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Here you can see 20 qur'an when you reload the pages at www.jihadspin.com But here is one of my favs: "When We wish to destroy a city, we first give warning to those of itspeople who live in comfort to accept our commands. But if they reject us, judgment is irrevocably passed,and we wage utter annihilation." (The Qur'an - Sura 17:16)

Dear WAS DISGUSTED NOW RELIEVED:

You're very welcome!:)

PS: I forgot to put in my name last time around.

Thanks for the link Anonymous and the information contained in the article posted.

Dear WAS DISGUSTED NOW RELIEVED,

Here's a link about Mohammed's wives, concubines and other "right-hand possessions".

http://www.iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/13/9453

Dear WAS DISGUSTED NOW RELEVED,

Here's a link about Mohammed's wives, concubines and other "right-hand possessions".

http://www.iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/13/9453

It sure looks like there's a lot of contributions for Monday morning Q'uranic selections. Pamela, you have you hands full now.

QUASIM

My profound apologies! I had somehow missed the first post from you and responded to the second. I notice now that the first post contains two good links with the information I was hoping to read regarding the marriages.

Quasim

Many thanks for the response and posting the links. It does seem as if trying to figure how many women Mohammad married or had relationships with without actually marrying them, in the twelve years until his death, after the death of his first wife when he was fifty years old, is a field of scientific study by itself that has occupied many Muslim and non-Muslim scholars.

For the sake of simplicity and clarity and in keeping with the scientific tradition, does any study have a table/list with the complete list in a tabular form, with details such as ages (the age of Mohammad at the time, the age of the woman), circumstances of marriage, family background of wives/concubines/slave etc, with a complete list of source references, both Muslim and non-Muslim?

Similarly since violence has been mentioned equally frequently in relation to Islam on these threads, is a similar list/table available of battles fought/killing of all persons while Mohammad was alive, and what his instructions/influence might have been in all instances - place, casualites, names of victims, reason for battle/killing, nature of violence associated with it etc. in a tabular form, with list of source references?

Since Muslims are fully aware of everything and have themselves provided scholarship on these matters, just as Jews and Christians are aware of violence in the Old Testament, providing such a list/table merely provides a helpful overview, especially important on a general discussion board such as this.

The advantage of posting such a list is that when the question of Mohammad's sex life and acts of violence associated with Islam in the course of his lifetime arises in the discussions on these threads, one can refer to the list posted here, and save everyone the trouble of chewing cud over the issue. The Muslims then have an opportunity to present their perspective.

The goal is to find common ground, and it can't be found at the level of Mohammad's sex life or the violence associated with the religion in his lifetime. But since it is an issue that concerns many non-Muslims today not because of what happened in the past, but the implication of Mohammad's instruction on the matter to the Muslims today, it must be presented briefly nevertheless, so that one can move on to finding what teachings of Islam are valuable and in what way the revelation of Mohammad adds to the spiritual tradition of the world.

According to some Islamic sources, Muhammad had four concubines, i.e. sex slaves.

Ibn al-Qayyim said:
Abu ‘Ubaydah said: HE HAD FOUR (CONCUBINES): MARIYAH, who was the mother of his son Ibraaheem; Rayhaanah; another beautiful slave woman whom he acquired as a prisoner of war; and a slave woman who was given to him by Zaynab bint Jahsh.
Zaad al-Ma’aad, 1/114

Besides these, he had two concubines. The first was Mariyah, the Coptic (an Egyptian Christian), a present gift from Al-Muqauqis, vicegerent of Egypt - she gave birth to his son Ibrâhim, who died in Madinah while still a little child, on the 28th or 29th of Shawwal in the year 10 A.H., i.e. 27th January, 632 A.D. The second one was Raihanah bint Zaid An-Nadriyah or Quraziyah, a captive from Bani Quraiza. Some people say she was one of his wives. However, Ibn Al-Qaiyim gives more weight to the first version. Abu 'Ubaidah spoke of two more concubines, Jameelah, a captive, and another one, a bondwoman granted to him by Zainab bint Jahsh. [Za'd Al-Ma'ad 1/29] (Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum (THE SEALED NECTAR) Biography of the Noble Prophet, Saif-ur-Rahman al-Mubarakpuri [Maktaba Dar-us-Salam Publishers & Distributors, First Edition 1995], "The Prophetic Household", p. 485; online edition; bold and underline emphasis ours)

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Shamoun/mary_concubine.htm

WG,NR,

Unfortunately there is no agreement even among Muslims how many wives Muhammad had. It all depends on the source. Some say he had 9 wives. Some say he had as many as 20, but the consensus seems to be about 13 or more.

However, having said that, he is generally regarded as having two sex slaves, maybe more. But the two are the FAMOUS ones. Every Muslim should know about Rayhanna and Mariah the Copt.

The Historian Ali Dashti does a good job in collating the number of wives according to Islamic hadiths and sira. Here is a weblink that uses Ali Dashti's work. http://www.muslimhope.com/WhyDidMohammedGetSoManyWives.htm

Here is another source reference that you may find useful: http://www.light-of-life.com/eng/reveal/r5405et8.htm

According to the light-of-life source, Muhammad married Rayhana in 6AH which was a year after he made her his sex slave.

Quasim

Could you please post a list of references from the Quran or Hadiths giving the complete list of: 1.Mohammad's wives, concubines, sex slaves (if you say he had sex slaves as well), 2. When and under what circumstances he married them (or had a sexual relationship outside marriage), 3. His age and the age of the woman, at the time of marriage? I am sure it can be done without giving explicit details about when, how and how frequently he had sex with them. It is out of fairness to Muslims that they should not be given an opportunity to accuse any non-Muslim of inventing stories about the life of their Prophet.

My knowledge of Islam is restricted to information on the discussions on the WP On Faith forum. I am here to read these posts with an open mind, with great respect for all religions, including Islam.

I'm not sure it is true that Muhammad restricted his sexual activities to marriage since he kept sex slaves, e.g. Rayhanna bint Zayd who was a Jewish captive from the Qurayza, and Mariah the Copt.

It is said that Muhammad freed Mariah the Copt when she gave birth to Ibrahim, Muhammad's son, but there was no actual marriage ceremony recorded so if there was a marriage it was a de facto one. In any case, during most of their 'relationship' he wasn't married to her but kept her as a sex slave.

How anyone can believe that God will condone sex slavery is beyond me. But then I'm sure the Muslim ladies of this blog do not have a problem with sex slavery as long it is the Muslims who are doing the enslaving and the non-Muslims are the sex slaves.

Qasim

What a relief when people who use Mohammad's sex life as a pretext to indulge their sexual fanatasies, and convert the serious WP discussion to tittilating communication, leave to find discussion boards where such style may be more appropriate! Take for example:

Jihadist wrote:
...ah yes of course - sex and violence again:) I'm missing Ross and Deb Chatterjee here.

I'm sure you have access to the hadiths and their Mo's arabian nights adventures !

visit...(link)
Except for personal attacks and spamming, anything is allowed here.

(Posted April 10, 2007 8:51 AM)

The fact that married Muslim women are part of the communication providing erotic imagery, in their communication with non-Muslim males, doesn't speak well for Islam at all, especially while in the same breath they complain about Muslim bashers of Mohammad's sexual morals. His polygamy and child bride ( a legitimate issue for non-Muslims) notwithstanding, Mohammad was particular about restricting his sexual activity to marriage and left strict instructions about extreme modesty in conduct and dress for men and women outside of marriage.

It might be noted that WP is a mainstream US newspaper with an international readership, and appropriate rules of engagement to discuss sensitive issues needs to be employed.

I like this plain declaration of war to the rest of mankind from Mohammad:

Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, 'and whoever said, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', Allah will save his property and his life from me, unless (he does something for which he receives legal punishment) justly, and his account will be with Allah"
Bukhari Vol 9 Book 84 No. 59

Who can blame Osama Ibn Laden for fullfilling allah's order!?

Salam Pamela,

i think you are a courageous woman for speaking up against these infidels. They will get what they are asking for:

(Quran 7:4) "How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them."

Remember, no matter how to scheme and try to deceive; there is no deity better at deception and trickery than Allah:

(Quran 3:54) "and Allah is the best of all deceivers!"

It seems to me that Islam is not an universal religion because its message is not universal. The tone of the message is Arabo-centric, with strong infusion of Arabic customs and beliefs.

This idea that an Arab bandit who killed people or caused people to be killed, who attacked caravans and villages for plunder and enslavement, who committed and promoted polygamy and the subjugation of non-believers can be a prophet of an universal God does not sit well with me as a Christian.

I have severe problems with much of Islamic ideas of God. My conception of the Divine cannot reconcile with the idea that a true God would encourage looting. How can a true God steal and take 20% of booty from the disbelievers he himself supposedly created and then oppressed?

How can a true God promote polygamy and the idea that women are worth less than men? How can a true God promote killing and oppression of disbelievers? I know Christians have also been bigotted but I don't think Jesus would have approved of the bigotry. In contrast, it seems to me that Allah not only approves but encourages discrimination and oppression of non-believers.

One of the biggest problems I have is this extreme Arabo-centrism which mandates reading of a holy scripture in a particular language. Out of all the people in the world only a minority truly understands Arabic, so why would God make his scripture unintelligeable to most of the people in the world?

In short, I look at Islam and I see the beliefs of a backward Arab desert tribe.

Pamela, one other thing, said in the spirit of friendship.

You are obviously a sensitive person.

Please revert to humanity. You do not need to cling to the absurdities of mohammed-worship. Resist the extravagant rationalisations and bizarre defiances of reality islam commands of you.

You will not go to hell, you will not be made to drink boiling water, you will not be made to eat thorns, you will not have your flesh melted repeatedly by fire, as the cruel "allah" (mohammed) tries to scare you into submissively believing.

Revert to humanity, free yourself, please be the obviously sensitive and intelligent person you could be, if you were not enslaved.

Oh dear Pamela. Is that really the best you can do? Well, yes, of course that is the best that you can do. Silly me for asking.

There is nothing, nothing whatsoever, in the Koran, which can compare in beauty of expression to hundreds of passages in either the new or the old testament.

Certainly the passage you chose here has nothing in it to compare with the Sermon on the Mount or the letters of Paul. It is a trite rendering of profound ideas.

There is no beautiful passage in the Koran. None. You cannot cite one even barely comparable in beauty to thousands of passages in Western literature. On the other hand, the Bible contains hundreds of passages, chapters and books of surpassing beauty, comparable to the best any literature from anywhere has to offer.

Every ancient religion except mohammed-worship has profound literature. Mohammed-worship offers nothing but trite plagiarism.

Pamela, free yourself. Open your mind. Admit the truth. Stop submitting your intellect.

Wait ... I found another one!! This is a good one

2:177 Righteousness does not consist in turning your faces towards the East or the West but righteousness is to believe in God, the Last Day, the angels, revelation, and the prophets

Philippians 3:9-14
not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but one that comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God based on faith.

Note the above verses have 2 things in common in meaning; 1. Righteousness is not about following rules (very "Pauline" ) and it is based on belief/faith

All good quotes in the Koran were copied from Christian scriptures.

Koran 2:177 Righteousness does not consist in turning your faces towards the East or the West but righteousness is to believe in God, the Last Day, the angels, revelation, and the prophets [/b]

New Testament; Philippians 3:9-14
not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but one that comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God based on faith.

Note the above verses have 2 things in common in meaning; 1. Righteousness is not about following rules (very "Pauline") and it is based on belief/faith

There is more:

This Koran verse includes a mish-mash of verses, plus some of Paul's words

2:177 Righteousness does not consist in turning your faces towards the East or the West

this is Matt 5-6 about hypocrisy of legalism (funnily enough, Islam is otherwise extremely legalistic ) And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men

Koran; but righteousness is to believe in God, the Last Day, the angels, revelation, and the prophets;

As Paul says in the NT; righteousness is based on faith alone, but the Koran dumbs this down into "belief". Belief is a forced thing, but faith is more of a state of trust.

Romans 1:17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed through faith for faith; as it is written, "The one who is righteous will live by faith."

to spend of your wealth - however much you may cherish it - upon your near of kin, and orphans, the needy, the wayfarer, beggars, and for the freeing of human beings in bondage.

There are many verses like this in the NT; "If you wish to be perfect, go, sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor

It is to be constant in prayer,

Paul in Thess 5:17 Pray without ceasing

to be steadfast in charity, to keep the promises you have made, to be firm and patient in misfortune and hardship and in time of peril: Such are the people who have proved themselves true, and it is they who are truly pious.

1Cor 15:58 be steadfast, immovable, always excelling in the work of the Lord, because you know that in the Lord your labor is not in vain.

1Titus 4:12 be an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

There is a lot more, but that should be enough!

Jihadist wrote:
...ah yes of course - sex and violence again:) I'm missing Ross and Deb Chatterjee here.

I'm sure you have access to the hadiths and their Mo's arabian nights adventures !

Jihadist wrote:
Care to go into, say, Islam Online, and impress the Muslims reading with all your knowledge on Hadiths and Suras? Islam Online is quite a mainstream/conservative Muslim site in English. I'm sure you'd get a bigger Muslim audience there on what you have to say:)

Are you sure a muslim forum will allow criticism of islam ? Never found a muslim forum that does not ban members who speak out against islam. That is consistent with the muslim practice of threatening/killing critics of islam.

If you dare to seek the truth about islam then visit
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum
Except for personal attacks and spamming, anything is allowed here.

...ah yes of course - sex and violence again:) I'm missing Ross and Deb Chatterjee here.

I'm sure you have access to the hadiths and their Mo's arabian nights adventures !

Care to go into, say, Islam Online, and impress the Muslims reading with all your knowledge on Hadiths and Suras? Islam Online is quite a mainstream/conservative Muslim site in English. I'm sure you'd get a bigger Muslim audience there on what you have to say:)

Are you sure a muslim forum will allow criticism of islam ? Never found a muslim forum that does not ban members who speak out against islam. That is consistent with the muslim practice of threatening/killing critics of islam.

If you dare to seek the truth about islam then visit
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum
Except for personal attacks and spamming, anything is allowed here.

Btw, did you know that this is just one more thing plagarized from the NT?

From Matthew:

2 "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
5 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

9 "This, then, is how you should pray: "'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, 10 your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us today our daily bread. 12 Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.' 14 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

16 "When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show men they are fasting. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 17 But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, 18 so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 22 "The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. 23 But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness! 24 "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.

25 "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27 Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life? 28 "And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31 So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

So why do you turn towards Mecca? Is it to please yours slave masters The Saudis!

If righteous is to believe in the Almighty God. Why believe in this crap about last day[even in Allah] and angels and the so called hallucination called prophecy.
Do you know when is this last day? No!

Giving charity is the right of all religion . To help human being regardless of faith colour, creed is the sign of divinity in all human beings. Unlike Moslem who believe charity should only be given to Moslem.
When Muslim talk of brotherhood of Man. They mean Moslem brotherhood.
Islam promote bondage, particularly of none Muslims. Read some history books.
Mo was good at twisting and copying others religion and knowledge. There is nothing new in the Koran.

One more thing:

>to spend of your wealth - however much you may cherish it - upon your near of kin, and orphans, the needy, the wayfarer, beggars,<

refers to Zakat. Zakat is ONLY given to moslems and is an obligation.

...ah yes of course - sex and violence again:) I'm missing Ross and Deb Chatterjee here.

Care to go into, say, Islam Online, and impress the Muslims reading with all your knowledge on Hadiths and Suras? Islam Online is quite a mainstream/conservative Muslim site in English. I'm sure you'd get a bigger Muslim audience there on what you have to say:)

Homosexuality was and is widely practised in Islamic countries. To please the homosexuals among his followers Mohammed promised them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls.

(QURAN 52:24): "And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them as if they were preserved pearls."

(QURAN 56:17): "They will be served by immortal boys."

(QURAN 76:19): "And round about them will (serve) boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would think them scattered pearls."

I also want to thank you for those inspiring words.
It is great you are going to post selections from the Qur'an and the hadith.
I agree with you that the whole world should read the Holy Words of Allah who were send to his messenger Mohammed.
I would like to share with you some words from the Holy Qur'an too.
The verses I want to share are a warning. A warning to be good .

[5.32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.
[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
[5.34] Except those who repent before you have them in your power; so know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”

Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3240:
Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather and had sexual intercourse with her. He then went to his Companions and told them: The woman advances and retires in the shape of a devil, so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife, for that will repel what he feels in his heart.

Book 11, Number 2141: Abu Dawood
Narrated Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab:
Iyas ibn Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: Do not beat Allah's handmaidens, but when Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) complaining against their husbands. So the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: Many women have gone round Muhammad's family complaining against their husbands. They are not the best among you.

Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3432:
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end)

Dawud Book 11, Number 2142 wrote:
Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.

It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), ]when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them. (Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4321)

Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:
The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256)

Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 82, Number 794:
Narrated Anas:
Some people from the tribe of 'Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die.

@ ATHEIST:
Yes, the "prophet" encouraged freeing slaves - not:

Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 47, Number 765:
Narrated Kurib:
the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas, that Maimuna bint Al-Harith told him that she manumitted a slave-girl without taking the permission of the Prophet. On the day when it was her turn to be with the Prophet, she said, "Do you know, O Allah's Apostle, that I have manumitted my slave-girl?" He said, "Have you really?" She replied in the affirmative. He said, "You would have got more reward if you had given her (i.e. the slave-girl) to one of your maternal uncles."

Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 46, Number 711:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
A man amongst us declared that his slave would be freed after his death. The Prophet called for that slave and sold him. The slave died the same year.

Some more "inpiring" words from the hadith:

Muslim, Book 008, Number 3371:
Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

[2.29] He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth, and He directed Himself to the heaven, so He made them complete seven heavens, and He knows all things.
-V-
[79.27] Are you the harder to create or the heaven? He made it.
[79.28] He raised high its height, then put it into a right good state.
[79.29] And He made dark its night and brought out its light.
[79.30] And the earth, He expanded it after that.

Just a little thing I know but if it’s the immutable word of Allah a little accuracy would help.

Qur’an Chapter 5, Verse 14:
From those too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the Message that was sent to them: so We estranged them, with enmity and hatred between one and the other, to the Day of Judgment….

Pamela, what a great idea! I'm looking forward to your weekly Qur'anic/Hadith posts.

I think I will take your cue and also post a weekly Qur'anic excerpt/Hadith to my own blog. I tend to post them sporadically now.

mohammad says is good to free slaves. he should listen to his own words, read the following hadiths:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 006, Book 060, Number 281

Narrated Ibn Abbas: ... I returned to my house, astonished (and distressed) that I did not know for what purpose I had gone out. Then I became sick (fever) and said to Allah's Apostle "Send me to my father's house." So he sent a slave with me, and when I entered the house, I found Um Rum-an (my mother) downstairs while (my father) Abu Bakr was reciting something upstairs.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 006, Book 060, Number 435

Then I put on my clothes and went to Allah's Apostle's residence, and behold, he was staying in an upper room of his to which he ascended by a ladder, and a black slave of Allah's Apostle was (sitting) on the first step. I said to him, 'Say (to the Prophet ) 'Umar bin Al-Khattab is here.'...

mohammad owned slaves and he was not pious enough to free them!

Thank you for those inspiring words. I get fed up of the attacks on the prophet Mohammed (pbuh) simply because he had sex with a 9 year old girl when he was 54. He had permission from Allah (Bukhari's Hadiths) so that's ok.

Oh, and I don't like it when people criticise the slaughter of all those men and boys after the siege of Medina (you know, the ones who were beheaded in cold blood). That's sanctioned in chapter 33 of the Koran so that's ok too.