be a bit arrogant, it strikes me as a very healthy corrective for the same man who was willing to “blindly” alter his life and that of his family just because God called him to do so.
It seems to me that Abraham’s holy atheism is the needed balance to a life of passionate faith in which one give’s themselves over to that which they most believe. In fact, the more we believe in something, the more ready we need to be to question it and even to walk away from it. Abraham lived that lesson and so I think, do those twenty-one percent.
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Brad Hirschfield
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July 7, 2008; 10:32 AM ET
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Posted by: dion, derek | July 9, 2008 2:32 AM
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monotheist:
"I wonder what the derffirence between the atheists and animales????????"
Well, atheists can spell better.
Posted by: jimbo | July 8, 2008 12:53 PM
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B R E A K I N G -- N E W S:
The IRANian "AL-TAQiYAH" [islamic-Zionist] Army threatened to Destroy the "KABBA" in SAUDI ARAbiA & the "DOME Of The ROCK" in JERUSALEM & other islamic, Christian, Judeo, Hindu, Buddhist Holy sites.. IF,
PERSiA & their Mulla's gets attacked by any Judeo-JEWS & or Judeo-Christs secondaries , or Judeo-Hindu's [via HinDUTVA, aka Hindu-Zionists] teriary's or Judeo-Buddhists et al.
Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 12:13 PM
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Fratricidal sky-gods do not exist, and there is not an atheist alive who believes they do.
The results from the Pew Poll are a result of poor methodology and nothing more.
Posted by: B-man | July 8, 2008 3:25 AM
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Even as a young child I knew logically there could be no other answer for design than a designer and got busy about finding who that designer is.
I am happy to say the answer is only found in Christ Jesus.
Yahweh has made a record, the Bible, that is irrefutable and glorious in its perfect wisdom. We CAN know God and we can be right with Him through Son.
Praise be to Yah we have a Savior. HalleluYah!
Patrick Burwell/OnlyJesusSaves.com
Posted by: Patrick@OnlyJesusSaves.com | July 8, 2008 3:06 AM
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maybe a better word for the people that the Rabbi is talking about is (a)theist. Check out peter rollins' How (Not) to Speak of God.
Posted by: kyle | July 7, 2008 6:57 PM
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I wonder what the derffirence between the atheists and animales?????????????
Posted by: monotheist | July 7, 2008 5:01 PM
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I suggest the rabbi reads Sam Harris for a bit of insight and balance on the Pew survey. I would have expected better from a Rabbi than this fatuous piece but I suppose rationality is not one of the strong points of the religious mind. As for Maria Janna I can see that logic isn't one of her strong points.
Posted by: Jonathan | July 7, 2008 2:27 PM
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Like Harris pointed out in his piece, this "21%" amounts to about 40 people, who may have thought it funny to tell the pollsters they were simultaneously atheistic and theistic.
Let's be clear on terminology: atheists DO NOT believe in any gods.
Posted by: Stuart | July 7, 2008 2:24 PM
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Religion is a disgusting racket, a sleazy scam that keeps the clergy employed and the people dumbed-down and indoctrinated into believing absurd fairy tales of skygods and demons.
What a way to shake down the poor suckers who believe whatever they are told by weirdos with their collars on backwards.
Religion will not survive the century. Knowledge is exploding throughout the world. It will bury the ridiculous superstitious myths of the ancients.
And I hope I'm around to enjoy it all.
Shame on you shamans.
Posted by: Claude Tellier | July 7, 2008 12:06 PM
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Please!
An atheist who prays to a god is no atheist. He is an idiot.
Atheists do not believe gods exist. Only the deluded pray, and atheists are not deluded. They are atheists.
It all sounds like religious propaganda to me, to gain credibility for the act of praying which atheists ridicule, and all objective studies of praying show it to be a useless activity that benefits noone.
Posted by: atheist | July 7, 2008 11:53 AM
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I like your statement that "the Bible’s first monotheist is also its first atheist."
I have a little theory of my own concerning atheism and secularism, and their comminglings with religion and religious thought.
Our modern religions are *written* religions, written by men in modern languages, the new languages of modern civilizations: Greek, Hebrew, Latin, Arabic etc.. It's been like that since Hesiod wrote is "Theogony". Since this day, since the advent of modern, "civilized" religions, humans therefore became the creators of the gods, through writing, while the gods ceased to be the creators of men. From this day on the gods have always been defined, interpreted, altered and destroyed by modern writing and religious literature.
The whole relationship between the gods and men had been turned upside down. So it's quite obvious that modern religions THEMSELVES are already a secular phenomenon, because they are based on writing (and in consequence: re-writing). Therefore it's only logical that atheism is also a natural consequence of and is very much connected to *religion as a secular phenomenon*.
So I'm not really surprised that there are "atheists" who believe in god. Atheism and faith go hand in hand, stronger and closer than we may think. Religious thought is the direct cause of atheism. Maybe atheists are even the more "religious" persons than believers, because they oppose the mythical and supernatural approach and see religions for what they really are: a product of modern civilization and technical progress, of writing and language: strictly speaking a secular phenomenon.
Posted by: Maria Janna | July 7, 2008 11:05 AM
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Mr. HIRSCHFIELD you wrote "it strikes me as a very healthy corrective for the same man who was willing to “blindly” alter his life and that of his family just because God called him to do so."
I totally agree, been there done that.
Posted by: Anonymous | July 1, 2008 8:57 PM
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BRAD HIRSCHFIELD
You wrote, " It was Abraham who heard God’s plan about destroying Sodom and argued that doing so failed to meet the criteria of good judgment; that if God was the most righteous, He should act more justly! In effect, Abraham was willing to deny God’s godliness if He didn’t measure up to Abraham’s understanding of justice. While that might be a bit arrogant, it strikes me as a very healthy corrective for the same man who was willing to “blindly” alter his life and that of his family just because God called him to do so."
And I would like to add when God and Moses had their "talk" about the Hebrews being wiped out and Moses saying what he did.
I look at both of these as God drawing out of these people something that they, themselves, probably did not even know that they had in them.
Not that God changed His Mind but God has His Way of working with individual people in whatever way works best with that individual.
God is a searcher of hearts and minds, not of religious affiliations or lack thereof and it sure does seem that not only is God a searcher of our hearts and minds but that our minds and hearts are also searching.
Take care, be ready.
Sincerely, Thomas Paul Moses Baum.
Posted by: Thomas Baum | July 1, 2008 7:43 PM
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The idea that Abraham was an atheist is cute but completely misguided. If Abraham could converse with God, an entity having greater-than-human power, then Abraham was clearly a THEIST, as the belief in such an entity is THEISM, not A-THEISM.